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balmy wolf
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how did they won that

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how

floral harness
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still capping point A lul

toxic yacht
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wtf eU throwing

floral harness
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eU is baaad bro

pliant ivy
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oh

floral harness
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lol they will cap B too ?

balmy wolf
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we are fucking reverse caster curse Rogue lol

floral harness
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omg ahahah

pliant ivy
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HAHA

amber ember
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omfg

dusty surge
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lol rip

toxic yacht
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yeah, eU threw that lol

balmy wolf
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"Rogue still can't 2CP"
Rogue cap 2 points

supple nymph
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i looked away for 30 seconds

pliant ivy
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4*

supple nymph
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did it start yet

amber ember
floral harness
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cap 2 points in 1 minute

balmy wolf
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Boombox was the solution - eUnited

forest raven
toxic yacht
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lol

floral harness
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looool

balmy wolf
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WHAT

supple nymph
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FUCKING WIPED OUT

pliant ivy
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who is rogue adren?

supple nymph
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Caster: "WAUUUUUU????!!"

floral harness
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I think Nico's genji is a good indicator for the gap between the west and KR

balmy wolf
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not really

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different region

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different meta

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therefore sometimes when people cross over

floral harness
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Is it really ?

balmy wolf
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they will chart uncharted territory

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yes

toxic yacht
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yes

balmy wolf
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there's a reason why KR never take to triple tanks and quad tanks when NA/EU was drunk on it

toxic yacht
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why did they nano nico?

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this may actually have fucked their full hold

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he already hard sword

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๐Ÿคฆ

balmy wolf
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AKM and co actually back off

toxic yacht
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Rogue doing exactly what eU did

balmy wolf
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wot

pliant ivy
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this happened with LH

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again

toxic yacht
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rip

supple nymph
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REEEE

amber ember
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hooly shit

floral harness
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Rogue's throwing

dusty surge
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haaaaaaa

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wtf is even happening

toxic yacht
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this is exactly how eU threw

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...

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wtf is this

forest raven
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SO MUCH THROWING

supple nymph
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omg they are chugging so much water and redbull

amber ember
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unkoe looks really tired

toxic yacht
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Fischer just laughing his ass off because of all of the throws

amber ember
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he was rubbing his eyes and stuff at the start too

dusty surge
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What were they even planning with that grouping up in the ramen shop?

floral harness
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No it's his everyday face lul

pliant ivy
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didnt rogue lived on korea for 3 months?

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or 2

toxic yacht
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month and a half

balmy wolf
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those plays never worked out well for Rogue. Everytime they went for an ambush push THEY NEVER FUCKING PULL IT OFF

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why would they still insists on doing it

toxic yacht
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I can remember exactly one moment when it worked

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vs nV

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at hollywood

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when they all hid in the building in front of spawn

floral harness
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They're stubborn

toxic yacht
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apart from that they always threw when they did that

balmy wolf
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geezus Rogue

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instead of full hold

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now eUnited can cap only a third of the point

toxic yacht
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both threw this so hard

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eU should have won during round 3

balmy wolf
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so far this had been a throwing morning so far. Cyclowns doing their best impression of pre shuffle C9, and now this

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i'm going to sleep

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lol

toxic yacht
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lmao

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understandable

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good night

pliant ivy
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gn

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my first draw on esports

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WHOA

dusty surge
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rip

pliant ivy
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i take this back

toxic yacht
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eU should have won this 3 rounds ago

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they just delayed their win, lul

floral harness
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They deserve the loss

amber ember
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is that boombox or sharyk between kruise and vallu

pliant ivy
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coach must slap them some sense

toxic yacht
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boom, I think

supple nymph
rapid oxide
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Don't wanna jump on Boombox LUL

supple nymph
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that guy knows

rapid oxide
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But he isn't playing that well

toxic yacht
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...poks playing a better zen than boombox tbh

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but it may just be the teams they're playing against

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also, morte used to play main support until beyblade

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he was always a beast zen

floral harness
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well

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rip eU

amber ember
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zappis' tracer and soons tracer are pretty different calibres

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venom mine kill LUL

forest raven
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๐Ÿ•ฏ eU ๐Ÿ•ฏ

pliant ivy
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guys i got the feel that korea is better because of APEX when the EU NA teams still waiting for a good league

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blizz needs to hurry up so the west team will close the cap

forest raven
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You do realise Contenders is about to begin its qualifiers

pliant ivy
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ye

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but the league is still far away

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APEX is ready for s4

toxic yacht
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AZK wot

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also, they almost c9'd it

supple nymph
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obliterated

dusty surge
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Holy crap... there's more matches after this?

forest raven
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Yeah dude

floral harness
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I can't see how OWL (if it's mostly filled with western teams) can be more competitive than APEX

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Koreans are try hards for real

supple nymph
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LMAO

dusty surge
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I'm so used to APEX and only catching the last round on a slow day. How am I supposed to get anything done with my entire work day having matches going on? :D

supple nymph
rapid oxide
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too bad Rogue is EU

pliant ivy
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haha

supple nymph
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"GIT GUD"

tired escarp
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LUUUL

wary falcon
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Rogue - NiP now?

pliant ivy
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Yes

supple nymph
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ITS MADE OF REDDIT

floral harness
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WE DID IT REDDIT

pliant ivy
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Ford why aren't you using bettettv

supple nymph
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???

tired escarp
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not using betterttv for twitch

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LUUL

pliant ivy
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Try that app

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Twitch chat will get better

supple nymph
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BetterTTV?

pliant ivy
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Yep

supple nymph
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ok

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looks the same?

pliant ivy
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Search the options

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Enable whatever you like

supple nymph
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????

pliant ivy
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It's bellow the chat

floral harness
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Your life will change with BTTV

pliant ivy
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Did the game started?

