oh, I thought that you were talking about contenders
#esports-discussion
tough agate
i'm pretty sure thats what contenders uses actually
there's only one map from each type removed
not counting horizon because new map
toxic yacht
so no eich in hybrid, apparently no volsk in 2cp etc
tough agate
yeah, except it's no KR for OWC
tough agate
they removed dorado, KR, Ilios, and Volsk
tough agate
i think that same map trimming + the ban - pick - ban - random is my ideal
toxic yacht
it'd also let comps that aren't dives shine more, I think
tough agate
so you don't have to practice EVERYTHING and you can specialize and counter teams
toxic yacht
althougn most teams would probably still run dive
that sounds good, actually
I know that I was kinda salty at MLG for basically spoiling the results of FaZe vs Fnatic for me due to the fixed pool
tough agate
still a chance for all game modes, especially once a 4th escort gets added
toxic yacht
yeah, that actually seems fine
would strike a good balance between what blizz wants and what a lot of players apparently want
tough agate
only thing it doesnt do is force all the modes, but it still punishes teams who don't practice specific types
which can incentivize teams to pick those
which still lets them see play
toxic yacht
wait, NA teams have started practing 2cp now, right?
especially now that they're almost forced to play it
tough agate
i mean, some already did when it was in pools
we did, even if it didn't look like it
toxic yacht
I'm just curious since there was that period where it seemed like most western teams had an unofficial 2cp ban and never ran except they wanted to throw teams off
tough agate
only a few teams practiced it then, but yeah, thats pretty much true
since we had the option to ban it out, most teams just said fuck it so they could enjoy the game more
toxic yacht
"so they could enjoy the game more"
lul
makes me wonder why blizz still insists on shoving 2cp down our throats
solid spear
Thank god we got a new 2cp map
toxic yacht
that's definitely what we all asked for
clever portal
Apex 2CP is good to watch
tough agate
as soon as I loaded into it and got cp_junction flashbacks
i was not happy
stalls and such can be exciting for spectators, but it's horrific to play against
toxic yacht
I find it horrific to watch, lul. It's like, a team wins 3 teamfights and only gets 1 tick
tough agate
it just doesnt feel interactive
toxic yacht
more often than not it seems to rely on which team got killed in the luckier order and got better stall swaps
tough agate
same reason why 5 tracer 0HL stall was awful (to a much much lesser degree)
wintry matrix
yeah that's shitty, but i still don't hate 2cp maps as much as everyone (besides that stalling can happen in some maps like Numbani, although less frequent)
toxic yacht
at least 5 tracer stalls on control or something were pointless more often than not anyway
just needlessy extended the gametime
toxic yacht
nitro
solid spear
Wew
clever portal
I wonder why Sombra isn't played as much in NA
In EU they seem to run it on full maps as well sometimes
That LK spawn camp reminded me of Selfless
solid spear
Sombras usage was actually highest in NA in the latest meta report
toxic yacht
lol
solid spear
Over double that of EU
clever portal
It says its off Contenders data
It was too late for EU
People were playing Sombra?
Good to know
solid spear
Yeah looking at it now 18% in NA quite high actually
clever portal
Anyone know which teams?
rapid oxide
I expect an Ult nerf and Sombra will go back to trash
Im ok with ulti nerf if they buff smth else
Like her gun
Reward doing damage, not taking damage
solid spear
Sombra with better damage would be nuts though especially cuz that would lead to more ult charge which probably cancels whatever nerf she had
clever portal
I think health pack ult charge nerf
solid spear
Better off leaving her than doing that
clever portal
This is why she builds it so fast
Even halving the charge from healing might be good
solid spear
Thats a massive nerf
clever portal
That's the problem only Anubis seems to have this problem
Another thing could be map change
Why is there a big health pack there anyway?
