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picked up hitscan since NWA reformed
Very underwhelming
Got too used to ez lucio
doesnt know how to hitscan properly anymore
Chipsa, Kyb and Kruise
all genji mains
reckon group h is the only one without a clear favourite
yeah g and f are a tossup of canada/russia and taipei/usa to come 1st-2nd
you dont think france are favourites over denmark and thailand?
or Team USA getting rekt by Chinese Taipei and Brazil 
or do you mean denmark-thailand are even
G is the US "superteam" vs BGH, FW and Blank
France are clear favorite, so it is a race to the second spot
The US will be crushed imo
is brazil all bgh?
nz isnt full blank?
lol
NZ is cantus
which is another team but weak
yeah its just BGH and FW then
BGH, FW, and Masterminds
Im betting on FW taking 1st
TIL Cantus is on Mastermind
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Masterminds_GC only some minor changes
isnt slasher full commited to QC now?
no clue
the better he rush to QC, the better the scene will be
he is blacklisted by Blizz anyway
He's from Romania
Not on the team
Didn't want to go
yeah
Would have been nice to see shadder and meza carry them
too bad 
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im actually really salty nevix got left out >:(((
And nesh is a really good offtank
they could get Mendokusaii for Manneten tbh
but I guess Mendo wants to stream more
and Swedish scene hate Mendo
one way or another lolz
they could get nevix for manneten
why they hate mendo?
Doesnt matter if he's been playing dps lately
He's still the better off tank
The last time I saw nevix play something that wasnt dps or support was months and months ago
fair enough
the same reason that why Mendo have been team jumping for all of his career
left C9 for trying to pull a coup, not disclipine, etc etc
lol
And here goes a polemic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6i94wj/brazilian_pro_player_doing_racist_stuff_in_game/
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"I hope that with Reddit justice is done" 
nothing reddit loves more than a good witchhunt
That could be another person tbh
inb4 deleted

Is he still in your recent players? @idle cove
This print was taken by a friend of mine, he knows the battletag of Liko and says that he was himself, without harming anyone.
did he take screenshots
honestly, this will just kind of drop off
because a. no people except Blizzard Brazil will handle it
b. potential for witchhunt
c. good luck catching him again
The Brazilian Overwatch World Cup team does not have my support. Liko is a toxic and racist player who was punished by Blizzard itself.
Look it, was talking about him.
The Finland Overwatch World Cup team does not have my support. Taimou is a toxic and racist player who was punished by Blizzard itself.
can't see the difference
that is not a proof
i doubt someone with 112 followers can make wave and make Blizzard doing a Dafran
bring solid proof and people will start taking you seriously
i remember one dude, tails, got screenshot while racist talk
they find it the screenshot being faked
I dont know, i've played with liko and he was so racist about it a lot of times, but will be my word against a most popular known player, it will be as im hating him.
But is the same as happend with yoda on LOL scenario
still can't see the proof
It look like according to overbuff that there is a chance that it is not the pro but rather the person that has 3500 SR https://www.overbuff.com/search?q=liko and it looks like to be a 4000SR game according to this profile https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/debout-1108
ok, look that, South America Servers mix from 3.100 ~ 4.xxx SR.
Competitive
Yesterday at 4:20 AM
also Overbuff doesn't store everyone profile
also could be lowercase L iko
there are players that call themself llIIIllllIII
that's a mix of lowercase L and uppercase i
All I know is that he has some smurfs too, which he plays, because the ranks of South America are long, so he does not always have the main account so he does not fall for what they call "C4" Or bomb player, who is there to harm the entire team.
maybe you are right and he was the pro player but without solid proof, you can easly witch hunt someone that did nothing wrong
Being racist one time is nothing wrong? ๐ค
you misunderstood
Why you dont try to being racist with a black person? LUL
someone could call Vace and being racist
My point is: he made a mistake, he dont deserve being on Brazilian team, like yoda was punished.
but that's not me
The proof was there with that screenshot.
That isnt proof though
I get that you dont speak perfect english but what we're telling you is, you don't know it was him
Yup, I'll respond judicially if someone fakes, so I know this because there have already been cases in Brazil of people doing fake of others, and talking a lot of bullshit, I graduated in law in college and I know what I'm talking about
You are going off the word of someone else
Who didnt provide any proof besides the screenshot
Get me some screenshots of that guy's account
and i will believe you
Ok doesnt matter it, he still being a racist for me, and this witch hunt is over.
For sure.
Well yeah of course it doesn't matter
You have no proof
You literally started a witch hunt off a screenshot
Polo called me an autistic cunt, let's witchhunt him 
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huh, why is nana listed on the Korean team?
probably it's his first battletag or some shit
because its a better name
nanohana is the better name anyway