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I'm on mobile now

supple nymph
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not yet but looks like it's about to

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wtf is he talking about

vestal mortar
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I join the stream and see this mouse ad

supple nymph
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I N F O M E R C I A L

rapid oxide
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hold for a bunch of minutes and you will see god like beards

wintry matrix
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i missed NIP

solid spear
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Rip

pliant ivy
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score?

solid spear
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Rogue up 1-0 on NIP

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Tied 1-1 on Nepal rn

balmy wolf
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BRACKET WHERE?

wanton delta
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Need 1 person for a 4 stacj placement matches

balmy wolf
wanton delta
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cheers

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My bad

wary falcon
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NiP won 1 point?

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Didn't expect that

dusty surge
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Yeah. Quite handily, too.

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Haven't done much since then, though.

balmy wolf
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Okay but where are the brackets??

dusty surge
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Groups & scoring, no brackets.

balmy wolf
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Where??

pliant ivy
balmy wolf
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WTF REU IS OUT ALREADY??

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ugh

pliant ivy
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reu?

dusty surge
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It's round robin. No one's "out" yet.

pliant ivy
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eU?

balmy wolf
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Okay thank god

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Yeah

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Reunited, eUnited

wary falcon
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Next match is eunited vs cyclowns

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This rein dodge by soon

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^^

balmy wolf
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That was pretty matadorlike lol

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Rogue wearing Korean jerseys thinkthink

supple nymph
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ROGUE ARE COMING FOR YA

balmy wolf
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This puts in perspective how OP KR is

supple nymph
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next two matches are vs EU NRG

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booring

balmy wolf
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_> REU is my team

pliant ivy
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wow rogue is so chill

wary falcon
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match is over?

pliant ivy
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no

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rog 3-0 nip

supple nymph
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mentally yes

pliant ivy
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payload map now

quasi python
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is it bo7?

pliant ivy
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SoOn Mccree!!!!

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nope

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4 maps

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the most maps wins gets first pos

supple nymph
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but rogue has 3 already

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so they win

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????

rapid oxide
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Its like 4 bo1

pliant ivy
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they will play 12 games

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with 3 teams

quasi python
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so if nip win this map wutt happend

wary falcon
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Nothing

supple nymph
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so why even play this map?

wary falcon
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For stats

pliant ivy
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its ranked by the map wins

wary falcon
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System counts maps not games

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So teams will play 4 maps no matter what

quasi python
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ouh

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so not bo5?

pliant ivy
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nop

wary falcon
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Nope

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Four "best of 1"

pliant ivy
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and I like this setup

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so they will play all maps

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time will tell

wary falcon
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I hate it tbf because pinnacle has only win bet

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So if draw happens

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gege

pliant ivy
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jackie........

rapid oxide
pliant ivy
rapid oxide
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Best way to get rid of jetlag lol

supple nymph
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so you could win all your matches but if they are close you could still not get to the group stages?

wary falcon
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Well what do you mean by close win?

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3-1?

pliant ivy
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if this is goes 3-1

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rogue is 6-2

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and cyclones is somewhat easy for them

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and nip 4-4

wary falcon
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4 edits in a row <_<

pliant ivy
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still not used to this new keyboard

balmy wolf
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fragi's shatters literally only hit aKm lol

dusty surge
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Wait

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Why is the score 3-0 if they're still playing?

pliant ivy
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its not bo5

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its playing 4 maps

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for the most wins

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from maps

dusty surge
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Oh, all the matches have gone 3-1, so I assuemd bo5. :P

wary falcon
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I prefer good ol' bo3

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Helegrind: Don't lie chat, they play until Rogue loses

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hahaha

gentle shuttle
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how long has take tv been live my childrens

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also is the quals stages being played out on LAN or online

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nm

naive plover
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"they play until Rogue loses"
lmao

balmy wolf
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The quals were online

gentle shuttle
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foof i've been out of the loop

balmy wolf
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It started 5 and a half hours ago

gentle shuttle
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christ

balmy wolf
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This is the last map of the 3rd series

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in Group A

wary falcon
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and then 2 amazing games with CYCLOWNS

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stay tuned

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4:0

supple nymph
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๐Ÿ‘

balmy wolf
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That. Deflect.

supple nymph
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LOL

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I NEED MY ADDERALL BALM

pliant ivy
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Jason lol

balmy wolf
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NERF OR NOTHING

wary falcon
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game just started

balmy wolf
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phew

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That was almost a Faze

solid spear
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I love Reinforce lol

rapid oxide
balmy wolf
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I need to find that part of the stream for a better gif

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lol

blazing parrot
solid spear
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that was a team I mentioned a couple weeks ago being a small org with a team with average results

balmy wolf
pine star
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F

toxic yacht
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F

iron cedar
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How is mercy in the pro leagues?
just curious

wary falcon
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With Pharah

solid spear
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well Pharmercy teams run her quite a bit so teams like Yikes, CLG, RNG she isnt really used outside of those comps ever though

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Euniteds comp is so weird

balmy wolf
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2cp

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but NOT TODAY

wary falcon
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unfixed's sombra is the worst sombra i have ever seen on pro level

clever wagon
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Wait eU already 3? How many do they have to win

supple nymph
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F

balmy wolf
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Groups is based off map wins

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not series wins

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So theres 4 matches played every series

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1 from each mode

balmy wolf
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wtf is Kruise doing today??

