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Shit I had a nightmare
It still is
Wait, I thought I was in OW's Discord
๐
I drop around 25 frags with SG553 on global elite
inb4 polo reminds you what channel it is
yeeah, I think that we derailed a bit too much
Polo plays CS, or at least used to play a lot. I bet that he'd have participated
-1h for TakeOver 
still e-sports discussion and we are waiting for TakeOver
still better than time zones discussion
Also will Blizzard revert Hog' changes?
because EU
maybe abt the hog stuff
he doesn't seem completely useless but he's waaaay out of meta
TakeOver's time is perfect for me regardless of classes or not
Since I'd usually be out of classes already at this time
the only issue is taht takeover starts while I'm at school
Hog isnt really even meta now tbh so oh well
Press F to pay respects to Hog
I'm still working and I can watch esports.
it starts at 14:15 and I'm knocking off at 15:15 ๐
they should have just increased hook cooldown again. no one shot makes him practically dead
"work"
I can't ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
The "meta" at this very moment is the most diverse as it gets ever since the release of the game
I'm actually working
They nerfed him into Oblivion lol
Doing some archiving. Boring work. Perfect to watch and work at the same time
lit spent the last week relearning hog lmao
I mean dive every game is fun reeeee
I don't understand the timing of the PTR tbh
reaper gets buffs to become a tankbuster during a divey meta

roadhog, the most reliable dive counter gets nerfs that may affect his ability to counter dives

How the Roadhog patch sounds to me: "hey let's buff McCree and Reaper the casuals deserve more heroes to be viable. Oh and while we're at it piggy is not broken but let's break him just to be completely safe"
reaper buffs won't affect harambe
I mean hes not stopping Winston from being played
dive comps were ran during beyblade
Roadhog nerf seems more like a Reaper buff tbh
which was literally reaper heaven
I meam Hog wont even be played much if at all
Helps him sustain fights more, if anything imo
Some people skip Reaper because Hog exists
I mean, hog can't oneshot reaper anymore, although his higher firerate will give him more chances to hit him
So it doesnt matter as much as it could have
tbh I feel like reaper will become a hog counter again
I don't like Roadhog RoF change
if these patches go through
His shotgun feels like a big gun with huge damage
Hog really has nothing to do with reaper being bad
I think blizz is trying to make all heroes to be playable on esports
reaper is a huge tank buster now with lifesteal
whoa, sudden avatar change
Tracer main btw
Guys
rather on the comp
Guys
blizzard has stated multiple times that they realize that some heroes can't always be ran
the thing is
Bionade buffed nano beyblade
The more passionate playerbase than bronze-silver casuals:
Some people skip Reaper because Hog exists
Blizz:
Let's break piggy so literally nobody, and we mean **nobody** would skip GabeR
shit like symmetra or torb are designed to niche
blizzard probably wanted reaper to be a common pick
and now that he's consistently been garabge they decided to make him one again
reaper only turned to a niche pick during the tank meta
I ran him on every map
tbh
he's not really a flanker, can't dive, can't deathball really
Gabe
The shit that makes Reaper ass still exists
he was a relatively common pick during all metas until ironically, tanks happen
What?
if the reaper buff passes. It will provide chaos on lower SR
Jesus MODS WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY NAME
if the buff passes I'm becoming a reaper main
easy hero and heal
lol gankyou
Hog was always the wag he was he had only gotten nerfed yet Reaper was played before Hog was never Reapers problem
I think you are overracting with Reaper change
Time to Reap
people will still just defense matrix in your face
Kill DVA then ulti
profit
Tfw your main is lowkey broken but never getting nerfed 
study
Sleep
if blizz wants to make the game bearable for casuals why don't they just nerf pharmercy
Eh its balanced though
D:
As much as it makes me sleepy
Pharmercy is broken af in low level games
mendo lol
Good thing Pharmercy climb fast in ranks
pharmercy below diamond is pretty bad tbh
C9 boys behind lol
on console pharmercy was pretty bad all the way through t500 lmao

by that I mean unbearably good
Just find your personal healslut to play with
TakeOver just casually showing off that Acer Predator 21X in the back
let's steal it
true boost some one trick mercy if you wanna be a good pharah
Rogue lost in APEX quickly so they (think they) can stomp TakeOver
That is what i said
the thing is none of my friends playing mercy
they prefer dps
damn
Before winstreak's nerf i played a lot of Pharah
I really hope they took something away from apex
from my exp there is no special requirement for your mercy
dat profile pic
just don't let her die
tfw Fragi vs Kaiser is a possiblity

