Pharmercy
#esports-discussion
pine star
I know right
jfc this fights lmao
CLG needs to fucking disengage
They're getting absolutely nothing
smh
pine star
Rez 
pine star
Sinatraa building gravitons like they're EMPs 
solid spear
DAD
pine star
Zen sustaining three tanks and a DPS that's not soldier 
supple nymph
stick to the face
pine star
KRESNIK LMFAO
tough agate
tfw chat spams c9 when getting on the point would've lost us that round 
feral solar
typical twitch chat dw
clever wagon
Twitch chat? What's that?
I know of BRONZE DUMB FUCKS CHAT but I've never heard of Twitch chat
supple nymph
rez useless again
wat are they doing
trickle time
GO SOLDIER DAFRAN
DELETED
agilities blew dafrans head up 😦
pine star
Did ZP just came?
digital pond
Control center is made for Genji
supple nymph
MLG SLEEPS
digital pond
Jesus
supple nymph
why is there a random chair
balmy wolf
Immortal is snorting coke again
feral solar
amazing slideshow
digital pond
NA Production OP
That's a whole 5 FPS
We're spoiled
Human eye can onyl see 2.5 fps
supple nymph
👀
pine star
Anem smh
supple nymph
DAFRAN CARRY
pine star
Kobe 
digital pond
That was beautiful
Aythen is never visiting Danemark ever. Dafran made sure of it.
Dafran cosplaying sin
Sin cosplaying Dafran
digital pond
Classic Dafran
supple nymph
that teamwork
so good
LOL YES
DAFRAN LOL
ANTI-PHARMERCY TRACER
no card for dafran 😦
balmy wolf
time for Immortals to overhaul their team tbh
this team ever since OCS and been dissappointment
with only flashes of brilliance
civic cloak
he's memeing
rapid oxide
pine star
Chips lol
supple nymph
rapid oxide
toxic yacht
they did
rapid oxide
toxic yacht
they, ex-cyclone and movistar all deserved it
it's why I was so salty when I thought that only 2 would get in
rapid oxide
same honestly
toxic yacht
the fact that eU dropped out of the qualifiers is pretty much a confirmation of them being invited
rapid oxide
Honestly
1 spot is missing
and...
nvm
i was going to say they dont allow RU and NA
but C9 have KR
so that doesnt make sense
i guess the "NO NA" apply only at qual
balmy wolf
I remember hearing somewhere that eU just forget to sign in or confirm or whatever it is
maybe flames discord
pine star
I thought it was just trolling...
toxic yacht
yee, qualifiers were EU exclusive
when it comes to invites they invite whoever the fuck they want
rapid oxide
We welcome meme Reddit to the Overwatch TaKeOver 2 powered by Predator!
supple nymph
TACTICAL PAUSE apparently 2 members of meme reddit are have having difficulties with their mics
rapid oxide
"Is Polo the Overwatch Faker?"
solid spear
"How good is meme reddit on LAN?"
balmy wolf
meme Reddit*
supple nymph
do you still think meme reddit can't beat nrg?
balmy wolf
I never thought that lol
balmy wolf
They are performing mediocre at the top of NA
We dominated a 3-3.9k tourney
Massive difference
solid spear
Are you telling me there's a difference between masters and the highest level of NA competition?
Stahp
Oh yeah tournament should be back on in a couple hours
rapid oxide
Bet my money meme Reddit would win against NRG
rapid oxide
eUnited
balmy wolf
they are definitely going into TakeOver 2 at this rate
I'd prefer a pure NA team (unless we counts Rogue as NA then 😴)
inb4 yikes gets an invite and gets hidan to sub
then again SK is Brazillian and I don't think anyone mind calling them NA
In the Takeover teams, Rogue is counted as NA
So 1 more NA invite
rapid oxide
Pls get Selfless
toxic yacht
the 3-3 was not true
they'll send invites anyhow
it's very possible that c9 and Rogue are the only NA teams
rapid oxide
IMT said no afaik
toxic yacht
I'm still pretty confident in the fact that it's eUnited
toxic yacht
yes
literally in the over.gg article
TakeOver guys corrected them
it's one of the first things you see when you read it, found it out when I wanted to verify the 3-3 information
they never stated that it's false, just that they never mentioned it, which heavily implies that they aren't planning on doing it/want more flexibility if NA teams don't wanna
rapid oxide
What about LK?
