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toxic yacht
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arhan being good

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well, apparently he stopped being shit, but I haven't watched AF Blue's recent games

pine star
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He's doing alright

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But we all know the meme will never die

deep abyss
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AFB didnt drop a single map currently in apex s3

pine star
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They'll choke at playoffs

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As they always do lul

toxic yacht
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well, they got into the playoffs by luck last season

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in S1 and apparently this season they got in by playing well

balmy wolf
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what a fail thread

deep abyss
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why exactly

balmy wolf
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"And yes I understand that pro games will have higher skill level than gm/top 500 in almost every aspect however that doesn't mean that x person is not better than y person just because he is not a pro while some might say that pros doesnt play seriously at ranks but sometimes the difference is obvious that the pro player is equal or even worse than x player but people here will choose to ignore it if it comes to discussion because the other player is not a pro, if we look at decent history you will see that few of top tiers pros right now used to just play ladder and switched to the pro scene easily."

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try to decipher this sentence first.

pine star
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that's a xD if I've ever seen one

vestal mortar
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Cx

pine star
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"I understand that pro players are better than ladder players, but how can you say that pro players are better than ladder players?"

deep abyss
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This looks like what my 7 year old niece would write, doesnt make any sense

balmy wolf
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he basically wrote that you shouldn't generalized that pro players will always better than ladder players

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"Im not talking about a player but im talking in general from the cases that I have seen form the start of overwatch. dafran shadder kheprii wraxu etc... think of any famous guy you will see that people in this sub choose to believe that his best hero that he performs in is no close to pro level in fact you will see a lot of people saying that most pro players can flex and perform better it feels like as if being a pro give you this sudden skill."

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literally on wraxu may counts on his list, while dafran/shadder/kephrii has or has been playing in the pro level presently or at one point

vestal mortar
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In my opinion "how well you play with the 5 other people on your team" in terms of coordination and team plays is a big part of whether or not you are a good player, pros usually have better team play which is why I personally would consider them on a higher tier to solo ladder players.

balmy wolf
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I personally think coordination is kind of overrated in the ladder play

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most of the general "how to climb" guide flying around usually talks about coordination, positioning, etc etc but then a guy with average game sense can strap a rocket to himself and get to GM just by clicking on heads

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coordination can only be train in a scrimmage situation I think. On ladder the amount of coordination is fairly minimal

vestal mortar
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Hehe

balmy wolf
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huh that team they are going to scrim against

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Straight outta comp queue

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Also flame part of the stream meme dream team

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at least Seagull will stream scrims I guess

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they are up against a T2 team ๐Ÿค”

vestal mortar
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Gale is a sub today

balmy wolf
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Juv should be a sub too right?

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Because UB team is already signed up to contenders

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unless he was only subbing for UB team

vestal mortar
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Afaik only Gale is subbing

balmy wolf
vestal mortar
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I will ask Ajax between matches then ๐Ÿ˜›

supple nymph
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H Y P E

iron cedar
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Hammeh
๐Ÿ‘Œ

balmy wolf
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Seagull's team comm is just headache inducing

supple nymph
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wanna watch the blizz thing but seagull's stream is way more entertaining

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

deep abyss
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Blizz is pretty boring

supple nymph
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yea unfortunately i havent seen much interesting stuff on it

iron cedar
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Your not missing anything interestin
Ford

supple nymph
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lol

deep abyss
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Mcree vs mcree headshot only, wow

supple nymph
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no names ingame so if im not paying attention i dont know who im watching

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tumblr mercy artist

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and i only know the british personalities

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so :/

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plus frequent filler montages

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and interviews with people i dont know lol

vestal mortar
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"the only problem i see on this team is that just teamwork can use more work" thanks twitch chat

limber pine
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Anniversary event has some pros/former pros, but most are streamers or content creators

balmy wolf
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Just played a game with Anak lul

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this Winston in Seagull's stream is just facepalm inducing

vestal mortar
balmy wolf
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let's just say he have a few questionable jumps

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he literally just feed himself toward Seagull's team and forgot that he have a jump to disengage

vestal mortar
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Oh the enemy winston?

deep abyss
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Its funny to see blizz losing viewers and seagull gaining more

vestal mortar
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Seag is still at about his average viewers

balmy wolf
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yeah enemy Winston

supple nymph
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Blizz is back on fucking filler

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god damn

vestal mortar
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2 many filler episodes to keep my attention

balmy wolf
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I doubt there will be any big announcements during the stream

pine star
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Wait

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Ajax is in Seagull's meme team?

rapid oxide
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Any news?

vestal mortar
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Ya Sulli

pine star
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Who are they scrimming?

balmy wolf
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a tier 2 team

pine star
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Someone known?

vestal mortar
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Toronto Esports

pine star
balmy wolf
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I thought it was SOCQ

supple nymph
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LOL not even worth naming

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'T2 team"

balmy wolf
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can't remember the name atm but yes they are known.

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and no they are not Toronto eSports

vestal mortar
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

supple nymph
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but that's huk's team

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and he's on the canada committee

vestal mortar
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onigod is in the lobby

balmy wolf
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are we talking about the first team or the second team?

vestal mortar
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I am talking about the second team

balmy wolf
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ok then

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SOCQ > TN eSports

vestal mortar
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Because that's what I see right now

balmy wolf
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1st and 2nd team

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yeah that make sense now

pine star
balmy wolf
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Seagull team might potentially getting smashed here vs TO

supple nymph
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hes doing 3v3

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is he done scrims for tonight?

balmy wolf
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they are going to scrim the second team apparently

vestal mortar
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Scrims are not over, they are onto second block now

supple nymph
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who they are playing now

balmy wolf
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TN eSports

supple nymph
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??

