Is there a good replacement for him rn?
#esports-discussion
spring lintel
balmy wolf
Ajax was a problem, but not as glaring as Dummy. But if you are playing Lucio and have to gives some shotcalling stuff to the off tank
something is up
as far as Numlocked though
there's Meza, Plouk
last lantern
and now nrg signed the tsm general manager
solid spear
I honestly thought Ajax was improving surprised to see him gone before Dummy
last lantern
dummy has avoided the bench many times now
spring lintel
Dummy probably has been given the same choice as ajax
To fight for his spot
Or leave
balmy wolf
Dummy doesn't have a choice. He is so trashed right now that the only way that he could get employment is if a tier 2 team need a player
last lantern
yeah but dummy isnt gonna just give up his spot
spring lintel
But damn dude he was the best of the other two
Shake is gonna destroy him and he will leave
last lantern
he thinks he is so good
spring lintel
Yeah thats his problem honestly
He legit thinks he is so good and he is not improving
last lantern
like his unwilligness to change his playstyle is unbelievable
so many casters have called out his bad positioning
spring lintel
I am so upset to see ajax leaving before dummy and numlocked
balmy wolf
he has been a problem since way back
spring lintel
But he improved
balmy wolf
so it is kind of surprise that he survived 3 roster purged
spring lintel
Unlike the other 2
balmy wolf
as far as Ajax goes, I'm not quite sure about him improving. Harb has said that he took some of the shotcalling now instead of Ajax
last lantern
i honeslty dont think numlocked is as bad a problem as dummy
balmy wolf
he might be improving mechanically but if Ajax can't shotcall properly then why do you want to retain him
spring lintel
Aythen and shake are available right?
balmy wolf
Hidan
spring lintel
Yeah hidan
balmy wolf
Literally LGL + NRG core pls
balmy wolf
Hidan and the rest are in France though
spring lintel
100%
balmy wolf
fucking ship em over
last lantern
i dont understand why grego never got to try out
balmy wolf
they have the funds
and we already know Graceful is ringing with EU ping
He did @last lantern
spring lintel
Grego is probably fightin
balmy wolf
He said he felt like he wasn't wanted
last lantern
oh right
spring lintel
Grego might replace ajax maybe?
last lantern
i thought he said he felt like they didnt want to give him a tryout
spring lintel
Any other good lucios out there?
balmy wolf
right now? Joemeister
last lantern
joemeister
balmy wolf
he was solid in Complexity
last lantern
at this point NRG needs to get a solid 6
balmy wolf
right now having a good shotcaller is such a premium that it is insane.
last lantern
especially if they are considering joing the OWL
last lantern
so many teams just droppped their players there are so many free agents
spring lintel
Ube can work
balmy wolf
this is assuming that NRG have some sense
they just hired the guy who run TSM OW to the ground
spring lintel
They have all the money in the world and they are so
last lantern
mendo is still with 
so he wont be going with NRG
spring lintel
He is not
balmy wolf
They can easily buy him out
spring lintel
He is just with them on a contract
balmy wolf
"easily"
last lantern
Yeah the TSM GM did a great job running his team /s
balmy wolf
They've already dropped loads on this roster, they might aswell drop more to get an actual good one
they already plunged at least 6 figures into buyouts and roster cost with team house and such
last lantern
i highly doubt C9 is giving NRG mendo
spring lintel
They only have 2 solid players ๐
balmy wolf
telling them to plunge more money isn't efficient dealing
spring lintel
Harb and iddqd
last lantern
and S4 just destroyed him
balmy wolf
Ube is just average in term of Genji
his Hog is alright
but that's not what needed right now
last lantern
i mean if faze drops their team
spring lintel
That 4 years is insane
last lantern
it nullifies the contract
balmy wolf
that's a huge if.
balmy wolf
I think they'd rather just let Shadowburn rot in contract jail so that a team can spent bucks to buy him out
last lantern
and LG dropped LG loyal
balmy wolf
eh, GFE is more likely
velvet scarab
do you know of kayuun?