fl0w3r sounds like shit
he has so many accounts
his coach was correct
Thats true i guess
sounds so weebish
^ x2
That's one way too confuse though 
id love to hear casters mispronounce it lol
and shift+alt shortcut
Weebsih or not, better than xXxFl0w3rxXx
Nanohana is best
Nanohana > all
that was a scatching burn
he later made allusion to flipping burgers as well
Jamerson tried so hard to hold it in
@red anvil i love flower
I love jkap!
Still mad with Blizzard for not inviting Uber tho
envyus vs meta athena rematch: predictions?
envyus lose
@balmy wolf yep
Prob envy is gonna win but they will lose the next imo
what's up with these witchhunt thread keep poppin' up
who is nanawoakari
Fl0wer
did he change his name again?
yeah
Cantus is a god tbh
Cantus is a god tbh
Cantus is a god tbh
Cantus is a god tbh
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Holy shit you filthy delusional weeb
(jk if I can find Megumi stuff I'd do that too)
weeb
stfu
fuck man, esports
eSports best gi-- wait
yall are such fucking weebs Jesus...
stfu
archetypical blonde
tsundere
SaeKano blonde pretty much got kicked to the side lul
..........
Is anime an eSport? 
I mean theres weeb fighting games
inb4 c9 anime
Touhou fighting game eSports coming soon 2075
"My eSports team that I waited to play in so long can't be full of girls!"
like all those sports animes
i bet theres going to be an anime depicting a woman's struggle in esports
cause theres already anime about that for sports
it's about this generic ass dojima-kun dude
who gets into the esports club
but it turns out
that it's full of girls
@blazing parrot Keijo!!!!!!!! ?
lul

theres a few of those seija
We need a weeb series featuring PUBG. 3 girls, 1 guy. Going for world #1 squad
Masterpiece
we just need more weeb stuff in general ๐๐พ

MAKE MORE


ESPORTS
you like nisekoi
that's reason enough to be guilty
tbh
brb googling onodera pics
Im allowed to love one trash anime pls
nisekoi in ow esports team
implying all anime except that one isn't trash
why not look up a top 3 girl
who would be shotcaller