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flame meme based strats

vestal mortar
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TOesports

supple nymph
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why is everyone saying that? I said it was TO esports

balmy wolf
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you asked who they were playing

supple nymph
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i said who they are playing...

pine star
vestal mortar
dusty surge
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TOE SPORTS

vestal mortar
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nu

supple nymph
vestal mortar
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๐Ÿ˜

rapid oxide
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:heart_eyes:

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The only positive part of the stream

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Was out and didn't saw the stream

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But lots of ppl are complaining

supple nymph
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"Her hair is parted the wrong way, that's nega-tracer." -> "So the straight version?"

toxic yacht
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Flame analysing team seagull's gameplay

vestal mortar
pine star
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@supple nymph mendoGao

pine star
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When you start watching the vod of the anniversary stream and see this shit

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Kid knows nothing.

limber pine
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Twitch chat is literal cancer

supple nymph
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did you watch it for the anniversary stream?

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lol

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GRILLLLLS

limber pine
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I watched most of the stream sigh

supple nymph
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you poor thing

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did someone make you

pine star
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I was working lol

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I'll watch for a couple minutes just because Soe

limber pine
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I mean I liked the stream, just not the chat

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Soe being there doesn't hurt either

balmy wolf
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so how's the scrim vs TO so far?

supple nymph
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i wasnt watching but someone said 1-2

pine star
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Who's the best Zen KR? pixelThenk

forest raven
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Luna?

supple nymph
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ryujehong?

pine star
delicate sparrow
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probably ryujehong

pine star
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I don't know man

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Jehong always struck me as a slightly above average Zen

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Guess you just don't notice him as much when he's not on Ana

delicate sparrow
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he just doesn't really die a lot and still manages to get harmony/discord orbs out a lot

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in a meta where everyone is running dive not dying as zen is pretty impressive

pine star
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Tbf not really everyone in KR runs dive

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But yeah, I get your point

balmy wolf
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RJH is a good Ana

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but his Zen have only been servicable so far

balmy wolf
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thats a bit of an understatement imo

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If you mean recently, I'd agree a little but overall its been above average

balmy wolf
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mind you, servicable in LH is basically everyone's top level

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on Zen RJH isn't outstanding like his Ana

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but he never done anything wrong either

clever wagon
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I mean

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Nvm

pine star
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@balmy wolf my thoughts exactly

clever wagon
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That reddit thread is a literal cancer to read

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Not just because of how idiotically hard headed OP is, but also the lack of commas and periods

solid spear
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Meanie head

clever wagon
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What the fuck

solid spear
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Wait pls

clever wagon
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This is all very weird

forest raven
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What're you talking about

balmy wolf
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i assume it is this thread

forest raven
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That thread title is a thensquaring

balmy wolf
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it gets betterr

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just read

supple nymph
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umm

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that guy seems like a troll

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what point is he trying to argue? i cant tell

clever wagon
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That non-pro ladders are actually comparable to actual pros

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(Holy shit did I actually understood that thread)

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Statistically number of players in the ladder is way higher than number of pros and even if we took it by lets say number of players that play 5+ hours a day with 4000+ rank I would say that there is high chance that the best player in the world could be just random ladder guy and that ofc by ignoring natural talents so maybe the best guy doesn't even need to play that much or couldn't care about rank but point is I feel like chances that the best player to be just a guy in the scene is higher than the pro scene and that ofc if we just said that the system is perfect and there is no hackers in ladder or in the pro scene.

supple nymph
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i guess the vote system works because i didnt see this thread- 19% upvoted

clever wagon
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Joke's on him because the #1 ladder for NA + EU happen to be in pro team or at least is a ringer

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Graceful, Dafran, Silkthread, Sinatraa...

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Reading a fucking paragraph without a shred of commas or periods feels like reading an idiot desperately trying to prove their point by spitting random nonsense just so their opposition can't stop them from talking

solid spear
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I assume hes saying some top ladder players could be as good as pros in a pro environment since even 3 of the 4 players you mentioned came from ladder? Idk trying to give benefit of the doubt

clever wagon
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I think it's more that it's saying a ladder that wasn't+isn't+isn't going to be a pro is comparable to a pro

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I think that's what it's implying from its starting post

solid spear
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Idk

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I mean top ladder is mostly just pros anyway

clever wagon
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You can kinda get its intention from its first paragraph

solid spear
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help

clever wagon
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How it resents the fact that most people, to him it, are worshipping pros

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Ugh I should stop mistaking the pronouns

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I didnt say that non pros are better than pros most, in every game most top tiers player used to be ladder guys even in ow few of the best players used to be normal ladder guys but im questioning the reason to ignore/look down on any non pro guy even if he perform better than pros **just because he is not pro.**

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Yeah see, that was its point

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I'm actually reading this shit thread what the fuck

jovial eagle
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pros>non pros

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that's a fact

supple nymph
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pros > pronouns

jovial eagle
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in a profesionnal environment you have a lot going on compared to the comfort of your own home

clever wagon
pine star
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lol you guys still bothering with that thread?

jovial eagle
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im not

pine star
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Just let it rot lmao

jovial eagle
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pro>non proo

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no doubt

clever wagon
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I'm just replying to Oreo

pine star
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Oreo sucks

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Don't reply to him

jovial eagle
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it's true

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there are better cookies around

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oh

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it's the person

clever wagon
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@solid spear see that? This is all your fault REEEE

pine star
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Here

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Have some Kaiser

clever wagon
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Good thing is Kaiser would probably pick up comms ez since he's fairly fluent in Englosh

solid spear
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;_;

clever wagon
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Issues that actually matters

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Jesus

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supple nymph
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looks like CP is popular in KR too

delicate sparrow
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youroverwatch guy wants 3v3 added into the pro map pool lmao

clever wagon
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Jfc

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Right

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Considering their Youtube base

pine star
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YourOverwatch taimouLUL

clever wagon
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Can we just let it sink in for a moment, and think how much of a relief it is that YOW isn't getting any close to the OWC committee?

