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#esports-discussion
limber pine
edgy remnant
even sprite wants in on the juice
limber pine
i love juice
edgy remnant
i only get the same comment back
pine star
Shit's lit af
edgy remnant
from the comments i assume he was salty about not getting on the committee or something?
cant remember if he was nominated though
balmy wolf
he didn't get nominated @edgy remnant
would be stupid for Blizzard to let him nominated
he isn't in the committee
doesn't mean that he won't try to influencing this shit
pine star
I want to know what he said before editing so bad lol
balmy wolf
he shat on r/compow
seems like the pros just really hate it or whatever
because they just realized how much of a jerk public opinion court is
limber pine
uneddit does bring up some interesting deleted comments though
pine star
balmy wolf
unexpected indeed
pine star
Will they bid for OWL tho
balmy wolf
they probably can
the amusing thing is that Hammer was a flipping operation
and now they are going full force
forest raven
"Hollywood Hammers' parent company TCL, which reported $16 billion in revenue in 2015"
Not bad
small basin
OWL is gonna kill the scene isnt it
supple nymph
rapid oxide
POGFUCKINGCHAMP
small basin
torb
rapid oxide
small basin
yea he tac visors good
toxic yacht
I love how twitch chat went from "MIRAGE LUL" to "MIRAGE P O G C H A M P"
he's playing a really good pharah right now...
vestal mortar
Yeah he's doing great today!
small basin
thats normal
toxic yacht
and his tac visors are good because he charges them so fast, which means that he's doing stuff
pine star
Lmfao
toxic yacht
flashbacks to KR where everyone called him ugly
toxic yacht
I always love watching twitch chat change their mind
even though mirage is doing work, I still think that he wasn't a good pickup
lol
pine star
Maybe he just needed to warm up
limber pine
twitch chat is the purest form of cancer
toxic yacht
jeff memes mostly happen with NA teams
forest raven
This has been a fun night of OW
forest raven
toxic yacht
so happy that my prediction was wrong
rapid oxide
Runaway won?
pine star
Naisu
rapid oxide
NOICE
toxic yacht
they won
small basin
they ran away
pine star
Get out.
toxic yacht
lmao
rapid oxide
Can you ban him pls?
toxic yacht
sprite, ban him pls
kindred kiln
the hell was this banner
edgy remnant
rip uncia
toxic yacht
lul
rapid oxide
pine star
vestal mortar
hehe
pine star
Harry was on soldier right?
rapid oxide
Chip sombra 
pine star
Chips Sombra 
forest raven
Dude Chips' Sombra on Cyka was π
toxic yacht
too bad that the camera was never on harry 76
pine star
Were they running solo healer or someone else was on LΓΊcio?
pine star
Old EnVy starts
forest raven
Yeah Hollywood was Chips Ana and Harry 76
It's a darn thing when your Lucio is also a top 5 76
pine star
They used to run solo healer with Harry on 76 way back in the day
toxic yacht
yeah, but that was pre ana nerfs
rapid oxide
Sombra. 
pine star
That was pre Ana meta
toxic yacht
with tracer who is self sufficient
pine star
With Chips on Mercy
toxic yacht
ah, you mean those days
pine star
Yeah
toxic yacht
yee, they ran that too
forest raven
So
If AOD takes a map off LH
Rogue only needs to beat LH to go through
If AOD gets swept
rapid oxide
"only"
forest raven
Rogue needs to 3-1
balmy wolf
this is so stressful as a Rogue fan
rapid oxide
Misfits flashback
balmy wolf
Taimou actually mocked Rogue because they went 35-0 before InternetHulk and then 1-1 after InternetHulk got in
rapid oxide
and fuck na
rapid oxide
Taimou "My job here is done" EFFECT "But you did nothing" Taimou " "
balmy wolf
I just hate how nV got the easier group again
and now that they beat Meta Athena
it is going to be just a breeze for them
pine star
π 
Rogue? π this is EnVy π you can keep Hulk π
toxic yacht
this is almost the same group like last season lmao
balmy wolf
it is the same group
toxic yacht
last year they had MVP Infinity
forest raven
Blue's guaranteed in the playoffs
toxic yacht
this year it's rhinos gaming wings
balmy wolf
are the Rogue players from last year getting divine punished for beating LH in APAC?
