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clever wagon
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Thanks for the podcast btw

short vault
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wtf is throw4dafran

balmy wolf
jovial eagle
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so you're saying

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im better than a pro

clever wagon
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4 days old but this is fucking crazy how S4 is the top first kills for Pharah and S76 and only 2nd for Tracer

forest raven
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Surefour is kinda good at this game

clever wagon
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Yeah I guess

blazing parrot
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now its everyone and teammates shits on dafran

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lol thats great

balmy wolf
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i mean, yeah?

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you reap what you sow

blazing parrot
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exactly what he said (;

clever wagon
glad chasm
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Apex today or do they take any time off between group and top 8?

forest raven
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APEX today

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EnVy vs X6 and LWB vs CONBOX (again)

jovial eagle
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We have found that Dafran, from Overwatch Contenders team Selfless, has violated Rule 7.0 (Conduct) of the Overwatch Contenders Ruleset, which states the following:

All competitors and spectators are required to act in a respectful sportsmanlike manner at all times.

Due to this violation, as of June 8, Blizzard will suspend Dafran’s access to his current Overwatch accounts for one week, and from Competitive Play for the remainder of Season 5. Further, Dafran is disqualified from Overwatch Contenders Season Zero, will not be eligible for Overwatch Contenders Season One, and is disqualified from all future Blizzard-sanctioned tournament play for the duration of this competitive season. Dafran’s Overwatch Contenders team is still eligible to compete with a substitute.

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get fucked

clever wagon
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Yes we've all read that

glad chasm
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What's the brief tldr version of what he did to get that kind of penalty?

clever wagon
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Throwing games and streaming it.

frank frigate
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@clever wagon yo thanks!

clever wagon
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Yw!

jovial eagle
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probably should make an example of him

stray grove
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Hey, does anyone know of some open Overwatch tournaments? I've found Academy Gaming, and they offer tournaments on a weekly basis, but I'm wondering if there are any more. Trying to get my feet wet in the competitive scene. Thanks!

balmy wolf
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Good Gaming

stray grove
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^ I checked them out too, but I only found Hearthstone and Gwent tournaments.

balmy wolf
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Good Gaming does have OW weekly

stray grove
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Where can I find it? It isn't on the tournaments section of their site

balmy wolf
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you didn't search, clearly

red anvil
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Wonderful news to wake up to sephiLove

clever wagon
rapid oxide
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Tim imo

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inb4 seagull

balmy wolf
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lol

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I thought you were taken a leave of absence

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he smoked how many fucking Camels there?

toxic yacht
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mfw I haven't seen dafran's face yet and also won't because he's been bent

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I wanna see the man behind the aim

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(and idiocy)

balmy wolf
feral solar
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is the nV game first tonight?

balmy wolf
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yeah

feral solar
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thanks!

red anvil
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3 hours aint it?

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group A is boring af tho

balmy wolf
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2

short vault
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dude

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was dafran high

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what happened to him

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did he just want to throw because why not

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pls explain i have so many questions lmao

balmy wolf
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beats me

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he doesnt give a shit about himself and his career

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so he decides to throw

short vault
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he got removed from pro team?

balmy wolf
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benched.

short vault
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and did he throw on his main

balmy wolf
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on stream.

short vault
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ok whyd he decide to throw

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for fun?

wary falcon
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He has issues

red anvil
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Mental issues most likely

short vault
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wot

red anvil
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No sane person would start throwing their career like a shitbucket like that

short vault
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"well if he retires from pro ow might as well try baseball. never seen anyone throw this hard before"

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LUUL

red anvil
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At least hes taking the consequences properly

iron mauve
short vault
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yeah

wary falcon
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"well if he retires from pro ow might as well try baseball. never seen anyone throw this hard before"

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iBUYPOWER? fxy0?

short vault
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what

wary falcon
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fxy0 was top-3 french player and top-2 awper

gentle shuttle
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Does taking the consequences properly mean, not making a smurf

wary falcon
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but was permanently banned for $70

short vault
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is it allowed to smurf and circumvent a ban

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like that

gentle shuttle
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Was just curious as to what to could've meant by that

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I don't see him not doing just that

red anvil
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If he's smart he takes a break from OW and gets his life on track

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and seems selfless is helping him to do that so thats good

wary falcon
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How he can get his life on track without money

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He needs help

gentle shuttle
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Been talking to this to a few non-eat sports-privy people who play the game and they think this is all a huge over reaction

wary falcon
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also most suprising fact

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Why Selfless didn't stop him

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He streamed for a 6 hours?

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Where is their PR

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w t f

red anvil
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Well the mental issues he can get help by the danish health services

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and he got enough income to live on from twitch i assume

gentle shuttle
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I mean

balmy wolf
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part of the blame of this had to be also on the r/compow mods

gentle shuttle
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Is it actually that deep

balmy wolf
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if they didn't want to "suppress the reaction of information"

gentle shuttle
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About the mental issues

balmy wolf
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the dumpster fire wouldnt be a forest fire

red anvil
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From what i read from Selfless offical statement on it

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it appears to be

wary falcon
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you mean this stupid "no witchhunt" rule?

balmy wolf
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yeah

gentle shuttle
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Lol yeah well

wary falcon
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i remember when i got like 100 or 150 downvotes after iBP - Netcodes match

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for being witch hunter

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D:

balmy wolf
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they stupidly deleted three threads on it, The Entire Eurozone decided to fight fire with fire, and disgruntled users decided to vent their shit elsewhere

red anvil
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Well it had nothing to do with the cow subreddit, but i think it's a horrible rule

balmy wolf
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AND IT GOT NOTICED

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GG, r/compow MODS

red anvil
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in theory, if lets say taimou did something dirtbagy again, where would we read about the info?