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@delicate sparrow Can you tell us where to find this statement?

delicate sparrow
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like 3 minutes in or so

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actually 5 minutes

fierce geode
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maybe not pro but it would certainly be a cool type of exhibition match for smaller prize pools

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pro players have enough to practice as it is...

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ranked 1v1's and 3v3's would be interesting but the way the heroes are designed right now isn't balanced for it

delicate sparrow
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3v3/1v1 tournaments are already a thing, but putting into standerd tournaments and forcing teams to play it is goofy as hell for a whole lot of reasons

fierce geode
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well yeah i don't think that's what they meant with that statement and highly doubt blizz takes much of their feedback seriously

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their highest rated player is like masters, right?

delicate sparrow
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it was tho. he was talking about making actual teams play 3v3 in normal tournaments. why else would he mention 6-7 person rosters?

fierce geode
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he's just saying it would be cool to have tournaments with 6-7 player rosters playing 3v3's

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no one is forcing anyone to do anything?

jovial eagle
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wait so does kaiser like mercy or no

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in comp

delicate sparrow
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obviously not. youroverwatch doesn't have that kind of influence. but his point was clearly "put 3v3's into standard tournaments" which is a dumb idea

pine star
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Probably already posted

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But the interview in the end with Effect is pretty interesting

fierce geode
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i mean he didn't say anything like that but that aside he doesn't even know how many rounds it takes to win

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dude said "4 rounds to win"

delicate sparrow
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he did but this conversation is entirely pointless so who really cares

fierce geode
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even counted the amount of heroes that were banned incorrectly

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true

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anyway

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anyone know if open qualifiers for OWC will be streamed?

delicate sparrow
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they'll probably do what that tournament last month did and stream a handful of important matches

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like if something like NRG vs CLG happens

fierce geode
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i still kinda wanna see some no name teams play

forest raven
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I think ro8 and afterwards of the quals will be streamed

fierce geode
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would be fun to watch

forest raven
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Because there are a lot of teams

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Like

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700+

fierce geode
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i mean that's literally all content

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doesn't mean you have to do everything

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but it would be nice to at least see some

clever wagon
fierce geode
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so meta

clever wagon
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Jfc either make all payloads safe or just make them all vulnerable to shatters

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Why even make it different among different payloads

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First patch was all safe, then all vulnerable, now it's arbitrarily decided

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GG

delicate sparrow
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oh yeah

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it happened to me on numbani

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and our rein just stood there with his shield down when the shatter didn't hit their rein

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and complained about it

clever wagon
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Wooow that's weird holy shit

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I can still browse reddit with DNSCrypt turned off

balmy wolf
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๐Ÿค”

tough wind
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@limber pine
Blimey O'Riley - Yesterday at 7:26 PM
Twitch chat is literal cancer
Jebaited

vestal mortar
rapid oxide
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not sure if i did all the math

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but approx 430 team signed in eu

balmy wolf
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how many of them are just friends signing up for i wonder

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pro team > amateur team > high SR stack > friends

rapid oxide
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Lets say half of them won't show because troll team etc..

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200 is still high

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Even 100

balmy wolf
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with single elims though

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those teams will get weed out fast

rapid oxide
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True

thick cosmos
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Any predictions on which teams are gonna go on to group stages for EU?

balmy wolf
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EU is much more competitive than NA

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so it is hard to judge

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Hammer eSports probably going to get to round of 8

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at least

thick cosmos
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Movistar, misfits, ex-cyclone, eunited, NiP and hammers are probably getting there but i wonder which teams are taking the other 2 slots

balmy wolf
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ex-dignitas?

thick cosmos
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Didn't know there was a ex dignitas xd

balmy wolf
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it is just a guess

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because there's no indication that ex-Dignitas will stuck together

spring lintel
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Do you think anyone will stream? Since it's allowed? I know seagull will.

balmy wolf
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Seagull is not serious

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so he will stream

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most amateur team will probably stream

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since a. who gives a shit about amateur team and b. they have nothing to lose

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pro teams probably won't though

rapid oxide
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Pro team wont also because they dont want to let enemy how they shotcall

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And they have to maximize their bandwidth

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So streaming or any source of annoyance for ping is a no no

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Higher FPS, lower ping possible

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As Reign said, seagull doesn't give a fuck and take this chance as entertaining his viewers

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Another reason for me to dislike him

delicate sparrow
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isn't flame on seagull's team anyways? isn't that proof enough that he doesn't really give a shit about winning lmao

wanton bronze
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I think flame was just spectating

rapid oxide
pine star
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If Yikes gets rolled I'll laugh my heart out

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The salt coming out from xQc would be the greatest ever witnessed

toxic yacht
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Flame was just spectating and coaching them, I think?

