that would jail the girlfriend, he is under age of consent 
#esports-discussion
red anvil
rapid oxide
he typed "ESCA LUL" in chat
balmy wolf
well, now that nV and LH seemingly survive
it would be interesting to see LW Blue vs LH
and nV vs X6
again.
nV vs X6 2: We won't get surprise by attack Junkrat this time
red anvil
If X6 wins over nV again 
wintry matrix
i'd bet on x6 rather than nV
balmy wolf
earlier I called nV to get eliminated by Meta is too fargone in term of strength to gave nV any meaningful offense
X6 probably wont because they are in the upswing
so it is harder to even take a guess
and also, LW BLue vs LH
if LW Blue have Janus
do LH get fuck or not?
red anvil
i want LH ot playoffs
wintry matrix
i dunno, LW Blue is upswing compared to LH, but it still LH
balmy wolf
LH could get eliminated for all I care
maybe that's just the inner Rogue in me speaking 
clever portal
Rogue LUL
At least they can stomp the west I guess
I had high hopes for EU
But EU = NA
balmy wolf
we'll see
right now the influx of KR is really good in term that it spur growth
whoever scrimming IMT/C9 should take as much note as possible
red anvil
Would be nice to know how long whoru is out
red anvil
he played solider
clever portal
Surprised selfless got one as well
clever portal
meta 
balmy wolf
Carpe with Selfless is going to look interesting when this week roll around
blazing parrot
still a better meta than triple tank
red anvil
Sombra is getting boring to watch imo
balmy wolf
hope for my boys 
though
and no, this is not a better meta than triple tank
with all these head twisting camera switches
red anvil
2-2-2 non dive is forever my favorite meta 😦
blazing parrot
for viewers no
balmy wolf
just wait until this meta drag on for like another month
and people will complains about it again
blazing parrot
dive is more fun to play than triple tank
clever portal
Don't worry reaper meta coming
balmy wolf
not for the supports, no.
toxic yacht
I like the meta a lot, my favourite is still the zeny one from last year though
balmy wolf
unless you like to get fucked from 5 different angles.
balmy wolf
Everyone except Mercy is getting the short end of the stick this meta
and Mercy isn't even that viable
toxic yacht
when it came to diversity I beyblade was the best one though
balmy wolf
or rather, OW Open period
warm totem
is the vod anywhere
toxic yacht
the beyblade itself was dumb, but so many heroes were getting picked
clever portal
Ognglobal
toxic yacht
dives, 2-2-2 deathballs and triple tank were all viable too
blazing parrot
@toxic yacht except for tourneys where beyblade was used everywhere
clever portal
I think a Reddit user uploads all games on YouTube as well
toxic yacht
I am talking about tournaments
red anvil
everything gets uploaded there
toxic yacht
people ran everything that I mentioned
warm totem
thankyou
toxic yacht
sure, the beyblade was super common
but you saw everything from triple tank to dives
it was also the meta where we got to see the most hanjo
clever portal
I want my bae 
back
toxic yacht
my favourite part
balmy wolf
that final grav + dragonstrike that put the nail into LH's coffin
toxic yacht
was still where he randomly busted out his pharah
on king's row
especially since pharah without mercy was extremely uncommon back then
and also because pharah was a really uncommon pick at the time
warm totem
hmh what matchup r u talking about
toxic yacht
apac premiere finals
balmy wolf
Rogue vs Lunatic Hai APAC Premier final
toxic yacht
rogue vs lunatic hai
balmy wolf
old Rogue 
toxic yacht
warm totem
yea that :'d
toxic yacht
that was the match that convinced me that tviq is the best dps player in ow
good times :/
warm totem
wasnt he pro in tf2
toxic yacht
he was a sniper in tf2 iirc
dunno what teams he played for though, don't know shit about tf2 and even less about the pro scene
warm totem
😄
balmy wolf
FroyoTech
warm totem
Played tf2 casually when it actually was big
blazing parrot
warm totem
wtf am i typing
warm totem
oh my god
limber pine
That edit though
warm totem
FeelsBadMan
toxic yacht
hecu blizzard
warm totem
maybe i should check that map, but i feel like in masters people are gonna throw in both sides
balmy wolf
Blizzard and their shit decision making strike again
warm totem
didnt you read
balmy wolf
wut @balmy wolf
warm totem
its the servertech
balmy wolf
tviq wasnt on froyotech
warm totem
yoyotech
balmy wolf
basically two letters off of each other
warm totem
two to the one to the one to the three
warm totem
Well i dont know shit about tf2 comp scene always played casually, thou my friend played on top eu team
blazing parrot
National D.Va Association
blazing parrot
its crazy how many waves overwatch is making in south korea
warm totem
😄
warm totem
hows that
warm totem
would like to join that faceit thing but seems like its only for teams
wish there were turneys like in cs that you can just fill in
blazing parrot
you can join open division if youre in masters
rapid oxide
the only tf2 pro i know is b4nny because he's salty about OW being more relevant than TF2 lol
toxic yacht
only tf2 pros I know are ex-tf2 players in ow and b4nny because of salt
Twitter
#NeverForget
rapid oxide
"pls stop play ow so tf2 have a chance to be relevant" 
he's talking like Quake=OW lol
toxic yacht
mfw youtube recommends this to me
balmy wolf
so ex TF2 pros are playing in an onliner that have 50K in prize pot
toxic yacht
wot is dis lmao
toxic yacht
note that legitrc is on faze
he's wot, the selfless coach?
