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no....you didn't listened to Hulk speaking.

They picked him because hes actually kawai af
nV told Mickie to grind D.va. What happened next was a perfect storm for nV. That's about it .
He was initially recruited for a Zarya
which he showed in the World Cup.
well, casters misinformed me then
mind you
it worked out in the short run
but in the long run
nV is kind of fucked
after the D.va nerf Mickie is less effective
and his hero pool are limited in term of is it world class or not
I guess that's the price to pay for winning APEX S1 and MLG Vegas
iirc he was a Widow main before
Read the transcript @ https://blitzesports.com/video/1325/doa-stats-overwatch-what-stats-actually-important-judge-r Overwatch stats are hard, you can't alway...
wasn't Thailand a full team called WeedTime? that would mean that his team was lacking off tank so he would've ground it anyway
he grinded Zarya
Someone know when is The showmatch USA vs Canadรก???
And where exactly?
It's at E3 @deep abyss
dafuq
Nice i'm pretty close to there, maybe i'll get some tickets for it.
it is high school shit, apparently
Yeah, figured
That was such a short notice, there's no way it'll involve actual teams
1 month
Ok, then there's still a fact that barely any mention from any team
Highscool moneyz naisu
Who has the higher pick rate on high ladder, Zen or Lucio?
Lucio
Mercy probably
I know before Ana was highest played character in GM and Mercy like everywhere else now idk since mercy is just abundant now :)
Hopefully shell be deleted soon though
With pineapple?
REEEE
I mean
Pizza for 900 days, you're gonna need more topping variety than those that exist currently sooner or later amirite
die
Man it was just a question REEEE
Insinuating that my father would so such a thing smh

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what does he mean pussy strat
Pharmercy
no strat is illegitimate pfffft
Any strat with Mercy is illegitimate
Cant wait to get my 10$
I think i 100% misunderstood what the 10$ prize is
They are not giving everyone participating 10$ right?
Anyone can play 10 games or will they have to win some?
anyone

cant keep up with the name changes
first some guy named SpriteGuy shows up in Admins
now anime names with you

Wha
But Im bronze

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start one-tricking mercy?
what's open division
I prefere they would gave money instead of blizz balance. I know blizz balance cost 0 to them but...
Guess i could buy stuff and sell it
If i can use that balance for merchandise n stuff
This Overwatch interview features LW BLUE Flow3R (Flower), formerly known as Nanohana, who gives us his wrist injury update, his relationship with Lunatic-Ha...
holding mouse wrongly for years
Wow
Fuck yes. I'm now finally not a worse weeb than @solid spear is

