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they really need to make it harder to derank
you dont go from GM to bronze in one day skill wise
Ah, it's this again.
you don't go from gm to bronze in one day period
I had him blocked but I just have to see.
that's like 200 games
The T-mobile Ca vs US was a joke
if your mmr is garbage sure
just watched the vod
but you have to like actively throw
I know symmetra main
who was around 500 SR before boost
he returned from 3700 to 1k in 1 day
mmr
he was hella tilted
natural selection? lol
a bronze player getting dropped back to bronze makes sense, but a gm having a bad day and getting down to bronze is pretty much impossible. after a certain point they lose like 2 sr per game
@balmy wolf road isn't your classic dive comp. Doesn't mean a team that is clearly superior can't play it and have success vs a team that's not even close to being on their level. There's clearly a disconnect with you and reality.
rip SBB
hanzo new meta
hanzo always was in meta (use sonic arrow on the start and repick)
@glad chasm feels free to search if I ever said something like "Roadhog is a true dive pick" or something equally silly like that
so do we have to have this argument every week now or what
especially when I noted that it is more stylistic than anything
since he is not a dive tank
you both literally agree with each other, you're just wording it differently and wanna insult each other for no real reason
That'd be like a GM smurfing into gold/plat level games and playing offensive torb or junk and then calling it meta because a clearly superior player smashed some lower tier comp
Ok ok. Offensive sym?
lw blue has looked pretty bad on defense all season tbh
you saying, @delicate sparrow ?
I have no idea what your point possibly is reign
Lol
but it's not that deep
Dude just wants to argue
MLG said there is just no way a dive would be run with hog, ever, on that date
^
When Reign has been saying it's stylistic from the beginning
I'm muting all 3 of you I can't live like this
Noooo
this is some level of
right here
we need another text channel to discuss about important things like diving roadhogs
"no you are agreeing with each other"
"no he's not"
"you are blocked"
what is this, tumblr?
like if you coming into a text channel and not expected to listen to argument then why are you here then
everyone is wrong
look dog
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If hog were actually a legit dive pick there would be more than 1 reference point this far into the apex season
you both think teams run roadhog as an off-meta pick with dive, not an actual on meta thing but people still run it
it's the same fucking thing
how do you care enough to argue about this a full week later
never run as part of dive =/= stylistic choice on dive
that's a rather big different but I digress
@delicate sparrow he brought it up and tagged me man
i don't even remember when this war started
last apex matches
And I'm just mentioning there only being 1 reference point up to this point in apex s3 of a hog sighting in anything resembling dive. I'm just looking at what these guys are playing
KDP somehow won that when get EMP'd
@glad chasm clearly not the "no they dont"
but i'm just providing "questionable" take so 
shit
Clearly is a "no they dont" when there's only been a single instance
Luffy fucking up now
and also it is not even just APEX when other teams also run in a few time
but I guess we are just using APEX S3 for the sake of keeping it strangely specific 
1 instance in apex s3 which is clearly the highest level gameplay atm
also, nobody noticed LW BLue with single support
wtf Pine
EMP into a dragonblade
RIP
single support on hollywood first isn't that weird tbh
Not a 3-0 omg
if it wasn't for Luffy getting spooked and fucked up the Transdencence
we could see a first point hold.
but Pine did his job
1-1
LWB won a really close koth. KDP kind of just destroyed that Hollywood. Not sure what to make right now
"either"
Spirit put up a fight vs LW Blue, while LH also missing WhoRU
so it is not as clear cut as it seems
whoru is supposedly just sick
he should be fine by the time they play conbox if it isn't super serious
no guarantee that he could be playing for LH if his sickness still persists
nV vs Athena 3 next week 
kind of wish nV get shat on just so that I can meme about all the armchair analysts who thought that nV would make it far after EFFECT acquisition
@crisp lynx is Agape a part of current LW Blue coaching staff or no?
no
he is FA officially, you can watch his stream in twitch now also
he commentary apex personally
assuming that his team is in Contenders
who's getting him I wonder
a sub for IMT? 
how many player each team has?
only 6
as sub
a few I think
2~3?
vary a lot
max sub is 3
so it can go anywhere from 1 to 3
KDP has 1 sub I believe
no wait LWB have 2
@red anvil within Contenders, not APEX
Aha sorry
first fight cap 
man LW blue defense is so bad
IMT has envy as sub already, they has RG coach who connected kariv, fate with IMT. maybe he helped fury to find his team. i don't think IMT need another korean sub
Jesus
"Pine sombra isn't working can you switch dude?"
