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pure kettle
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Keep them weebs happy

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XD

solid spear
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but Sojum isnt happy

balmy wolf
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I'm questioning the logic of the Hanzo buffs too

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since inherently he is much more frustrating to play against

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at least with Widow you know that you fucked up and it is a hitscan weapon

pure kettle
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i havent handled him since those changes

digital pond
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Well they aren't live yet no?

balmy wolf
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meanwhile with Hanzo you can just get shot by a noob who spam shots through the corridor

pure kettle
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i can imagine getting scattershot as a hanzo climbed up to get to u

digital pond
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Or did the patch go live earlier today?

solid spear
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probably will be today

pure kettle
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would piss me right the fk off

digital pond
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Ight I didn't miss it then. I ahven't touched the PTR in forever.

balmy wolf
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Scatter Arrow is balanced - Blizzard

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it is supposedly for killing enemies through corner

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but people broke it into guarantee one hit kill every 12 seconds instead

toxic yacht
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I feel like the only reason why people are fine with scatter is because hanzo is so... yeah at everything else

pure kettle
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rather just have an aimable ricochet arrow

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πŸ˜›

toxic yacht
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imo they should redesign how scatter moves to make it for killing around walls

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I remember seeing a pretty good suggestion

rapid oxide
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you are using your logic too much sojum

toxic yacht
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but I forgot how exactly it changed the trajectory

rapid oxide
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you will never get hired by blizz if you use logic

balmy wolf
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Hanzo is weirdly high cap, but at the same time, abusable

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by lower skilled players

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It isnt even supposed to be only for killing people around corner

toxic yacht
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hanzo is very interesting

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actually

balmy wolf
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There's literally a tooltip that says "aim at the feet"

toxic yacht
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I really love playing him

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I just succ

solid spear
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I mean thats what Ive been saying this whole time Sojum bb....Hanzo is bad enough around the board that Im just like yeah whatever scatter

toxic yacht
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polo is the hanjo mein, he'd know

pure kettle
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i always end up on hanzo in mystery heroes

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ALOT

balmy wolf
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I mean you only need to hit what, 30 percent of your arrows and you'd be good?

pure kettle
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i think the game is telling me something

rapid oxide
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S U C CAngery

balmy wolf
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You need to hit 3/6 of the scattered arrows to kill a 200hp target

turbid shard
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Hanzo is just a genuine clone that requires way more accuracy πŸ˜‚

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*genji

toxic yacht
balmy wolf
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I actually want to see what it would be like to revert the change they made to scatter in beta

toxic yacht
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what did they change?

balmy wolf
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oh you mean "let me spam chokes and get a bullshit kill" arrows?

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Making it have a random spread again

toxic yacht
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it used to be random?

balmy wolf
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That might help the insta feet kills

toxic yacht
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huh, TIL

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lul

balmy wolf
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and make it better for killing around corners

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Yeah they changed it in like beta wave 3 or something?

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to have the same fixed spread

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everytime

toxic yacht
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I don't know, I dislike randomness in muh competitive games, but that'd definitely work around the free kill issue I have with it

balmy wolf
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It is not like Blizzard is known for reverting changes or anything

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oh wait.

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@toxic yacht Blizzard games always have that frustrating RNG elements so we have to kind of deal with it as players I guess

toxic yacht
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OW is my first Blizz game, so I wouldn't know

balmy wolf
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I feel like it being random instead of a fixed spread would help with it being an instakill at the feet and would also help turning it more down the "kill enemies you can't see" route

pure kettle
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as someone who has played WoW waaay to long

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Blizzard LOVES to revert changes.

balmy wolf
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Or they could make it bounce more times at full charge

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so higher chance to hit someone in a corridor

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or room

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last revert change that Blizzard did with OW was the projectile hitbox size

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and that was nearly a year ago

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Probably closer to like 6-8 months

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but go on

toxic yacht
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hitbox size must have been during the summer holidays

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brb checking

balmy wolf
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that was when Hanzo was shooting tree trunks again

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that must have been like at least 6 patches cycle

toxic yacht
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scatter used to headshot

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wtf

balmy wolf
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September 1st

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was when they reverted it

toxic yacht
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oh yeah, there was an overall hitbox nerf

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then they reverted his hitbox size

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then they made it smaller

balmy wolf
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I wish I could have played when scatter headshotted

toxic yacht
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lmao

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that sounds so tilting

balmy wolf
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If every arrow somehow hit the head that would be 900 damage

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lul

digital pond
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I remember playing on Numbani and taking the stairs on the elft with my team as Rein. And my allies watched a solo Hanzo walk tome and scatter my feet and one shot me.

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Now THAT was tilting.

toxic yacht
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but anyway, complaints about hanjo or not, I wouldn't mind it if his pickrate went up by 3-4%

balmy wolf
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I love playing vs reins that just shield and walk back as hanzo

toxic yacht
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he's stupid fun to spectate

balmy wolf
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ez scatter

digital pond
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Nah Polo thing is

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I had a hog behind me

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The hanzo was walking in the tunnel while aiming at such a slow pace.