also, micheal3d on hog
evojke on pharah
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
yes
rapid oxide
is twitch prime free?
balmy wolf
LegitRC is OW coach for Selfless
@rapid oxide no
but i have Amazon Prime
to Twitch prime is included
😛
rapid oxide
there's 30 days trial tho
balmy wolf
🤷
rapid oxide
gonna try a smurf amazon account
balmy wolf
doesnt work
https://twitter.com/TheTinyDanny/status/863698185079984133 I will never understand this mindset
Twitter
sturdy granite
@toxic yacht LOL remember when reaper was relevant?
balmy wolf
like, do people have to play with faith by itself?
toxic yacht
hitscan always swapping between reaper and mccree
balmy wolf
money will be a huge attractor of talents
sturdy granite
Beyblade LET IT RIP
toxic yacht
back when soon played reaper
sturdy granite
That Esca Reaper in LH vs Conbox was tragic
sturdy granite
O shit, my B
toxic yacht
don't really care about spoilers tbh
I already know who won, don't care about this match that much
I'd probably have cared if it had been a different match
sturdy granite
Ok, well LH tried to run Talon strat for like 7 minutes and got jack
toxic yacht
lol
sturdy granite
The fact that Conbox didnt win that match kind of pissed me off, that was theirs to lose
clever portal
I've seen that game i think on esl_overwatch
Always wondered what happened to the names that are not around anymore
rapid oxide
@balmy wolf dont mind them, they are salty because TF2 esport is dead
balmy wolf
ikr
also
WizardHyeong used to coach for Splyce
and some other NA team
before LW sign him
so basically NA used to have a KR coach before it was cool
but nobody used it
so lolz
clever portal
Miro hard carry
red anvil
When RJH got better KD ratio then DPS 
sturdy granite
Gonna bet half of Escas deaths were on Anubis attack
ok, not really, but he didnt get any picks at the same time either, so that definitely hurt
clever portal
Anubis attack and as sombra
quiet shell
What do you lads think on Envy vs Meta Athena
clever portal
Taimou was clueless on what to do
Effect carried at points
Meta Athena have improved a lot
Looking forward to them next season
quiet shell
@clever portal That solo ult on Zen tho from Taimou's sombra XD
toxic yacht
hanamura
quiet shell
yup, hanamura
clever portal
Lol saw it now
Worth it, I guess they didn't expect the spawn camp
On attack even one death kills the push
clever portal
And a bit tilting
toxic yacht
very tilting
taimou with the psychological warfare, lul
doing shit like that gets into someone's head
clever portal
He wants other to feel what he feels when he sees DVa everyday
toxic yacht
it's how he feels when he's playing mccree into dva
quiet shell
what was Meta Athena thinking switching out Alpha tho
toxic yacht
they also did this last time vs nV
quiet shell
he's clearly not as good
rapid oxide
people complain already without testing it?
balmy wolf
It was on PTR for like 2 weeks
rapid oxide
cmon, 2 weeks
like if you spent 2 weeks on it
most likely they played 1 h only and then quit
because is what everyone do
solid spear
I mean yeah it was 3 weeks..one time I was on PTR and I saw half of Faze there like they probably play at least a bit
rapid oxide
because people were like "Sombra is OP af"
after Blizzcon
they said "that will completely change the meta"
yeah sure lol
solid spear
yeah the difference is Hog is a character thats been around for over a year
rapid oxide
"RIP DVA huehue" one of most picked tank now
solid spear
and much easier to see if something makes him significantly weaker stronger
than a whole new kit/character
rapid oxide
wanna bet Koreans will still use him and people will go back dicksucking them and emulate them?