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Niiice

supple nymph
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last rogue stomp of the day inc

blazing parrot
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does anyone else get annoyed that seagull needs to justify streaming still

dusty surge
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Is he even going to go pro anymore? Probably makes enough money streaming at this point.

supple nymph
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it's not his fault but it's annoying that the only major lan tournament outside KR only gets half the viewers

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when he's just streaming placements or whatever

balmy wolf
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He's gonna go pro for OWL

blazing parrot
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inb4 reddit rants that seagull is hurting ow esports DGob

balmy wolf
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Playing with a team for OC

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half stream team half serious team

supple nymph
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hope he remembers to register

supple nymph
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relevant to taketv stream

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rogue vs EU NRG starting

balmy wolf
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How is Cyclowns the EU nrg

supple nymph
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hyped team, down 2 players days before tournament, performing badly

balmy wolf
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lol Rise Nations

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that team had been underperforming for a fucking long time

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it is no surprise that they'd get drop

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Who was the other player that left NRG days before a tournament

supple nymph
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creative license

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come on

balmy wolf
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???

supple nymph
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?

balmy wolf
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what are you on about

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eh........

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Seagull?

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I already knew Seagull

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unless somehow you mistook Talespin for him

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i was asking who the other was

supple nymph
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ajax

balmy wolf
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Ajax get cut

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ajax got cut weeks after seagull was benched

supple nymph
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it's not literally the same but you see the similarities...

solid spear
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not really

balmy wolf
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your question is vague, and there's no instances of people leaving NRG before a big tourny

solid spear
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Cyclowns had 2 players poached right before a big tourney

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its not the same

balmy wolf
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And theres a big difference between a team getting popular streamers/popular pros, gaining hype and then being shit

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and then a team having really good results then losing 2 players right before a big lan

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and then performing bad

solid spear
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yeah Cyclowns was a significantly better team than NRG ever was

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like idk

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wachu meen

supple nymph
balmy wolf
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It isnt, he said "2 players down days before a tournament" and i asked who was the other player that left before a tournament @balmy wolf

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just reread the convo, yeah

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sounds confusing as fuck

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Any conversation with Ford is shit overall

solid spear
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Polo pls

clever wagon
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I really can't see the similarities

balmy wolf
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zoning dragonblade lol

dusty surge
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Has Rogue lost a map yet today?

balmy wolf
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Yeah

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oh shit, B1shop casting?

floral harness
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unkoe depressed as fck

balmy wolf
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Bishop is an analyst it would seem

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a very quiet one aswell

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He barely talked throughout numbani

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he is more talkative on stream

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the casters need to encourage him to talk more

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Is he the C9 guy?

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he is their coach

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omg that shutdown

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That was one clutch bomb

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what was that disenage and rotation from Cyclowns

supple nymph
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looks back at redbull fridge

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MUST HAVE MORE

balmy wolf
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AKM not playing with glasses

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Soon also not playing with his glasses as well

supple nymph
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caffeine making them either too blind for glasses to matter or seeing too good

clever wagon
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Wait wait

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Sombra? Unkoe on Tracer

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Whoa

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AKM DVa

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Is Rogue just yoloing from exhaustion now?

balmy wolf
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i mean people want to see Rogue from different looks

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and they are doing it

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what more can you ask

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Rogue still can't 2CP

clever wagon
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They're tired

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It seems

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I'll give them that

balmy wolf
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They're pros

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That doesnt matter lol

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12 maps in one day is more than your usual scrim block

clever wagon
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Were you or were you not listening to the shit Rogue had to deal with off-scene?

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And also that

balmy wolf
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No

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but if you don't want your players to be tired you use subs I'd say

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2 days stranded in the shittiest airport in the world, AKM losing his glasses.....

clever wagon
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You don't usually do 12 maps and staying on scene over what

supple nymph
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why didnt they get a motel or something? are they broke?

clever wagon
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More than 6 hours

balmy wolf
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That's some bad luck lol

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@supple nymph no hotel it seems

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they had to sleep in the airport

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That is pretty tough

clever wagon
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If you didn't notice already 7+ man roster still isn't quite the common thing

balmy wolf
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Now I feel bad for them...

clever wagon
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And finding talent that gels with the rest of the team takes time

balmy wolf
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If they have to play that much during the OWL then it should be more common imo

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Going from living out of a hotel in Korea for a few weeks straight to living in an airport for 2 days

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feelsbad for rogue

clever wagon
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There's no incentive in constantly rotating ringers either

supple nymph
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were they stranded because of the software problems?

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or something else

balmy wolf
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no it was before it

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we need another Assault map - Blizzard

clever wagon
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OWL most likely isn't going to be this extreme

balmy wolf
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and also, extra players = extra salary

clever wagon
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There'd be more teams playing thus more down/break time for teams that aren't playing

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It's that simple

final river
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gotta love Tracer bullying winston

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oh nice this is lan?

balmy wolf
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Then it's the fault of the org

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They're supposed to care for their players

supple nymph
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if it wasnt during the software thing why couldnt they get a room?

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it's by london right

balmy wolf
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how the fuck can an org help if a. there's no hotel to book in and b. their team had to spoon with each other 2 days in Heathrow?

