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toxic yacht
rapid oxide
clever portal
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I wouldn't say they're inconsistent

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Even during their massive drop in form they were rank 2 NA

toxic yacht
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they were #1 NA until Rogue gave NA the baguette

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unless you're talking about... gosu rankings

clever portal
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Yeah

balmy wolf
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gosu rankings are kind of shit

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mind you someone tried to told me that Mastermind GC (team with Cantus) is a good team because they ranked 2nd in over.gg's ranking

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over Blank.

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winning a regional LAN isn't equal being 2nd on a major international LAN

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automated rankings are shit on that regard

solid spear
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Major international LANs happen once every 17 years

clever portal
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They might be better than overgg though

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Right now some Chinese team and flash wolves are top 10

balmy wolf
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Overwatch Pacific Championship is still happening

frank frigate
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oh hey people be postin

rapid oxide
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i find it relevant

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that's why jynLOVE

toxic yacht
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Major international LANs happened 3 times in one year last year REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

balmy wolf
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shit, who summoning CaptainPlanet here

toxic yacht
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within 4 months too

frank frigate
balmy wolf
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there's definitely a lack of NA/EU

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LAN

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but elsewhere there's a bunch

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so it is basically just NA/EU Blizzard being dumb

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smh

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region already weak but idiots in the upper brass have to also be idiot as well

clever portal
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They need some world's type event as well

balmy wolf
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coughs

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World Cup

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coughs again

toxic yacht
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Blizzard has already showed us multiple times that they don't give a flying shit about EU, lul

clever portal
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@frank frigate that profile pic Kreygasm

toxic yacht
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they suck KR dick for anything esports related and put NA ahead with everything else

clever portal
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I mean Blizzard did nothing in KR

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OGN made the scene themselves

toxic yacht
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well, that's because KR is doing itself rn

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and blizzard is like "awwww, we love you guys, so we won't kill your scene that's going pretty well"

balmy wolf
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it is not like NA/EU has tourny organizer that can't do those

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but there has been a couple of tournys that was suspects

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like MSI MGA

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hell even NGE Winter Premiere

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those fools basically ran out of money mid tourny

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👀

toxic yacht
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NGE monkaMEGA

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the middle guy gachiGASM

clever portal
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Left guy > middle guy PunOko

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They need to have the legendary overwatch squad cast at some point

balmy wolf
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funnily enough, NGE casters are former TF2 casters

clever portal
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Left guy, middle guys and slasher on webcam on the right

balmy wolf
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still better than Rivalcade though

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and Slasher is blacklisted

clever wagon
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God no

balmy wolf
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so good luck

clever wagon
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Left Guy is much better than the lot

clever portal
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What happened lol

clever wagon
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Left Guy is a genuinely good guy

balmy wolf
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by being a caustic little shit that always get kick out of every scene he is in

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Blizzard basically told everyone to not bother with Slasher

toxic yacht
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I like left guy

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and he at least knows that he's the butt of everyone's jokes

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lul

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NGE middle guy is a meme now though

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feel kinda bad for him

clever portal
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Rivalcade guys got much better once they got a place to stream from

balmy wolf
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forgotten meme lol

clever portal
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NA production still, but the quality went up a lot

toxic yacht
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I'll never forget him

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Made for a few really good laughs

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especially the "NGE middle guy appreciation thread"

clever portal
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I still remember the sweat monkaS

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Surprised Contenders took Jamerson

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I was expecting Joshy

balmy wolf
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No Uber......

clever wagon
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No Uber

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No JKap

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No KappaPride casting couch

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What has the world come to

clever portal
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JKap is there..

balmy wolf
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Maybe all the Takeover 2 hijinks got on Blizz's nerves

clever wagon
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Wait yeah JKap is there

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But I meant the pair as a whole

toxic yacht
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No Uber REEEE

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Well, JKap did more weird shit at takeover 2

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tbh

clever portal
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It was only KappaPride because of the players

toxic yacht
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jetsetjamerson is nice and all, I think he's good

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but you don't just tear apart jkap and uber

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that's like hex without ZP

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just saying, fuckin Eleauge had ZP without Hex

pine star
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`S Tier (>=95% Usage Rate): Lucio (97%), Winston (95%)

Tier 1 (>80% Usage Rate): Tracer (88%), D.Va (80%)`

Absolutely fucking disgusting

toxic yacht
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iirc esl did that too, although I may be wrong

clever portal
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EU without Sideshow and Bren NotLikeSoldier

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Lucio 'nerf' EleGiggle

toxic yacht
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at leaast they made him more fun to play

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if they can't do anything about his omnipresence, at least make him more skillful, give him more playmaking potential and make him more fun overall

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which is what they did

pine star
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Most diverse meta my ass lol, it just took more time than usual to settle

clever portal
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Roadhog was the problem 4Head

toxic yacht
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I still insist that the only real meta with the most diversity since 1HL was beyblade

solid spear
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Beyblade was aids

toxic yacht
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the beyblade itself was dumb, but diversity and pace-wise, it was one of the best

pine star
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Bayblade was lit

solid spear
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Discord meta 👌

toxic yacht
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pretty much all DPS were picked

pine star
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Shut up Oreo

clever portal
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I think non-dive 2-2-2 before triple tank

toxic yacht
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all tanks apart from dva got got picked

solid spear
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Wha!

toxic yacht
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it was mostly ana though

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a bit of zeny

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also, people played a ton of hanzo

pine star
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I mean, bayblade was 2-2-2

toxic yacht
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like, shadowburn played one map

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has hanzo

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mostly

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freaking shadowburn hanzo

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beyblade was either triple tank or 2-2-2

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if your name was misfits or fnatic it was permanetly 2-2-2

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or rogue

solid spear
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I mean even when it was 2-2-2 it was mostly Mei cancer

clever portal
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Hanzo is still viable on some maps, just other dps' are plain better

toxic yacht
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eh

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I also thought so

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then I rewatched some ow open matches