rapid oxide
@solid spear Yeah but at least you are rewarded for doing damage instead of taking it
solid spear
She won't get nerfed anyway
rapid oxide
Wont be mad about it 
solid spear
Shes ass in pubs and like not even THAT much of a problem in pro scene yet
balmy wolf
@tough agate the pick ban map thing was in Cyberpower PC Spring Invitational
basically a version of CSGO map ban
ban ban pick pick ban ban etc etc
clever portal
Why do they ask for the bans
balmy wolf
it is a system
clever portal
In NA they would be Anubis, Volkskaya and Hanamura anyway
clever portal
Makes sense
In a tournament that happens in one day
You don't have weeks to study the opponent and their map picks
tough agate
it's doable in a league format though, which is the end goal of all this
clever portal
@rapid oxide those teams look good
What do you think of the 4 maps
Imo drawing a game is cool
balmy wolf
Jeph doesn't like map ban though
balmy wolf
and we might see a APEX style map instead @tough agate
if the way Blizzard has been enforcing map types and such told me anything
good luck master 15 maps across 4 map types with future maps to come
tough agate
I get why they want all map types played, but I think the ban pick system can allow that to happen, especially in what we assume the OWL format will be
lightly trim map pools like OWC, and have that system, there's too many maps in each type to ban all of that type out before the first pick phase
rapid oxide
OWL 
balmy wolf
i don't see it happening to be honest
TakeOver 2, OW Contenders has been following a very similar map structure and format
tough agate
yeah, I expect to be stuck with this system still regardless
but what I was talking about are just what I hope it goes to
balmy wolf
if my source is correct, Nate Nanzer already has this shit etched in stone. So good luck to all players out there, I suppose
tough agate
especially once there's more maps
balmy wolf
I can see if the map pool get bigger after another year then a system to limit the map pool will have to come
because anything otherwise is just extra burden for players
casuals and pros alike
but again, that's kind of hinges on the fact that OWL is popular enough and all of the etc etc
clever portal
casuals? lol
Map pool doesn't matter for casuals
Maybe Blizz needs to work out a different system for short term tournaments
Like 1-3 days
Because for example if you know you play Liquid next week
clever portal
You can study their map choices and it's fine
But in a single day tournaments you draw liquid
And on the spot you're screwed
tough agate
not to give away our SECRETS but if we're lost on what maps a team likes, we usually go to over.gg
clever portal
Lol, makes sense
clever portal
Maybe Immortals
tough agate
you can look at total win-loss on maps
that doesnt tell the whole story
but it's really helpful in a pinch
balmy wolf
nrg memes xd
tough agate
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clever portal
@tough agate what about this?
Nvm, it only counts LAN games
Is good for example here
tough agate
i like winstons lab for in depth stuff, but for the scenario you're describing with figuring out team tendencies in a pinch, over.gg tends to be more readable and allows you to sort by overall/recent
balmy wolf
just gotta wait until the API is out
rapid oxide
What abot... Uhm... Pornhub? 
vestal mortar
๐
tough agate
that's for after 
clever portal
API is coming soon 4Head
rapid oxide
OWL streamed on pornuhub 
clever portal
Even pros are moon subs WutFace
tough agate
gotta have my emotes
rapid oxide
Moon is one of the big streamers i tolerate
tough agate
especially 
rapid oxide
Because compared to someone i dont want to mention
Actually helped early stage of ow esport
blazing parrot
are you mad about seagull still vace
rapid oxide
Always
clever portal
What did Seagull do
rapid oxide
Like his fanbase
vestal mortar
Vace hates me ๐ญ
blazing parrot
What about his fanbase?
solid spear
I just want my dad back
clever portal
About the tournaments he hosts them when hes done
rapid oxide
They are annoying... Calling Seagull the god of every hero on the planet while he's just a tier 4 dps
clever portal
A lot of people dont care about esports
solid spear
Seagull isn't weeb enough
blazing parrot
Lol Shitoge
solid spear
Kys
clever portal
Vace a S4 fan?