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sending international hookers?

clever wagon
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The fuck is this software thing you're talking about?

balmy wolf
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airport hotels are expensive

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you'd need to book it in advance

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and UK is expensive as fuck

clever wagon
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In that case you'd be racing with other flight passengers to find places to stay

supple nymph
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take a taxi 5 minutes to another motel?

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idk dude i dont see the problem

balmy wolf
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so they just let their players sleep on the ground

clever wagon
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If they didn't manage to find a place to stay then yeah there's nothing the org can do

balmy wolf
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All hotels within 5 minutes of Heathrow are expensive as fuck dude lol

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London is an expensive place, and you'd need to get out of the suburbs to find hotels, as most of hotels in the inner London and outside of the airport are expensive as fuck

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You'd have to go 30+ minutes out to get ones that arent booked up or expensive

clever wagon
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Did you not notice this flights canceled issue that might as well lead to all flight passengers being forced to find places to stay first come first serve?

supple nymph
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first 'there are none' now 'they are too expensive'

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ok thanks that's what I wanted to know lol

clever wagon
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Jfc

balmy wolf
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idk man

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there are none to book because they are all too expensive

clever wagon
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Common sense

balmy wolf
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put two and two together, mate.

clever wagon
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Even if they had the money it's not unlikely it'd be first come first serve for the available nearest places anyway

balmy wolf
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I suppose eSports is still lightyears away from irl sports then

final river
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why call your team Clowns

clever wagon
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No shit

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If it weren't the case we wouldn't be struggling as much to build OWL

balmy wolf
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comparing an industry with barely 20 years old vs something with 100+ years to build

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Have troubles been confirmed?

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mostly is from anon sources

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some of them are credible, some are not

clever wagon
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What else do you need confirmed

balmy wolf
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Well there's also football teams that are younger than even eSports orgs

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but they have more money

clever wagon
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The industry itself

balmy wolf
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Oh lol, misread

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I guess

clever wagon
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Even if an individual team is younger than esport orgs they still have a more solid and developed base to build upon

balmy wolf
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Because they're bound to a location yeah

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That's what OWL is trying to emulate

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You have to get the local people involved when it comes to sports teams

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given the online nature of esport

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everyone is kind of on the edge of their pants with that

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Yeah

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but most sports teams have more fans from outside of their area

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However, if you have no connection to your own location there's no point in marteking it like so

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Japan's football league imploded after a couple seasons because the clubs felt disconnected from their cities

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Hopefully the same won't happen to the OWL then

supple nymph
balmy wolf
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"book a new flight"

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did their other flight fucked off or something?

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so they arrived on Saturday, and only leave on Tuesday, and only a night in the hotel

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so 2 days hotel-less still true

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kek

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ford trying to do research, still fails

supple nymph
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๐Ÿ‘€

balmy wolf
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Exposed LOL

supple nymph
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did you read it

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the had a hotel in london

balmy wolf
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When did the other teams arrive?

supple nymph
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on sunday- I'm assuming until they departed unless they decided to go homeless again

balmy wolf
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roughly same time, but except for C9 every other team is EU

supple nymph
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so they were homeless for saturday

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the tweet you posted was refering to them staying in london since saturday

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not being homeless

balmy wolf
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Man, Heathrow is such a mess

supple nymph
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yes, saturday they were homeless

balmy wolf
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They're still kicking ass

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who woke him

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lol

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Poor Unkoe

simple scarab
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guys ? fps in ow u need as many as ur hz monitor ?

balmy wolf
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UNKOEEEEEE

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@simple scarab yes

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oh lol the callback from the Atlantic Showdown

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Unkoe omg

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Those sleeps were too good

simple scarab
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ty

balmy wolf
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B1shop taking notes lol

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So Rogue gets number 1 and Cyclowns is out

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depends on how NIP vs eUnited

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if NIP won a few maps though then they are through

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otherwise....

clever wagon
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Did Rogue -- ok

balmy wolf
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NIPS already has more map wins though

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Than Cylcowns

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lol sitting back down

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lol AKM with the deadpan "really"

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lol we are used to losing on 2CP now

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AKM is so done

clever wagon
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Right

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C9 was one of the last teams to arrive aren't they

balmy wolf
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lol AKM doesn't want to eat healthy

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looool

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NIP just need to win one map

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lol

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What happens if NIPS loses all their maps?

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They still have one more map win than Cyclowns

solid spear
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they have 3 map wins

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theyre in anyway

balmy wolf
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That's what I thought

solid spear
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the graphic is wrong

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Eunited has 5 wins and NIP 3

clever wagon
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So it's like

solid spear
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so if NIP were to 3-1 EU theyd actually get 2nd

clever wagon
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TakeOver is run in like a big LAN house or smth to live up to that "esports taken home" slogan or smth

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Is what I got

balmy wolf
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it is their intent yeah

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if you want something similar, check out cs_summitt

clever wagon
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And everything is set up just the way it is to make it feel like home

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Beyond the Summit right

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I noticed their couch casting style, yeah

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And the lo-fi music in the down time is a perfect cherry on top

balmy wolf
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yeah

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fun fact: Beyond The Summit was applying for a LAN

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we could have OW_Summit

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but I guess the Contenders is good enough to tide things over

clever wagon
#

Fuck that would be nice

#

The Summit name would surely have been a huge boost

#

Wait now that I took a second look

#

Was the girl that was with Rogue for their first match up Lizlin herself?

balmy wolf
#

yes

rapid oxide
#

Liz and Windz are way to close on pics

simple scarab
#

guys owguys ow is diyng?