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it really wasn't that much mei

pine star
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Hanzo is less viable against dive

toxic yacht
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it's just burnt into our minds

pine star
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Less meat to farm dragon from

balmy wolf
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I wonder if Jamerson has sucked some dicks in order to get that caster seat

toxic yacht
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watched APAC again too

pine star
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Kappa

toxic yacht
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it really wasn't that much mei

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misfits and NRG spammed mei

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like, misfits always ran mei-reaper

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I was surprised by how little tviq mei was present

solid spear
clever portal
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Because Nevix is Mei god like Esca

balmy wolf
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tfw barely anyone remember Sanctum Hanzo anymore

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Tviq FeelsSadMan

toxic yacht
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libero guise

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libero still tried

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in s2

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and it worked

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never seen it again since then

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tviq hanzo :(

pine star
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Soldier in F tier, now that's something I haven't seen in a long time

balmy wolf
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oh, Tviq Bastion village

toxic yacht
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it's weird to see tviq transition between projecile and hitscan the whole time

iron cedar
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Wow
that soldier buff really made a difference

toxic yacht
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well, soldier buff, nanoboost nerf, dva buff

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a lot happened that patch

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except you're taimou or carpe you really don't wanna run Cree this meta

balmy wolf
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even then Taimou looks kind of crap

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last night Carpe was triple with Envy/Xepher

toxic yacht
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it's kinda hard to play cree when every team instadives you with 4 different heroes

balmy wolf
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and his aiming is 👍

toxic yacht
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like, the degree to which teams focus taimou's mccree

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is ridiculous

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although it's very justified

pine star
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They're not idiots lol

pine star
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You have to shut him down

toxic yacht
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like, yesterday meta athena

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ltierally primal rage

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just for taimou's cree

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or when they were about to lose on dorado

pine star
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Haven't seen that match

toxic yacht
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instead of going for a 6v6 at the payload and contesting

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they sent libero and saya after taimou

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an taimou still killed libero, lul

pine star
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I have so much catching up to do feelsbad

toxic yacht
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yes, you fucking do

rapid oxide
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Wake me up when they nerf Mercy NozoSleeper

toxic yacht
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Wake me up when they acknowledge that Mercy was a mistake and delete her from the game lul

pine star
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It has been one of those fucking months for me at work, which is good cause I get some extra money to improve my rig, but I've been missing so much feelsbad

iron cedar
balmy wolf
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@iron cedar Mercy is OP, that's about it

pine star
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She's not op imo

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She's fucking obnoxious and not fun

balmy wolf
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it is OP in a different sense

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as in the SR system favors supports

clever portal
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People were crying about Ana being OP

pine star
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Well yeah

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@clever portal she was tho lol

clever portal
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Why not need mercy till her pick rate is lowered

iron cedar
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Would increasing her ult charge rate help?

balmy wolf
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increase GA cooldown

clever portal
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IMO revert healing buff as well

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Mercy heals more than Ana

rapid oxide
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Wake me up when they will start being fully committed on esport NozoSleeper

clever portal
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Keep sleeping FeelsBadMan

balmy wolf
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Ana can heal more

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but needs to hit at least 70%+ darts

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which is hard which explains why all these Mercy mains

clever portal
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What I don't understand is

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So let's say you can't aim

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Why not become Lucio main

toxic yacht
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they made lucio more mechanically intensive

pine star
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Lúcio requires more mechanical skill

toxic yacht
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with the changes

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all of the people who got carried on lucio moved to mercy now

clever portal
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But he isn't McRee, spam choke and tanks

pine star
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pixelThenk that makes sense

solid spear
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Rez is so unfun

pine star
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Mechanical skill not necessarily means aim

solid spear
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That's really all it is

balmy wolf
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Mechanical is all about aim, tbh

clever wagon
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Fuck Mercy and fuck everything it stands for

pine star
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Not really

balmy wolf
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even if you talk about character mastery

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it is all about whether or not you can use a character's toolkit effectively

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if i keep blinking to wall as Tracer, obviously my Tracer needs work

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Mercy mechanical skills? HaHAA

toxic yacht
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fuck you guys

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Seriously guys stop the Mercy copypasta. It's degrading to us Mercy mains that try to save your sorry asses as you spam "I need healing". Yes, I AM a girl and I DO main Mercy so what? You want me to not play healer you ungrateful idiot? Me bearing with your bronze aim is enough. BTW SHOOT THE PHARAH! Thanks for your understanding, Mercy main.

clever wagon
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Mercy one-tricks deserve the humiliation

clever portal
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I've reported you all for harassing gurl gamers 😤

pine star
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I love esports

limber pine
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:/

clever wagon
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THIS IS NO CANCER HERO PASTA ZONE

limber pine
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plz guys

iron cedar
clever portal
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Mods are here, hide the memes

limber pine
clever wagon
toxic yacht
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lmao

limber pine
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don't take that away from me

pine star
clever wagon
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See guys, you made SpriteGuy cry

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Fuck you all

pine star
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You hurt my kokoro with these words Sprite

limber pine
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Seriously guys stop the Mercy copypasta. It's degrading to us Mercy mains that try to save your sorry asses as you spam "I need healing". Yes, I AM a girl and I DO main Mercy so what? You want me to not play healer you ungrateful idiot? Me bearing with your bronze aim is enough. BTW SHOOT THE PHARAH! Thanks for your understanding, Mercy main.

toxic yacht
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r/cow already makes him cry enough

clever wagon
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Oh fuck not you too

pine star
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kek

limber pine
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AYYYY

iron cedar
toxic yacht
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because he had the audacity to actually respond to the users during that drama

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sprite and euro are satan now

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apparently

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lul

toxic yacht
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euro I can still somewhat understand, sprite is 🤔 though

limber pine
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but seriously though, mercy mains are the worst

toxic yacht
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yee

clever portal
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Mercy mains watching all the balance changes mercypls

clever wagon
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FUCK YOU. FUCK YOUR MERCY, FUCK EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR

iron cedar
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Mercy one tricks*

solid spear
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Lowkey just hoping mercy has a game breaking bug and is disabled for a couple weeks

toxic yacht
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lowkey hoping that mercy gets deleted

solid spear
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I mean I want to look at her pls

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Disabled not deleted

toxic yacht
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deleted

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she's garbage

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have hated her since S2

pine star
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You can always go to Pornhub or something Oreo

toxic yacht
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due to different reasons than now though

solid spear
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Whose mans?!