blazing parrot
No you
vestal mortar
๐ญ
blazing parrot
No, Vace hates you and your seagull hyping ways
Also most fanbases do that with every streamer
solid spear
Nuh uh
blazing parrot
Name a few
solid spear
See us of House Dafran only say hes the best player to ever play the game at all 24 heroes cuz its the truth
blazing parrot
kys
solid spear
No u
rapid oxide
I prefere Dafran toxicity over an overrated tier 4 dps
He's not funny, he's not entertaining, he's not skilled
Can't understand why people likes him so much
solid spear
He's nice and people have watched him for a while
Idc for him personally but I could see why someone would like him
vestal mortar
I think he is pretty kawaii ๐
rapid oxide
He's acne is kawaii af indeed
solid spear
Hater smh
solid spear
Hes nice enough I dont watch him but I couldnt bring myself to hate him even if his fanbase gasses him
solid spear
I dont like how he streams during tournaments a lot but thats another thing
blazing parrot
unless im meming uncleswagg
solid spear
Still dont hate him
clever portal
Who watches without chat
blazing parrot
rapid oxide
How weird he's not streaming now
Oh right , There's no tournament
My bad
He have no job and nothing to do during his day "better stream during a tournament"
blazing parrot
lmfao
rapid oxide
Make sense
Im done being toxic, gonna watch some real streaming like tviq
https://mindgames.blog/2017/06/22/in-defense-of-purist-skill-rating/ new blog of Jake from 
limber pine
@rapid oxide stop being toxic
limber pine
Because spam
clever portal
Fair enough
limber pine
And everytime we whitelist them, the moment people realize it they get spammed again
toxic yacht
well, people probably wouldn't spam them if they wouldn't know that they were banned
tbh
but well, i wasn't around when you blacklisted twitch emotes
so maybe they always spammed them
clever portal
I mean I can understand ANELE in CSGO
But dont really understand banning those two
Fair enough though
Btw why are references to the place this discord is from deleted?
I think you can't say reddit
Or r/overwatch
Oh shit
You can, nvm
rapid oxide
I dont kind k4pp4 being banned when other twitch emotes are not banned
K4pp4 is a shit emote anyway
rapid oxide
Honestly, pepe is outdated too
clever portal
FeelsBadMan
rapid oxide
No offense ;p
limber pine
Be quiet you
clever portal
I have no idea, I think it's some other discord where it's banned lol
balmy wolf
Twitter
supple nymph
does QC have replays
rapid oxide
No one will use replays except pro and tryhards
rapid oxide
= not profitable = no money = not top on priority
Replay is not important, casual dgaf about replay
Don't
Add also the engine is new
Also QC runs like ass and their netcode is trash
toxic yacht
kek
rapid oxide
I prefere a game with no replay instead of that shit
toxic yacht
btw, apparently you can't play with more than 60 fps if your upload rate sucks or something
I dunno, but some dude on this server had that issue and never played QC because of it
rapid oxide
BUT IT HAS REPLAY!
rapid oxide
He wont criticize it because, compared to ow, he's relevant in the scene
Too bad pros are already complaining on QC too
clever portal
Is QC free
pure kettle
i tried that game for like 2hrs, I havent had that little amount of fun in a game in years. lol
supple nymph
i never found TDM fun since they started making games that had better game modes
people flying around so fast you dont even know what's going on
is just overwhelming and boring
pure kettle
thats probably it
I got spoiled by being try-hard in OW a game with a different mode types
now TDM is just boring. lol
supple nymph
yea
they are basically trying to revive an inferior product to things that came out in the last 15-20 years
balmy wolf
reviving the West first esport is not good because it is an inferior product
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6ivb1p/top_500_mercy_main_gets_outplayed_by_bronze_mercy/ in other amusing note
clever wagon
I swear if Blizzard doesn't read them...
pine star
clever wagon
To Blizzard: fix it now, or condemn the eSports potential of Overwatch in the long run.
Great words by Jake
Same sentiment from me tbh
I honestly am not gonna be surprised
In fact I would think if they didn't fix these problems asap... failure is well-deserved
supple nymph
From Blizzard: Here's more loot boxes and a way so now everyone can spam highlights
clever wagon
But fuck, Jake's new essay
toxic yacht
Well, that's not really how it works
clever wagon
Almost sounds like he himself is getting agitated
toxic yacht
Highlights are basically a simpler version of demos
clever wagon
Some parts there really felt like he's finally pointing a gun to Blizz
toxic yacht
Seem to use the same underlying tech, aren't the same thing they
supple nymph
I dunno but they put a limit of 36 demos on an account
toxic yacht
They either took a part of the demo system their working on and just made this
supple nymph
so I assume it is a serverside t hing
so the way they are building it who knows if they can even adapt it to full game demos
toxic yacht
Or this is a very limited and inefficient implementation
clever wagon
How about Blizz gives a well thought out response to a well thought out essay
Ofc not, they dont have time because they're busy rewarding casuals
supple nymph
could be internally that their priorities get changed so much it would just cause more shit to publish a roadmap
balmy wolf
people asked for these highlights system and i'm like "do you even know Shadowplay/OBS/xSplit..." exists?