balmy wolf
ALicus had said that they will go if invited
but they haven't
so 😴
if they even go though
they are not going to have their Korean boys though
pine star
lol
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf DM an admin and have that put in #tournaments
well
talking about NA
there's still some CyberPower OW tournament
with Summer Invite
and Final Series
so we'll have to wait to see
I doubt it will be a LAN at the end though
I just want an OW Open 😢
supple nymph
balmy wolf
that tourny is still the best Western LAN
toxic yacht
they got higher
pine star
supple nymph
60 points?
supple nymph
no that is with NA filter
just a sec
i doubt those korean teams are worse though
toxic yacht
Flash Lux and AF Red are much better, lul
pine star
lul
toxic yacht
they just happened to get rekt by Challenger teams
toxic yacht
and challenger teams that make it to apex usually turn out to be decent at worst and amazing at best
balmy wolf
so it is not particularly accurate
supple nymph
didnt they do a thing where they explained they did manual adjustments?
or am i imagining
solid spear
We dont really have any accurate rating system
supple nymph
i think it's curated
solid spear
Just have to use common sense, we watch games
toxic yacht
manual adjustments would be a nightmare for this many teams
pine star
Yeah
toxic yacht
we'd probably have a more accurate system if those teams would actually play each other
but I doubt that we'll ever see a t2 KR team like FL play vs NRG
or vs competition that isn't korean except you get into apex and get beatedn by fnatic
balmy wolf
I remember correctly APAC Premier 2017 actually had NRG invited
since they did went far in the play off of the 2016 edition
but at this point APAC should just revoke the invite and give it to another team
what a shamble NRG is right now
Over.gg would literally have to pay people to sit and watch matches all day
supple nymph
that is a good point...
balmy wolf
To have accurate manual rankings
supple nymph
nrg just doesnt make sense
their team doesnt add up to horrible losses
but they just throw every game
toxic yacht
they only invited NRG because SEA apparently loves gull, and now that he's gone I doubt that they'll bring that many extra views
balmy wolf
NRG will just throw money into the problem
toxic yacht
but who knows, maybe he'll be playing again by then
no, they don't throw, they're just bad
balmy wolf
meanwhile, they also just changed senior management for the 3rd time now
toxic yacht
having strong players != a strong team
balmy wolf
and of course, now they are having Derrick "I run TSM OW into the ground" Truong as GM
so they throw money into the dumpster fire and the fire just got bigger
Now here to wait for IDDQD exploded like he did in Fnatic
and the cycle will begins anew 🍿
solid spear
They dont even have many strong players
Its not even a wow everyone is so good its just chemistry they legit have players who blow
balmy wolf
NRG does have strong players but the problem is that they are horribly put together
IDDQD is a strong hitscan
but you also have Harbleu "let me go on my flanking expedition and feed"
which is not good in this meta where everyone is hyper mobile
of course earlier you have Ajax "I don't remember how to drop the beat"
it is just a mess
solid spear
People exaggerate Harb flanks so much lol
balmy wolf
maybe, but in NRG he haven't stop doing it
digital pond
I mean some people do it off casters, like when flame said Grego dropped the beat in a 3v6 and he had to go on Reddit to correct it.
solid spear
Like how often does Harb even flank during a game, and even when he does he even says that it's a set play not him wandering for no reason
toxic yacht
People just parrot what casters say, lul
Like the whole TwoEasy inconsistency thing
The inconsistency is more related to ping than actually being inconsistent
solid spear
Its always going to be something he does occasionally but just cuz Flame or zp or anyone in between says he feeds all day thats fact I guess
balmy wolf
I remember at least in NRG there's this weird defense the NRG set up
on King's Row
where for some inexplicable reasons
he and IDDQD hanging on together on one of the ledges near the clock
instead with the team
and it never turned out well
toxic yacht
supple nymph
...context?