Is that Kaiser I see just casually lying on top of Gods
kaiser is fluent in english
his video where he joined cloud9 actually had really good english
Does Hymzi have any heroes except Hog?
kyynel looks like a serial killer
@toxic yacht which vid
hymzi is flex
Hymzi used to play Genji of all people
he is actually their projectile
but since he became a hog bot zappis is trying to be TviQ
so epic
2CP
@clever wagon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qddsMlVIat0
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and this 4 maps is reminiscent of EPL
hymzi also plays mei
but back at winter assembly
they tried to run dive again
it was hilarious
seemed rusty af
zappis was also trying to pick up genji
but yeah, NiP is likely gonna run triple tank again
https://twitter.com/ian9721/status/870232537418694656 Kaiser's twitter revealed the message of Nomi, Coach of Runaway to their fans who rooted...
nooooooooo
๐ for kalios
It's kinda sad to see the fan favorite starting to crumble like this
But it was a whole lot of fun while it lasted
LETS GO CHAMP
Without Nomi and Kaiser
"Where is Creation esports?" Linkzr pls
I don't wanna make a comment about this comp because people like to fuck around in spawn
Ooo me likey the overlay
but wtf NiP?
322
ahh
222
this is still weird, but better
why they didn't pick hog
miro?
damn stream has shit quality for me
^
feels weird seeing nip off hog/zarya/ana
Best of 3?
LiNkzr just on fire in chat
I'm gonna hold my horses about NiP though
Cyclowns is currently in a really bad shape, so that may be making NiP look stronger
feeling bad for cyclone
@wary falcon 4 BO1
feels so bad for them
ehm?
such a good team just getting poached
tfw NIP not running Triple tank and running Season 1 Zen comp
Map score?
not BO4
gg ez
4:03...
wasn't rape illegal in germany?
taketv is rape-ok zone

else they wouldnt invite rogue
So game can finish 2-2 and i will be raped by pinnacle
3 1 2
great!
THis stream quality is 
Blizzard experimenting with EU lul
it is the format for the group stage of OW Contender btw
it is basically kind of format of CSGO EPL group stage
where they play 2 BO1
mafu and zappis with swapped roles
but apart from that, it's good ol NiP
cmon cyclone!
woah
mafu soldier zappis zarya 
I noticed that they stopped putting zappis on 76
mafu is the better soldier
and has better tracking
they've been doing this since PIT
shame cuz mafus zarya was so good
2BO1 is different though
Beppis
what do they do between matches in this tournament?
aren't both team doing bad with defence
What is happening
EU OW
hymzi's self destructs have been so good
mfw I'm crying about boombox but poks is actually fucking nuts
Zarya Ulti
also, that was a very fast grav
Cyclowns is doing pretty good apparently

it's NiP
they could also just be pulling a NiP and being stupid inconsistent
lol, hymzi's "mustache" gone
but seriously, poks is insane
it's NiP
don't get your hopes up
he ran hog earlier
but he swapped to dva later
triple tank zen
The massive phase 2 of Eichenwalde isn't very useful for Hog imo

A lot of wide open area to cover
C9'd
c9?
C9
That's an actually c9
literally this time

this is so painful to watch after Apex League
C = Cyclowns
That was one of the very few real C9's since APEX season 2
c9
pulled a ton of c9s
they keep doing it
it's hilarious
even vs Selfless at Rivalcade
Memes > winning tbqh
they pulled a c9