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I only watched 2 halfs of 2 matches

pine star
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lol

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HarryHook named his pet after you @vestal mortar (?

toxic yacht
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wot

pine star
toxic yacht
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Yee, I just checked his twitter

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lul

pine star
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Why you stalking me Sojum ๐Ÿ‘€

toxic yacht
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๐Ÿ‘€

solid spear
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Wew

vestal mortar
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Waaaa

rapid oxide
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Tara stealing names... smh

limber pine
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@tough wind noticed me

toxic yacht
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Tara stealing Harry's memes

pine star
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Tara smh ee

solid spear
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Tara pls

frank frigate
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Hey y'all, just posted the Meta Report for this week. Half of it is analysis from the Overwatch Monthly Melee + Apex (some interesting things going on with Zarya there), and the other half looks back at the past year of Overwatch metas, where I have a really fun interactive chart i've been curating the past year. Check it out, if you like!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6da1s0/overwatch_hero_meta_report_anniversary_time/

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as always just @ me here if you have questions or drop one in the comments โค

toxic yacht
dusty surge
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@toxic yacht When is it supposed to start?

toxic yacht
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monthly melee finals are starting in like, 6 hours

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5 pm EST

dusty surge
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o

toxic yacht
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got pushed back because Comcast succ

dusty surge
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NA ISPs zaryalol

toxic yacht
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also, ouch, reaper at 0%

dusty surge
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Fix his teleport and give him the same love Roadhog got and I bet his pick rate goes up substantially.

pine star
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Reaper Ele Giggle

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I remember when I just bought the game for PS4 like 10 months ago and was a Reaper main

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Good times

balmy wolf
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Reaper is still playable in KOTH, btw

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especially in dive

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people just don't experimented with him like KR teams does because of "meta"

dusty surge
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Yeah. I think he's still viable if played correctly. But he does need some QoL stuff on his damn teleport. The number of times it fucks up when I try to make a snap teleport is too damn high.

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Also, not being able to initiate a teleport while you're not standing perfectly still is a bit annoying.

rapid oxide
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As always West is age behind Korea

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Too scared to go off meta

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And when they do and die once they insta switch

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Because "didn't work out"

balmy wolf
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it is kind of the format tbh

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NA/EU excelled in quick format like tournaments

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where it rewards teams with most practice out of a certain set of comp

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meanwhile KR excelled in league format

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where it is a marathon

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and allows teams to study, adapt, and improve as the time goes by

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i'm curious to see an event where KR teams have to play in an environment where they can't just use their superior infrastructure and staffs

dusty surge
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Does the staffing/infrastructure actually help them in any measurable way, though?

toxic yacht
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well, it effectively allows the players to focus on their own play and only that

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they just play, do what their coaches and stuff tell them to do and follow the optimal routine devised by their staff and stuff

balmy wolf
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and also, you have staffs that look at the other team's vods and pinpoint their weaknesses

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for example, KDP vs Rogue

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KDP kept hammering at Unkoeee for the whole set

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because they realized that you can't let Unkoee have his way

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and also pin down SooN on Tracer

rapid oxide
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Tomorrow Rogue vs LH?

toxic yacht
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yee

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first game tomorrow

rapid oxide
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Ok

toxic yacht
rapid oxide
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๐Ÿ•ฏ

balmy wolf
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as a Rogue fan

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i'm preemptively putting my candles up ๐Ÿ•ฏ

pine star
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@balmy wolf I stopped playing Reaper halfway in the Beyblade meta tbf lol

balmy wolf
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<= became a Reaper one trick during the Beyblade meta because of team requirements

pine star
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I discovered Zarya and Tracer (เธ‡ใƒ„)เธง

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LH and Rogue run a similar dive

toxic yacht
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not really

pine star
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Maybe Rogue can mechanically out-perform them?

toxic yacht
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LH only started doing triple dps recently

pine star
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Yeah

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That's why I said it lol

toxic yacht
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I don't even know if they'll run dive

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I mean, they probably will

pine star
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The difference is that the one to play D.Va in LH is the Soldier instead of the Genji

toxic yacht
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because rogue is strong, so they'll probbaly pull out what they do best

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in theory they could put gido on hog and try to run a selfless like thing since the selfless comp is actually the counter to a triple dps dive

pine star
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We all knew Rogue one-trickery would bite them in the ass one day ๐Ÿ•ฏ

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Should be a good map regardless

balmy wolf
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more like NA needs to catch up to the EU

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as per usual

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it didn't help that in KR

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everyone and their moms had fight a Genji like NicoGDH before

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so he looked like crap over there

toxic yacht
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well, exactly what happened to nV happened to rogue

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they smurfed in NA for too long

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and didn't really improve as a team

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kinda hard to improve when you only have 2 teams that offer any degree of resistance

pine star
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lol

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We need more global tournaments

rapid oxide
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OC

balmy wolf
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only NA/EU

pine star
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By global I meant with teams from all regions

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OC is not that

balmy wolf
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they just need to make OW Open 2017

pine star
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Something like LOL's MSI

toxic yacht
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or MSI's MGA

rapid oxide
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OWO was EU NA only

pine star
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What's this

toxic yacht
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the open?

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it was EU and NA

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finals were EU vs NA

rapid oxide
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UwU

pine star
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lmao

balmy wolf
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back then EU/NA was global. Just plug SK and Wild card region. Done

toxic yacht
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but the playoffs and groups were region specific

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Atlantic Showdown did it best

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just take a bunch of EU and NA teams and throw them together randomly

rapid oxide
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Can't wait to see SKT T1 on Overwatch pwning western making the game boring anx predictable LULcio

toxic yacht
#

but wait, we got an EU vs EU final then

#

lol

#

because of course we did

pine star
#

Wildcard region? You mean NA? LUL

rapid oxide
#

Because NA is shit

balmy wolf
#

16 teams, 4 different regions, Swiss Format group stages into Double Elims BO5, final are BO7

toxic yacht
#

and let's not kid ourselves, if nV had beaten rogue

#

it'd still have been an EU vs EU final

balmy wolf
#

Wildcard = OCE, SEA and Brazil

rapid oxide
#

Imo the truly good NA team only is IMT and LG

balmy wolf
#

and even then

#

they are above average at best

#

IMT got invite to APEX

#

I wonder how badly they'd get rape if they were to accept it

toxic yacht
#

it'd be a pretty good environment to practice in

rapid oxide
#

Sauce?