Finland's gift to card games 
vegetables are better than steaks
i think taimou is the one that think tf2 is still better than ow
@solid spear What SR are you at the moment. You sound like me ๐
ICYMI, I interviewed Laser Kittenz about their bootcamp in Korea.
Alicus: โThereโs a lot more strategic depth to Overwatch than CS:GO, and as far as tactics are concerned, League of Legends canโt compare either."
http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/6075
โThereโs a lot more strategic depth to Overwatch than CS:GO, and as far as tactics are concerned, League of Legends canโt compare either." that's ๐ถ
I mean that's kinda true?
There's a lot more micro management in game for OW than CSGO... afaik
There are a lot more things going on in that "skirmish" though
i wish
What "you wish"
Well, I'm not that heavily invested in CSGO, so maybe you could explain how CSGO's "skirmish" is deeper than OW
in OW you need just to manage your ultimates to get better outcome
and then just team death match happens
Soo where did those other things like target priority, flanking, enemy ult monitoring, and shit go in your argument?
There's timing and tactics on OW too
Tell me how is that vastly different than CSGO?
in everything
Because ult management isn't "timing"?
nope
just watch tier 1 cs go games
timing is "when you need use your nade" to delay or stop their push
or when you need to rotate to prevent plant
Taking their support ults out first isn't counter push?
sometimes teams use 2 and they lose next teamfight
sadly
Seems like you don't watch/play CS:GO at all
i mean you are fans of OW and that's it
i understand
current OW is kind of shallow in term of map usage
and real study in term of rotation
seems like you don't understand the deepth of OW strategy
prob you are like "press more q to win"
My dream shotcalling would be something like "ok, we go to left, push to clock, wait for them to rotate throug hotel, then speed boost hard engage on top of them. Ana is high priority target"
and i won a lot
right now it is just "we go left, and engage"
there's too much shit involving in a fight in OW compared to CSGO
OW is young and this is why i can't see deep strategy
strategic depth is shallow mainly because people aren't using the map properly
i hope
if you play in a team you would understand
with proper resources management/engage/disengage
Apex has exited the group stages and it's time to check in on some of the strategy on display at Overwatch's most competitive tournament. There's one element of team play that, when executed correctly, can remove an opponent's ultimates from them. CaptainPlanet is here to preach the gospel of Disengaging.
for example
this detailed 3 instances where KR teams completely befuddled Western teams
by proper disenagement and counter diving
well... engage disengage there's on csgo too
not saying that it doesn't have it in CSGO
just saying that at least in the West
shotcalling and strats are shallow
because people don't ever fucking study things in depth
reason of why west suck ๐
it is not even that. Just not enough people look at things critically
like for example, Rogue and Gilbraltar
they have the science of defend that place down
it is like old NIP on Inferno
mechanical skills in both regions are the same .
talking on average
but SK had the privelege of better ladder scene
which helps foster talents
while Western ladder is shite.
good luck playing with Mercy mains
cant see too much quake pro aimer or csgo aimer from korean
Mechanical skills is pretty much the same these days
West is just too slow in growing
I got an anecdote just tonight
I advertised myself as coach/analyst
I went to look at a team in scrim and was offering advice
they were running Mercy with dive.
no Pharah
and I asked "why?"
... Whut
oh it gets better.
What's the team's SR
That's about as annoying as the supports in my game that don't run Zen with Genji and Winston around
the Mercy DUDE told me with very aggrevated voice that Mercy is the correct pick in Lijiang Control Center because he can use her mobility to escape from flanker
straight face.
to which I hold the urge to get a knife and slit my wrist after hearing that.
he has point btw
Some korean teams
escape the flankers.
they paired it with Widow though
Yeah I mean GA to who, since his team would mostly be diving anyway
LW Blue strats
this is on KOTH
Lijiang Tower
Control Center
no sightline for Widow
and shit for Pharah
And no option to GA
so I had to explain that Mercy is a bad pick in this meta unless you are playing Pharmercy (in which they didn't)
team's SR average? 2.8K
Lul
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Dude, I had to told them that I played support in low GM level and spectate tier 2 games all the time to get them to shut up
(I'm a plat but you got the point)
another problem though
is that NA players are very hesistant to get coach
because they think coach just some dude who spectate, offer insights, maybe review vods, and that's it
not someone like B1shop
who is basically running the joint
I mean after seeing LK's KR players in RadoN's article
I kinda get the point
Why would you burden yourself as a player to think twice as much
Barely any sport does that
eh, not really
I do think players do have to involves with the coaches to a certain degree to get the strat juice going
the problem is that disobedient because "we play the game, not you"
I had to explain to that team that their Mercy pick is just bad
and even then it took like 5 minutes to actually get the point across
oh and also, when me and my team members spectated and asked what's the other team's SR
they said 3.4K
and we said that is too high for you guys
the team captain triggered hard and told us that "don't tell me how to get scrims"
Oh, fuck I've been there before
at that point I offered everything I had and bailed out immediately after
there's no point of coaching that kind of idiocy
There's this Gold/low plat and lower bunch of Indonesian players
"Scrims" with high Diamonds/Masters
I was the highest there being high plat
I excused myself out the day after
we had several teams that was like "oh yeah we are low GM too"
got into lobby
mid master/high master at best
of course to which we stomp them and didn't learn a speck
getting stomped is bad. But stomping other team is also bad.
And that incident instantly shattered my hope of OW here
Indonesians just fucking suck in extremely fast paced games like OW
Case in point being the only games they're ever moderately prominent at are CSGO and DOTA, and that's not even in the big EU scenes for CSGO or Majors for DOTA
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lol
yeah id is good on Dota iirc
Part of the cause being there are so few people here with half decent rigs to run these games
and italy is shit on everything haha
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/151848358 here's my team scrimming a Moonmoon's tournament team, starts at 2:35:17

this is from other team's POV by the way
CSGO yeah has a pretty steep mechanical curve but it's not often paired with high mobility like OW is
team name?
Team Chimera
spoiler alert: we stomped them in 3 maps
which is double hilarious because of this
2 months ago their captain refused scrims because we were too low for them.
100% of my irl friends on Steam play doto only for competitive multiplayer games
So yeah
Hard life
Wait I got 2-3 that play FPS
But only CSGO
And I'm not really interested either
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
lol
Ah, well thats another world
@clever wagon let's just say some of their comp was questionable
mind you
we do run Reaper ourselves
but only situationally
LW janus has health issue again. he can't play tomorrow
hope that he recovers quickly ๐
maybe roar or think in LW red will be subbed, if the ogn rule allows.
roar subbed last season, right?
@clever wagon you never were

