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I wouldn't say they're inconsistent
Even during their massive drop in form they were rank 2 NA
they were #1 NA until Rogue gave NA the baguette
unless you're talking about... gosu rankings
Yeah
gosu rankings are kind of shit
mind you someone tried to told me that Mastermind GC (team with Cantus) is a good team because they ranked 2nd in over.gg's ranking
over Blank.
winning a regional LAN isn't equal being 2nd on a major international LAN
automated rankings are shit on that regard
Major international LANs happen once every 17 years
They might be better than overgg though
Right now some Chinese team and flash wolves are top 10
Overwatch Pacific Championship is still happening
oh hey people be postin
Major international LANs happened 3 times in one year last year REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
shit, who summoning CaptainPlanet here
within 4 months too
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there's definitely a lack of NA/EU
LAN
but elsewhere there's a bunch
so it is basically just NA/EU Blizzard being dumb
smh
region already weak but idiots in the upper brass have to also be idiot as well
They need some world's type event as well
Blizzard has already showed us multiple times that they don't give a flying shit about EU, lul
@frank frigate that profile pic Kreygasm
they suck KR dick for anything esports related and put NA ahead with everything else
well, that's because KR is doing itself rn
and blizzard is like "awwww, we love you guys, so we won't kill your scene that's going pretty well"
it is not like NA/EU has tourny organizer that can't do those
but there has been a couple of tournys that was suspects
like MSI MGA
hell even NGE Winter Premiere
those fools basically ran out of money mid tourny
👀
Left guy > middle guy PunOko
They need to have the legendary overwatch squad cast at some point
funnily enough, NGE casters are former TF2 casters
Left guy, middle guys and slasher on webcam on the right
God no
so good luck
Left Guy is much better than the lot
What happened lol
Left Guy is a genuinely good guy
by being a caustic little shit that always get kick out of every scene he is in
Blizzard basically told everyone to not bother with Slasher
I like left guy
and he at least knows that he's the butt of everyone's jokes
lul
NGE middle guy is a meme now though
feel kinda bad for him
Rivalcade guys got much better once they got a place to stream from
forgotten meme lol
NA production still, but the quality went up a lot
I'll never forget him
Made for a few really good laughs
especially the "NGE middle guy appreciation thread"
I still remember the sweat 
Surprised Contenders took Jamerson
I was expecting Joshy
No Uber......
JKap is there..
Maybe all the Takeover 2 hijinks got on Blizz's nerves
It was only KappaPride because of the players
jetsetjamerson is nice and all, I think he's good
but you don't just tear apart jkap and uber
that's like hex without ZP
just saying, fuckin Eleauge had ZP without Hex
`S Tier (>=95% Usage Rate): Lucio (97%), Winston (95%)
Tier 1 (>80% Usage Rate): Tracer (88%), D.Va (80%)`
Absolutely fucking disgusting
iirc esl did that too, although I may be wrong
at leaast they made him more fun to play
if they can't do anything about his omnipresence, at least make him more skillful, give him more playmaking potential and make him more fun overall
which is what they did
Most diverse meta my ass lol, it just took more time than usual to settle
Roadhog was the problem 4Head
I still insist that the only real meta with the most diversity since 1HL was beyblade
Beyblade was aids
the beyblade itself was dumb, but diversity and pace-wise, it was one of the best
Bayblade was lit
Discord meta 👌
pretty much all DPS were picked
Shut up Oreo
I think non-dive 2-2-2 before triple tank