last lantern
genji just hasnt been in the meta for a while
spring lintel
He is meta af dude
last lantern
so not many players have practiced their projectile
no im just saying b4 now
we were in quad/triple tank meta
spring lintel
Before 3 months maybe
But we have been in dive meta for months now
Seagull was the perfect fit for the 3rd dps
balmy wolf
he made the right choice, tbh
getting money stream
rather than crashed and burned with the NRG hype train
spring lintel
I guess
velvet scarab
seagull 
spring lintel
He is famous as fuck
20k viewers
Like he is done with life now
He is only joining OwL if it's gonna be like real sport
With a shit ton of money
balmy wolf
the WPE curse continues
none of the teams or players that played in that cursed LAN had came out favorably
Renegades had to rebuild their roster
CoL is disbanded
Faze is dogshit
IMT is inconsistent
Waiting for the NA teams for takeover to be announced 
inb4 NA teams get invited and then EU rekt them
NA forever the shittiest region
last lantern
not really
Im pretty sure NV and C9 could stand against misfits, NIP movistar
maybe selfless too
spring lintel
I think inconsistency has to do with the game itself
balmy wolf
the amount of teams that had beaten NiP can only be counts in one hand
so they are beefy gatekeeper
despite not playing in their meta anymore
So Singularity Ninjas, Dig, Misfits, Riders and eU are tier 1 then?
last lantern
movistar as well
balmy wolf
Singularity Ninja ended up flunked out of the playoff
I listed them @last lantern
so it is more of an upset rather than actually indicative I think
but Dig, Misfits, Riders, and EU with NIP are all tier 1
last lantern
cyclone is also pretty good
fleet idol
will the live events be open to the public?
fleet idol
the world cup
last lantern
yes blizzcon is
fleet idol
i mean the group stages
last lantern
you have to buy tickets to blizzcon then do to the event u want
fleet idol
where it's held in 4 cities
balmy wolf
yes @fleet idol
fleet idol
oh nice
balmy wolf
It is 4 qualifier LAN
last lantern
no i just meant where did u see than the qualifiers will be open to public
balmy wolf
It'd be stupid to fly teams out to play against themselves
And not in front of fans
Stay tuned for more details on each venue and how you can attend to support your team.
balmy wolf
Yeah, they obviously intend these to be attendable
glass glen
i bet 200usd on south korea
delicate sparrow
I feel like it's borderline impossible for south korea to lose so that's a pretty safe bet
wintry matrix
did the 2 teams dropped like Alicus said yet?
and sad to see Ajax being cut, to me this seems like another syptom of some disease NRG will never get rid
balmy wolf
No one since Dig, fnatic and loyal
jovial eagle
oh
wintry matrix
didn't someone said that was the same as being cut? if not, my bad
wintry matrix
still, i don't think NRG's problems are specific players (well, maybe dummy)
jovial eagle
it's all semantics
clever wagon
Twitter
jovial eagle
he was given an option to fight for his spot
clever wagon
Don't even start speculating
jovial eagle
who else was NRG looking for
balmy wolf
Can't get cut if you stepped down first
And honestly this is PR speech. Hulk get kicked out of nV and on twitter he said he decided not to sign again
wintry matrix
i mean, even the way he worded in the tweet, seems like he was cut (with the option to fite)
jovial eagle
yeah
balmy wolf
NRG also signed the guy who run TSM OW into the ground so NRG will always be a shit org
wintry matrix
i think the only NRG could work is if they picke an already established orgless team, with it's own coach and manager and just handle the money part
is stuff like Ajax getting cut after a few official matches that shows
solid spear
I mean the whole stepped down thing is eh
balmy wolf
Man even I could probably do a better job with building a team for NRG. I built and manage two by myself
solid spear
I mean its like Hulk "parted ways"
but later we found out he was effectively cut
but we dont know so whatever not important and wont speculate too much I just believe wat Ajax senpai says
wintry matrix
agree
jovial eagle
i don't know enough of the inner workings of an organization
wintry matrix
only now i remembered that they got a new coach, so maybe Ajax didn't fit into his plans
(but if dummy fit into it i'd be worried)
jovial eagle
that's a possibility
balmy wolf
even if it explicit said on PR, always assume the worst case scenario
wintry matrix
(unlesse he got his shit together)
jovial eagle
what does that mean
balmy wolf
that's kind of how esport been running
jovial eagle
what happened with dummy
wintry matrix
nothing afaik
jovial eagle
oh
balmy wolf
according to some
Dummy managed to survived this long
is purely due to politicking on his part
make of that as you will.