solid spear
Hog wasnt being picked much in pro scene even with his former state
toxic yacht
people have said that the patch isn't evil
but of course the only shit you'll be hearing are the ones complaining
toxic yacht
so the pros who say the patch is evil are correct but the ones who find it fine are wrong because people dislike hog
ok
rapid oxide
but before jumping on "RIP Hog huehue fuck u blizz"
i wait
as i said, Pine likes new hog
and you tell me EFFECT too
we'll see how it goes
i remember people being "sombra buff arent enough"
now she's getting picked and people are fine
solid spear
I mean I didnt say who was right or wrong idc either way Im just saying the whole well he played for an hour hes dumb allhail Koreans theyll find a way is dumb
toxic yacht
balmy wolf
too right
toxic yacht
I hope that he doesn't stop being a salty memer if he gets picked up
rapid oxide
not sure someone will pick him
solid spear
yeah even his late Dig days being thrown on Lucio and stuff idk with him after all this time
toxic yacht
I still believe in him 🙏
rapid oxide
they skip mention OWL too lol
balmy wolf
by the way
Roadhog might not be dead
because some people are claiming that the new Roadhog is a different monster than the old
ala the new D.va
still OP but in a different direction
so let's see where this will go
solid spear
we'll see 
rapid oxide
Twitter
solid spear
Jake is great
Ill watch this one
easily the most well spoken of all the pros Ive heard
rapid oxide
wanna bet Quake Champions will be no "NA disappointment" because he will play it?
solid spear
I mean I dont think Slasher knows anything about FGC so yeah...
rapid oxide
i dont
clever portal
What is FGC?
solid spear
fighting game community so fighting games
clever portal
Any 100k+ LANs?
solid spear
fighting games online are like eh...so pretty much any tournament of importance is lan
clever portal
Not discrediting the scene
toxic yacht
fighting games online
solid spear
and like Street Fighter prize pools are bigger than like OW rn so like lol
balmy wolf
rapid oxide
i quote Sojum 
solid spear
and least pro tour
clever portal
Is there an EU and Asia scene though?
solid spear
better viewership too
balmy wolf
more like Japan and the rest
solid spear
and yes
clever portal
Otherwise this is the same as what slasher is saying
rapid oxide
Check what i send to you on PM reign 😛
solid spear
there are lots of European players theyre just inferior (for the most part) to NA/Korea/Japan
but itd be unfair to say they didnt have some solid players
clever portal
I heard NA is good in dota
solid spear
I dont follow that so idk
clever portal
Tbf in OW I would say Na = EU
solid spear
Im just speaking for FGC because I follow many fighting games and Im pretty sure Slasher doesnt know what hes talking about
balmy wolf
@rapid oxide yes, that nV tweet
The only reason EU = NA now is because Blizzard have ignored EU for ages
toxic yacht
we have no real way of measuring EU vs NA atm
balmy wolf
While they havent with NA
clever portal
But you see EU players in NA but no NA players in EU : thinking:
toxic yacht
in takeover EU came out at the top overall, but the sample size was fucking stupid
solid spear
as far the scenes NA and EU arent anywhere near as far apart as people make them out to be if anything they might be better but thats largely because of the vast amount of imported EU players
toxic yacht
the top NA team is also actually an EU team
so yeah, we have absolutely no way of measuring it rn
clever portal
NA seems to seriously lack talent
They have a few stars
But in comparison there are a lot more top level EU players
solid spear
for 2 countries theres honestly quite a bit of talent but its very spread out and the full NA teams are generally weaker
balmy wolf
NA has always lack talents
why? look at how shit NA ladder is
that's no environment to find new talent
unless you want a Mercy OTP for your team
clever portal
IMO even if you group up NA talents they could not beat rogue
balmy wolf
not really
EU have more population and more population in term of participation
that alone means more talents in EU than in NA
EU is plentiful in dps, support and tanks
they just have no tournaments
so they get imported to NA
and then the teams that have EU players
toxic yacht
we all know whom you can thank for that
balmy wolf
surprise surprise
are top tier
From like the Open onwards
if both regions continued the same way
with the same amount of tournies for both
EU would be better
100%
solid spear
They won
short vault
was it close or did they roll them
clever portal
Eh, it was close
Basically carried by effect at points
I think Dorado was easy though
Taimou switched to McRee on attack
limber pine
do pro teams normally have this much turnover?
toxic yacht
roster juggling like this seems to be more of an NA thing
KR messes around with their rosters a ton too, actually
normally EU teams tend to be more static
rapid oxide
something happened
like...
