like why was zp not voted in
#esports-discussion
rapid oxide
fierce geode
honestly i think zp has too polarizing of a personality
jason kaplan is a pretty level guy but at the end of the day his last name could be what got him on the committee
rapid oxide
^
last lantern
yeah but he actually had a plan as to how he would run the comitte
fierce geode
he still would have only been 1/3 of it
last lantern
true jk was entirely that
rapid oxide
Keep in mind that ow casuals are braindamaged
fierce geode
and the other two could have their own plans
last lantern
very much so
fierce geode
i mean it's weird though having one member in germany and one in korea
and one in the USA
rapid oxide
You have to be fucking retarded to belive that the Lead of OW will waste time doing owc
last lantern
did they think it was his brother or something
fierce geode
i doubt most of the voters put much thought into the voting
rapid oxide
So? Even if he was his brother or smth...
last lantern
im trying to understand how idiotic u have to be
to believe that the lead developer would tank part in the their own game event
fierce geode
damn the salt in this chat is unbelievable
last lantern
which country?
rapid oxide
Italy lul
last lantern
i mean im canadian so it might be even worse for us
rapid oxide
You have a plenty of talented people
balmy wolf
Slasher "no serious teams stream their tryout"
rapid oxide
But... Huk 
fierce geode
why do you guys even fret about it lmao
rapid oxide
@balmy wolf yeah, germany and thailand are retarded indeed /s
last lantern
yeah at least canada has sick players
toxic yacht
they probably didn't think that it was jeff
they saw a bunch of names that they didn't recognize
and just voted what looked cool
rapid oxide
Ster is popular
toxic yacht
OMG STER IS KEWL STRIMMER
rapid oxide
So i could understand
toxic yacht
KYKY HAS A COOL NAME
balmy wolf
Jkaplan? Must be Jeff
fierce geode
most people know envy
toxic yacht
THIS GUY HAS THE SAME NAME LIKE OUR GLORIOUS KING GOD EMPEROR
rapid oxide
DADDY KAPLAN
fierce geode
so there's a good chance they know the coach
rapid oxide
🍆
toxic yacht
I mean, no one knows coaches from teams
I'm really into esports and I barely know coaches
balmy wolf
Jason Kaplan turned out to be the smartest of the bunch but then he got shit on by Slasher and other pros idiots
fierce geode
they know kyky from c9 as well
rapid oxide
They had to point it easly
toxic yacht
if anything they'd know him from c9
toxic yacht
but you overestimate the knowledge of your average OW player
rapid oxide
:caster
fierce geode
@balmy wolf i agree but i still like ster's dedication
last lantern
i doubt these ppl know who kyky is
fierce geode
i think you underestimate it bud
a ton of people watching the last OWC
that's how a lot of people got into esports
rapid oxide
That was 1 year ago
rapid oxide
How ppl remember kyky
toxic yacht
most people just watched the cup and forgot about ow esports
balmy wolf
Stylosa dedicated at making OW videos and I don't think anyone said anything about underestimate him
🤔
toxic yacht
only a relatively small amount actually got interested, comparetively
last lantern
kyky is probably the only one that deserves to be on the comittee
rapid oxide
I have to admit that some casuals are waiting for OWL to dive into esport
balmy wolf
I'm still bitter about that whole voting episode
last lantern
so am i
balmy wolf
not when even fucking Seagull pointed out that streaming tryouts was a golden opportunity
rapid oxide
Except for APEX
last lantern
im just glad blizzard decided not to let them idiot hivemind vote for players this time
last lantern
like some of the teams were a complete shitshow
even the average user may not watch apex
as the games are very early for est
rapid oxide
Because of time most of the time
rapid oxide
We can complain how much we want
But we have to be thankful this guys bring casuals on esport
fierce geode
is this message board a place for people to come and bitch about esports or discuss? cause i'm seeing a whole lot of bitching
fierce geode
lmao
last lantern
we are salty ppl
fierce geode
that's getting closer to the truth
last lantern
salt is good
rapid oxide
Most of the time passions lead to extreme feelings
last lantern
better than blind faith
rapid oxide
Or overly salty or overly happy
last lantern
skeptism >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind ignorance
rapid oxide
"OWL will fail"
balmy wolf