toxic yacht
#

I'd purely accept is it because of that

#

but yeah, iirc they declined because two of their players still go to school

#

I forgot where I read it though

balmy wolf
#

it was when the NRG rumors mill was spinning

rapid oxide
#

Because Fnatic, C9 and NRG weren't stomped by lorrans zaryalol

#

Koreans

balmy wolf
#

Fnatic got exposed

#

C9 was having Mendo doing his shit

toxic yacht
#

I'm still salty about c9

#

they could have won

#

if they had played vs AF Blue properly

rapid oxide
#

Techinally even misfits got stomped

toxic yacht
#

but nooo, they had to throw vs one of the weakest teams

#

and barely lose to KD Uncia

rapid oxide
#

Envy struggled

toxic yacht
#

I'm still salty af

balmy wolf
#

I'm curious to see how much eUnited had improved since they boot camped in KR

toxic yacht
#

eh, the only stompy thing that happened to misfits was gibraltar

#

apart from that it was all very close games

rapid oxide
#

And LaserKittenz

#

Sure Sojum :)

toxic yacht
#

it was

#

it's a fact

#

lol

balmy wolf
#

still pissed at Misfits losing to LH in IEM Gyegonggi due to its bullshit OT rules

#

BO1 KOTH

#

fucking what

toxic yacht
#

literally 2 ties

#

but nooo, bo1 koth

#

and we all know that koreans are better at koth

rapid oxide
#

Bo1

#

Forgot about it

toxic yacht
#

like, the only map where misfits got stomped at IEM was lijiang

rapid oxide
#

Nice lul

toxic yacht
#

hollywood and that other map I forgot

#

ah, volskaya

#

where close af

rapid oxide
#

IEM is terrible

toxic yacht
#

like, literally ties

rapid oxide
#

Even on LoL

#

IEM works for csgo because trash goes 2getheg lul

#

Shit game but it's entertaining watching it

wary falcon
#

Reaper is okayish on KOTH against winston

#

with his recent buff i think he will gain popularity

rapid oxide
#

Not really

#

High tier. Reaper used to reload before going wrath form... You don't have to press R anymore now

balmy wolf
#

so one more?

#

That was the last one

#

didn't they qualified?

#

Oh yeah they did

#

Maybe a late tweet?

#

But they only tweet about invites

#

hm no wait

#

they had a tweet for cyclone but they said they took the 1st qualifier

#

the riders tweet makes it seem like they were invited

dusty surge
#

@rapid oxide It's a 250ms cost to do the old reload cancelling into wraith.

#

The buff isn't much of a buff, but it'll make a difference in some fights.

balmy wolf
#

Oh wow Ex-Cyclone actually did rename themselves to Cyclowns

#

lol

rapid oxide
#

Slowpoke ^^

balmy wolf
#

Well I saw they did for Contenders but I just thought it was a meme

#

Only saw it was official now after looking at liquipedia

rapid oxide
#

They twitt about it and made a twitt account :p

#

Still unfortunate they doesn't have still an org

#

Guess we have to wait OWL

balmy wolf
#

I dont have a twitter or go on twitter

dusty surge
#

Is the contenders thing actually gaining ground or is it just viewed as a joke?

rapid oxide
#

Or OC

balmy wolf
#

I just see tweets posted here or on r/cow

rapid oxide
#

@dusty surge for some it is, for some its just grab 50k

#

Too bad the chance are fucking low lmao

balmy wolf
#

a shitload of teams signed up for it

#

from just plat friends to amateur teams to pro teams

#

so yes, it is gaining ground

rapid oxide
#

On 400,prob 100 are serious

dusty surge
#

Plats?

balmy wolf
#

they'd get smashed, yes

rapid oxide
#

Yes, its open

dusty surge
#

Well shit. I didn't realize I could be a gatekeeper in that tourney. :P

rapid oxide
#

Season 1 is locked i think?

#

Master +

balmy wolf
#

yeah

#

that's OW Open League though

rapid oxide
#

There's a team called Gatekeeper haha

balmy wolf
#

Open Division is Master+

rapid oxide
#

But they see peak or current? NANOTHINK

balmy wolf
#

Probably current

rapid oxide
#

Fuck haha

balmy wolf
#

Seems it goes Season 0 OC => Open Division => Season 1 OC

dusty surge
#

So where does this fit in with OWL then?

rapid oxide
#

NRG sign and lose against plast and lose the chance for OWL HYPERLUL

#

I would die of laugh

balmy wolf
#

@dusty surge this is basically the Combine

#

no draft

dusty surge
#

No draft, eh? Hrmm...

balmy wolf
#

it is due to the legality of it

#

no players union = no draft

dusty surge
#

Legality?

balmy wolf
#

it is illegal in the US to have a draft without a players' union

dusty surge
#

Really? TIL

balmy wolf
#

@rapid oxide watching the clip of the Seagull's stream team

#

and NRG

#

NRG probably lose to Seagull's team as funny as that sounds

rapid oxide
#

Most likely

#

NRG chemistry is trash

#

On live but good on scrim according to them

#

People expect a lot from them because they overhyped themself

pine star
supple nymph
#

S T R E A M E R S H O W D O W N

limber pine
#

hey I just announced that

#

it's as if you read my mind blobthinkingeyes

supple nymph
tawny jay
#

Lunatic hai

supple nymph
#

caw

vestal mortar
#

caw caw

supple nymph
#

FIGHT OR FLIGHT RESPONSE

#

his name's seagull

#

๐Ÿ‘€

vestal mortar
#

Is Muselk dumb or not? zaryalol

pine star
#

He is

supple nymph
#

SYMMETRA

#

ITS SYMMETRA

#

WHAT

#

..

