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I'm worried for Panker
The rest should be fine though
As long as Bubbly is there everything's okay
They should keep bubbly, recry and panker
Recry is AFB LUL
yes. decay, panker bubbly daemin poise in KDU
IMO butcher is good tank
brb checking whom he meant instead of recry
decay
DNCE Ana looked shaky at best
remember when DNCE was still DPS?
He was alright, imo not anything special though
I think he played tracer?
His hog was good
he played hitscan overall iirc
and hanzo
didn't see all that much of him though since I didn't watch too many KDU matches
birdring is better anyway, lul
KDU mostly played the triple tank
So we didn't get to see too much
But if they get an Ana player putting him back on DPS is an option
DNCE was main dps in s1, flex in s2, sup in s3.
So Kongdoo signed the dps'
yes
And a support?
and meta athena has wnv's sup
Meta only have 7
it looks like nus goes playing-coach
ah
as subbed
taimou's EMPs traumatized him
Sopti, any news on runaway?
Disbanding probably
:/
nothing, when kr commitee annouces kr team, runner was there as commitee.
a lot of them were getting individual offers back after S2
wouldn't be shocked if they actually take them, but I wouldn't fucking know
They introduced the runner as a former professional player.
Not a surprise even if runaway doesn't disband
i don't know it is real or joke.
and haksal & bumper has a lot of personal streaming these days.
I think Runaway guys should have no problem even if they disband
Haksal has an insane pool
Genji/Zarya/Winston
Redefining "flex"
If Runaway disband as well, super week will be insane
4 promotion slots + NV and rogues places assuming no Western invites
Then BK + possibly runaways places
I think Mighty AOD gone as well
They have a team in OPC qualifiers with mighty aOD player's
I can't sign up for Open Div lol
mighty AOD member goes OPC promotion
@ashen berry why not?
I have to enter a valid E-Mail Address
Oh another dva main i see 
this is so stupid, just using the one I use with my OW Account