I'm still mad over that streaming episode because a. Jason is my guy and b. That thread had my convo with him
fierce geode
lol why do people always have to go from one side to the polar opposite
rapid oxide
rapid oxide
"OWL will fail but im not sure"
fierce geode
i wish they streamed tryouts but if the players dont want to then thats fiune
idk how it is in italy but real life isn't black or white it's always somewhere in the middle
last lantern
el fuego majority of the ow playerbase is ignorant
fierce geode
yeah i'm seeing that right now
last lantern
im with u that its not about extreames
idk if u watched the oversight episode with surefour
but thorin and monte basically summed it up way better than i ever could
fierce geode
oh jesus monte is a huge negative nancy
rapid oxide
Like if the other game playerbase are anyhow better
rapid oxide
Monte is very positive rn
fierce geode
on a less bitchy note i thought c9 looked really good with like 3 days of practice
fierce geode
i wasnt sure who was gonna win in the lge vs c9 game
last lantern
he actually did a better job against shrugger on mccree than on soldier
rapid oxide
cough 
cough
last lantern
i feel bad for iddqd and for harb
fierce geode
on one hand i wanted to see lge do better than before to show they were improving but on the other hand i really wanted to see kaiser be an improvment to c9
rapid oxide
They would fail with seagull too
fierce geode
that hanzo on hollywood point a was brilliant
balmy wolf
people in pro scenes had advised Seagull to just streaming
because they know what a dumpster fire NRG as an org is
surprise he didn't do it sooner.
fierce geode
it's better for esports to have seagull as a streamer
last lantern
nrg in rocket leage is apparently good
well seagull always bring lots of viewers to tourneys
last lantern
LUL
rapid oxide
He always could join as coach
On other teams
And focus more on streaming
Can't deny he's really good in strategy and ult economy
His skill went downhill
Or simply more people are equally good
balmy wolf
within the NA scene he actually filled a good niche with his hero pool.
too bad those his results have been garbage
apparently early in NRG lifetime when they were still in LG
Seagull signed with them and expressively said that Dummy had to be signed as well
iirc
of course we all know the result of that
rapid oxide
Best decision ever haha
balmy wolf
Hence why I wonder if the reason Dummy still in NRG is because of Seagull covering for him
not because NRG is better in scrims
vestal mortar
rapid oxide
Not smth impossible. Seagull is still under contract
And his contract could state that dummy cant be kicked or smth
supple nymph
LOL
rapid oxide
Just speculate
balmy wolf
btw, this tryout is pretty lit. When people tuned in to Seagull stream it make me want to choke someone when they said that their stream team comm was the normal thing
meanwhile the German team's comm is fucking spotlessly clean
toxic yacht
I'm guessing that seagull negotiated for a very favourable contract
since he's one of the few people who can actually afford to do that
vestal mortar
Yee
rapid oxide
And Seagull brings views to NRG
last lantern
well i mean each star team has their players
toxic yacht
where can you see the german teams strimming?
rapid oxide
NRG could keep him as streamer
balmy wolf
last lantern
on nv its taimou
toxic yacht
thank
balmy wolf
last lantern
and C9 its S4
toxic yacht
Veineless 
last lantern
reign where is that from
toxic yacht
huh, no nesh?
rapid oxide
Eiss
toxic yacht
I'm guessing that they'll try him later, maybe?
balmy wolf
@toxic yacht preparing for TakeTV remember?
toxic yacht
oh yeah
balmy wolf
@last lantern my own source
last lantern
ah ok
balmy wolf
either way, team Germany's comm is pretty clean cut
toxic yacht
yeah, none of these guys is at takeover iirc
rapid oxide
Nip is in Germany already
last lantern
who was esper?
toxic yacht
esper was LG's healer
last lantern
sorry bad memory
toxic yacht
back in the day
last lantern
ohhhh yes
toxic yacht
before they got indust and then dummy
balmy wolf
remember that Thoorin's video?
most of that was also truth as well
even if he fucked up the timeline
last lantern
he was on mix^ with them right originally right?
balmy wolf
yes.
toxic yacht
yee
wintry matrix
ok, i fucking doubt it, there's no fucking way anyone listens to twitch chat
last lantern
alot of people do
wintry matrix
I mean, if it was something about who's more popular it would make a sliver of sense, but a competitive team?