Twitter
look how "cold hearted" is this tweet
not even "good luck" "we will miss you" or shit like that
toxic yacht
he's the one who stabbed logix's eye
limber pine
rapid oxide
"he double-dipped a chip" ?
limber pine
wut
rapid oxide
"The act of a female receiving sexual penetration from both the front and rear at the same time." 
what "double-dipped a chip" means haha
limber pine
you put a chip in dip
you bit it
and re-dip it
that's the literal meaning, not...wherever you got that 😄
rapid oxide
Urban dictionary 
back on topic, there's no reason to kick Finnsi beside he doing some bs
or some internal issue
we can't say it was because of team poor performance
solid spear
._.
rapid oxide
He streamed Nekopara maybe? 
jagged crater
what happened to that girl interviewer from apex s1?
the one that taimou commented on and got him fined
blazing parrot
what does tvique mean
rapid oxide
https://dotesports.com/counter-strike/jasonr-csgo-scene-bubble-15346 not only seagull left a game for lack of earnings compared to pro plays and choose the streamer life
“The CS:GO pro scene is a bubble. Nobody is making money except the leagues. All these organizations are paying salaries to these players and making nothing off of them or making not as much,” he continued. “Salaries will eventually go down, and that’s not because viewership is down, that’s mostly because all these leagues are making high prize pools.”
just a reflection of mine. Franchise route or the LCS route makes more money for both players and org
reason of why OWL was created upon the "Valve system" of majors and 3rd part event
rapid oxide
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/153218938 Destro today was playing instead of Finnsi
clever portal
The CSGO stuff makes sense I guess
I think the system has a lot more hype and is better for the viewers
But franchising is better in general
rapid oxide
DOTA is where attention and money are
jagged crater
ye they def pay way more attention to dota
gaben himself plays a fuckton of dota, rarely mentions csgo
rapid oxide
they are doing them, no worries
until there are retards that bet skin and use steam market + buy shitty hats
and playerbase is somehow stable, why bother?
jagged crater
just different
rapid oxide
DOTA has x3 of the playerbase = potential x3 earnings
jagged crater
the way they allocate developers depends on the developers interests, less so the managers
devs will work on csgo when they feel like it
wintry matrix
i mean, could you blame then? game developing seems like hell
rapid oxide
because looks like CSGO is not the first source of earnings
wintry matrix
and if they are making so much money off steam and whatnot, don't need to make games
clever portal
I guess CSGO is also the sort of game that needs less balancing
No champions/abilities
Just weapon balance
rapid oxide
too bad weapon balance is trash lol
jagged crater
CSGO's problem is not even weapon balance anymore, it's just bug fixes and community support
like bugs that have been well known for years, not fixed
game breaking bugs that can ruin tournaments
rapid oxide
saw yd FALLEN awping a dude
the shot was precise
but it didnt register
and lose the round
chat was "FALLEN got csgo'd"
clever portal
CLARA
rapid oxide
OW meme > CSGO meme tbh
clever portal
I don't play CS, but I saw Fnatic vs Immortals
jagged crater
what OW memes we got
clever portal
Not sure if its common, but the map was glitching
rapid oxide
Dont talk unless you are high elo (plat) FailFish
jagged crater
they're both got good share of memes
always found it funny that "NA" ult became a thing
rapid oxide
NA ULT
clever portal
All they do is spam purple lady
rapid oxide
Flipping Burgers
jagged crater
when EU scene feels kinda worse rigth now
it's not like CSGO where EU is far superior than NA
rapid oxide
C9 LUL 12 BTW 
clever portal
Sombra is the clara of overwatch
jagged crater
tink the NA ult got some influence from NA <> from CS
rapid oxide
because NA is shit on esport
jagged crater
afterall a lot of former CS players are now playin OW
clever portal
Valve more left for dead pls
jagged crater
in CSGO yes
in others, it's just KR dominated
but in some fighting games, I think NA is pretty damn good
rapid oxide
OW is KR dominated -> EU in NA -> Real EU -> NA -> OCE -> Japan
jagged crater
does japan even have an OW scene?
rapid oxide
yes
jagged crater
even china has better teams than japan since they got into the world cup
clever portal
Sunsister/Detonator Gold
rapid oxide
at the bottom of OWC
clever portal
Sunsister 1-26
rapid oxide
there's Yalla, but as polo said, being at the top in a dead region isnt such a big achievement
clever portal
How do you get team emotes?
clever portal
Private?
