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sturdy granite
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Anybody keeping track of the match time on that one?

balmy wolf
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barely an hour

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that's including break.

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an hour is usually a time for a 2-1 BO3 to play out

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so it is right on time

sturdy granite
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I meant the attack

red anvil
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now i'm curious to see the groups play 2 >_>

balmy wolf
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well, this is Uncia's last stand

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they either going to pull a Mighty AOD

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or they going to pull a RG Wings

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it'd be fascinating to watch either way

red anvil
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If they pull a mighty AOD i'm gone be seriously suprised

balmy wolf
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I mean it could happen.

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Uncia on paper still have a very strong roster

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even if their carry are at Panthera now

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too bad those carry doesn't mean shit when mental-wise your team is as strong as wet weeabix

red anvil
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it'll be interesting to see lucid take on his old team at least

balmy wolf
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I want to play esport in KR once

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so many fangirls over there

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and even if you are a shit team

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you'd get fangirls lol

red anvil
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Well your not on a shit team if your in apex

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your just on a more shit team then the best teams in apex

balmy wolf
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like this season the only team that got into playoff from challengers was X6

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the rest is going back to superweek

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Team Overweight

glad chasm
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@red anvil yo tell that to flux

wary falcon
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hey how many people i need to register a team on owc?

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6 or 7?

red anvil
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Being the worst of the best dosent make you suck o3o

forest raven
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Uncia gonna to Challengers

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That's a big lul

red anvil
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Lol Orisa

supple nymph
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orisa/torb kingsrow?????

red anvil
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how the heck do they expect that to work

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Widow bam headshot orisa, almost dead orisa

supple nymph
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c9

sturdy granite
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B9

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@balmy wolf didn't Conbox make it from challengers? They look alot better this season

crisp lynx
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Conbox was in season 2

sturdy granite
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they were, but i thought they went through challengers to return

crisp lynx
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it was so-called superweek

sturdy granite
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ok, thats where I saw them

crisp lynx
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Conbox and X6 was 1st at superweek

red anvil
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there running orisa torb again wutface

crisp lynx
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2CP LUL

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11 sec left

sturdy granite
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Good lord what a hold

glad chasm
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@red anvil it's not like there's a true international open bracket for flux to make apex and it's pretty clear they're not 1 of the top 16 teams in the world based on how much of a joke every single one of their games are

sturdy granite
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Im actually surprised Uncia managed to cap at all

crisp lynx
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yeah

glad chasm
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Uncia been competitive on this 2cp and on koth

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Think if I'm LH or LWB I'm just trying to position opposite each other and fine with having either one of nv/afb as a potential semis match at this point

crisp lynx
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5:32 vs 0:11

red anvil
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i was getting water and they already captured? lol ok

sturdy granite
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"close game"

toxic yacht
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gg was close

forest raven
glad chasm
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They're about to do the draw now right?

forest raven
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Yep

glad chasm
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Wait they don't keep the casters on for it?

forest raven
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Nope

glad chasm
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That's a mistake IMO to not have them weigh in on what's going on like a studio team at any sports event

supple nymph
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live group draw is what? determining next matchups?

crisp lynx
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detemine ro8 group

red anvil
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AF.Blue with perfect score from group play

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lol nice

supple nymph
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ah

glad chasm
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So all the other top seeds would prefer to be placed on the same side of the bracket with nv as their potential semifinal I'm sure

crisp lynx
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as i know each A-D group 1st team pick their opponent

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AFB got most set (9-0). so they has highest priority

glad chasm
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They do a 1-4 number drawing

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Map set in group doesn't matter

crisp lynx
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oh, yes. you're right

glad chasm
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So whoever gets 1 would pick x6 I'd think, 2 picks conbox, 3 picks athena, 4 gets kdp...im guessing

red anvil
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Whoever picks first i'm guessing are gone pick conbox?

forest raven
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Most likely

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Could always pick KDP or Meta Athena

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I'd say CONBOX is weaker than X6

glad chasm
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I think conbox are a bit better than x6 personally

crisp lynx
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KDP looks weaker than MA at last game.

red anvil
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they messed up big time

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so probably athena over KDP

crisp lynx
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yeah

glad chasm
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Think the only chance x6/conbox would have of upsetting would be against nv either way tho

supple nymph
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TAIMOU

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LOL

forest raven
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Joel PogChamp

glad chasm
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THANKS JOEL

red anvil
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LOL

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they selected envy?

forest raven
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LH did in season 2, yeah

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Crushed em

red anvil
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oh it was a replay?

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fair enuff ๐Ÿ˜„ swapping between the tabs

forest raven
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Yeah, they haven't done the drawing yet

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And LH can't pick nV this season

supple nymph
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they were showing last season as an example

forest raven
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THey're both top seed

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Prefer AF and Meta over CONBOX and X6 LUL

red anvil
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yeah i was slightly confused lol

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and this gotta be a lie

forest raven
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Lunatic-Hai too scary

red anvil
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Meta prefers envy lol

amber ember
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meta choosing nv ๐Ÿค”

balmy wolf
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No one wants LH LULUS

red anvil
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I wonder whyyyy o3o

glad chasm
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Nobody wants LWB either

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This might be the best esports shit I've ever seen

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My man Joel coming in clutch with the translation

amber ember
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na ruined timo FeelsTiltedMan

red anvil
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i'm hoping for luntic vs. envy in finals

forest raven
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OGN is too, lul

supple nymph
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LOL

red anvil
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LOL

supple nymph
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TRADE

amber ember
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RIGGED

red anvil
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WUPS

crisp lynx
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LUL tobi

forest raven
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ENVY GOT 1

supple nymph
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ENVY WINS NA > KR

amber ember
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HE KNEW

supple nymph
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LOLOL

glad chasm
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Lmao most rigged shit I've ever seen. Fuck nv

rapid oxide
balmy wolf
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AFB trade LWB Envy trade LWB