rapid oxide
#

Yes

#

It doesn't have LoL world viewers so OW it's clearly dead

limber pine
#

moar esports

clever wagon
#

Lul

#

I mean fuck, if Blizz would just shill for these tourneys for a little bit in their Battlenet client

balmy wolf
#

They did for Takeover

#

and its peak was like maybe 11k

clever wagon
#

For TakeOver 1

#

Hmm

balmy wolf
#

what

clever wagon
#

Nvm

#

Was stupid to check the client now

#

5:26 AM and I slept from 10 PM to 2 AM

rapid oxide
#

Another reason to dislike Seagull

#

Naisu

iron cedar
#

@rapid oxide Why dislike him?

clever wagon
#

Retzi FA now

rapid oxide
#

Overrated, below average skill, his fans are annoying, leave the team 2 days before a tournament, use contenders just as a tool for more viewers, stream while a tournament is running ("i want to help ow esport" lol)

clever wagon
vast berry
#

Why is there an Esports chat on a casual game?

balmy wolf
#

don't take the bait

vast berry
#

It like me adding Esports to Mark Kart discord

clever wagon
#

100 healslut Mercy, screaming they're doing something and they deserve rights like feminazi screeching men are trash

rapid oxide
#

Why they renamed the tf2 discord? Thinkeyes

fierce geode
#

my fav game is mark kart

final river
#

When I do end up playing mercy its annoying when my team demands rez.

fierce geode
#

and his brotherr louis

delicate sparrow
#

I main yogi in mark kart

solid spear
#

Ill be 100% honest

#

I dont like it when pros stream during tournaments

#

I mean hes allowed to do what he wants he doesnt owe anything to the scene but it just seems like idk

feral solar
#

i dont think its his fault at all but that's just my opinion

solid spear
#

Its not even a Seagull thing I just generally think if youre a pro you shouldnt be trying to take viewers away from a major tournament

delicate sparrow
#

I don't think it's really his fault or his problem but I think it's disingenuous for him to say he supports the scene and then stream during one of the only big tournaments we've had this year

#

I remember watching enigma stream like a year ago (does he even stream anymore) and he got off like 10 minutes before some eu tournament and told everyone they should go watch it bc it would be exciting. I think if seagull actually cared about the scene growing he'd do shit like that

feral solar
#

i guess but i dont think people should expect something like that from everyone

supple nymph
#

blame blizzard or the tournaments themselves for being less interesting to most viewers then someone solo qing or doing scrims

last lantern
#

@delicate sparrow agreed

#

thats entirely hypocritical

supple nymph
jovial eagle
#

seagull best gull

supple nymph
#

rip

clever wagon
#

What the fuck?

#

Why would they bench Aythen

balmy wolf
#

interesting choice from IMT

#

Aythen is good on Ana but he seems underperforming with every other heroes

#

if it were me though Aythen is probably not the first one to get benched

clever wagon
#

I can't think of anybody in IMT underperforming below the rest of the team really

#

Like far as I can see everything they do is the result of team effort, in good and in bad

#

So... Lol?

pine star
#

dafuq just happened

clever wagon
#

Things

#

Ikr

pine star
#

Why would they bench my boy Aythen?

solid spear
#

WAIT NO

#

NOT HYPE

#

Whyyyy

clever wagon
#

What the fuck

#

Oreo is veteran

#

How old are you, a grandpa?

pine star
#

He's 12

solid spear
#

12 1/2*

pine star
#

Kapppa

solid spear
#

Tmw Aythen benched before Dummy

pine star
#

IFKR!!!

clever wagon
#

Don't laugh dude

pine star
#

Like what on this green earth

clever wagon
#

We should get our pitchforks and torches

balmy wolf
#

Aythen is a small part of the IMT problem

clever wagon
#

That's where you're wrong Sulli

balmy wolf
#

they had been in the Tier 2 purgatory for a long time now

clever wagon
#

Our earth is not green

solid spear
#

Nrg ain't even tier 2 lul

pine star
#

Shut up Gankyou

balmy wolf
#

Aythen is a solid Ana player but he underperformed in every other support

#

basically it is The's situation

#

where he is a solid Mercy

#

but not up to par with Ana or Zen

pine star
clever wagon
#

I mean I guess

pine star
#

You're actually not wrong

#

But

#

Reeeeee

clever wagon
#

IMT can and is capable to aim higher than the current NRG

pine star
#

REEEEEEEEE

clever wagon
#

So even if it's not Dummy-level they did what they need to do

balmy wolf
#

idk, IMT is just having a lot of solid players but only Agilities seems to be destined to be a star player

clever wagon
#

While NRG is just

balmy wolf
#

I think they need a solid overhaul

clever wagon
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

balmy wolf
#

I'd get xRetzi to try for IMT, actually

#

as convenience as that sounds

pine star
#

And bench Hyped? thenkerino

clever wagon
#

So Agilities - Retzi for offense?

pine star
#

I mean

balmy wolf
#

bench Grim

pine star
#

Retzi can play Zarya - Hog

#

With Grim, Retzi and Agilities they can run both triple dps and a variety of 2/2/2 comps

balmy wolf
#

probably not with Grim

#

there are a few good off tanks around

#

there's an off tank from MVP Space of all team that is LF NA team

solid spear
#

I dont expect them to bench Grim

pine star
#

Yeah

#

Not gonna happen

solid spear
#

Even if I do agree his inconsistencies is part of their issues

balmy wolf
#

they are treating him as the star player when he had been anything but

#

he had like a solid stretch of 4 months to prove that he is a shutdown NA DPS, but instead he get outclassed by literally everyone else.