rapid oxide
you can join, its not that exclusive
supple nymph
🔫
rapid oxide
just pm Slasher
jagged crater
does blizz actually pay attention to the guys at the ow
rapid oxide
no lol
jagged crater
ok good to know
rapid oxide
they took their feedback on consideration
but... their game
they decide what to do
jagged crater
you notice that 4000 post thread on bnet? Not a single dev post
just dva mains whining about nothing
rapid oxide
"omg dva is dead fuck u blizzard" gold players FailFish
sturdy granite
Unfortunately, alot of people who complain aren't exactly climbing the ladder it seems
solid spear
she needs nerfs if anything
rapid oxide
to be honest
jagged crater
not many people complained about hog besides lower ranked players
so blizz listented to them
rapid oxide
Timo said Hanzo is gonna be meta
can't see Hanzo in meta still
yes... he's timo and can troll
but some share his thought
solid spear
I mean the Hog stuff is really for pubs...and Hog will probably still be okayish in pubs if I had to bet
solid spear
well Bastion was nerfed shortly after tbf
rapid oxide
even after the nerf of his ironclad
sturdy granite
I'm mad, because it sounds like the same kids I've been walking over on my way out of ELO Hell, who don't know that charging a hog as reaper is a bad idea.
solid spear
granted he wouldnt replace him anyway
clever portal
Pros don't predict everything right
rapid oxide
that's why i call bullshit on their early complain
and i dont take them in consideration
clever portal
For every hog change many pros make videos/complain
sturdy granite
Bastion honestly didn't need a huge nerf to ironclad, at least on pc
clever portal
Hog has always been fine after changes
rapid oxide
bastion is fine imo
jagged crater
pros tend to overreact too
rapid oxide
i remember grego over react to lucio
rapid oxide
no one know how to balance, nor pros, nor me, nor casuals
clever portal
"This will bring back deathball comps and quad tank"
rapid oxide
^^^^^^^^^^^^
yeah
you see lots of quad tank now /s
that's why i never took pro opinion as right
just try it and fucking wait 1 month before telling a hero is dead or not
jagged crater
people like to say blizz is incompetent when it comes to balancing but they sure as heck know more than most of us
balmy wolf
BTW what's up with Tviq?
rapid oxide
because 1 day of ptr isnt enough
i bet all my money they test 1 h hog on ptr
and just echo the complain
they said the empty barrel make the most noise
sturdy granite
I just don't see why Hog needed any changes, it's not like he all of a sudden changed the game like 35 percent ironclad bastion.
solid spear
I mean Jake was just saying it...seems weird to do these changes now when Hog was seeing a decline anyway
tulip jewel
The people who complain about "Elo Hell" down in the lower ranks are the same people who walk in straight lines toward disadvantageous situations.
sturdy granite
@tulip jewel pretty much, Finally making my dream of reaching Diamond slowly happen (I was previously a console player, so it took me awhile to get used to PC)
I'll admit I'm not that good, but it feels good to be finally moving up
solid spear
@tulip jewel it's my team
jagged crater
i move in a straight line all day
sturdy granite
I move in circles and get dizzy
jagged crater
poor craftsman blames their tools!
clever portal
I guess they're the guys who buy the loot boxes etc
I wonder how different this game would be with no way to pay for skins
solid spear
the same for me at least lol
idk how many people actually buy boxes
like percentage wise Id imagine the majority of people actually dont
balmy wolf
Even if 10 percent buy those lootbox
solid spear
hmmm?
balmy wolf
on what?
clever portal
@tired gazelle what do you mean by who?
balmy wolf
clever portal
:YIKES:
solid spear
whose mans is this
trim trellis
what's your youtube
solid spear
rip
tired gazelle
there it is
solid spear
again
tired gazelle
people want it
clever wagon
Not here
quartz wren
@tired gazelle You can link your channel in #video-content, please don't link it here
supple nymph
if you're going to be somewhere 3 months why not get a short-term rental rather than a hotel?
balmy wolf
because uncertainty
clever portal
I think OGN provides accommodation
supple nymph
right im retarded they could get knocked out early
clever portal
They will probably not invite any Western teams when OWL comes
supple nymph
sucks that 1 tournament takes 3 months
clever portal
And you need a long term lease
I'm guessing it's not that bad when there are other Western teams as well
Like when Fnatic, c9 and misfits were there
But NV is always left alone in Playoffs
supple nymph
do koreans mind white people?
clever portal
I think they're fine with white people
But with the Western teams you're guaranteed people to chill with
And people you already know
I'm sure they know Korean pros
But it's not the same
clever portal
"Is this easy mode?", giggled the enemy D.Va, as Harbleu's hook broke in another bitter reminder of Roadhog's nerfs into the ground. Despite the oppression of the new Dive Metatm, he soldiers on, turning the corner to take a breather...only to be met with a steady stream of voltage from an expertly-aimed Tesla cannon. Winston whispers into his Harbleu's ear..."how disappointing", while doing the twist over his corpse
blazing parrot
what is this fanfic
clever portal
A casuals wet dream
Hog is finally gone
Anyone watch challengers?