solid spear
None needed
toxic yacht
APAC introductions
supple nymph
rapid oxide
@toxic yacht from that intro to this one https://youtu.be/eoHnpXwDkKE
balmy wolf
@supple nymph just got food lol
last lantern
what is the discord for around the watch?
supple nymph
link in tweet
last lantern
got it ty
toxic yacht
at least they kept it short and sweet as opposed to the drawn out NRG and friends shit
it was funny during the stream and for the next few days, but then it just god old and annoying
balmy wolf
Selfless beating YIKES like a mule lol
waxen root
11:23 Twitch Prime 6r4nt: I get more frames than this on console gunPika
supple nymph
toxic yacht
lol
so, is YIKES getting carried by Space this time?
First Slikthread and now Space
masters at getting boosted
balmy wolf
Space is their regular roster player
toxic yacht
wtf is this stream lmao
balmy wolf
Comcast dying lol
toxic yacht
oh yee, he is
supple nymph
wouldnt all the casters be setup to stream? just switch to someone else?
toxic yacht
I'm getting the impression that he joined recently, didn't he?
used to be on YGGP
not all casters are good spectators
also, swapping a stream like this would probably take some time, maybe they can do it once the match is done
supple nymph
ah
balmy wolf
throwing indeed
balmy wolf
Selfless
losing a 5 mins advantage
this is even worst throwing
than having 2-0 lead vs Rogue
toxic yacht
I'm not sure if this is selfless throwing, Yikes playing very well or both
velvet scarab
stream ded
supple nymph
WHAT HAPPENING
toxic yacht
the overlay
digital pond
Eaten lel
toxic yacht
wtf is even going on
toxic yacht
mfw Rogue is finally gone but Selfless is losing vs themselves
digital pond
As much as I dislike XQC, the team is looking pretty solid.
toxic yacht
Selfless 
supple nymph
.
digital pond
The moment they got full held on KR they were already mid level of tilt.
toxic yacht
well, a good pharmercy has always been their biggest weakness
digital pond
Cause that's THEIR map usually.
toxic yacht
well, yikes' biggest thing has been their pharmercy
digital pond
Yikes has been using it for forever but Danteh is also putting work
And pressure
It's not like they are losing ground battles
small basin
oh is there a game
digital pond
Ya
small basin
who where
digital pond
Selfless v Yikes
small basin
oh
digital pond
small basin
cool sefless losing
toxic yacht
I want Dafran to go pharah and 1v2 the pharmercy again
digital pond
Rather they lose to another team but eh
toxic yacht
but it won't work this time 
digital pond
Least the teams are of similar skill I guess.
Although that means nothing in the grand scheme of things
small basin
Zarya in 2017
digital pond
Looks like it 😒
small basin
idk she comes off as a liability in this current meta
digital pond
Pretty depressing lol
small basin
but thats just me
digital pond
She gets play a lot on University and King's Row.
And last point dorado/numbani
Cause people swap off winston into Rein
toxic yacht
WOT IS DIS
digital pond
Danteh's Tracer is nutty
small basin
dat audio desync
toxic yacht
...zza?
small basin
right these are lowly american teams
cinder zealot
comcast copypasta LOL
toxic yacht
lmao
small basin
absolutely disgusting
velvet scarab
ofc
balmy wolf
D A F R A N
velvet scarab
its dafran
toxic yacht
D A F R A G
digital pond
Well Village sucks a bit for pharah hopefully they keep it up on this map
small basin
and he did shit
toxic yacht
man, mercy is such cancer
small basin
tri tank deserves to die
balmy wolf
pharmercy deserves to die
digital pond
^
small basin
rather pharmercy than reinhardt ever
digital pond
Oh you mean Defense MAtrix?