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Taimou egg trading god

forest raven
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Taimou playing 4d chess

balmy wolf
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Thats a feelsbad for lwb

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Swapping #1 for #3

amber ember
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how are they gonna appeal to the first seed lol

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inless timo has a translater next to him

glad chasm
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Gonna have a de facto finals in semis between LH and LWB

red anvil
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so lunatic vs. meta most likely?

rapid oxide
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Rascal prxGasm

red anvil
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rough start ๐Ÿ˜„

balmy wolf
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That guy next to him when he was picking is a translator @amber ember

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Guy on the far right

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is a translator

amber ember
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ah right

crisp lynx
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Rascal/nus said KDP/MA want to meet nV.

supple nymph
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LOL

rapid oxide
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kek

supple nymph
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L
FDA
SFDS
sfg

balmy wolf
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lul timo

glad chasm
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Everyone wants to meet nv obviously. They're the weak link out of the group winners

rapid oxide
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Bromas, Slasher and Kangakanga playing with Freedom Fighters in Contenders

limber pine
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Slasher is EU?

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hm

balmy wolf
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Slasher playing on NA ping lul

rapid oxide
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and Toxiken

glad chasm
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Taimou gonna pick x6

limber pine
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what's his rank?

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4144

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pretty good

supple nymph
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he looks pissed

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lol

glad chasm
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You're welcome boys

balmy wolf
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You said that after he picked it

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at least for me

glad chasm
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Not for me

rapid oxide
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Slasher Top Heroes Mercy Thinkraging

supple nymph
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LOL

limber pine
red anvil
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Lunatic is probably gone be put in group A then

glad chasm
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@balmy wolf I also said x6 would get picked 1st like 5-10 mins ago if you scroll up a bit

red anvil
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blehhh

forest raven
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I think LWB may go for the throat and put themselves in A

balmy wolf
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not really a hard prediction lol

glad chasm
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Most ppl been saying conbox would get picked so it kinda was

balmy wolf
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not really

glad chasm
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Yeah really

balmy wolf
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just because it isnt the pick the people thought timo would pick, doesnt mean its hard

glad chasm
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@forest raven doesn't AFB get next preference?

balmy wolf
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Conbox and X6 are the weakest teams that got out of groups

forest raven
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Yeah lol

amber ember
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a hard prediction wouldve been if you said kdp

glad chasm
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Almost everybody had conbox getting picked first, as in a vast majority, saying that x6 would get picked first qualifies as a hard pick here.

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Because for whatever reason people think x6 is better than conbox even tho I, and apparently nv think different

balmy wolf
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Then the vast majority are idiots

glad chasm
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@forest raven wouldn't AFB just want to go into nV's group? Can't imagine they'd want to guarantee themselves the alternative

forest raven
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I thought LWB had 2nd pick for some reason

glad chasm
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Kinda unfortunate that LH and LWB will likely be a semis match even tho they clearly look like the 2 best teams to me

forest raven
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Power of RNG

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And Taimou the egg god

glad chasm
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Yep

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Hastro rigged it

red anvil
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YAY

glad chasm
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This entire thing is already really entertaining but it'd be off the walls if you could pick another top seed if you drew 1-2

red anvil
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Lunatic on group B!

glad chasm
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Lmao so predictable

forest raven
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LWB, LH, KDP and poor, poor CONBOX in B

red anvil
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rip conbox

balmy wolf
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Conbox is EU now?

glad chasm
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I'm not even sure athena is better than conbox atm honestly

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Kinda a coinflip imo

rapid oxide
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"Why Envy didn't pick Rogue" pepeLUL

glad chasm
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Lmao Joel

rapid oxide
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ez lol

red anvil
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Orly? kaplanwhat

rapid oxide
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no balls lul

glad chasm
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LWB still my pick to win

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I need to see SBB vs Effect

rapid oxide
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Gamsu FeelsLifeMan

glad chasm
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Still arguably the 3 best teams in B

red anvil
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I would set envy over KDP

supple nymph
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?????

glad chasm
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You vastly overrate nV IMO. Effect is either the 1st or 2nd best tracer alongside SBB but the rest of their team won't hold up

red anvil
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yeah i noticed that lol

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true i guess, i'm not impressed with taimous play this apex season

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and i wondered over that watch as well lol

supple nymph
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does this mean envyus plays friday

forest raven
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Yep

balmy wolf
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Yeah

supple nymph
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ok

rapid oxide
toxic yacht
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I didn't watch the cermoney shit

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who's nV up against?

amber ember
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x6

toxic yacht
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LOL

supple nymph
amber ember
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groups are nv-x6 afb-meta

glad chasm
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Your boys nV got the 1st pick and a fucking cake bracket

balmy wolf
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KDP vs LH

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hype

amber ember
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and lwb-conbox lh-kdp

toxic yacht
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thanks

supple nymph
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ohh crazy two direction elim bracket thing

toxic yacht
forest raven
rapid oxide
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who the hell is Joel?

forest raven
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Translator

glad chasm
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So is bracket true double elim or no?

forest raven
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Yeah

toxic yacht
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it is

forest raven
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Tobi gonna cry

glad chasm
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Are group A and B segregated in LB or is it possible for them to meet at some point in LB?

forest raven
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Completely segregated

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Teams in group A and B will only meet each other in semis

toxic yacht
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completely segregated, first and second place in the group will detemine who meets who in the semis

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A First place vs B Second Place

forest raven
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Top seed of A plays 2nd in B and vice versa

toxic yacht
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and vice versa

forest raven
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๐Ÿ‘€

toxic yacht
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๐Ÿ‘€

rapid oxide
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*vice

toxic yacht
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miuki vase

rapid oxide
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Vake

glad chasm
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Oh so true semis will actually likely split LWB and LH?

toxic yacht
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lh and LW aren't meeting in the semis

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no

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they'll get split

amber ember
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they'll play before then though

red anvil
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what decides the who meets in semis?

amber ember
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if they both win their matches

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1st group a/2nd group b

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and vice versa

glad chasm
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Yeah so they can meet in 2nd round of group B and assuming loser wins out then loser would be split off to face group A winner in semis right?