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I would never

clever wagon
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....

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Spotted "disabled" and "Pornhub", I thought you were talking about disabled fetish

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Fucking hell

pine star
solid spear
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Calm down

limber pine
balmy wolf
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lolol

iron cedar
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She just needs rework guys.

clever wagon
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Which hasn't happened to this very fucking second

clever portal
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Get out mercy main

pine star
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Who vouches for the deletion rework?

limber pine
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she needs an interesting mechanic

clever wagon
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chiGun Delete or shoot chiGun

iron cedar
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I don't even own the game.
😥

clever portal
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Now screen cap this and go get some karma from mercy hate

limber pine
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like the longer she boosts somebody, the more effective her heal is

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and vice versa

solid spear
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No

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Pls

limber pine
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like boomkins 2 expansions ago

clever wagon
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I need friendly fire enabled so once I see a Mercy one trick in my SR I can be a toxic fuck and teamkill Mercy

limber pine
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or something like that

clever wagon
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That would make Pharmercy even more broken

solid spear
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Double rez cost so I can kill people without them coming back every 30 seconds 👌

limber pine
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I saw that bro

solid spear
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I wanna see it too

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Bb

toxic yacht
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I should have edited it to a "."

limber pine
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i think a increased rez cost is the first step

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but probably needs something else

clever wagon
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Yeah uh

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There was that thing where a Mercy escaped my hook

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And no, not because of LoS

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She just got off my hook mid-GA

pine star
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What if they make the beam act like Symmetra's? It would actually take more mechanical skill lmao

solid spear
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Make rez only work in los just to really hurt gachiGASM

clever portal
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It probably should

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Beam range is long af after connecting as well

balmy wolf
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"Mercy is the best burst healer with a beam"

clever portal
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That's a troll

iron cedar
pine star
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Troll or not, top kek na

clever portal
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I know a simple solution

clever wagon
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That's a murder-worthy troll

balmy wolf
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"Rubbish, she can and does heal in a burst. A waterfall is a burst of water, and it is sustained. These are no exclusive things. Ana has sustained heals as well if you keep on your target. There's degrees to everything, this guy just had to pick up on something other than the point of the post to derail a discussion - and was very successful!"

clever wagon
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Because it's fucking stupid

clever portal
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You can't play mercy unless you send blizzard proof you are grill

clever wagon
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But that won't solve anything

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I still don't want a Mercy in my comp game

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Even if it's a girl

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I prioritize my competitive integrity

balmy wolf
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240 health healing per 4 seconds vs 337 health healing per 4 seconds, but Ana is not a burst healer though

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bangs his head to the wall

limber pine
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she heals in bursts

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I don't understand how complicated that is

balmy wolf
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in conjuction with her grenade, which is an extra 50

iron cedar
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Stop getting tilted overt that troll wolf.
Not worth your time.

balmy wolf
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dude, did you read the OP

clever wagon
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Because there's nothing better to do in this dreary competitive scene of a game

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You don't need to kill off your brain cells publicly to troll

clever portal
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The barrier part is true though

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Winston/DVa destroy Ana

balmy wolf
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Ana is still good but she is less universal

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Zen is now the most favorable choice monkaS

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which is funny because if you tell people that when Ana got nerfed

clever portal
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Anyone > murky

balmy wolf
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they will say that Ana would still be better

clever portal
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They say that Blizzard should balance around normal players

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But when was Ana op in plat?

balmy wolf
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in Plat people runs Mercy instead HYPERLUL

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so no idea why they want to nerf Ana if they didn't look at the pros at least a few times

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but now Mercy is everywhere

red anvil
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i dont understand why people wanted Ana nerf so harshly

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now all they complain about reses everywhere

balmy wolf
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because tanks

toxic yacht
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because ana was stupid op

balmy wolf
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and now triple DPS

toxic yacht
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like, it wasn't even funny how broken she was

red anvil
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At it its top with D.va, sure i'll agree

balmy wolf
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from triple tanks to triple DPS. This game is sensitive as fuck to balance patch but you know

toxic yacht
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literally warped the entire meta

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around her

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for 6 months

balmy wolf
clever portal
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Not complaining about my boy Zens rise

balmy wolf
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"EnvyUS: 2 USA, 2 Canadians, 2 Koreans"

toxic yacht
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because everyone loves zen

red anvil
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just waiting for crys for zen nerfs again

balmy wolf
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Zen won't get nerf

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he is balanced

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but then again

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Hog was balanced

limber pine
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Thank you for your report. This thread has been removed.

balmy wolf
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and her got nerfed

red anvil
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never understimate the community

limber pine
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quality advice

clever portal
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Mods DansGame

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Guys I have a confession to make

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Mercy is my second most played char this season

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Plz no vote to kick

red anvil
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i see nothing wrong with that, the only issue with mercy is one tricks

rapid oxide
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mercy is my first character on QP

balmy wolf
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KappaPride

rapid oxide
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where's the cuddle?

clever portal
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In NA 2 guys being that close = KappaPride

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And cuddle

balmy wolf
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Kariv: "why did I sign that contract"

iron mauve
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hmm

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🤔

balmy wolf
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and watch as the acc get delete when US national OW team get flunked out of the group stage HYPERLUL

iron mauve
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lmao

balmy wolf
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"I tend to think our comms were better when we had a half-Swedish half-French roster. Just less unnecessary chatter but we can’t deny our current results."

