then it's okay
#esports-discussion
onyx shore
blazing parrot
anyone else miss enigma
onyx shore
is there any potential advantage
rapid oxide
some nrg better if they didnt quit tf2 lol
onyx shore
i wonder if natus vincere is gonna have overwatch division
brave spoke
i only watch apex right now and i hate the schedule they do
half garnet
brave spoke
its like 4 matches a week
half garnet
balmy wolf
Skipjack is incredible underrated as a main tank though
rapid oxide
he's not tbh
balmy wolf
He is one of the best EU tank
rapid oxide
Kungarna has dropped and has been replaced by enVision, they will take their seeding slot as well.
vestal mortar
Oh noey ๐ข
wintry matrix
don't worry, this gives them more time to improve, and in the next tourn- oh no
wintry matrix
when the WC happens, they should put a Rogue sticker on the shirt
and is that translation accurate?
rapid oxide
Kaiser is able to en/kr
wintry matrix
i know, is just it seems phrased weirdly
or maybe he the "no happy" is just vague anyway
fierce geode
i think he means that he still likes runaway
like there's no love lost between them
toxic yacht
well the thing is, I don't think that he actually wanted to leave runaway
he did it because an NA team would have more solid funding than the orgless team that is runaway
and his family needed money and stuff
so he decided to go with the safer option
he probably really didn't want to depart
solid spear
:<
rapid oxide
Twitter
limber pine
he's losing it man
wintry matrix
who isnt? ๐ญ
limber pine
limber pine
sheesh
wintry matrix
as i said before, there's no happy endings in ow esport
velvet scarab
hahahahaha
limber pine
i killed it
i think there's enough actually news on the front page.
Its relevance is a stretch
vestal mortar
Oh noey :C
supple nymph
there's lots of cow punching bags already
doesnt matter where in the cow community you go there are nrg memes
wintry matrix
it would be the most tragic story ever if he beause of money left Runaway to join NRG or TSM
supple nymph
kinda weird to think the best players in KR get paid less than worse players on western teams
i dont know what this means but $$$?
limber pine
The NRG Amazons
limber pine
potato potato
wintry matrix
tbh Amazonian is a pretty cool name
pure kettle
๐ฌ
wintry matrix
also coL
solid spear
ah yes McCree thats how you know thats an old ass video
toxic yacht
also, reaper
solid spear
well hes not important
balmy wolf
wait what?
solid spear
Tviq fanboy smh
toxic yacht
but atlantic showdown was hands down the best
balmy wolf
ELEAGUE is still the best produced NA LAN. And I will fight you for it.
supple nymph
"Please give it up for the first and last Overwatch World Cup gold medalists- South Korea!"
toxic yacht
I mean, there isn't all that much competition for good NA LANs in OW
I still love the OW Open
solid spear
well hopefully Rogue wins World Cup this year
toxic yacht
but the Atlantic Showdown will always have a special place in my heart
toxic yacht
yee
ube's ults were all garbage because the camera always decided to go to third person view 
digital pond
So what exactly happened to Krusher99
I never really kept up with his dissapearance story
vestal mortar
third person dragonblades 
kindred kiln
i think he lost 1v1 to thelegend27
digital pond
Well hopefully the OW league is better to him.
kindred kiln
and retired
balmy wolf
you know, i told people to not get hyped on Kungarna's return
and now they declined the invite.
can't get your hype train crashed if you don't even play?
rapid oxide
๐คท
limber pine
can a train crash without moving?
iron cedar
๐ค
wintry matrix
i mean, did they even confirmed who was on the roster?
balmy wolf
Babybay said that the roster won't be the same as the old Kungarna
so i'm puzzled why people was hyped up so much
rapid oxide
ConnorJ is wrist injuried
balmy wolf
and even then, the coach of old Kungarna had more than a few things to say about that team
since they actually kicked him out on the eve of NGE finals '
because instead of their coach Mykl wanted his friend to go instead
and generally commented on the team being "a mess" internally
wintry matrix
people were hyped because they were promising, that's it really (btw hyped =/= 100% sure they'll win everything)
the same way when IMT and LGE entered the scene
the same way NRG was exciting i guess
balmy wolf
i've been in the scene long enough and lurk behind the scene long enough to know that any hype bubble that is going to come up is inevitably lead to disaster
NRG is the most recent example one.