disgusting weabs
Is that a joke
Seija needs a 7k sr boost
has this been posted here
Apex has exited the group stages and it's time to check in on some of the strategy on display at Overwatch's most competitive tournament. There's one element of team play that, when executed correctly, can remove an opponent's ultimates from them. CaptainPlanet is here to preach the gospel of Disengaging.
I really need to start writing articles. The bar for that shit is so low these days.
How so?
The grammar and general writing ability of a lot of the writers in the gaming space are exceedingly low considering they're getting paid for their work.
there are a lot of works for that actually
but the pay isnt high
the most laughable was 2$ for one approved article
better 2$ than voluntary but lel
lol
Dats good moneyz

holla holla get dolla
._.
i love them tbh
I usually stick to 2
dont watch his stream too
but i like him tbh
i love his music taste
and he isnt that terrible as someone say
xQc can fill the meme and the villain role for me
tbh kungarna always felt very obnoxious to me for some reason
nah xQc is only toxic
it was especially annoying when they started shouting around like retards during NGE when they walked in with sunglasses
#FreePookz
?
According to mykl they've started converting him
and he's slowly turning into one of them
Nice
there was that one video from mykl's pov where they won against yikes and were shouting around like retards the whole time while pookz was just like "stop shouting guys" lmao
If you want them to stfu
You have to focus x
That's a good tactics
lalalalalalalala lululululululu
lucioluciolucioluciolucio tracertracertracertracertracer dvadvadvadvadvadvadva
RERERERERE 
comms in pro overwatch in a nutshell
Janus... 
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I hate all teams
i want to love as many teams as possible
but some teams makes it very hard
xqc is a great streamer but really needs to stop that dirtbag attitude
The only one i dislike is NRG
Why?
I dislike all teams
We get it
Wait no meme Reddit nvm
They nice
NRG a lot of people hate due to their popularity
IDDQD, Harb and Seag are big streamers
NRG is pretty good

not some i would ever cheer for but 
So....?
Harb and Idd established themselves as good players well before they were bigger streamers
Because they gets merits because they are famous, not because they are truly good
Seagull doesnt even play for the team
Id and Harb dropped a lot tbh
No, im not looking at NRG as a whole
Saw them individually and never did smth impressive
Their best hero got replaced already
Harb is not the best hog anymore as ID is not the best cree anymore
A lot of people think his Zarya is better anyway
Yeah
Plus McCree is bascially dead, and Hog is about to be dead so it barely matters
Mcree is dead on west
Less dead on KR
But still dead
And Harb didn't became famous for Zarya but for hog
Still, other dps/off tanks are better than them :)
He was only more known for Hog because great Hogs werent as common not because it was better
Not talking for myself
Is what plats said about him
Loved Harb in CoL
Also... Can't understand why they moved on LA n shit when they can't even be in OWL
Since they lost contenders
If i was NRG with their money, i would disband and get a new team
Why keep paying a team that's under performing with no spot in contenders?
Same goes for
tbh
Does not qualifying for Contendets really disqualify you from OWL?
you have to wait next contenders iirc
or play OWOpen iirc
would be a shame tbh, there are a lots of team that deserve to be in... even NRG...
It wasnt porn >_<
With the right patch it is
It's like Dafran shows the plot of irl porn istead of the actual porn
But the movie is still porn :p
nekopara
not porn
you want me to send you some of the CGs?
I've seen a lot of them whie I was researching
Yes 
well, in huniepop you have to play bejeweled with a ticking clock during the... errr... scenes
<_<
you don't need both hands, but focusing on the jewels is important
fuck, I love esports
I love esports as well
i really love esport sojum
So 5 hours til NA world Cup teams at E3
Surefour + Agilites ๐
if they aren't on the team for some reason then lul
I'm reporting the committee for throwing
Pokelawls > Agilities
was ๐
hope manga will be in Canada team but not sure
S4 and Agilities fits better
He could be
manga would be nice, but surefour not being in the team would be a massive throw, and I prefer agilities over manga
S4 and Agilities will be on
is the canadian team announcement, or is that announcment also coming at e3?
Who loves esports
well, I'm biased because I'm a genji main lol
*announced
Well Agilities
really weab sojum
I think Roolf, Agilities, and S4 are pretty much locks
I still wonder if they want to send misfits for sweden
and how IDDQD feels about this, lul
After seeing Misfits
they're probably still gonna
I dont know
I need more matches
If Zebbo and Tviq can bully Misfits through
Misfits went finals no?
@limber pine the Canadian team announcement is coming in e3 as well
They didnt get out of groups
the only matches where they looked really good was vs LK and Movistar

he's talking about conntenders
conntenders
no worries bby
@toxic yacht plz
Misfits has won vs movi 3 times in a row
deserve a ban
so It's probably just a matchup thing