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"For Mendo, it was impossible to work with him. He was often late for practice—and I mean 2 hours late—never apologized for it, and wasn’t paying attention during the strategy talk. Blamed his mates for his own shortcomings behind their back, when talking to the coach ... and so on. We decided as a team to remove him after a week. It’s a shame his maturity got in the way, because he was a very good player and one of the rising stars back then."

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more stuff about Mendo being shitter

toxic yacht
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if they dropped iddqd because of that

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then lul

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because he definitely stepped up on LANs during ESL and eleague

balmy wolf
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mind you

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the stories about IDDQD being a shitter

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and Minstrel hinting about him being an NRG ticking bomb

toxic yacht
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yee, that

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but with how he didn't hesitate to shit all over mendo it's a bit weird to see him go soft on iddqd

balmy wolf
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inb4 r/compow explodes with this though

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like seriously

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there's a reason why Mendo is streaming after team hopping for god know how long

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"There isn’t all that much to say about it. It’s the usual reason as to why teams break up: personal differences. Nothing fancy there. It was fine before we had to spend 2-3 months stuck together 24/7. It amplifies everything and it eventually blew up.

Which team has stayed intact after going to APEX? It’s probably worse for foreign teams than people think it is.

APEX format forces you into a situation in which you’re living on top of a each other, in a hotel with cockroaches (yup), bad beds, food you don’t like in a setting where Korean teams are doing everything to win on their home soil. You don’t sleep well, you don’t eat well, conflicts eventually appear. It really drains the energy out of you. It’s no surprise Taimou is burning out.

Some people would consider bootcamping in Korea the best practice there is, but I would argue otherwise."

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APEX S1 broke my Rogue FeelsSadMan

toxic yacht
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so it was APEX S1

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I miss old Rogue

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TviQ and aKm were my favourite DPS duo in the game

balmy wolf
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if you think about it

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Fnatic, C9, old Rogue, and old nV

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all had more or less retool or just got abandoned

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after APEX

toxic yacht
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yee

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according to you apex broke stoop

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apparently mendo got crazy and tried to overthrow c9

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rogue broke apart

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talespin couldn't get along with taimou anymore after living in a hotel with him for so long

balmy wolf
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Stoop basically just said that he didn't feel like playing in such a high level anymore, especially when other tanks just clown on him.

toxic yacht
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oh

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he was pretty good imo

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I have no idea what happened to him over there

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:/

balmy wolf
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we will never know

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the details, that is

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I know roughly what happen

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feels bad man

clever portal
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I feel like USA in overwatch will be like England in football

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They have the talent

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But they will always choke/underperform

toxic yacht
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anyway, I think that dropping IDDQD was the right choice

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shortly after that they introduced 1HL and teams got more fixed roles

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forcing tviq on off-tank during a meta where genji and tracer are so strong seems kinda blobthinkingglare

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and since there was a 1HL you couldn't have iddqd and aKm run double cree

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so a godlike mccree and a dps who can basically play everything, a really good zarya and a good winston and a pretty good shotcaller was better in the end anyway

rapid oxide
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meanwhile commitee have nothing to do but banners lol

toxic yacht
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it's kinda funny that the entirety of current rogue was in the takeover 1 semi finals

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rogue actually played melty and creation

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and misfits

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wait, was it semis?

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probably not semis

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but yeah, rogue played vs melty, who had nico, misfits, who had soon and creation, who had knoxxx

wary falcon
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X6 - nV tomorrow

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uhh

toxic yacht
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yeah, nV gonna fuk tomorrow

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iirc they chose x6 because "they don't run random shit"

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LUL

rapid oxide
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Pro of envy loss: Taimou will fix his mental/fisical stress
Cons of envy loss: "we welcome our overlord KR" KR 🐔 sucker

solid spear
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Just needa win for top 4

toxic yacht
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I just want them to win and taimou to cool the fuck off

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problem with winning is

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that they'll 100% get reinvited

rapid oxide
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im not sure

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they shrink that

solid spear
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Decline if you dont want to go

rapid oxide
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from 4 to 2

toxic yacht
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I hope that they decline

rapid oxide
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next year should be OWL league

solid spear
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They almost did this season

toxic yacht
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🙏 for timo

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also, misfits pulled multiple c9's during the ow open, lul

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it just wasn't in as short of a timeframe as c9

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like, they could have 3-0'd nV on lijiang

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but they got a 3-1 because SoOn got off the point too long while the only people on the point were his and tale's tracers

wary falcon
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I hope nV will win tomorrow

clever portal
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I doubt there will be another season with international teams

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They've all but confirmed Apex is KR OWL

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So if there's going to be an NA one it will be at the same tine

toxic yacht
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🙏

solid spear
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I mean its not exactly easy to go compete in another country for 2+ months

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Let alone 3 straight seasons

clever portal
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IMO a valid strat might be play a mercy/dva comp and tilt taimou

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Use voice lines as well

rapid oxide
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but please call everything with the same name like OWL <region> pls NotLikeMiya

toxic yacht
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ngl

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tilting taimou only makes him stronger