#

pharah?

vestal mortar
#

Seag nuu

supple nymph
#

how is that pharah??

vestal mortar
#

Slow and steady Jeff wins the race

supple nymph
#

i dont understand any of the refs lol

vestal mortar
#

same

supple nymph
#

faster than a helix rocket = pharah?

#

๐Ÿ‘€

vestal mortar
#

Jeff! pogchimp

dusty surge
#

How to make adblock block Doa?

rapid oxide
#

0 effort from jeff

#

He doesn't want to rekt them hard

vestal mortar
supple nymph
#

WHAT

#

ITS VOLKSKYA

rapid oxide
#

Are all of 3 retards or what?

supple nymph
#

HOW DOES HE NOT KNOW

vestal mortar
#

Seagull drawing pogchimp

#

Seagull oh noey

#

i cri everytim

#

lmao

wintry matrix
#

man, i'll quit ow esports for this

vestal mortar
#

give me more

#

LIPS?! LMAO

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

rapid oxide
wintry matrix
#

Overwatch finally achieved it's full potential as a competitive showing

rapid oxide
#

Jeff Dank memers

vestal mortar
#

Jeff is so good

jagged crater
#

DoA has been growing that beard

rapid oxide
#

Muselk tried to cheat by alt tabbing lmao

#

But got caught by chat, prob he read it and didn't cheated

jagged crater
#

jeff destroyed monthly melee ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

rapid oxide
#

?

jagged crater
#

well someone at blizzard did

rapid oxide
#

There was a reason

#

Because they gave us overwatch contenders

#

June and july will have 3 lans

jagged crater
#

yes

rapid oxide
#

Im fine with it

#

About getting no AMM

#

LAN>Online

pine star
#

lel

jagged crater
#

bruh

#

(bruh)

rapid oxide
#

Lets make babies Monte HYPERGACHI

pine star
#

...

rapid oxide
#

Love Monte. Got 2nd spot in my fav list

pine star
#

Sure...

rapid oxide
jagged crater
#

someone say timo

balmy wolf
#

@rapid oxide idk about "good on scrim"

#

since I know at least one person had said that Harbleu statement was kind of false

rapid oxide
#

True

balmy wolf
#

AMM tonight :D

#

With Shadder

#

wut

#

The only teams playing are Yikes, CLG and Selfless

limber pine
#

yah

#

it's the last semi-final and the final

#

Spoiler

vestal mortar
#

Oh dang I forgot all about that haha

rapid oxide
#

Just hope Yikes lose

#

That's it

balmy wolf
#

me too

supple nymph
#

me too

balmy wolf
#

me too

rapid oxide
#

me too

toxic yacht
#

me too

#

jk

balmy wolf
#

?

toxic yacht
#

xQc is a snek, but no reason to want them to lose

supple nymph
#

๐Ÿ

balmy wolf
#

I meme'd that this is the last chance Selfless can win an OMM now that Rogue is getting their ass shoved in while in Korea

#

but i'm not quite sure if I like YIKES getting the win either

toxic yacht
#

also, not playing on sunday may have fucked them because it allowed selfless to watch the vods of them mysteriously finding out how to beat stronger teams, which wouldn't have been the case on sunday

#

not a fan of xQc, but if they lose like this I'll be kinda meh

#

and if they win I'll still feel meh because I want Selfless to win

#

it's a lose-lose situation, lul

#

thanks comcast and the amazing OMM organaization!

balmy wolf
#

meh, xQC always treat inconveniences as direct attack to his team

#

like that episode vs the BK Stars

toxic yacht
#

yee, he does

#

lol

#

he needs to get triggered less

balmy wolf
#

He's an asshole or something? nice

#

like I mean, this isn't fucking Korea with teams filled with analysts and hardcore coaches

#

so he is just being salty for the sake of it

toxic yacht
#

like, tbh the whole jolsen thing wouldn't have been an issue at all if he had cut him like a normal human being

#

I'd actually have been on his side, lul

#

but nooo, he had to do it in the most snakey way humanly possible and throw his org under the bus

balmy wolf
#

I disliked him way back when he and Rise Nation acted like kids vs BK Stars

#

and they still lost with ping disadvantages

toxic yacht
#

that's what made me dislike him in the first place

#

it also made me much less sympathetic to Rise

#

tbh the whole thing was just immature af

#

well, not surprising considering the average age of your typical OW pro...

balmy wolf
#

Sojum aren't you the same age?

#

_>

limber pine
#

The May Alienware Monthly Melee is live in ~3 minutes!

Today's Schedule

Lower Bracket Final: CLG Counter Logic Gaming vs Selfless selfless
Finals: Winner of LB Final vs YIKES! NorthAmerica

Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/curse

toxic yacht
#

well, the fact that I'm around this age gives me extra insight into how retarded a lot of these people can be

supple nymph
#

๐Ÿ‘€

balmy wolf
#

I'm 24 and I want to strangle some of these people tbh

toxic yacht
#

oh yeah, 76 got nerfed

#

dafran will now have to aim at you for 0.04 seconds more to kill you?

#

tbh this doesn't affect tracer much imo

#

it affects heroes whose damage can be divided by 20 more

#

tracer will still get the 10 damage, it fucks up killing genjis and stuff more tbh

#

...dafran?