whereras if you compare Rogue's first outing in NA
everyone was not hyped as much as curious to how the team would do with new players
wintry matrix
I mean, each case is different
besides that 3 way trade didn't end well at first
(and LG never recovered from it)
balmy wolf
There have been multiple hype cycles that come and goes in OW
and not a lot of them actually fulfilled its potential
so most of the time i'd suggest people to calm their tits down
wintry matrix
and i mean, there's even and "wrong" kind of hype? sure it can lead to disappointment, but the process is nice, to feel excited
(also that generate buzz for the team, so more people watch etc.)
balmy wolf
Dummy made montages to generate buzz around NRG and we know how useful that is in actual matches
wintry matrix
i mean, lots of pros do montage, i don't think that's something to berate dummy for
balmy wolf
he added to the eventual hype train crashed
and the only pros with consistent montages too
he made like what, 4 montages in 2 months leading up to the OMM?
people to this day still mocked it
wintry matrix
that's life, sometimes shit fails
it's like "why live if i'm gonna die?"
(btw i suck with metaphors and speech)
and the NRG steams were pretty entertaining also, so
balmy wolf
I mean there's nothing I can do if people hyped up and then crashed their own accord
so eh
but other news
"So apparantly kyky was removed from c9"
"Not really, he's purposefully not trying out c9 players for the US team"
remember when we were talking about how Kyky's list were shite?
balmy wolf
well, somebody in here lurked on stream
and managed to shortlist a set of players that was in custom game lobby around 11pm EST
Harbleu mocked the short list as "Kyky's friends" though
toxic yacht
wasn't grego on the list?
balmy wolf
Grego was.
He wasn't with the 2nd iteration of C9 though
which had Roolf and Adam instead
toxic yacht
I mean, grego did say something about how he's likely not getting into the team thanks to a certain member of the committee
he did get tried anyway
vestal mortar
๐
toxic yacht
but that tweet implies that something was up with kyky
and now we're just getting more and more things that confirm it
wintry matrix
it's tough being a NV fan
tho i don't think that's catastrophic, if they put a team USA without and let big egos aside and have teamplay they have a chance
balmy wolf
you mean that whole streaming tryouts wasn't a big warning sign enough?
wintry matrix
i mean, kinda, but not the end of the world
pseudo sail
zave streaming right now folks, get in!
https://www.twitch.tv/zaveow
balmy wolf
I mean they had fuckin' Slasher trying to influence whole situation
and even Jason mocked him for it
and he wasn't voted into the committee
and of course Kyky's tweet
toxic yacht
after the committee was revealed
well, that's because slasher is a fucking joke, lol
balmy wolf
at this point I was rooting for team USA
but fuck that shit
all the picks and the things we've heard so far seems to be leading straight down into the trash
I'll just happily wait for Team Canada to stream
and hope Team UK will stream as well
as a giant fuck you to Team USA with their pineapples up their asses
toxic yacht
I wanna report team USA for throwing
also, taimou referred to Mickie and Effect as "Asian attack dogs" lmao
balmy wolf
there's no members from the previous WC team (which I suspect was Ster's influence on it)
which is reasonable but why you are excluding Mesr from it
what is this fucking committee doing
toxic yacht
this entire committee seems like a complete mess
it also looks like there are a ton of politics at play
lol
limber pine
sounds like normal
toxic yacht
yep, pretty much
toxic yacht
where did he get that from...?
could also be matchmaking and someone is trying to be misleading
although I doubt it
also, saying that he won't be participating multiple times while saying that he was not on par with the competition last year and then competing all of the sudden doesn't really line up
balmy wolf
you never know
toxic yacht
eh, no reason for him to do that
at this stage it feels like people are just looking for excuses to shit on him/meme about him
won't take this seriously until I see concrete proof
he could also just be filling atm
balmy wolf
I have no horses in the race so i'm just going to sit and see how it is develop
solid spear
Oneamongstmany liking it oof
pure kettle
lol watching the jeff kaplan answer twitter questions.....
who the heck asks for reaper to be nerfed.