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he'll pick widow or mccree and kill everyone

rapid oxide
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if he lose

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he has to get fined before coming back AinyaGasm

toxic yacht
#

he still has to get fined

rapid oxide
#

That's true he's depressed 😦

toxic yacht
#

I just hope that he gets better :(

#

and starts enjoying ow again

clever portal
#

Maybe going to world cup is a mistake

toxic yacht
#

well, for one, he'd probably enjoy it more if he weren't getting dived by 4 people at once every match

clever portal
#

But for his career obviously best choice

toxic yacht
#

sombra is the only character he can play where he won't get fucked from 4 directions at the same time

clever portal
#

I actually fear for players like Taimou

#

IMO in a year or less, players like Flow3r will be normal

#

We have already seen it, no KR top level player is a hitscan main

toxic yacht
#

sayaplayer

#

is a hitscan main

#

esca, although he plays a good mei

#

tajun

#

pine

clever portal
#

IMO Saya is more impressive than Taimou though

toxic yacht
#

there are a lot of KR hitscan meis

clever portal
#

These players usually play all hitscan

#

Taimou doesn't play tracer

#

This is a massive weakness

toxic yacht
#

esca's 76 is lacking tbh

#

and he only recently picked up tracer

wary falcon
#

Nope

toxic yacht
#

although he got pretty good on her now

wary falcon
#

Esca's soldier is fine

#

And his tracer is just trash

rapid oxide
#

Esca mcree is fine too

#

i guess this is not his meta

toxic yacht
#

his mccree is really good

#

there was a time when he was the best dps in KR

#

too bad that his best two heroes aren't meta

solid spear
#

I mean this meta is pretty aids especially for a guy like Timo who doesnt Tracer

wary falcon
#

I don't remember this time

rapid oxide
#

during Tank meta was Awauu

toxic yacht
#

it was around the time when we got introduced to the KR scene

#

maybe a bit earlier

#

but around that time, he was considered to be the best dps in korea

rapid oxide
#

"this meta is the best meta ever happened" "this meta is cancer" NotLikeMiya

toxic yacht
#

look, it's simple

#

effect and soon love this meta

clever portal
#

Around world cup as well

toxic yacht
#

timo hates it

rapid oxide
#

Tank meta was cancer since beginnig

#

Dive didn't

clever portal
#

Esca was considered top 3 McRee/Mei

rapid oxide
#

he's top 1 mei tho

toxic yacht
#

I still consider him to be the best mei

rapid oxide
#

DONT COME HERE TELLING SEAGULL IS BETTER

toxic yacht
#

tbh

#

seagull is a pretty good mei, but definitely not the best

rapid oxide
#

thank you

toxic yacht
#

good for NA standards

#

but tviq, nevix

#

esca

rapid oxide
#

so shitty ayyyy HYPERLUL

toxic yacht
#

are all examples of better meis

#

seagull isn't the ebst anything

#

tbh

#

maybe his bastion HYPERLUL

rapid oxide
#

Not even Junkrat HYPERLUL

clever portal
#

Seagull is at best top 10 projectile player NA

toxic yacht
#

yes, but that's NA

#

and projectile in NA is 🤔

#

many good hitscans

solid spear
#

Dive was always cancer is just wasn't all dive before thats why the meta was bearable

toxic yacht
#

not so many good projectiles

rapid oxide
#

Train, Agilities...

toxic yacht
#

not to descredit seagull too much, but he really doesn't have too much competition

clever portal
#

NA got farmed by Nico EleGiggle

rapid oxide
#

more time he streams, more he will become shit

toxic yacht
#

surefour is the better projectile player anyway, and he focuses on hitscan lul

#

like, legit

#

we have no way of measuring how good seagull is now

#

yeah, he was good during beta

#

and early launch

#

then NRG had their massive slump (although people always said that seagull was their best player, lul)

#

and now he's just streaming

#

wouldn't shock me if a lot of people have gotten better than him in that time

#

need to see him play in a decent environment before I can call him good

#

tbh

wary falcon
#

from my POV esca was average

#

and then he became meme

toxic yacht
#

surefour thinks that seagull is still very good though

#

iirc

#

need to see him myself before I judge

clever portal
#

I doubt Seagull is ever coming back

#

That streaming cash too good

toxic yacht
#

he said that he preferred tournaments a few months back, but I honestly have no idea how he is now

#

I just want to see him play in a decent environment so that i can make my final assessment about his performance

#

atm all we have is "HE WAS GOOD 8 MONTHS AGO"

clever portal
#

Calvin is definitely still good though

#

He was recking noobs in contenders qualifiers

toxic yacht
#

emphasis on reking noobs

#

they got rekt the moment they played vs actual teams

clever portal
#

I wouldn't say rekt

#

It was still close vs selfless

#

If there were 8 slots they would be in contenders right now

#

I think there is a way for Timo still

#

He can become the cancer

#

Become a dva main

#

Anyone and their mother can hitscan

#

Get ready for easier karma farming on you know where

toxic yacht
#

lul

rapid oxide
#

No replay system

toxic yacht
rapid oxide
#

i muted it lol

toxic yacht
#

lol

rapid oxide
toxic yacht
#

pulse bomb

#

the fucking

#

mech

#

ffs

rapid oxide
#

also what we need was more potg !!! /s

#

glad i unsubbed because people most likely will post shitty potg to "test" the new features

rapid oxide
tough agate
#

i can finally have open cross dot back

#

it's been 10000 years

toxic yacht
#

tfw you just realized that ow never had open cross

#

now I know what was off about the cross one, lul

clever portal
#

Is that the Selfless Kresnik?

tough agate
#

hello

clever portal
#

Can change crosshair on Rein FeelsGoodMan

toxic yacht
#

no, that's sinatraa

#

the purple colour means verified

#

btw

#

so yes, if a verified person is in esports

#

you can assume that it's actually that person

solid spear
#

Why am I not purple

toxic yacht
#

because u succ

solid spear
#

Tru tru

clever portal
#

Guys I am pro on console

#

Verify pls

tough agate
#

i am gold on xbox where is my purple

toxic yacht
solid spear
#

Top 1000 Torb on Nintendo Switch gimme

toxic yacht
#

just wait

rapid oxide
#

literally nothing this patch

toxic yacht
#

I'm gonna make my splatoon 2 pro team

rapid oxide
#

recent ow patches are getting underwhelming

toxic yacht
#

I mean, they released a balance patch just now

solid spear
#

I mean we got a balance patch like 2 days ago

toxic yacht
#

I'm not expecting anything too amazing on PTR

rapid oxide
#

"balance"

toxic yacht
iron cedar
#

"decent"
"Your Overwatch"
zaryalol

toxic yacht
#

it's a good video though

rapid oxide
#

Because Emongg is talking

toxic yacht
#

yep, lul

iron cedar
#

@rapid oxide Exaclty

toxic yacht
#

doesn't change the fact that he made a decent video though

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

tender crystal
#

I hate paladins

toxic yacht
#

ok

tender crystal
#

i HATE PALADINS!!!!!!!!!