I'd rather just imagine him having a really good blowjob.
wintry matrix
seems hard to be any reason other than that
wintry matrix
(the politicking, not the bj)
balmy wolf
personally, NRG needs a total rebuild
but then they signed Derrick
who mismanaged the TSM OW team so bad that those who knows of it basically said that it is OW's best hidden dumpster fire
even larger compare to NRG
so
๐ซ
wintry matrix
they first need to get their shit together in the managerial and coaching stuff, then build a team
why did TSM fail anyway?
balmy wolf
long story short, can't get a team together for reasons
first there was the AJAX business
then they had 2 players bought out
wintry matrix
i remember the players speaking good of the org
balmy wolf
nah, again, PR
FAs that tried out for them always spoke about the org rather negatively
wintry matrix
oh
balmy wolf
Linepro has said that his dealing with TSM was the worst
B1am and ConnorJ being locked into their jail was also another thing
and even then
we haven't know the full extent of things
Pesto_Enthusiast had said that whatever we think about TSM OW, it is always worst in reality
wintry matrix
seems reasonable
last lantern
balmy wolf
one other thing i'm musing about NRG right now
they seems to lack a strong shotcaller
since "everyone shotcall"
and every teams need at least a central shotcaller. Hell, even nV had HarryHook calling comps and strats most of the time
Ajax does not seems to fit that
wintry matrix
wasn't he the shotcaller in Kungarna?
last lantern
i think ajax needed a better partner
balmy wolf
well, Dummy put himself in shit positions at times but Ajax didn't seems to peel for him either
so it is a ๐คท
last lantern
ajax tried to peel but then ended up dying
wintry matrix
didn't you said the shotcaller was "everyone"?
last lantern
thats alot of voices talking at once
balmy wolf
very few teams functions without at least a central figure in term of shotcaller
so the depends is very rare
more exception than the norm
hell, even Vonethil who is renowned as a shotcaller get kicked out of Fnatic because after getting thrashed by the KR
they thought that his shotcalling wasn't good enough
clever wagon
Yeah but that still means it's not "never"
balmy wolf
it is "2 in 100 teams" level of exception
clever wagon
Very rare, yeah
clever wagon
Never said they are
wintry matrix
remember Ajax saying that when the team is lost the supports and rein can look very silly
clever wagon
I know that clip since like a week ago
last lantern
just putting it out
balmy wolf
back then, NRG had Enigma shotcalling, but he wasn't up to their standard because he lacked authority, even if he was creative.
Then they brought Numlocked in but his style of shotcalling clashed with NRG's style so they reverted back to Enigma anyway
so NRG has a spotty history in term of shotcalling
in a nutshell, it is one of NRG's more glaring issue
last lantern
as well as seagull not playing
clever wagon
I mean didn't Ajax do decently for a Lucio back in old Kungarna
balmy wolf
decently is a large stretch when your competition level was mid tier
pine star
Problem for Ajax me thinks is Newcio
It requires so much more raw mechanical skill than before
last lantern
yeah he needs alot of practice on newcio
clever wagon
I mean in terms of just fundamental actions
Which unfortunately even that look kinda questionable in the current NRG
Still think the biggest problem is the other support
balmy wolf
Dummy is the biggest issue
doesn't mean that his issue is large enough to overlooked other issues.
Dummy also made Ajax look worse than he actually was
With how bad he is
clever wagon
Give them a better Ana and probably Ajax can get more room to work
clever wagon
With this particular Ana he has to babysit like 5 times more lol
balmy wolf
in Kungarna Ajax was never a fragger, and for the most part was non factor. Meanwhile you have Winz and Dhak doing stuffs on Lucio
in this particular meta and beyond having a decent Lucio actually mattered now
pine star
lol
clever wagon
Like again that clip was particularly agitating
Why even bother standing still to frag a slept Tracer when you don't have nade up
balmy wolf
because Dummy is a bot
And when theres a zen
ulting
on the tracer
mind you, Dummy used to be a flex DPS before going full time flex support.
and even then his flex DPS wasn't anything noteworthy
except maybe feeding
he couldnt hit a sleeping tracer with an ana projectile shot at point blank
i doubt his dps was good at all
clever wagon
Like even on a lot of cases it's easier to just leave a fragger/flanker sleeping until you can actually get a teammate to gang them
Because that's one less disruption for 5-6 seconds
And you can use your kit to sustain teammates
balmy wolf
Dummy's mechanics are fine compare to the 99%, but his game sense is trashed and he lagged severely behind other flex support
balmy wolf
i mean there's also the meme that in comp Dummy does not have good heal at all
his healing per game is trash for someone who is GM
clever wagon
And this is coming from someone who has spent 2 seasons trying to not touch support role as much as possible
wintry matrix
Ajax was master for a bit
wintry matrix
oh, didn't know
clever wagon
Because I want to learn off-tank/dps flex as much as possible
wintry matrix
is dummy on overbuff/one of these stat sites?