balmy wolf
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do you even know the Streisands effects?

gentle shuttle
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ofc the statement is going to push that "dw he's just a dick because he has mental issues" angle

red anvil
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the post also said that he had issues that previously dident know about

gentle shuttle
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it makes the reader sympathetic towards him

red anvil
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so until other proof is laid forward i'm gone assume mental health issues

gentle shuttle
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idk you all would know his personality far better than me

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you could tell if he's just an asshole

balmy wolf
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it is not like Selfless had not told him to stop his shit

gentle shuttle
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or there is something up

balmy wolf
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so i mean

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he reap what he sow

red anvil
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well he can still be an asshole with mental issues

clever wagon
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Next I want to watch Reddit experts going up in arms and gung ho about one tricks that suck dicks, can I hope for that

gentle shuttle
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but the way i see it, he's just a typical, young, toxic onine gamer. Shit happens

red anvil
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well hes 23 so

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he kinda loses that excuse

clever wagon
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I mean if you ask me one tricks sucking dicks has been around even before Selfless got popular, and it has plagued way more games than Dafran himself could ever affect as a single person thenkeng

wary falcon
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ReignWolf
it is not like Selfless had not told him to stop his shit

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they needed to shut down his stream

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and fine him

narrow sphinx
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He didnt want
he didnt follow the rules anymore

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In a spiral of autodestruction

gentle shuttle
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he's a year younger than me rip

wary falcon
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He was in gamehouse?

gentle shuttle
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one of you guys said this happened to make an example out of him

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i agree with that

red anvil
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i mean that how could they not make a example out of him

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what he did was clearly against the rules, "everyone" knew

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i'm just kinda suprised that it took them that many hours to exactly decide what to do, if they did, this shitstorm would have somehow been avoided.

narrow sphinx
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The thing is
At this point is necessary to have psycological treatment

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He is obviously in a bad mental situation

wary falcon
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i still want to blame Selfless management

clever wagon
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(edited)
psycological
REEEE

rapid oxide
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@fiery meteor very well made app CirnoWink

clever wagon
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My inner grammar nazi has been successfully rustled

narrow sphinx
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Sorry if i dont have the best grammar, im not a native english speaker

red anvil
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i agree on the selfless management part, but they should have done it earlier then this stream

narrow sphinx
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Even twitch should have done something

red anvil
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they should have made him sit on the side for a couple weeks after threwing vs yikes

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to make it clear to him that he needs to change

wary falcon
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I think Selfless had ability to shut down scandal

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even after stream

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remember "death threats" in CS:GO?

red anvil
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never followed csgo, but i'm not suprised

wary falcon
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Make public statement, apologise, talk with player, hire specialist to help him

balmy wolf
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i mean

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even emongg was like "I can't do anything, man"

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they were kind of powerless to do anything, I think

wary falcon
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Really?

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He was their player

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or they just suck at speaking with people

balmy wolf
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you can only told someone that they need to get their shit together before you can only roll your eyes before him plunging to his doom.

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ideally, yes. The org should intervene right from the get go

wary falcon
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he is 23 yo kid

balmy wolf
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23 years olds ain't a kid anymore

wary falcon
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they failed to find a key to him

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manchild

balmy wolf
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it was happening too fast for any intervention to take over tbh

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24 hours

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and then you have the reddit mods who completely failed to contain the fire

red anvil
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They got a team house dont they?

balmy wolf
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they do.

red anvil
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then cut ethernet if they have to

balmy wolf
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easier to said than done when apparently their manager isn't living with them

wary falcon
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so Dafran was alone?

balmy wolf
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he was his teammates, but i mean, what can you do?

red anvil
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naw his team mates even took a picture of him throwing i think

balmy wolf
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put yourself in the shoes of his teammates

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ok, you told him to stop throwing

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and?

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he wouldn't stop

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what are you going to do? Fight him and wrangle his keyboard out of him?

wary falcon
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fite him

red anvil
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contact manager and ask him to make a decision

balmy wolf
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you can only do so much before one man's spiral of self destruction

wary falcon
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beat shit out of him

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D:

balmy wolf
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he is their star player too, btw

wary falcon
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call manager

balmy wolf
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which also doubly hard

red anvil
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i'm apparently a less aggrassive person then jackie

balmy wolf
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it is much easier to say from outside looking in

red anvil
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yeah sure

balmy wolf
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we don't know their internal culture, how they handle beef, etc etc

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we just assume that there's some sort of hierarchy within the team

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and someone with sense would talk to him

short vault
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how much sr did dafran lsoe

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wasnt he like #1

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when he started

wary falcon
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Secret - IG
EnvyUs - X6

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🤔

rapid oxide
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CAN'T pogchimp WAIT pogchimp TO pogchimp SEE pogchimp MY pogchimp BOI pogchimp TIMO pogchimp GETTING pogchimp FINED pogchimp BEFORE pogchimp APEX pogchimp END pogchimp

narrow sphinx
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He used his alt account

delicate sparrow
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why tf is lunatic hai playing KDP again

rapid oxide
delicate sparrow
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I wanna see KDP bully envyus

wary falcon
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wait what

delicate sparrow
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fake

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it's the thing for dafran

rapid oxide
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: )

wary falcon
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LH playing KDP

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again?

delicate sparrow
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yeah

wary falcon
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they were in same group

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LUL

delicate sparrow
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I just wanna see KDP knock AF blue or envy into lower bracket already

wary falcon
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KDP's last game was awful

delicate sparrow
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I'm betting it all on X6

wary falcon
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AFB are favourites

weak bloom
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RIP Dafran

delicate sparrow
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he deserved it

weak bloom
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of course he did

wary falcon
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hey stop with dafran and his drama

weak bloom
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Blizzard setting a good example

wary falcon
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let's talk about our boy Timo

weak bloom
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i welcome it

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there's so much more to being a pro than just being good at a game, a lot of these young kids need to learn that