feels like it with all these roster change and shit group
@toxic yacht they are so exchangable that it is not even funny
forest raven
X6 vs RunAway determines who goes to the playoffs
Unless Uncia 3-0's Blue
Which I don't think is gonna happen
rapid oxide
Sad to see uncia dropping
forest raven
KDU is season 1 KDP now
rapid oxide
yeah
forest raven
rapid oxide
forest raven
Uncia can still make it to playoffs
If X6 lose to RunAway
And they 3-0 Blue, they're in
limber pine
gotta make a Hollywood Hammers flair
rapid oxide
there's already
clever wagon
So who's best Hanzo pub, Ironaids or Wraxu
rapid oxide
Ironwho? Whoraxu?
clever wagon
I said pub
rapid oxide
Daddy Alicus (read reply) spreading some positivity and clarifications https://twitter.com/GlitchedLotus/status/864341213276626946
Twitter
pine star
I've seen a shit ton of highlight videos from this Wraxu fellow on my YouTube recommendations
I've refused to watch any of them
rapid oxide
Still... Who?
forest raven
Streamer
rapid oxide
Ive a good reason to forget his name already
pine star
If you're talking about OWL, yeah, no relegations
pine star
So probably not a challenger league per se
rapid oxide
On a economic pov, franchise is better
pine star
Don't act like franchising is new
devout raft
Riot Games does not do it well
When you have teams coming to you and saying they cant make money from being in the LCS
that is not well
pine star
Except Riot Games is also going franchising
rapid oxide
Pretty sure NBA and NHL are doing very well
limber pine
πΏ
rapid oxide
And tey are franchised
devout raft
I get your point about accessability Freelo
but, OWL hopes to solve that with a draft and combine
it all depends
on how players go into combine
for OWL
pine star
There's this interesting statement by Blizzard Activision CEO
devout raft
and there can be minor leagues and events.
pine star
He says OWL is the pinnacle of the competitive Over scene
rapid oxide
Slots can expanded, just saying
pine star
As in, not the only thing
Maybe he means just the eastern leagues
Maybe we'll get a minor league
limber pine
Too much is still unknown to make a solid statement about stuff
devout raft
luck
a good club or exposure at a young age.
are you american freelo?
or european
how much do you know about american sports.
and franchising
limber pine
@balmy wolf That's a statement based on no facts
rapid oxide
If you say A or B i suppose italian
rapid oxide
NFL makes more money than soccer, and it's franchised
devout raft
you're basing that of 0 facts
pine star
This is pointless lmfao
limber pine
uh huh
limber pine
k bye
onyx shore
which soccer? mls?
devout raft
bye
pine star
devout raft
oh wow
rapid oxide
devout raft
that kind of bye
pine star
Rekt
limber pine
i don't joke
devout raft
i think they were trying to make a point
limber pine
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
forest raven
When esports is involved
forest raven
Sprite leaves no survivors
rapid oxide
Mls yeah
devout raft
Blizzard are walking into the only-partly-known here. I question the solidarity of any argument that comes down on either side of that fence hard
rapid oxide
@onyx shore
onyx shore
my concern is the buy-ins for the slot
devout raft
"blizzard have a perfect plan" is bollocks. "OWL will fail" is also bollocks π
limber pine
^^^^
devout raft
its probably inflated
onyx shore
probably
devout raft
if that figure is even real.
it will force orgs to get investment
or not bother
which is a shitscreen for crap orgs.
which is...a good thing
depending on how high the barrier is
forest raven
"something related to the overwatch competitive scene is going to happen in Q3 of 2017"
onyx shore
imho,i'd rather have blizzard organize 2-3 major tournaments a year
like TI version of overwatch
rapid oxide
Don't want to be repetitive but idgaf how they will make it, but make it successful so i can shit on other esport π
Hahaha
devout raft
if you go to a owner and say that 10m(random number) for a slot
part of which goes into team expenses
is a 5 year investment
pine star
It's not going to be a year long league
devout raft
then...that's not a bad thing
pine star
So we'll have minor events
onyx shore
but who will attend this minor events?
rapid oxide
Nate said off-season are equally important
devout raft
basically - how will blizzard make OWL return investment for a franchise owner, over how long
how will they grow the audience to help that happen
2 key questions
for a big money sports owner or someone who wants into OWL
devout raft
yeah, for sure.
limber pine
:/
devout raft
but it's do-able
onyx shore
i never played starcraft,but i read on COW how blizzard butchered SC2 pro scene,i'm kinda nervous,honestly
rapid oxide
Sc2 died for other reason
devout raft
E League
and see all the goods and bads.
they own their own broadcast infrastructure, technically, in MLG.
which is a big +
rapid oxide
HIREZ 
devout raft
Hi Rez helps make SMITE sustainable for small to medium sized orgs in esport
and shouldnt be sniffed at for that π
onyx shore
do you think envyus got the money for OWL spot?