#

obviously, that's not ideal.

#

Grim is not the only one who alternates between mad carrying and playing like a pleb though

solid spear
#

Plus hes been on the team forever and there's not a lot of better available Na hitscans, we cant just assume Gecko players are available cuz rise dropped them rn

balmy wolf
#

xRetzi is a FA

solid spear
#

Agilities is clearly their best player though

#

Oh is he, rip gecko?

balmy wolf
#

possibly.

#

there's actually a lot of options in the FA right now

pine star
#

I'm surprised RNG hasn't dropped their roster

balmy wolf
#

Coolmatt69 for Hyped, Grim for Buds, Custa for Aythen

pine star
#

Is Buds any good still?

balmy wolf
#

sunk cost i think

#

Buds is super solid as a support DPS

pine star
#

Haven't seen him play in forever

balmy wolf
#

or even Talespin

#

there are a lot of option

#

but seems like IMT is hesistant to break their young core

pine star
#

Talespin and Agilities kind of negate each other tho

balmy wolf
#

after all, they did won NGE and OCS (even as shit as those twos are)

#

Talespin can probably slot in the flex/off tank slot

#

and allow them to run Genji/Pharah dive

pine star
#

Neh

#

Not liking it

balmy wolf
#

of course this is me just spit balling

pine star
#

They'd lack a hitscan

#

lol

balmy wolf
#

Buds, xRetzi?

#

either way, let's see what IMT will do

pine star
#

Maybe they just benched him for reasons other than performance

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

solid spear
#

I dont think theyre gonna make the sweeping changes you think they arre

pine star
#

And that's the only move they're making

solid spear
#

still Hype gone from IMT

#

feelsbad

pine star
#

Hyped*?

solid spear
#

Aythen

pine star
#

Ah lel

solid spear
#

Back on Sodipop when the boys were Hype and Hyped

pine star
#

When does contender start?

#

This saturday?

solid spear
#

I think so not sure

#

do wonder who the IMT sub is though

#

maybe its Custa and they thought to upgrade

balmy wolf
#

Oh wow ex rise actually made their new team name "Midnight sucks" lol

pine star
#

Phaz at it again smh

solid spear
#

lul

clever wagon
#

Lurking Phaz's twitter

jagged crater
#

what time does contenders start?

balmy wolf
supple nymph
#

@jagged crater North American Open Qualifiers: Saturday, June 3rd and Sunday, June 4th โ€“ Open Qualifier Matches now begin at 9:00 AM PDT.

#

I thought I read somewhere that the stream didnt start until much later like 8pm est or something

#

but i cant find it

#

depends what time zone you're in i guess

jagged crater
#

ok

limber pine
#

stream only does Ro8 no?

clever wagon
#

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6ep9ua/roadhogs_changes_seem_like_an_attempt_at_a/

From internal testing Blizzard already knows Roadhog can't combo most of the roster anymore, so that is intentional. They don't want him to be the squishy deleter anymore, but they're giving him an increased ROF, clip size, and smaller hitbox to help account for it, it's not a straight nerf. To me it looks like they're not trying to knock him down a peg like they had with Ana, but change his focus so he's not so frustrating to play against. The Great Hog Senpai also had a great bit on this yesterday

#

What smaller hitbox? Head? That doesn't change the fact that he's a walking piggy worth 900 HP to farm ults from

#

Barely have any effect on other heroes building ult using him

supple nymph
#

did anyone see when the deadline for contenders registration is?

#

i cant find it in the rules

#

or anywhere

clever wagon
#

The only difference now is that he can't consistently insta-delete and punish those who are careless enough when doing it

#

Also no, I have no idea when the deadline is

supple nymph
#

Team registration will close at 11:59 PM PDT on Friday, June 2nd for North America and 11:59 PM CEST (2:59 PM PDT) Friday, June 9th for Europe.

#

man that was hard to find

balmy wolf
#

I wonder why its at 59

#

and not on the hour

#

Also @clever wagon Tracers relied quite heavily on roadhogs fat head to gain ult very very quickly, and with his new RoF and larger clip size he will have an easier time dealing with tracers trying to farm ult outside of his hook.

clever wagon
#

Ee well, idk

balmy wolf
#

Not saying he still isnt an ult battery, its just harder now

clever wagon
#

I imagine the competent Tracers will still have the blink management skill to cope with that

balmy wolf
#

If you want to hit the same headshots you did from medium range before, you would have to get close and risk dying to his very fast scrap gun

#

So now, if the Tracer is smart, they will stay the same distance away they always have

#

Hence gaining less ult charges because of less headshots

#

and hog has an easier time killing her

blazing parrot
#

is this late?

balmy wolf
#

so Liquid Aurace is out?