5:54
That was the fastest 2cp cap I've ever seen
it looks like 3:1 coming
sadface
Hope it's not a 3-1
Yeah, time doesn't really matter on 2cp if you misuse ults
luffy with the default emote
luffy soldier again. he did well last game vs LH
this hurts to see
janus watch this in hospital. RIP
pine pls switch
Such a sick EMP
man this shit is so hard to watch. you know it wouldn't be nearly this bad if janus was there
inb4 Route 66
KDP is pretty good at route 66 iirc
is this QP
LWB are going full tilt lol
"let me carry this game as Mercy" - Gambler
Fl0wer with the tilt blade
why would you want to blade 1v6
He was lucky to get killed so quickly yeah
wait wtf does sylph play if pine can flex support and they choose to use him for that over sylph
is he a lucio sub??
how did Gambler died there
he was in the Transendence
but still died to blade
Sylph is listed as flex support
that's actually a zoning visor
focus fire I assume
Soon lul?
AOD are the real season 3 champs
even Rogue did it
LWB showing them the difference between a good team and a k-pop idol
LW Blue fangirling
this feels like every comp match I've ever had where I suggest someone play (insert meta hero) and they refuse for 80% of the match and we get stomped on until they swap
re: pine and zenyatta
anyways
Void constantly clutching his chest
I really hope LW blue and LH are at full strength when they play
LWB got bodied 1-3?
@delicate sparrow won't they be playing next Friday? Seems Like a short time for Janus to recover from a collapsed lung
@clever wagon basically
Are there console OW tournaments anyway? I never hear of any.
there's a few
but very small
let's face it, the console OW section is an afterthought
rip
Top tiers on console players just filled with keyboard and mouse adapters anyhow
so trying to make something serious work there is kinda out of the question
oh LWB lose 1-3
Will they stream all of the contenders group stage matches tomrrow or just one group?
FeelsBadMan
im looking forward to see what kungarna comes up with next.
I consider them to be the magicians of OW.
or wait
I think im getting them confused
I just wanna see Vivi's on stream
Maybe they will stream 1 or 2 games from each group so we can see more teams
did they post anything about contenders anywhere
One Match from each group will be broadcasted each day. A more precise broadcast schedule will be delivered
to the team once Group Stage Participants and schedule have been finalized.
guess we wont know which until tomorrow
we just know that the stream will start 7pm CEST
My best mates bros team is currently playing on twitch at epiclan5
No one cares
toxic
So toxic
Fury with the intimidating opening statement upon joining @TeamLiquid
full announcement here: https://t.co/oiN55JdCbE
the fuck
maybe that's the only word he knows?
Im not talking about that
im talking about him joining the team
FUCK
@crisp lynx
you right
who is benched then?
sub
oh it's fury
also just realized
if Team Liquid boot camping at nVidia headquarter
Shadder is in NA 
Well Rapha did say on stream they had plans to move him hopefully very soon
and that was like
a week ago maybe
NA contenders group A is interesting
@crisp lynx next month apparently
i heard they built team house in july.
"Maybe Fury is replacing shadder, cuz Shadder is still in europe from what i know"
fuck.
i just want to watch SDB vs Shadder genji fight without ping issue.
lul replacing shadder
he doesnt have the hero pool for that
nor does id have the hero pool for that
The only reason he would still be in Europe is because it isnt that easy to move a teenager still living at home and still going to school from europe to north america
Fury played Dva, tracer, soldier in Apex and he was zarya main. no genji record.