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He just watched him

balmy wolf
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fucking lul

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The projectile hitbox nerf was at July, and it took them 2 months to revert it, and then reduce the Hanzo arrow by itself by 33%

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πŸ€”

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at least we aren't dealing with tree trunk arrow Hanzo

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Okay, I was just saying it wasnt almost a year ago

toxic yacht
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faster projectiles with more bearable hitboxes are better anyway

balmy wolf
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this round of buffs won't change Hanzo much, but QP Hanzo enthusiasts will probably salivating at this

toxic yacht
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am qp hanzo enthusiast, can confirm

balmy wolf
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I do want at least 76 to get a reduced spread though, along with his reduced damage.

toxic yacht
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I know that taimou was pretty excited about the changes and finds them very significant

digital pond
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Skilltages.

balmy wolf
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I mean those changes can only benefits him

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since he does plays Hanzo

digital pond
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The music ugh.

balmy wolf
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inb4 people start using pick comp again and somehow this is a "new discovery"

toxic yacht
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mfw I see a pharah with a "Ta" on his name

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and hope that it's talespin

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but it's fucking taimou

balmy wolf
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Holy fuck

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Watching that just reminds me how much EFFECT made that win vs MA happen

digital pond
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I mean I expect to see Tspinna in contender league with the ex-fnatic people he said he's playing with.

toxic yacht
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holy shit

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that effect transistion

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I GET THE REFERENCE

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for the uninitiated who don't get why the effect transition is so significant,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz3rcJrpiFM

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balmy wolf
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such a good montage

digital pond
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Ryu has some sick montages

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His NoBlueScreen montages are pretty damn good

toxic yacht
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well, tbh the only part where effect really hardcarried was in hollywood

balmy wolf
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need more data on him, basically.

toxic yacht
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the rest was more of a team effort with effect consistently performing very well

balmy wolf
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too bad though Lui is now benchwarming nV

toxic yacht
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like, effect was very good throughout the match

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including the maps that they lost

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and yeah, rip lui

digital pond
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@toxic yacht This is one of the funniest thing imo https://youtu.be/K7Cwyi7LuTw?t=1m55s

RYU

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toxic yacht
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apparently effect got to rank 2 with his genji smurf

digital pond
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At 1:55

toxic yacht
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so rip Lui genji and rip lui even more

balmy wolf
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Is that Necros ThinkSmug

toxic yacht
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I hope that he's a good benchwarmer

balmy wolf
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ez money bois

digital pond
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Making that money TSM style emongLul

balmy wolf
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Lui probably will get the Hulk treatment after APEX

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why bother with a 7th man when you got EFFECT

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compare to EFFECT Lui isn't going to bring anything significant on the table.

rapid oxide
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-5 fwuvN

toxic yacht
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guys

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can't wait for the Mirage Montage

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called...

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EFFECT

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hehehe

balmy wolf
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less montages, tbh

supple nymph
balmy wolf
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don't want to see people getting hype ala Dummy

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again

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Nah more

rapid oxide
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Lui video editing FeelsCringeMan

balmy wolf
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We need more

toxic yacht
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I mean, I still like dummy's montages

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sure, they don't represent his actual moment to moment gameplay

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but they're fun to watch

balmy wolf
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as ZP pointed out though

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it is basically moments where dumb decisionmaking

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somehow panned out

digital pond
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My favorite part of his montages was guessing which time he died post sleep dart.

supple nymph
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every conversation comes back to NRG

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πŸ‘€

balmy wolf
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is there an OW version of Godwin's Law?

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now instead of Hitler

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it is NRG

supple nymph
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do you think Team Seagull will beat NRG in Contenders?

balmy wolf
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"As an online OW discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving NRG approaches 1"

rapid oxide
balmy wolf
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oh fuck

digital pond
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KAMEN RIDER GENJI

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LOL

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I NEED IT

balmy wolf
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most characters got non-theme legendary skin

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naisu

digital pond
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Also another unlisted video link lmao

toxic yacht
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you know

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I love how the EFFECT montage has a massive missplay

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there is a graviton

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and he stickies cree instead of going for the big bang

rapid oxide
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RIP my wallet FeelsLifeMan

pine star
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And then kills everyone lol

toxic yacht
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no

digital pond
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Cyber hanzo too

toxic yacht
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he didn't kill everyone

pine star
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So Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

toxic yacht
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he killed one guy

pine star
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Holy shit those skins

toxic yacht
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and the rest escaped from the grav

digital pond
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The new tracer skin

supple nymph
digital pond
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Is actually fucking sick

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Reminds me of how UNSICK zarya skin is

solid spear
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more Tracer skins gachiGASM

digital pond
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Right next to it

solid spear
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keep giving my main skins

digital pond
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Actually saddenning

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Lucio skin is funny too

supple nymph
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streamer showdown jeff and seagull

toxic yacht
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zarya is a transformer

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hanzo looks like jetstream sam

pine star
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Zarya skin mendoGao

toxic yacht
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lucio's and dvas

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OMG

balmy wolf
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the skin looks good as usual but i'm not quite sure if some of them are thematically fit

pine star
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Fuck thematical correctness

solid spear
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more D.Va and Tracer skins bless Blizzard you do no wrong in my eyes

pine star
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Shit's lit lol

supple nymph
balmy wolf
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idk, some of them is in the same level as a Brazilian in Lucio have a Hockey skin

pine star
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THAT DVA

balmy wolf
pine star
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πŸ•― πŸ’³ πŸ•―

balmy wolf
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Jazz style Lucio πŸ€”

rapid oxide
balmy wolf
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New Controller option: Force Keyboard/Mouse User Interface
Developer Comments: When PC players switch from using the Keyboard/Mouse to a game controller, the game’s user interface is dynamically updated to the console/controller version. Additionally, the button layout on many heroes (like Hanzo, Zenyatta, and Mercy) is different on console. In the past, when a player chose to play using a controller and a mouse, the UI would constantly switch, depending on which device was sending information to the game. This new option allows players to set a default user interface if they choose to use a controller along with a keyboard/mouse.