although the culprit, mendo, is gone
They just keep feeding Twitch chat 
Memes help your brand recognition by a fuck ton of miles within a single moment than winning does TehePelo
Cyclown = Clown 9???????!!?!
And it's real easy to pull
Choking, choking
Ayy
gege
Vikings
Sup People
hello hello
@rapid oxide how is life?
Zappis being glorious while Kyynel is looking like a serial killer, as always
look whom I see in the background
What
Well yeah they've been chilling there since the start of the stream though?
yeah, they have been
Phil and Bill guest star cast when
Ahh classic Phil and Bill
Like when they gonna play and make the calls like that's the question here
Davin's aim is kind of good
nice 1000 hp feed
they forgot to add team names
poks keeps fucking zappis
oh yeah, they didn't change it in the lobby
lmao
this is a calculated stall
they never wanted to win the fight
fuk u
hek
just let the % grow
EU spectating
LOLOLOLOL
he keeps fucking zappis lmao
Who needs Widow or Ana when you can snipe while healing your teammate
bo3 or bo5?
nice 1000 hp feed
It gave them a lot of points
bo3 koth in APEX is only because of timeslot limits
I wasn't sure if they intended to cancer around the entire time
a lot of winstons just pop primal rage for 5%
instead of having a very calculated stall
Destro just went derp
Poks keeps getting these cheeky kills
poks is my dad
He will never adopt you TehePelo
oh
Jesus
NiP choking hard like sexual asphyxiation
I loving how they are spacing their teamwipes
NIP had always been weak at control map
no idea why when they can frag out pretty hard
on other map types
most teams just spam ult combos to wipe
cyclowns is making sure to wipe them in a manner that doesn't allow them to recontest
someone stop Poks pls
btw i'm in the Esport Discussion voice if anyone want to live spec this shit
and also NIP 
tbh that trans to counter sword was unnecessary
what a clown fiesta
lmao Poks keeps killing people lol
Boombox was the problem
gg ez
Poks super cheeky
the fact that he used to DPS shows
redemption shatter there for fragi
rip
how the fuck does hymzi always get a self destruct kill
They took over exactly at 99% making it hard for NiP

Oh hey the play we didn't see because a bush was more interesting
yeah this observer needs to go first person more
Verified LETSGOREAVER: THIS GAME IS SHIT
dude, he looks so fucking glorious
Reaver 
Fragi 
how much shit would you give for NIP to get Linkzr into their line up
4 maps 1 map win 3p?
yes
ofc they can
Fidget Spinner 9 waiting room ResidentSleeper
-zappis +linkzr would be so sexy
they can and they will
even though i love zappis
Why not be there
No homo
Ninja "We can't KOTH" in Pyjamas
Do you wanna fly in day of and play soon after a long plane ride
But why not
where half of the roster is also dozing off
Hey, if I can see Phil, Kaiser, Tisumi, I ain't complainin'
sup with zappi's hate?
weird but works
They were probably planning for a pincer
Poks what a bombshell
6 ults, dry push to force out ult, use ult to wipe
well, rip that
so much for that
What visor is that
2cp need team wipe
...

is this NA?
Mafu seems to do the visor just out of habit
It's the west
You think western teams can play 2cp
No its just North EU
Like you see, Phil with his calls wouldn't like, waste that ult
Like that's the problem, you have to make calls
Good ol' 2cp
maybe he thought he was gonna get sound barriered
mafus been so good at helixing tracers
well cyclones lost 1 key player
Mows 
but yeah, I was all like "RIP Boombox"
but Poks
is fucking nuts
mow leaving fucked them much more
don't think that they can run a rein now
fuckin' Fragi
Fragi vs Kaiser, plz
seems like NIP is much better strategically while Cyclowns is running like chickens
they can frag but KOTH had been NIP's weakness since forever
oh come on
wtf was that earthshatter
that nano is actually kind of smart
basically rendered the blade useless
and you can build it up rather fast
monkey feeder
Cyclown's coach feeding lol
Why is Twitch stream quality never consistent
Typical NiP
did nip lose 2 players as well?
no
no.
What lol
NIP can cap the point though
what happens if they draw?
they've been the same squad since fucking summer last year
after seita became their coach
@pliant ivy next match
and they got... zuppehw, iirc?
yeah
so 0 points from draw ?
they might be just too VP at this point to maybe make a really good upgrade, like Linkrz for example
for both teams?
@pliant ivy they counts overall maps, not win/loss records
ah ty
cyclowns is putting up a really good fight tbh
especially if you consider their circumstances
yeah, taht too
always slip at the most crucial of time
lol all reds
their coach are throwing hard though
Fragi shatters
jumping in for weird feeding
LOL
1 blade for 3 ult
gah
what the fuck is Krytox doing
Cyclown C9'd again
that NA blade
Cyclown's DPS are all the natural preys of NiP's tanks
3 fucking C9 from Cyclowns
Lololol