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Referring to LH/LWB

amber ember
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yeah pretty sure

rapid oxide
glad chasm
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Seems like that format almost mitigates the entire draw process to begin with but I'm a fan of anything that would let LWB and LH play in grand finals at this point

supple nymph
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increases chance of envyus playing at least 2 more matches

thick cosmos
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What 16 teams do you guys think will qualify from EU in contenders?

limber pine
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all of them

forest raven
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Any EU team you can name

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  • like four more
red anvil
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Have pro teams signed up or?

forest raven
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ofc

red anvil
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i've not payed attention to contenders at all

forest raven
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No EU team gets automatic berths into groups

limber pine
forest raven
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Misfits, NiP, eUnited and Movistar have priority seeding

limber pine
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i don't know the EU scene as well as NA

forest raven
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GO, Vivi's Adventure

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Maybe Valfard if that's still a project

red anvil
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weehoo thats a huge bracket

forest raven
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Singularity Ninjas

limber pine
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I didn't see Vivi's when I checked the other day

forest raven
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O ic

limber pine
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are they there now?

forest raven
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Doesn't seem so

thick cosmos
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They changed name to wee wee's adventure on contenders for memes

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Lol

rapid oxide
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Maybe Slasher team could do it

limber pine
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that them?

forest raven
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lul

thick cosmos
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Yea

rapid oxide
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i think maybe for some (C) ?

red anvil
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Less no shows in contenders than i expected

forest raven
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Cyclowns as well

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Seqta

rapid oxide
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maybe Blizzard wouldn't allow to use Vivi

forest raven
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NerdRage, perhaps

thick cosmos
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Yea maybe

forest raven
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ENCE maybe

amber ember
rapid oxide
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ENCE got a new roster

limber pine
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b0nkers

rapid oxide
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thick cosmos
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Laser kittens?

limber pine
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Laser is there

forest raven
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Team Expert

thick cosmos
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Is bonkers still a team?

balmy wolf
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no lol

red anvil
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Is there a list of all the proteams in contenders?

limber pine
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i'm just throwing names out lol

thick cosmos
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Thought so

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Lol

balmy wolf
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they all split to red reserve

rapid oxide
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Alicus: "Only 8 players max?"

balmy wolf
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And then th0nkers

forest raven
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eUnited, Movistar, Misfits, NiP, Cyclowns, SNG Ninjas, LK, and maybe GO qualify on day 1

balmy wolf
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and now they dont exist

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Klanton is on Bazooka Puppiez though

rapid oxide
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NA can signin in EU?

limber pine
forest raven
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Bazooka does have a pretty good roster, yeah

balmy wolf
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I feel like it might just be another "good players" roster

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Good on paper bad in practice

forest raven
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Maybe

thick cosmos
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Which teams do you think for qualifier 2? @forest raven

rapid oxide
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Good on paper bad in practice
cough NRG cough

forest raven
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Vivi's, Seqta, LDLC, Expert, ENCE, NerdRage

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idk who could be the last two because I don't really know much about EU

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@balmy wolf Would know more, possibly

thick cosmos
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I see

balmy wolf
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Oh man

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Bongo Beach Boys are signed up

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Now thats a name I haven't heard in a long time

rapid oxide
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really?

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wow

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thought they disband or smth

balmy wolf
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Seems its only 1/3 of the old roster

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Same name and logo though

limber pine
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isn't YaLLa a pro team

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or am i stupid

balmy wolf
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Yeah

rapid oxide
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yup

balmy wolf
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they're from the UAE

rapid oxide
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๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ช

balmy wolf
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They've dominated the middle east pro scene

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which is not really an achievement

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They played in go4overwatch #42

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came 4th

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they also played in the strivewire monthly

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but came in like 14th

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So outside of the middle east they're pretty meh

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Bazooka puppiez is also signed up for EU

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So I see them going through

limber pine
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yup

balmy wolf
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I wish meme Reddit could play

supple nymph
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why cant

rapid oxide
limber pine
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how good is X6

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I haven't watched any APEX this season

forest raven
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EnVy has a decent reason to be confident against them

balmy wolf
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Good enough to lose to Envy and then lose to MA

limber pine
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ISWYDT

balmy wolf
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wut

forest raven
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I see what you did there

balmy wolf
forest raven
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ISWYDT ICYMI

limber pine
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I mean, they won against RunAway and KDU

rapid oxide
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FYI

limber pine
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surely that means something?

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...right?

balmy wolf
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lol

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Uncia is shit since they lost Birdring to Panthera and Lucid to AFB

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Sure they have like

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decay and panker

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but thats it

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This is just what happens with sister teams

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One is always worse

supple nymph
balmy wolf
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Sister teams are really just so the org can have more subs

rapid oxide
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inb4 losing against x6

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im calling it

forest raven
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RunAway hemorrhaged heavily after losing Kaiser

balmy wolf
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Yep

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Runaway was looking real good

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But then Kaiser left and it all went spiraling downhill

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I see them disbanding after this season's over

forest raven
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Yeah

limber pine
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I'll have to remove their flair from the sub

forest raven
limber pine
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after it took us 6 months to get it in

rapid oxide
limber pine
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that's okay, we can replace them with the top 8 from this season

rapid oxide
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on cow or on ow?

limber pine
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OW

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I'm sure the CSS guy on cow will handle those

rapid oxide
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Is Turik that slow?

limber pine
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and my extent of making sure OW has the flair is me messaging @edgy remnant and telling him which ones to add ๐Ÿ˜„