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hope they get the proper guidence

delicate sparrow
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do you guys think I can still get a golden dafran jersey

vague eagle
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i heard this chat is cool

delicate sparrow
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you heard wrong

vague eagle
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i think so

forest raven
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wtf

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This chat is super cool

gentle shuttle
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the only OW chat worth being on in all of discord

forest raven
gentle shuttle
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🐷

delicate sparrow
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real talk tho this is the only channel on any ow discord that I've ever been a part of that I actively like

turbid slate
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I have a joke

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ready?

mint sky
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I'm not ready

gentle shuttle
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i wasn't kiddin btw

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lay it on us

turbid slate
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dafran

gentle shuttle
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lol

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that was p good

balmy wolf
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LAN

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@forest raven

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lul

forest raven
wary falcon
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it's the only active casual discord chat

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without pro or wanna-be-pro

balmy wolf
turbid slate
balmy wolf
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nV vs X6 soon

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time to warm up my food

feral solar
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i got pizza

forest raven
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Dude same @feral solar

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What kind

balmy wolf
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ive got nothing because i just woke up

forest raven
feral solar
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peri peri chicken

forest raven
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Ooh nice

feral solar
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oh the dafran lul spam is gonna be lit tonight

clever wagon
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It's the blue balls boys day todayyy

balmy wolf
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I'll be in the Overwatch Discussion voice channel if someone want to watch APEX With me lolz

feral solar
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chat needs to be more creative

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and make it rhyme

clever wagon
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FINLAND'S GIFT, THE WEST'S HOPE

balmy wolf
clever wagon
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KyKy still in the roster lineup 4Head

wary falcon
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joelz

toxic yacht
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the second one is better

cedar rain
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THROWING EVERY FIGHT 4Head HENTAI ON STREAM 4Head YES IM DAFRAN 4Head LOOKING FOR TEAM

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tHERE'S THIS ONE

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O wait I shoulda screenshotted it

glad chasm
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Chat is aids with the dafran spam

wary falcon
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oh no

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rip nv

cedar rain
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rip

glad chasm
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Wiped. Let's go x6!

balmy wolf
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Envy always starts slow

wary falcon
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Seems like i'm going to lose another 1.5K

balmy wolf
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and need a few minutes to get a pulse on their opponent

signal phoenix
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Whats the dafran meme

wary falcon
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no pls

cedar rain
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The supports just keep dying

wary falcon
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stop with dafran

signal phoenix
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Ahah

toxic yacht
glad chasm
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I gotta go full screen twitch chat is more aids than usual

toxic yacht
wary falcon
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I'm watching korean stream

cedar rain
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lul poor genji

wary falcon
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I don't like english casters

glad chasm
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Do you know korean?

clever wagon
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That was so BM

wary falcon
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Nope

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When i don't like casters

glad chasm
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Or are you just being a fuckin weeb

wary falcon
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I just mute them

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Or watch another if another casters are passionate

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This is why i watch brazilian cs:go stream sometimes

cedar rain
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Envy seems to be focusing the tanks

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And X-6 focus the supports

clever wagon
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With both DPS being hitscan, they have little option outside of taking both tanks first

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One has a dome barrier the other has DM

toxic yacht
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taimou throwing for his best friend dafran

balmy wolf
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this kind of reeks of Rogue picking nV season 1

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ironically

clever wagon
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Still too early to say

balmy wolf
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hence why i said just reeks so far

signal phoenix
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C9 OP

delicate sparrow
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envy losing control to a korean team is not super suprising tbh

toxic yacht
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effect feeding

wary falcon
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and then 2CP too?

balmy wolf
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yeah

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that's like 2 maps down

cedar rain
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Envy not looking good

feral solar
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control point is usually meh for them

clever wagon
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They have 0 support ults

feral solar
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not too worried yet

cedar rain
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chips carry

clever wagon
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And it's just koth

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Too early

cedar rain
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support carry

delicate sparrow
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I mean envy isn't rogue and x-6 isn't LH. it's not impossible for them to win 2cp

wary falcon
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And it's just koth

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and here is goes

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it's just 2cp

clever wagon
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Mickie why not disengage >.>

balmy wolf
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that was 3 NA ults right there

wary falcon
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Seems like 2:0

delicate sparrow
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mickie wanted 99%

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it wasn't too bad of a call

clever wagon
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Communication issues, again

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They literally didn't take notice of the Tracer

forest raven
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F A R M E D

glad chasm
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Leggo x6!

forest raven
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🕯 Chips 🕯

balmy wolf
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Taimou with the clutch pick.

sturdy granite
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Bebe is looking pretty good right now

clever wagon
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Enlighten the mind of this filthy shit of a plat here: why literally all west teams just stopped picking Roadhog

balmy wolf
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because ult battery for dive.

feral solar
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free tracer ults

wary falcon
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Roadhog is a bad pick currently

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against tracer

glad chasm
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Feeds ult and no mobility

delicate sparrow
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d.va can defense matrix every singly hook and consistently hooking genji/tracer is nearly impossible

wary falcon
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free 900 ulti charge

clever wagon
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But at the same time they seemingly take forever to CC the divers

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Whereas when Roadhog was still picked...

slender meadow
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BlessRNG nV

delicate sparrow
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when roadhog was still picked ana was god tier and triple tank was meta