Shadder actually has a very diverse hero pool
Even though he's a genji specialist, he plays all the off tanks very well
who even said that @balmy wolf
someone from SDB discord
any news on this @crisp lynx
Well, they talk about a 7 man roster in the announcement on their website, they also talk about him playing off tanks with the "occasional" dps hero
I find it doubtful
At the moment, he is probably playing in shadders spot
for scrims
it's right, i knew
commitee doesnt give any hint of rosters.
but people are worried because it look like LH + LWB team
both two team played badly recent match
koreans being worried that a team made up of two of the best teams in the world will lose
the West loves that combination
lol
The committee includes two Apex commentators, they praise LH and LWB's some player recently. so fans assume that.
actually i like AFB more. so i don't like this trends
"worrying trend"
both got beat by KDP
so I assume some people from KDP will be on the shortlist
if no RJH they probably throwing
The roster was already submitted a few weeks ago according to "TheMarine" before RO8 match. so recent result did not reflect.
i hope they picked birdring at least.
apparently one of the rumor pick is SBB
yes i heard of that today.
SBB is who i said praised player today's match by TheMarine.
and birdling and SBB share similar hero pool 
no Genji one trick in KR national team 
haksal didn't pick because they said they picked only player in apex RO8
and whoru... i don't know.
Arhan lul.
Arhan looked solid but idk whether or not it is his team carrying him or whatever
his blade still looked like crap
and they usually committed heavily to it as well
you should check his charge speed.
i heard his charge is oddly fast.
so even if he waste some blade, overall efficiency is not so bad i heard. I do not know for sure.
Yee, I've heard that ArHaN is still a well respected Genji in Korea
He's mostly turned to a meme in the west thanks to apex s2
yes. he is more meme in west i think
But Koreans actually know him better and have seen him longer, so I'd trust their judgement over mine, lul
in korea, Esca LUL this meme is exist. but Arhan LUL is unfamiliar ๐
so does that Esca meme came over from NA or just originated by itself?
i thought it came from ognglobal channel. some fan who don't like Esca's play post screenshot of global chat
west invented funny meme
the west always invents the funny memes
ok. if there is meme worldcup, west will beat korea ez
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lol that highlight
XD
so this weekend every team plays the other once
the next weekend every team plays the other once
and for each region 4 matches get streamed each weekend
double round robin
12 matches per day
could just space out over the week tbh
instead of just squished it into a weekend
no man
that'd be too smart
gotta exhaust your players
and make them pay suboptimally because they've been sitting in front of their computers the whole day
very healthy for you, I heard
Team Liquid is boot camping in nVidia HQ though, which means they they will probably play in more optimal situation than everyone else
which is good
wowee
Not everyone @balmy wolf
no Shadder apparently
Selfless, IMT, Evil, C9, Hammers and Renegedes I think
are all in houses aswell
Well houses or similar
in their group
only Selfless is in house
and maybe CLG
but TL had been playing in sub optimal environment for so long
Oh right
they also have Hulk coaching too
so there's that

it seems like a lot of matches when only 4 of them get streamed a day
why do they have them do the group stage twice
seems like they are asking for a pretty big commitment and the teams are not getting much in return
for no reason
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agreed
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Lololol
and stream doesn't start till a few hours later
so what match will be stream
seriously
what time, too
12 matches
they better start this shit early
My guess is the stream schedule would be
vs
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vs
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vs 
someone help taimou 
i'll be more surprised when there's a pro that likes the game
Kongdoo manager doing AMA now. he said KDP want to meet nV in semi-final between nV,MA,X6.
about fucking time
http://i.imgur.com/6G6hRRd.png
i clicked on that and people were in the twitch channel complaining why they are advertising it even if its not on right now
Is Hydration even NA?