toxic yacht
#

nice

tender crystal
#

I HATE PALADINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

toxic yacht
#

@edgy remnant

blazing parrot
#

😄

tender crystal
#

Max is the best youtuber

edgy remnant
#

hmm

wary falcon
#

yeah there is paladins hater in esports paladins channel

iron cedar
rapid oxide
#

Paladins is not a bad game

tough agate
#

I like paladins a lot actually

#

it definitely has its problems but it's a pretty fun game overall

blazing parrot
#

hi rule

rapid oxide
#

Overwatch has problem too megumiBlush

blazing parrot
#

@tough agate where is your avatar from?

#

lol

#

nice edit

iron cedar
#

Every game has problems.

blazing parrot
tough agate
#

it's from the opening to Tales of Xillia 2

#

also where my name is from

blazing parrot
#

never watched it

tough agate
#

it's a JRPG for PS3

blazing parrot
rapid oxide
#

Weaboos... NicoEEEEEEEEEEE

blazing parrot
#

who is kresnik then?

solid spear
#

Kresnik brothers

#

In his avi

tough agate
#

main character and his brother, though I took the name cause I liked the brother

#

julius is a badass

solid spear
#

Weeb

tough agate
#

:L

blazing parrot
#

shut up shitoge

solid spear
#

Leave me alone!

blazing parrot
toxic yacht
#

literally chitoge in your name

#

🤔

blazing parrot
#

its funny that most pros are weebs

toxic yacht
#

if you already wear the fact that you're a disgusting weeaboo on your sleeve like that, you at least gotta stand up when called out, pls

solid spear
#

Leave my waifu alone

#

Take me instead

blazing parrot
#

shit tier

toxic yacht
#

I didn't even attack chitoge rn

#

it's one of those rare moments

blazing parrot
toxic yacht
#

when I'm not using every chance I have to take a shot at her

blazing parrot
#

philbill

toxic yacht
#

no.

solid spear
#

Yes

blazing parrot
#

phil heart bill

toxic yacht
blazing parrot
#

no.

toxic yacht
#

yes.

blazing parrot
toxic yacht
#

i love esports, btw

blazing parrot
#

same

#

why are most pros, weeaboos

toxic yacht
#

well, considering the fact that a lot of anime viewers and people who play more video games than they really should tend to overlap

solid spear
#

Yet Im still Bronze

toxic yacht
#

it's not really surprising

blazing parrot
#

im not suprised

toxic yacht
#

I mean, look at the regulars on this server ffs

blazing parrot
#

@solid spear must be cause of your shit tier waifus

toxic yacht
#

wow

solid spear
#

Dhdhdhsvcrpw

toxic yacht
#

tozic

blazing parrot
vestal mortar
#

🤔

#

Just booked my flights to Poland for the World Cup

solid spear
blazing parrot
toxic yacht
#

make sure to take many pictures with jehong

vestal mortar
#

Yes, that is my goal

blazing parrot
#

wonder if tara will become one of those korean fangirls

toxic yacht
#

tara is gonna turn to a korean

blazing parrot
#

ok

vestal mortar
#

lmao

toxic yacht
#

lol

#

you know, one of the only two good things on mobile discord is the fact that the client synchronizes the message order with the server

#

it tends to get all fucked up on pc

blazing parrot
vestal mortar
#

Gotta change my name back to reflect my fangirl hype

solid spear
#

Dere we go

toxic yacht
#

kek

#

weeb avatar

#

wow

#

at least I never had a weeb name + weeb avatar at the same time

solid spear
#

._.

balmy wolf
#

seagies

wary falcon
#

weeb name + weeb avatar

#

cwoosh is better overall

iron cedar
#

@balmy wolf See the new changes?

balmy wolf
#

yes?

#

why

solid spear
#

@balmy wolf you sure?

toxic yacht
#

@balmy wolf you sure?

iron cedar
#

@balmy wolf you sure?

vestal mortar
#

Seagies 😍

balmy wolf
#

holy fucking shit stop

edgy remnant
#

so being a weeaboo makes you pro thenkang

balmy wolf
#

why did you even ask @iron cedar

solid spear
#

I'm pretty sure I'd be the best player in the game if that was true

iron cedar
#

Sorry about that.

toxic yacht
#

Sorry about that.

dusty surge
#

Narootu mains rejoice; being a weeb makes you pro - Whytro, 2017.

solid spear
#

I mean Sojum mains Genji for a reason

toxic yacht
#

I am not a weeb

#

I don't even know genji's basic kit

solid spear
#

You is lies

toxic yacht
#

no u

solid spear
#

I dont main weeb ninja like u

vestal mortar
#

Esports are pretty fab

toxic yacht
#

I'm a mercy main

#

Seriously guys stop the Mercy copypasta. It's degrading to us Mercy mains that try to save your sorry asses as you spam "I need healing". Yes, I AM a girl and I DO main Mercy so what? You want me to not play healer you ungrateful idiot? Me bearing with your bronze aim is enough. BTW SHOOT THE PHARAH! Thanks for your understanding, Mercy main.

solid spear
#

gachiGASM Hifu...ahem weeb

toxic yacht
#

I do not recognize that chinese cartoon lol weebs

#

I don't main weeb ninja

solid spear
#

Lies

balmy wolf
#

Custom crosshair

#

Cool

#

In PTR

#

Not cool

#

🕯 Roadhog 🕯

#

Team Russia's scrim 👀

toxic yacht
#

another one 👀

#

people this yer aren't getting hyped up about russia

#

I predict that it's gonna turn out like last year

#

with russia getting much further than anyone expects

balmy wolf
#

Team Russia is low key stacked but you know

toxic yacht
#

of course they won't beat rogue though

wary falcon
#

Team Russia don't have any chances

#

:^)

