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They'll be versus Ex-Rise or CLG
Damn I love redbull
CLG might be a bit easier than ex-rise
Ex-rise took a map off of rogue
Back in the day
"If we kill him he's dead" seagull

My raging unstoppable stiffy will penetrate space and time if seagulls keeps hitting these air shots
Damm if they win the next match they will be vsing either immortals or tempo
Against who? @balmy wolf
Rogue winning TO2, G2 almost to the point to win EPL

Tonight was a good night for french esport feelsgoodman
Any EU good streams for contenders?
We dont even know who's in it yet
SUPERTEAM
@spring lintel it will be the same stream
now that the casters will be casting from
Denver instead
Dude the team vsing seagull right now is pretty good
Ikr
Jinxed it ๐
As soon as I said that he double shotted the phara
Team Seagull won
and NRG lost
at least tonight we will have good viewership i guess
wut nrg lost ? against who
Tbh seagull's team is having easy matches
Nrg are plain shit honestly
their phara was pretty beasting
i'd not be surprise if Blizzard gave them easier seedings
Still a respectable result by my boys
If seagull vs nrg, seagulls team would win easy
still a hell of a fight NRg put up
Seagulls team made it FeelsGoodMan
tfw we've had so much OW to watch I haven't touched the game the whole weekend 
Seagulls team have the synergy dude
Former NRG players qualifying for Contenders: Enigma, Pookz, Clockwork, Seagull, Ajax
Current NRG players qualifying for Contenders: 0
Guys is contenders the same as OW league?

SAVAGE AF
My boi Monte with the spice
missing Gods lol
GOD DAMN
IMT vs Tempo, Winner of Ex-Rise vs CLG vs Kelvin and the Chipmunks, TN Esports vs Liquid, EnV vs Hammers
I dunno what the hell is wrong with NRG they seem stiff as fuck
This is hype
My boys Kelvin ๐
This fucking contenders is lit dude
I don't know if Seagull should be consider "ex-player" though
lolz
i want Tempo, Ex-Rise, Liquid and Hammers in
hell yeah dude I've been glued to my chair for the past few days
FeelsAmazingMan
Hammers and eUnited are also coming to smurf in NA, right?
woah i havent been watching, those top8?
just Hammers
since eUnited will have to play the EU Contenders qualifier
who did nrg lose to
eU planned to move to NA
These contenders stream are so good dude
But looks like thats delayed
what does nrg do now ? wait 6 months?
or not happening
Specially when diamond scrubs do some stupid shit against pros and it works
the matches you listed are top8 @balmy wolf ?
Yeah
@supple nymph https://puu.sh/waXE2/840a4c01c8.png
Top 8
One of them isnt qualifying
Because of C9
NRG had officially evolved from fuckin' Dumpster Fire to Forest Fire
NRG drops roster and signs Kevlin
yep
They need to keep harb
nrg as an org are just dogshit
The others I dont care
inb4 G2 Kelvins
the only thing they have anything resembling success in is rocket league
Although hog is kinda out of the meta currently but he is so good as multiple heroes
^ harb
I think Midnight might bat out CLG
I think so
Ex-rise are good af
They took a map off of rogue, I still remember it.
think kelvin is probably the weakest there
Definitely
Where?
Onigod 
I was hoping at least one of the small teams would make it (ones without established professional players)
^ unlikely
^^ highly unlikely
i know
wouldve been nice but it was stacked
Tbh the team that was vsing seagull might have a good chance with coaching
and with so many free agents there were gonna be even more good lineups
my team went up against ex Rise and get completely pasted
F
RIP
At least u might have learned something
if KatC wins this whole thing I will be jacking it for weeks to come
after winning against BK Randys Team Nevermore matched up against ex Rise. Swift 2-0
So it seems that the team that comes in last doesnt qualify
FeelsBadMan
wut
No?
Brain fart
Its top 7 that qualify
wait so who coming in last
SEagull's team?
The team that comes in last doesnt qualify
They need to win 1 match
probably reign
And they have 2 matches
either them or TN
Dummy is the problem re-confirmed
Monte just got POTG, team kill right there ๐
Maybe something in the management or something
fuck, Hammers might be the one getting the short end of the stick
since their seedings are last
Honestly, I want all the teams to go through, it's gonna be close
Fuck me Monte is a fucking savage
Top 8 so far is IMT, Tempo, Midnight sucks/CLG, Seagull's stream team, Toronto eSport, Team Liquid, Envision, and Hammers
so if whoever come last lose
is it Hammers or ex Rise/CLG?
are they just all gonna play each other?
thats great
Theres no corndog tho
Dafuq Spree is just 22 years old
22s average for esports tho
"Basically the loser of all the matches keep playing eachother till there's one final loser. Some kind of a backwards losing bracket."
oh to decide who doesnt make it its basically a bracket with the losers advancing
oh
dammit as soon as i send that you post that
I would say that NRG needs a complete rebuild, but with the ex-TSM guy in charge, the rebuild would take four months and kill a few careers.
๐ฅ
I just want Hammers and Team Liquid to qualify
I have too much on Team Old Men
and also another EU team smurfing in NA isn't bad
feel like hammers could get fucked by ping
CLG won
rip