all tanks apart from dva got got picked
Wha!
I mean, bayblade was 2-2-2
like, shadowburn played one map
has hanzo
mostly
freaking shadowburn hanzo
beyblade was either triple tank or 2-2-2
if your name was misfits or fnatic it was permanetly 2-2-2
or rogue
I mean even when it was 2-2-2 it was mostly Mei cancer
Hanzo is still viable on some maps, just other dps' are plain better
eh
I also thought so
then I rewatched some ow open matches
it really wasn't that much mei
Hanzo is less viable against dive
it's just burnt into our minds
Less meat to farm dragon from
I wonder if Jamerson has sucked some dicks in order to get that caster seat
watched APAC again too
Kappa
it really wasn't that much mei
misfits and NRG spammed mei
like, misfits always ran mei-reaper
I was surprised by how little tviq mei was present
Looked kinda like this generally
Because Nevix is Mei god like Esca
libero guise
libero still tried
in s2
and it worked
never seen it again since then
tviq hanzo :(
Soldier in F tier, now that's something I haven't seen in a long time
it's weird to see tviq transition between projecile and hitscan the whole time
Wow
that soldier buff really made a difference
well, soldier buff, nanoboost nerf, dva buff
a lot happened that patch
except you're taimou or carpe you really don't wanna run Cree this meta
it's kinda hard to play cree when every team instadives you with 4 different heroes
and his aiming is 👍
like, the degree to which teams focus taimou's mccree
is ridiculous
although it's very justified
They're not idiots lol
You have to shut him down
like, yesterday meta athena
ltierally primal rage
just for taimou's cree
or when they were about to lose on dorado
Haven't seen that match
instead of going for a 6v6 at the payload and contesting
they sent libero and saya after taimou
an taimou still killed libero, lul
I have so much catching up to do 
yes, you fucking do
Wake me up when they nerf Mercy 
Wake me up when they acknowledge that Mercy was a mistake and delete her from the game lul
It has been one of those fucking months for me at work, which is good cause I get some extra money to improve my rig, but I've been missing so much 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6ik115/mind_fuzzs_new_video_on_mercy_mains/dj6vv4b/
What do you guys think abut this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6ioxe5/comprehensive_guide_to_why_mercy_doesnt_need_any/dj7y4xt/ this comment chain though
@iron cedar Mercy is OP, that's about it
People were crying about Ana being OP
Why not need mercy till her pick rate is lowered
Would increasing her ult charge rate help?
increase GA cooldown
Wake me up when they will start being fully committed on esport 
Keep sleeping FeelsBadMan
Ana can heal more
but needs to hit at least 70%+ darts
which is hard which explains why all these Mercy mains
they made lucio more mechanically intensive
Lúcio requires more mechanical skill
But he isn't McRee, spam choke and tanks
that makes sense
Rez is so unfun
Mechanical skill not necessarily means aim
That's really all it is
Mechanical is all about aim, tbh
Fuck Mercy and fuck everything it stands for
Not really
even if you talk about character mastery
it is all about whether or not you can use a character's toolkit effectively
if i keep blinking to wall as Tracer, obviously my Tracer needs work
Mercy mechanical skills? HaHAA
fuck you guys
Seriously guys stop the Mercy copypasta. It's degrading to us Mercy mains that try to save your sorry asses as you spam "I need healing". Yes, I AM a girl and I DO main Mercy so what? You want me to not play healer you ungrateful idiot? Me bearing with your bronze aim is enough. BTW SHOOT THE PHARAH! Thanks for your understanding, Mercy main.
Mercy one-tricks deserve the humiliation
I've reported you all for harassing gurl gamers 😤
I love esports
:/
THIS IS NO CANCER HERO PASTA ZONE
plz guys