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no turik handles practically everything else

rapid oxide
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He's the boss i guess

edgy remnant
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turik does basically all the CSS stuff, I only manage the esports team flairs

rapid oxide
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i think will be more logical to wait for OWL

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when team are set in the stone imo

limber pine
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probably

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but there's no reason we can't add a few

rapid oxide
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COW have some dead flairs too

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COW didn't add more because they were blocked by smth

limber pine
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CSS space

rapid oxide
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didnt know Reddit have a limit on CSS lul

limber pine
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yup

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it's pretty high, but it's there

rapid oxide
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One little off-topic and then ill go back to esport: About the Highlight issue on /r/ow? duckSmug

edgy remnant
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mmm

pine star
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He's derailing, ban him

rapid oxide
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Whytro falling asleep on the keyboard i see ๐Ÿ˜›

limber pine
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he's just pressing "a"

edgy remnant
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

limber pine
pine star
toxic yacht
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ban

rapid oxide
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now he's typing b

pine star
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Whytro: "k"

toxic yacht
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delet Whytro

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if we ban whytro

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he can't do anything to us

pine star
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OMG WHYTRO THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME

toxic yacht
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he's not writing anything

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hek

pine star
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I know

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Reeee

rapid oxide
edgy remnant
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but to seriously answer your question, from my personal pov, it's difficult to balance content of both types without any sort of backlash. if we kill the spirit of highlights, we get shit on by the casual folks, if we keep it the way it is, we get shit on by the comp folks, which just really sucks. i think it's harder because you have a game that delivers highlights to you on a silver platter and then the esports scene is still somewhat messy from the OWL preparations or lack of promotion of the events so people can get lost easily. ideally we want there to be a balance but it's hard to find a way to do so that would do good on both sides

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if only reddit gave us the power to change vote weighting

toxic yacht
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whoa

pine star
rapid oxide
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problem is people are getting used of that, now people classify /r/ow as /r/owhighlughts... was a terrible mistake didn't ban it before after a bunch of month after release

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removing highlights completely was a bad idea even if i liked it. i think the approach of COW is the best. Ban the repetitive one (Mercy pressing Q, Mcree deadeye) and keep the original one... it's the way to keep the sub cleaned by shitty potg but without removing them completely

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same goes for fan content... that should be OC and submitted by the artist himself

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ik that there's the issue of "what's original and what's not"

limber pine
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We're in the process of identifying repeatedly submitted content

rapid oxide
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i enjoy watching hilarious potg/highlights, but not the same boring mercy res everyday

edgy remnant
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We're also starting to trim some low effort content to a greater degree - you should see less of those dumb meme titles or bad humor posts

rapid oxide
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at the /r/ow have good highlights so i've no example to bring rn

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that's nice... im happy already knowing you are working on them jynLOVE

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let's go back esport now i guess :p

edgy remnant
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baby steps

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๐Ÿ‘ถ ๐Ÿผ

rapid oxide
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better baby than none

toxic yacht
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I am the senate

limber pine
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Hi Senate

edgy remnant
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speaking of esports, im glad that kelvin and the chipmunks are doing well

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๐Ÿ™ ajax

rapid oxide
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they can try in the future

forest raven
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Performed best against CLG

edgy remnant
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i love the bazooka puppiez team icon though

forest raven
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They got super burnt out by the end

rapid oxide
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the ripoff is real haha

edgy remnant
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i like it more than the LK one lul

forest raven
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Same

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Hope they qualify

edgy remnant
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most of them are ex-LDLC right?

forest raven
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You'd need to ask someone more versed in the EU scene

edgy remnant
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i know Ube was LG Loyal

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cant recognize the rest

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and Meza

forest raven
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Meza was signed by coL for like five days before the roster was dropped

edgy remnant
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yeah I remember that feelsbad moment

clever wagon
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Wow we're starting a coup against the admins now? #slowpoke

limber pine
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wut

clever wagon
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Sulli said ban Whytro so he can't do anything thenkeng

limber pine
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oh

pine star
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It was Sojum @clever wagon

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I would never ever do such thing ๐Ÿ‘€

solid spear
forest raven
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Everything you say I imagine in zappis' voice, sulli

pine star
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gently rests in Draw's shoulder

kindred lodge
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They should have a console esports

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It sounds like a shit idea but its cool

toxic yacht
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it'll happen if enough console gamers are interested and blizzard actually starts giving a shit about their console playerbase

#

but OW doesn't really seem like something that's gonna take off as a console esport tbh

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especially with how little blizz seems to care

solid spear
#

eh like Sojum bb said Blizz honestly give no fucks about it which will make it hard for it to ever really be a thing

rapid oxide
#

console peasants

unkempt wigeon
#

xd it's funny because people who play console r bad

steep locust
balmy wolf
#

All of Bazooka Puppiez are from different teams @edgy remnant

#

But 5 of them have been on LDLC at one point

edgy remnant
#

Ah, yeah, I looked it up after seeing a comment about it being basically ex-LDLC and then I remembered Ube was LG Loyal

toxic yacht
#

Ube was also LDLC at some point

balmy wolf
#

Yeah he's one of the 5

iron mauve
#

Console Esports has like very minor tourneys. I don't see it taking off since a vast majority of players who want to go pro, end up buying a pc anyway

#

There's zero coverage on console Esports and it receives hardly any views by fans. It's weird cause there are obviously other Esports on console, but with Ow, console is very minute in comparison to the pc Ow players. I do play on PS4 so I'm saying all this from experience

gentle shuttle
#

tfw Rubikon got a new team

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tfw I MISS ANOX ๐Ÿ˜ข

tranquil dagger
#

@iron mauve it's because the game is developed by blizzard and they are mainly a pc developer