clever wagon
Any OW player is
wintry matrix
i thought you had to register
balmy wolf
Dummy decayed. Meanwhile, Ajax was actively mocked for dropped down to 3.8K at one point
not even decaying
supple nymph
balmy wolf
Search your name and your profile is there
clever wagon
Because I reckon they take the data directly from Blizz
balmy wolf
Not every player in the game is on the website, its only people who have searched for themselves
most of the data in the sites are just for comparison, and not really accurate since different sites have different methodology
the only accurate stat at this point is just SR
Dummy decayed, and Ajax dropped to 3.8K for whatever reason. Both got mocked in and out of the game for their performance.
clever wagon
Constant downward trend most likely means decay
If constant trend is really the case
supple nymph
why would he never play comp?
clever wagon
I don't remember having seen Ajax SR graph yet
balmy wolf
too busy getting montage clips in scrims
clever wagon
Idk, scrims?
clever wagon
Scrim and then instead of comp he goes through his vods to edit montages
supple nymph
lol...
supple nymph
he did his last montage a month ago
balmy wolf
the thing though is that pros will often do comp just to a. maintain their SR and b. it is a form of practice
clever wagon
Esp the latter
Like at that level high SR comp is a decent place to do mechanical warm up I think
At the very least
Among other things
clever wagon
I mean really
I get where he's coming from
I'm plat but I understand his sentiment
Because QP is so fucking shit to even do mechanical warm up
balmy wolf
i feel like most pros dont take ranked seriously
clever wagon
For an average SR player
balmy wolf
at least the ones that have streamed it anyway
clever wagon
Like you're better off to just go practice range or jump in comp
balmy wolf
it depends
JAKE and Tviq took it pretty seriously
and treats it as practice
meanwhile Chips is just chilling with his Sombra only T500 acc
clever wagon
Nah idk bout Jake if he really takes it seriously
Feels like it's just how he has fun
supple nymph
they only scrim 4-6 hours a day right
that doesnt seem like enough practice without ranked
clever wagon
I mean serious question
Do Korean teams aside from LH takes health care that seriously?
balmy wolf
yeah?
having good health is incredibly underrated
good sleep, good nutrition, good body, etc etc
Rogue have their own nutritionist
supple nymph
effect had to take leave from MA before he went to envyus because of overwork
sounds like a common thing in kr culture
clever wagon
Regular physical training is important in esports, but maybe I just haven't seen the Korean OW players
balmy wolf
you need to treat esport as a real regular sport, not just a mental sport
clever wagon
Ikr? I'm asking because that's exactly the case
There's a noticeable difference in the amount of players having health issues more often than not are likely related to PC-overworking in KR
From what I see that is
balmy wolf
at the bare minimum
you need to have decent amont of sleep
but we are all fuckin' night owls
clever wagon
I mean we're not doing esports as our job, so...
We basically do activities in the day and then play at night
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
But with esports you play do games at working hours
balmy wolf
right now there's still a lot of psuedo science with esport that is not properly explored or refued
you'd think nerds working with computers would know better but eh
supple nymph
i wanna know if aim hero works ๐ฆ
balmy wolf
statement like "if you want to get better you need to play more" drive me up the fucking wall
clever wagon
So from a normie's point of view if you're doing games as your job there's no excuse to not maintain health properly with all the time you have off "work"
balmy wolf
@supple nymph it worked for Sayaplayer ๐คท
only if you actually committ to at least a cycle of Rest, Train, Perform
and actually structure your training properly
clever wagon
I mean on paper I heard Aim Hero is basically just working out your mouse hand @supple nymph
With all the mobility you get in OW... On paper they don't really fit
supple nymph
sayaplayer played tracer for like 1 minute in that whole series
clever wagon
But if it works for you then ๐คท
balmy wolf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6azng0/your_thoughts_on_aim_training/dhin2rw/
supple nymph
so disappoint
balmy wolf
to put in a more real life sport perspective, you don't tell football players to go and just play more football to get better
or soccer players to just "play more soccers"
supple nymph
raw hours is never the answer you have to reflect and fix your mistakes
clever wagon
I just thought that maybe QC works better for aim training for a game like OW
balmy wolf
well yeah, because for most people playing raw hours just reinforced shits they know
clever wagon
Translates better than CSGO or Aim Hero
supple nymph
did nrg not have a coach at all until seamoose?
balmy wolf
treat Aim Hero as drills and things that you can improve and shore up specific parts of your game
supple nymph
would be hard to improve w/o one
balmy wolf
treat Aim Hero as drills and things that you can improve and shore up specific parts of your game
but you still need to play to get better nonetheless
They had oplaid
for however long
also most underrated aiming guide ever https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315455585
it is a really good work out routine, actually. It have structure, progression, and clear goals
wintry matrix
swedish player, ex splyce
spring lintel
What does he play?