last lantern
you underestimate the ignorance of some people
balmy wolf
back when it was his girlfriend doing the management too, mind you
wintry matrix
besides, by that logic Seagull would had send Dummy to anywhere else but NRG due to the amount of shit dummy got
at that point it seems way more likely it's just fake gossip
or at least half-truths
(which the medium is plentiful of)
balmy wolf
I mean, you have people that expressively defend the decision to not stream tryouts because they don't want people to get sway by fuckin' twitch chat
wintry matrix
i mean, it makes sense if you think that maybe the players don't wanna stream
balmy wolf
so clearly, twitch chat can influence people, even if we know it shouldn't be.
wintry matrix
i mean, it sucks, but it actually isn't really that bad of a decision
one thing is not streaming because you don't want to deal with twitch chat annoying you to death, another is actively looking for the chat to deal with team stuff
wintry matrix
can you explain it? i'm out of the loop on that
balmy wolf
i mean the two screenshots I have is pretty much what I said.
and back then it was before Dummy was exposed as a shit support.
so right now he is just grandfathering his way into a spot
in NRG that he should be cut long time ago
wintry matrix
not to accuse you or anything, but i don't really trust that kind of gossip
especially me who thinks the pro scene is full people waiting to backstab each other
vestal mortar
Same
toxic yacht
I like to hear it because it's interesting af, but I'm not a big fan of it tbh
especially since it's always a bunch of he-said she-said
and half truths
balmy wolf
the truths always will be somewhere in the shadow
and people will choose to believe what they want to believe anyway
vestal mortar
I agree with Sojum 😛
balmy wolf
I mean the whole episode with Mendo vs ZP was kind of comical
until you realized Minstrel of all people actually confirmed ZP's account
of Mendo trying to pull a coup in C9
toxic yacht
yee, minstrel confirmed it before the entire drama even started
vestal mortar
Minstrel seems to like to randomly appear and "confirm" drama, I am not a fan.
toxic yacht
he made an off-hand reference to people wanting other people off the team etc during Mendo's tryouts on NRG
fierce geode
either way why was a caster getting involved in player drama?
toxic yacht
that was like, a month before what ZP said
fierce geode
zp lost all my respect after that regardless if he was right
toxic yacht
but yeah, Minstrel honestly talks too much
balmy wolf
Mendo was shitting on ZP earlier in the chat
so ZP just clapped back, basically
too bad people never screenshotted that part
fierce geode
from what i heard mendo was shitting on zp for something he had said prior
so either way they're both at fault
only problem is that mendo is a kid and a player but zp is one of the faces of overwatch esports
toxic yacht
I think they were both dumbasses, but ZP should know better than to get into such player drama and airing his dirty laundry
balmy wolf
From what I've heard, Minstrel just gives no fuck about his gossips. He done it when he was in Team Liquid.
balmy wolf
drama in OW is always overblown until someone starts winning
and suddenly everyone shut their mouth like clams
exhibit A: Taimou
exhibit B: YIKES and xQC
toxic yacht
yeah, minstrel has been casually revealing shit since I knew his name
balmy wolf
@toxic yacht anything he said lately in flamecord?
fierce geode
i dont really care about the drama side of it but to know that one of the people casting during the games is a juvenile then i just can't sit and watch
toxic yacht
nope, didn't see him say anything too special lately
I'm not even sure if I saw him recently
balmy wolf
yeah @fierce geode, and then you have xQC/Rise made themselves into an idiot during that episode vs BK Stars and I don't think anyone even remember.
to say that "oh I can't watch him/her because he has done X" in the past is kind of meaningless
toxic yacht
I still can't really like Yikes thanks to that
And to an extent rise
that was just childish and retarded af
but yeah, most people seem to have forgotten about the drama
fierce geode
@balmy wolf those are players though
not the casters
the people literally talking over the whole game
balmy wolf
doesn't make them less fucking guilty
fierce geode
i just watch the games on mute
balmy wolf
Taimou even had said the n words on stream but nobody cares because he is fuckin' Taimou
red anvil
I want to like envy, but i cant because of the way taimou behaves
balmy wolf
casters cast, players play. That's their job.