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Like the only other big console esports as far as Xbox/PS4 goes is cod and halo and it's because halo is an Xbox exclusive and cod signed a deal with Sony

rapid oxide
toxic yacht
#

I literally know none of these people apart from wat7

rapid oxide
balmy wolf
#

who would lol

#

there is no notable pros from austria

#

besides him

rapid oxide
#

And Sojum duckSmug

solid spear
#

cant forget young Sojum

balmy wolf
#

by the way

#

gotta love reddit's hive mind

#

NicoGDH at one point was consider top 5 Genji

#

one bad performance

#

"Genji is not a debate imo. Haksal whoru flow3r libero tviq shadowburn shadder2k hell even seagull are all miles above him on that hero."

rapid oxide
#

"Soon is the best tracer in the world" "SOON LUL"

balmy wolf
#

"he isn't Top 5 NA"

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lol

limber pine
#

@rapid oxide where'd you get that image

#

somebody on r/compOW tried to post it on a throwaway ๐Ÿ‘€

toxic yacht
#

leakz

rapid oxide
#

reddit

wintry matrix
#

I mean, reddit is lots of people so, but yeah, that happens a bit

limber pine
#

just a thousand though

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not much more than that

wintry matrix
#

pardon my uncultered english from a dunk brazilian boy

limber pine
#

you're forgiven blobsmilehappyeyes

blazing parrot
wintry matrix
#

๐Ÿค™

blazing parrot
#

obviously everyone in reddit knows and are professionals in everything

limber pine
#

Source: am on Reddit and am professional

blazing parrot
#

source: me

#

i am god

#

/s

balmy wolf
#

replying to these assholes make my head spins, tbh

#

Rogue are just like TSM

blazing parrot
#

then dont

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

theyre just a bunch of ignorant children

#

who think they understand how the esports scene is run

#

w/o being a part of it

#

im not saying that im any better

#

but still

limber pine
#

TBF even some of the people in esports don't understand how it's run

#

esports is complicated shit

blazing parrot
#

such is life

#

well who knows

limber pine
#

C'est la vie

blazing parrot
#

wonder what r/cow will jerk about next

limber pine
#

Blizzard ruining esports
some pro hates another pro
NRG

#

pick one

blazing parrot
#

@limber pine when will r/cow circlejerk about conspiracy theories about rogue

#

im dying to know

limber pine
#

probably tomorrow

supple nymph
#

KappaPride

blazing parrot
#

exceellent

toxic yacht
#

eggcelent

blazing parrot
#

il make sure to bring all my upvotes along

#

eggcelent

supple nymph
#

im conflicted on the blizzard ruining esports threads- if blizzard reads cow they are important

#

but i dont know if they do

#

else they are spam

#

i feel like at this point some corporate executive is just handing down orders to jeff

#

and nothing said there matters

balmy wolf
#

they probably keep somewhat of a track on it

#

but not enough i don't think

#
supple nymph
#

hey look @playoverwatch tweeted

#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

balmy wolf
#

lolz

supple nymph
#

nothing about contenders

#

notathing

balmy wolf
#

as far as I know the twittter is more at hand of Team 4

#

rather than corporate

#

so of course Team 4 is going to tweet more about the content

#

rather than esport

supple nymph
#

well shit

#

aren't Omen those red space cubes

#

that guy from the uk tournament is always pushing?

balmy wolf
#

it is Acer Predator, mate

supple nymph
#

that

balmy wolf
#

that's HP Omen

#

but in Takeover 2 it was Acer Predator

supple nymph
#

giant useless 10k laptop

#

no not takeover

#

there's a guy that comes here every once and awhile from the uk

#

and advertises a tournament

#

where they give away the cubes or something

#

poor seagull getting harassed on stream

blazing parrot
#

lmfao

balmy wolf
#

did he just make the move on that Mercy main?

#

why would you

supple nymph
#

no more seagull team feelsbad

#

they should stay together and do some minor tournaments

versed gate
#

guys

#

why does lg evil

#

suck so fucking much

toxic yacht
balmy wolf
#

why is that all you say in here Thanking

supple nymph
#

try it out

blazing parrot
#

@versed gate widowHug

versed gate
#

i just wanna make sure everyone knows

#

we're a tier 3 na team

balmy wolf
#

alright

toxic yacht
blazing parrot
#

@versed gate AnaTHROW

versed gate
#

wait wtf

#

so that's why i got followers

balmy wolf
#

@versed gate is the reverse Ajax. He came not for the pity, but for the grief

versed gate
#

im also not racist

#

im also not bad

toxic yacht
#

inb4 someone summons ajax

solid spear
#

boi

blazing parrot
#

grill

solid spear
#

._.

devout cipher
#

Damn @rob420 does that make you a tier 3 na player?

blazing parrot
#

nice tag

wintry matrix
#

quick, post this scoop in r/cow "LGE player confirmed they are scrubs "fuk this team, imma go GWENT"

toxic yacht
#

All rogue players grinded for years in EU and then went to stomp NA. Suddenly NA think they created monsters. lol. NA is region of bitches. They will bend to the strongest. Praise the french praise the eu. You trashcans cant even produce god tier players

#

sorry, I couldn't resist

#

this pasta is amazing

blazing parrot
#

@toxic yacht where do you find these

toxic yacht
#

twitch chat

blazing parrot
#

ah

toxic yacht
#

that and this
Listen up. C9 is a top tier team, they have the best Americans, the best Canadians and THE BEST koreans, you try and name another team with the skill and diversity of c9, oh thats right you cant cos they are one of kind: ELITE. So next timd u think about saying c9 lul remember this. Don't turn this into one of those copy/paste things either...