Lol Surefour is streaming while high giving hell to Pharmercy's
I won't say no to HIGH OCTANE GAMING
Hi
sup m8
Soim looking for a team that is interested in recruiting
I wont say details of my role here, just dm me #lf-players-na
no click on that it it will take you to the channel for that stuff
no esports game are on right now so wont see many people #general-discussion is usually where most people talk about random stuff
https://clips.twitch.tv/SucculentCrackyKuduCoolStoryBro he is so high
Cummies
@crisp lynx the current incarnation of KDP is a joke
You mean KDU, right? Got confused for a few seconds
At least you got a team
The things you can achieve with a filthy, disgusting, nauseating 6 stack picking on a tier or more below.
he only plays in like 6 queues against plats
At the very fucking least back in the day Evermore maintained his 5k SR queueing against high tier KR players
afaik
Lul
I just played it earlier
Solo though
Too noob to even look at ranking
But anyway
We love Overwatch eSports don't we
i wanna see how the viewership will be like now that blizzard is kinda advertising it
he was offtank
Which means that haksal could have been on genji if he had been in korea :(
Ah,offtank
Oops
well, it's understandable that they will advertise actual event and not the qualifiers
who is interested in OW esport was able to find out about qualifiers anyway
At the very fucking least back in the day Evermore maintained his 5k SR queueing against high tier KR players
he played in party with other pro players
do you realize that KR ladder is so much different than NA ladder or EU ladder?
everyone in top 500 and mid GM is more or less equally skilled
and there is no way even top500 6stack will go against master/diamond players
the problem is that Asia server is populous enough that matchmaking actually works
unlike in NA
so their ladder are a. more consistent and b. a better indicator of skill
cough NA Mercy main cough
australian server belongs to NA
sea then
SEA then what?
you can abuse rating on asian server
if australian server belongs to Asia
sea then
So I have no idea why or how but suddenly either my cheap mic or my mobo rear mic jack works
Nothing was captured when I first tried it with my current rig
@balmy wolf Asia server? For OW?
I believe SEA goes into Americas, or... also goes into Americas
Since I use Americas and I get 20 ms or less, which most likely means somewhere in SG or MY
Introducing Overwatch Contenders - the development league for aspiring Overwatch League professionals, kicking off in summer 2017 in North America and Europe. Season Zero of Overwatch Contenders will be an open signup, online-only tournament with a USD $50,000 prize pool per region.
Group stage announced
No idea if "Asia" as listed in the BNet login also includes SEA/my region though, never tried it
@clever wagon funny because I played mainly on Asia
Lol
and for the most part I got matched in SEA
wtf
America server in Asia will redirect you back to Asia anyway
SEA is not OCE right?
so the distinction is kind of useless
Maybe SEA is included in both
it can't
SEA is Asia
I don't care anyway
Ha!
Vietnam is sending the team that just stomp through the SEA LAN tournament
so let's see how it goes
they all 3-0 or 2-0 most of their opp
Taiwan has Flash Wolves
US might get flunked out tbh
Taiwan can send Flash Wolves
and Brazil can send BGH
so yeah
what you saw in USA vs Canada was one big joke
Everybody knows that
Canada's team with normal setup would've destroyed USA
By now
and even then Mangachu is aware of his bad pick
and said that they might change the roster
so there's that
but NA team is like "what"
I just feel bad for people who believe in that propaganda and think USA can go to Blizzcon
only pick that seems to make sense is Coolmatt
Coolmatt, Adam and Sinatraa I can understand
@vocal yoke they might get through the group stage but will flunk out at the RO8 or RO16
not even Sinatraa
even Grim is a better hitscan than Sinatraa
and Grim is inconsistent as fuck
Buds is underrated as hitscan as well
Adam, maybe.
that's why I said they probably won't make it to Blizzcon
only two teams from Burbank qualifier advance
Slasher said that he'd be happy if Team USA got a top 4 finish 
with Cantus? nah
Cantus is a support for the best team in NZ iirc
it make his SR questionable when he 6 stack at non peak hour and feast on diamond level players.
they won't take into consideration his 6stacking on LAN
you sure?
his team is currently ranked 2 in Asia-Pacific
according to over.gg
they won OCE tournament recently
their automated ranking is pretty shit
why would you put Blank eSport who had been compete in a bigger LAN (OPC) below Mastermind who just won a regional LAN (COE)?