doesn't work
Okay, so it works with a gmail account, but not with my regular account?
wtf
It worked out?
Good to see people signing up for open division
I would but I'm console scrub
I think I am too late for free agents
and I don't have a team
sucks to be me
such an idiot I forgot that. I got Master 2 days ago anyways, so it was too late
Ye
You can still do next season
Good luck next season, don't lose the rank
The question is will I find a team by that time. I am never going to play OW with random ever again.
Basically playing 1v6, have you ever lost a game with 96 elims?
@ashen berry they say this one goes till September
That's not too far at least
96 elims as dva?
Yeah
DPS useless af. Last game I played widow having gold elims and hero damage. Interestingly, we had a reaper on our team.
The reaper mains are out after the patch
I like to play reaper. Since season 4
I love esports
"Nerf South Korea"
More like "Git gud"
Western pros are (and should be) taking notes from Korea and you're saying "nerf them"
Gotta be fucking insane
Don't worry @clever wagon
They're probably preparing excuses
As to why they're going to lose global events
Instead of practising maps
Nah, that's not what I'm worried about
More about the sheer lunacy and madness and insanity of "nerfing" South Korea
Let the normies meme
It's a shit one
btw YT is way better than twitch
Pause, you can skip or go back, no cancer emotes
I dont know why people dislike it
both have their pros and cons imo
youtube streaming lets me rewind though
which is a big plus
I can pause, do my stuff, go back and im missing anything
yee
With ow would be better tbh
when you pause in twitch you're fucked, lul
You miss an action you can rewind
I bet also YT brandwith is way bigger than twitch imo
for some reason a very smart man decided that the best way to rewind a stream is by going to the channel, clicking on the vod of the current steam and skipping to wherever the fuck you want
Who complain about YT? People that want to only spam twitch chat
Watching ECS and has 100k
So imo just let ppl get used to yt
well, youtube doesn't let me clip, and there was a bunch of other stuff that really pissed me off when watching the MLG Vegas stream
but overall YT streaming is fine
True
I just want an option
yep
But most likely we wont lmao
Cuz blizzard is busy... 
Also... I wanted to die yt
They did a feature about "tournaments schedule"
The day of contenders that feature disappear from OW channel directory lol
lul
Well... We are lucky FishStix is atleast into OW a lot
when was the last time he casted something big anyway?
last I can remember was gamescom
Not about casting
But playing it a lot, OWL hoodie, doing the tournament schedule for ow etc...
He genuinely like OW
He's a Twitch staff
Not a dev I think
He said he worked in E3 for Twitch broadcast or smth
@rapid oxide people have problems with the quality and shit
MLG Vegas was thrash quality
Also, the chat might be bad but it adds to the game
anyone caught the C9 vs Kungarna trash talk?
nope
none of us did
@crisp lynx so ex BK Stars go to KDU?
Nah only Alarm and Bunny
I'm assuming to KDU
Looking forward to his Twitter if they don't make it out of groups
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What
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someone needs to make a minute to minute archive of cow
cant keep up with the deletions
unreddit
tried that already but I think it only works for comments
@balmy wolf According to BK discord, only Alarm & Bunny. it's not official yet. So it can be just Alarm's kidding.
lit
?? @supple nymph
It says Live Cast
What does that mean
They'll have some people casting there?
Too bad this won't be streamed
It will be though
watching yikes vs IMT rn (I know, I'm really early)
I always thought that agilities was excellent, but holy shit
I wouldn't even feel uncomfortable putting him as the second best DPS in NA
tbh
people often claims that Grim looks good but honestly Agilities has been carrying IMT so much it is insane
his tracer is also nutty
which I wasn't expecting
yee, it's fucking ridiculous how hard he's been carrying, lul
his back must be broken by now
Grim kinda peaked at NGE and the february OMM
that's why they imported a sub with new tank/flex support. Give him more room for carrying
and Grim honestly, he has been dropping off to just supporting DPS now
that Visor in Hollywood second phase is just bad
like "why are you doing this" bad
a lot of his visors were very ๐ค