Mods are here, hide the memes
#esports-discussion is my one happy place remaining

lmao
don't take that away from me

You hurt my kokoro with these words Sprite
Seriously guys stop the Mercy copypasta. It's degrading to us Mercy mains that try to save your sorry asses as you spam "I need healing". Yes, I AM a girl and I DO main Mercy so what? You want me to not play healer you ungrateful idiot? Me bearing with your bronze aim is enough. BTW SHOOT THE PHARAH! Thanks for your understanding, Mercy main.
r/cow already makes him cry enough
Oh fuck not you too
kek
AYYYY

because he had the audacity to actually respond to the users during that drama
sprite and euro are satan now
apparently
lul
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euro I can still somewhat understand, sprite is 🤔 though
but seriously though, mercy mains are the worst
yee
Mercy mains watching all the balance changes 
FUCK YOU. FUCK YOUR MERCY, FUCK EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR
Mercy one tricks*
Lowkey just hoping mercy has a game breaking bug and is disabled for a couple weeks
lowkey hoping that mercy gets deleted
You can always go to Pornhub or something Oreo
due to different reasons than now though
....
Spotted "disabled" and "Pornhub", I thought you were talking about disabled fetish
Fucking hell

Calm down

lolol
She just needs rework guys.
Which hasn't happened to this very fucking second
Get out mercy main
Who vouches for the deletion rework?
she needs an interesting mechanic
Delete or shoot 
I don't even own the game.
😥
Now screen cap this and go get some karma from mercy hate
like boomkins 2 expansions ago
I need friendly fire enabled so once I see a Mercy one trick in my SR I can be a toxic fuck and teamkill Mercy
or something like that
That would make Pharmercy even more broken
Double rez cost so I can kill people without them coming back every 30 seconds 👌
I saw that bro
I should have edited it to a "."
Yeah uh
There was that thing where a Mercy escaped my hook
And no, not because of LoS
She just got off my hook mid-GA
What if they make the beam act like Symmetra's? It would actually take more mechanical skill lmao
Make rez only work in los just to really hurt 
i mean there's also this https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6iorn0/mercy_being_crucified_for_our_sins_not_just_her/dj7w6sr/
"Mercy is the best burst healer with a beam"
That's a troll

I know a simple solution
That's a murder-worthy troll
"Rubbish, she can and does heal in a burst. A waterfall is a burst of water, and it is sustained. These are no exclusive things. Ana has sustained heals as well if you keep on your target. There's degrees to everything, this guy just had to pick up on something other than the point of the post to derail a discussion - and was very successful!"
Because it's fucking stupid
You can't play mercy unless you send blizzard proof you are grill
But that won't solve anything
I still don't want a Mercy in my comp game
Even if it's a girl
I prioritize my competitive integrity
240 health healing per 4 seconds vs 337 health healing per 4 seconds, but Ana is not a burst healer though
bangs his head to the wall
in conjuction with her grenade, which is an extra 50
Stop getting tilted overt that troll wolf.
Not worth your time.
dude, did you read the OP
Because there's nothing better to do in this dreary competitive scene of a game
You don't need to kill off your brain cells publicly to troll
Ana is still good but she is less universal
Zen is now the most favorable choice 
which is funny because if you tell people that when Ana got nerfed
Anyone > murky
They say that Blizzard should balance around normal players
But when was Ana op in plat?
in Plat people runs Mercy instead 
so no idea why they want to nerf Ana if they didn't look at the pros at least a few times
but now Mercy is everywhere
i dont understand why people wanted Ana nerf so harshly
now all they complain about reses everywhere
because tanks
because ana was stupid op
and now triple DPS
like, it wasn't even funny how broken she was
from triple tanks to triple DPS. This game is sensitive as fuck to balance patch but you know
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6iud43/the_new_meta_that_no_one_is_talking_about_222/ quality shit post though
Not complaining about my boy Zens rise
because everyone loves zen
just waiting for crys for zen nerfs again
Thank you for your report. This thread has been removed.
and her got nerfed
never understimate the community
quality advice
Mods DansGame
Guys I have a confession to make
Mercy is my second most played char this season
Plz no vote to kick
i see nothing wrong with that, the only issue with mercy is one tricks
mercy is my first character on QP
where's the cuddle?
hmm
🤔
and watch as the acc get delete when US national OW team get flunked out of the group stage 
lmao
"I tend to think our comms were better when we had a half-Swedish half-French roster. Just less unnecessary chatter but we can’t deny our current results."

"For Mendo, it was impossible to work with him. He was often late for practice—and I mean 2 hours late—never apologized for it, and wasn’t paying attention during the strategy talk. Blamed his mates for his own shortcomings behind their back, when talking to the coach ... and so on. We decided as a team to remove him after a week. It’s a shame his maturity got in the way, because he was a very good player and one of the rising stars back then."
more stuff about Mendo being shitter
if they dropped iddqd because of that
then lul
because he definitely stepped up on LANs during ESL and eleague
mind you
the stories about IDDQD being a shitter
and Minstrel hinting about him being an NRG ticking bomb
yee, that
but with how he didn't hesitate to shit all over mendo it's a bit weird to see him go soft on iddqd
inb4 r/compow explodes with this though
like seriously
there's a reason why Mendo is streaming after team hopping for god know how long
"There isn’t all that much to say about it. It’s the usual reason as to why teams break up: personal differences. Nothing fancy there. It was fine before we had to spend 2-3 months stuck together 24/7. It amplifies everything and it eventually blew up.
Which team has stayed intact after going to APEX? It’s probably worse for foreign teams than people think it is.
APEX format forces you into a situation in which you’re living on top of a each other, in a hotel with cockroaches (yup), bad beds, food you don’t like in a setting where Korean teams are doing everything to win on their home soil. You don’t sleep well, you don’t eat well, conflicts eventually appear. It really drains the energy out of you. It’s no surprise Taimou is burning out.
Some people would consider bootcamping in Korea the best practice there is, but I would argue otherwise."
APEX S1 broke my Rogue 
so it was APEX S1