I am not putting them above then wtf
just saying that they are not as bad as people are saying
because they only see the whole 6stacking thing
I fucking said that it's over.gg's ranking, never stated that it's my personal feeling jesus fucknig christ
you are the one that said they are "ranked 2 in Asia-Pacific", and I pointed out that the ranking is pretty flawed, and now you backpedal by saying that "they are not as bad as people are saying"
over.gg ranking is automated, which means that it taking into account more recent win loss disregard of strength of opponent and context
hence why Masterminds somehow managed to grab second spot because they won recently, but context wise, they are playing in a weaker region and a smaller LAN
Taiwan/China/Thailand/Japan/Australia > Australian
OPC has teams from Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc etc
which automatically a stronger competition
ok I'm out because this has no fucking sense to me anymore
you seems to not get that Australia is a weak region
winning a local LAN in a weak region does not mean somehow you are number 2 as Asia Pacific
what are some good sites for overwatch, to see stats and match history and if there is one to see what rating your team is and enemy team?
if you log in?
oh okey thx
blizz finally with the contenders advertisement
isnt masteroverwatch a better site ?
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over.gg is esports
esports stats and match history
so yeaaah, this is kinda the wrong place to ask
ow doesn't have any actual match history
so overbuff tries to recreate it using other data that I don't fuckin know
oh okey, gotcha
blizz doesn't have any official API, so it just scrapes data from playoverwatch.com and checks out how you've been looking at your stats + other stuff and tries to give you as much data of that as you can
mo and overbuff both have their pros and cons, I tend to use overbuff, but one of the best things about MO is that it contains data from previous seasons
overbuff doesn't feel like saving that
but yeah, stats without context are kinda pointless, so take everythign you see with 10 c-17 loads of salt
okey thank you ๐
np bby
im coming from league and there u have alot of sites that tells u everything
iirc riot actually has an official API for that, although you can correct me if I'm wrong
Same goes for csgo
so you have a hundred bajillion sites telling you stats
iirc blizz said something about how they'd like to implement something like taht
but it takes time and really isn't high priority rn, probably
I'd guess that it will come when we get replays etc
oh i see didnt know that
Blizzard's API apparently is in high priority
according to one of the interview
so at least that it is coming
before any skins (hopefully)
I don't remember it being high priority, actually, I remembered the opposite
it was in a recent interview with Scott Mercer
Winston's Lab?
or Omnic, can't remember
replays are def more important imo
like that should be standard for any game going esport
even better, you can even parse data in replays like you can w/ csgo
get so much information out of it
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this was in May
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Mercy

Lul
contenders broadcast only 4 games out of 24 games. 
isn't 24 games a week?
double round robin
oh, NA+EU i see
4 groups, each team in each group play 4 4 games series, 4x3x4=48
and they only broadcasting 4 of them 
i understood, ty
in 3 hours
"soon"
I haven't truly enjoyed playing Overwatch in a long while. Really considering to work at McDonalds rather than play this tbh.
158
rather easy to not enjoying OW when you are not winning
thanks Alicus
in other words he's gonna tweet if they win or not
Ultimately, their efforts are in vain. We 3-1 the Control map in convincing fashion.
2-0 up in the series vs NWA. https://t.co/Fc1YcbLgmn
NWA getting the business
nip vs vivi
https://www.twitch.tv/henzuyall
๐ for NiP
NiP is down one map
and it's 2-2 on oasis atm
it's bo3, right?
Matches during the Group Stage will be โ4 Game Setsโ. In a single Match, Teams will play 4 maps in total, with the team earning the highest number of maps taking the victory. 4 Game Sets that end 2-2 will result in a tie for that Match. Tiebreakers will be played after all matches in the Group Stage complete and final results are recorded.
ah, this format
thonks
also, NiP is down 100-0 overtime
and they dropped oasis
dat fucking dva kill right at the end
https://clips.twitch.tv/BoldDelightfulBisonTheTarFu
"No serious team strim their scrim/comm" Slasher 

Vivi have a coach btw?