clever wagon
There are parts of the community and pros like Jake who genuinely wants OW to kick off, fuck casuals and show you're taking those people seriously instead
supple nymph
yea i dont understand that- if you use shadowplay or something you get more utility and it's faster
the video is already there when you're done
you dont have to export
clever wagon
As soon as possible
supple nymph
i never had performance issues with shadowplay but i guess some people do
clever wagon
Is it just me or does OBS actually barely have any performance impact
balmy wolf
Shadowplay barely make a dent when just recording
it is streaming where it has some performance slip
clever wagon
i5-6400, GTX 1060 6 GB, 16 GB RAM and I have 0 performance impact recording 720p60 indistinguishable
clever wagon
My old PC which was GTX 750 8 GB RAM couldnt even find a proper recording output with the old OBS due to how "manual" it was (old interface)
But it's just so easy with the new one
supple nymph
stuff like that is really troubling because of blizzards seeming lack of development bandwidth
takes them forever to do anything
like they have no resources allocated there at all
clever wagon
Unlike fucking shadowplay that managed to beautifully crash my GeForce driver with memory leak
supple nymph
so when they do something stupid like highlights it just ties up so much development time for no reason
balmy wolf
at least there's customizable crosshair
now i can make a sensible crosshair
unlike OW's retarded selection
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supple nymph
making a UI change is like a thing that ties up significant resources with them
to connect it to something that is probably already configurable
balmy wolf
they are using a new engine
which is why it is so slow
instead of you know, USE FUCKING UNREAL 4
clever wagon
*4
supple nymph
i guess the only reason they used an old mmo engine was because of the 6 weeks to make a game thing?
and it wasnt actually a thought out decision?
balmy wolf
It could be worst though. Like Electronic "let's force our dev team to use a FPS engine that can't handle a RPG" Arts
supple nymph
shitbyte
balmy wolf
EA really want everyone to use Frostbyte
even though it is limited
and Unreal Engine has been used in almost every genre now
hell, even Namco used it for Tekken 7 and it runs fucking great
and Japanese devs never fucking use Western engine
balmy wolf
ID is pretty good with their engine so they can fix it up before release
their games are mostly technological porn with barely any thoughts behind story or lore
clever wagon
Hopefully so
balmy wolf
Doom, Quake, Quake 2, Doom 3, Wolfenstein, etc etc
they are all technological hallmarks
balmy wolf
#who-even-knows-anymore-discussion
clever wagon
If Blizz did something good for OW esports that everybody can appreciate, then it's back to #esports-discussion
๐๐ป
balmy wolf
this channel only has one mod that used to check it regularly
and now he's going to be a lot less active
there's sprite too but idk where he is most of the time
supple nymph
speaking of esports would apex use the new patch tomorrow?
supple nymph
balmy wolf
Maybe not even
It takes a while for the tournament realm to patch
I'd say the 2nd semi might have it
supple nymph
must be confusing practicing on one then tournaments on another
balmy wolf
not really
people do that a lot
teams that are in playoff have access to Tournament realms
but only those who in though
not those who out
supple nymph
ahh
clever portal
I think semis might have it
Takes them a week to patch
Weird that their own league 
doesn't get it though
balmy wolf
that article lol
clever portal
The tournament servers I mean
balmy wolf
I dont see speedboost and pulse in the top 3
probably not even top 10
scatterarrow is right though
With hog ohks all but dead
everyone who complained about him
will turn to scatterarrow
and it will be nerfed
supple nymph
did they post anywhere what the 200mb update was for
clever portal
Could be Orisa fix
balmy wolf
Isnt
clever wagon
expects people to PTR
takes 91802381923481923 centuries to even just enter a self-created custom game with 11 AI
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
jovial eagle
kind lake
no
blazing parrot
@kind lake 
kind lake
hi
blazing parrot
hi
clever wagon
kind lake
who the best team
kind lake
why
blazing parrot
@balmy wolf
kind lake
but i mean like, how so. like are they just really good, or can they counter the meta nice and shit
why
clever wagon
Because they've dominated nearly if not all NA teams
balmy wolf
They're the clear cut top 2 in the region
Selfless took maps off Rogue but they've started doing worse
Evil took maps back in the day aswell
And then envy pretty much dominated the same as Rogue did when they came back from Apex S3
They only lost to Rogue because they were playing with a new player
and hadn't gotten to scrim
and it was a 3-2
clever wagon
And it was Lui, not Effect
balmy wolf
And the envy coming back has Effect now
So I'm gonna say Envy is the best western team
KDP are probably #1 KR
AFB might be better going by them not losing a map so far the entire season, but they haven't played the top teams (LWB, LH, KDP, Envy) yet so we'll have to see
balmy wolf
lol that logo
supple nymph
not embedding for some reason...