fierce geode
i like the KR casters
and some of the "stream" casters for NA tourneys
the observing sucks though
balmy wolf
Basically if you hate casters to cast (which is doing their job), then giving the players the pass for just "playing" is downright silly
fierce geode
we all formulate our opinions on the players as we will but we dont have to listen to them talk the whole time and we can take enjoyment in when they get killed 😄
balmy wolf
of course until they pulled a Dafran.
fierce geode
imagine having to sit in a room with someone you don't like for whatever reason and have to listen to them talk and talk and talk
but you could never talk back
that's my point
balmy wolf
ZP and Hex are still better casters
so not listening to one of them just because of some spat in the past is silly
I don't fucking like xQC and his band of idiots
balmy wolf
but I still tolerate them because they plays well.
fierce geode
that spat just confirmed it
clever wagon
What will OW have left if the comp scene is in limbo, Contenders + League still vague and worst of it all.... NO DRAMA????
C'mon man
fierce geode
nah man just listen to the games on super low volume
balmy wolf
shrugs
fierce geode
way more entertaining that way
balmy wolf
then again though people have always had a bias to the players so this is no surprise.
clever wagon
You can't pull out the only lifeline this... entity is trying to survive on
fierce geode
kinda surviving on streamers let's be honest
calvin has been bringing a lot of league viewers to OW
toxic yacht
the red team in germany, the one with veineless and eisfeldt is reking the blue one
lol
balmy wolf
hype, Nesh will come in to try out for second block
toxic yacht
nice
balmy wolf
SKipjack is more or less set as well apparently
and also, even with team full of Germans
they used English comm
must be habits from playing with other nationalities
toxic yacht
their comms are geman overall, but all ability names are still in english
also, yeah, terms like "low"
definitely habits from playing with english speaking people
"tracer one hit" etc
balmy wolf
oh god the "let's transdence/sound barrier at the same time"
toxic yacht
another reason why they use english terms is also because they just rolls off the tongue easier
during the rare moment when I play with friends I also stick to english terms. I even use english terms when talking about OW, now that I think of it
balmy wolf
this is pretty fun to watch
despite the facts I can't understand the german side of the comm
toxic yacht
you probably understood most of it anyway
rapid oxide
last lantern
cool
supple nymph
We'll also be bringing the Sombra and Symmetra voice actresses on stream after the first or second series (TBD) to ask them a few questions about their experiences with Overwatch.
!
toxic yacht
wot
wtf is this
cyclown players are fucking them over left and right
lol
way to break the strongest unsigned team in EU lol
wintry matrix
this triggers me
also doesn't LK have two flex already and skipjaque? seems a waste
solid spear
LK just working on their sister team stay woke
solid spear
What's so funny
supple nymph
I didn't know they did naming like that outside KR
it's the only team with a random sponsor as part of their name
in NA
toxic yacht
LK wants a 35 man roster
supple nymph
they found the boston bomber?
the thing started https://www.twitch.tv/livethebattle
well they are overtalking
so no matches yet
wintry matrix
LK preparing for the inevitable boom in Planetside 2 esports
supple nymph
every time someone mentions ps2 reminds me that eq next is cancelled 
wintry matrix
btw i'm dunk so aside from the sister team i can't think of the another conclusion
supple nymph
rip yikes
dusty surge
o my
civic marsh
anyone watching rivalcade
balmy wolf
oshit bois
red anvil
LOL
civic marsh
that hanzo
civic marsh
that primodulce guy was hitting some nutty shatters
civic marsh
whoa
red anvil
Crossing fingers that LGE wins that
civic marsh
that hog hook into shatter was so nice
red anvil
My favorite was the one after the gravithon on the rein
red anvil
that widow solider widow combo works so great
red anvil
Insane that it took them so long to swap
Yikes is so reliant on pharahmercy and it gets them stomped
wintry matrix
why there's korean text in twitch chat? is a new meme or there's legit korean people watching (and commenting)
red anvil
There are a lot of koreans that watch OW
regardless of the nationality of the streamers
wintry matrix
an online NA tourney?