Dafran just said that their match with seagulls team was really close?
Ajax was the problem LUL

It seems that the name is cused
Globetrotters of OW
poor 
I believe in my โ bois
"lol why the fuck does everyone hate NRG so much? I seriously haven't seen either the players or the coach do or say anything that would make everyone this salty, but apparently they are. If anything, the former players (like this guy and Ajax after his shitty tweet) just come off as petulant and unprofessional with their attitude. As far as I can tell NRG as an org and all its people have been nothing but classy while everyone continues to shit on them on Twitter."
NRG the meme team
good lord
Weeb smh
Which teams can qualified today???
Introducing Overwatch Contenders - the development league for aspiring Overwatch League professionals, kicking off in summer 2017 in North America and Europe. Season Zero of Overwatch Contenders will be an open signup, online-only tournament with a USD $50,000 prize pool per region.

plus Seagull's team and Toronto Esports
all of them have no hot colors on their colors lol
So NRG and EG are out
@thorn holly correct
Any good org which are out Too???
Or just them?
Honestly, idk why EG signed The East Wind roster when they hadnt Play in any tournament
lululul
Placed*
no one
Can someone explain how the top 7 are determined in contenders?
I see. Tyty
so they do 2 round robins for each group?
and the top 2 for each week go forward?
or maybe just top 1 for each week
TLDR lose three in a row and Cloud9 takes your place
Seagull's team might just call for a forfeit tbh
because this team is not built to be playing in group stage
this is my first time watching a pro overwatch match
who should i root for
Root for the team you find most appealing in playstyle
Root for the team with the best logo
also in the twich chat their spamming this "hell seagull this is NRG" meme thing what's that about
Root for the team with the coolest name
Seagull is the most popular Overwatch community figure, he was on the roster for the NRG team, but left it a couple days before their first tourney after months of building a new roster
I think i'll root for tempo storm since there are currently tunderstorms in my area
And now his own streamer team has made it further than NRG
Good enough for me
nice i like that story
there was a power outage that ended abvout 20 minutes ago
lol do you happen to be in Texas or something
cuz it is also thunderstorm over here
and raining
yep
yep rainwolf
I like it, tbh
as someone who used to live in a city full of rain
it'll cool things off
ajax was the problem
well, in this particular broadcast
I root for 3 teams
a. Team Liquid

because they are mainly composed of FPS veterans
b. team rocket
because they honestly need the pokemon
lolz
wait shadder is a fps veteran?
Team Rocket got knocked out
well, other one is Hammers eSports. They are playing from EU
in ro64 iirc
dude, everyone in Team Liquid except for Shadder is an old man.
WHO DO I WATCH
Is Toronto Esports finally not being a tier 3 team ๐ค
And here, we, go
Streaming next match at 5PM~ PT http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/ - Made top 8 in contenders day 2 (top 7 to qualify for groups)
is Shadder's internet acting up again
plz
dang
thats blue
Luddee and Onigod carrying @forest raven