#

ah yeah, it's the og selfless comp again

supple nymph
#

DAFRAN TAKING DUMPS

toxic yacht
#

dafran pls

balmy wolf
#

CLG playing the Koreans triple tank

supple nymph
#

WHAT

balmy wolf
#

LUL

supple nymph
#

????

toxic yacht
#

dafran

#

wot

supple nymph
#

?!?!?!?!?!

balmy wolf
#

LOOOL

toxic yacht
#

WOT IS DIS

#

LMAO

balmy wolf
#

THAT SIN TRACKING

#

going up against Dafran and no D.va

#

LOOOOL

#

like what mate

supple nymph
#

WHATEASDF

balmy wolf
#

Dude

#

did you see that tracking on miso

supple nymph
#

REEEEEE

balmy wolf
#

that was sooo bad lol

toxic yacht
#

LMAO

balmy wolf
#

what

toxic yacht
#

wtf is this

supple nymph
#

FUCKING DEAD

balmy wolf
#

Why is there no music?

amber ember
#

the return of el presidente

balmy wolf
#

and why is there a Bastion?

toxic yacht
#

this must fuck with you so much if you're CLG

deep abyss
#

This comp is insane

toxic yacht
#

wtf

#

well, it was an almost free streets phase

balmy wolf
#

WHY IS SHAKE AN ZENYATTA

#

Shake Zen + Hydration Genji = HYPERGACHI

#

jfc

#

so many ults

toxic yacht
#

wtf is this

#

waffle on cree

balmy wolf
#

Waffletastic trying to be Taimou again

#

Waffle cosplaying Hqrdest

#

Hmm triple tank

toxic yacht
#

dafran genji

#

2nd time I'm seeing this

balmy wolf
#

Holy heckeroni

toxic yacht
#

dude

#

how fast did he get ult

#

holy shit

#

I knew that his genji was good

#

but wow

#

70% ult

#

wtf

balmy wolf
#

god genji

toxic yacht
#

dafran is a fucking god

#

holy shit

#

wtf

balmy wolf
#

The Tracer/Genji hmmmMM

dusty surge
#

1-1 in 15 minutes? Fast rounds.

balmy wolf
#

1-1 from Friday

dusty surge
#

Oh, so it's just starting now.

balmy wolf
#

It was delayed

#

due to internet issues

dusty surge
#

Ah ha.

toxic yacht
#

emongg feeding so much today

#

they seem to be focusing him a lot

#

is it just me or did the quality just drop...?

balmy wolf
#

Selfless getting tilted again

#

that's the only explanation I have

digital pond
#

THAT WAS A SOON PULSE BOMB LOL

#

Throw it and people walk into it

toxic yacht
#

no way they're winning without OT

#

nice selfless

#

lmao the teabag

rapid oxide
#

BO5?

dusty surge
#

In spectator mode, do you see the crosshair of the player you're spectating, or is it your own crosshair?

toxic yacht
#

bo5

#

I think it's the one of the dude you're spectating...?

#

I have no idea

#

lemme check

rapid oxide
#

Yes

toxic yacht
#

I'm watching scrim clips rn

#

everyone has my Pro CS:GO green dot crosshairโ„ข

#

so nope, when speccing it's yours

#

killcam is the enemies though iirc

dusty surge
#

I see

balmy wolf
#

Whenever you're spectating its your crosshair

#

and then same when playing

#

Well actually, when playing if you have the default crosshair thats what you see in killcam

#

and then likewise for the other crosshairs

toxic yacht
#

Dafran ๐Ÿ˜

balmy wolf
#

not your crosshair for that hero they're playing

#

Losing against Tracer with Pharmercy...

toxic yacht
#

wtf is dafran...

supple nymph
#

hey chat your all plat

balmy wolf
#

That entire round was too satisfying to watch

#

I don't think Dafran died even once

dusty surge
#

I don't think he did. Had the 15+ streak fanfare.

balmy wolf
#

that throw

toxic yacht
#

oh hey, he's dead now

balmy wolf
#

reminder that CLG is a one trick team

toxic yacht
#

waffle NotLikeMiya

#

what was teh point of that pulse bomb?

balmy wolf
#

imo they can run 2 comps reliably

toxic yacht
#

they lost the fight anyway

balmy wolf
#

Pharah/Genji, Mercy/Ana, Lucio, Tracer/76, D.Va/Zarya and Monkey/Rein

#

their tanks comp are nowhere near reliable enough

#

and now they tried Korean Triple Tanks

#

which is a bit of a ๐Ÿค”

#

I feel like the Genji, Ana, Lucio, Tracer, Zarya and Rein comp is better

toxic yacht
#

anyway, selfless should win the next stage

balmy wolf
#

Because Shiny and Miso's rein and zarya are much better than their Winston and D.Va

toxic yacht
#

...

#

nice barrage

balmy wolf
#

Emongg not driving his mech to Hydration

#

why

#

that was just....luck

#

ffs

#

Ult advantage to selfless aswell

#

This is over

toxic yacht
#

well

#

rip CLG

#

no way they're winning the next stage

balmy wolf
#

Reverse Sweep I believe

rapid oxide
#

CLG NotLikeMiya

balmy wolf
#

Dafran Orisa ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

toxic yacht
#

triple tank vs selfless

#

no pharmercy

#

lol

balmy wolf
#

No Miso zarya

toxic yacht
#

dafran going full soloQ

balmy wolf
#

Is this SNG Ninjas vs Hammers?

toxic yacht
#

WTF IS HE DOING

#

lmao

balmy wolf
#

Waffle "I can't DPS" Tastic

toxic yacht
#

he was literally behind the team...

dusty surge
#

Clg looks to be done

toxic yacht
#

in their face

balmy wolf
#

Choco Taco HYPERGACHI

solid spear
#

Soldier nerfed, still better than McCree ;_;

balmy wolf
#

JESUS

#

FATTY SHATTY

#

A Kaiser shatter

digital pond
#

Daaaamn Kresnik

toxic yacht
#

lol

dusty surge
#

And that's gg

digital pond
#

They have families

toxic yacht
#

fucking rip CLG

#

POTM

balmy wolf
#

I have a feeling it might be Sin on Shrine

toxic yacht
#

lol

balmy wolf
#

BM

#

CLG died like a bitch

toxic yacht
#

lmao

balmy wolf
#

gg

toxic yacht
#

lmfao

balmy wolf
#

the heck

#

dhak?