#

interesting

#

w-what

#

one of the more left field acquisition i think

blazing parrot
balmy wolf
#

Just posted kvo

blazing parrot
#

two different links?

balmy wolf
#

that link is in the tweet linked

blazing parrot
#

ah

balmy wolf
#

basically Team Liquid is now Team Oldmen

#

Old Men + Baby

pine star
#

Whaaaaaaaat

#

Turns out Hulk is not french after all pixelThenk

balmy wolf
#

now to wait for Team Liquid to kick him because he is not NA enough

#

lolz

jagged crater
#

hulk as TL coach!? oh gosh

#

i liked hulk from envy, upset he left

#

but i also like the TL guys so this is neat

balmy wolf
#

another reason to love liquid even more

pine star
balmy wolf
#

IMT trying out Custa

#

what a surprise

rapid oxide
#

HULK got fired because they lost APEX

balmy wolf
#

eh

#

HULK is still with Rogue in Takeover 2

#

More like still at Takeover 2

vocal yoke
#

Hulk was just a trial coach and I suppose they had him in Korea because he played 3 seasons of apex and could provide them with details about the playstyle of top teams

feral solar
#

i didnt know ogn semis were BO7 this season

#

that should be good

spring lintel
#

Guys

#

Is there a pro called tode?

balmy wolf
#

no clue

spring lintel
#

Guess not then

balmy wolf
#

did you look him up?

spring lintel
#

Played with him and he is not playing seriously

#

He is a master now

gentle shuttle
#

what happened to IMT that they'd need to try out Custa

balmy wolf
#

underperforming?

#

IMT had been underperforming for a team that was supposedly tier 1 for a long time

toxic yacht
#

they benched aythen because they hate asians

solid spear
toxic yacht
#

vet

balmy wolf
#

btw

#

Team Liquid actually have my respect for investing in OW for so long

#

even when their team for the most part had been perennial bottom dweller

#

until recently

pliant ivy
#

Team liquid is blizz lover

#

They will make team for every game blizz releases

stoic dragon
#

Im here

#

Whoo go kdp

balmy wolf
#

why go for these silly matches thonk

stoic dragon
#

It was free

balmy wolf
#

oh right then

stoic dragon
#

It apparently only costs like 5 bucks to begin with

#

But work acquaintance gave em to me

toxic yacht
#

it's cheap af, it's overwatch

#

why not go?

stoic dragon
#

I saw mvp space outside smoking

toxic yacht
#

also, he can see rascal irl

stoic dragon
#

Sojum understands me

#

And my man crush on rascal

#

If you hear someone yelling when they dick around after two wins

#

Youll know its me

toxic yacht
#

lmao

stoic dragon
#

Ill boo the casters for you guys

#

BRING BACK MONTECARLO

#

BEAUTIFUL TRACKING YOU JACKASSES

glad chasm
#

So how does the team selection thing work for final 8? What teams get first choice and who's getting stuck with kdp?

forest raven
#

The top seed of each group pull a number between 1 - 4. They choose who they play against out of the second seed teams. 1 and 2 choose their team and group, 3 chooses their team, and 4 gets stuck with lucky last (who will more than likely be KDP) @glad chasm

glad chasm
#

@forest raven what does choose your group mean? Like 1-2 can choose where on the bracket to be placed?

forest raven
#

Yep

#

Quarters has two groups of four

#

And number 3 can still choose which group they play in if 1 and 2 choose to go into groups A and B, respectively

glad chasm
#

So I'm guessing if LWB or LH get 1 whoever gets 2 chooses the opposite group, if nV gets 1 whoever gets 2 more than likely chooses to be in the same group as nV

forest raven
#

Potentially

#

Whoever gets 1st pick would probably choose the winner of Space/CONBOX

#

Unless they want to flex their muscles and go for KDP lul

stoic dragon
#

Wow

#

Girls here are loud ad

forest raven
#

kek

pliant ivy
#

Give us a Photo of backseats

feral solar
#

i expected AOD to win that

wary falcon
#

Win series?

feral solar
#

nahh

wary falcon
#

Or just KOTH

pliant ivy
#

So if AOD wins 3-0

feral solar
#

i think KDP will be way better on other types

pliant ivy
#

AOD second position?

#

right?

feral solar
#

i think so?

#

im not 100%

stoic dragon
pliant ivy
#

I expected a bigger venue

wary falcon
#

KDP lose 2CP to Rogue

stoic dragon
#

Its actually pretty small

wary falcon
#

AOD can 3:0 them

#

with a little bit of luck

stoic dragon
#

Just so you guys im the ultimate negative totem

#

Whatever sporting event i participate

#

My team loses

#

So RIP KDP

pliant ivy
#

FeelsBadMan

thick cosmos
#

Why do they play koth as bo3s and not bo5s?

forest raven
#

Time constraints

thick cosmos
#

Ok ty

balmy wolf
#

Mighty AOD took the first map?

#

well well

stoic dragon
#

Yo guys

#

I got it

#

In real time

#

So anyone who says they got it

#

Is a liar

wary falcon
#

AOD won over LH on KOTH

#

i still have faith in KDP

forest raven
#

KDP can lose and go through to playoffs as long as they take a map

wary falcon
#

They won 3-1 vs Rogue and now dis?

pliant ivy
#

wtf was that soldier ulti

#

with dva near

forest raven
#

Void hard carrying

pliant ivy
#

ooooh

#

erster did good

#

Tracer Bomb on soldier Ulti pogchimp

forest raven
#

AOD lets go champ

stoic dragon
#

Smh

forest raven
#

Void's D.va hard carried that round

#

He singlehandedly held on streets for like three minutes

pliant ivy
#

torb

feral solar
#

???