RIP
solid spear
I mean I wouldnt liked Adam but its not like the supports they brought were undeserving
No Mesr is nore egregious than omitting those 2
balmy wolf
still though
the options for US supports and tanks are a lot
and Adam is considered to be one of the top
toxic yacht
I like where this is going ๐ spicy
solid spear
Yeah I get that Im just saying I could see why potentially someone would prefer the chosen supports
vestal mortar
Oh snap, so spicy
solid spear
๐
last lantern
gods is one of the most flexible players in the us rn
solid spear
Theres no way theyre gonna let him get away with this right? Lol
solid spear
Yeah
toxic yacht
is he salty at sty or something? I thought that they were good
balmy wolf
i mean Kyky is getting away with murder and I don't think we can do anything about it
pure kettle
wish i had a better grasp on what u guys were talking about ๐ฆ
New to esports and drama involved XD
blazing parrot
vestal mortar
It's okay, we will teach you all the things if you ever have any questions.
pure kettle
๐ฌ
vestal mortar
Haha oh man, C9 fidget spinners
balmy wolf
in any case
toxic yacht
kvo no
blazing parrot
kvo yes
balmy wolf
time to report people for throwing
toxic yacht
report team USA for throwing, I agree
if canada doesn't try surefour I'll also report them
vestal mortar
I will just report everyone
last lantern
canada isnt gonna try surefour
toxic yacht
inb4 south korea throws
last lantern
i mean canada isnt gonna not ry surefour
balmy wolf
Team Canada definitely will have Surefour lol
last lantern
s4 and roolf are must picks
blazing parrot
toxic yacht
I want surefour, roolf and agilities 100%
vestal mortar
YUS
last lantern
cool team would be s4, roolf, chance, verbo, agilities and train
balmy wolf
or xQC :barf:
toxic yacht
verbo, joemeister, phaz
last lantern
pls not xqc
toxic yacht
I pray that they don't throw it away like USA
balmy wolf
Team Canada actually enjoys the advantage that they aren't lacking in any department at all
last lantern
except off tank
toxic yacht
man, xQc fuckin snakes everyone from jolsen to his pharmercy
last lantern
we dont really have a stand out zrya player
toxic yacht
surefour can flex
toxic yacht
I mean, his zarya is really good
last lantern
yeah it is
toxic yacht
it's just that it's a bit of a waste imo
last lantern
but its def a waste
toxic yacht
"a bit"
last lantern
like last year when poke was on genji and he was on zarya it was just sad
last lantern
XD
toxic yacht
at least he and huk are on the committee now, so they can't fuck up the team by being on it
last lantern
well they can put themselves on the team
toxic yacht
huk also isn't an idiot, so I trust him when it comes to making a team
I'm not sure if Canada is allowed to do that
last lantern
any comittee can do that
balmy wolf
i'd actuallly interested to see if Huk is getting offers from other teams to put their players into the national squad
last lantern
if they deem it fit
toxic yacht
well, smaller
last lantern
really?
toxic yacht
pretty sure that USA isn't allowed to do it, there should also be a few more countries that aren't
last lantern
oh thank god
solid spear
No
Theyre allowed to
But they have to give up their committee spot
Or something like that
balmy wolf
that's the rules.
solid spear
In the case of Canada like Manga could in theory be on the team
Theres no oh youre big and not small so you have different rules
balmy wolf
i think that's the case? I don't remember
last lantern
that might suck
digital pond
last lantern
yeah
we saw that already
with gods being moved to hog/dps
its pretty much confirmed
toxic yacht
literally Lui after the match vs Meta Athena
https://i.imgur.com/sUcsZoO.png
vestal mortar
Oh jaysus
solid spear
so the Sty/OAM/OWCentral podcast isnt coming back?
toxic yacht
๐ฟ
solid spear
solid spear
suddle
toxic yacht
well, he just publicly called him retarded
I don't think that it's coming back after this, LUL
balmy wolf
btw
vestal mortar
Polo 
balmy wolf
anyone got the tweet of Kyb killing LH screenshots?
vestal mortar
Yeah that was 5ever ago
solid spear
@toxic yacht I was meming lol
balmy wolf
I probably will still stick my pitchfork though
toxic yacht
I doubt that anyone here raised their pitchforks
toxic yacht
probably it was supposed to be a joke, lul
supple nymph
did ajax leave nrg or just step off the active roster
half the places say one half the other
velvet scarab
he tweeted out that he was given the option to fight for his spot but decided to step down
velvet scarab
no
blazing parrot
oh shit
balmy wolf
aka PR for "getting cut"
blazing parrot
"hey ajax youre getting the boot"
" no fuck you i quit"
balmy wolf
and also, Babybay had said that the new Kungarna won't have the same roster
and we know at least ConnorJ is out of action due to his wrist
and of course
"can't be cut if you quit first"
digital pond
Pretty sure they'll be playing with Dogman too.