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dive was really bad then

glad chasm
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Hog has no shield or mobility

clever wagon
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No lol

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@delicate sparrow

delicate sparrow
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yes lol

clever wagon
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He was still picked just a couple weeks back

wary falcon
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Roadhog was good in triple tank meta

clever wagon
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More than recently at least

delicate sparrow
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in western tourneys

balmy wolf
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you can actually dive with Hog, but the Hog have to be godly to get a pick every damn time he throw the hook

wary falcon
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He is still good against dive

delicate sparrow
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western tourneys aren't korea

wary falcon
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But you need to land your hooks 100% of time

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to be good against dive

glad chasm
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My man @balmy wolf with another questionable take

wary falcon
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most of the time you will be just free pulse bomb for enemy tracer

red anvil
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wat x6 beat envy in the first round?

balmy wolf
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"questionable take"

forest raven
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You play Roadhog, you give Timeboy/Sayaplayer/WhoRU/Birdring etc. pulse bomb in 10 seconds

balmy wolf
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explain.

delicate sparrow
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envy losing control to a korean team is expected

balmy wolf
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some teams has run Roadhog with dive before

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on KOTH

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and some maps like Numbani

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but it is like running McCree

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you are taking a risk

red anvil
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well envy losing to anyone but conbox and x6 is expected

glad chasm
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No they don't reign. Just stop.

balmy wolf
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if I can get a footage of it, would you shut up?

glad chasm
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No because you don't know shit.

clever wagon
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A lot of these teams still pick Roadhog occassionally just a couple weeks back lol

glad chasm
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Back to being blocked.

clever wagon
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Until recently

wary falcon
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how genji died to d.va ulti

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i don't understand

balmy wolf
clever wagon
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@glad chasm

wary falcon
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Hell yeah

feral solar
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effect and mickie

wary falcon
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this is nV i like

feral solar
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ez carry

balmy wolf
wary falcon
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time to become nv fangay one more time

glad chasm
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@clever wagon nice 1 match in a non apex tourney. You were the guy who asked why nobody plays hog to begin with lol

clever wagon
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I said until recently and you lack the basic reading capability

glad chasm
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@balmy wolf well shit what hammers esports does clearly defines the meta /s

wary falcon
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I remember hog in Apex

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Not sure it was this season or previous

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lul

clever wagon
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And I was asking because NV looks like they're having trouble with the DVa and Winston in KOTH

balmy wolf
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🤔

glad chasm
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Are you 2 the same person?

delicate sparrow
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western tourneys mean nothing if we're talking korean tourneys. they've been running different shit for ages

glad chasm
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Legit just copypasta each other twice now

balmy wolf
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this is some borderline goalpost moving shits

forest raven
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Oh my god

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Effect

glad chasm
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@delicate sparrow thank you!

red anvil
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Effect is carrying like hell

wary falcon
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Yeah

clever wagon
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Because you said you blocked him so I might just as well relay the message, the bonus being annoying you even more

feral solar
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THE TRACKING

balmy wolf
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@delicate sparrow he never really specify "which tournament" either

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so

forest raven
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tfw 1 Korean outplays 6 Koreans

cedar rain
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The payload just kept moving even when envy lost members

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Wao

clever wagon
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Wow, are we back to Korean superiority complex now?

delicate sparrow
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told u guys envy is just garbo at control

clever wagon
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Haha

glad chasm
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@clever wagon well you're a self proclaimed shit kid that asked why Koreans aren't playing hog and then used a western match as a reference point of hog still being meta viable

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There's really nothing else to say there

wary falcon
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jag
told u guys envy is just garbo at control

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this is quite weird

clever wagon
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Even with X6 who's still struggling below the levels of AF, LH, LWB?

wary falcon
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if nV wants to win whole thing they need to win KOTH against teams like x6 with ease

balmy wolf
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and lol at Hog being in dive = meta viable

clever wagon
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@glad chasm fucking hell I already said earlier it's because NV was struggling around X6's DVa and Winston I asked the question, that's not enough to infer that was for NV?

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Jesus

balmy wolf
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it is a stylistic choice, you retard

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Hog is suboptimal pick in this meta

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people runs it only for either a. comfort pick or b. a risk that people can take

wary falcon
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hog in same tier as mccree

clever wagon
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What a smartass

delicate sparrow
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I have no idea what's happening in this argument anymore

wary falcon
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just return to watch Apex

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this is fine

cedar rain
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What even happened

feral solar
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lol

forest raven
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How about

cedar rain
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Taimou vs Timeboy and tehn suddenly 3 people are dead

forest raven
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We don't call each other retards or smartasses

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And enjoy the game

velvet scarab
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worst ult ive seen all tournament

feral solar
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it surely is in that list

delicate sparrow
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what is this flank

balmy wolf
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Cocco looks more comfortable on Winston

feral solar
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but there's been a few ults like tha t

glad chasm
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@clever wagon nv is playing based on kr meta obviously, the fuck don't you get about that? Other guy saying hog is a dive pick is still just fucking LUL. You 2 kids...

balmy wolf
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Taimou with the NA ult

forest raven
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I said

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Can we not

balmy wolf
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I clearly said that it is a risky pick in this meta but somehow it turned into "hog is a dive pick"

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ok....