This is the is the last week
blazing parrot
@clever portal instead of how disappointing it should have been how embarrassing
clever portal
I'll make sure to change it before posting it in twitch chat
I wonder if #freewhoru is going to take off
blazing parrot
make a copy paasta about it
supple nymph
I don't think I've seen a tourmament with this format
where they repeat the same thing the next weekend
wintry matrix
this is every Overwatch pre-patch speculation
which is fine if people were just speculating, instead of panicking
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf 20 major Blizzards esport events
delicate sparrow
literally had a comp match last patch where some dude was freaking out bc we didn't have a reaper
balmy wolf
how many of them will be OWL?
delicate sparrow
isn't the real question "how many of them will be hearthstone?"
delicate sparrow
oh yeah. forgot that game existed
clever wagon
Ster - Mendo vs retzi - zombs in ranked rn
sleek surge
Ho
knotty crest
you do realise spamming your vid doesnt make people want to watch it?
balmy wolf
You dont have to watch it
knotty crest
You dont have to spam it in every channel either
clever wagon
@edgy remnant
THANKS
@balmy wolf You can read, post whatever your message is in the proper channel
edgy remnant
Juvia's already issued a final warning
balmy wolf
bent?
clever wagon
edgy remnant
No, the warning was issued after he spammed every channel
edgy remnant
if he does it again, he'll be banned
rapid oxide
clever wagon
Any tweet whinings yet?
rapid oxide
floor is lava is normie af but its funny am i disabled?
feral solar
hahaha
balmy wolf
clever wagon
Well, it's his own fault
feral solar
hook me up with an iv for that thing reign you must know people 😉
rapid oxide
you have to DM slasher
clever wagon
But how do you interact with a pineapple
clever wagon
Someone's having a jumpstart
feral solar
what is the server called again? idk what to say in the message
rapid oxide
Hello Slasher, is it possible to have an invite to The O.W discord? Thank you
is what i wrote to him lol
feral solar
👍
rapid oxide
you miss nothing important tbh
if you are a scrub
like us
aka, not a pro player, caster n shit
the only fun part is the starboard, that's it
clever wagon
I don't see why I should go the extra mile when the spiciest memes will always safely and successfully get out of that Discord to see the world
By the hands of one scrub or another
Like what happened up there a few minutes ago
rapid oxide
i think Phaz will become the NA Art1er
clever wagon
Context?
rapid oxide
Both benched, both doing memes
clever wagon
FeelsBadMan
feral solar
vestal mortar
😭
balmy wolf
With them trialing linkzr and kind of looking on the up and up
this is a little surprising
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
feral solar
yeh it sucks
short vault
how old is sinatraa
feral solar
17 i think
crisp lynx
NiP 😫
jovial eagle
the fuck?
why?
oh
uncertainties
i was afraid of that
considering the game changes so much and the whole fiend that is esports division in blizzard
toxic yacht
NiP
inb4 triple tank becomes meta again after this and NiP becomes the #1 team in OW
crisp lynx
NiP, Cyclowns, Who's next?
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
How funny it would be if ex NIP then qualified for season 1 and went on to have a good record?
pretty funny
very unlikely though
rapid oxide
well... their csgo team is going shit and they want to enter LoL
OW wasn't succesful at all tbh
balmy wolf
And also, more props to :liquid: for not dropping their team lol
Their ow team was successful for a few months
and was pretty good before that
rapid oxide
TL DR We lost Friberg so now we need the money to buy a new player for our other failing team. /s
balmy wolf
Ex NIP can probably qualify for season 1 tbh
They have good chance
And has looked better
Probably need some NiP Magic though
I dont really see them doing better than SNG and Vivi's in the second leg
Im still confused about GO though
They looked really strong in quals
and then bombed in groups?
They've also done pretty well vs vivis and sng in the past
I mean we shrugged at them vs GO and they 4-0 them so anything can happen
Well I was predicting GO top of the group after quals
and they just bombed
NiP did look better vs GO regardless of them playing terribly or not
But I dont think its enough
We'll have to see
Please let ex NIP and TL qualify for season 1, OW God
If you are there
balmy wolf
Not yet.....
rapid oxide
NiP want to enter LoL and have to rebuild CSGO team
also add the lack of EU tournament
clever wagon
The scene has not evolved as expected with viewership being below expectations and Blizzard is yet to announce more details surrounding their upcoming Overwatch League.