velvet scarab
that beat was so bad
digital pond
small basin
the difference being
nothings more fun than 2 reinhardts holding m2 really hard in a choke while everyone tickles
toxic yacht
someone delete mercy
digital pond
Yeh thank god although it doesn't really stop dva on each team
toxic yacht
seriously
digital pond
I mean Korea does it too quite a bit
Dva is stable and considered too good to not use there too
Cause MAtrix pretty much eats everything
small basin
yaaay
toxic yacht
FUCK
small basin
down with the tri tanks
supple nymph
REEEE
toxic yacht
digital pond
Rip v0v
I mean only team that don't try Tank play pharahmercy
NEither is fun to watch in the end
small basin
I'd still rather pharmercy than tri tank
digital pond
I would rather neither
I don't wanna choice the lesser of two shit smelling evils
Oh well Lower Bracket is home of Selfless a lot of time
small basin
I dont really struggle with pharmercy in comp so I guess I just dont care about that
digital pond
They'll probably be back anyway
toxic yacht
we all know that they'll be in the finals again
digital pond
Well comp and pro team game not really the same situation
small basin
then I suppose its not really cancer then
digital pond
There's always people doing retarded things on both side in comp
Pro games have more plans and plays and people who understand win condition
Pharah MErcy is also great against selfless' comp
Comps are mainly rock paper scissor really.
balmy wolf
report Selfless for throwing
digital pond
Selfless comp counters Rogues. Pharah MErcy counters Selfless. Rogue counters the rest v0v
small basin
sure thats why they're in the losers bracket
toxic yacht
if SINATRAA👽and my girl👧😍 both drowning 😱 👋 and I can only save one😤😬Catch me at the enemy spawn door🚪🔴 with my boy on tracer 🌈🕰
digital pond
Hard part for him though is that ZZA is REALLY good at staying in drop off range from hitscans
Making him ridiculous to actually kill
toxic yacht
having a pocket noskill cancer mercy also helps
balmy wolf
this OMM have been a throw fest
IMT using Zen/Lucio first point defense on KR
Tempo Storm couldn't cap the first point Gilbraltar because TL was playing out of their goddamn mind after a failed push
Selfless threw away 5 mins of advantage and tilted themselves into the lower bracket
balmy wolf
Team Liquid looking good so far
but here's hoping they don't pull a Liquid
Yeah, hopefully they dont pull a full hold
toxic yacht
and nothign of value was lost
supple nymph
i started a copy pasta 😄
toxic yacht
jeez, these attacks
balmy wolf
Team Liquid liquified again 
digital pond
Damn liquid
balmy wolf
WAIT WHAT
final river
wow so many ults traded
balmy wolf
Selfless thrown
5 mins advantage on King's Row
and blew it
and they tilted into oblivion and lost 1-3 in Nepal
wintry matrix
i suppose there was also their boosting service
balmy wolf
they are doing well with no boosting service so far
supple nymph
LOL THE MERCY CHASE
wintry matrix
that was a wondeful shitshow
digital pond
Rofl
His first tweet after the plane one was about Na net being so slow rofl
Poor dude
digital pond
Well he wanted a foreign team for money to begin with @jovial eagle
jovial eagle
what does that mean
digital pond
C9 is probs one of his best choice for money and already has Korean imports
Well he left runaway cause he needed to make more money to help his family.
So he decided he needed to join a western team as they pay more.
jovial eagle
ah gotcha
digital pond
In the realm of surviving NA team C9 probably pays some fo the best
supple nymph
pine star
digital pond
Wearing that headset like a fashion statement.
Hiding his hairline that's gradualy fading.
pine star
lul
digital pond
Ty Jake
pine star
Is this the finals?
jovial eagle
gale is women hater?
pine star
E A T E N
supple nymph
.....
digital pond
@jovial eagle Someone posted an old Screenshot of last month on his discord where he said women can't carry and be pro gamers and it blew up.
jovial eagle
oh
i mean
i don't think he's wrong?
is he talking about overwatch or in general
digital pond
There's a good amount of women who are in the top 500. And don't booby stream.