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came from takeover

#

there was a whole bunch of other amazing stuff

balmy wolf
#

i mean NA's god tier players are who at this point? Fuckin' Seagull on stream who stomped on scrub teams and then got beaten by actual pro team?

balmy wolf
#

that's one.

toxic yacht
#

I could probably name a few others, but the pool flat out isn't as deep as EU or KR's atm

balmy wolf
#

NA lacked true shutdown DPS threat

#

Agilities might be another one but that's it

gentle shuttle
#

lol moonmoon just got modded in aris' chat

supple nymph
#

why are there so many LoL viewers on twitch rn

#

there arent any tournaments

#

without Seagull carrying OW would have as many viewers as Golf It! right now

toxic yacht
supple nymph
#

team usa stays top secret XXX secuirty clearance until WC

supple nymph
#

Fixed an issue that allowed blocked players to send Custom Game invites

#

CAWW

balmy wolf
#

nice esports flmGood

supple nymph
#

you know you could enter Contenders and just not show up

#

then at least you could say you were in it

limber pine
rapid oxide
#

Or play and get stomped

#

what matter is not winning but having fun atleast. I had fun

supple nymph
#

he might get matched with that all furry team

rapid oxide
supple nymph
#

would be a good story to tell

balmy wolf
#

lol I pointed out that Lunatic Hai only won one LAN and got downvoted to hell.

#

is this some sort of yellow fever within the competitive community or something?

blazing parrot
#

where?

#

i never understand why people downvote legitmate things

#

like someone asks a question

#

and people just downvote it to oblivion

wintry matrix
#

Wouldnt be sutprised after Rogueยดs showing in apex

supple nymph
#

say something about seagull to balance it out

balmy wolf
supple nymph
#

or nrg

wintry matrix
#

Reddit favor echo chamber and muh opinion above all

limber pine
#

because people don't use the downvote button the way Reddit intended it to be @blazing parrot

iron cedar
#

^^^

#

this 100%

supple nymph
#

where did you post there

#

i dont see

balmy wolf
#

just look for it

#

anyway

supple nymph
#

is wolf your other account

balmy wolf
#

yeah?

blazing parrot
#

@limber pine isnt it upvote for visibility down vote to hide something?

supple nymph
#

i was looking for theseawolf

#

or whatever it is

blazing parrot
#

the right way that is

limber pine
#

downvotes do not autohide

#

upvote is for "good" content, and downvote is for content that doesn't follow the rules

#

but Reddit uses it as an agree/disagree button

supple nymph
#

comments get hidden but i think that's a RES thing

limber pine
#

yeah maybe

blazing parrot
#

it was hidden without res

#

iirc before i had res

balmy wolf
#

OW Contender group stages take places in 2 weekends for each region

#

why can't they spread it out into the weekdays

#

16 teams, 4 groups, 4 games series format

hallow lichen
#

does someone know if this is legit?

balmy wolf
#

yes

#

so which pros are you emulating now?

supple nymph
#

it must have been a lot of work to make that

#

unless they just made up stuff

hallow lichen
#

Don't think its made up. Look at all these comments. Seems like they are updating it a lot. Just wanted to check before sharing it on facebook and look like an idiot. ๐Ÿ˜‰

blazing parrot
#

so they just pull information off of liquidpedia and put it on 1 page?

#

nice i guess

limber pine
#

(edited)

iron cedar
#

This kaizen guy is tilting me in the comp channelNotLikeSoldier

blazing parrot
#

(edited)(edited)(edited)

hallow lichen
#

@blazing parrot Liquipedia is super outdated. I usually check twitch and twitter. This site seems updated though.

blazing parrot
balmy wolf
#

they must have a hard time updating Surefour's constant sens changing

hallow lichen
#

haha true

blazing parrot
#

...

#

liquipedia is not super outdated

#

lel

hallow lichen
#

its super duper outdated

blazing parrot
#

why not join liquipedia's discord server and see how outdated they are ๐Ÿ˜„

balmy wolf
#

realistically though, outside of Taimou and Surefour

#

who changes their sens routinely enough to change the data base?

blazing parrot
#

who also bases their dps and sens off of pros?

supple nymph
#

dummy?

balmy wolf
#

bunch of people does

#

mine is only at 800/4 though

#

pretty much the standard for low sens user

solid spear
#

youd be surprised Kyo

#

a lot of people do for whatever reason

balmy wolf
#

everyone wants to emulates their idol

#

one way or another

#

so in order to incite viewers to watch more esport

#

we are going to have a double XP weekend instead

blazing parrot
supple nymph
#

WHAT

blazing parrot
#

its also the last week for the event

supple nymph
#

they ad double xp but not EU contenders

#

fuck blizzard

#

test run

balmy wolf
#

so what was that again about placing trust on Blizzard to come through with their esport promise?

blazing parrot
#

damn shame too

clever wagon
#

Haha, bullshit

#

I call bullshit on the event items drop rate anyway

#

Bullshittingly small

#

15+ boxes and not a single legendary skin

#

Not even one I don't want

blazing parrot
#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

i got three in 20 boxes

#

:>>>

solid spear
#

well

#

in my first 20-25 I got 0

#

but in my last 20ish Ive gotten 4 so you never know

limber pine
#

I got two in one box

#

RNG is random

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

clever wagon
#

Yeah but there's a set % chance for every tier

#

Not 100% RNG

limber pine
#

correct

#

it's not true RNG

#

but to the average person, it's RNG

balmy wolf
#

there was an article where Blizzard explains the drop rate

clever wagon
#

For those that never play any gacha/lootbox based game it's RNG

#

Say RNG all they want but if they set a legendary to 1% in the long run it'll come close to 1% actual drop rate anyway

#

The only difference is when will it catch that 1%

iron cedar
#

How is this esports btw?

balmy wolf
#

just some slightly off topic things

limber pine
#

E S P O R T S

supple nymph
#

what does conbox spirit mean

#

discuss

limber pine
supple nymph
#

๐Ÿฆ†

limber pine
#

the spirit of a box full of con-men

#

So who's the favorite in APEX?