Score?
This isn't looking good for NiP
ye
Dahun0: Is Cloud 9 good? This is my first time watching competitive overwatch lol
again
NiP really choking
dva ult o got someone
Hymzi's D.va is the underrated carry this match
lots of good DM and Self Destruct
Cyclowns "we throwing like clowns"
I dont think they threw they got back because they feared NiP ultis
lol sandwich
KappaPride
EU casting
I'm dying KappaPride
Sojum rn for Rogue - eUnited 
Lololololololol
Cloud "we are just Takeover 2 background" 9
So like APEX if I don't misunderstand it
no
Apex is win/loss then maps
so essentially this is 4 BO1
A yeah
APEX is win/loss first then map records
This matchup tho
What does Kruise usually play in pro matches? Genji?
This predator... It's not worth the money
Genji yeah
Man this is some matchup
Vallu v SoOn, NiCO v Kruise
There's some more of that lo-fi Kreygasm
Pretty much mostly genji, Unfixed is their proj who flexes into hitscan and is usually on 76 during their triple dps dive
Vallu is tracer 100% of the time
Boombox better fragging out otherwise it would make eUnited poaching of him looks silly
Jackie are you betting on those games?
Except eU concocted some new weird ass comp I predict a mirror matchup
Yes, i'm betting on CS:GO, OW and Dota 2
Jackie is hardcore af
Didn't blizz ban the betting for their games?
sue?
Some loungey lo-fi Kreygasm
Anyways betting will always be around sports
and I don;t like that
betting destroyed the football
one of reasons
football is not the same
as it was
I was hardcore Arsenal FC fan but dropped football
now only check Arsenal results
Wenger ?
the 2 year renew must tilted you hard
Nope, i like Wenger
So?
did they say when the next game starts?
Where is Winghaven now?
soon
SoOn

@balmy wolf is the Aceofspades guy in r/cow the same one from your team?
that's Acesofspaddes
Ah
extra d make all the difference.
I didn't see it, hek
"Isn't Rogue supposed to be in Korea?" Twitch chat
Sad to see BF boys without Winghaven
Rogue is supposed to be in Korea :(
FeelsBadMan
Your BF boys without TwoEasy too, but that's kinda old news
I don't like 2easy
I can see why, lol
That's Fisher?
wut
it's a long story
Oh yeah, you used to play BF competitively
Probably something personal then, I guess
Well to be fair i played before they formed this team with winghaven-unfixed-morte-twoeasy-beasto
BF 
so TwoEasy IS TiltEasy?
Two "Getting
" Easy
who
When your Genji ult is just right! #OWTaKeOver @zappisOW @NiPGaming https://t.co/QHUxducmVk https://t.co/4yq1IrXn9i
start game ffs

They said it's both
hek
Rogue perfected triple dps
Just a sentiment
But well\
"Perfect" mostly only for NA who arguably adapts the slowest
This is why Rogue had 1.3 against KDP
who cares some teams will create new tactics some will perfect it
At least from the respective scenes alone even EU people seem to be more flexible than NA is
DANCE PARTY
mah boys
they summoned turret
well ana does pretty well on def
The question was I think Unkoeee picks Zen more nowadays
but Ana fits better this point
Because both Ana nerf and Discord is easier to use to assist kills
OMG
rape
BEAUTIFUL TRACKING
btw fun facts: Misfits was the first team that runs Triple DPS dive with Widow, but Faze Clan was the first team that runs Triple DPS with Pharah.
Mmm yeah the triple DPS with Zebbo Widow
Finally Rogue is getting actual tests by KR and EU
RIP
camera man is so bad
He has always gone with either Nico or Nicogdh
Rogue fucked up their engagement
and his name has always been NicoGDH
but everyone just shorten it to Nico
eU just tearing Rogue apart
Kruise with the NA blade
Jesus
lol the chapstick
and lipsticks
I thought the first redbull was just whatever
but then they did a shot of the other team
also drinking redbull
this fucking mirror match though
rogue composition is as much predictable as it was sombra on blizzcon
not like eUnited is any better
Are you sure reunited kicked Rubikon due to his perfomance?
i see Esca being replaced with Soon Soon
What was that