rapid oxide
HiRez is a shit company
pine star
Hastr0 seems pretty confident and interested
devout raft
I'm just talking about the eSport bit Vace
pine star
So they probably have the backing
rapid oxide
It kinda translate haha
onyx shore
i see
devout raft
If I was starting an eSports org
Hamsports
and wanted to break even quick
i'd consider SMITE as one of the games to get into
rapid oxide
/r/crappyoffbrand hahaha
onyx shore
for me,i like valve models,4 major tournaments a year
forest raven
Hollywould hammehs
onyx shore
3 which are arranged by other organization using valve name
1 using their own resources
rapid oxide
Polywood Hammeh
devout raft
nice draw
onyx shore
crowdsourcing the prizepool
devout raft
works gud for majors.
tis true
but in CS you then have the million online cups and pro leagues too
so many events.
rapid oxide
Working so well org barely invest in dota l9l
devout raft
DOTA a bit better
rapid oxide
The numbers of organizations in dota can be counted with one hand
onyx shore
unless you have the backing like Invictus gaming (backed by #1 richest man in china)
devout raft
otherwise yes, profit is a thing compared to travel costs
if the TO or publisher dont pay.
rapid oxide
Ans iirc invictus got benched
rapid oxide
Am i wrong?
devout raft
or families
forest raven
Hammers' parent company had 16b in revenue in 2015 so they should be able to buy in
onyx shore
@rapid oxide to be clear,you mean organization is like "natus vincere" or "Evil genius" ?
devout raft
probably no Hollywood Hamsters any time soon
rapid oxide
Maybe 2 hands
onyx shore
well
back then there's a team YP for dota2
i wonder if there'll be one for overwatch
rapid oxide
Youporn?
onyx shore
yeah
rapid oxide
Yes
devout raft
YP got banned from ESL events in cs i think
rapid oxide
We have one in ow
supple nymph
where do you get all the weab emojiis?
devout raft
dont see the brand in any large OW events
rapid oxide
But have shitty results
forest raven
onyx shore
hahahahah
rapid oxide
Like... Tier 4
devout raft
brb buying hollywoodesports.com
forest raven
Linked from hammers' Twitter I believe
rapid oxide
LUL
limber pine
dat mobile link though
devout raft
let me know if i'm arguing like a stroppy prick btw
i get a bit het up on this subject π
supple nymph
π
devout raft
not really, more esports related π
good to see non-endemic sponsors of the size of gilette in the space
zealous peak
im curious to know how does one find a team to join?
ripe marlin
@zealous peak #lf-players-na
zealous peak
would that also be a good place to seek out and join an esports team
forest raven
You can make a team with friends, or join a small team, or just be a ladder warrior for long enough to get noticed @zealous peak
zealous peak
ok i was thinking of joining a esports college bu none are in my area
i try the advice given here
i'll i mean
wintry matrix
jesus christ the NV match
clever wagon
Nvm
ripe marlin
lol
zealous peak
@ripe marlin i haven't played since last season so currently unranked. Previous season i was plat and gold. Trying to focus more on the game since I am leaving the military.
ripe marlin
ok well my suggestion would be to keep working at it if you want to find that next level play or compete at a higher level with a team find a group of none toxic players that can work together and just practice together as much as possible and do placement matches together and see where you guys end up
wow effect was a monster today
supple nymph
ripe marlin
lol
jagged crater
when did effect join envy?
balmy wolf
before APEX
jagged crater
so based on effect's performance , i take it Lui is the backup?
solid spear
Rip Lui
toxic yacht
yee
busy wasting resources and warming benches for the rest of apex, presumably
apparently Effect also plays an insane genji
but then again, it's like every korean DPS has a ridiculous pocket genji
jagged crater
good for envy i guess, they were missing that insane genji/tracer
toxic yacht
dunno about pharah though
the fact that taimou has been trying to fill her probably means something
and I legit have no idea about effects pool
jagged crater
tracer is like 80% of the pro meta pick rate so if effect's great at tracer, that's all that's needed atm
but if meta decides to switch up again, we'lll see
supple nymph
the fact that taimou has been trying to fill her probably means something
( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
balmy wolf
it will next week
supple nymph
they did release the end date - may 29th
guess it's time to stop playing for a few weeks
supple nymph
more throwing than usual
better to cut your losses
unless you have a chance at top 500
rapid oxide
too much throwers
late comp is shit
i find the season concept pretty stupid tbh
because people throw last days
because they reach already what they need
solid spear
My favorite time to play comp
Zero pressure and people arent as toxic
Cuz generally people dont care quite as much
jagged crater
according to effect's overwatch profile, looks like he plays tracer mostly
but in qp & comp that is
balmy wolf
what has been going down in the community, Ive been away for a little bit, fill me in π
pine star
Blizzard are trying to sabotage their competitive scene according to everyone, Slasher is a self entitled prick, teams disbanding drama, and Movistar Riders missed the opportunity to be the Hollywood Movistars
Wew, that was good
I should make a podcast
pine star
Of course 
fleet idol
is slasher still banned from reddit?