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Question: who play using controller on PC?

supple nymph
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Bronze ?

toxic yacht
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soldier nerfs are through

balmy wolf
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NA wise

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Soldier is still probably the must pick

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KR wise

digital pond
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Super has a controller only account in GM

balmy wolf
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McCree

digital pond
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v0v

balmy wolf
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he plays Tank though....

digital pond
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Yeah

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You didn't precise shit

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You asked you got answered.

balmy wolf
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seems rather hostile there but ok

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no info on the esport side with the developer update

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seems like there's no camera/spectator mode improvement just yet

toxic yacht
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wew

supple nymph
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H Y P E

balmy wolf
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this menu screen is going to burn my eyes whenever I play at night

rapid oxide
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cant imagine how much fucking money they will earn from only today

balmy wolf
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Reaper haven't had a legendary skin since forever too, btw

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You got your halloween one

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and the sick christmas one

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that was last year

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the Christmas one wasn't even a legendary

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it was a rare.

wintry matrix
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but it was cool

balmy wolf
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maybe, but Reaper only have one legendary after release so far

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then again

wintry matrix
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i think he's better than some in that regard

balmy wolf
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McCree only have the Blackwatch legendary so far

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the amount of Tracer legendary though

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5 fucking Legendaries

wintry matrix
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well, she's the poster character, and qt

balmy wolf
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of course, but still

wintry matrix
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still, he's better than characters like Hanzo or Zarya, or Sym (who only got two purples i think)

balmy wolf
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I wonder who's in charge of the skins department with these weird ass skin decisions

wintry matrix
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probably who they think fits better the concept of the event

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that or any arbitrary list

balmy wolf
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there doesn't seems to be a unified theme this time around

wintry matrix
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I mean, for the previous ones

balmy wolf
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previous one was good because it actually have a consistent theme

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this time around is a bit more random

wintry matrix
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also probably got to do with what ideas the skin team has, like, they think of a skin first, then which character second maybe?

balmy wolf
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half of the roster got futuristic cyborg skins, some other got some 1960s skin, Mei have a beekeeper skin (?) and Pharah got a Persian-style skin

wintry matrix
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it was bound to be random as it is a anniversary event (except if they put stuff like lil hats and cakes)

balmy wolf
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tfw somebody called the Kamen Rider skin "Power Ranger"

pine star
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I need that D.Va skin inside of me

limber pine
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O_o

pine star
vestal mortar
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πŸ‘

pine star
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They should allow skins in esports tournaments

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πŸ‘€

toxic yacht
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they should reallow them

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I want muh mystery man aKm

pine star
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Kamen Nico slashing some pumpkins

balmy wolf
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with the upcoming OW Contenders, the rule still stated that there will be no skins

pine star
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I know

toxic yacht
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you mean kamen nico choking at LANs

pine star
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Fuck that tbh

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Nico LUL

balmy wolf
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daily reminder than LAN > Online

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Online is good for determining strength in any point in time

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but ultimately if you cant perform in LAN you are kind of shite.

pine star
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You mean if you can't*?

balmy wolf
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yeah

pine star
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Yeah, I agree

balmy wolf
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Faze Clan and Shadowburn is so mystifying in that regards

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Faze got 2nd finish at MLG Vegas

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but everyone write them off because of their online performance

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meanwhile as a Rogue fanboy, while it is nice to see them smurfing on NA

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the way they are performing in APEX is kind of heartbreaking

ripe marlin
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yeah rogue has got an uphill battle with LH

balmy wolf
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Rogue was kind of able to get by because lack of strong DPS in the region

pine star
balmy wolf
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it is no coincidence that the only NA team that gave them a fight was Selfless

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and Selfless had 3 players that made Rogue's life hell

ripe marlin
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yeah i agree but thats in my opinion likely to be the best match at apex thus far will be rogue vs lh

balmy wolf
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I just want my boys Rogue to get past group stages 😒

ripe marlin
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and yeah its funny more teams didnt catch on to the dps thing

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i mean i think lg evil did they just didnt have the firepower

balmy wolf
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NA is weak in homegrown DPS.

ripe marlin
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jake was about it on that end

balmy wolf
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JAKE aka the discount Tviq

pine star
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lol

ripe marlin
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lol yeah but still very talented

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im a bit of a kondoo fan so i wouldnt be as happy to see a rogue win

pine star
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Jake is nowhere near as mechanically "gifted" as aKm or SoOn

balmy wolf
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right now gamebreaker DPS in NA can only be counts on one hand

ripe marlin
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yeah very few

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i think jake can find a level same as akm but not soon not yet at least

pine star
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I don't think so

ripe marlin
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wish shadowburn would find some fucking help on faze tho

pine star
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FaZe disbanded tho, didn't they

balmy wolf
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nah they are not

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might be on the chopping block though

ripe marlin
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i legit am a faze fan boy anbd i feel like if shadowburn didnt have 900 ping and some help they could be better look at lan results

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shadowburn is a carry machine

balmy wolf
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he hard carried Team Russia and Faze

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and then his back gave out at the end

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so feelsbadman

ripe marlin
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it does cause he is one of the most gifted talented players in this sport thus far

balmy wolf
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and also @pine star NA matchmaking is shit

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which make the talent pool more shallow

ripe marlin
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i cant even think genji without thinking shadowburn

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yeah na matchmaking is shit

pine star
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You guys are in heaven in NA

ripe marlin
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lol grass is always greener

pine star
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SA matchmaking is the deepest bottom you can ever touch

ripe marlin
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lol no doubt

balmy wolf
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Asia and EU will always having a better matchmaking experience

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but the language barrier muddles the water

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I kind of want to go back to SEA and grind from there

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more people plays = better matchmaking

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and less chances of running into Mercy mains ThinkingSombra

ripe marlin
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lol im going to mercy main on my smurf

pure kettle
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Battle Mercy Only.

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Do It.