I miss old Rogue
TviQ and aKm were my favourite DPS duo in the game
if you think about it
Fnatic, C9, old Rogue, and old nV
all had more or less retool or just got abandoned
after APEX
yee
according to you apex broke stoop
apparently mendo got crazy and tried to overthrow c9
rogue broke apart
talespin couldn't get along with taimou anymore after living in a hotel with him for so long

Stoop basically just said that he didn't feel like playing in such a high level anymore, especially when other tanks just clown on him.
I feel like USA in overwatch will be like England in football
They have the talent
But they will always choke/underperform
anyway, I think that dropping IDDQD was the right choice
shortly after that they introduced 1HL and teams got more fixed roles
forcing tviq on off-tank during a meta where genji and tracer are so strong seems kinda 
and since there was a 1HL you couldn't have iddqd and aKm run double cree
so a godlike mccree and a dps who can basically play everything, a really good zarya and a good winston and a pretty good shotcaller was better in the end anyway
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meanwhile commitee have nothing to do but banners lol
it's kinda funny that the entirety of current rogue was in the takeover 1 semi finals
rogue actually played melty and creation
and misfits
wait, was it semis?
probably not semis
but yeah, rogue played vs melty, who had nico, misfits, who had soon and creation, who had knoxxx
yeah, nV gonna fuk tomorrow
iirc they chose x6 because "they don't run random shit"
LUL
Pro of envy loss: Taimou will fix his mental/fisical stress
Cons of envy loss: "we welcome our overlord KR" KR 🐔 sucker
Just needa win for top 4
I just want them to win and taimou to cool the fuck off
problem with winning is
that they'll 100% get reinvited
Decline if you dont want to go
from 4 to 2
I hope that they decline
next year should be OWL league
They almost did this season
🙏 for timo
also, misfits pulled multiple c9's during the ow open, lul
it just wasn't in as short of a timeframe as c9
like, they could have 3-0'd nV on lijiang
but they got a 3-1 because SoOn got off the point too long while the only people on the point were his and tale's tracers
I hope nV will win tomorrow
I doubt there will be another season with international teams
They've all but confirmed Apex is KR OWL
So if there's going to be an NA one it will be at the same tine
🙏
I mean its not exactly easy to go compete in another country for 2+ months
Let alone 3 straight seasons
IMO a valid strat might be play a mercy/dva comp and tilt taimou
Use voice lines as well
but please call everything with the same name like OWL <region> pls 
ngl
tilting taimou only makes him stronger
he'll pick widow or mccree and kill everyone
he still has to get fined
That's true he's depressed 😦
Maybe going to world cup is a mistake
well, for one, he'd probably enjoy it more if he weren't getting dived by 4 people at once every match
But for his career obviously best choice
sombra is the only character he can play where he won't get fucked from 4 directions at the same time
I actually fear for players like Taimou
IMO in a year or less, players like Flow3r will be normal
We have already seen it, no KR top level player is a hitscan main
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sayaplayer
is a hitscan main
esca, although he plays a good mei
tajun
pine
IMO Saya is more impressive than Taimou though
there are a lot of KR hitscan meis
These players usually play all hitscan
Taimou doesn't play tracer
This is a massive weakness
Nope
although he got pretty good on her now
his mccree is really good
there was a time when he was the best dps in KR
too bad that his best two heroes aren't meta
I mean this meta is pretty aids especially for a guy like Timo who doesnt Tracer
I don't remember this time
during Tank meta was 
it was around the time when we got introduced to the KR scene
maybe a bit earlier
but around that time, he was considered to be the best dps in korea
"this meta is the best meta ever happened" "this meta is cancer" 
Around world cup as well
timo hates it
Esca was considered top 3 McRee/Mei
he's top 1 mei tho
I still consider him to be the best mei
DONT COME HERE TELLING SEAGULL IS BETTER
thank you
so shitty ayyyy 
are all examples of better meis
seagull isn't the ebst anything
tbh
maybe his bastion 
Not even Junkrat 
Seagull is at best top 10 projectile player NA
Dive was always cancer is just wasn't all dive before thats why the meta was bearable
not so many good projectiles
Train, Agilities...
not to descredit seagull too much, but he really doesn't have too much competition
NA got farmed by Nico EleGiggle
more time he streams, more he will become shit
surefour is the better projectile player anyway, and he focuses on hitscan lul
like, legit
we have no way of measuring how good seagull is now
yeah, he was good during beta
and early launch
then NRG had their massive slump (although people always said that seagull was their best player, lul)
and now he's just streaming
wouldn't shock me if a lot of people have gotten better than him in that time
need to see him play in a decent environment before I can call him good
tbh
surefour thinks that seagull is still very good though
iirc
need to see him myself before I judge
he said that he preferred tournaments a few months back, but I honestly have no idea how he is now
I just want to see him play in a decent environment so that i can make my final assessment about his performance