@limber pine shhh 
O_O maatchup
No Chips is a throw
howdy y'all, i wrote an article on baiting and disengaging which functions as a mini-apex review as well, let me know what you think! https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6hfv6r/article_disengaging_overwatchs_most_devastating/
yee
OW Open Division run by ESL? Does that mean more UberJKap?
got posted 3 times already haha
No advertisement 
ICYMI
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@spazzo Nah it's cool, theres a good reason for it. Blizz treat me like a prince and I know why I'm not there. It's c h i l l

can you drop me an invite to blob server btw
I never go there, so I'll most likely never catch an invite
i don't think you can invite to the blob server anymore
since the blobpocalypse it's pretty much impossible to get an invite without nolifing the channel



there's a server that has a bot with a command just to say what happened to the blob server
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from the dafran selfless article 
What NA teams barring Rogue and NV if you count em have had more consistent results than selfless
I mean they got 2nd in the post Rogue Melee and first in the rumble
But yeah about Canada roster think it'll be S4/Agilities/Xqc/Joemeister/Roolf + Manga/ID/Azk
RIOT keep doing bs and we are here questioning Blizzard
i think we will never reach RIOT bs tbh
like... every month RIOT is doing some retarded bs
whenever we think that blizzard is retarded
Where can I find Contenders results?
let's just be happy about the fact that they are better than riot
Introducing Overwatch Contenders - the development league for aspiring Overwatch League professionals, kicking off in summer 2017 in North America and Europe. Season Zero of Overwatch Contenders will be an open signup, online-only tournament with a USD $50,000 prize pool per region.
has everything from the teams, to the brackets and the schedule
Oh so it's not over yet
currently the matches for the group stages are unknown, but we know that it's a double round robin format and how the groups are structured
Player union and the leader is not even choosen by the players is fucking top kek
so we know who will play whom, just not when exactly
โ groups
and no, it's not over yet
if you want a "cleaner" view of it http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Overwatch_Contenders/Season_Zero/Europe
I don't know the intricacies of LoL, so I can't really comment on that
yee
this one is better
OWC standings gave me cancer
is this where i look for a group?
at least the other stuff looks fine, but liquipedia is more compact
whoops meant to send it to #overwatch-serious hahah
thanks
yeah ๐ฆ
it's not even hard to design a website that remembers which region you were looking at one the previous page
NA > EU 
too bad the top na are eu players lul
what genre of music was takeover using
ow default music iirc
dunno, but I'd like to have the ducksong
thank mr ford
tbh I'm not sure whether they just invented that song or wot
I couldn't find the name of it anywhere
shazam?
yee
I think I'll just clip that bit and steal the music since there were no obnoxious sounds
the ducks were art
Selly said he will be join NA team. i don't know which team exactly yet.