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if mercy could dash without having a target, she might be deadly AF πŸ˜„

pine star
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I'm creating an assault rifle only Widow smurf

pure kettle
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^she gets it.

pine star
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He*

pure kettle
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My life has been a complete lie till now.

pine star
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Did you just assume my gender?

pure kettle
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Dam right I did.

pine star
pure kettle
limber pine
ripe marlin
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the era of battle mercy begins

pine star
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@limber pine oh hi Mark

limber pine
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who's mark

ripe marlin
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your mark

pine star
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Not getting a The Room reference smh

limber pine
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feelsbadman

ripe marlin
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lol

toxic yacht
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I did not hit her, I did not hit her, I did not

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Oh, hi Mark

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FaZe actually had good online results back in the TwoEasy days before MLG

ripe marlin
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i remember that two easy tourney was it zombs that was at a wedding orm something and twoeasy started filling in more

toxic yacht
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Zombs was a a wedding, so they got grego and swapped roles around a bit iirc

ripe marlin
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or am i thinking of grego not sure why he came to mind

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lol yeah

toxic yacht
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Since a bit before TwoEasy left they've been s complete mess and I really don't know if they can show up on LANs in their current state

ripe marlin
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i remember they used to meet cloud 9 in omm for 3 months straight in finals and just couldnt get over that hump

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actually i think they won the 3rd time

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yeah they need a roster shake up i hope they dont get dropped

toxic yacht
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yeah, they won the third time

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IMT won the one after that iirc

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then NGE and MLG Vegas happened

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and then NA scene was kill

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or at least very different

pine star
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"Kill" seems fitting

floral harness
toxic yacht
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lul

floral harness
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He's right πŸ€”

toxic yacht
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I fucking love this skin

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fucking

floral harness
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first team skill pogchimp

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skin"

toxic yacht
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also

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I didn't fucking realize

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holy shit

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that'd make perfect sense

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it was most likely nspired by the rogue logo to some degree

pine star
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As a Tracer main

balmy wolf
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S K I N S

pine star
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I hate that skin

balmy wolf
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??

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Tracer's is beautiful imo

pine star
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@balmy wolf oh now you show up

toxic yacht
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D V A S K I N

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nice of you to show up

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people play dva now

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can you start watching again?

balmy wolf
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Yes

pine star
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That D.Va skin is fucking everything

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I'm gonna a draw it lol

balmy wolf
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I had my final test yesterday :D

toxic yacht
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oh nice

pine star
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I think I'm in love

toxic yacht
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how did it go?

balmy wolf
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Fine, I think I only need one resit

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but that's in like a month so

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Freedom :3

toxic yacht
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F R E E D O M

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FaZe is still meh though

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which sucks

pine star
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FeelsGoodMan

balmy wolf
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Sojum dude

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Faze is Faze

toxic yacht
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:(

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I want them to be good again

balmy wolf
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Of course

pine star
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NRG Shadowburn gregoKappa

toxic yacht
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lul

balmy wolf
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Wait what?

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Did SDB transfer??

pine star
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I'm memeing, I'm just memeing

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Pls don't suicide

balmy wolf
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I won't at least until school starts again

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but I'm gonna sleep now so goodnight >_>

pine star
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EU timezone LUL

toxic yacht
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don't die in your sleep

balmy wolf
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@ripe marlin IMT is a very hit and miss team

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they won NGE but that was a T2 LAN

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to this day i'm still convinced that NGE was cursed

toxic yacht
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I feel like IMT is just slow to adapt

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they're pretty solid T2 NA

pine star
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Yup

balmy wolf
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IMT struggles to find their team color

toxic yacht
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yeah

balmy wolf
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it doesn't help that Grim kind of fade into the background while Agilities been showing some Shadowburn-like carry moment

pine star
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Also, Grim tilts

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With both Agilities and Grim at their peak, they're a pretty scary team tbh

balmy wolf
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that peak was like months ago

floral harness
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Dude

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wtf lol ?

toxic yacht
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I sometimes feel like IMT can't put resources into both dps at once

pine star
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Not really, because Agilities wasnt as solid as rn

toxic yacht
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like, they're both very solid DPS with very high peaks

pine star
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I mean, if they both were at they're peak lol

toxic yacht
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but grim is kinda inconsistent

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it always feels like one of them moves into the background when one pops off

balmy wolf
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the other day i suggested to some other discord that Grim is kind of shit right now and all I got was people shitting on me for saying so

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"wtf grim is insane"

toxic yacht
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if you take a team like say, old rogue with a strong dps duo, TviQ and aKm kept popping off at once

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with IMT it's like "Grim pops off for a week"

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Next week Agilities pops off

pine star
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They take turns lol

toxic yacht
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then one of them fades into the background and gives the other one spotlight

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yeah, they keep taking turns

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atm Agilities' turn has been lasting a bit long

balmy wolf
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he is on Genji, which allow him to carry more

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meanwhile Grim on Tracer and Soldier is a hit and miss adventure

pine star
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His hog tho

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Nutty stuff

toxic yacht
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I dream of a day when both can pop off at once

balmy wolf
#

His hog can get clutch hook but can be feedy at time

toxic yacht
#

Grim is very good when he's killing shit

pine star
#

Grim Cree FeelsLifeMan

toxic yacht
#

and agilities is one of the best NA dps and probably the best NA genji atm

#

A man can dream

pine star
#

Grim is like Timo

#

And aKm

toxic yacht
#

well, aKm never had a weak showing

pine star
#

Cree legends stuck in Soldier duty

toxic yacht
#

he's a bit like TviQ when he's consistently good

#

ah, you mean 76 duty

balmy wolf
#

eh

pine star
#

Yeah lol

balmy wolf
#

Grim Cree I think is/was overrated

#

he had a career defining series at NGE Final

#

but outside of that

pine star
#

That's a perfectly valid opinion

toxic yacht
#

I feel like he's just inconsistent. And requires a ton of space

pine star
#

Yup

#

I just love it when he pops off

toxic yacht
#

like, every time grim pops off it's either the entire team diving on him and he just kills them one by one

#

or it's a bit cleanuppy

balmy wolf
#

another thing to consider is that AKM's Cree and 76 are equally good, more so on McCree

#

Timo tends to explode on McCree and Widow

#

meanwhile Grim lagged behind on both

toxic yacht
#

Whenever Timo is not on hog he's kinda inconsistent imo

pine star
#

Yeah I was only referring to the fact that they are most known for their McCree but are just playing soldier late