ITS A RACE TO GET THE MOST VIEWERS
please no 
please qualified
you are too underdog to fail now
Hammers somehow 1-0 Envision though
Hammers is a good team
ONIGOD ISNT STREAMING
SHADDER ISNT STREAMING
I CANT TAKE WATCHING THE SCORELINE ON LIQUIPEDIA
HEEEELP
FeelsBadMan
im only going to watch the condender's stream
Yeah same
they arent even playing yet thou
NRG 
๐ BabyRage BabyRage HEY NRG ๐ BabyRage THIS IS SEAGULL ๐ BabyRage EAT SHIT ๐ BabyRage
Go team storm!
Shit, Kariv and Fate already in NA
you think the koreans got enough sleep?
Better play their comfortable heros
I know kno one is going to pick sym but i hope they pick sym
๐ 4Head HELLO NRG ๐ 4Head THIS IS ENIGMA, POOKZ, CLOCKWORK, SEAGULL, AJAX AND GODS ๐ 4Head HOW DID YOUR GAMES GO TODAY? ๐
can we...maybe...keep that meme out of the discord?
some laughs before the match
I didn't laugh
lul
wow a pro widow
i laughed at the I didn't laugh
who is bailee
dat default spraw lol
Hammers 2-0 EnVision
https://twitter.com/vlokkin/status/863502489051639815 @blazing parrot
Two Mercy mains walk into a bar https://t.co/os2IPAojhE
7725
13951
one of the girls in this
is it really

i thought so but no one confirmed it when i asked
lul?
holy shit that was so close to a c9 
He's a flex support sulli
glad hammers won
more nesh action is always great
rip
nice nice nice
scoreline of liquid toronto?
Still 1-0
Seagull fragging out with genji
SEAGULL MAKES ME HORNY
seagull murdering clg
wow
Omg
wtf?
i did not know that was a thing
KATC with set swaps
which one is seagull he's not seagull in the game's name
Better than 80% of NA teams LUL
Toronto beat Liquid 2-0
FUCK
seagull lost
its 0-1 right now they can still take it
til genji is pro
So, Hammers vs Toronto
Fucking hell liquid
I also refresh Liquipedia every 10 seconds, Polo
please
don't pull a 
Yeah im doing that aswell @forest raven
and over.gg
they arent updating
liquipedia is still 1-0
over.gg is 0-0
there just updated
kms
my goodness
Dream Kaiser lul
At least i still have Hammers