He said he was gonna stick with some of the splyce boyz on streams.
And Ajax was in his discord last night
toxic yacht
LMFAO
supple nymph
ripe marlin
LOL
rapid oxide
Update on Stylosa?
toxic yacht
we got je b aited
rapid oxide
I believe no one on Internet
So no j e baited
Also playing doesn't mean 100% in
Glad the sceenshot is fake btw
toxic yacht
lol, I think we're all glad
supple nymph
@spring lintel watch https://twitter.com/NRGgg/status/864923501802561536
spring lintel
What is this?
pine star
vestal mortar
I wish I had dried sardines tbh
gentle shuttle
anything happen lately
forest raven
Depends on what you've seen already
Kaiser most likely to c9
OMM quals on the 19th
Graceful and grego trialing on nrg
supple nymph
seagull started streaming again
balmy wolf
Kungarna dropped out of Melee quals
balmy wolf
Envision
rapid oxide
Dried sardines? 
forest raven
Ooh nice
last lantern
Kaiser wont be going to nrg
final thistle
Kaiser?
final thistle
Oh
last lantern
but Cloud 9 seems the most likely
final thistle
How come?
digital pond
He needs to make more money. Runaway is still an amateur team.
Org sponsored team yield more cash.
final thistle
Oh
last lantern
he has financial issues and runaway doesnt have any sponsors yet
digital pond
So he's looking in foreign teams.
last lantern
Runner is trying to do whats best for the team
last lantern
especially since they have some young players on the team
digital pond
They know his family is having financial issues.
last lantern
its just unfortunate for kaiser
digital pond
Yeh
final thistle
Yeah, sad
last lantern
theres just some speculation as to which team he is going to
since bishop stated that gods would be moving back to hog/dps and kaiser has previously stated that he would like to play iwth xepher
it seems likely its cloud 9
balmy wolf
supple nymph
mfw a post im writing a comment for gets deleted 
blazing parrot
oh uncleswagg is streaming btw
blazing parrot
yes
supple nymph
blazing parrot
and how he runs the community
blazing parrot
naw, he just said he doesnt believe low sr will ever reach sr
so theyres no point of not banning them
supple nymph
why is he banning low SR accounts ?
supple nymph
ah
blazing parrot
currently twitch has it that you can join any community whenever you want
you dont have to apply to get in
supple nymph
ic
blazing parrot
so tons of silvers to diamonds join the comp ow community without reading the rules
ivory charm
Why Kaiser? ๐ฉ
blazing parrot
why what
last lantern
hes leaving runaway
blazing parrot
yes
last lantern
which is sad
ivory charm
Yes
blazing parrot
no stable funds
last lantern
but hes coming to 
HYPE HYPE HYPE
last lantern
winston is pretty good too
blazing parrot
ye
@supple nymph uncle also talks about how lazy seagull is during his streams lol
solid spear
Kyo Im gonna have to cop 2bgasm wew
blazing parrot
@solid spear do you want the server invite instead?
solid spear
Oi sure
supple nymph
i saw
blazing parrot
lmfao
final river
Is kaiser really going to c9?
digital pond
Tempostorm always does that lmao
They cut people from the roster every 2 week and replace them to stay in the news
digital pond
Which is sucky cause Dreamkasper is a really good DPS.
And I wish he would try and sign with a different org.
Although with OWl coming guess it doesn't matter.
supple nymph
pesto doing live podcast on his discord https://twitter.com/PestoEnthusiast/status/865011750109884417
with sideshow
gogogoog
jovial eagle
seagull is lazy in his streams?
what does that mean?
...how do you be lazy in a stream?
supple nymph
@balmy wolf
balmy wolf
Tempo Storm has continually shit management
stretch back to like a few months ago
first they merged two teams together
then the management just continually favored one team over another
even though they just merged it
it is one of the smaller dumpster fire of OW
supple nymph
do they do Q&A?
balmy wolf
Tempo Storm?
blazing parrot
@jovial eagle hes lazy in taking care of his streams. ie emotes bio etc
supple nymph
is pesto the head cow guy
limber pine
pesto does a ton of stuff
wintry matrix
Kaiser going to Tempo Storm 
blazing parrot
pls no
solid spear
YES PLEASE
blazing parrot
@jovial eagle uncleswagg goes into more details and shit. i was just naming stuff off the top of my head
solid spear
Tempo Storm Loyal Kaiser
blazing parrot
NO
jovial eagle
oh
solid spear
blazing parrot
C9 Kaiser
solid spear
Ew
blazing parrot
Ew u
solid spear
Wait pls
delicate sparrow
balmy wolf
@delicate sparrow anything interesting from it?