#

Lately*

gentle shuttle
#

hey whatever happened to Enigma

toxic yacht
#

Engima is too busy not being on a team :(

balmy wolf
#

Timo is able to clutch the hardest out of the three though.

gentle shuttle
#

okis :C

balmy wolf
#

which make up for his inconsistency

toxic yacht
#

yeah, he definitely is

#

when he pops off he legit looks like a god

balmy wolf
#

you never see Grim pulling a Widow and just outright carry the team

pine star
#

I remember NGE

#

And teams fucking ignoring Grim

#

lol

balmy wolf
#

NGE final was career defining for Grim but I wonder how much was because of Kungarna feeding

toxic yacht
#

people ignoring grim is also what allowed him to pop off like that

#

lol

balmy wolf
#

they had Mykl on D.va

#

but never had him just DM the shit out of Grim

#

who just basically doing his best Duck Duck Hunt impression on the high ground

pine star
#

That's what happens when you put a DPS main on D.Va

toxic yacht
#

kek

pine star
#

They still try to DPS

toxic yacht
#

tbh I just want him to get more consistent

pine star
#

As -somewhat- a D.Va main, fuck that op D.Va in that meta lol

#

Fuck that meta entirely

toxic yacht
#

lol, D.Va is one of my most played heroes and I didn't touch her when she was op

pine star
#

I did

balmy wolf
#

that meta was interesting in a sense that it allow lesser DPS/off tank to fight on equal grounds vs higher skilled DPS, which is kind of anologous to how D.va mains manage to climb to GM just by abusing her

pine star
#

I lost a bit of my soul each soldier I killed

balmy wolf
#

of course it allowed people like Hafficool and Mykl to looked better than they actually are

toxic yacht
#

it also put shadowburn on dva

#

which tilts me until today

pine star
#

Tbh he's a pretty good D.Va thenkerino

toxic yacht
pine star
#

Lui FeelsBadMan

balmy wolf
#

Lui "i'm just benchwarming for nV"

toxic yacht
#

I really wanted to see Lui's entire pool and see him play more stuff more consistently

#

I hope that they get into a situation where swapping him in would actually make sense

pine star
#

Inb4 they bench Timo to run Genji+Tracer comps

balmy wolf
#

i'm not convinced Lui to be the answer nV was needed, because they have EFFECT

#

and Timo is just too good to be benchwarmning

#

it would be like Kaiser in Runaway

toxic yacht
#

I mean, Taimou runs a decent tracer

#

not super good

#

but it was decent enough for dive comps back when they had Tale

pine star
#

Decent is shit tier when you have GODFFECT

balmy wolf
#

gotta see more of him though

toxic yacht
#

Well, that depends on how good his genji is

balmy wolf
#

right now Soon is still the #1 Tracer

pine star
#

Lui plays a decent Genji

toxic yacht
#

his genji only alt is #2 in KR iirc

#

I know, it's matchmaking

#

but that probably means something

pine star
#

It does imo

balmy wolf
#

according to Alicus, ladder Genji in KR is about the same as EU Genji

toxic yacht
#

wot

#

wtf

#

that's insane

#

I mean, korean genjis are insane

#

so it shouldn't be that surprising

pine star
#

lol

balmy wolf
#

I remember I suggested to Alicus that he should look for ladder Genji in KR and he was like "nah, they are the same as EU ladder Genji"

#

or something to that effect

pine star
#

The amount of Genji one tricks in KR is ridiculous

balmy wolf
#

he tried to recruit Genjis from the orgs though, but all got turned away

toxic yacht
#

yes, but they're very good at that one trick

#

like, even average korean genjis are very good

#

fleta seems pretty average for korean standards, but he'd probably be considered one of the best in NA lul

#

well, NA is an unfair comparison since they lack genjis and projectile players for some reason

pine star
#

How's the best NA Genji besides Agilities?

toxic yacht
#

I mean, Seagull is pretty high up there for NA

#

surefour

#

is really good

balmy wolf
#

proj DPS in NA is not particularly deep

#

NiCO

toxic yacht
#

SoOn best tracer NA

#

Dafran

balmy wolf
#

one thing to consider in term of meta and hero choices in region is that in KR, there's no such thing as "ping"

#

and KR they likes to be all in aggressive

toxic yacht
#

Don't forget about Taimou

#

best hitscan NA

pine star
#

NiCO Ele Giggle

balmy wolf
#

Nico "I got exposed hard in KR" GDH

#

too bad in NA only Taimou's McCree can really scared him

#

meanwhile in KR everyone and their moms fight a Genji like him at one point or another

toxic yacht
#

I hope that NiCO gets his shit together on friday

pine star
#

That's why Genji is not considered meta in KR rn

toxic yacht
#

He seemed very uncomfortable on LAN

#

and I don't want Rogue to get out in the group stages

pine star
#

He can't handle playing in front of fangrills

#

I can't even English lul

spring lintel
#

WE NEED A SCORE BOARD

toxic yacht
#

I'm changing my avatar after the game anyway, but I want to change it knowing that NiCO actually overcame his choking

#

and not change it in shame

spring lintel
#

I dont care about the toxicity dumb excuse

#

We need score boards

#

Is there even a single shooter that doesnt have a scoreboard?

pine star
#

He's choking because of that infranatural keyboard and mouse setup

toxic yacht
#

infratural

#

lmao

balmy wolf
#

unnatural is the word you are looking for, lol

#

my set up are pretty weird too

#

I'd dread playing on LAN

pine star
#

Unnatural is not enough for that madness (?

rapid oxide
#

btw... If this is the only content we will get

#

Itz pretty much disappointing

#

Skins, maps used old assets and "new" game mode

#

I REALLY hope that tomorrow they will show more, like a new hero, that will come on PTR

#

Because if the streaming will be about only this.... Its fucking disappointing

balmy wolf
#

prepare to be disappointed

#

There's a new gamemode?