clever wagon
limber pine
I think so
and 
should decide the winner of the group
and 
might decide who places 2nd and who goes home
and 
currently leading their group
balmy wolf
and 
is potential fireworks as well
limber pine
yeah
there's a lot of people who aren't happy with the selection, but I think it's pretty good
balmy wolf
the potential of 
flunked this though
I would have been happier seeing teams I haven't seen play
ourisde of what, Misfits and Team Expert
and Toronto
everyone else is new
Expert, Misfits, Toronto, Yikes
In place of BP, TeC, $? and Tempo
balmy wolf
it is not bad selection tbh
but I feel like Misfits vs NWA is going to be a roll
123 vs Alfa Squad as well
blazing parrot
clever wagon
KappaPride
Still needs a way to go to reach casting couch levels though
Oh, this one's actually closer
clever wagon
Bio says so
clever wagon
Jumping Genjis, where I miss my hook, are now a lot easier to kill/ to distract.
If they put it like that, doesn't that mean old Roadhog's hook combo took more skill to reliably punish mobile heroes? You have to bait and time the Genji's deflect, one mistake and he escapes and you have to perfectly land your M2 rather than just spam it.
balmy wolf
from the way i see it, the new Hog is actually a nerf against dive and flankers
clever wagon
That too
Because his shots aren't as beefy, Winston doesn't even have to be afraid of him
balmy wolf
his hook's OHK is decrease but anyone with a good aim can make use out of this hog
clever wagon
And Winstons already weren't afraid of Roadhogs as much with his new shield cooldown
clever wagon
pseudo sail
ICYMI Part 2 of my interview with winz, the focus of this one is his time in Overwatch.
winz on his career, Korea, stats, and more: 'There is always a reason [when players are cut].'
balmy wolf
wow
clever wagon
Whoa
balmy wolf
it totally wont be like a last one but with a little treat
@clever wagon nice, good luck
clever wagon
30-man roster strikes again
clever wagon
Gods - Sinatraa vs Kaiser now live
balmy wolf
I wonder what they will do with Cyclowns forfeit
asked Noukky
and she said it was confidential
gifted team in their group an auto 4-0?
oh
Destro joined Movistar Riders
wary falcon
Envy will win 3-2?
rapid oxide
Silkthread is on CGL but not as sub
wary falcon
Koth and 2CP to X6 and other 3 maps to nV
clever portal
If someone has the time to read the rules you can probably see what happens with forfeits
clever portal
Good to see a lot of Cyclowns boys instantly got teams
balmy wolf
Cyclone DPS duo separated 
clever portal
I didnt even get to see Cyclowns lol
No EU overwatch
And in the two tournaments I saw
In Pit they weren't there
clever wagon
Cyclowns playing? TakeOver 2
clever portal
In Takeover they were already gutted
I think there was something else in between
Might catch the vod
forest raven
There were in the TakeTV quals
I think
clever wagon
When was the last time I saw @forest raven in #esports I wonder
9812381923 years ago?