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moving on

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nV is getting their ass raped now.

feral solar
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i think cocco needs to rein

#

i dont like his winston

glad chasm
#

There's always that 1 moron that has shitty takes and talks way too much. Reignwolf is that guy.

forest raven
#

Last warning

#

Take this to PM's if you want to continue it

clever wagon
#

This turns out to be a back and forth game.

wary falcon
#

taimou looks bad

balmy wolf
#

Taimou ulted while D.va still up

#

like wut

wary falcon
#

hoping for cocco's rein

delicate sparrow
#

cocco should really adopt the whole korean thing of swapping to rein for last point

balmy wolf
#

he has ult

#

which is why i assume he keep it

#

Cocco's rein is infinitely better than his Winston though

cedar rain
#

Not a good game for tach visors

balmy wolf
#

hell, Mickey is the best Winston in nV for whatever reason

#

EFFECT

#

c'mon

feral solar
#

x6 should get it here with those ults but lets see

balmy wolf
#

what is what Transendance

#

and somehow they won that

cedar rain
#

solo ult lol

balmy wolf
#

and only Sound barrier for defense

#

nV is kind of shit out of luck right now

delicate sparrow
#

that's a pretty bad shatter for a team with no shields

cedar rain
#

Mickie is a very aggressive off tank

red anvil
#

LOL

feral solar
#

hahaha

cedar rain
#

Bastion wut

red anvil
#

BASTION

wary falcon
#

?

forest raven
#

Harry fucked the team there

kindred kiln
#

nice try,bastion

forest raven
#

Wasted barrier

delicate sparrow
#

I mean overtime and envy has 3 minutes left. I wouldn't say that was bad

red anvil
#

yeah envy got this

#

no doubt

feral solar
#

its not bad but they could have done a better job holding that

red anvil
#

but still he could have meied to stall

feral solar
#

that barrier was not good

forest raven
#

Those last two fights were real na

#

So many wasted ults

balmy wolf
#

you know, Taimou during Takeover 2 was critizing EU teams for their reckless ult usage

#

and now nV using ults as if it is leaves fall out of a tree

#

can't escape your roots, I guess

cedar rain
#

lul

forest raven
#

lol

balmy wolf
#

nV just need to regroup and re engage

cedar rain
#

Nvm that

toxic yacht
#

taimou had like, 20 hp

#

lul

cedar rain
#

And Mickie somehow stayed alive through all that

#

Wow

delicate sparrow
#

this feels like it'll go the full 5

feral solar
#

ad time 😴

toxic yacht
#

you know, if this at least was a selfless match

#

I'd be fine with the chat

balmy wolf
#

what can we say now

#

Dafran is a cult of personality

#

for better or for worst

#

X6 is giving nV a fight though

#

which is funny because Taimou said that they are easier to prepare vs Conbox

cedar rain
#

So much for EZ game

balmy wolf
#

these things always come back to bite people in the ass

#

OW trash talks never goes well

cedar rain
#

And then it becomes a meme

wary falcon
#

Do you know LiL from Dota 2?

#

He trash talks a lot

#

and fails every time

#

D:

cedar rain
#

apex is back

#

Time to watch

feral solar
cedar rain
#

lul

feral solar
#

sombra time boyz

cedar rain
#

Let

delicate sparrow
#

chips sombra

#

pls

wary falcon
#

So Anubis, 2nd point, Sombra

#

(

cedar rain
#

No sombra in sight yet

#

2nd point mebbe

#

Widow

balmy wolf
#

LW Blue comp huh

sturdy granite
#

Yo, X6 bringing out Meta Athena strats

cedar rain
#

oh my,

feral solar
#

demmm

#

lets see how this goes

delicate sparrow
#

this is going to fail 2nd push

balmy wolf
#

not Meta Athena. A variation on LW Blue strats

feral solar
#

they are putting a lot of pressure on the widow

cedar rain
#

Double widow

#

Taimou sombra

#

Effect has ridiculous recalls

balmy wolf
#

X6 playing the "protect the Widow" comp

#

ironically

#

X6's Tracer and Winston is actually doing very well

#

instead of the Widow

forest raven
#

Holy fuck Nosmite

#

He is fucking fragging

balmy wolf
#

REZ

#

oh lolz

feral solar
#

MICKIE

delicate sparrow
#

nosmite saved that point so many times

kindred kiln
#

finally,that took way too long

balmy wolf
#

no Sombra for point 2 defense

cedar rain
#

Mccree

balmy wolf
#

and he got melted lolz

cedar rain
#

Haven't seen that one in awhile

delicate sparrow
#

no sombra for defense makes sense. if taimou gets the big healthpack first sombra is basically a dead pick

balmy wolf
#

they have better spawn though

#

which mean that they can hack it quicker

#

but now i don't think that last push was that economical

delicate sparrow
#

jesus

feral solar
#

OMGGG

balmy wolf
#

MICKIE

cedar rain
#

Mickie wtf

kindred kiln
#

WOAH

balmy wolf
#

Roadhog???

forest raven
#

OH MY GOD MICKIE

#

STILL CARRYING ENVY TWO SEASONS LATER

feral solar
#

season 1 vibes

cedar rain
#

Mickie dva god

sturdy granite
#

legit C9

final river
#

damn I missed the first two maps, were they competitive?

balmy wolf
#

1-1 for now

#

X6 is putting up a fight

#

and also, Roadhog in APEX lol

final river
#

thnx

balmy wolf
#

so somebody better ping @glad chasm

red anvil
#

2 - 1 incoming to envy :p

delicate sparrow
#

where did these talespin memes come from

#

WHY

cedar rain
#

Wasted ult

balmy wolf
#

NA visor

feral solar
#

why

cedar rain
#

This game has horrible visors

balmy wolf
#

Taimou with the EU visors

#

so much for proper ult management

delicate sparrow
#

he shouldn't have even been there. let alone ulting

cedar rain
#

Actually that was Harryhook

#

Taimou was sombra

balmy wolf
#

REAPER

cedar rain
#

Talon comp

feral solar
#

i think he was gonna switch so they used it anyway

balmy wolf
#

that's kind of worst tbh

#

Taimou and Hook with the EU visors

feral solar
#

yehh agreed

final river
#

Point B, GodsB's specialty

balmy wolf
#

C9'd?