Oh noey
NIP ๐ข
so they dropped 3 maps?
yee
also, LUL, poor linkzr
https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialWimpyRadishHeyGirl
well
at least it is double round robin
so they have like 24 maps
to play from this week to next
but if they get completely swept in the map series though
that won't bode well
:(
probably delayed
also, 123 is looking kinda good
I'm hyped to watch them later today
oh wait, I fukt up
we aren't seeing them play today 
NiP getting snowballed on gib :(
5:24 to cap 3rd
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linkzr is carrying so hard, lul
Hymzi's Roadhog ๐ฟ
what happen to Logix?
he woke up with a fucked up eye (or eyes, I forgot) for no reason
eye hurt a ton, although he still performed stupid well
probably dust
Left eye socket is completely fucked and can barely open my eye, today should be fun :|
ggs 2-1 vs @expertesport - we make top 8, my eyesight has been getting progressively worse so lets hope I can play all of the games
Western tourney format of extra long match days are fun
NiP with 4 minutes to cap third ๐
NiP completed with like, 30 seconds
almost did it with 3, but got stalled
both have 1 minute now
๐
NiP got first in OT
NiP c9'd the payload
almost got to second though
NiP blew it
:/
4-0 and they all closed the game :(
rip
that's one map series down
NIP should just run triple tank tbh
instead of forcing the meta
i just want one team that we don't expect to get by
NIP no ;_;
maybe that's Expert
Team Expert playing good or eUnited play badly 
they can still stream these games on delays, right?
3 mins

Moobot: Bockett will not get timed out for 3 minutes
well even though contenders teams aren't streaming look what stream just started https://www.twitch.tv/a_seagull
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Sea "let me steal viewers from an important tournament" Gull
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Leave my boy Seagies alone
he's far from being both skilled and funny, idk how people enjoy his streaming tbh
i prefere timtheplatman over seagull
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at this point he is kind of grandfathered his way into OW fandom tbh
the first "superstar" DPS
HOTS isnt interesting to watch tbh
better than watching a mid tier genji
Watching Esports like OW and HOTS isnt interesting at all tbh
Theres not any teeth clenching moments like csgo
why are you here then?
^
Just sayin hi
ok bye
cause other channels are ded
"let me come into a house and take a dump in front of its door. Just saying hi though"
Yep ^
csgo is a boring shooter
Well people have their preferences
im not going in their discord telling csgo is shit
and you said your preference. And i'm sure people will care.
I still play ow
Don't get baited pals
Im just sayin the esports for me is borin
Im not baitin or anythin
nah 
yes, stream in half an hour
and no, it is the schedule
they have 12 games to get through today

and also, NIP vs GO
I feared for my life
Misfits vs Laser Kittenz will probably be fireworks though
which is good
Can I ask whats the interesting parts about the matches?
i think it's like the same in any esports, the storylines. clutch plays, good team coordination etc.
or the funny throws
1-1 between vivis and singularity

chat more interested in dafran than match
A bunch of people are probably playing on the scrims server atm.
maybe they didnt want too many white people
logix ๐
tho i guess that does make nV look weirder than they already look
@wintry matrix some of their recent decisions has been questionable
letting Hulk go, letting Lui go, picking X6, etc etc
now we are just at a point of where it all came crashing down
the Hulk thing i kinda understand, even if it's still a bit sad
So much drama in esperts
taimou is getting tilted. he duo with haksal. lose streak
at least his burnout kinda explains why he's been undeperforming
lol cyclowns
rip
this thread is now basically "fuck D.va, fuck Tracer, fuck balancing"
burnout
holy hell
stop fucking drinking alchol and have a shitty habits
that doesnt help
people will always complain about something
achieve the perfect balance is impossible
that's ok, the thread tho was just circle-jerking on the usual targets
just confirms a bit more that meta is more a matter of perspective than objectiveness
i do found it hilarious that D.va is completely OP in other fashion though
back in her meta she was too tanky
now her DM is too good
the other difference is that D.va is shit on MM but completely OP in pro
I mean dive is cancer tbh
and he even said without DM youd just immediately die to dive so its weird anyway as annoying as D.Va is she feels neccessary on your team a lot of the time cuz of certain threats
logix stop
So how do you "fix" dive?