atm all we have is "HE WAS GOOD 8 MONTHS AGO"
Calvin is definitely still good though
He was recking noobs in contenders qualifiers
I wouldn't say rekt
It was still close vs selfless
If there were 8 slots they would be in contenders right now
I think there is a way for Timo still
He can become the cancer
Become a dva main
Anyone and their mother can hitscan

Get ready for easier karma farming on you know where
lul
Game director Jeff Kaplan provides additional detail about improvements coming soon to our Highlights feature! Test out these changes now on the PTR: http://...
No replay system
it was in #overwatch-news reeeeeeeeeeeee
i muted it lol
lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6iv44t/dva_must_die_for_the_game_to_live/ wow
also what we need was more potg !!! /s
glad i unsubbed because people most likely will post shitty potg to "test" the new features

tfw you just realized that ow never had open cross
now I know what was off about the cross one, lul
Is that the Selfless Kresnik?
hello
Can change crosshair on Rein FeelsGoodMan
no, that's sinatraa
the purple colour means verified
btw
so yes, if a verified person is in esports
you can assume that it's actually that person
Why am I not purple
because u succ
Tru tru
i am gold on xbox where is my purple

Top 1000 Torb on Nintendo Switch gimme
just wait
literally nothing this patch
I'm gonna make my splatoon 2 pro team
recent ow patches are getting underwhelming
I mean, they released a balance patch just now
I mean we got a balance patch like 2 days ago
I'm not expecting anything too amazing on PTR
"balance"
also, this is probably a repost, but YourOverwatch made a decent video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4uufaexrDM
Today we try something new with an interview with pro player Selfless Emongg. FREEDO and Emongg riff about various Overwatch topics; his approach to pro OW, ...
"decent"
"Your Overwatch"

it's a good video though
Because Emongg is talking
yep, lul
@rapid oxide Exaclty
I hate paladins
ok
i HATE PALADINS!!!!!!!!!
nice
I HATE PALADINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@edgy remnant
😄
Max is the best youtuber
hmm
yeah there is paladins hater in esports paladins channel

Paladins is not a bad game
I like paladins a lot actually
it definitely has its problems but it's a pretty fun game overall
Overwatch has problem too 
Every game has problems.

it's a JRPG for PS3

Weaboos... 
who is kresnik then?
main character and his brother, though I took the name cause I liked the brother
julius is a badass
Weeb
:L
shut up shitoge
Leave me alone!

its funny that most pros are weebs
if you already wear the fact that you're a disgusting weeaboo on your sleeve like that, you at least gotta stand up when called out, pls
shit tier

when I'm not using every chance I have to take a shot at her
no.
Yes
phil heart bill


no.
yes.

i love esports, btw
well, considering the fact that a lot of anime viewers and people who play more video games than they really should tend to overlap
Yet Im still 
it's not really surprising
im not suprised
I mean, look at the regulars on this server ffs
@solid spear must be cause of your shit tier waifus
wow
Dhdhdhsvcrpw
tozic



Yes, that is my goal
wonder if tara will become one of those korean fangirls
tara is gonna turn to a korean
lmao
lol
you know, one of the only two good things on mobile discord is the fact that the client synchronizes the message order with the server
it tends to get all fucked up on pc

Gotta change my name back to reflect my fangirl hype
Dere we go
kek
weeb avatar
wow
at least I never had a weeb name + weeb avatar at the same time