sturdy granite
#

yep

balmy wolf
#

Envy must really like their pick now

crisp lynx
#

X6 win 2CP without sombra.

delicate sparrow
#

harry really needed that visor

feral solar
#

i think nv needs to play their usual comp

#

on defence

balmy wolf
#

easier opponent, Taimou said. It will be better, Taimou said.

cedar rain
#

Well if nothing else we got to see some interesting comps

forest raven
#

Western teams still proving that they get rolled on 2cp by any Korean team worth their salt flmGood

smoky hinge
#

Not rolled, I mean round one Envy went crazy

kindred kiln
#

so,they decided to commit to protect widow even more,with orisa?

red anvil
#

And X6 is what envy picked as #1

balmy wolf
#

they ran that first time

final river
#

Idon't think I've seen this kind of defense point a before

forest raven
#

EnVy didn't cap 1st until about a minute left

smoky hinge
#

deja vu, with the widow orisa strat

wary falcon
#

Meta Athena used this strat

#

i think

smoky hinge
#

Haven't seen much of Meta Athena

balmy wolf
#

it is a variation on the LW BLue comp

#

just add Orisa and subtract Reinhardt

delicate sparrow
#

envy really needs a genji player

balmy wolf
#

well EFFECT is one

#

but his Tracer is soo good

wary falcon
#

Effect is good genji

balmy wolf
#

so hands tied

wary falcon
#

And i don' think envy needs genji

red anvil
#

well they would have to bench taimou

smoky hinge
#

They don't really need a dedicated genji

wary falcon
#

they don't have players to replace

red anvil
#

effect gives way effect then taimou

final river
#

Imagine Taimou on Lucio

smoky hinge
#

Plus, effect and Taimou

balmy wolf
#

I mean it is not like they had someone who can sub in before or anything.........

red anvil
#

pun not inteded

balmy wolf
#

this is all in for nV now

#

the timing seems off

smoky hinge
#

Was it alarm on sombra? when it was BK stars vs Meta Athena

final river
#

uh oh for envy

balmy wolf
#

nV and 2CP

delicate sparrow
#

okay THAT was a c9

balmy wolf
#

sigh

smoky hinge
#

that was fucking insane

toxic yacht
#

yee, alarm was on sombra

smoky hinge
#

lmao c9

balmy wolf
#

Cocco needs to be on Rein

#

his Winston had been improved but his Rein is so good that it seems off to not use it

sturdy granite
#

every round on Anubis so far has emded with a C9

balmy wolf
#

Cocco NotLikeSoldier

wary falcon
#

huge misplay by cocco

balmy wolf
#

just when I said his Winston improved

final river
#

big trouble now

balmy wolf
#

2-2 incoming

delicate sparrow
#

yeah this is pretty much done

balmy wolf
#

Taimou better get some fucking harsh words by KyKy for picking X6

#

win or lose

wary falcon
#

Roadhog

balmy wolf
#

pinging my man @glad chasm again

sturdy granite
#

the pig is out of the pen

wary falcon
#

Not sure they picked hog

#

why

#

Mccree now

final river
#

How does cocco get teh healing he needs with only lucy

wary falcon
sturdy granite
#

MCCREE AND REAPER IN 2K17

red anvil
#

HOLY

#

CLOSE

delicate sparrow
#

that was literally like .1% away

sturdy granite
#

DEATHBLOSSOM + EMP IS THE PLAN

balmy wolf
#

3 team fights left for X6

sturdy granite
#

really like 1 good one

balmy wolf
#

so who will get EMP first

delicate sparrow
#

it really does feel like chips has a better sombra than taimou

wary falcon
#

rememember when X6 pushed though left side every time?

#

on anubis

balmy wolf
#

Chips had a OTP Sombra alt

#

so yeah

#

nV got this somehow

final river
#

they should hold this now

#

sick

balmy wolf
#

BO1 KOTH then?

delicate sparrow
#

unless the decider is oasis university this is probably decided

balmy wolf
#

I'm having flashback of Misfits vs Lunatic Hai during IEM Gyoenggi now

#

Taimou putting on his carry pants

smoky hinge
#

Taimou isn't hitting much tho lmao

balmy wolf
#

....and he hit like 2 right after

smoky hinge
#

lmao

delicate sparrow
#

it's the esca effect

balmy wolf
#

we are just reverse caster curse nV now aren't we

delicate sparrow
#

just having a widow is enough sometimes

smoky hinge
#

effect is going fucking crazy rn tho

balmy wolf
#

Mickie doing Kaiser tech

wary falcon
#

ehm

#

why koth?

#

decider?

red anvil
#

yeah tiebreaker

velvet scarab
#

taimou god

red anvil
#

1 map decides victory

final river
#

rip

delicate sparrow
#

carryhook

red anvil
#

bleh X6 deserved this one

final river
#

dva ledge ult

delicate sparrow
#

nv probably wins next round

wary falcon
#

They didn't deserve

forest raven
#

No matter who wins this series

#

AFB is gonna dunk on them

feral solar
#

yep

wary falcon
#

AFB is gonna dunk on them

#

Lmao

red anvil
#

well yeah if Envy is strugling so much with X6

wary falcon
#

my boy thighmou will rekt them

feral solar
#

next week's matches are gonna be hype

#

cant wait

red anvil
#

what about the top 3 teams that are in the other bracket

#

i'm just sad that all 3 of them cant go to quarters

sturdy granite
#

I'm hoping for a CS upset

balmy wolf
#

I just want LH to be out

#

just so that the APEX curse lives

toxic yacht
#

dorado vs envuys

#

do they want to lose?

delicate sparrow
#

is there a single payload map nv won't dunk on x6 on?