@balmy wolf well, if they win the next match
they can still qualified
but if they lose 3 in a row though
god being a liquid fan is suffering
anyone know who liquid have to play next
like I said, being Team Liquid fan is pain and suffering
Yep
If KATC lose to CLG they play the loser of IMT/Tempo
KATC just need to bow out
they are not going to be uber serious to do daily scrim and stream it
because no one will let them to.
think itll be down to envision and katc
inb4 NRG imports Runaway, or LH or Meta Athena and still suck*
There
Fixed it for ya
Mei fight ๐ฎ
"genji and the importance of genji" i'm out
lol
well
Gillfrost is a meme in the OW twitch
he is known as Left Guy
he is very awkward, but that's why twitch loves him
Left guy repping IMT
His shirt and tie
same colour as logo lol
Left Guy 
on top of my 9 months
ajax boop 
such a close match for seagull's team
FUCKING BELIEVE IN SEAGULL
CLG v Seagulls team is insane
RareSeagull
It's actually a good match
Grimreality 
This month is the best OW esport month ever
Enigma's account is only 27 and he's been playing since beta @balmy wolf
he uses smurfs
Fate seems like he got a new acc for OW over here
daaamn
yeah, Blizz isn't doing anything with their tweet
I cry
well, they will fight the loser of IMT/Storm
wait are they out for good?
2 more trys
unless they forfeited, no
Cmon Seagull
did NRG make it or are they out?
out, lost to Envision
typical
poor chipmunks
Left Gay 
is there any site that shows the losing bracket?
ahh thx
instead of dying, saying to quit the game and re log as a different hero lmao
because it would be faster
toronto beat TL? how embarassing
seems silly to sign someone in EU and not move them
he is a good talent that can bypass that
too bad his internet seems to be bad enough that they have to ask Talespin to ring
nah
Basically, for anyone who is wondering, if you lose 3 games in a row C9 takes your qualifier spot
So Chipmunks have 2 more chances
Oh naisu
@pine star 'losers bracket' at bottom http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Overwatch_Contenders/Season_Zero/North_America/Open_Qualifier_2
I seriously want them to qualify, just for the memes lol
plz Team Liquid
Man Unfixed looks so wasted
you old fucks
just qualify and I will sub to Dahang for 3 more months
make it a whole year of sub
lul
it's too bad nobody but seagull streamed their matches today
makes it seem a little pointless for teams that arent pro
Where is Jamerson 
what happened?
FeelsPingMan
seagull about to go hanzo
Hanzo plz
TRANSCENDENCE AND SOUND BARRIER AT THE SAME TIME REEEEEEEEEEE
NEPAL YES
Jesus
they qualified though
this is only for better seeds
but they have done extremely well
Yeah ik
Normally
But Hammers themselves are playing under a lot of conditions
Ye
3:30 AM, ping, just finished TakeOver...
1-1 eV Liquid
So FUNKe and his team of GMs and 1 or 2 Masters tried Contenders, got a shit ton of plats and below teams before getting their ass handed to them by Liquid
All is right in the world
Some TF2 youtuber
What was their team name?
Crossfade I think
THAT FUCKING GAME THO
I'M DIAMONDS
seagull stream intense af, i love this shit
The sin
They 2-0'd everyone up to CLG
Too bad lol
Also just realised The is a sub for CLG
forgot he was still part of the org
Yeh he's just benched
Is CLG qualified???
Yes
FeelsNRGMan
lol seagull viewcount is destroying overcontenders
RIP Seagull
they still got one more game i think?
poor seagull
Yeah he got destroyed
Not yet
Danke @balmy wolf
wait
so Team Liquid vs Seagull's meme team?
wait not over
ajax jebaited me
OH COME ON
He was like
Rekt
"TL lost to toronto i mean envision"
then seagull said envision must be playing really well then
reee
@toxic yacht new avatar? http://prntscr.com/ffygw3
envision won
.......
so Seagull meme team vs Liquid?
Here he goes
Yep @balmy wolf