He was speaking generally at first.
pine star
Super
digital pond
And used OW as an example
And said it was cientifically proven that men can play better or some junk.
delicate sparrow
isn't he like 15
digital pond
Ya
jovial eagle
i don't think there's a lack of female competitors in games
but can you imagine the toxicity if there were to be a female league?
delicate sparrow
galeadelade #1 ana worldwide
digital pond
I mean there's more guys that play games generally so it's bound to be more girls.
delicate sparrow
/s
jovial eagle
i know
jovial eagle
mm hmm
pine star
Just look at the girl in Monte's team in League
digital pond
Geguri had to fight hell to get on a team.
jovial eagle
her sensitivty though
pine star
Yeah true
pine star
But still doesn't excuses the shitty community lol
digital pond
That's why his sub sound has the chick asking when he turns 18
He has like a harem in his discord basically
delicate sparrow
idk what the deal is with competitive gamers and genuinely believing that women are scientifically worse at (insert random bullshit) thing
digital pond
There's ladies fawning over him and asking when he's 18
digital pond
I think with the league there might be but
That would ruin a lot of Korean teams
Whoru is 15
Super is 17
jovial eagle
make a U 18 league
digital pond
And Haksal is 16-17
jovial eagle
U16
pine star
Agilities is like 16 or 17 too
jovial eagle
and so on
delicate sparrow
yeah
safe condor
Honestly I got a good feeling about next match the odds seems to be in there favor
digital pond
Whose favor?
jovial eagle
there
digital pond
pine star
There op
safe condor
excatly
safe condor
oh yea was talking about Team Dignitas btw
digital pond
Lmao
pine star
pine star
gg
safe condor
To bad you can't bring food in escorts tournaments I be throwing rotten tomatoes at who ever loses lol
esports*
pine star
pine star
safe condor
yea
jovial eagle
how old is jake
wintry matrix
actually from some interviews he had he seems pretty mature for his aged, i don't think he has more than 19
he isn't obligated to stay in the lobby anyway
jovial eagle
i remember something on his stream where he was talking about queue sniping a trio alone
he owned but it was petty arrogance to me
solid spear
Im pretty sure Jake is in his early 20s sincr hes finishing up his degrer
And why are we saying hes immature cuz he left lobby?
jovial eagle
i don't know about that incident
jovial eagle
pharmercy scares me
wintry matrix
is dafran good at pharah?
digital pond
He had a decent one for a bit.
He 1v2'ed as Solo pharah against jake's pharamercy once
But it was some weeks ago
wintry matrix
dunno if dafran is carrying hard or people just choose to don't deal with him
clever vale
IF anyone is interested i will be hosting a 1.5 hour coaching session in the coaching 1 room, only come if you are serious (anyone jokers will be muted). Sr 2000=3500 preferred.
blazing parrot
👀
blazing parrot
c o a c h i n g 
solid spear
I'll come back if they fix the stream this is unwatchable
marble urchin
Anyone looking for an esports org
supple nymph
@marble urchin ask @balmy wolf
ripe marlin
@marble urchin ME
supple nymph
c9
ripe marlin
c9
solid spear
why tf is Dafran on Tracer and Sinatraa 76
solid spear
Final OMM 25k viewers to 6k cuz of laggy stream what a shame
wintry matrix
true to the spirit of the thing to the end
supple nymph
solid spear
:/
final river
tomorrow?
ripe marlin
lol
balmy wolf
Sinatraa being an ass again
final river
what bs is this?
balmy wolf
supple nymph
rip
digital pond
Ty no tournament realm blizz
wintry matrix
would a tournament realm make any difference if stream's connection is crap?
balmy wolf
OMM ends on a whimper
can't say it is inappropriate
wintry matrix
well, not really related to the OMM, but i do agree that bliss not allowing any lans is at least very weird
balmy wolf
they are making space for the WC LAN Qualifier. There's 4 of them
wintry matrix
i guess it's because NA/EU lans don't get as much as views as the asian ones?
balmy wolf
There will be something for NA/EU to do up until July though
digital pond
I wouldn't say so.
balmy wolf
according to Noukky
digital pond
Asia usually get tournament realms cause companies basically have to give developer rights to Korea and China
balmy wolf
and no, the OCE LAN doesn't get that much twitch viewers
digital pond
Otherwise games can't be publicized
wintry matrix
yeah, this WC thing makes sense
digital pond
Korea gets it cause OGN gets rights. China cause Tencent has rights gaming wise in pretty much all of china.