we are about to get muted

WHOAAA
FUCK I shoulda screenshot it

Mods soon
SpriteGuy rn
Honorรฉ de reprรฉsenter la France pour la World Cup!
Let's fucking do this! #avecle6
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i like it too because it's one more opportunity to see Rogue getting stomped by Koreans 
team korea was also almost all lunatic hai wasn't it for last year
only three, the same as last year (it was only after that WC that Zunba and another guy on the team joined LH i think)
wut
2016 SK was half of LH including EscA, Ryujehong and Miro
And also Zunba, who joined 3 ish months after the WC
K70 clean up completeeee
stylosa playing would be like muselk playing
Gay^^^
noob^^^
What the fuck https://clips.twitch.tv/GrossPiercingPigWTRuck
Also that tracer teabaging
Tracer players are insane
yes but there are insane people even by insane people ๐
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@raven gate #lf-players-na
my bad didnt see it lol
I still find it funny how some people just laugh at xQc yet players like Sinatraa who are basically really quiet now (barely ever act like attention whores whining on their social media) are apparently the worst, most toxic human beings to ever exist
I'm going to Poland to watch the World Cup! 
@clever wagon Sinatraa's stuff is more underground, so to speak
his baby raging is more subtle
He's still 17 and doesn't look as much as an idiot because he knows better to shut up
Or at least keep his BabyRage out of the wide public view
Unlike that other guy who goes on to Twitter and Twitch to whine and meme along with bronze chat after getting bodied by "Korean team"
He also said he would try to support the Overwatch eSports scene
he is already i think
just by playing and streaming
exposes lesser known pro players
You're saying it like his stream is the only way teams and Blizzard themselves would find these "lesser known" pro players
am i?
im saying him streaming would expose people who only watches him to other pro players
.. Huh
Ok then, I mistook that
How does he do that when Contenders is live though
i dunno
Where basically almost all pros are not in ranked
does that mean seagull's team in contenders died out early?
...
His meme stream team was already out like a couple weeks ago before the current group phase
didn't he formed a team with a few others just to see how far they'd get?
oh group phase
didn't know there's group phase
QUALIFIER PHASE
NOT EVEN GROUP PHASE
and also
"he is already i think
just by playing and streaming
exposes lesser known pro players"
this does not works like that
didn't know there's group phase```
What we had last night and this weekend ***is*** group phase
i'm talking about when Seagull's team get eliminated
I just missed to say it was qualifiers, but I still meant that they were out before Contenders entered group phase
Yeah, I was answering him further @balmy wolf
gotcha
im saying him streaming would expose people who only watches him to other pro players
that doesnt help at all
because seagull fanobys or w/e doesnt give a shit if they are pro players or just streamers
Unless he specifically interacts or even just point them out
There's no way Twatch chat would actively look on their own
there's no way casual would see contenders if seagull is streaming
sure promote other pro
but not during contenders
I find it mind boggling that there are still people that is supposedly invested in OW eSports in any degree that think anything Seagull does actually help the scene that much
Why do you think his stream last night when Contenders was live had only a couple thousand less viewers than Contenders'
Hm
meanwhile the Contenders stream shot up to like 20K
so yes, the fucking bastard does siphoned viewers
Lol
I only saw him live through the Twitch Live chrome extension