delicate sparrow
they're doing tryouts probably every day for the next 3 weeks also at least 15 players have tried to talk ster into putting them in tryouts/on the team
pretty much all the relevant information is in like the first 2 minutes
also he mentioned that they have 2 teams of players so they can do in house scrims for tryouts but we already pretty much knew that with the whole 12 players thing
digital pond
Hope in house helps if they make weird ass picks
Jake was practicing Hog for the team USA earlier so he said on stream.
balmy wolf
well yeah
digital pond
So we was practicing Hog
balmy wolf
flex DPS also includes Genji as well
digital pond
Guess he's confident in his genji
v0v
Or he just practices Genji off stream
He got plenty of time with no school now
balmy wolf
we'll see
his Hog is servicable
but then this meta emphasized Genji more
so i'm not quite sure if grinding Hog is neccessary
digital pond
v0v
Maybe they might not run dive if KyKy is coaching
Since he doesn't make Envy run dive
balmy wolf
nV does not run dive is not because they want to, is because they can't though
digital pond
Well I feel liuke a team made out of top tier player and a thrown together team can't compare either
Maybe they picked players they can't dive with idk
balmy wolf
DPS is a weak spot of team USA
balmy wolf
out of the 4 we known none of them have shutdown proj DPS players though
Sinatraa have a Genji but it is more pubstomping than anything
Grim and Calvin is more hitscan
JAKE's Genji is average but his Pharah is straight up throw
digital pond
Good chance he might be but of course we don't knoa all of everyone on both teams
solid spear
I mean even Genji gods like Haksal are stuck on tanks a lot nowadays
balmy wolf
it was out of neccessity with Kaiser leaving though
so that isn't a good comparison
the best comparison is probably Shadowburn at best
solid spear
Im just saying Genji isnt even a characters most teams run all the time
solid spear
So he has to be practicing other stuff
digital pond
Same reason when Mendo subbed NRG he stopped genji after one game.
The deal is at the end of the day it's easier to take a Genji player and teach him pharah than the opposite.
Or some off tanks
solid spear
I mean him playing Hog just doesnt say anything to me
digital pond
I was making reference to Reign's statement about jake's pharah being abysmal.
Not your statement about him playing hog.
solid spear
They were running some non Genji comps Genji only sits around like 35% usage usually so chances are a lot of the time youre not playing him
I was paying attention to Wolf
Sorry Wolf bb <.<
balmy wolf
well, at least i wasn't being "annoying"
anyway, listened to the Around the Watch podcast, one of them noted that somehow within a week, EU meta was back to triple tank
the observation was made by Reinforce after a week not playing
it is kind of strange if that happen especially with Genji got buff
so maybe it is for preparing for new meta down the line?
digital pond
I just hope they have a solid Dva player
solid spear
I mean Genji is still good but hes not even as like easy to spam in every comp all the time as lile Tracer/76
digital pond
LEarn yes, but I mean in the sense of competing vs the premiere teams at the WC
solid spear
And Coolmatt69 is a very good DVa
digital pond
I'm sure Harbleu picked up Dva decently fast but that doesn't make him a Zunba level Dva
Oh yeah I forget since I haven't seen Matt in so long
solid spear
Harb isnt on the team Im pretty sure
digital pond
Oh hey Geguri is streaming
wintry matrix
the chinese pro who was bullied by some krs?
rapid oxide
i think ehome korea is dead/disbanded
digital pond
Yeah I think they're like t2 in Asia right now so they do tournaments that aren't too huge for now.
solid spear
Harb got tried out
coo
said he wasnt on the initial list but yesterday they tried him out
toxic yacht
kyky didn't want to get banned
toxic yacht
harb himself
digital pond
I still think it's funny none of the C9 dude got invited
KyKy is probably a secret assassin
Tattoos the name of the people wronging him in OW on his arms
balmy wolf
isn't Adam still in C9?
solid spear
Adam I think is now
digital pond
Is Adam confirmed?