forest raven
#

66

balmy wolf
#

nV lives in Gilbraltar, so bad pick

toxic yacht
#

lul, the ass shot

smoky hinge
#

lol

toxic yacht
#

wtf

#

???

balmy wolf
#

Junkrat??

delicate sparrow
#

yeah they wanna lose

balmy wolf
#

UM???

smoky hinge
#

attack junk

red anvil
#

JUNKRAT ON ATTACK WUT

#

I LIKE X6 NOW!

toxic yacht
#

??????

forest raven
#

LETS GO X6

#

WIN IT

velvet scarab
#

junkrat smh

sturdy granite
#

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

toxic yacht
#

they're gonna swap after first

#

anyway

red anvil
#

LOL WUT

feral solar
#

hahahaha

forest raven
#

LOOOOL

toxic yacht
#

lul, tilted pause

feral solar
#

OFC

sturdy granite
#

Envyus is Bamboozled

red anvil
#

THE GAME IS BROKE, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT HERO BEFORE!

delicate sparrow
#

apex staff has to step in. x6 didn't know junkrat is banned

toxic yacht
#

STILL?

delicate sparrow
#

this is the first time I've seen junkrat in a tourney since uh

#

atlantic showdown I think

feral solar
#

as a gold player this makes me happy

#

thats what happens in my rank

balmy wolf
#

nah, there are some instances of Junkrat post Atlantic Showdown before

kindred kiln
#

there was a junkrat in one of takeover 2 matches

wary falcon
#

hey what is this hero

kindred kiln
#

was it Rogue?

crisp lynx
#

misfits

wary falcon
#

i never seen him before

#

new hero hype

kindred kiln
#

oh right,probably

red anvil
#

no way rogue would never play junkrat

balmy wolf
#

Rogue ran Junkrat before

toxic yacht
#

...

red anvil
#

rogue flexing, in what world

balmy wolf
#

Tviq on him.

crisp lynx
#

misfits nevix used it

toxic yacht
#

tviq ran a ton of junkrat

#

back in his rogue days

#

seagull too

balmy wolf
#

WHAT IS GOING ON

toxic yacht
#

nevix ran it a bunch

red anvil
#

yes but that was longggg ago 😄

toxic yacht
#

mangachu

#

during the OMM

crisp lynx
#

new champ crash apex

toxic yacht
#

like, 3 months ago

forest raven
#

They're actually rolling

toxic yacht
#

@balmy wolf nv getting fucked by a junkrat

red anvil
#

long ago!

toxic yacht
#

lul

narrow sphinx
#

long time ago its 3 months?
That's going fast

forest raven
#

Holy fuck

#

BAHAHAHA

red anvil
#

i appriciate this junkrat so much

balmy wolf
#

Why is Mickie not goingg zayra

wary falcon
#

why they picked pharah without jetpack

toxic yacht
#

...

balmy wolf
#

Holy shit

wary falcon
#

🤔

toxic yacht
#

dude

balmy wolf
#

Taimou on Mei

toxic yacht
#

holy fuck

feral solar
#

finally

balmy wolf
#

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

toxic yacht
#

lmfao

crisp lynx
#

junkrat want swap

feral solar
#

they won a fight

forest raven
#

That was just

#

Total dominance

smoky hinge
#

three and a half mins left

toxic yacht
#

well

smoky hinge
#

envy is fckd

toxic yacht
#

now we know why they picked dorado

balmy wolf
#

Taimou: "X6 is easier to prepare because they don't run random shit"
X6: "hold my beer"

delicate sparrow
#

were the gold players right this whole time?

red anvil
#

geez

toxic yacht
#

I thought that they wanted to lose

#

lul

crisp lynx
#

LUL nV's new kryptonite is junkrat

final river
#

I root for envy but that was a pretty sick and innovative performance

balmy wolf
#

the fact that Mickie didn't pick Zarya is a Thinkong

forest raven
#

taimouC 🔫 JunkT

kindred kiln
#

i expect a huge influx of junkrat in comp matches this week

balmy wolf
#

and of course, Taimou trash talk backfired on him again

feral solar
#

yeah they should have gone zarya or pharah

delicate sparrow
#

yep

crisp lynx
#

actually junkrat is good against tracer

velvet scarab
final river
#

hard to root against x6 after they made junkrat work on attack

delicate sparrow
#

nv can't really play zarya or pharah

red anvil
#

worst part if envy dident 0.1 save themself, x6 could win here

toxic yacht
#

So much TaimCree

forest raven
#

I don't give a fuck anymore

#

No point in cheering for western teams in APEX LUL

balmy wolf
#

@clever wagon Taimou on Hog

#

with dive

feral solar
#

aw draw theres still hope

delicate sparrow
#

triple tank vs triple tank

balmy wolf
#

also @glad chasm

smoky hinge
#

I just googled dafran and found out why people kept on spamming him lol

#

he was streaming nekopara last night right?

iron cedar
#

triple tank with lucio/zen
🤔

delicate sparrow
#

the hog is being played in place of the soldier, not the d.va

#

so it's a lil different

kindred kiln
#

its more about him hard throwing @smoky hinge

balmy wolf
#

@iron cedar it is more common than you might think

#

it is very aggressive though

smoky hinge
#

o shit lol

#

and dafran is being a piece of shit about it

kindred kiln
#

but yeah, streaming nekopara was probably an extra fuel

iron cedar
#

Oh no is spamming Dafran the new C9?