And that was when Contenders had less than 20k
Like 18k or something, and I saw him had 15-16k, app said he was streaming Overwatch
Didn't see him after that
you are right, he's helping so much driving potential casuals away from contenders, thank you so much seagull /s
i mean... he's free to do w/e he want honestly
but sound an hypocrite being "i want to help esport" and he does that
atleast tell you dont give a fuck anymore and i'll be ok with it
just saying, I got into esports thanks to gull... ๐
and there are defininitely a ton of other people like me
https://twitter.com/Tephus/status/877022506061766656 no ID_....but Shadder and Fury with Hulk spectating 
After a great first half to the group stage, the team is practicing hard for next Sunday at @NVIDIAGeForce https://t.co/28gkStflpb
but well, back then he actually used to play
and I wanted to see him in a tournement since I loved his other shit so much
ended up watching more and more and now I'm here
Anecdotal, which is the point
looks like thy're gonna be subbing shadder out
and stuff
it's in line with what sopti said
heking hek
those computers though
GTX 1080 Ti and shit
Complexity also boot camped here
but given that TL is actually staying until the end of this weekend ๐ฐ
TL can actually finish first in group A 
Get Hyped for APEX S3 Quarterfinals, Losers match
Starting with @TeamEnVyUs VS @TheMetaGaming in 30 minutes!
https://t.co/OwPhXI8mHU
Time to watch my boy Taimou go home
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LOL wheres taimous highlights xdd
WOOOOOAAAHH
Crowd was quite mild for taimou
he is so good
nV looking strong
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ford is killing every team
teamkiller
LOL
they still won the teamfight lol
omg
Micke on torb wtf
Ugh fuck
EFFECT IS SO GOOD
T H R O T T L E D
mickie 
saya so greedy
Oh my god
KR winston > KR tracer
smh
a l p h a m a l e
TimoCree?
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LOL
Either he actually put up DM right on time or he already had it up from before and Sayaplayer just stupidly reckless
i think it was reaction
Both couldn't defend
yep
So many times the first attack is easy then second is full hold
at lease in my scrub games
imo,roadhog here was a huge mistake
"double"
well played
wow, nice third person blade so that we can see all of the skill involved
I also loved how they instantly dove taimou
he's such a god ๐
sombra in this map ๐บ
they probably want harry on 76 but can't run the taimou on hog thing or something
it's close
currently 0-1 for nV
naisu
looking good so far
toolate
nV getting a taste of their own medicine
just one team wipe
got it
LETSGO TIMO
yep!
ty
eeh 2cp...
LUL
SO EZ
META THROWING
soldier ๐ฎ
alpha throwing
It's not that late casters... they still have more than 2.5 minutes
lmao nus
ya, MA kinda fucked up
nV deliberately baited EMP
without using soundbarrier
but they're almost at 100 again
Pushing with sound barrier?
BM too stronk
why though
imagine if it didnt work
primal waste
BM, tilt, proving he can play Sombrero better than MA... caster said
na jump lul
Why don't they keep Sombra I wonder
They can try abuse bullshit EMP and make Meta taste their own medicine
But idk
nanoyatta
now that's something that I haven't seen
sombra isn't that good on the second point
they likely didn't feel comfortable enough to run it on this point
I mean I was thinking the medpacks are too far apart
But MA worked it anyway
So idk
mickie just cucked saya so hard
heking dva
reeeeeeee
MA throwing
well, this isn't a throw
LOOKING GOOD
jeeez
OOOOOOOOOOO
HIOsadfsd
fucking effect
FUCK YOU MA HJAHAHAHAsklamdalskd
BEAUTIFUL TRACKING
PENTA
BEST TRACER
effect holy shit
He's gonna make you regret dropping him MA
haha
HOLY SHIT
He is on fire
hahaha
let's gooo envy
effect*
EFFECT
EFFECT