tho i suppose Kaiser and Xepehr can bring a few
what i mean is, i think this is the first time i saw koreans in twitch chat in a small online NA tourney
civic marsh
that was closeee
solid spear
Yikes
red anvil
Slightly salty there not streaming c9
last lantern
C9 won 2-0 vs CLG
civic marsh
nice
last lantern
selfless won 2-1 against LGE
balmy wolf
dusty surge
Wow
civic marsh
roasted
toxic yacht
not a fan of xQc, but c'mon, he's really good
balmy wolf
lul
solid spear
No
toxic yacht
I'm not really jumping on the yikes hype train though
not a big fan due to their previous shit
and it's too early for that
solid spear
I dont like them at all
And they had good tournament but it's just classic NA inconsistency
balmy wolf
mind you
YIKES came into prominence while having Silkthread doing a service
and while they looked unstoppable for like 2 days, and then they just got beat by RNG, who failed to qualify for the OMM this month
toxic yacht
yup
crisp lynx
break time is too long 
toxic yacht
they got boosted by silkthread
balmy wolf
even if you asked Silkthread himself he'd say that he was the problem when vs Rogue, but eh
toxic yacht
although they looked pretty solid with their current roster during the latest OMM
solid spear
Lost to LGE 2-0 last week, 2-0 to Kungarna and now RNG
toxic yacht
yee
balmy wolf
the old NA hype cycle
T2 beating each other
reddit get hyped up
then nV and Rogue returns to bully everyone else
and the hype died.
meanwhile over in the EU T1 is actually interesting to watch
while T2 kind of languished
solid spear
NA is just really deep
balmy wolf
"deep"
hearing taimou talk about na teams is enlightening
what does he say?
that they're all garbage
and that watching this is making him worse
everytime they come back from apex they get worse when they stomp these NA teams
NA teams are still largely players run
which means that more often than not there isn't a figure that tell these players to stop do certain shits
balmy wolf
more like leaving.
rapid oxide
Could be
balmy wolf
Harsha hinted it as much
small basin
why do casters call tatical visor "nano visor" even if theres no ana
balmy wolf
because these casters are garbage
vocal yoke
small basin
this meta makes me happy
civic marsh
pulse bomb charges so fast for the impact it has in these matches
small basin
if you land it
its a free kill
but in the grand scheme of things its not as cheap as other things in this game
supple nymph
c9
civic marsh
that body block from surefour lol
supple nymph
dva seizure
final river
On one hand it would be cool if Kungarna won the whole thing, on the other I want Kaiser to win.
final river
He was on Run away not he's on c9
*now
If you didn't watch the OGN matches then you probably dont care about him.
small basin
I dont really watch this for ecelebs
final river
I play a lot of Reinhardt so it was cool seeing him kill it with that character
small basin
oh that explains it
I dont care for much of anything reinhardt related
gimme winston anyday pls
balmy wolf
Gods looked good on Genji
final river
bm getting pretty common
strong relic
balmy wolf
hah hah hah
strong relic
strong relic
😄
final river
mma has people getting punched in the face during face offs and OW has people not saying gg properly
balmy wolf
remember when Kungarna was people's favorite in here because they are non sponsored?
turned out their players are idiots 
solid spear
._.
final river
here we go with the bm
supple nymph
ahh more BM already
final river
maybe Sinatra thinking it will increase Dafran's tilt meter
actually that makes no sense, nm
supple nymph
c9
rapid oxide
How Mykl and BB shittalked c9?
final river
Why is sinatraa tea bagging so much
@rapid oxide I think mykl is a bit of a shit talker in general
I didn't know babybay said anything
tired escarp
small basin
I hope dafran throws again
final river
So they go straight from that tournament elimination to queuing in comp?
Sinatraa is so free right now
supple nymph
NOOO C9
final river
Happy to see Pharah play
final river
yea nice to see
civic marsh
these pulse bomb whiffs on the reinhardt
solid spear
DAD
civic marsh
seeing mercy rezzes do nothing makes me happy
final river
omg
civic marsh
that retake
supple nymph
WHATTF
final river
dafran was off in lala land
supple nymph
LOL
final river
mangachu on mcree lul
solid spear
McCree is a throw
solid spear
Nu
ripe marlin
lol all the throw talk
gusty notch
this game especially in NA is just who throws less
and yeah hanzo was a throw
RNG had grav and dragon combo
and mangachu just throws it somewhere else without grav
civic marsh
iirc grav wasn't up yet but it was close so yeah, that was a mistake
but the hanzo worked out overall
gusty notch
worked against yikes cause they were playing bad
but like rng did so much stupid shit today lol
civic marsh
their long ass push on hollywood was so bad
ripe marlin
lol pros throwing talk
civic marsh
what are these renegade long drawn out pushes
pine star
Is Yikes out?