lol
oops

mine is from the rocket league server
Rocket League


lul memes
@crisp lynx if IMT somehow get Fury, it will be 
honestly, i like hyped. he played dva well in contenders.
if i have to bet, i bet fury goes to team liquid.
why would you say that?
also, who's off tanking in Liquid? ID_?
how's
Fury's Pharah and Widow though?
since TL run a lot of them with ID_ on those two
I doubt he's going to liquid
Cut together a bunch of Twitch clips to make the song and spent more time than I'd like to admit making this garbage. Please tell me that there are easier wa...
@rapid oxide
threw something together
since I couldn't find the bloody thing I decided to do it myself
someone know the players which will play today in the showmatch betweet USA and Canadaยฟ?
yeah i know but which players will play
so this players will be the players whcich are going to play in World Cup too rightยฟ?
nice
for anyone to want to know, Team Spain will be Bromas Winghaven Neptuno HarryHook Dhak and Toxiken
its not reveal but it will be this team almost 100%
also, TIL that toxiken is spanish
Where'd you get that from
yes
from the spanish inquisition
His mind
cuz im from Spain
cuz he is Spain
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Being from spain doesn't mean you automatically know the WC roster lol
Harry as Ana or zen
wot
Neptuno will play as dps
...is neptuno gonna DPS then?
ah
is he more versatile than harry or something?
I've only seen him on lushio
tbh
harry is kinda limited to hitscan
and they already have bromas, so that may be why
here in Spain there are only 7 potencial players which could go to World Cup
and Linepro said like 2 weeks ago that he wont play in the Word Cup
yes
but he said on Twitter that he wont play with Spain
Neptuno was main dps before Movistar Riders hire him
signed*
aye, gotcha
yes
He played support on Stone Templars though
no
Winghaven on tank
he was dps on Stone Templars
talk about throwing
oh, and team USA probably going to have Rawkus and JAKE
this groups are so stacked
both of the picks are kind of iffy but what do I know about it
the winner of group D will play against the group of Sweeden
so
Spain will struggle a lot to get Blizzcon
inb4 NRG
which team needs aggressive DPS? Selfless already got a hold of Carpe
how do you know that ยฟ?0
sopti just posted it ffs
fury was dps in RG WINGยฟ?
he was offtank but play dps too when they run 3dps comp
Zarya is pretty garbage in this meta
And Liquid already have a great D.Va who can play Pharah and Widow
and Talespin as sub
The only reason I can see Fury going to Liquid is because ID is leaving the team for whatever reason
going back to Quake 
He was like a T2 quake player
Dahang, Rapha were considered to be legend at Quake
Rapha especially.
it is pretty fun
i should play it too
after i finalizing my DPI change though
@toxic yacht that thumbnail 
Some thoughts on Dafran's behaviour in the context of Danish humour.
can someone help me understand what he answered? https://clips.twitch.tv/BrightAgileBibimbapUWot

MAYDAY
What's May day?
big ass patch for a Rein fix
๐ค PTR Patch Later ๐ค
im not a rein main so idk if they fixed it
I was about to post that tweet
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ffs after I waste my time to scrape the song manually

im lazy can someone tell me the time for the na worldcup teams 
.-.
3h15m
in 3 hours or something
3h17m*
cheers
love
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1am on a thursday 
summer holidays 
why wont an na event featuring na teams cater to our timezones 
Can we get player icons of our favorite teams tho?

nrg lel

lul


apex music is best music https://open.spotify.com/album/4zJnD2LAR3FVAanUW4FCFp
1.5 hours

annouuncement in a half hour match shortly after
jfc people
Polo pls
;_;
dont cry Sulli bb
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Jake/Sinatraa/Hyped/FCTFTN/Rawkus/Dahang 
Harb?
what twitch channel will stream the showmatchยฟ?
ty
Harbleu on Team USA
I feel the god of throwing is upon Team USA with that
MESR, DaHanG and Adam
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At least 50% of the team is good
Canada is probably better though so rip
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Emongg ResidentSleeper
LUL
better Hog, while can also flex better than him in triple DPS circimstances.
Harbleu's Tracer is throwing material
and Hog might just get the business next patch
so yeah
what group USA haveยฟ?
they had lucky
^
Taiwan and Brazil might beat Team USA tbh
Taiwan can send Flash Wolves
while Brazil can send BGE
Flash Wolves are apparently the goat, though we can't know for sure until they play internationally
yes
Yup
I mean
I've not watched many matches, just some clips and the standings
But they're apparently really good mechanically atleast
given the progress at OPC
they are definitely LAN tested
which is more than anyone in Team USA can say
half of the team is experienced at LAN
of course, this is assuming that the leak is real
which i don't think it is
and also
why are they playing outside
no shade
USA should be able to beat Brazil
i dont think Brazil can win USA even with the full roster
WHOSE MANS

Reeeeeeeeeeeeee
ResidentSleeper Dafran ResidentSleeper didn't ResidentSleeper go ResidentSleeper down ResidentSleeper for ResidentSleeper this ResidentSleeper

Freddie Prinze Jr confirmed for Team USA
My dad died for this
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Fucking end me already
Injustice 2 is cool tho
Sulli pls
^^^^^^^
finally
time to be disappointed
can they take any longer
Sinatra is on it 100%
good thing I didn't make a reddit thread yet
omg chat is a shitfest lol
Sinatraa and JAKE as team USA DPS
well, time to pack your bag early
because Team USA is kind of shit
@supple nymph 
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jebaited
It was all a ruse
MegaJebaited
This is fine ๐

I actually came in a rush from the office thinking I was gonna miss it
i was thinking about buying injustice but i dont think i will after this
this announcement has the same future than NRG new roster
@thorn holly tfw Team USA flunked out of Group stage
nah, they can win Brazil "easily"
but they are going to suck some taiwanesses dicks
Blizzard cannot make even a fucking showmatch
MSI 
couldn't they just show highlights from semi finals and a final? jesus christ




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