pliant ivy
#

AOD threw

wary falcon
#

oh gawd KDP just win this

feral solar
#

needed a rein

stoic dragon
#

Aod fangirl

#

Literally in tears rn

wary falcon
#

So was i after 1st game

feral solar
#

its not over yet

pliant ivy
#

aod need 1 team wipe

feral solar
#

omg hahaha

stoic dragon
#

๐Ÿคฆ

pliant ivy
#

they shouldn't fight here, AOD has re spawn advantage

forest raven
#

VOID IS SO GOOD

stoic dragon
#

Omfg aod

#

Crying girl ecstatic again

balmy wolf
#

how the hell is AOD making Panthera looks so pleb now

stoic dragon
#

Crying again

forest raven
#

๐Ÿ•ฏ

vestal mortar
#

๐Ÿ™

feral solar
#

2 CP cant wait!

#

wooo

glad chasm
#

I hope AOD makes it back for next season. They're not bad

wary falcon
#

Yeah i hope so but i need them to lose now so badly

#

lmao

stoic dragon
#

That was fun to watch

#

Aod fans leavinf

#

Mass exodus

forest raven
#

๐Ÿ•ฏ FeelsSadMan

balmy wolf
#

at least one hour till C9 vs Misfits

stoic dragon
#

Achileos sent me a reddit message

#

Saying come say hi after the match

vestal mortar
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

forest raven
pliant ivy
#

well

#

those aren't true fans

#

True fans always stick to the end no matter what

balmy wolf
#

KDP looks really sloppy

wary falcon
#

play of the game by erster

feral solar
#

is it just me or this game feels super slow

wary falcon
#

no brawls

#

this is why i guess

kindred kiln
#

i am late to first match as always, what happened - AOD won on Lijang? how the heck

forest raven
#

AOD also beat LH on Lijiang

#

THey're good on that map

#

And also Numbani was as close as Hollywood was

kindred kiln
#

that's unexpected,but right,they did well there last time

#

at least that helped me to see some KDP action live

#

wow, Bird

wary falcon
#

Merrcy without Pharah? eww

kindred kiln
#

pocketing genji is not a bad idea either imo

#

especially when that's one of the best genjis

wary falcon
#

not enough vertical mobility for mercy

stoic dragon
#

I underestimated aod

balmy wolf
#

KDP......

stoic dragon
#

Their target focus is amazing

balmy wolf
#

Rogue won against AOD, lost against Panthera, and now AOD is giving Panthera a run for their money

#

what is this

forest raven
#

AOD gonna smash in season 4

feral solar
#

they are just taking it ez cause they qualified already

#

gosh guys

forest raven
#

Just because A > B, and B > C, does not mean A > C @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
#

@forest raven no shit

#

but AOD is performing better vs KDP

#

whereas they got smashed vs Rogue

feral solar
#

does c9 game starts in 15 min? or just the stream

balmy wolf
#

stream

wary falcon
#

no way KDP will win this map now

#

๐Ÿ˜ข

feral solar
#

i am gonna fall asleep before that sigh

balmy wolf
#

RIP KDP

kindred kiln
#

if aod wins now, rogue will seemingly place LAST in their group

#

not like it matters tournament-wise

stoic dragon
#

Sojum did you hear me yellig

#

Its cause kdp is dicking around again

forest raven
#

KDP, perhaps not as strong as initially predicted

wary falcon
#

Eichenwalde

#

rip kdp

#

greedy comp

stoic dragon
#

Dicking around to the max

crisp lynx
#

it is so fun

wary falcon
#

I can't say it's dicking

#

I love to see Orisa+torb

#

didn't expect them to play them on this map

balmy wolf
#

KDP looks shaky

#

LW Blue, nV, AF Blue might eat them alive

kindred kiln
#

their first playoffs opponent shall be envy,right? that shall be interesting

balmy wolf
#

depends on who get the draw

kindred kiln
#

huh? i thought it's 1Av2D, 2Av1D etc

crisp lynx
#

1st pick opponent

forest raven
#

The top seed of each group pull a number between 1 - 4. They choose who they play against out of the second seed teams. 1 and 2 choose their team and group, 3 chooses their team, and 4 gets stuck with lucky last

kindred kiln
#

oh,thanks

#

that's too confusing for new viewers

crisp lynx
#

and Ro8 is 2 group - double elimination.

forest raven
#

They have a big ceremony for the stage 2 draws after stage 1 is over

#

And this season semis are bo7

stoic dragon
#

Void saving everything today

forest raven
#

Void has absolutely been MVP

crisp lynx
#

i've always thought rascal play too risky. i don't like his play

balmy wolf
#

daaamn

wary falcon
#

it's over

balmy wolf
#

Kongdoo "we tends to choke" Panthera

#

Erster pegclamp

wary falcon
#

now full hold by AOD

balmy wolf
#

Kongdoo's mental game is still weak it seems

#

Rascal with the

#

NA barrage

wary falcon
#

what was that?

#

Rein just charged 1vs6?

clever wagon
#

TakeOver is live and is in preparation for Misfits v C9

crisp lynx
#

he want to change winston

wary falcon
#

So just do suicide

#

No need to feed their ultimates

#

C9 looks stronger than Misfits

clever wagon
#

BlessRNG I USED TO BE AN ATHEIST BlessRNG BUT NOW I BELIEVE IN GODS BlessRNG

#

Mind you we haven't seen Misfits since PIT

#

Was it PIT? I forgot

wary falcon
#

never go full retard

clever wagon
#

I was just going by B1shop who said the latest info they have on Misfits is from 1-1.5 months ago

wary falcon
#

and i went full retard by putting 1.5k on KDP

#

kill me please

balmy wolf
#

it was PIT

clever wagon
#

BlessRNG I USED TO BE AN ATHEIST BlessRNG BUT NOW I BELIEVE IN PHIL BlessRNG

balmy wolf
#

LOL

#

LOL

stoic dragon
#

Omg c9