._.
seagies
@balmy wolf See the new changes?
@balmy wolf you sure?
@balmy wolf you sure?
@balmy wolf you sure?
Seagies 😍
holy fucking shit stop
so being a weeaboo makes you pro 
why did you even ask @iron cedar
I'm pretty sure I'd be the best player in the game if that was true
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that.
Narootu mains rejoice; being a weeb makes you pro - Whytro, 2017.
I mean Sojum mains Genji for a reason
You is lies
no u
I dont main weeb ninja like u
Esports are pretty fab
I'm a mercy main
Seriously guys stop the Mercy copypasta. It's degrading to us Mercy mains that try to save your sorry asses as you spam "I need healing". Yes, I AM a girl and I DO main Mercy so what? You want me to not play healer you ungrateful idiot? Me bearing with your bronze aim is enough. BTW SHOOT THE PHARAH! Thanks for your understanding, Mercy main.
Hifu...ahem weeb
Lies
Custom crosshair
Cool
In PTR
Not cool
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6iv60o/new_crosshair_settings_on_ptr/dj9d6yr/
🕯 Roadhog 🕯
Запись 1-ой тренировки сборной России по Overwatch. Анонс состава: https://vk.com/sdburn?w=wall-114663733_516 Team Russia playing their first scrim and prepa...
Team Russia's scrim 👀
another one 👀
people this yer aren't getting hyped up about russia
I predict that it's gonna turn out like last year
with russia getting much further than anyone expects
Team Russia is low key stacked but you know
of course they won't beat rogue though
🙏 have faith
Also, Sdb posting video of training quite often
yee
most videos are private
Sdb said that Canada is their strongest opponent in groups
they're just lucky that they're not in the group with SK, lul
Well thats obvious @wary falcon
also, shadowburn proving why he's so good again. Literally killing everyone without ult, I love this guy 🙏
https://youtu.be/Q5D1qajhlmo?t=32s
Запись 1-ой тренировки сборной России по Overwatch. Анонс состава: https://vk.com/sdburn?w=wall-114663733_516 Team Russia playing their first scrim and prepa...
Because Canadian players are active pro players
like, sdb is one of the only genji's who can still be carrying his team with mediocre ults, lul
his ults are fuckign amazing though
also, forsak3n shotcalling again because rubi zen
or at least being lucio, I don't understand shit
I think France will be favourite on pinnacle
yeah
for some reason people believe that SK is gonna beat them, but lol
I know that korea is strong and all, but you gotta stay realistic
SK is made of 2 seperate teams and a 6th guy who are all practicing for their own tournaments in their own teams with different people
every scrim for rogue is world cup practice
Won't stop the fan boys though
like, the only advantage SK has is that they can analyze every game rogue has ever played and take advantage of those
also, half the team is LH, who beat rogue in a pretty convincing manner
but that's it
lul
Rogue just returned to the state after some vacation
they probably should feel good now
and just wait and practice until their ticket to wherever they need to be
yup
they won't have to make time for scrims, they won't have to get used to different teammates and playstyles
literally just do what they always do
reading the Winz interview, apparently they won scrims against AF Blue while there
too bad KR hotels strike again
yup
Rogue were overhyped before Apex S3
What's the tldr of the dev update
Wait people actually think Rogue can beat an LH + LWB superteam?
don't see them disappointing during the WC tbh
this isn't a "superteam", it's a bunch of people busy trying to get out of the apex lower bracket
in other words, busy with their own shit
Unless Rogue has thought of some sick new strats since being knocked out of apex, I dont see that happening
But Rogue is a team
While Korea is just a mix
like "swap all"
it's literally a team that practices every day
and gets better every day
vs a mix
that is too busy with their own shit
like, I get that koreans are currently the strongest in ow
Rogue absolutely can win
but they're only humans, lul
Rogue should win
if rogue doesn't win then lul
Rogue is going to be scrimming from now till the WC, with the exception of Season 1, and SK will scrim after Apex is over
And even though Rogue has scrimmed for longer they'll still win 😄
tbf though, synergy probably will not be a factor in team SK. They know how to work together
they being SK
right now, on paper SK is good
but just stop sucking SK's nuts, plz
lul, I'm gonna remind you of this when rogue wins
k
Of course SK looks good on paper
the reason when any of them looks good because of their team behind them, now they are busy practice for APEX
it makes no sense outside of "MUH KOREA" to assume that rogue is gonna lose vs a team that can barely practice
Anyways, i think France has 70-80% chances to win
Thinking Rogue will be relevant after a meta change EleGiggle
the meta only changes after another couple of patches
meta in this game changes drastically, but slow
dive would have to get completely gutted to push rogues style of play out
listen to this man, he knows his shit ☝
i don't see that happening for at least another few months, barring any drastic change for the main tanks tbh
they've played it enough to know how to make it work, unless it's 100% worthless
ya, it's not like the tank meta that completely relied on ana
back then you basically needed to nerf one character and it'd all fall apart
although, any nerf to Tracer/D.va might just be the one that blow it apart.
dive being so strong is the result of a lot of buffs and changes that happened in the past few months
or rather, force teams to modify it
I'm still very much against nerfing tracer
Overwatch is funny in this regard. Very sensitive to balance change, but very slow to change and the meta never really crystalize until like after a few months
and even then, Blizzard is balancing based on the plebs
it's no coincidence that the highest horizontal mobility hero in the game with really good burst damage and flanking capabliities is so strong in a meta that's focused on exploding specific targets
nerfs to DVa will probably just move things back to triple dps
which is where rogue shines anyway
you'd probably have to touch winston in some way
and I'm not an expert, so I wouldn't know how to change him
personally I think that the way Blizzard is handling balance patches based on all skill caps, gotta be prepare for any more random changes '
Hanzo buffs, anyone?
Probably would have to really mess with Tracer or Winston for dive to be not viable
mostly winston, methinks
Yeah
I still believe that tracer is fine
just very, very strong rn
the only questionable thing is pulse bomb since it's basically a free kill
and charges so fast
but like, if we weren't running 5 squishies on both teams
pulse bomb would be less effective
running 5 squishies + having to clump some squishies up to counter the dive
makes pulse really good
oh uh slightly off topic
but I think I made the most disturbing crosshair you can make