solid spear
SG knows so much .-.
fleet idol
what a nice person
pine star
Slasher summed up: "DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM??!
digital pond
meh
I would get bored of delay + prep'ed plays
I get it would make it easier for casters from ZP's point of view but idk
supple nymph
@dusty surge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7QL9bpFMX8
dusty surge
I've legit never seen him before.
supple nymph
i think when he was in sc2 his original reddit account got banned and it fucked over his company https://dotesports.com/general/ongamers-reddit-ban-kim-rom-slasher-508
but i wasnt there when that happened
dusty surge
Ahh, so he comes from the SC eSports world.
solid spear
yeah I thought Grace
and ZP and Pyyyour just confirmed Kungarna in the Melee
the boys back together
balmy wolf
Cant wait to see my boy ConnorJ become a great hooker once again
vestal mortar
Oh boy
supple nymph
is your avatar a seagull?
balmy wolf
I wonder what their former coach thought about it
vestal mortar
Yeah it is
balmy wolf
since Kungarna's coach said that the team is a mess
or was
and also that they got blacklisted from pro scrims because of trolling (?)
your avatar is your face though 
@vestal mortar
vestal mortar
π
balmy wolf
solid spear
nice to see the boys at Kungarna are cool enough with each other to come back after all this time
balmy wolf
I don't know about Kungarna reforming tbh
supple nymph
lol seagull is in the twitch chat
vestal mortar
Yeah I'm happy to see them again
supple nymph
wow lots of pros in the twitch chat
balmy wolf
I always liked the name and logo
vestal mortar
They were great, I liked watching them play
balmy wolf
just the team in general tbh
Team Canada might stream at one point I think - Surefour
\o/
Agilities + Sure4 dps duo
vestal mortar
π
balmy wolf
vestal mortar
vestal mortar
Man Seagull is on the ball with this one
balmy wolf
vestal mortar
I wholeheartedly agree, great publicity, hype and building interest in esports
balmy wolf
As I said yesterday, having all the pros and streamers in the tryouts/committee host the USA Tryouts
Would bring in so many views
Like just having calvin and ster host is enough but having all those pros too
ππ»
pure kettle
aye
gotta get ppl invested into the team
can't just expect ppl to be chearing away when the first time you see the team play is the OWL lol
toxic yacht
well. here's Reinforce's take on the whole situation
balmy wolf
he was being a devil's advocate, btw
toxic yacht
ah, okay
balmy wolf
but like Seagull said, Team USA is missing the forest for the trees
supple nymph
is esports really for you if getting streamed or twtich chatted or reddited bothered you that much?
and we're talking about one scrim
balmy wolf
and also, Team Canada is going to stream
pure kettle
i laugh when ppl bring in the idea of reddit.
balmy wolf
so fuck Team USA I guess
pure kettle
regardless of if u stream or not, if you do shit in the live matches
you'll get meme'd
learn to drown it out like a real pro.
lol
rapid oxide
People still care about USA scrim? 
pure kettle
made the point yesterday
if your watching chat while scrimming
your doing something wrong anyways. lol
digital pond
I mean tryouts stream is different then what seagull talked about too
Cause streaming tryout is not streaming scrims.
pure kettle
right thats all ppl really wanted to begin with
digital pond
They would also need to make sure other country teams wanna be streamed.
But tryouts idc
it's tryouts
pure kettle
exactly. π
ripe marlin
YEAH
balmy wolf
since the meme "Kyky coaching Team USA out of group stage" is already bubbling
supple nymph
PLAT LEAGUE
pure kettle
wait what o.o
pine star
Kungarna came back together?
balmy wolf
not really, more like Pyyyour is saying Blizzard is doing some sort of structure like Baseball's feeder leaguie
pure kettle
ahhh
balmy wolf
and also yes, Kungarna will be in OMM qualifier
supple nymph
what's a feeder league
balmy wolf
I'm not quite sure about Kungarna's return though.
supple nymph
like lol feeders?