like, wot
they won the fight
why visor?
hollywood was a bit of a stomp anyway, so it didn't matter, but had they been playing vs some korean team, rogue or even eUnited they'd have gotten punished super hard for that
I mean, it is YIKES
or rather, Arc6
lol
NA teams have a very short hype cycle
until another team or two brought them down to earth
Selfless, for example
got hyped to the moon rightfully for their aggressive plays
until Rogue reverse sweep them and ultimately beat them
and later on Selfless got shat on by other teams as well
mneanwhile, YIKES got lucky in term of stylistic match up and a Rogue-less OMM
so of course they got hyped to the moon
yup
same thing happened with LGE
and IMT
although both of those teams are starting to look much more solid now
YIKES' hype cycle barely last a week. Won May OMM, then exit first round of playoff of May Rumble against
of all people 
and then they lose vs kungarna
lul
didn't RNG also have so much hype behind them after winning a melee?
back when they were kingdom?
they got hyped up after qualifying NGE in dominant fashion
but they deflated rather early though
oh ya, lul
I didn't pay much attention to NGE outside of results, the faze matches and the grand finals
so I never really got on any team's hype train
I may have gotten kinda hyped for RNG though iirc, maybe because of kyb, I forgot
Kyb came later
when he got released
and the team management dumb enough to bench ManofSnow
who was arguably the catalyst of the team's success at that point too. They dropped off of the earth after that yeah
and also RNG playing "who's the better Genji/Zarya hybrid we can bring this time around" that lasted for months
after that
Sypeh played very well for them
but nope.
And now they settled with a highschool 2 tricks named Zacharee
ya, from what manofsnow said the management is garbage
fun fact: Manofsnow is trying out for a team that I used to managed
I quit the management and immediately after I heard manofsnow tried for them
that team used to have Nomy trying out too
he is decent
solid T2 supportive player
but i guess there's a reason why he didn't get a team during the Contenders (afaik)
I thought he was quitting the scene
And just streaming
The problem is I've never seen him with more than a 100 views
he has 500 views+ at some point
i stopped keep track
if you want to take a team
right now is the time
because of Open League
He made a team
and then that didnt work out and now he just streams
wat
toy, the guy from this server who was on teamofsnow
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Can someone boost me to diamond?๐ฉ
no.
nooo
yeah what about him
he got snekt and was cut
he did?
when was this
@zealous walrus just play mercy to diamond
months back
he said that a friend (of snow, I think) got a spot on the team and he got cut for that
FeelsRageMan
ManofSnow's team is Prestige Worldwide
they used to be TeamofSnow
but since ManofSnow couldn't stream while coaching them
so they parted way
somebody has to coach
and can't just stream their scrims
Vivi's stream their matches last week and look what happened to them this week
One of those games
NA matchmaking 
Cloneman?
Not sure if he's interested in a team though
If you're actually a serious team
Try the OW recruitment thread
Cloneman is NA
not serious, just bunch of 4300
i mean it will be great to be serious
but we don't have 6th
check out this aim
https://clips.twitch.tv/ApatheticCovertAppleCoolStoryBob
I would try #lf-players-na
On reddit r/competitiveoverwatch has weekly threads which you should try out as well
lmao
Literally bronze
Mercy main btw
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so according to Noukky
Contenders will stream 1 quarters, 2 semis, and the final
4 games
@toxic yacht Mykl going after Kaiser in pro talk lol
...
why is he like this?
it's not even entertaining, this is just embarassing and sad
especially due to the fact that his "trash talk" is honestly just garbage
@balmy wolf any screencaps?
it is on twitter lol
in 20 min, time to spam f5 for kungarna - c9
Too bad there's no score bot here :(
I can copy paste some bots
*** Schedule to start in 7 minutes.
Team Liquid vs FaZe Clan
Counter Logic Gaming vs Selfless Gaming
Envision vs LG Evil
Toronto Esports vs You guys get paid?
FNRGFE vs Immortals
YIKES! vs Tempo Storm
Kungarna vs Cloud9
Renegades vs Hammers Esports
Lul
We've said it already. They are gonna have to fucking kill us to keep us out of contenders.