#

LH and EnVy?

wintry matrix
#

prob LH, i wouldn't bet on NV

balmy wolf
#

with X6 and KDP? LH might in a bad spot

#

X6 beat them before while KDP take LH to 5 maps

wheat tendon
#

Haven't ever looked into Overwatch esports before

#

is there a current national competition?

supple nymph
#

NV #1

wheat tendon
#

anyone have a link to the bracket

limber pine
#

@wheat tendon Check the pinned images

wheat tendon
#

ty

limber pine
#

the twitch stream is also in the channel description

#

OGN APEX Season 3

wheat tendon
#

awesome

supple nymph
solid spear
#

McCree 1%

limber pine
#

yikes

civic marsh
#

make mccree great again

limber pine
#

mccree and soldier interchangeable

#

kinda

#

nerf soldier, mccree replaces him

civic marsh
#

if they nerfed soldier wouldn't pharah mercy be more popular rather than mccree

#

since mccree still gets merked by dive

limber pine
#

probably

solid spear
#

McCrees just not that good really even if 76 was nerfed again

#

if dive is popular McCree pretty much automatically wontbe

clever wagon
#

Now that he mentioned it, it's true. When I play Hog I often use him to punish and take DVa/Winston out of the fight quickly. Then squishy frontline/flankers - because it's easier to deal with them without those tanks around, obviously.

solid spear
#

Hogs just gone next patch at least at pro level

rapid oxide
#

Sombra Tier 4 HYPERGACHI

#

Liquipedia isn't outdated lmao they doesn't give a shit about sens because pros could keep changing it and keep tracking on it its a waste of time

#

Also you should NEVER emulate/copy other sens.

#

It's a good way to fuckd up your muscle memory

clever wagon
#

If it helps to find comfort sens quicker, why not lmao

rapid oxide
forest raven
#

@wheat tendon There's also the Contenders tournament, to take place in both North America and Europe. North American qualifiers have already concluded and European qualifiers are taking place on the 10/11th. You can scroll down in the pins a bit for more info on the tournament.

#

Contenders is the official Blizzard tournament taking place before OWL commences later in the year/early next year

toxic yacht
balmy wolf
#

shadowburn been streaming, btw

toxic yacht
#

he's been streaming more often recently

balmy wolf
#

TwoEasy is also streaming too

#

i kind of want to watch Rogue vs eUnited to be honest

#

and rewatch all the gay antics

toxic yacht
#

oh hey, dafran throwing games again on an alt

balmy wolf
#

yeah

toxic yacht
#

trying his hardest to make me not support selfless

balmy wolf
#

all the meme will come out once Selfless choked another game away

toxic yacht
#

well, he's still doing more than in the game vs yikes

jovial eagle
#

saucy play from seagull

#

he usually plays his best when tilted for some reason

balmy wolf
#

@toxic yacht it is actually funny earlier in the day there was a thread defending Dafran

#

and now he is outright throwing

toxic yacht
#

I have no idea how people defend something like this

#

how is that even fun?

balmy wolf
#

iirc it was "let them be human"

#

or some sort of defense like that

red anvil
#

Dafran is super good at wasting his talent, LH coach applauded him and AKM as the most accurate soliders around

rapid oxide
#

what happened?

balmy wolf
#

he basically did a throw stream

#

where half of the stream screen was him watching a wild life documentary

#

and half was just him throwing as Lucio/Torb

#

let him fuck up his own career, theres nothing we can do about it other than be happy, that he is happy with what he is doing. its a game, let him have fun. and you cant always say sorry to everyone he has thrown with, aka teammates. sadly. but he is 20 something so he knows what he is doing is wrong. let him do it

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

wary falcon
#

oh hey, dafran throwing games again on an alt

he is still playing

balmy wolf
#

it is weird because behaviors like this is why NA esport scene is such a shit show

#

and always the weakest scene out of every other region

#

and Dafran is fucking Danish

#

and he out NA almost everyone else on the ladder in this regard

rapid oxide
#

he doesn't give a shit because he's talented

#

his career isn't ruined for this

#

because someone in APEX said racial stuff and he didn't got benched

balmy wolf
#

Mr Thigh himself

solid spear
#

-_-

clever wagon
#

Man I love Dafran's S76 play but the shit he does outside of games

#

I mean if he wasn't a pro I probably won't give a shit

#

And just laugh along

solid spear
#

Slasher in chat...revealing a secret fetish pineapple?

#

๐Ÿ‘€

clever wagon
#

Slasher is chat
Maybe 22 years using English daily as a second language isn't enough after all

solid spear
#

I'm not 22 pls and I'm on my phone Seija pls

#

Haz mercys

clever wagon
#

Ooo

#

Everything is confusing

#

Though that was meant for myself @solid spear

#

Ayyy

solid spear
#

Went the stream stopped

#

Had me shook

clever wagon
#

Huh?

solid spear
#

Oh Dafran

clever wagon
#

@solid spear Be glad that you on the phone isn't anywhere as bad as this

solid spear
#

Rip lol

clever wagon
#

Worse than Dafran throwing

solid spear
#

Seija pls

rapid oxide
#

/r/ow quality as usual

limber pine
#

same thing on compOW front page

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

iron cedar
#

@rapid oxide You were saying
zaryalol

solid spear
#

R/cow lately has been trash too

forest raven
#

I went on /r/ow and was like (as always) "too many highlights"

#

I went to /r/cow

#

First five posts were highlights

#

Just from pros in ranked instead of plebs in ranked

solid spear
#

Highlights and drama

#

Is basically that sub now

forest raven
#

I use it for the match discussion threads

iron cedar
#

Thinking there better than the main sub
zaryalol

signal phoenix
#

Its a shame really

solid spear
#

I mean its still better than the main sub

#

But its trash

iron cedar
balmy wolf
#

what

solid spear
#

Taimou subbed lol

clever wagon
#

Harryhook is also in the chatttt

blazing parrot
#

Why is Dafran streaming hentai

solid spear
#

Dont question it bb

clever wagon
#

Wrongh

#

It's not hentai by definition because it's not the 18+ version

solid spear
#

Effect...lol Envy is just all weebs

clever wagon
#

Little do we know Azuki is actually a new KDP member with that sailor uniform

red anvil
#

Stop making me salty that KDP dont have any female members

#

and on the serious note Dafran is weird

blazing parrot
#

Lol taimou and mendo

#

in dafrans stream

clever wagon
#

Harryhook subbed

#

Jesus

blazing parrot
#

All the pros are perverts godLUL

signal phoenix
#

How do i see overwatch comp games live? Where do they get streamed?