#

Lockout Elimination

#

Oh

#

i thought you meant a new mode

pine star
balmy wolf
pine star
supple nymph
rapid oxide
#

Please don't disappoint me Blizzard

dusty surge
#

lol prepare to be disappointed.

rapid oxide
supple nymph
#

Catalyst Sports & Media has collaborated with Sports Academy to unveil the first training facility dedicated specifically to esports

rapid oxide
#

Forbes fwuvN

gentle shuttle
#

can't overstate how godlike the overhauled killfeed UI is

#

best thing they've done to the game in a very long time

#

glad that they're finally starting to take action with the spectator side of things

supple nymph
#

nice

gentle shuttle
#

also shows who exactly has been rez'ed n shit

rapid oxide
#

And final blows

#

I would prefere an icon tbh

#

And res to be stacked

gentle shuttle
#

i like that idea

#

so nice getting your grav combos and your participation is actually shown :>

rapid oxide
#

YES BUT I WOULD PREFERE TEAM COLOR!

#

And spectator improvements pepoThump

pine star
#

Small steps Vake lol

vestal mortar
#

Yeah, slow down Vake, Jeff will bring us the goods

rapid oxide
#

Stay Vake ppl

gentle shuttle
#

team colour would help SO much

#

it's the easiest way thing they could do too

#

have a seperate tournament realm (which they kinda need anyway as we've seen in the past) have a tournament play-mode where its Red vs Blue

#

or whatever colours

#

yellow vs green

balmy wolf
#

bring back skins FeelsHugMan

vestal mortar
#

same

balmy wolf
vestal mortar
#

why are you so angry?

balmy wolf
#

πŸ’’

gentle shuttle
#

///<

ripe marlin
#

zarya envyus skin

toxic yacht
#

Make graffitti tracer the offial SoOn skin

gentle shuttle
#

it's a good ass skin. This is prolly my favourite collective of skins so far

toxic yacht
#

Widow has a good ass skin

#

well, all of hers are

gentle shuttle
#

haven't seen that yet

supple nymph
#

no NRG in rivalcade yet FeelsTiltedMan

balmy wolf
#

do you want NRG to be success or do you just want to see the dead horse getting beat @supple nymph

supple nymph
#

if they dont sign up for contenders anyway arent they fucked

#

or can they just get in later because ORG

#

did they decide if you can get into season 1 if you dont do contenders and arent on the list

ripe marlin
#

that would be interesting

balmy wolf
#

@supple nymph only Rogue/nV got that

#

privilege, I think

supple nymph
#

if they have to do contenders in a few weeks why not get the practice

#

plus there are lots of t4 teams for them to practice against

toxic yacht
#

If I buy this new tracer skin

#

will I be as good as SoOn?

pine star
#

If I buy Mystery Man, will I be as good as aKm?

solid spear
#

If I buy Safari will I be as good as Teo?

feral solar
#

new cs operation and overwatch update on the same day NotLikeSoldier

balmy wolf
#

new Operation?

#

wut

clever wagon
#

@pine star Don't. blizz is a terrible scammer. I'm using Mystery Man and I'm still stuck in plat

twin moon
#

@feral solar i know how u feel bro

pine star
#

It's all lies NotLikeSoldier

versed gate
tired escarp
edgy remnant
#

hempDog?

#

what

teal lynx
#

oh shit rob420 youre a god

pine star
#

πŸ‘€

wary falcon
#

Yeah Valve released new operation and another shitty case

#

MVP I. vs ROX Orcas

#

in a 3-4 hours

#

Any thoughts?

feral solar
#

have you seen the five seven hyper beast

#

thats not shitty

clever wagon
#

"Engravings... Give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"

toxic yacht
#

What the fuck?

#

New operation?

#

Holy shit

rapid oxide
gentle shuttle
#

MGSV..

#

the title for that game is meta as fuck

toxic yacht
#

rip Americans who wanted to watch takeover

vestal mortar
#

Aw

feral solar
wary falcon
#

have you seen the five seven hyper beast

#

i don't like it at all

#

new USP is quite good, i will use it instead of my old Royal Blue with Titan Katowice 2014

#

AK is okayish

#

and cover AWP is just ugly

#

Pinnacle still didn't add Apex S4 Challengers

#

: (

spring lintel
#

You know what would be the funniest thing ever?

#

NRG losing

#

In the qualifiers

rapid oxide
#

i would uninstall the game

#

delete twitch and twitter

#

and move on paladins

thick cosmos
#

Do 16 teams from EU and 16 teams from NA go to the group stages, like 32 teams in total or 8 for each region?

toxic yacht
#

8 teams per region iirc

toxic yacht
pliant ivy
#

I wonder what rogue is doing now

#

strategic meetings or testing comps

forest raven
#

Hopefully both

rapid oxide
pine star
#

Did some say MGSV esports? πŸ‘€

supple nymph
#

the thing is going

toxic yacht
#

we need a top 10 anime betrayals: overwatch edition

balmy wolf
#

So are any of you joining OWC?

toxic yacht
#

we're all plebs, methinks. The highest ranked regular in this channel is polo, and there's no way he's joining

supple nymph
#

kruise maybe ?

toxic yacht
#

we obv have a few pros and people like dids who are very high ranked and semi-pru, so I don't know about them

balmy wolf
#

There is a way but its not likely

supple nymph
#

OWC = overwatch world cup or contenders?

toxic yacht
#

contenders

supple nymph
#

ah

#

it's not OverWatchContenders though

#

OWC and OC make more sense?

toxic yacht
#

well, I've never seen anyone refer to the WC as OWC

supple nymph
#

but you thought he meant contenders

#

he could have meant world cup

balmy wolf
#

No he couldnt have

#

You dont join the WC you're picked

supple nymph
#

Slasher joined but ok

balmy wolf
#

???

supple nymph
#

?

spring lintel
#

Why the hell not?