balmy wolf
Yes
pine star
Who eliminated them?
pine star
pine star
dusty surge
Does the scrub cup qualify for esports discussion? :P
supple nymph
is nrg in it?
dusty surge
lol
final river
I can't remember the last time I've seen nrg win on stream.
supple nymph
i think the last on-stream win was the meta athena match
where they had 300 ping?
meme finals starting
civic marsh
hoping for a c9 win
civic marsh
gods' genji has been really good
dusty surge
Link?
civic marsh
dusty surge
Thanks
final river
Who will bm first though?
dusty surge
Do teams BM each other to try to tilt known ragers?
small basin
tiltiing the enemy team is a vialbe strategy
especially when they're keyboard typers
dusty surge
I mean... it's not professional though.
small basin
what do you expect?
dusty surge
So I'm curious how much of that happens at this level.
dusty surge
Fair, but I would expect a little more sportsmanship. Any BM stuff, at least to me, just comes off as shallow and shitter-like rather than tilting.
Again, at the pro level. Below that... eh. Grab bag.
civic marsh
it's quite a divisive topic
some people enjoy the "storylines" it creates, others don't like it
wintry matrix
I find it super annoying, unless it's injokes
it's twitch chat mentality
but it's unavoidable
final river
I'd rather they do more player interviews
a little something before the matches at least, like OGN
wintry matrix
i think we have that already, it's just that it's been a long time since a big tournament or a lan
final river
they could still use skype or something
digital pond
Gods genji looking good
dusty surge
Genji is so damn strong
pine star
Man, Gods used the same hyperbolic chamber Nico used and became a Genji main lol
digital pond
lol
small basin
Reinhardt comp getting destroyed by glorious winston comp beutiful
brings a tear to my eye
pine star
Winston confirmed cancer and op
small basin
dive comp
is sexy
Reinhardt comp
is bore
infact I wouldnt even watch it if it was reincomp
digital pond
Yeh and eventually people will be bored of dive
pine star
^
digital pond
Just a matter of things being played a lot
small basin
builder comp feat Orisa when
pine star
lol
pine star
Orisa + Torb + Sym + Bastion
supple nymph
BlessRNG I USED TO BE AN ATHEIST BlessRNG NOW I BELIEVE IN GODS BlessRNG
digital pond
inb4draw
pine star
33% 
final river
nah c9 has this
solid spear
Pls don't be NA Reunited 🙏
pine star
rip
final river
rip
final river
yea they blew it lmao
civic marsh
they had time for another team push but they wasted ults 🤔
pine star
If they would have dived like 10 seconds earlier instead of doing that huge flank, Dafran wouldn't have had visor
pine star
Anem smh
digital pond
supple nymph
rigged
final river
r
supple nymph
c9
civic marsh
@supple nymph not a c9
final river
c9 lost the round so its a c9
civic marsh
solid spear
C9 Pharmercy zzzz
pine star
Any Pharmercy zzz
final river
terrible sound when you're getting shot by dva
civic marsh
when mercy rez even does work in pro competitive 
pine star
I find it funny because it sounds like a minigun is tearing thru a metal sheet
And it's barely tickles at that distance lol
digital pond
rip pulse
final river
yea it sounds like you're getting torn to shreds and sometimes its doing like 10 dmg
pine star
wow sniped
small basin
Mercy res has too little counterplay
amber ember
adam getting a fight winning rex
small basin
imo
digital pond
Just go next map
digital pond
It had more counter play before she was made invulnerable
amber ember
is this a year ago
small basin
Its not just killing mercy but killing her at the right time and then following up fast enough
digital pond
Now you can't even kill her when she goes to rez
small basin
for her not just to respawn and do it anyway.
pine star
Fucking rez is cancer
clever wagon
Selfless diving?
digital pond
You could at least snipe her ass mid flight before
clever wagon
Wow
civic marsh
when your team tells you to kill mercy first so you do
digital pond
Now not even
small basin
doesnt matter
civic marsh
then the fight drags out and she comes back from spawn and rezzes her team
small basin
mercy respawns
she comes back
and resses more.