balmy wolf
he is starting to invite some out of left field candidates
digital pond
I guess they're doing the "tryout multiple people" first week strat
balmy wolf
perhaps his initial candidates list wasn't up to snuff ๐ค
digital pond
Yeah i could see that
digital pond
They could be swapping as it goes
solid spear
I mean I dont think you needs Gods neccesarily
digital pond
I feel like not taking Gods when you need a Genji is weird as all fuck
Cause his Genji is better than most other NA dps
vestal mortar
Phew, I was hoping they'd try out more than the initial 12.
vestal mortar
๐
digital pond
Most Genjis are meh in NA
toxic yacht
but it really isn't spectacular
digital pond
Still better than a lot of other DPS players
Considering Agilities ain't no option
I guess they could try out KAyuun
solid spear
Jake feels
Like a pretty safe bet
Considering hero pools and who seems to have been invited
digital pond
Yeah, I guess they don't HAVE to run Genji either
solid spear
I mean its nice as an option
toxic yacht
eh, gods' genji is very meh for NA standards even
digital pond
Yeh especially vs Rogue or South korea
balmy wolf
yeah well, you need maximum flexibility for future patch changes though
toxic yacht
his genji is as average as it gets for the region
balmy wolf
so inability to run a Genji is kind of a weak spot
digital pond
But I do think in terms of flexibility Gods is pretty high'
toxic yacht
people like ultimawep and spirit are much better genjis
digital pond
They are
Just not as flexible
Generally people want the Genji player to be the flex
balmy wolf
idk about Gods. He feels like a discounted Jake, who is already a discounted Tviq
solid spear
I mean I know people like to shit on Jake but his Genji is still better than Gods
digital pond
And it's pretty important
Well people shit on it because he's a blade genji
More than anything
He isn't abysmal or anything
balmy wolf
NA had been weak in the DPS department for years now
digital pond
But usually when he plays genji he'll get compared to other NA genjis
balmy wolf
Grim was supposedly one of those who transcend
digital pond
Like agilities that outshines him
BY fucking miles
When you get compared like that it hurts
toxic yacht
it's really not hard to outshine it tbh
balmy wolf
DPS level in NA is generally poor
digital pond
I'm just glad Adam is getting tried out
balmy wolf
no MESR though
digital pond
He's a strong Lucio pick
balmy wolf
toxic yacht
no mesr is a throw
digital pond
Considering no Grego
balmy wolf
it will also depends on who shotcalling too
digital pond
Yeh I like Super. But I don't feel his Monkey is that strong.
balmy wolf
Super is a Reinhardt main. His Winston is weak.
everytime LG Evil tried to dive
it is a throw fest
digital pond
And whatever team they make if Jake is in it, he'll have tog et used to everyone on the team not bending over and doing whatever he says.
Cause LGE works well but Jake calls all the shots.
digital pond
Taking people from other teams they prob won't just agree if he makes it
balmy wolf
the thing i'm worrying now is that team USA might get too many carry
and not enough consistent/support player
toxic yacht
just get shake
balmy wolf
the supports are solid, but idk about tanks and DPS
like the entire DPS lines are inconsistent
digital pond
Yeah Tank section might be rough main tank wise tbh.
Cause we don't know everyone trying out but obviously.
There aren't MANY NA choices
Sinatraa too
balmy wolf
I mean there's Buds
Buds have been operating under the shadow for god know how long
and he actually get shit done as a secondary carry DPS
I'd pair Buds to either Sinatraa or Calvin
if only because Sinatraa is the least inconsistent out of the bunch
you have JAKE, Grim as carry
but even when teams devoted resources to them, more often than not it is the other guy carry
digital pond
Well to be fair
Calvin pro scene experience is very little
One time I remember him playing he was also on zarya for GFE
So it's easier to pin point Sinatraa's weaknesses
balmy wolf
Idk why Calvin is in there tbh
balmy wolf
Sinatraa might be feeding at times but he doesn't suffered months long slump
digital pond
But soloQ and tournament differ
solid spear
Hes good just not as proven
balmy wolf
I'd get Silkthread in tbh
digital pond
^^^^^
But he isn't done with school til june iirc
So I don't think his schedule would match
balmy wolf
Silkthread is willing to be in team USA though
solid spear
Problem is how dedicated will he be to it
balmy wolf
since he actually said on JAKE's stream that he is willing to
toxic yacht
iirc silkthread wants to focus on school for the time being
so no boosting service for team USA
digital pond
Well no
He said a few times he's interested in going pro
But he's in the middle of finals
So ya
toxic yacht
being interested in going pro and wanting to focus on finals aren't mutually exclusive
balmy wolf
He also said he is willing to play for team USA too. Just no one had talked to him about it.