Rogue seems more structure vs when they were in KR
no more Winz and Unkoe ulting at the same time
and their ult less engagement is clean as fuck
maybe they learned something after those stupid losses
Don't think so
Rogue still chaotic for me
Biggest difference is soon has lesser pressure on him so he can perfom
I mean I don't think the mirror match is giving Rogue hell as much as KDP did
KDP just countered them in every way
Imagine what if Rogue didn't run pharah
SoOn for one definitely didn't get as much pressure
plat chat
Back then we all saw Void just never let SoOn work
that's not a c9
Nico looks a bit more solid now
...did vallu shave his glorious beard?
well i want to spam C9 every time when something weird happens with point
It took a few weeks for Lunatic-Hai to completely deconstruct Rogue's comp and style
And now even top EU teams can't do the same
๐ฐ๐ท
lol
tfw no one in the West know how to run counter dive as a dive
KR is overrated
When a team that got dumpstered by Korea's best teams walks into EU and dumpsters one of EU's best teams, I might agree with you
eUnited have shit flexiblity and no one asked them if they are one tricking
this is basically a mirror match
and Rogue seems to play well
SoOn LUL
What's Lucio's per-hit damage now?
why the fuck they don't stick with the same team color?
too lazy to fucking move them
when match is done, it switch automatically
jackie players are always blue and enemy red
Rogue were playing with s2 ult management
what do you mean its good for players?
nice visor unfixed
well it's easier
GIMMIE THAT REDBULL
hahaha AKM
REDBULL TILL WE DIE OF CAFF POISONING
compare Rogue in KR using 3 ults willy nilly vs now where they actually use in order
vallu looks so weird without his beard
that's a big improvement
and they don't force unfavorable engagement too
like during the first engagement as soon as Soon was picked they disengage asap
aKm?
FR ult, basicallyt
he showed us some beautiful tracking
Nico didn't even use Blade for that engagement
if it was a few weeks ago he'd pull it asap
AKM's visor had been shite though
third person view, so nice
who won?
BEAUTIFUL TRACKING
nvm
i honestly hate it
3rd view genji is better
you dont understand shit in 1st person view
well if it continues. Rogue will get the first place
eUnited looks really anemic
Cloud9 / Raiders can stop Rogue
BabyRage ๐ HELLO KOREA? BabyRage ๐ EU HERE BabyRage ๐ CAN YOU TAKE ROGUE BACK? BabyRage ๐
EUnited were their strongest enemy in this group
wot is this
rogue not wasting ults?
also, aKm betrayed SoOn
...rogue has decent ult management

ikr @toxic yacht
learned something from korea
also Kruise "Kyb won't be in Team UK"
time to sleep now
Eunited is not looking good enough to justify staying up some more
Rogue looked scary though. Smart engage/disengage, better ult economy, etc etc
is there any team better than eunited in EU?
no one knows the best EU team atm
I think it's soon to tell
they are still improving
and 1 year exp with this game is little
Rogue probably will come first in the group
then eUnited and NIP
if somehow NIP won against eUnited though
laughs will be had
nico is playing genji on this tourney
he didn'y play genji on apex
why is that
soon suicide
Guess what guys
there's only a few Genjis that is currently in play
Im going to apex tmrw
nice ๐
Nico's Genji on Apex was meh
RIP
didn't play genji at all
Because KR are used to better genjis
^
they shoulda risked this
I remember the first game against MAOD
He was average at best
(with Genji)
I'm disappointed by EU right now. They don't really seem to be better than NA tbh
Really want to see what Movistar can show against Rogue
I think only Movistar is better than eU. Misfits with their recent results are average atm
how do you not get a kill there kruise
Group B seems to be a much more interesting group
since there are more unanswered questions
C9, Misfits, Rider and Hammers
Agreed
dude
lol the soldier gun
i bet rogue needs a bathroom break
soldier gun was pointing to left and killing to right
chugging water and redbull
pretty sure that it's a spectator bug
Rogue still can't 2CP