yeah
kinda reminds me of a grav
it doesnt pulse like that in game
that's just bloom
but uh
if it did, i don't think I'd be able to play from laughing
btw, I dunno if this is too much info for you, but how'd you end up getting carpe of all people?
i mean, i'd tell you if I knew the details
ah, management stuff
they were asking around, and then he was flying out
could have gotten Selly tbh
that's the extent of my knowledge 😛
I think carpe fits well too
considering he yelled spawn camp in our first scrim together
oh
atm he seems to be filling dafran's heroes anyway
well, I don't think that I ever saw dafran on cree
although he did play genji at times
dafran wasn't confident in his mccree
only ran it when he was tilted to oblivion in scrims
okay, I didn't expect that
McRee is a different aiming style
well, atm 76 is better anyway and he is super good on him
Same reason Taimou doesn't have the same level of aim with Soldier/Tracer
sometimes i scored bullshit kills with flicks
one time i two flick'd a dead eye McCree
but yeah, dafran also played mei during one of the last pre-carpe selfless matches I watched
and also pharah at some point
and looked really good on them
and his mei dm was good but he wasnt really willing to do set plays with it, beyond stuff like
wall off point
ah
so you mostly just put him on tracer or 76 and let him kill everything
also, the switch from dafran genji to sinatraa genji was also kinda interesting
I'm definitely excited to watch you guys play more in the future and stuff, so good luck during contenders later on
I thought Sinatraa was the og Genji
dafran played genji first iirc
illios vs LGE
they were down 2-0
then dafran went pharah
and later genji
also, OMM finals obv, but I'd rather not talk about that
Sin was our genji pre-dafran, we tried swapping them around a bit, mostly to keep consistency between diff comps
but dafran had some issues on genji cause of his lowass sens
we really only ran genji on set points anyways, any dafran switch to genji in a normal comp is like 50/50 between tilt switch or called switch
ah, ahh
Did you guys practise Anubis after the FNRGFE game?
this is all really interesting to hear. trying to be an armchair analyst is hard
Lol, we probably post a lot of bs
we definitely do, lul
a few pros lurk here, so they're probably just shaking their heads while we constantly talk out of our asses
we've been practicing the whole map pool, but we did watch the vods for that and figure out the big mistakes
I'll be honest, when I read those posts by LH coach I hadn't even thought of some of those things before
yup
i feel like we could have both
map pool, but then it's ban-ban-pick-pick-ban-ban-random
i forget what tourney did that but I really liked that format
it was a tourney we played in, so idts
iirc
okay, I've stopped keeping track of the systems that tournaments use since NGE tbh
dunno which one it was
Rivalcade
most of the time it's just done in game chat nowadays
especially since every rivalcade tournament has had an issue with the site as we went to use it
👀
recent tournaments have been slightly trimmed with map type order
iirc map pool where the loser picks the next map apex style?
like one map taken out of each mode