Renegades up 1-0 on Hammers.

Faze up 1-0 SK
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Kungarna up 1-0
Contenders: Tournament of F5
mykl was right 

why faze would care, they are ECS on finals lul
idk what that is
OW FaZe apparently doesnt exist
and idc
1-0 up for Kungarna
naisu

Kungarna C9 1-1


Kungarna pls
LG Evil 2-0 Envision
apparently c9 3-0'd them on oasis, lul
CLG 1-1 Selfless
5-hour energy makes you play gud
Kungarna 
lmao c9 100-0'd them on every stage
nah theres just no percentage all the other games show 0
don't see many teams beating them on oasis anytime soon
Yore
rektangle
would have thought hammer would do better
thats what Im saying it displays percentage
Renegades 3-0 Hammers
any streams up?

I seriously want that mongoloid who thought that it was a good idea to stream ~16% of the matches fucking asswhipped
amazing tournament
@toxic yacht is that the same mykl?
fucking cancelled the monthly melee for this
from the video
Check out http://www.Twitch.TV/itmeJP for more streams from JP! Follw JP on Twitter! http://www.Twitter.com/itmeJP Want to submit a Twitch clip to the list f...
2 for each
SK looking good again
knowing what kind of obnoxious retard he is
It's Michael!
"MAII NAME ISS MICHAELLLL"
I find the fact that they start streaming 3 hours after the first matches especially amazing
the people who decide what matches are streamed are especially smart
seem to have no idea which ones are actually interesting
i think they are just trying to make it fair so every team gets an equal amount of time
"OH YEAH, C9 AND KUNG HAD CLOSE MATCHES + A BIT OF BEEF! LET'S NOT STREAM THEM!"
which would be ok... if they were streaming a more reasonable number
"OH MA GAWD, LET'S NOT STREAM SHADOWBURN VS SHADDER2K"
but not fucking 4 / 24
Better this than OMM tbh
Slasher or riot
Reason of why its better lul
lol, I barely care about this shit tbh
OMM had bad match selection as well
pressing f5 is not very entertaining
I feel almost zero investment in this
o hek
It is
1-2 kungarna c9
LOL
of course c9 wins temple
LOLOLOL
anything else would be ๐ค
@blazing parrot what?
mykl trashtalking c9
0 hype 0 love 0 passion tbh
Ah, yes LUL
WC looks like it's more important
I also love how no one is observing the offline shit
sojum where you seeing this?
thanks bby
@toxic yacht they are though because they have highlights
oh yeah, they are
to some extent
misfits vs LK had highlights
playing 2CP against team with KR coach 
oh yeah, let's not stream misfits vs lk rematch
LET'S INSTEAD STREAM MISFITS STOMPING NWA 4-0
Even 2 wouldn't cover everything
Carbon Entertainment is pretty small
and also money for crew, spectator, time, commentators, etc etc
Blizzard can probably spend it but they are not bringing out the big guns just yet
so we will have to bear with this for now
Softlocke master race
It's also S0, I'm sure if they get renewed for S1 they'll get more investment
c9 needs 1 more win to advance right?
4 wins and you are auto in
well, how about they don't make such a fuckign retarded schedule then?
What Mercedes said
its 2-1 for c9 vs kun
4 matches in one day in such a short amount of time is a bit ๐ค
then they have 1 week break
so no possible to get 4 wins?
Stay positive and have a great day peace out guys
Carbon will get renew for second one
they are rushing in the midst of WC qualifiers and shit
Why don't they change?
Bye Vace 
@blazing parrot depends
depends on what reign?
4 wins and you are auto in, so realistically, RNG will probably go in.
so it is a race to the second spot now
between Kungarna and C9
I especially love how blizzard is handling this so well that a third-party website has more valuable information and stats than the fucking main one

amazing esport guys
trust blizzard

this kind of garbage is inexcusable
it'd have been fine at launch
but the game has been out for a fucking year and blizzard hasn't done shit regarding these things
@balmy wolf so if c9 won 3-1, c9 gets second spot? what happens if they go 2-2?
maps wins counts
literally their own tournament website lacks basic information
yes
that's how puppiez got into the playoffs although expert actually beat them h2h and they were tied in match score
at the moment of their pickup
they were strong
but kind of like NIP
they struggled to transfer the meta
Yeah, can imagine them having trouble
They did okay at TakeOver though
RNG, C9 and Kungarna are also some of the teams in the best form in NA as well
Group A and D is just messy tbh
hammers 4-0d
:c
Hammers probably would have a better chance in Group B or C
So Kungarna C9 ended up being a 2-2

so Kungarna is in
C9 out?
Assuming Hammers lose all games
basically, they have to beat hammers and hopefully get a decent score vs RNG
RNG games important
beat Hammers and beat RNG
and C9 will go through
of course, if Hammers want to play spoiler
beat RNG
Inb4 hammers forfeit
Hopefully c9 has their stuff more together this week than they did last week, since both Kungarna and RNG out placed them
yeah cuz rn Kungarna has 1 less loss than C9 and an extra map
liquid 2-2 faze
welp hopefully Kungarna gets in well see...RNG is essentially locked
lets go
atm kung is 1 map ahead of c9
if kung loses vs RNG c9 only has to draw vs RNG and make sure that they rekt hammers more than kung rekts them
there are a few more ways c9 makes it out, but what I'm trying to say is, it's mostly out of their hands lul
that one map vs hammers and the loss vs RNG fucked them
Kungarna and c9 had a draw 2-2
If Kungarna can draw or better against RNG Id say its about done
inb4 RNG flunked out of the season 1
just like how they charged into Winter Premiere
and then drop off afterward
@balmy wolf I think this is actually the strongest team they have ever had before, by their own statements.
I knew they personally feel a lot more confident.
@obsidian coral the jury is still out
definitely!
can't stop the meme though