Looked but it only said flex
And why do they want a flex ?
They already have harb
Unless they wanted harb to dps
He plays genji so he is a great fit
They are keeping dummy though ๐ค
pine star
Holy shit
Just finished watching the nV vs MA match
Those 2 last maps were some tank meta nV dominance
balmy wolf
More like Effect carrying their fat tank asses 
pine star
True
But Chips on Sombra
And Harry on Zen
They did some work
But yeah
Fucking Effect
I mean, the fact that Taimou looked barely serviceable in the whole series says a lot
balmy wolf
remember when Hulk was kicked out of nV and he said that he didn't resign with nV on twitter?
same situation here, tbh.
although
the fact that Dummy survived 3 roster purge
struck me as funny
pine star
I mean
Dummy is more of a problem than Ajax probably
But if they are replacing him with Grego
Count me the fuck in
spring lintel
He might have some inside connections
clever wagon
But the biggest issue is still there, still standing strong after numerous roster shakeups
balmy wolf
the Hammers are top tier 2 now
in EU
they kept making to the final of both of the qualifiers for TakeOver
but beat out both time by Movistar
dull widget
Movi and ex-Riders
wintry matrix
actually Hammers beat Movi in one of the qualifiers, but lost to ex-cyclone
balmy wolf
Reunited was a lot worse off for it though
Like if you just look at their full results
So many 2nd place finishes
balmy wolf
๐
remember when we talked about
how Slasher was an idiot?
was wondering the context of that message lol
spring lintel
Hey guys will the qualifiers be streamed?
Jelly
The best news is happening
Nrg is changing the roster
Best news I have heard in a while
feral solar
i have no expectations for NRG until they do something atleast
digital pond
I mean he's already swimming in it it seems haha.
Who knows maybe there will be other good projectile players by then
digital pond
I just mean in general.
I feel like if he comes back he might not go to NRG
All depends if NRG gets a spot.
And if NFL orgs wanna buy packaged teams.
And I feel like they would do it only for successful squad like Selfless.
Rest will probably be more drafty imo. Unless the owners get a good deal of input from experienced players.
balmy wolf
he have 15K watchers
digital pond
Or rather not players but scene experienced analysts and such.
jovial eagle
half that goes to twitch
digital pond
That's also not counting people using the 10$ and 25$ sub
jovial eagle
there's different sub options?
digital pond
Yes
10$ and 25$ count as multi subbed accounts
Allowing channels to get more emotes.
Was added last month.
jovial eagle
huh
so
is there a demand of overwatch streamers that's sucking in gold?
because if yes, i fit that bill perfectly
digital pond
Haha
Well depends if you're entertaining.
Tyler one is horrid at any game but League most times but he brings people laughs.
Fake drama too.
rapid oxide
Since when silkthread is LG Evil sub?
balmy wolf
no clue
delicate sparrow
@rapid oxide since before the drama with jolson at least. never seen him play with them before tho
balmy wolf
Yeah I heard he was a sub back when all the jolson drama happened
I dont ever recall them announcing it though
final river
Yesterday's matches were awesome, just finished watching runaway vs Uncia
rapid oxide
Its LG Evil, not Denial! 
balmy wolf
?
balmy wolf
For when someone cant play I assume
I was talking about your comment btw
"its LG Evil not Denial"
what did you mean
rapid oxide
Hope LG doesn't bench anyone in Evil
Jag was talking about Denial
I was taking about Evil
That's it :p
balmy wolf
He answered your question
"Since when silkthread is LG Evil sub?"