Also allows china to get rid of skulls and such
Which aren't allowed in games
etc etc
solid spear
Na and EU Lans got plenty of views when they existed
civic marsh
what does china have instead of skulls?
digital pond
No idea but in most games they remove it
It apparently falls under too graphic
Some maps in GW2 had to have some redesign done by tencent
civic marsh
i wonder what their elim symbol is. interesting
digital pond
To remove rock made lava skulls
The crit symbol got made yellow
Cause red is too close to blood lol
civic marsh
lol
balmy wolf
OW Premier Series is getting shill on Chinese Battle.net
so at this point
it is certain that Blizzard won't shill anything
supple nymph
balmy wolf
that is not under their control
civic marsh
mfw they shill shitty streamers 😦
balmy wolf
in any case
Blizzard will only shill the LAN and events that are under their control
so at this point the removal of the online tournament is deliberate
digital pond
"Next OMM "
blazing parrot
wintry matrix
prob conflicting schedules with players and/or casters
supple nymph
weird that they would not think of that and just blurt out tomorrow first
digital pond
PRetty much, scrim schedule etc etc
They could just record the VODS post them later.
Or let flame stream it or anyone else there
Who has a streaming PC.
supple nymph
they would have to setup overlays too probably
but i would expect they all have experience with that
and could do it fast
digital pond
I guess, then just record it and post the vods
supple nymph
ah whatever it's stupid
digital pond
The issue I think isn't even it being postponed bu them choosing the date without talking to team
Then telling players to talk to managers while Yikes has none.
Was very
supple nymph
rofl good point
toxic yacht
man, after a showing like this no one is going to watch the next OMM, amiright?
but well, at least this OMM had everything
slasher getting high on stream, slasher disconnecting, slasher having bad mic, big upsets, chokes, throws, stream problems, uber, zp, flame
no manbun though
clever wagon
Dark days
rapid oxide
solid spear
Im gonna miss these stupid tournaments ;_;
literally the tournaments that got me into the scene last April
balmy wolf
There's still CyberPowerPC stuff, and of course Noukky's stuff, which promised to get people in NA and EU through July at least
balmy wolf
blizzard can always revive it
it is just for now
it is going to be inactive
gotta stop thinking less in term of "it is going away permanently"
to "it is not going to be play for a while"
Blizzard probably will revive it under a different name though
jovial eagle
overwatch league better be good
balmy wolf
at the start, it wont
rapid oxide
in a bunch of years, it could
balmy wolf
of course, the keyword here is could
I suspect that the upcoming World Cup will be a good litmus test
June 2nd will be when we know the roster
let's see how it goes
toxic yacht
the WC is really more important than people think
it's basically a casual's gateway into eSports
toxic yacht
it's also how the whole korean domination meme started
balmy wolf
it needs to be shill nonstop though
like Twitter needs to be shill, battle.net needs to be shill, etc etc
WC peaked at 150K iirc
not bad
toxic yacht
Blizzard seems pretty serious this year
they're going to shill the living shit out of it, hopefully
balmy wolf
last year's WC didnt get shill that much
so it is kind of amazing that it got that much viewership
rapid oxide
230
toxic yacht
probably because a lot of people were watching blizzcon + word of mouth during it
balmy wolf
and the streamers
gotta watch Poke and that Brazil teams completely embarassed themselves
toxic yacht
the fact that blizzard is having multiple LAN stages around the world etc heavily implies thaat they're gonna be serious af
oh god, poke
surefour on zarya so that he can play dps
and the 50 S1 SR guy on Brazil
rapid oxide
cantus is canada?