btw, waiting for Kurai to come back from vacation is ResidentSleeper so far
would be nice if blizzard would write a few extremely simple functions and statements that would allow us to view extremely vital data like map-score on their website
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Toronto eSport 2-2 YGGP
maybe I wouldn't have to count the maps manually then
remember when Toronto eSport was supposedly an up and comer? 
so, except FaZe magically pulls two wins out of their asses they're 100% not making it out 
Shadowburn still playing from Russia
meanwhile Faze does not seems to think that they need to hurry him the fuck up to get him in decent ping
meanwhile Liquid has Shadder on
NA ping and look at them now
:/
must be hard to get a visa for a russian with the current climate
guess they could move him to canada for good ping LUL
I hate Yikes new name :<

Yee, he's been to NA at least 3 times now
Selfless is most likely not making it in at this point
nah def not an easy 50k
Thrown away like his ranked games
but they probably were better off

werent they trolling reinwolf
This is still Russia we're talking about though, who knows what kind of shit he's dealing with
that seems like the most pointless person to possibly get on there
not saying i wouldnt go listen
Not at all
I mean realistically speaking this is when you truly see which orgs are going to commit to OW
or not
Liquid, C9, RNG, IMT, etc etc
they are going all in on this
meanwhile Faze and others are sort of like whatever
yeah, all in to a cliff
mfw when tension and beef b/w C9 and Kugarna rise but you miss it all
OWL: Rogue, NV, Misfits, eUnited, LK, IMT, C9 and NRG
Life coach Kyky lmao
oh wait
then actually nah Wolf
arent they just ahead if they beat Arc6 and TS
and Arc6 loses to IMT
you want the wins in the event of a draw
RNG no losses either
just the draw with Kungarna
1-0 
Match doesnt matter for LGE cuz theyre locked 1 but for sure YGGP would prefer theyd win lol
Probably late in Korea
yeah its around 8AM
could sqeeze in still if LG takes their last match seriously
a three way race to second spot
and it depends on whether or not LG Evil wants to be kind
or........evil

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Day 2 of the NA Overwatch Contenders Group Stage is live in ~8 minutes!
Today's Streamed Matches
4:00 PM PDT:
Renegades vs Kungarna 
5:30 PM PDT:
Toronto Esports vs Envision 
7:15 PM PDT:
Arc 6 (formerly YIKES) vs FNRGFE 
8:45 PM PDT:
CLG vs Liquid 
2-0 