"Since before the drama with jolson at least"
Because thats when we found out
or at least when I found out
balmy wolf
They've never had a sub
or, never had to have a sub I should say
sometimes people just need sub
delicate sparrow
he probably just subs for scrims sometimes
rapid oxide
NRG never disappoint ๐
balmy wolf
they have a permanent addiction to failure somehow
apparently
he sat on scrim
with no experience
trying to see full extent of his incompetency though
rapid oxide
TSM had EFFECT at some point
Yeah btw
I don't expect them to be good tbh
NRG is cursed
I dunno, but other esport have this kind of team
balmy wolf
letting Ajax go was a good start, but how Dummy is still in the roster is somewhat of a puzzle at this point
according to some he apparently is an example of how politicking can you far in OW
rapid oxide
Ajax was a sick lucio back in kungarna
pseudo nimbus
NRG doesn't know how to run any game tbh
rapid oxide
Guess the team chemistry wasn't on point
balmy wolf
they are just shit on every level
shotcalling was ass
strats was also ass
nobody seems to play well
rapid oxide
Wonder if he enjoyed the taste of shaq ๐ 
balmy wolf
idk, maybe Dummy have a really good boi pussy that the upper management of NRG likes?
pseudo nimbus
is there any game that NRG is a part of that is even somewhat succesful?
rapid oxide
Smite
balmy wolf
NRG did went well in APAC premier but they beat tier Z Chinese teams
pseudo nimbus
that organization has just been complete ass ever since it was created
rapid oxide
Its really successful
balmy wolf
and Rocket League
balmy wolf
yes, it is still a thing
rapid oxide
I find soccer boring, RL even more
balmy wolf
everyone is getting hyped for Kungarna reunion but according to Babybay it is not going to be the same roster
and also that Kungarna was never a good dive team
and guess which meta is really good this time around
rapid oxide
Too busy getting ESEA Ban 
balmy wolf
I swear
I could probably do a better job rebuilding NRG
IDDQD, Harbleu, Meza, Grego, Graceful, Shake
anyone could lol
rapid oxide
Shake 
tough wind
๐ค
rapid oxide
You bad Ajax :^)
tough wind
i mean i was pretty fire in scrims tonight
rapid oxide
tough wind
๐
feral solar
tough wind
I improved more in 1 night than i had in 2 months i think
not bm towards NRG but i gel a lot with my old team
rapid oxide
nice to hear 
tough wind
me and many members of NRG just dont think the same way
about how the game is played
and thats ok
everyteam needs their own style so i hope grego can fit that
tough wind
some missing for now, we will see what happens
Connorj cant play right now he has a wrist injury
he might be out for a few months
tough wind
yah, ik a lot of people want to see connorj back
i wish he couldve tried out for team canada
feral solar
NRG gonna stick with this team until owl atleast you think? or more changes
rapid oxide
Lots of wrist injuries, wish more pros do wrist exercises
tough wind
no idea, we all agreed this was the roster + possibly graceful and that changed 1 week later
so who knows
feral solar
just esports things
tough wind
like with graceful they should be fine, i doubt they would make more changes
if graceful doesnt join
rapid oxide
They benched the wrong support 
tough wind
then they might have to make a change in the future
tough wind
graceful filled that very smart and vocal part seag left behind
balmy wolf
But dummy is just deadweight
rapid oxide
As Ajax said, he improved more sticking with Kun
tough wind
im not going to shit on my former team mates poelo, but i will say 1 more roster change couldnt cover all the problems
rapid oxide
๐
balmy wolf
I know, but its not like keeping him is helping lol
tough wind
what i mean by that is they arent "bad"
but
problems arent as easy as
this guy gets elims so he isnt the problem
like the mindless comments like "iddqd and harb need a better team"
rapid oxide
Ive gold damage
tough wind
everyone on that team needs to improve including myself and we all equally sucked
at each individual things
but were also very good at other things
we were improving as a unit no one was well behind another so to speak
rapid oxide
Also... For liquipedia purpose... Your contract expired?
feral solar
xD
rapid oxide
People on liquipedia were wondering ๐คท
edgy remnant
The tweet sounded like you were going into the inactive roster
tough wind
well for now yes
until i get released I am underNRG and will stream under NRG
which btw are a great org, and i love the dudes that own it
edgy remnant
yeah even from other games i hear NRG is a great organization that treats their players well
rapid oxide
Did you met Shaq?
balmy wolf
So why would they pickup someone like the TSM manager 
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
according to Harsha
he spoke to people associating with TSM
and none had good things to said about Derrick
tough wind
i never met shaq : (
balmy wolf
at this point I'll just assume NRG to be some sort of operation so that the Kings owner write his tax off
rapid oxide
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tough wind
i never met him
i mean shaq is an investor he isnt an owner
thats a very important distinction
shaq basically gets reports as other investors do about how their investment is doing
this is how basic business works
balmy wolf
mixup 
I wonder what's the contract that Seagull had with NRG now
and what's the buyout is
edgy remnant
wonder if shaq will do something like this for OW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYjoGU-gyz8
toxic yacht
RIP LGL, lol. Too bad that they were always less than the sum of their parts
balmy wolf
or rather
๐ฏ Hidan ๐ฏ
"shaqouflage"
he got screwed hardest in the 3 ways trade
lol
balmy wolf
only after NGE, OCS, and countless OMM where LG Loyal never make shit happen.