forest raven
They played with their full roster in the quals
forest raven
They had Boombox and Mow in the quals
That's why they 3-0'd literally everybody, IIRC
@clever wagon
clever portal
I guess Denial got dropped in Na
Insane that some top teams are being dropped in EU
clever portal
I guess partially
According to Alicus a lot of these teams only had rosters to resell them
And there is 0 org interest in EU
And now even if there were, there are some really good completely free agent teams
So rosters like NiP had little sell value
clever wagon
Dreamhack, ESL, TakeTV... It's not like there's no big esports organizers that don't want to host the game
But, first if they wanted to the company itself shows no intention of supporting, let alone care about it (aside from the game licensing)
And then this year happened
I mean isn't it like "hey, we have a new game, if you want to host a tournament"
supple nymph
"hey, we have a new game, if you want to host a tournament fuck yourself"
red anvil
just one match in apex today?
supple nymph
yes
red anvil
any known reason they dont do double matches today?
clever wagon
Not necessarily the answer he asked for
forest raven
Final is end of July because of WC
clever wagon
That's more a running complaint rather than an answer
crisp lynx
If two games are played on today, there's a broadcast gap in the middle. so one match a day
Ogn broadcasts on the air also
clever wagon
Matchticker doesn's show anything of a second match
But Gosu matchticker has been trash for recent events anyway
I.e. they didnt' show anything for Contenders until h-12 or so
clever wagon
Oh in fact funnily enough they don't show Contenders which is in a day or so
rapid oxide
OPC is close to finals, today semi but no one give a shit 
Blank vs Ahq
Who win will face Flashwolves
crisp lynx
Blank
rapid oxide
Ahq is not bad
crisp lynx
i saw round 1 only. blank was untouchable.
balmy wolf
Blank are 2-2 vs ahq
clever portal
IMO it's the same as this game
AHQ vs Blank Close game
But they will get recked by Flash Wolves
balmy wolf
3:0, 3:1 wins 0:3, 2:3 losses
clever portal
Like KDP destroying whoever wins today
clever wagon
C'mon NV
red anvil
If X6 wins against nV again 
clever wagon
God I hope not
red anvil
Please let X6 win over nV
crisp lynx
Taimou could have a long vacation.
clever portal
Long aka one more week LUL
clever wagon
C'mon Timo, have one last hurrah before you go into a break
red anvil
i dident see the last match but he have been under preforming so far
effect carrying the heck out of them
clever wagon
He was carrying before Effect arrived
crisp lynx
in australia vs chips, harry
clever wagon
I'll be the weird asshole who support NV in this
feral solar
taimou widow probs
clever wagon
C'mon Timo channel some more of that depression power
Misfits Mineral is in the chat
supple nymph
i get it
clever wagon
(Twitch chat)
thick cosmos
Some great tracer play so far
supple nymph
LOOOLO
crisp lynx
LUL
clever wagon
Nice NV keep this up
red anvil
LOL
thick cosmos
LOL
feral solar
hahah
red anvil
Harry amazing hook
crisp lynx
Harryboop
feral solar
LETS GO
feral solar
cant use twitch emotes
clever wagon
No, we can since Mercybot got deleted from the server
cedar rain
Harry why
clever wagon
"Let's nerf Zenyatta next" - Blizzard
Why overextend holy fuck
That was an overcommitment of ults
5v1 NotLikeThis
TIMO WHY
supple nymph
throw
clever wagon
DYING TO A BABY DVA
Got this in the bag
Fucking hell
Nice, not bad not bad
Can do this
crisp lynx
it would be 3:0
pine star
Waking up to nV winning 
pine star
I should call in sick today 
pine star
@supple nymph lmfao
pine star
Timo just wants to play good Hog once more
pine star
Break 
cedar rain
Looking good for NV
supple nymph
EMP ALWAYS UP
clever portal
Where was Micki for the visor?
thick cosmos
Wow
clever wagon
J. F. C
clever portal
For some reason NV seem to lose Overtime engages a lot
crisp lynx
Don't worry, nV didn't lose a 2CP map yet.
supple nymph
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clever wagon
NV's all positioned in a way that they can easily surround the entrance from all sides
Is Effect best Tracer to date yet?
Oh
Oh wait
Would Sombra get nerfed next?