Res is an ult that should lose charge on death imo
pine star
And shit charges like at emp rate
digital pond
God those kind of fight on Temple of Anubis point B or Gibraltar last point
With the spawn rez on gibraltar
civic marsh
just disgusting
digital pond
"If only I had killed someone 1 second faster"
digital pond
I think the invuln on rez was the big shift frankly
Cause most people focused on killing her as she flew in
pine star
And the point hasn't even been captured
small basin
this is worse than pharmercy for me
pine star
clever wagon
Lol S4
clever wagon
How is it weird lol
small basin
I swear genji is a generalist
civic marsh
that was a huge boop from adam
supple nymph
BIG SLEEPS
small basin
Genji mah favorite tank buster
pine star
Wasted blade in 900hp of pig
pine star
civic marsh
s4 doing better than mangachu on mccree anyway lol
dusty surge
Q2W, 120 * 7, but it's a cleave. So technically 120 * 7 * 6.
small basin
McDead
dusty surge
But that's if you're hitting all 6 people.
pine star
New shatter in effect lol
small basin
i thought they only changed the verticality
small basin
that reminded me of most of my s3 comps
where people tried so hard
to make genji work
pine star
Old shatter would have caught him
solid spear
small basin
Well earth shatter was broken as fuck
amber ember
how long did that first match take overall lol
small basin
and now its broken in a different way
amber ember
could be a long series
small basin
joy!
pine star
Air shatter 
digital pond
1-0 finally
civic marsh
@amber ember it's because hollywood ended in a draw
small basin
its range was 10 fucking feet in the air
amber ember
yea i realise
small basin
its actually really fun
when your standing on a payload
rein shatters
and nothing happens
c:
pine star
solid spear
Dad pls win 🙏
small basin
i only watch for winstons
supple nymph
DEADFRAN
clever wagon
There it is again, Dafran's nin-- welp
supple nymph
DEADMONGG
civic marsh
he gets away with murder in that spot so often
digital pond
The worse part of it all is he does it allll the time
Teams know it's coming
Dafran is there for his pogchump
final river
Dafran loves that spot
supple nymph
REEEE
civic marsh
omg
supple nymph
REEEEE
clever wagon
C(((((((9dwe0rjw09eifjwerp\
small basin
rekt
supple nymph
REEEE
clever wagon
REEEE
final river
that's a c9
digital pond
Same way on Hollywood he loves wrapping toward defender spawn toward caffe
pine star
small basin
bastion
clever wagon
FIDGET SPINNERS OUTTTTT
small basin
oh boy
digital pond
OH MY FUCKING GOD
small basin
ITS THE THING I MADE A JOKE ABOUT
digital pond
HOW
delicate sparrow
why
pine star
Cowrisa 
civic marsh
the thought of barrier watch makes me ill
supple nymph
small basin
it'll happen sooner or later
supple nymph
selfless starting to tilt
pine star
Nano Zarya
supple nymph
choke
small basin
I would love Orisa to be generally more viable than Zarya or Reinhardt
final river
They gotta do at least one legit c9 for their fans.
small basin
you know in tf2
people actually ususally said heavy was the easier class
but in overwatch zarya is high skill because she tracks?
ima go hide now
clever wagon
You know in that dead game
ftfy
pine star
No one cares for TF2 reeeeeee
clever wagon
Zarya is high skill for her shield decision more than tracking
delicate sparrow
the only exciting thing about orisa is halt
clever wagon
Guess that just showed how much you know?
clever wagon
Shield decision, grav
final river
genji tends to be high sens right
small basin
oh
pine star
Adam 
small basin
so
final river
that was an insane boop
digital pond
LOL ADAM
pine star
dat assasination
clever wagon
Yeah, shows how far can you look into things
civic marsh
i find it so funny when both teams grav and they're just bouncing around looking at each other
clever wagon
We're done
digital pond
The stare down is hilarious
"Well this is awkward"
"Do you come floating here often"
final river
gods ult = Dhak dropping beat
solid spear
clever wagon
Gods tend to focus to so few targets when blading 🤔
digital pond
The boop saved that game
Nano visor would have pushed them to the final point imo
Cause he got 2 before egtting boop;ed
pine star
True
amber ember
how does gods seem to get so many blades when he always looks like he just spams rightclicks at long range?