#

Lucio POTG

#

CLG just mentally broken with that

toxic yacht
#

dhak?

balmy wolf
#

Waffle just threw himself off the cliff

toxic yacht
#

not kresnik?

#

well, that was dominant

balmy wolf
#

CLG got broken

toxic yacht
#

CLG ded

balmy wolf
#

When will slasher get better lighting

feral solar
#

does anyone else has the master overwatch thing on twitch?

balmy wolf
#

or a greenscreen

rapid oxide
#

CLG ๐Ÿ•ฏ

balmy wolf
#

Where's the hanzo picks BabyRage

toxic yacht
#

dafran tried

#

decided to go with his brotha though

balmy wolf
#

Where's Mendo on KR BabyRage

toxic yacht
#

well, I've seen dafran get pushed to genji twice now

#

first time was after he got pushed to pharah

#

now he went straight to genji

balmy wolf
#

that was the first time ive seen it

toxic yacht
#

he went genji vs LGE

#

LGE had them down to 2-0 on illios

balmy wolf
#

in the same melee?

toxic yacht
#

nah

#

PIT

#

he then went pharah and 1v2'd jake's and rob420's pharmercy

#

then he went genji in the last round

balmy wolf
#

ah

#

idk if i watched it

#

if i dont remember him going genji then i probably didnt

toxic yacht
#

but yeah, he went pharah

#

his pharah is really good too

#

his pharah is really good teo

#

his pharah is really good toe

balmy wolf
toxic yacht
#

new pasta bois

#

Guys, I'm shaking. I'm fucking shaking. I never wanted to play overwatch with anyone more than I want to with zza. That perfect, crisp tracking. Those bountiful kills. The 800 dpi sens of a literal goddess. It honestly fucking hurts knowing that I'll never play with him.

balmy wolf
#

mind you

#

this weekend

#

there's the Rumble

#

and next week

#

Contenders

#

i'm busy trying to prepare for both of my teams too

#

Oasis first

#

well fuck

toxic yacht
#

dafran genji

#

@balmy wolf u watching again

#

dafran gengu

solid spear
#

solo support lol

toxic yacht
#

holy shit

#

dafran

balmy wolf
#

Selfless C9 themselves

toxic yacht
#

yeah, lul

#

they should have won that

balmy wolf
#

Oasis is a shit map for delay

#

honestly

#

and also, no one shooting at the D.va that pocketing the Winston

#

wtf, Selfless

toxic yacht
#

well, this comp probably wasn't going anywhere

#

is kresnik that bad on winston?

balmy wolf
#

The C9 meme is getting out of hand

supple nymph
#

c9

balmy wolf
#

It gets thrown around too much when people don't even know what it really means

toxic yacht
#

it got out of hand weeks ago when idiots in twitch chat started spamming it without knowing what it means

#

now literally every loss is c9

balmy wolf
#

I watched the AFB vs C9 match mind you

#

lol

#

^@sojum

solid spear
#

.~.

supple nymph
#

c9!

toxic yacht
#

not c9

#

selfless had 2 men alive

#

no way they'd engage

#

why is Selfless ReUniteding themselves

#

.-.

dusty surge
#

Why are they calling ZZA "pizza?"

toxic yacht
#

been wondering myself

#

๐Ÿ™ƒ

#

Selfless is the NA ReUnited?

balmy wolf
#

REU is a special team

toxic yacht
#

triple tank lushio?

balmy wolf
#

That bomb...

toxic yacht
balmy wolf
#

This is a crushing

supple nymph
#

WHAT

toxic yacht
#

...

supple nymph
#

WHAT

#

WHAT

toxic yacht
#

...

supple nymph
#

WHAT

#

WHAT

toxic yacht
#

...

dusty surge
#

Wow

toxic yacht
#

...

dusty surge
#

He salty

toxic yacht
#

wtf

supple nymph
#

REEEEE

toxic yacht
#

wtf

#

wut

#

dafran

balmy wolf
#

...?

toxic yacht
#

wtf

dusty surge
#

How old is Dafran?

toxic yacht
#

young

#

not sure how old though

red anvil
#

Wat did i come into on selfless vs. yikes 0-0

supple nymph
dusty surge
#

@red anvil A salty Dafran throwing

red anvil
#

what the actual hell

toxic yacht
#

wtf

#

what in the actual fuck

red anvil
#

Did i just see that?

dusty surge
#

Granted, it was still unlikely they'd win the round, but they still had a solid chance of taking at least that team fight.

toxic yacht
#

I'm still in shock

balmy wolf
#

He's supposed to be a professional

#

If a football player does that during a match you can count on him getting suspended by coach

#

I just saw it

#

or even let go

toxic yacht
#

they're probably tilted af right now

balmy wolf
#

just what

#

Was on the toilet so havent been talking here but

#

holy shit dude

#

I did not expect that throw

supple nymph
#

hey chat your all plat

toxic yacht
#

they're 100% tilted, lul

red anvil
#

yeah they are done

balmy wolf
#

That comp too

toxic yacht
#

I just want them to win :(

supple nymph
#

tilted from what??

balmy wolf
#

Michael on monkey?

supple nymph
#

one game?

balmy wolf
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that comp was ridiculous

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

supple nymph
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half a game?

dusty surge
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Yeah. Two rounds on Oasis.

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Well... three

toxic yacht
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all because emongg's mouse misfired :(