Yes
YES
thick cosmos
Najsu
forest raven
๐
pine star
Let's go champ 
feral solar
gg
clever wagon
JUNKRAT WAS A FLUKE
wary falcon
They didn't run junkrat this time?
pine star
clever wagon
BlessRNG EnVyUs, once again the west's hope BlessRNG
supple nymph
clever wagon
LH vs LWB Kreygasm
pine star
I like this group stage bracket so much
clever wagon
Everything that has happened though
I'm thinking up a pasta
Hmm
Uhh
Fuck my English
Someone help me with this pasta I'm thinking of
pine star
pine star
You're embarrasing me
glad chasm
Poor nv having to get dicked out by KDP in semis
clever wagon
Btw, they ran dive Hog again
pine star
๐ฏ Hog ๐ฏ
glad chasm
Except it wasn't dive
clever wagon
Yeahhh
glad chasm
I think you have trouble discerning what dive is regardless of which of your discord accts you post from
clever portal
Anyone watching blank?
clever wagon
We Discord smurfs now SeemsGood ok champ
glad chasm
Just your weird ass
clever wagon
Mmmhm
glad chasm
Really takes the hype out of what would have been an epic lwb vs LH match if both janus and whoru don't play
rapid oxide
who's gonna watch BO3 BO7 in OPC? 
pine star
rapid oxide
Yes... potential 21 matches
clever wagon
๐ฅ
pine star
DansGame wtf
rapid oxide
pine star
rapid oxide
after that there's the grand final
same as before
... 
just max 24 matches to decide who's the winner
gentle oasis
what is this bs?
clever portal
I think FW games are next week
rapid oxide
can OPC and APEX have a fucking normal system?
pine star
I hate those gamertags with the team name abbreviation in them
clever wagon
That's Blizz's battletag's fault
pine star
BLK RQT instead of BLKRQT
clever wagon
So simplistic in 2017
pine star
I mean, they are on a tournament realm
clever wagon
When Steam can make all the profile name possible
pine star
So one would think it wouldn't be so hard
rapid oxide
i think only dota have them
balmy wolf
most of the teams that do that separate it with periods
clever wagon
It's not the problem of the team name in the playername
pine star
LoL too
balmy wolf
like back in apac
clever wagon
Battletag system itself
balmy wolf
when all teams had it
clever wagon
Is the problem
For being so inflexible in 2017
If that wasn't the case they could've made "[team initial] player name" for example
But no
Battletag doesn't allow space or punctuations
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
clever wagon
Battletag system
pine star
clever wagon
Not the client's issue
Blizzard's as a whole
They still connect to Blizz servers after all
pine star
The game could just concatenate both the team initials and the battletag separated by an space
The name shown doesn't have to be the actual battletag
rapid oxide
maybe that will change when they will introduce some sort of clan stuff
pine star
So it can be fixed client-side
clever wagon
And with tournament realm having ID progression...
rapid oxide
if you have a guild system
clever portal
It's not tournament
rapid oxide
having a tag in front of your name is not complex
rapid oxide
you can change it
clever wagon
Tournament realm now has ID progression, so they still use a working ID database just like live servers
pine star
It is tournament realm
rapid oxide
you can artifically change the level
pine star
^
pine star
Also ^
pine star
This is a Blizzard sanctioned league just like APEX after all
forest raven
Everything over $10k is Blizz sanctioned
clever wagon
Eh, the one in closed beta seems pretty meh aesthetically for me compared to what we have now
Weird colors all around
Almost like Windows high contrast theme
pine star
@forest raven yeah but not all of them are Blizzard sanctioned leagues
forest raven
True
clever wagon
Blizzard folding chairs
rapid oxide
yes but it's way simple and identify instantly that you are spectating the red/blue <hero>
pine star
Mustache 
clever portal
Pixie 
supple nymph
do pros use a custom higher sens for tracer?