good q
Had talespin played today?
envision has a new 6th
Talespin played yesterday
It's been shadder today
The Boss Extreme difficulty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kNrIn8H32c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JnaWNMTmwk MGS3 MGS2 MGS1 MGSPW MGSV cancer aids MGS4
me rn
...
i heard nrg is kill
nrg is so kill
lol
if what i read is correct i think they lost 2-0 without ever taking the point in koth
wow
supposedly
apparently every ex-nrg player got further in the competition
jeez
i feel like NRG's issue isn't individual talent though
just maybe a team issue with either communication or decision-making
not having a stable roster must take its toll too i guess
yeah
can't blame them for bad results in contenders when they've probably only been scrimming with hooey for a week ish
on the other hand you look at c9 doing well with kaiser
hammers 
theyre going super aggro
HOLY SHIT
FUUUCK
SEAGLUL
i think he is pissed
same
fuck i'm missing it. is this on seagulls stream?
yeah
cheers
please
take my energy
I can't watch this 
ping, playing in 4:30AM in the morning, etc etc
Toronto terrible at control
much better at 2CP and payload
although it could have been 2 - 0
c9ed
yes...
poor seagull again
oh shit
seagull's meme magic just running out
yup, looking bleak
tbh i'm surprised they won the fight for first point
that last fight was really risky
they dont seem to have a leader, they just kinda call out stuff but noone says do this go that
you would think seagull is the leader but he is really passive
well ajax is supposed to be shotcaller
yeah
ill have to pay more attention i didnt notice him shot calling
yeah i think thats part of the problem
is flame like coaching them or something?
yeah
ah
Rip seagull
This match is going to be lit
I love how they are quick on changing comps
Yeah
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What is Seagull thinking right now
im glad this doesnt matter because im a streamer
LIQUID TAKE MY ENERGY
lol probably right
Liquid is just better overall
hmm
They are getting stomped for the first time
Seagulls team seems to be always getting fucked first
They are too scared
old men strength
for a meme team vs sponsored teams w/ much more practice together, they had a good run either way
Wtf
this fight never ends
The stall is insane
holy christ the stall
liquid stall is so good
there's an argument that a better a team stall, the better teamwork they have
Crazy stall jeezu
korea is god at stalling
that was a crazy kill on mercy
gg
TL looks so good
i had mixed feelings, i want both teams to go through
F
im a fan of TL too cuz of azk, dahang and rapha
F
now to the contender's official stream
now tell Seagull to host the official stream
lol seagull still w/ more viewers than official stream
no advertisement from blizz
time to watch my boi eff2ct
Apex later tonight too, so much ow
is today the day for zen right clicks or what
apex on monday?
Tuesday
it's in 7 hrs
i have to burp
now inb4 Seagull just drop off without even fucking hosting the Contenders stream
ok good he will host it
does envyus not play for a month or something?
what did seagull stream say? Who was in finals?
^
so who goes through? Whoever wins this one?
The skrimed someone and they are in some kinda finals
immortals with the x2 koreans outta nowhere
Semis and finals are for seeding purposes @jagged crater
what are the standings right now
woah thanks a_seagull 12k viewers
hmm same exact stage that seagull's team lost on
immortals wasnt using pharamacy and they won
Lol the fucking viewcount doubled
zenyatta + soldier seems to be the best counter to it
until this map which is god w/ pharmacy
Obviously...?
i mean it should be but when do you run mirror pharmacy vs zen+soldier?
What
I can't comprehend your question
the Contenders stream could be better
you seem to care about that lil bit too much wolf
map boop potential
Seagull can host the contenders whenever he wants, give the man a break
@trail beacon did you see the channel name?
He doesn't even have to host them at all
He's not the only one that cares
He have all his rights, and I will have all my rights to mock him relentless whether or not he does or doesn't
i'm not going to let his antic of hosting stream the siphoned all the viewership away from an important tournament, while also talked a big talk about him "caring the scene"
now that meme dreams are dead every contenders stream is gonna have to compete with him solo qing
will be funny
and by the way, this is the only time he actually host a tournament stream
Takeover 2 got shit viewership even though it is more important than Contender qualification
since he got his 33K viewers
but whatever. I'm just a try hard competitor who wants his scene to grow
THat's because people care more about seagull than tournaments
and he is a streamer with everyone's love.
even if he hosted asap, lots of people would leave
You should be thankful a person like seagull exists cuz otherwise overwatch viewership would be LAUGHABLY small
it's more because tournaments arent advertised until 5 minutes before they start
or not at all
if anything blizzard is to blame for poor viewership for not advertising at all
nothing on battlenet launcher
Blizzard never really tweet things about or PR about their shits
no tweets
which is about as ๐ก as it be
Seagull is practically carrying the competitive scene in terms of viewership
remember that today is only qualifiers, i'm sure when contenders start they'll bring the guns
I had both open tbh. Nobody else was covering contenders, and I liked Seagulls perpsective. But yeah, Blizzard has done an ass job of marketing Overwatch as an esport to its audience
and there barely any noise
tbh, there's not much to be hyped about in quals
Comms > casting tbh
also that (as in interesting)
and i'm not going to be thankful for someone who have been underperforming in the pro scene for like months on ends and got an audience who bought in the hype that he is a good players