digital pond
^
toxic yacht
inb4 kyky doesn't like silkthread
digital pond
KyKy doesn't seem to like a certain amount of good NA players lmao
balmy wolf
I mean with Slasher influencing the whole team USA business
and Kyky not doing his best
this is looking more and more throwing
toxic yacht
this entire thing is such a joke
digital pond
balmy wolf
btw, Jason Kaplan right now I think is safely considered to be a non factor
since he is in Germany
toxic yacht
I still hope that they put together something decent though
balmy wolf
yeah, buit I doubt he will mingle with the Team USA thing anymore
digital pond
I think he got a bit jaded,.
balmy wolf
just let Ster, Slasher and Kyky plunged the ship into the ground
digital pond
I mean they is a big word.
toxic yacht
pretty sure that it's just kyky now
balmy wolf
Ster is observing the scrim so there's that at least
digital pond
On the sad side
balmy wolf
At least Jason doesn't hate me for the convo that got leaked 
still 
I apologized to the guy via PM
balmy wolf
he said "it is all good"
digital pond
The best Duo
digital pond
Good old NA.
toxic yacht
too bad that their in the same goddamn group
balmy wolf
personally if Team USA suffered a first round exit, I'd laugh my way to the bank that day
toxic yacht
I ๐ that he abandons ship if QC gets big
toxic yacht
then the quake community can have him back, lol
I'll just laugh my ass off and shake my head
then continue the "Seagull knew" meme
balmy wolf
it would be a worst version of the NRG hype train crashed
all the signs are there
secretive business
"hype" videos
toxic yacht
inb4 seagull isn't participating because he knows that the team is gonna be garbage
I'll go cheer for my EU teams
balmy wolf
Seagull can take in money
toxic yacht
and canada
balmy wolf
I will cheer for other teams too
balmy wolf
I mean we kind of expect this level of clown show after Jason Kaplan, Kyky and Ster got voted in
but now turned out that Jason is the sane one
and Slasher is doing his best to interfering in it
toxic yacht
I was hoping that kyky knew his shit and I trusted jason
but no, apparently kaplan is the only reasonable one
and slasher somehow found his way in
wintry matrix
well, it's more because of big egos than of coaching skill i suppose
digital pond
PRetty much yeh
KyKy seemed the most experience on the list.
But he seemed to want thing his way or no way, of course we don't know the background talks.
wintry matrix
oh shit, i think USA can legit not get qualified, depending on how Brazil shows up
digital pond
Oh?
solid spear
Well Brazil will be BGH
wintry matrix
group is Tawain and NZ
digital pond
Well I'm sure BGH improved who knows v0v
They didn't look mediocre last OMM they came
Just more learning.
And lagging
At 200 ping
wintry matrix
one of the commite is BGH coach
solid spear
I still think if they arent conpletely stupid they should qualify
Its not as if there isnt talent
Either way theyre getting bodied at Blizzcon
balmy wolf
yeah
rapid oxide
i think that brazilian, china and OCE is underrated
balmy wolf
their talent base are deeper than NA
because America as large as it is, it is only a country
rapid oxide
it's easy to be better than NA lmao
balmy wolf
I mean that's why Rogue relocated
chilled in European hyperbolic time chamber
go to NA
proceed to shit on everyone
of course, having sterling leadership like Slasher certainly help the scene
lol
wintry matrix
i actually enjoyed slasher on the tourneys he was, didn't know he was so annoying outside of it
rapid oxide
honestly... can't wait some quake live obnoxious fags abandon ow
they are fucking annoying
like "qc?!? ow unistalled!!!"
wintry matrix
as in pros or just in general?
rapid oxide
don't wanna say who
but there are a lots of people that are dicksucking quake in favor of ow
too bad that QC is a trash arena, it's not even an fps arena lol
wintry matrix
tbh i have the impression that 90% of the pro players hate OW
balmy wolf
Quake Champions can be a decent esport
if ID software know what they are doing
Quake duels are good
and the Sacrifice mode is fun
balmy wolf
Depends. Rapha, Dahand, ID doesn't seem to complain about it
rapid oxide
๐ฐ
balmy wolf
ID did also have other Quake veterans like Zero4 and Evil playtested it
rapid oxide
๐ฐ
balmy wolf
so it is not all doom and gloom
lol
I mean though, as good as Quake Champions might be
if they are going to have Slasher and his merry bands going to be back
and trying to influence the whole scene again
๐ซ
wintry matrix
did he do something in quake?