poor Hidan
probably the first true Ana/Zen god
feral solar
rewatching the nV game from last night and its still so great
toxic yacht
I remember watching NGE
and just complaining about how Hidan deserved better, lol
pretty sure that half of my hidan mentions in this channel are from the IMT vs LG and coL vs LG
vestal mortar
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feral solar
nights without ogn are the worst nights :/
velvet scarab
@toxic yacht what was the clip
feral solar
Twitter
rapid oxide
Mess with the best, die like the rest
feral solar
Beautiful tracking https://clips.twitch.tv/GiftedHumbleAniseEleGiggle
tough summit
toxic yacht
He's been here for a while
balmy wolf
Well, I officially dont care about Runaway anymore
rapid oxide
and
no worries guys
alicus will buy him
Twitter
joke aside, he's a sick tank, he's able to speak english
we will see him in a team very soon
floral harness
forest raven
kek
rapid oxide
NG 
delicate sparrow
c9 kaiser would be incredible tbh
"Edit: Apparently Leetajun thinks it's C9, just talked about it on stream :P"
wary falcon
rapid oxide
Another reason to stop cheering for them polo
balmy wolf
lol
iron cedar
clever wagon
PLS NA team get Kaiser ffs
I mean I don't mind Alicus getting to him first but NA could also use a good tank main
balmy wolf
Its C9
like
come on
I know everyone memes "LK 30 man roster 
"
But they dont need another tank
clever wagon
Kaiser needs to stop overeating grapes
last lantern
C9 Kasier Hyped
Gods is moving back to hog/dps
@balmy wolf they wont have another tank
balmy wolf
I was talking about LK dude
balmy wolf
Laser Kittenz
limber berry
Laser Kittenz
toxic yacht
LA Snizzlenose
LA Fischer
WO IST DER PIN? WO IST DER PIN?
I'll forever associate fischer with that, lol
toxic yacht
fuckin juv3nile was just bullying him by the end
pine star
The memes are real
rapid oxide
@balmy wolf Runaway Coach Nomi is purposely assigning Haksal on Winston instead of Genji because Haksal is currently known as the best in the role- Nomi and Yongbongtang themselves said Winston is much more important than Genji right now in the meta because Genji has a hard time against enemy Tracers and Soldiers
balmy wolf
cool
pine star
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED WITH KAISER
wintry matrix
he was picked up by a foreign org, probably c9
limber pine
/thread
balmy wolf
rather easy to put two and two together
C9 looking for tank
C9 has a KR coach
Kaiser is off Runaway and signed by a foreign org
of course, if this turned out to be fucking NRG, I will eat my shoes.
pine star
wintry matrix
there's no happy endings in OW esports
balmy wolf
I don't know
Dummy is still surviving in NRG there
and it had been for the last 4 months for whatever the fuck reason
wintry matrix
that's precisely another proof of how there's no happy endings
balmy wolf
I'd argue otherwise
Seagul is streaming, getting bucks while not having anything to do with the NRG trainwrecks
isn't that a happy ending?
for now at least
he certainly doesn't have to venture in a discord channel full of fans to try to get sympathy
wintry matrix
i'm partially jesting
balmy wolf
me too
and also, r/Overwatch back to highlight grave again
now that the experiment is over and the mod team decided that tell the userbase to "do their filter themselves with RES"
wintry matrix
well, wouldn't be surprised if that's what the spoken majority wanted
wait, aren't we still waiting a feedback post on it?
balmy wolf
don't know
i guess r/Overwatch is so deep in their hole that they realized that without highlight vids crawling across the page then r/overwatch is not getting the traffic it deserved?
kind of have no one to blame but themselves at this point ๐คท
limber pine
Final decisions have not been made @balmy wolf
RES and flair systems were being reworked and clarified regardless of what we do.
balmy wolf
idk lol, the first page of r/OW is just highlights after highlights now
do people realized that a full page full of highlights means that there's no highlights at all?
limber pine
Most redditors don't care for the philosophy of Reddit
@wintry matrix Feedback thread is coming probably next week. A lot of the team is traveling for the remainder of this one.