pine star
I've seen some with a somewhat standard sens
And others with crazy high sens
Like, fucking crazy high
Like Vallutaja
iirc
supple nymph
icic
i bought a large goliathus for a mousepad before i realized a lot of pros use even bigger ones
so cant really fly my arm around my desk like them
supple nymph
well i do too im just thinking of tracer
pine star
Jehong plays on the lower sens I've ever seen a pro play in, and his mouse pad is smaller lol
supple nymph
where you are doing 360s but need good tracking
pine star
I'm a Tracer main so
pine star
800dpi
I don't remember the exact in-game value I have right now tho
It's been like a week since I opened the game
clever portal
300 viewers for playoffs FeelsGoodMan
forest raven
Taiwanese stream has like 3.3k
balmy wolf
straight fire
pine star
This kid is so obnoxious in my opinion
And that's coming from someone who loves trash talk
forest raven
mykL and xQc trash talk is 
rapid oxide
i prefere mylk trashtalk over xqc
pine star
I prefer xQc tbh
balmy wolf
yeah i agree
like compare that tweet
to any of xqc's trashtalk tweets
that one is probably better than 80% of them
pine star
I mean, I like xQc's trash talk because he comes out as dumb sometimes
But mykL is just an asshole
rapid oxide
https://twitter.com/xQcOW/status/876753297536954368 bad trashtalk and he's even pussy to protect himself
Twitter
balmy wolf
i dont really care what their personality is
good trashtalk good player?
good shit in my book
rapid oxide
winz trashtalk were nice
forest raven
Winz is the textbook example of how to trashtalk
balmy wolf
Ill never forget the tweet from the payload on holly
perfect
he's a master of the craft
pine star
winzSMUG
forest raven
The thing Winz has down is that he knows when to stop and go
balmy wolf
when he's on the payload its go go go
forest raven
When they get beaten and demolished by two of Korea's best teams it's stop stop stop
pine star
Just look at it
thick cosmos
When contenders playoffs happen it says on liquipedia that they are playing for seeds 7-8, 5-6, 3-4, 2 and 1 for season 1,how do they decide which teams are 7-8 and 5-6?
balmy wolf
wut
the teams that make quarterfinals are qualified for Season 1
and then the playoffs are just for seeding purposes
rapid oxide
is losing
rapid oxide
and cute also 
clever portal
Lot of breaks
Like Apex finals
For the semis imo they should just play
GivePLZ 
take my energy TakeNRG
supple nymph
? 
?
balmy wolf
wat
clever portal
@supple nymph trying out some new emotes
rapid oxide
i dont know who to cheer for
clever portal
Blank probably won Volskaya
rapid oxide
because all the team should shine in importance
clever portal
Ahq destroyed on Gibraltar
rapid oxide
Reverse Sweep? 
clever portal
Not reverse sweep because it's Bo7 PunOko
But seriously, blank might win 4-2
looked completely lost
dusty surge
Oh, missed it again. rekt
clever portal
Missed 
?
toxic yacht
well
I just watched nV vs x6
this was rape lmao
I expected a somewhat close 3-1 for envuys
but not this
toxic yacht
nv threw hanamura hard though
and yeah, not gonna beat KDP :(
they won't get rekt though
3-1 at worst
forest raven
I'm thinking it'll be a 3-1
solid spear
Final 4 though still :>
forest raven
solid spear
KDP*
toxic yacht
hek
solid spear
KDU is lul
solid spear
Theyve looked very good
toxic yacht
their matches were mostly vs teams that were a bit weaker/I didn't give a shit about
forest raven
AFB has dominated a gutted RunAway and KDU, dominated a Meta Athena that hasn't adapted to the dive meta and the best Challenger team
But still a Challenger team
balmy wolf
woke up to see nV in
clever portal
All KR teams and coaches: "AFB is one of the best teams in the tournament"
balmy wolf
a bit lol but ok
clever portal
NA Discord Armchair analysts: "AFB is an unproven team"
Even when Arhan lifts the trophy
People will claim they had the easy bracket
balmy wolf
AF Blue is underrated atm
clever portal
Didn't have to face [insert random team here]
balmy wolf
the problem is that I think their victory are so swift that it put doubt in term of their strength
toxic yacht
no one said that they were unproven though 
the fact that they crushed every team they played against means something
what I'm curious about is how they'd play vs a team like KDP
toxic yacht
that's because LW Blue has consistently proven that they can stomp
and we've seen them go up against the best teams
AFB is just stomping atm
note that this doesn't meant that they're bad, the way they've been stomping means that they are a very good team
toxic yacht
the thing is, i don't believe that LWB would win against KDP
the last match doesn't count
balmy wolf
daily reminder that LW Blue actually won a LAN