Effect just went off
is this bo5 ??
YOU'LL REGRET LETTING HIM GO MA
Why seagull isn't streaming btw?
LET'S GO NV
Effect giving them da KR dick
PLAYER SWAP
He's still too sleepy to stream @rapid oxide
LOL WHAT
I was sarcastic
Are they swapping
There are a lot of views to steal from OGN
wut
according to ster blizz wants to stop mercy from ulting in spawn ๐
https://clips.twitch.tv/RelatedPunchyFalconDuDudu
Towards Blizzard: because that's just 1 out of other problems Mercy has
Like me 
what is this
what the fuck is goingo n
headphones
i hear acreaming asians
lul
Changsik is nuts
LOL
๐ BabyRage ENVYUS ๐ BabyRage IT'S META ATHENA ๐ BabyRage CAN WE HAVE EFFECT BACK ๐ BabyRage
Holy shit that bionade was close
Lol
Cmon Sayaplayer you ain't Effect
...taimou?
๐ BabyRage HELLO BLIZZ ๐ BabyRage IT'S SAYAPLAYER ๐ BabyRage I CAN'T STICK BOMBS LIKE EFFECT DOES ๐ BabyRage
lmao effect
lmao
ambitious helix from taimou
CHIPS
TimoCree here we go
happy fatmou lmao
They're all safe but barely give any suppressing fire wut
I do not understand why these teams keep picking Dorado vs nV
Effect just casually going to sniper positions
I'm pretty sure Dorado is like the most played map I've seen this season
out of all the matches i've seen
C9 LUL
YEEEEE BOI
ffs these teams keep picking dorado vs envyus
gg
I feel like it's whenever they know that they will lose
and just want to end it fast
did nv wonnered yet
It's possible at this point
yep
yes
Timo playing an excellent anti flanker McCree in dive meta PogChamp
Taimou 
he's channelling all of the fire from his burnout
but yeah, taimou hasn't really been performing like he used to last year and during apex s1 
To be the actual timo
Taimou looked depressed the whole game
hope that he gets better
You can really see it
yup
Saw it
looked unhappy the entire time
I mean if he's running on fumes, going into a break with a bang isn't so bad
Hopefully x6 doesn't run attk junk aganist ENVY again lol
Case in point the solo Nus EMP
They wont to the same strat
That was a complete BM
Feels sad for athena btw
"Fuck you, I can Sombrero better"
yah, feelsbad for athena
They have talented player
athena and runaway
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ughh can't be fucked to watch this game
The way NV played, the win was pretty deserved
I'm skipping conbox vs lh lul
Metter Athener's EMP abuse in 2nd point Hanamura was pretty triggering, so I'm happy with NV
The solo Nus EMP by Timo and winning 2nd point defense without Sombra were great icing on the cake
CB 3-0 LH 
ez
they play without whoru this time too?
:widowlol:
aren't dominating tbh
what did envy - MA end at?
3 - 1 
ty
esca throwing 
why am i getting the feel that LH is just playing
Oh look, they draw on Anubis 
xd
BO1 Koth 
The support are carrying hard the DPS
RJH with soldier is way better than esca
And tobi is clutch kills
Honestly Lunatic Hai doesn't deserve to win this match tbh
Escas been playing well
As always esca turn godlike at the end 
just tuning in did lunatic hai win
"Audio issue" 
nooo he's cryinggg
Who?
someone at BOX
They thought they had a chance after hollywood and anubis defense 
he was so sad ๐ญ
:cry:
did RJH play 76
lmao
It's a fact
ana mains are weird
Not even close to gale lmao
Not any weirder than Mercy one tricks
lol xd
Gale is a pubber, RJH is a pro
You say that but you won't fight Gale at LAN
I just can't find it in my sane mind what kind of person would spend 40 bucks on a fucking first person shooter to play a single hero that don't need aim
there is so many
Winston and Sym doe
Winston, Sym and Mercy
eksdee
By single hero I meant Mercy only
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Gale. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
If they still play Winston or whatever it's still more than 1 hero in the game
The positioning
Hes busy respecting womens
But they're not even that invested in Mercy
Wut 
Sure gale earns great cash, and he is no doubt an insane Ana player, i just dont see why you would make stupid arugments like that
Invested as in learning her to that kind of depth, let alone putting it into play
Lol what? Who's making stupid arguments about Gale?
(Hint: I have some people blocked)
We were talking "shit" about him
...
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Gale. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
?
what were we `
yes
i got baited 
Smh