Time and time again
rapid oxide
their lack of results
clever wagon
Because the huge lack of a promised scene until recently
rapid oxide
they strugled winning contenders matches
where they supposed to go past easly
they almost lost against shit tier team
balmy wolf
Group A is a really tough group
Liquid could make it through
I believe
But 2nd place is hotly contested
They are in good hand at nVidia HQ with Hulk
So yeah
clever portal
NiP 
rapid oxide
atleast SG-1 has a good logo
It is time for us to fully focus our resources on bringing the CS:GO team back to glory, while establishing ourselves within the League of Legends scene with a long term presence in a more stable environment.
clever portal
I think the 4-0 by 
sealed it
clever portal
Why are there so many weebs on discord?
rapid oxide
You are a little bit late Touko
toxic yacht
Daily reminder that we were pulling in 100k+ views back in September
Blizzard has no one but themselves to blame for the pathetic viewership
clever portal
I think there's two ways of looking at it
Either the announcement of OWL killed tournaments
Or blizzard realized tournaments were dying after 2016 and made OWL to save the scene
balmy wolf
When you get the Prime trial, does Twitch start taking your money automatically after it ends?
toxic yacht
Announcement of the OWL killed the game's momentum
clever wagon
Blizz announced OWL well within 2016
balmy wolf
Also the OW hype has died down
clever wagon
Fuck ton of onlines and several LANs were still running up until Contenders was announced
toxic yacht
When Blizz suddenly announces this massive, gamechanging thing but gives no precise dates and details
balmy wolf
It's been out for a year now
toxic yacht
It's only natural that tournament organizers would be hesitant to actually make tournaments happen and pull out
clever wagon
It's obvious this is all just them fucking things up and these endemic eSports orgs have become collateral damage due to no clear direction of the scene
toxic yacht
Blizz apparently also turned down a bunch of tournaments, which isn't particularly helpful
clever wagon
Want a way to look at it? Here's one: I think orgs with big names like NiP and others could've been just as easy a boost if Blizz was supporting the existing third party tournaments
clever portal
Yeah don't understand the tournament stuff
Apparently some LAN were rejected because of 'other tournaments'
But the only tournaments that happened in those time periods were online
toxic yacht
Also, OWL initially being in the US + no details killed the EU scene
toxic yacht
Note that the "fuck ton of tournaments" were NA and KR only
They mentioned it at blizzcon iirc
clever wagon
Imagine big orgs from CSGO like G2, SK etc entering Overwatch
clever wagon
At one point some of them were considering OW I think
toxic yacht
EU orgs have no interest in ow atm iirc
clever wagon
@clever portal because there's not enough competition LUL
toxic yacht
Which would explain why ex-cyclone stayed orgless until they disbanded
clever wagon
Until Contenders where more people finally could join the pro scene, but it's pretty much already too late
clever portal
TBH I think if blizzard released sales
IMO it's obvious NA has higher sales
I don't think the game even has that much interest in EU
toxic yacht
Eh
rapid oxide
that's plain wrong assuming no org is interested in ow
toxic yacht
It's more of marketing in NA being much easier
toxic yacht
You don't have to deal with a bunch of different countries with different languages etc
rapid oxide
but makes no sense join now
reason of why they are not sign no one
what if they contact SK, Optic, G2 n shit
and they will take en masse every team
"en masse" = all
clever wagon
Tbh if Blizz set up something like Contenders way earlier it would've been easier to show player potential, and quicker
rapid oxide
keep in mind that OW still have more endemic orgs than dota
clever wagon
Gates to becoming pro would've been opened much sooner
More players would've had access and tried to go pro sooner
clever portal
IMO start with KR
clever wagon
I have to wonder why they took their time with something like Contenders
clever portal
Bring in skt/samsung
clever wagon
Contenders and Open Division
clever portal
And Western orgs would get more interested
rapid oxide
its not how it works arny
clever wagon
Contenders and Open Division, again, would've been a great way to open the gates for people to go pro
rapid oxide
wait next year, if not 2019 for kespa
clever wagon
Yet it took them a year to do it, when numerous orgs have eventually dropped their rosters
clever portal
Fair enough
Yeah, contenders should have been out in January if they knew there were no tournaments
rapid oxide
Stay positive, everything is gonna be alright 
clever wagon
🔫
clever portal
World cup is coming 
toxic yacht
you know what's kinda funny
zaprey used to be misfits' tracer player
while they kept soon on cree/reaper
clever wagon
I thought you're gonna say we're all funny
toxic yacht
lol
they only figured out taht he was... you know, a godlike tracer after he left
but well, his McCree is excellent, so they probably valued his Cree over his tracer since Zaprey is a good tracker anyway
toxic yacht
xRetzi scrimming with NRG 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=KuJ4_pMSKls
xRetzi and Phaz
dat tracking doe 
clever portal
TFW every org is dropping their roster other than the one that should have done it a long time ago FeelsBadMan
valid ridge
Interesting research project on esports
https://fr.surveymonkey.com/r/EsportsANG
limber pine
RiP NiP
toxic yacht
remeber when misfits pulled a c9 before it became cool and was called a c9?