not gut one of the few characters that was decent against it lol
logix is fuckin op wtf
Cyclowns going to need to full hold to not get 3-0'd. :(
probably 4-0'd at this rate
lol
wait, whos playing in bazooka puppiez? Or do i have to use google
i feel like ive never seen them play before
ube and some other guys

klanton, mete, kensi
hmmm ok thanks
it's totally not a laser kittenz reference
totes

It's Ex-LDLC + Rubikon
B L U N D E R
Rubikon with the helpful emote.
Cat > Dog
rip... 4-0'd
@supple nymph "not comfortable going to Poland"
yes, a leg will be happening in Katowice
ah
as for why, no clue.
For people asking why @trainokie isn't on the team, he can't/does not want to go to poland. If we were in the us/rosters aren't locked /1
Hrmm. What's the deal with Poland?
seems oddly specific
he could say he doesnt like to travel
or fly overseas
but he said poland
to be fair, i wouldnt want to go to poland either
Katowice is like one of the major esport city
why wouldn't you want to go to Katowice
unless you have school and shit
Katowice is actually a pretty bad city
There are better cities in Poland
But he doesnt want to go because of religious stuff I think
they usually holds IEM there
which is a pretty big event in IEM series
all of the event in the WC legs usually have a sort of esport background to it
Barbank had studios
Katowice hosted world class esport event before
Sydney the same
Well yeah Katowice has their esports stadium
but the actual city is pretty ehhh
and also
4-0 incoming
inb4 4 4-0
Vivi's 4-0ed GO
dids on dva
whoa
wtf
nice stream blizzard
LUL

hey, at least this game is closer
Good lord that whiff
๐ Expert ๐
Holy fuck
Wait... don't we know Dids?
Yes
This game is getting me hyped
yes, it's our dids
Dids nuuu
the vet guy
hes trusted too
huh, I was expecting dids on sombra
me too
Invision is playing Tracer like a Reaper. :P
He's usually playing tracer when hes not in his team
Speaking of @dusty surge
yee, dids is flexible af
Dids sombra is so good tho q-q
he's probably the flex dps of the team
Mei + Sombra 
REAPER WORKING LOL
another emp
dive with Reaper is underrated
Reaper is underrated.
reaper is underrated yeah
veineless sombra guise
but hes good against sombra
Reaper is niche in situation where you want Roadhog firepower but don't want to give ult battery to other team
KR teams run it, and so is my team
whoa
Oh man... look at that, almost a full hold.
Team Expert with the KDP strats
without knowledge how to run it
they been running single support triple dps
and completely failed at diving the point
And the full hold.
veineless on sombra ๐คค
is contenders being shown on the launcher? havent seen a tweet
gg
DIDS
Wow. It's the Dids show on that push.

@drowsy arrow ur a god
omg dids
DIDS
MY GOD
Its on the launcher @amber ember
Singularity Ninja 2-0 NIP so far
NIP ๐ข
yeah
wtf was that winston dive
meanwhile, 18K viewers over at Seagull's stream
Lmao
then again this is father's day weekend.
but still
@limber pine
Overwatch Contenders - NA Group Stages June 18 2017 
Streamed Matches
4:00 PM PDT
Yikes! vs Immortal 
5:30 PM PDT
Toronto Esports vs Luminosity Gaming Evil 
7:15 PM PDT :
Hammers Esports vs Cloud9 
8:45 PM PDT :
Faze Clan Vs Selfless Gaming 
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchcontenders
Bracket: https://www.overwatchcontenders.com/standings
that winston dive lost them the game
Sea "I want to help the scene by streamsnipe it" Gull
it is Hollywood Hammers lol
that rematch though
Misfits 3-1 NWA