#

with Nognac and Txao

toxic yacht
#

🙏 have faith

wary falcon
#

Also, Sdb posting video of training quite often

toxic yacht
#

yee

wary falcon
#

subscribe on his page

toxic yacht
#

this is his third

#

on youtube

wary falcon
#

most videos are private

toxic yacht
#

ah

#

didn't know

#

he posts a lot of shit there

#

too bad that I don't speak russian REEEE

wary falcon
#

Sdb said that Canada is their strongest opponent in groups

toxic yacht
#

they're just lucky that they're not in the group with SK, lul

balmy wolf
#

Well thats obvious @wary falcon

toxic yacht
wary falcon
#

Because Canadian players are active pro players

toxic yacht
#

like, sdb is one of the only genji's who can still be carrying his team with mediocre ults, lul

#

his ults are fuckign amazing though

#

also, forsak3n shotcalling again because rubi zen

#

or at least being lucio, I don't understand shit

wary falcon
#

I think France will be favourite on pinnacle

toxic yacht
#

yeah

#

for some reason people believe that SK is gonna beat them, but lol

#

I know that korea is strong and all, but you gotta stay realistic

#

SK is made of 2 seperate teams and a 6th guy who are all practicing for their own tournaments in their own teams with different people

#

every scrim for rogue is world cup practice

balmy wolf
#

Won't stop the fan boys though

toxic yacht
#

like, the only advantage SK has is that they can analyze every game rogue has ever played and take advantage of those

#

also, half the team is LH, who beat rogue in a pretty convincing manner

#

but that's it

#

lul

balmy wolf
#

Rogue just returned to the state after some vacation

#

they probably should feel good now

#

and just wait and practice until their ticket to wherever they need to be

toxic yacht
#

yup

#

they won't have to make time for scrims, they won't have to get used to different teammates and playstyles

#

literally just do what they always do

balmy wolf
#

reading the Winz interview, apparently they won scrims against AF Blue while there

#

too bad KR hotels strike again

toxic yacht
#

yup

wary falcon
#

Rogue were overhyped before Apex S3

clever wagon
#

What's the tldr of the dev update

wary falcon
#

you know results

#

maybe they will disappoint me one more time

balmy wolf
#

Wait people actually think Rogue can beat an LH + LWB superteam?

toxic yacht
#

don't see them disappointing during the WC tbh

#

this isn't a "superteam", it's a bunch of people busy trying to get out of the apex lower bracket

#

in other words, busy with their own shit

balmy wolf
#

Unless Rogue has thought of some sick new strats since being knocked out of apex, I dont see that happening

toxic yacht
#

I don't see rogue losing to them

#

at all

wary falcon
#

But Rogue is a team

rapid oxide
#

they changed some stuff on browser

#

and lobby

wary falcon
#

While Korea is just a mix

rapid oxide
#

like "swap all"

toxic yacht
#

it's literally a team that practices every day

#

and gets better every day

#

vs a mix

#

that is too busy with their own shit

#

like, I get that koreans are currently the strongest in ow

solid spear
#

Rogue absolutely can win

toxic yacht
#

but they're only humans, lul

balmy wolf
#

here's hoping that IMT, C9, TL make good scrimming partners

#

lolz

wary falcon
#

Rogue should win

toxic yacht
#

if rogue doesn't win then lul

balmy wolf
#

Rogue is going to be scrimming from now till the WC, with the exception of Season 1, and SK will scrim after Apex is over

toxic yacht
#

apex s4

#

LW blue and LH are 100% getting reinvited

balmy wolf
#

And even though Rogue has scrimmed for longer they'll still win 😄

#

tbf though, synergy probably will not be a factor in team SK. They know how to work together

#

they being SK

#

right now, on paper SK is good

#

but just stop sucking SK's nuts, plz

toxic yacht
#

lul, I'm gonna remind you of this when rogue wins

balmy wolf
#

k

wary falcon
#

Of course SK looks good on paper

balmy wolf
#

the reason when any of them looks good because of their team behind them, now they are busy practice for APEX

toxic yacht
#

it makes no sense outside of "MUH KOREA" to assume that rogue is gonna lose vs a team that can barely practice

wary falcon
#

Anyways, i think France has 70-80% chances to win

clever portal
#

Thinking Rogue will be relevant after a meta change EleGiggle

balmy wolf
#

the meta only changes after another couple of patches

#

meta in this game changes drastically, but slow

tough agate
#

dive would have to get completely gutted to push rogues style of play out

toxic yacht
#

listen to this man, he knows his shit ☝

balmy wolf
#

i don't see that happening for at least another few months, barring any drastic change for the main tanks tbh

tough agate
#

they've played it enough to know how to make it work, unless it's 100% worthless

toxic yacht
#

ya, it's not like the tank meta that completely relied on ana

#

back then you basically needed to nerf one character and it'd all fall apart

balmy wolf
#

although, any nerf to Tracer/D.va might just be the one that blow it apart.

toxic yacht
#

dive being so strong is the result of a lot of buffs and changes that happened in the past few months

balmy wolf
#

or rather, force teams to modify it

toxic yacht
#

I'm still very much against nerfing tracer

balmy wolf
#

Overwatch is funny in this regard. Very sensitive to balance change, but very slow to change and the meta never really crystalize until like after a few months