toxic yacht
NZ
balmy wolf
Poke iirc at one point in flamecord was like "oh I did good things too, just that the commentators never caught it"
basically the same thing every delusional plat players ever said about themselves
delicate sparrow
I pretty much started watching esports bc of world cup
I saw a few things before that but was never super into it
toxic yacht
pretty sure that gankyou also got into it because of that, although I may be wrong
clever wagon
Naw
I just randomly decided to watch what was running in January
I barely watched WC at all
And in January it happened to be... I think AMM? Just a short while after NGE ended
balmy wolf
NA OW growth had been weird
it is completely underground
outside of a few tournament that is actively shilled by Blizzard
which can only counts on one hand
it is their way or the high way
lolfuck
the word might be small, but it is basically Kephrii asked Flame if he can get a foot to the OW USA team if possible
feral solar
i dont watch him so idk but is he good at anything else but widow?
deep abyss
One tricks shouldnt compete, IMO
rapid oxide
I love the hypocrisy of "Everyone want OWL to succeed, me included" and talk shit about it and assuming it will fail
feral solar
i think people just have very low expectation cause we dont know much about it yet
as more stuff comes out people will have something to be excited about
delicate sparrow
I wonder if kephrii actually thinks he's good enough to compete at WC, or if he just considers it a stream booster
toxic yacht
I'm pretty sure that he's a 100% confident in his skillz
solid spear
haha?
balmy wolf
🤔
toxic yacht
vestal mortar
Ryujehong 😍
balmy wolf
the meme about Gale is just lol now
especially now that people are trying to sending angry emails to TSM
which is the 21st century equivalent of mob justice
vestal mortar
What a pro
pine star
Half Koreans are called Hoon
balmy wolf
to quote Noukky
xQC seems to take every inconvinience as attack on his team
remember the episode where he and Rise Nation players tried to throw a shitfit because the org was forcing West Coast server because they were playing against BK Stars?
yeah.
toxic yacht
Well, they and Rise went all baby because they didn't like the bk star coach being there. The thing is, he's a well known korean caster
He wouldn't put his reputation on the line because of some Rivalcade weekly
balmy wolf
and of course the server business as well
so yeah, YIKES and xQC are just a bunch of BabyRager
toxic yacht
and they have no backup plan
lol
really smaht
it's totally not like comcast are known for being unreliable nazis and one of the worst ISPs around
let's totally not have a backup plan in case something like this happens
👍
why didn't they just play it offline and upload the VODs?
hek, even the teams disagreed and wanted to play then
balmy wolf
not nearly as hype
rapid oxide
less exposure for sponsors
limber pine
thursday is what gosu and liquipedia says
forest raven
Whelp
pine star
What a farewell for the OMM
solid spear
A 1 week long OMM what a farewell indeed
pure kettle
way it works for me is you get comcast for speed and shit reliability
and att for reliability and piss all for speed
this was the first tournament I've watched, and I def got a dose of EVERYTHING lol
forest raven
Well, welcome to OW esports
limber pine
oh yeah, i could have sworn it said 3 days
rapid oxide
Murican ISP 
pure kettle
lol
toxic yacht
Oh hey, welcome to OW eSports! 