#

I mean u can easily join just for fun

balmy wolf
#

the hell are you talking about

pine star
#

Slasher joined but ok

limber pine
#

what's harblue streaming today

#

any ideas?

supple nymph
#

@balmy wolf ?

balmy wolf
#

"Something really cool"

#

?

#

Sounds like its going to be PTR

#

oh Slasher

pine star
#

I never get to watch my boy Harb live because he either streams at fucking midnight or when I'm at work FeelsLifeMan

balmy wolf
#

well, he technically ins't in the fucking committee

#

Oh thats what he was talking about

#

but he is "making sure" that Team USA is getting the best roster

#

lol

#

He isnt even on the committee

#

And even if he did get himself in somehow, that isnt joining lol

#

more like grandfathering his way in

#

you'd thought he is probably engaging in some form of sabotaging just to please his EU overlords

#

as far as OW Contenders goes, both of my teams are signing in

#

if somehow we get a top 64/32 finish, I'd be happy lol

pine star
#

What's the format again?

balmy wolf
#

single elims BO3

pine star
#

Single elimination?

balmy wolf
#

yup

pine star
#

Shit

#

What happens if say Selfless and LG Evil meet?

balmy wolf
#

2 days of qualifiers

#

and those who finished top 8 iirc

#

will have favorable seeding for the next day

#

so even if Selfless tilted against LG Evil

#

then they can play for next day

#

and iirc top 8 are double elims

pine star
#

Yeah but

#

What if a pro team meets early on with another pro team and one of them eliminates the other and we for some reason get some meme random amateur team in the top 16?

balmy wolf
#

with this format, I don't think it might happen

#

most of the tier 2 team will get beaten by around RO16

#

except maybe some unsigned teams like YIKES or Kungarna

pine star
#

Shit confuses me lol

#

Still, can't wait

balmy wolf
#

i'd rather have Kungarna somehow meet YIKES

forest raven
#

I mean

balmy wolf
#

so we have less shit tier team

forest raven
#

There are two days of qualifiers

#

So if by some chance a pro team doesn't make it through and a meme team does, they'll have day 2 to get through

balmy wolf
#

they could always pull a Hammers

#

cruised through the qualifier, only to fail at final FeelsSadMan

forest raven
#

Then get invited anyway because Dignitas was taken out back

balmy wolf
#

Team Dignitas actually didn't get invited.

pliant ivy
#

I wonder why rogue and envy us didn't register their team to OWL

pine star
#

What?

pliant ivy
#

OWC I mean

pine star
#

Oh

balmy wolf
#

because they got a spot at the group stage

pine star
#

They don't need to

balmy wolf
#

they are guaranteed.

pine star
#

^

pliant ivy
#

ah then misfits and ninja get these spots?

balmy wolf
#

nah

pliant ivy
#

for EU

balmy wolf
#

Misfits, Ninja, Riders and one other team had priority seeds

forest raven
#

Rogue and nV are skipping season zero and going right to ro8 season 1

pine star
#

The only teams that go straight to group stages are nV and Rogue

balmy wolf
#

tfw you don't need to do qualifiers and season zero because you've been smurfing in NA for so long

pliant ivy
#

Because of their results?

forest raven
#

Also because they're in Korea

#

Same for C9 skipping quals of season zero, because they're gonna be in Germany

#

Also they're C9

supple nymph
#

literal c9

pliant ivy
#

And why not misfits. I mean they won a big tournament

supple nymph
#

because they are not there

pliant ivy
#

i think

balmy wolf
#

last time Misfits won a tourny was last year -_-

forest raven
#

Misfits have priority seeding

#

No team in EU is getting an automatic berth

pseudo rampart
#

Esports

#

I will never be good enough to join them

spring lintel
#

Nrg should skip to season 1

pine star
#

When are the group stages again?

pliant ivy
#

OWC?

forest raven
#

Group stages begin 17th and 24th for NA

#

18th and 25th for EU

pliant ivy
#

It will be fun to watch all these teams

#

qualifiers

forest raven
balmy wolf
#

you know the funny part of OW Contenders? Suddenly about 100 billions players just become free agents

forest raven
supple nymph
#

look at valkias tshirt

#

lmao

balmy wolf
#

the recruitment channels have been rather busy

pseudo rampart
#

I would love to do Overwatch Contenders

#

Sadly I don't have a group of 6

pliant ivy
#

It will be nice to do it every year

#

It will help many players

#

to get a change

forest raven
#

After this one there will be the Open Division which will be for Master+

pseudo rampart
#

Wew

#

I don't understand anything you guys are saying

forest raven
#

Right now for season zero of the Overwatch Contenders any team can sign up with a team of 6 - 8 players, regardless of skill level

#

After season zero there will be the Open Division, which is restricted to players of Master SR and higher

pliant ivy
#

i wonder how many master players are out here

#

2000 from each region?

forest raven
#

Season 3 numbers had Master players as 3 or 4% of the total player population

#

And that was calculated from season high, not season end

pliant ivy
#

the open division will be saeson high?

#

or current rank

forest raven
#

Assuming it will be players that consistently hold a rank of master or higher

#

But no clue

pliant ivy
#

also for world cup

#

did they announce the qualifier dates?

supple nymph
#

there are lots of articles in r/cow about it

balmy wolf
#

qualifiers for WC probably will happen after season zero is ended

solid spear
#

Im probably gonna get a slowpoke for this but I dont feel like scrolling back

balmy wolf
limber pine
#

Not sure if this was posted here yet, but there's been schedule changes: https://www.overwatchcontenders.com/news/article/59253af4feade60374ac1d4f

Overwatch Contenders

Introducing Overwatch Contenders - the development league for aspiring Overwatch League professionals, kicking off in summer 2017 in North America and Europe. Season Zero of Overwatch Contenders will be an open signup, online-only tournament with a USD $50,000 prize pool per region.

solid spear
#

Ty Polo bb

supple nymph
#

no NRG yet FeelsTiltedMan

limber pine
#

are they even a full team

forest raven
#

Nope

limber pine
#

well, they have until 11:59 June 2nd to find the rest

pure kettle
#

lol kinda funny that blizzard didnt expect such a response

#

well they probably did thats why the schedule adjusted so quickly

#

idk XD

rapid oxide
#

Why the harb post got deleted?