#

and even then, Blizzard is balancing based on the plebs

toxic yacht
#

it's no coincidence that the highest horizontal mobility hero in the game with really good burst damage and flanking capabliities is so strong in a meta that's focused on exploding specific targets

tough agate
#

nerfs to DVa will probably just move things back to triple dps

#

which is where rogue shines anyway

toxic yacht
#

you'd probably have to touch winston in some way

#

and I'm not an expert, so I wouldn't know how to change him

balmy wolf
#

personally I think that the way Blizzard is handling balance patches based on all skill caps, gotta be prepare for any more random changes '

#

Hanzo buffs, anyone?

solid spear
#

Probably would have to really mess with Tracer or Winston for dive to be not viable

toxic yacht
#

mostly winston, methinks

solid spear
#

Yeah

toxic yacht
#

I still believe that tracer is fine

#

just very, very strong rn

#

the only questionable thing is pulse bomb since it's basically a free kill

#

and charges so fast

#

but like, if we weren't running 5 squishies on both teams

#

pulse bomb would be less effective

balmy wolf
#

only pros can really harnessed her though

#

plebs? good luck

tough agate
#

running 5 squishies + having to clump some squishies up to counter the dive

#

makes pulse really good

#

oh uh slightly off topic

#

but I think I made the most disturbing crosshair you can make

toxic yacht
toxic yacht
#

wtf

#

lmao

tough agate
#

yeah

toxic yacht
#

kinda reminds me of a grav

tough agate
#

it doesnt pulse like that in game

#

that's just bloom

#

but uh

#

if it did, i don't think I'd be able to play from laughing

toxic yacht
#

btw, I dunno if this is too much info for you, but how'd you end up getting carpe of all people?

tough agate
#

i mean, i'd tell you if I knew the details

toxic yacht
#

ah, management stuff

tough agate
#

they were asking around, and then he was flying out

balmy wolf
#

could have gotten Selly tbh

tough agate
#

that's the extent of my knowledge 😛

balmy wolf
#

since he is more fitting to Selfless' style

#

but Carpe isn't bad either

tough agate
#

I think carpe fits well too

#

considering he yelled spawn camp in our first scrim together

toxic yacht
#

oh

#

atm he seems to be filling dafran's heroes anyway

#

well, I don't think that I ever saw dafran on cree

#

although he did play genji at times

balmy wolf
#

Dafran admitted that his McCree is shit

#

iirc

tough agate
#

dafran wasn't confident in his mccree

#

only ran it when he was tilted to oblivion in scrims

toxic yacht
#

okay, I didn't expect that

clever portal
#

McRee is a different aiming style

toxic yacht
#

well, atm 76 is better anyway and he is super good on him

solid spear
#

McRee

#

REEEEE

clever portal
#

Same reason Taimou doesn't have the same level of aim with Soldier/Tracer

toxic yacht
#

taimou mostly flicks

#

like, it's crazy

#

how much he flicks

balmy wolf
#

sometimes i scored bullshit kills with flicks

#

one time i two flick'd a dead eye McCree

clever portal
#

I "flick" too

#

With luck though, not skill

toxic yacht
#

but yeah, dafran also played mei during one of the last pre-carpe selfless matches I watched

#

and also pharah at some point

#

and looked really good on them

tough agate
#

his pharah is very hot-cold

#

either rolls or gets rolled

toxic yacht
#

I only saw it once, yee

#

not enough to judge

tough agate
#

and his mei dm was good but he wasnt really willing to do set plays with it, beyond stuff like

#

wall off point

toxic yacht
#

ah

#

so you mostly just put him on tracer or 76 and let him kill everything

#

also, the switch from dafran genji to sinatraa genji was also kinda interesting

#

I'm definitely excited to watch you guys play more in the future and stuff, so good luck during contenders later on

clever portal
#

I thought Sinatraa was the og Genji

toxic yacht
#

dafran played genji first iirc

#

illios vs LGE

#

they were down 2-0

#

then dafran went pharah

#

and later genji

#

also, OMM finals obv, but I'd rather not talk about that

tough agate
#

Sin was our genji pre-dafran, we tried swapping them around a bit, mostly to keep consistency between diff comps

#

but dafran had some issues on genji cause of his lowass sens

toxic yacht
#

lol

#

counter strike players

tough agate
#

we really only ran genji on set points anyways, any dafran switch to genji in a normal comp is like 50/50 between tilt switch or called switch

toxic yacht
#

ah, ahh

clever portal
#

Did you guys practise Anubis after the FNRGFE game?

toxic yacht
#

this is all really interesting to hear. trying to be an armchair analyst is hard

clever portal
#

Lol, we probably post a lot of bs

toxic yacht
#

we definitely do, lul

#

a few pros lurk here, so they're probably just shaking their heads while we constantly talk out of our asses

tough agate
#

we've been practicing the whole map pool, but we did watch the vods for that and figure out the big mistakes

clever portal
#

I'll be honest, when I read those posts by LH coach I hadn't even thought of some of those things before

toxic yacht
#

yup

clever portal
#

Like rogues wasteful style

#

But I'm just simple pleb

toxic yacht
#

oh yeah, btw, map pool like this or map banning?

#

which do you prefer?

tough agate
#

i feel like we could have both

#

map pool, but then it's ban-ban-pick-pick-ban-ban-random

#

i forget what tourney did that but I really liked that format

toxic yacht
#

dreamhack maybe?

#

wait, dreamhack didn't have a set pool

tough agate
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it was a tourney we played in, so idts

toxic yacht
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iirc

tough agate
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think it was some tourney on Rivalcade

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might have been enter the arena?

toxic yacht
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okay, I've stopped keeping track of the systems that tournaments use since NGE tbh

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dunno which one it was

clever portal
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Rivalcade

tough agate
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most of the time it's just done in game chat nowadays

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especially since every rivalcade tournament has had an issue with the site as we went to use it

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👀

clever portal
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But most tournaments are full map pool right?

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Atleast with blizzard rules

tough agate
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recent tournaments have been slightly trimmed with map type order

toxic yacht
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iirc map pool where the loser picks the next map apex style?

tough agate
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like one map taken out of each mode