pine star
He's pretty accurate
civic marsh
kaiser is always saying need healing lol
supple nymph
THAT IS A PICK RIGHT THERE
clever wagon
DAS A PEECK
final river
big pick
digital pond
Kaiser is the true Genji obv
pine star
Gods carrying his heart out lol
civic marsh
yeah
supple nymph
BlessRNG I USED TO BE AN ATHEIST BlessRNG NOW I BELIEVE IN GODS BlessRNG
pine star
Sinatraa lol
final river
what was that staredown
digital pond
That was a good stall on selfless
eating up that timer
but now high ground is iffy
solid spear
WE MUST WIN
pine star
That's his spot
digital pond
the scatter strat
pine star
digital pond
Kaiser poor dude
Doesn't know where to block anymore
So much pew pew
Is finals Bo5?
civic marsh
yea
clever wagon
S4 missed his healing station lol
digital pond
Sinatraa wants to reclaim his tracer spot
civic marsh
when u turn a corner and there's a nano hog in ur face
pine star
Kaiser: 
digital pond
Eh way I saw it, it always bothered viewers more than the players themselves.
final river
rip
clever wagon
Yeah I do think Gods need to work on his blading
pine star
gg
civic marsh
gods' blades were good earlier
clever wagon
What is this BM from Sinatraa you're talking about
digital pond
^
delicate sparrow
yeah
digital pond
His blades got wors eon KR
delicate sparrow
they were good all the way through hollywood defense
when they switched over to attack it got worse
solid spear
THIS IS OUR TIME
digital pond
Tbh
In play off the do reverse sweeps once at least
They got known for that
Afterward jensen feeds
But hey they generally make it to finals v0v
pine star
I'm worried OW is slowly becoming LoL in terms of eastern domination
solid spear
I'm not tbh
digital pond
Eh.. I don't think so.
delicate sparrow
idk
digital pond
As much as people will only remember the score, Rogue's games were rather close
Even if they lost.
The gap is much closer in OW then it ever was in LoL
pine star
The gap was close in LoL at the beginning as well
balmy wolf
The gap will just keep getting further and further
delicate sparrow
it depends on the team. we don't have anyone on par with korea's best but it's not that extreme
solid spear
I dont even think Korea is better than the west rn but that's an unpopular opinion so 🤐
pine star
I mean
supple nymph
no heals for surefour
digital pond
Korea has just advantages
supple nymph
😦
balmy wolf
I still like EU more than the other regions and I will still watch
pine star
If you look historically
balmy wolf
but Korea will always be on top
pine star
LoL was exactly like OW rn
digital pond
I mean it always comes down to structure and esport support
pine star
Back in the day
digital pond
Infrastructure + mentality is always positive for them when going into esport
And much different.
pine star
Except the korean imports came much earlier in OW
delicate sparrow
it's just work ethic tbh. half the western teams can't get it together unless they're in a LAN
digital pond
It comes from the pressure players have also.
They're basically super stars with all eyes on them in the country.
They get publicity deals have bilboards etc etc
They feels responsable for their performance and image.
pine star
We're already kinda seeing that in OW
That's my point
And that's what I meant with "slowly becoming like LoL"
digital pond
Yeah, I mean i'm hoping some more structure comes to the west
But it's possible v0v
Or EU will come raging in like in CS:Go
balmy wolf
I wouldnt really doubt that if KR took CSGO seriously they would also dominate that
pine star
The only reason KR doesn't dominates CS:GO is because they don't play CS:GO lul
delicate sparrow
I hope OWL will make everyone get their acts together
digital pond
OKAY DOTA
balmy wolf
I thought they already dominated that
digital pond
No lol
delicate sparrow
if you're spending 20 mil on a team I'd make them fucking get their shit right
pine star
Hopefully sports teams big bucks can build a huge structure for western pros
digital pond
China won some worlds
pine star
But I'm not holding my breath
dusty surge
How could Surefore even see there to know to shift up with Lucio?
pine star
Witchcraft clearly
delicate sparrow
he's hacking duh