#

In r/cow

ripe marlin
#

lol jokes on them while they prep for ow league we will get miles ahead in practice for our splatoon team

pine star
#

Splatoon Ele Giggle

pliant ivy
#

@rapid oxide r/cow is acronym of?

pine star
#

/r/Competitiveoverwatch

pliant ivy
#

cant find the reddit

#

aaahh

balmy wolf
#

Don't disrespect Splatoon >_>

pine star
#

Don't tell me what to do reeeeeee

ripe marlin
#

well he's not being invited to the splatoon tryouts

pine star
#

Oh noey

ripe marlin
#

lol

toxic yacht
#

Wow, another person who believes in splatoon

#

Me and my Splatoon 2 team

#

Will get picked up by FaZe

solid spear
#

Sojum pls

limber pine
#

I believe that we will win

ripe marlin
#

Faze Splatoon

pine star
blazing parrot
#

why not be picked up by misfits @toxic yacht tviqPrivet

clever wagon
#

OW borderless windowed works o wow o3o

wary falcon
#

Touko
So are any of you joining OWC?

#

i will try

#

we need good tracer 4200+

#

already got 4500+ hog, winston and healer

supple nymph
#

harb stream or riot

limber pine
#

harbleu rickrolling all of us

supple nymph
limber pine
#

when's the livestream?

#

1h 20min?

supple nymph
#

the blizzard thing yes

iron cedar
#

link?

supple nymph
limber pine
#

should be fun

iron cedar
#

@limber pine Someone is promoting bugs

balmy wolf
#

@limber pine quick question: does the mods of r/compow scare of sudden influx of new users? Hence why r/OW still haven't had any sidebar link to r/compow

limber pine
#

there hasn't really been a large influx of new users

#

just a consistent increase

balmy wolf
#

but even then

#

why wouldn't r/ow just put r/compow link to the sidebar then?

#

considering you mod both sub

#

there's gotta be something that scare you folks off of that

clever wagon
#

I was for the idea at first

supple nymph
#

fucking harb

limber pine
#

CompOW is on the sidebar with all the other related subs

#

Harb still not up?

balmy wolf
#

nope

#

nobody pressed the "related subreddit" thing though

limber pine
#

but it's not really about clickthrough. It's visibility

rapid oxide
#

And its not visible :)

limber pine
#

and again, we're off topic here

#

@balmy wolf If you'd like to talk Reddit sematics to me, I'm more than happy to discuss them off this channel. Otherwise, let's stay on topic.

vestal mortar
#

I love esports

balmy wolf
#

Im off to nap now so I doubt I can lol

toxic yacht
#

eSports is great

balmy wolf
#

And 89k is barely 10 percent of r/OW

vestal mortar
#

Reign pls

#

πŸ‘back πŸ‘onπŸ‘topicπŸ‘

toxic yacht
#

eSports is great

balmy wolf
#

:worstherointhegame:

#

:why:

vestal mortar
#

I am happy to announce that I'll be able to watch APEX on Friday

toxic yacht
#

same here, I can actually watch it with sound

vestal mortar
#

Aww man we're gonna have the best Friday ever

toxic yacht
#

it's the most important game of the groups anyway

vestal mortar
#

Exactly

supple nymph
#

COUNTDOWN

digital pond
#

I freaking click on compOW thinking it was esport

#

Someone moved it up ~_~

limber pine
#

feelsbad

toxic yacht
#

TwoEasy is streaming with 9 views guys

digital pond
#

Sorry watching Zachareeeee

#

The one making anime real in esport

toxic yacht
#

wot

digital pond
#

NRG's new DPS. Huge weeb.

toxic yacht
#

*RNG

digital pond
#

Yeh that team

#

Haven't seen much of either anyway v0v

#

His Cree is pretty lit and his Genji is decent mainly.

supple nymph
#

LOOK ITS TRACER

vestal mortar
#

SOE pogchimp

supple nymph
#

SOE

solid spear
#

SOE iddPog

digital pond
#

SOE??!?!?!

toxic yacht
#

@rapid oxide

#

@pine star

digital pond
#

As adorable as ever emong10

toxic yacht
#

S O E
O
E

vestal mortar
#

Soejum πŸ‘€

deep abyss
#

Stylosa is going to milk this situation as much as possible

digital pond
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I would marry her SO hard.

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\0.0/

toxic yacht
supple nymph
deep abyss
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good one

pine star
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My Soe senses are tingling

solid spear
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I respect Soe greatly

digital pond
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Soe could kick a puppy and still look adorable.

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I would still call the police though.

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I really love her arm tattoo though

vestal mortar
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same

supple nymph
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same

digital pond
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She has like full picture on her twitter

toxic yacht
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I love her arm

digital pond
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It's really awesome. Been meaning to get one for forever

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I love how the players aren't allowed to have names. Just heroes names.

supple nymph
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....

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why dont they have names ?

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did they say

toxic yacht
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because the players will swap

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that's the whole point of this game

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when Soe feels like everyone stands up and swaps

vestal mortar
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cheaty winston

toxic yacht
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NA WInston

vestal mortar
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Take that Winston!

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Called out by Soe

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This feels like the West trying to do their version of APEX karaoke

digital pond
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Musical chairs \0.0/

pine star
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I want to see it ;_;

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Kill me

vestal mortar
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Nu

solid spear
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I'll do it

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One less weeb

deep abyss
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how long will this last ?

digital pond
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There's more stuff planned but they're just getting peeps on the stream mainly.

clever wagon
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"New lands" "Team work" New heroes"

But still no one on the payload widowlol

deep abyss
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ResidentSleeper

vestal mortar
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World cup memories :' )