rapid oxide
@limber pine Feedback of what exactly? If you want the feedback to this week all you need to do is take the old one because it's the same
The only way to limit POTG is to delete the repetitive one and keep the original one
That's the only way to make people happy
I know there's a lot of submissions daily, but not moderate this kind of stuff and let "flairs" do the job is not a solution
I've to scroll 3 pages to find discussions
limber pine
nobody is saying that
rapid oxide
And this discussion is 1/2 days old already
balmy wolf
r/OW might just need more mods tbh
rapid oxide
I love you sprite, you are the best mod in r/ow
But you know that calendar of esport isnt gonna help
limber pine
help what?
rapid oxide
Promoting esport
When the trial was going, i saw lots of comments regarding esport
And up votes
I was impressed
brave spoke
rapid oxide
I want esport to succeed
Its a long term investment
Reason of why LoL n co still going
And they are 2010 games!
CSGO is relevant since 1999
Just saying
wintry matrix
tbh i don't think OW is really comparable to these cases
wanton bronze
Well aren't we sort of relying on the OWL at the moment
deep abyss
As someone who was subbed to r/ow since it was created, I just wish that mods would enforce their own rules. Any sort of crticism gets removed for low effort reasons, but real low effort content like voiceline threads or joke threads, which are against the shitposts and loweffort guidelines, stay
wanton bronze
with teams being dropped etc
rapid oxide
how to easly solve /r/ow: POTG only original, Fan Content OC, moderate low effort
its funny also /r/cow have more mods than /r/ow
and its 1/8
limber pine
define original
limber pine
so every single mercy pressing q is now banned from the sub
rapid oxide
should be
deep abyss
So are " what x hours on y look like" posts
pure kettle
what X hours on y look like, 10 mins of someone getting shit on.
k your joke has been done before.
rapid oxide
this is common
and should be deleted
this? never seen. soldier escape high noon by flexing
the 2nd was even entertaining to watch tbh. never seen.
wanton bronze
bit long maybe
rapid oxide
the first one is boring af
wintry matrix
the daily thread is a pretty good solution
blazing parrot
the threads during that trial week were pretty boring tbh
there were a few actual good ones
deep abyss
Also the "supports are gods, dps are litreally hitler" mentality is getting out of control
rapid oxide
because see the same highlight is better right?
blazing parrot
at least the convos in the highlights get interesting
blazing parrot
i usually open a highlight and go to the comments lol
rapid oxide
spamming hero voiceline?
wintry matrix
that's true, ocasionally there's a interesting discussion
rapid oxide
you know what's my top comment?
wintry matrix
even i who dislike it, hop in some time or another
rapid oxide
"Been here all along" 1k upvotes
limber pine
@rapid oxide that's a Reddit issue and not one exclusive to r/Overwatch. Most major subs have top comment issues
r/news is a big one
rapid oxide
not complaining for the comment
just telling at morgana the quality comment you find on highlights
blazing parrot
you occasionally find interesting things in highlight comments but not all the time yes
mabye limit only 5 highlights per 12 hours
rapid oxide
imo /r/ow should hire more mods
blazing parrot
hyperlol
rapid oxide
850k subs require more mods
mods have lifes too, i understand that they can't moderate everything and something go under their radar
but something has to be done
limber pine
something is being done
rapid oxide
telling people to flair? 
blazing parrot
@limber pine wait question so highlights can still fall under humor and not highlights?
limber pine
sometimes. We may end up removing or revamping humor
blazing parrot
like humor highlights etc?
limber pine
@rapid oxide again, flairs were being reworked regardless of what happens to highlights
rapid oxide
Changing flair name doesn't solve nothing
rapid oxide
yeah sorry
limber pine
not your fault; I enabled it ๐
rapid oxide
last words: pls dont give up on trialing! 
limber pine
we won't
rapid oxide
Thank you โฅ
limber pine
promise
Kaiser?
blazing parrot
what does kaiser main again?
blazing parrot
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i kinda wish they removed the whole rule of required to be default skins and such
i get why they do it but still :/
rapid oxide
i want team skin
blazing parrot
yes 
rapid oxide
maybe not personal
blazing parrot
lol whoever wins owl gets a team skin
rapid oxide
but i would like atleast 6 skin color
blazing parrot
kek
onyx shore
just let them use whatever skin they want
blazing parrot
ay
rapid oxide
it's confusing for new people
belive me
sometimes i miss who am i watching on 1st person
even with different skin
rapid oxide
but if i see red arms genji
onyx shore
if everyone use different heroes,and no more mirror comp