hearing pov comms is rare because most people dont want to share their comms
and also, later in the month is going to be group stage
that's why i tuned to seagull
and i doubt Blizzard will shill their creation
now you're just salty
I agree with Beemoo
yes, I am salty.
i totally prefer hearing pov comms as well but it's a rare thing
like, you may not like him, but in no way not having him is better than having him
i get his importance. Doesn't mean that i'm not going to be salty about how he been conducting things.
im also really really happy that seagull decided to stream his comms , even if it was a meme team. It was so entertaining watching the hype and intensity from first pov
him streaming is his job
i don't think he did anything badly, the majority of people who watched seagull prob wouldn't watch takeover or contenders anyway
Honestly, it just feels so weird looking at the main page compared to the compitive sub, and just seeing how different the compitive community is from the main
overwatch has like the largest casual:competitive community ratio size compared to other esports
its comp scene is tiny
80% of seagull viewers prob dont watch any tournaments
the main page wouldnt be that bad if it wasn't 90% highlights and 10% art
and 20 percent bad suggestions
yeah, the daily highligh thread was so good
according @limber pine about 78K viewers press on that "other related subs" so I guess it is ok ๐คก
when they put all the shit highlights into 1 thread the sub was actually readable
but all the noobs got salty
no one will comment on my dva 4k in low mmr quickplay if it's a comment in a thread and not its own post
Blizzard will have no one else to blame once the casuals eventually drop it and go elsewhere
i wouldn't be surprised if they rejected just because of how the r/cow (and other of the comp scene) handled this
Also, you can't talk trash about mercy on the main page without getting destroyed, not that I would dare try it
like, every time this come into discussion, it becomes a "shitting r/ow circlejerk"
it's not like the pro scene is different, pros had a lot of knee jerk reactions to nerfs/buffs before
it's true
Yes, but they also tend to know the ins and outs of the game
what i'm saying is, let's dump this shit and go paladins /s
30k upvotes in 17 hrs
knee jerk reactions are pretty much universal
didn't some pros claim genji was dead at one point
Jfc
it was post-triple jump nerf
Not saying they're always right
but then again, that is the bell getting toll whenever an adjustment is imminent
I miss triple jump, that was so fun
the upcoming patch is making me feel funny though
my DPS guy in the team is practically salivating at it because he is an aim-based Hog main
while everyone else is screaming bloody murder about Roadhog getting the short end
when he is very balanced now
then again Blizzard is balancing for the 90%
which is NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IF YOU WANT YOUR GAME TO BE AN ESPORT
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I kind of like it, but 33 percent feels like alot. 25 percent with a slight amount more time between shots.
so who would you say is the best team in contenders so far? It's hard to tell.
is this "balancing for casuals" actually confirmed or just a meme?
top down balancing is healthiest even if you're not aiming for your game to be a top esport
i think every team lost a few rounds to another?
TN esports
outside of invited ones
@wintry matrix it is basically a triangle of "what the community thinks, what we think, and what in reality is". But for the most part yes, they are balancing team for casual
did onigod stop streaming?
@jagged crater until otherwise, Rogue and nV
they are the defacto king of NA OW
the rest is fighting for a chance to take them down
and any of them can win in any given days
i dunno, i think for the most part they got it right
Toronto looks good, Selfless can't be counted out yet, and LGE still looks pretty good. But man, this new Faze roster and FNRGFE are looking red hot
Immortals is looking great with their Korean acquisition though
Agilities looks sharp and Grim looks less shaky
It's really close all the way around
Nomy and Aythen might not giving Agilities and Grim proper care so that their DPS duos looks pedestrian in lenths
If Selfless can play at the level they've historically shown I think they'll win season zero
If they keep being inconsistent no way
When I was thinking about League, I wanted all the teams to be at a similar level, like this, Rather than the New Vegas Rogues or whatever just thrashing the other teams.
they probably will pray for someone to take out CLG, Team Liquid and YIKES though
daaang seagull's team got 8th but were counted out cuz of c9, that's so unfortunate
even tho they were like 0-3'd, they had a relatively closer match vs their first match CLG
C9 might take it tbh, Kaiser is one hell of an addition
ResidentSleeper Dummy ResidentSleeper is ResidentSleeper the ResidentSleeper problem ResidentSleeper
yikes and selfless didnt even make top 8
Hammers is a dark horse of this I think
They are going to NA right after Takeover 2
with team house and everything
Very possible Hammers wins
Yeah, I have no idea what they are capable of yet
out of like what 500+ teams, all the 15 teams that made it are not unknowns so no crazy unknowns out of nowhere
a few unsponsored teams
but recognizable players
If C9 continues like they have at TakeOver, they win
is kungarna a sponsor?
A few close ones, I kind of wanted a surprise. Still, some of those teams, should they stay together, could be big in the future
Kungarna is unsigned
Hammers took maps off of C9 in LAN, and only lost outright to Movistar, who C9 had to pull everything out to win
so there's 3 unsponsored teams
so Hammers maybe just another X factor
that made it
Kungarna, Yikes, FNRGFE, YGGP
But FNRGFE and Yikes are basically pro teams just with no org
Yep
As are kungarna
FNRGFE is like an amalgamation of the best players from other teams