https://youtu.be/RnH5AaVAkfc?t=1h44m17s
clever portal
Lol, that game
You can tell how much team skill/comms have changed
If reapers walked around like that they would be getting farmed by Tracers/Soldiers
rapid oxide
http://i.imgur.com/H6urOIw.png is now Dafran an offense?
toxic yacht
wat
solid spear
._.
toxic yacht
well, to give the teams credit
that was before lucio's speedboost nerf
also, his AoE was higher back then
76 was also garbage, so the only one who would fuck him up would be a mccree
tracer wasn't bad, just not amazing, and running mei + reaper was so much more effective
zarya was also relatively common back then, so teams would just bubble reaper + speedboost him and watch him farm ult
clever portal
Taking YouTube comments seriously 
I think Dva was bad back then as well
I think Dva was bad back then as well
I think Dva was bad back then as well
clever portal
Seems like some people want to bring that back
clever portal
Can someone explain why Orisa needs to slow down while shooting?
She has no mobility anyway
Atleast let her move full speed
solid spear
I think it's because of the high ammo count
At least thats why D.Va and Hanzo have it
Granted theyre unlimited ammo
wintry matrix
isn't Dva because upclose she has tons of damage?
rapid oxide
Twitter
solid spear
Pretty sure because of unlimited ammo and because if she didnt slow doen she could just continuously chase you down while holding M1 her damage isnt insane
clever portal
Wow, Alicus is savage
wintry matrix
Alicus sometimes seems like an intelligent and wealthy xqc
balmy wolf
funnily enough
there was one time i asked for Alicus in The O.W
and later on this guy mistakenly pm'd me "haha"
which I correctly assumed that he was pming his friend to laugh at me for asking for Alicus
he noted that Alicus is "a horrible manager"
months later he is now a meme
clever portal
There's a difference between xQc and Alicus
Alicus posts 🔥
xQc posts 'banter'
Aka retarded shit in the hopes of starting some memes
wintry matrix
that's why i said it would be him, if xqc was smart
balmy wolf
xQC and smart doesn't go together well
here's hoping IMT will just rekt them again this weekend
balmy wolf
they are kind of overhyped after winning that
meanwhile nobody forget their defeat against Rogue
wintry matrix
with how the NA scene is unstable i woudn't rule out anything
balmy wolf
YIKES is cut from the same cloth as CLG, or RNG
dependent on Pharmercy
and only above average at best in other comp
clever portal
TBH that one melee win was hype
balmy wolf
vs a Selfless whose weakness has always been Pharmercy?
they got better stylistic match up
clever portal
Nothing made me happier than seeing Sinatraa and Dafran lose
Did you see xQc in twitch chat
clever wagon
xqc
smart
Pick one
clever portal
Saying he wouldn't accept poor orgs like TSM
wintry matrix
that's actually smart of him, i mean, would you accept TSM?
clever portal
At this point any org is good lul
clever wagon
Still weirded out how Sinatraa and Dafran are much worse than xqc to some people at this point
balmy wolf
YIKES is a good pick up but there's a reason they has been tier 3 for like ages
only came to prominent after their performance with Silkthread
the meta also favored them somewhat
but when the meta shift
that's where the tower of cards will collapse
wintry matrix
i don't think that exclusive to them
i wonder how Rogue would do if their style wasn't so viable
balmy wolf
Rogue i don't think will do too badly
since they have show that they can run 2-2-2 competently
and their style is not dependent on meta as much as being able to outbrawl other team
meanwhile YIKES very much play around rez and Gingerpop's ability to survive
which is fine and all until IMT played around it
and Rogue just straight up brawl with them
Pharmercy teams need range and space to operate. IMT played around rez and not giving any space for YIKES to get their Pharmercy to work, while Rogue just straight up going to the throat and suffocate them with pressure
Both IMT and Rogue also have a carry support in Kariv/Unkoe, which makes it infinitely better too
rapid oxide
i wont call Alicus a bad manager
since its the reason of why Misfits is actually relevant as org
wintry matrix
was he involved in the 3-way trade?
rapid oxide
i think he left way before misfits
iirc he was managing lol team, not ow one
but im not sure about that
16/2/2017 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spkjqj
5/12/2016 the 3 way trade
thick cosmos
Rip nip
toxic yacht
naisu
limber pine
was I right?
vestal mortar
\o/
toxic yacht
what did you say, lul?