clever wagon
#

Ok

wary falcon
#

I just googled dafran

#

you forgot Wut Face

smoky hinge
#

I was out like all day

#

I didn't hear shit lmao

wary falcon
#

i mean

clever wagon
#

Effect... has good tracking

cedar rain
#

chips nuu

forest raven
#

EnVy fucked by their inability to play triple deeps

#

Again

#

lol

wary falcon
#

it's like meme from dota: "i googled <heroname> of <player name>"

balmy wolf
#

"X6 is an easier opponent" - Taimou

#

famous last words

red anvil
#

well its maybe true

#

but there gone have hell with the rest of the teams

delicate sparrow
#

I mean

feral solar
#

i think chips has died first every fight

delicate sparrow
#

did anyone actually expect envy to win the entire tourney

#

or even make it to finals

cedar rain
#

Not really, no

kindred kiln
#

i hoped for envy to get into round of 4 in best case

red anvil
#

Well there in a pretty easy group so thats still possible

balmy wolf
#

this is what happened when you get past an easy group and now it is RO8

red anvil
#

given that they can win this

iron cedar
#

Effect
pogchimp

cedar rain
#

How the fuck does Mickie consistently get self destruct kills

clever wagon
#

Still not as consistent as Hymzi I think

#

That guy always gets at least 1

balmy wolf
#

Hymzi's D.va was lowkey carrying NIP

#

during their shit stint at Takeover 2

red anvil
#

effect carrying

sturdy granite
#

CHIPS is a god

clever wagon
#

NV badly needs a projectile aaargh

delicate sparrow
#

remember when taimou used to carry this team

#

instead of chips and effect

balmy wolf
#

Cocco keep dying

forest raven
#

LETS GO X6

cedar rain
#

Game number 5

#

woh.

forest raven
red anvil
#

phewww

#

Yay x6 :d

iron cedar
balmy wolf
#

Taimou: "X6 is easier opponent because they are not random"

wary falcon
#

So 2-2?

red anvil
#

yup

balmy wolf
#

Kyky with the tactical pause

delicate sparrow
#

hi kyky

clever wagon
#

Gotta wonder why either of the west's growth still isn't as quick as these Korean teams even with the Korean bootcamp/Apex left and right

sturdy granite
#

Honestly, Chips Sombra and Effects Tracer work so well together

forest raven
#

Korea has the infrastructure and culture

#

Esports has been on national TV for over a decade

iron cedar
#

^

delicate sparrow
#

effect is in a weirdly good mood considering how much pressure he might be under rn

balmy wolf
#

and also the format is favorable to teams with better infrastructure. And which region have the best infrastructure?

#

you have time to really prepare for your oppnent

clever wagon
#

It's difficult

balmy wolf
#

mind you, the West is more meta slave because they don't have any long running event

amber ember
#

score of the nv game?

clever wagon
#

Right, then there was that scrim bullshit thing happening

balmy wolf
#

most of the Western events are tournaments

crisp lynx
#

2-2

cedar rain
#

2-2 rn

balmy wolf
#

and those only like 4 days at most

amber ember
balmy wolf
#

@amber ember 2 words: attack Junkrat

amber ember
#

x6 playing well or nv throwing?

red anvil
#

x6 playing insane

balmy wolf
#

X6 smashed nV on Dorado via attack Junkrat

delicate sparrow
#

x6 is doing really well

amber ember
#

wtf

crisp lynx
#

i think nV didnt throw

red anvil
#

they had 4.10 left on dorado attack

balmy wolf
#

I'm lowkey hoping nV get rekt now

#

just so that the meme can flows

cedar rain
#

Hollywood though

crisp lynx
#

die for meme

balmy wolf
#

Taimou mocked Takeover 2 teams for playing their ults sloppily

cedar rain
#

Maybe they'll attack junkrat again

balmy wolf
#

and nV ult management have been absolutely shite

clever wagon
#

It's easy to see flaws in others, it's another thing to manage your own team to reach that desired point

cedar rain
#

NotLikeThis

clever wagon
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cedar rain
#

Cocco on rein now

balmy wolf
#

finally

#

fucking hell, Torb?

delicate sparrow
#

really feel like junkrat will be coming back out. which is bad for envy

cedar rain
#

Junkrat incoming

sturdy granite
#

not sure how I feel about 2 supports, sombra, and torb

cedar rain
#

They played torb against what, BK stars?

balmy wolf
#

it is not like nV has a Zarya player or something

#

lolz

cedar rain
#

Ah no junkrat

clever wagon
#

Sooo it's back to square one

balmy wolf
#

no Lucio comp

#

lololol

pine star
#

Is nV struggling?

sturdy granite
#

Honestly, I think Junk would work well in this scenario

red anvil
#

harry on s76 at least

balmy wolf
#

@pine star they just got rekt via attack Junkrat

#

so yeah

red anvil
#

i'll give envy thumbs up for flexing

#

envy is holding holylwood really well

pine star
#

WaitWhat attack what now?

delicate sparrow
#

holding this long is big for envy's comp

clever wagon
#

EFFECT picking from all the unexpected places

balmy wolf
#

@pine star just watch the vod during Dorado

#

just.....attack Junkrat

pine star
#

Oh shiet

balmy wolf
#

nV finally just let their inner rage loose with all these comfort picks.

pine star
#

What map is it rn?

clever wagon
#

Just a little more than 1 min

sturdy granite
#

Envy doesnt have dva, and junk eats torb and rein alive. If it worked ealier, why not try it

red anvil
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envy might be able to do a full hold here though

clever wagon
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Hollywod

red anvil
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nvm

balmy wolf
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......full hold you said?

delicate sparrow
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that's. really bad

red anvil
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NVM

balmy wolf
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lol

clever wagon
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Snowballed 4Head

red anvil
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i tabbed back and forward and 4 people dead

sturdy granite
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I blinked and missed it

delicate sparrow
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harry shouldn't have used tac last push