CHOO CHOO
WHO KNOWS? SNIZZLENOSE.
live now
I think esports events need to enforce a more strict dress code
too many of these dudes pick some goofy suits & ties
and one of the most celebrated event in OW so far is Takeover 2
which was as informal as fuck
i don't want a world without pros in uncomfortable clothes
i wonder why yikes! changed to generic crap name arc6
seemed like they already built the brand for that name up a lot
i don't care what the pros wear
i'm talking about the casters
pro uniforms have improved by so much over the past ~7 years that i'm more than satisfied
though there has been some wonky stuff
are you actually serious
yes
personally i don't care, but i guess it could look bad for public impressions, but i'm not knowledgeable about these things
they are in business formal
unless you mean they should wear the same suit
for some reason?
a light grey suit, bright pink shirt, and shiny silver tie isn't "business formal"
wait, why wouldn't it? it ain't a funeral
yea they arent from the FBI
looks goofy & unprofessional?
....
it doesn't have to be black tie... it just shouldn't be saul goodman
I think it's a pretty small nit to pick
that's just look anemic
I hardly think it's nit picking... there's one in every group of casters
Lots of events just go for the jacket & tshirt look which casters generally do better with
Choppy stream for anyone else?
a tiny bit
Renegades with the idiot defense
it still makes me sad that Kungarna can qualify and Hammers can't
i wonder what happened
Didn't know babybay played genji
BlessRNG I USED TO SAY YOUR BlessRNG BUT NOW I SAY YOU'RE BlessRNG
i kinda hope that sinatraa/dafran says that, but they're actually telling the truth, but all orgs think they're joking
c9
2-1 
does selfless still have kresnik benched?
maybe
Breaking news: Twitch chat is still cancer
3 - 1 
wait, is Reaper gaining usage?
So Selfless officially out
That was before they lost another map to Liquid
welcome to NA ow
blame Dafran for that
"let me throw when the team is on the eve of an important tournament"
"that will go well"
also
3-1 
could be their random new alternate tank
Kresnik did so good in every tournament
i dont know why they would suddenly take chances with that
didn't he say he wasn't great at winston and they want to run dive?
according to Kresknik, his way of playing Winston isn't what Selfless wanted
Midnights not even a main tank
Ah
so dont run winston?
i mean, they probably could if Dafran was in the game
but Dafran is back in Denmark
throwing
or flipping burgers
so
no time i assume
Its that simple anyway
liquid 3-1 selfless
Emongg on Winston
old news
ok
@dusty surge people have gotten better with positioning bombs
1-1 
I see that. It's just funny to see compared to pub match making.
1-1 
Renegades are really making this Reaper work
clutch pulse
Leaving Babybay alive with < 50 health earlier opened that up.
What a hype game
Correct
math is hard after a long weekend
dogman WutFace
Literally. Pro. Sombra.
playing the long game
c9
RIP
:<
@solid spear you can blame your dad
LOL
oh god
Rip
oh fuck
loool
thats not good
Wew lol
Takes 7 minutes the first time. 30 seconds the second.
JKap x ZP?
That widow pick was massive
Bischu needed a better SD there
LOL
BM
The tbag
Omg so toxic
Mykl & Babybay getting their share of BMs?
Renegades playing for C9
Lol
so
needs to beat 
Zach has bad manners
Someone fucking give JKap some WATER
June 8? Seems a little late
Ofc
Fuck did he do this time to get the ban lul
why did he pick the name j3sus
Not enough
Meh, still got a good laught, that's all that matters
this is just pro talk mocking him
gonna be chilling and watching https://t.co/ccz2uYzQca tonight. if I stream it'll be late night, discord for chatting about the tourney
aw
Save the tweet for Vace
Nah Vace hates Seagull for always streaming during tourneys
Vace left a few hours ago
Renegades getting full held
Mangachu throwing BabyRage
Calling it now
0-4 
LUL
Lmao
J3sus Tracer too slow
Renegades with the throw. Jesus.
So 2-2
Audio glitch?
Kungarna at 11-9
Still debating whether to keep wearing this jersey or just hang it up and not wear it again
"The winner of FNRGFE and Arc6 go through - if it's a draw Arc6 go through"
so TO vs Envision and FNRGFE vs Arc6 will be both pivotal
is guarantee to go through though
Liquid is in yeah
All we know is TL, LGE and IMT
Is RNG a lock after that draw or no? I kind of tuned out.
yes, but maybe c9 can get first seed
Interesting
both actually
Jamerson 
Toronto is prob the favorite here
by favor of being the higher seat
TO has the map lead, so a draw would mean TO would advance
@tired veldt this is the lead up to it
EVERYONE PRESS Q
Why didn't Cynic just disengage
oh no
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is this not a lan?
@tired veldt no lan until further notice
oh. interesting.
or rather @tired veldt lan for next season
you mean for the "regular season" all the games will be lan
LAN for playoffs in Contenders S1?
i dont think that implys lan tho
@tired veldt LAN in NA LUL
it just means that season 1 will be comprised of s0 top teams
not physical location
S1 playoffs are LaN
pharmacy ๐ด
that screenshot just means the s1 playoffs wont be streamed
LUL
could be online tournament and they just dont stream the matches