blazing parrot
#

Twitch

solid spear
#

Twitch

rapid oxide
#

Whwt scares me is that Dafran is not talking HYPERGACHI ๐Ÿ’ฆ

blazing parrot
#

Hes talking

signal phoenix
#

Okk thanks

forest raven
#

You can check the channel description for the streams of tournaments @signal phoenix

#

Also, if you keep #esports-news unmuted you'll be able to see when a tournament is soon to start

limber pine
frank frigate
#

Good morning everyone, I just posted this week's Meta Report: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6ftuk7/overwatch_hero_meta_report_a_tale_of_two/

It's a long one, but worth it I promise โค Includes deep dives on Sombra, Zenyatta, Dive vs Tanks, and Overwatch Contenders storylines to get you hyped up about the coming NA group stages. Let me know what you think!

blazing parrot
#

@frank frigate Heart

frank frigate
#

as always you can @ me here and I'll respond!

iron cedar
#

@frank frigate What do you think of the hog changes?

blazing parrot
#

@frank frigate hey bby succ

rapid oxide
frank frigate
#

hog may still be able to be a shield buster but i think it'll knock him down enough that no one will use him at the pro level

#

i'm going to be driving to work for the next 20 mins but i'll check my @ 's when i get there!

iron cedar
#

@frank frigate How about the reaper and mccree buffs?

solid spear
#

I need to ask 40 questions hue

clever wagon
#

I'm sorry for my shitty pun

toxic yacht
#

Boombox
Gachi1Gachi2
Gachi3Gachi4

frank frigate
#

@iron cedar Reaper's buff is cute but it doesn't solve his biggest problem, gap closing. teams can just kite you to kingdom come, vampire leech or not. If he gets used, he'll basically need a lucio on a leash with speed aura.

McCree, not enough to bring him back either (at least, according to the pros), but I think there's some potential for Electric Cowboys to blow pharmercys out of the sky because they won't have time to react. The problem with comparing nanoboosting deadeye and nanovisor is that D.Va counters them both, and Soldier gets more done outside of the ultimate war

blazing parrot
pine star
#

@frank frigate Reaper would then fit "come fight me" kind of comps

#

Like the Zarya triple tank King's Row comp you highlighted in another meta report

#

Wouldn't he?

solid spear
#

I was going to compliment your ping :<

pine star
#

Too slow FeelsSmugMan

toxic yacht
#

ur a ping

rapid oxide
#

slowpokes everywhere NotLikeMiya

balmy wolf
#

WE BACK BOIS

toxic yacht
#

no veineless

#

0/10

rapid oxide
toxic yacht
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
#

Expert + veine

#

lit

#

I remember when I ran into them 5 stacking qp

toxic yacht
#

also, ruby

balmy wolf
toxic yacht
#

pretty sure that that's meme reddit ruby

limber pine
#

sheesh OWC allows two subs?

#

how did I not know this?! think

rapid oxide
#

Alicus know

toxic yacht
#

kelvin and the chipmunks had 3 subs

rapid oxide
#

favoritism

#

:^)

balmy wolf
#

LOL

#

during the Takeover stream when Linkrz was in chat

toxic yacht
#

I have no idea how many subs they allow

balmy wolf
#

I asked "what would you do if NIP wants you"

#

and he was having that little unsure emoticon

#

and now this

toxic yacht
#

tbh I'd be sad if NiP dropped someone

#

hope that he's just a 7th

balmy wolf
#

it is kind of weird because Linkrz would give them the firepower they needed

#

since Zappis and Mafu seemingly is not enough in the current climate

#

and nobody wants to see NIP being NIP even in OW

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"we played 1 week before against same team and our both skills average were the same (we have done 1 loose 1 win and 2 draw) and we didnt remember that tracer and that hanzo were so good !!! also the hanzo never play it in comp but 20h in quickplay with 20%accuracy. (probably why he doesnt play hanzo in comp) and he never miss a shot !!
i absorb his ult with my Dva and had another ult 35 seconds later XD !! we just ask ourselves questions ...."

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the things you see in Contenders discord.....

wintry matrix
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that's why i keep saying to dump this and go Paladins

limber pine
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where the same things happen?

wintry matrix
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I jest. Actually know nothing of the scene

limber pine
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I know the team that won the first invitational has already disbanded

wintry matrix
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it doesn't look like the type of game that was planned to last

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or at least reach a point that could sustain a pro scene

limber pine
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It's just changed so much since CB

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at it's core

balmy wolf
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you never know how fucked up BLizzard can drive OW to

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with their "oh we are totally for esport but won't PR it" attitude of theirs

wintry matrix
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I mean, the pro scene i dunno, but as a game i highly doubt it Bliss will ruin it

toxic yacht
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Blissard

balmy wolf
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OW is pretty casual at its core, and all the events and shit is making it even more so

limber pine
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but

balmy wolf
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of course it doesn't help that somehow only 9 fucking percent of the player base is actually above diamond

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which is still a stat that blew my mind to this day

wintry matrix
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dunno how events can make it "more casual" but ok

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i mean, average is average for a reason, then you account for all ragers, toxic, people who don't care etc.

balmy wolf
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the Activision earnings reports repeatedly stated that the events with skins was what drive retention

wintry matrix
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i do say it needs to incentivize a more "competitive mindset" attitude, but dunno how to do that

balmy wolf
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so of course, a lot of efforts will be back to that because a. retention of casual audience and b. lootbox money