mendoBeef
Have there been confirmation about what is going on with whoru btw?
is he ill or are they just practicing alternative non gengu comps?
Not sure
Don't talk here unless you are high elo (Gold) 
lol
Oh right 
Pls you should be at least be over 500 sr
Im screwed either way
Unranked=pro
Doing placements and being placed in 100 SR is already high elo
TIL I was a pro in S4
Uber choice behind the ๐ฆ๐บ (If you care) http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spvfkp he's talking about Custa and the reason of why they didnt pick him
Good decision 
Blank have done well in OPC
Not the best team there, but the competition has probably put them on another level compared to AU
it was so nice to see McCree over the weekend at OWC
even if it was just for a couple of maps
LA
?
@rapid oxide yes I'll be sure to take all the photos. My dream would be a photo with team S.Korea ๐
hug jehong for me 
"an official from Lunatic Hai explained to the fans that WhoRU violated one of the team rules in Lunatic Hai, so he was forced to be separated from the matches and behave for a certain period."
what team rule
that's the interesting part
dabanned?
probably they won't state it to avoid Lee and Dean 2.0
"Koreans are so strict to actually hurt their own shot at APEX when they could have just let Whoru off and hidden the whole incident." this guy nailed it
and punish him later, when apex will end
or reduce is pay
w/e
could be also that if it get words out the Inven mobs will kill LH
basically the equivalent of reddit mobs but even more rabid
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
i understand the reason behind not telling the reason
they obviously felt he needed to be punished enough to throw away apex like that
but honestly no one know what he did
they could hide it
its not like Lee and Dean that had fans proof n shit
afaik no one know, even koreans, the reason of why Whoru isnt playing
otherwise ppl will start dramaing
theyve already started
Lunatic Hai is extremely dermant on obidience
but awswome that we finally learned why whoru wasent currently playing
whats dermant?
Whoru gonna slice bread for burgers while dafran are flipping them 
hes going to be back lol
hes not dropped from his team yet
and he can still play comp and take out pharmercys in the air
That was a glorious weather phenomenon
Korean teams value discipline and teammates more than short-term tourney results they seem like they're willing to risk dropping out of QFs to let WhoRU stay in the long term.
Western wouldnt give a fuck
^
about discipline
I wish that they were open about it
and yeah most western teams are like care, their our star player, we need them
Sad af.
Prime example being Taimou
Selfless before Blizzard action didnt do shit
Taimou and Dafran yeah
because Dafran carry
why punish someone that literally carry us?
I think people are exaggerating Whoru's skill
If only nV had a 7th dps player that could sub for Taimou in situations like that or his burnout
I agree they were better with him
he's better than esca and gido for sure
But they would not suddenly 3-0 everyone, they've been looking weak all season
imo he's consistent
whoru creates spaces for esca, without him esca is bad :/
esca is not a bad player, his hitscan is nuts
but he's incosistent
his main problem
he is not a bad player but incsonsistency dont work in tourmenents
because when he have momentum (generally at the end) is a beast
one of the best mei in pro play
there's always posts about Tracer and Sombra aren't his preferred heroes
sometimes he's like me lmao
Think of it this way
gido tracer is meh tbh
He needs to Mei again
Mei in this meta? lol
They have slim chances of winning this season anyway
We need Mei back in the meta
Going hard on Whoru now might make him a very good team player in the long term
her icycle are so damn satisfy to land
This is just a season, there will be many more
He is only 15 so indeed
The news itself can stay up, but I've locked this post. We've already had to remove several comments.
Completely baseless speculation on what a player could have done, to be blunt, just ramp up drama without offering anything of any value. When there's actual details, those can be posted. Until then, stop the random guessing.
so be careful what you wish for
Not very different from graivtons everywhere
they wont disband imo
im more scared about
and 
KD is a big org so they could keep them and Runaway have lots of fans despite them losing in group stage
conbox from challenger to group stage 2 is not bad
Rinho and BK disbanded mostly because they never went past first group stage
RunAway will probably disband
KDU Uncia should be fine
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Uncia will stay together so Kongdoo and pick and choose who they want on Panthera
Uncia could get some free agents
:MercyWut:
"KDU Uncia should be fine"
Ah lol, my bad
lul
Yeah Runaway needs org now
who's gonna take a team that didnt went past group stage?
they didnt get one during finals
imagine now...
If they don't get one it's over
i've mixed feelings about it
Next apex season will be insane
i want to be optimistic
7+ new teams
but...
Not getting picked up after S2 + Losing in group stage of S3 + losing Kaiser
wish the best for them anyway
They were in very bad shape this season but partly because all being ill first round, and Kaiser leaving for the 2 other
= no org wants runaway
runner is bad, but he's a good shotcaller
and motivator
imo he will be good as coach maybe
Stitch is also a good hitscan so he wont have an issue finding a team either
don't forget Kox, he received a lot of praise from Runner
and Bumper
Runner will probably become coach
Mirage can go back to streaming
yeah, the didn't have much of a chance to prove themselves
same goes for Runner ๐
If Kalios is actually good, some teams need a new tank
i've to admit that they were unlucky tbh
Kaiser left with a short notice iirc
they got sick for 1/2 matches
They probably really wanted him in takeover to get some experience
But yeah that did come as a shock >_>
he have financial issue and NA pays more

I heard he stole Ryujehong's BBQ