I hope that you enjoyed the Melee
although we were missing Rogue, which succ
supple nymph
rogue is french anyway
rapid oxide
You guys wanted OMM right? Now you have it
vestal mortar
😢
forest raven
APEX has matches every Tuesday and Friday at 7PM KST, the Memorial Day Rivalcade Rumble is happening from the 26th - 28th May, and the TakeOver2 LAN is taking place from the 1st - 4th June. @pure kettle
vestal mortar
Oh noey, I hope I'll be able to watch
forest raven
They can technically get out of groups by losing
rapid oxide
Forgot already
rapid oxide
:ok_hand:
forest raven
If they 3-2 LH they need AOD to beat KDP
pure kettle
awesome thanks @forest raven
forest raven
Np, you can check pins and the channel descriptions for links and info
toxic yacht
I'm having a deja vu with Rogue
shit
I really don't want it to end like last time
it's not even like Misfits got rekt, they put up a really good fight and only lost due to a few small misplays
hek
wintry matrix
Well, one way or the other, there will be good memes (especially if Rogue loses)
toxic yacht
the meme game has reached a new level compared to how it was back then
wintry matrix
tbh even if Rogue or NV wins APEX, i don't think that alone will make much to stop the supposed korean domination if it happens
toxic yacht
I'm not sure if Rogue are the ones who triggered everyone's inner memer
I still don't buy the korean domination thing, sample size is too small + EU is stronger NA and we haven't seen them go up against korens for a long time
I'd love a major where the best teams from all around the world get invited, but I doubt that we're gonna see that anytime soon
reee
pine star
That'd be dope
rapid oxide
I want Rogue and KDP to go playoff
wintry matrix
i'm no korean expert or fellationist, but to me at first glance, their mentality and work ethic (on avg) is 100x greater then the na NA/EU (on avg)
yes, they have the advantage of way more lans, but still
toxic yacht
I personally believe that korean domination is inevitable if the west doesn't step it the fuck up now
atm the west flat out has an advantage with its FPS pool
supple nymph
if koreans are practicing 18 hours a day and everyone else 8-10
wintry matrix
and that major would be lit, probably will be better than this WC bc of people like tviq and France
supple nymph
well it adds up right
toxic yacht
it also shows in that western DPS are better on average
supple nymph
not saying everyone else should practice that much
wintry matrix
yeah, nothing is set on stone yet
pine star
Arguable
wintry matrix
also consistency i guess? i don't remember the koreans switching constantly except for some exchanges with sister teams
rapid oxide
Yeah
wintry matrix
(both in performance in roster stability)
rapid oxide
West are either beast or fucking trash 0 to 100 nibba real quick
Koteans are consistent
Except for Esca 
Early game is trash, late game is a beast
fierce geode
esca is also shotcalling
so i mean if you can do better at both at the same time why aren't you on the best team in korea?
rapid oxide
Exactly where i said im better than Esca?
toxic yacht
are you sure that esca shotcalls? iirc jehong doesn't sit behind because he's used to looking at his teammate's screens from the side instead of sitting behind them
rapid oxide
Also... Like if esca is the only one that shotcall and play at the same time...
balmy wolf
I'm not quite sure if Esca is shotcalling
toxic yacht
pretty sure that jehong calls
balmy wolf
for the most part though, Rogue is in the same rough spot at Misfits last year
and yeah, LH is basically a "protect the Jehong" team
toxic yacht
Not OW related, but video of Rapha analyzing his game vs Cooller if you haven't seen it yet for some reason. Gives a pretty interesting insight into his thought processes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58
balmy wolf
since he provide the lifeline for them
limber pine
👀
toxic yacht
well, rapha is a shotcaller and an OW pro
so I felt that it was tangentally related
there's also a pretty good video of a dude analyzing Seagull's general playstyle by looking at his TF2 shit and explaining that he's actually really fucking smart, but I dunno if that'd be too much
balmy wolf
Eh
at this point I think we don't need more reaffimation of how smart Seagull is
considering he jumped out of the nose diving plane that is NRG so lol
toxic yacht
lmao
balmy wolf
back to the South Korea question
I remember one of their coaches saying that he was impressed with Misfits' attitude and devotion to the game
which he noted was something Western teams lacked
At this point all of the T1 teams in the West usually are very good mechanically or have very good infrastucture helpinig them
like nV, or Rogue
toxic yacht
pretty much all Medium posts by Reinforce detailing their APEX S2 adventures also heavily... reinforce that statement
balmy wolf
right now in the NA scene
you have IMT who have coaching but can't 8 hours per days before people still have school
YIKES who basically an amateur team with no coaching or infrastructure
because all of them are snakes.
LG Evil is probably the closest in term of structure but they lacked a coach
rapid oxide
Cant wait for Cooller, Dahang, Rapha leaving OW for QC
balmy wolf
gotta wait for QC to get big first
rapid oxide
it wont imo
balmy wolf
we'll see
rapid oxide
1v1 is boring for me