rapid oxide
prob he's good
balmy wolf
and also @wintry matrix remember the adage that once your hobby is a job it ceased being fun? Yeah
rapid oxide
but not a pro level imo
don't belive their opinion btw
most likely they got payed
im 100% sure
wintry matrix
I mean, that i understand, but i have this image of them hating the game to it's guts, like legit hating from the start, kinda like Clockwork
rapid oxide
true veterans, included pros, know that quake champions IS NOT quake
balmy wolf
from a cursory searching, Slasher seems to mingled in every esports that ever lived
and it is telling that he keep bandwagoning
he used to be in Starcraft, LoL, etc etc
rapid oxide
Clockwork better if he stick to TF2
he doesn't like OW
but because of money is on OW... good riddance he's trash
balmy wolf
we'll see
toxic yacht
help me. I can't stop making memes
https://i.imgur.com/SqpdYZI.png
balmy wolf
if QC add something like proper match making with classical duel
I could see it get big
but it is a decent game though
and also @rapid oxide there had been purer Quake clones before
none of them got traction
so I don't think appeal to the older crowd is a good idea
and also @toxic yacht ๐
wintry matrix
i'd watch that
and what are the expectations for QC, it's supposed to be huge or just a niche thing?
balmy wolf
somewhere in between
because it trying to court both crowds
the hardcore old fags
and the newer generations
balmy wolf
DOOM multiplayer was a mess from the start
it was a single player game with a multi player mode tacked on anyway
clever wagon
Rapha fragging in QC 
balmy wolf
I found it interesting that even though this discord and a few others already had a decent idea of who's going to get a tryout
people are still questioning it
toxic yacht
a lot of those people probably aren't super active in these kind of communities
what we consider common knowledge tends to reach them a bit late. I always forget that we are the minority
balmy wolf
true
i just kind of wish this whole ordeal is over with
so that we can move on to other things
toxic yacht
it's like watching a train derail, crash and burn in slow motion
I kinda enjoy it tbh
balmy wolf
I just want to taste the shradenfraude that will follow once Team USA crashed and burned
muted creek
you guys think this game will be as big as league someday?
balmy wolf
only if Blizzard does not fuck it up
small basin
I think it'll be dead in a year tbh
small basin
it doesnt help that this game is so largely casual
balmy wolf
Blizzard can only have themselves to blame
they never really make the esport and competitive side their focus
instead it is always events, or skins
and now we are suppose to believe that Blizzard will make OW esport great all of a sudden?
rapid oxide
small basin
oh boy thos pros sure did press Q 2 win together
certainly have never seen that in the game
Most pro pushes look like something you'd see right out of diamond sr
balmy wolf
personally another 25% increase in ult charge might actually make the game better
small basin
we dont need more roadhog buffs
balmy wolf
lol
Finagle's Law, man
just gotta wait
and seeing how Team USA shit had been going down
balmy wolf
it won't be long till something imploded
rapid oxide
"Most pro pushes look like something you'd see right out of diamond sr" 
small basin
OH WAOH
BIGG EARTH SHATTER
HE LOOKED IN THE DIRECTION
HE PRESSED THE Q KEY
WOAAAA
delicate sparrow
this reddit thread is hilarious tho
small basin
yea no its exactly the same
delicate sparrow
"Kephrii and Gale said they want to join team USA but I'm not sure if they even tried out."
lol
small basin
idk shit like that makes it a hard esport
to actually get engaged in
its a lot of nothing and tickling then everyone presses q
rapid oxide
Take a car, hit the ball, score WOAAA
small basin
I mean really, at least in other esports it takes aim.
but in this game
we get
BEUTIFUL TRACKING
from tatical visor
๐
small basin
call it a troll totally not a valid point now
rapid oxide
like if your point are equally valid lmao
small basin
Im sorry you think it takes skill to use an aimbot
clever wagon
@small basin Why do you even bother bringing this shit up here of all places
toxic yacht
yes, because this is totally pressing Q
https://clips.twitch.tv/VibrantGloriousClipsmomBudBlast
rapid oxide
@toxic yacht nice q press man, 0 skill involved