pine star
balmy wolf
@supple nymph yes
pine star
Too bad it's not a lan so we won't see our boys wearing shades
balmy wolf
Kungarna might get fucked, tbh
they was competitive in a LAN where all the tier 1 teams are elsewhere
rapid oxide
toxic yacht
If surefour legit isn't on canada or at least trying out I'm reporting the commitee for fucking throwing
rapid oxide
Daddy alicus is on fire
pure kettle
are they gonna stream canada's tryouts?
balmy wolf
tfw Laser Kittenz and NIP enters EU LCS
supple nymph
who cares
balmy wolf
@pure kettle will stream scrim
pure kettle
kk π
rapid oxide
Alicus have fat money
Surely for owl too
Wondering how much fking money he has holy
balmy wolf
ALicus did said he got a really promising partner that willing to invested in
in advance stage as well
rapid oxide
Bill Gates
supple nymph
Notch
pine star
LK in EU LSCS?
digital pond
"I gotta get out stylosa's voice haunts my dream"
pine star
U fkn wot m8?
digital pond
Alicus said he was starting his brand for esport
toxic yacht
"I'd rather not participate than work with Sty"
toxic yacht
"If Sty and Num fuck it up I had nothing to do with it"
digital pond
OW can def not be your only game.
balmy wolf
pine star
Yeah but that was unexpected
digital pond
Alicus has fuck you money sulli
balmy wolf
so Kruise kicked himself off for a coach in the committee
digital pond
The dude can probably buy a second OW team
pine star
Papa Alicus 
toxic yacht
inb4 YourOverwatch
pine star
balmy wolf
I cant think of any other UK coaches off the top of my head
And Kruise trusts Hayes
and knows him
so yeah probably him
fucking stylosa
supple nymph
why do you hate stylosa so much he's raising the average sr
rapid oxide
Alicus: "Yesterday OWL, today EU LCS, tomorrow... The entire world"
pine star
LK FIFA team
pine star
Spree 
supple nymph
wasnt he the positive guy
balmy wolf
Oh shit bois
what if the next 2 to drop are IMT and GFE?
Then we'll have
BINGOOOO
rapid oxide
"It's a top-down structure with a big priority on building long-term partnerships with teams and of reorganizing teams as integral parts of the ecosystem. I'm not going to talk about the financial part of this because numbers are ultimately where everyone gets tripped up. But it's well aligned with what we think are the effective, long-term ways to build sustainable esports ecosystems."
No polo, noah seems positive about it
And title is pretty clickbait
gentle shuttle
any of u stoners got that seagull-jeff kaplan-babbyrage copy pasta
rapid oxide
Twitter
balmy wolf
Yeah so thats 2/3 teams confirmed now
Plouk, Kryw, Flippy, Hidan, Kabal, Spree
booked it
No wait Custa confirmed Fnatic on stream
i mean at this point confirmation is kind of useless
the cats are out of the bag
digital pond
Damn
supple nymph
REEE
digital pond
NRG logic was always the same
vestal mortar
OMG
rapid oxide
Shitty NA mentality
digital pond
"Nah it can;t be that we have to work out it like IMT did. We just need new players"
"Can't be we have to work hard like Selfless did to become this good"
balmy wolf
Twitter
rapid oxide
That's why NA team will always be mediocre
balmy wolf
AJAX is out of NRG
rapid oxide
Slow reign
balmy wolf
digital pond
1 minute late
digital pond
That's why polo screamed about dummy still being there
balmy wolf
time to bring Joemeister in
rapid oxide
But it was me! Vace!
rapid oxide
Ok then keep losing lol
digital pond
He's the survivor of NRG
rapid oxide
Since NRG are used to be living memes anyway
rapid oxide
Why stop now
digital pond
Lmao
toxic yacht
rip ajax
rapid oxide
Nice
toxic yacht
kungarna reunion
balmy wolf
inb4 Kungarna getting shat on, and the meme about the Koreans continues.
blazing parrot
hey can i repost the ajax tweet 
rapid oxide
Kungarna had better results than NRG had since Atlantic
digital pond
Found it
balmy wolf
winning a LAN consisted of LG, Complexity, and IMT isn't the best claim to fame tbh
and of course I will eternally hammer the point home about how Runner > Ajax
even if Ajax pretend otherwise .
rapid oxide
Ajax is not the problem
vestal mortar
^
solid spear
Ajax gone before Dummy
balmy wolf
NRG has bigger problem, yeah. But Ajax wasn't helping
solid spear
rapid oxide
True
balmy wolf
Overwatch 
Monthly Melee - May
Qualifiers teams announced:
Rise Nation
Renegades
Evil Geniuses
Tempo Storm
NRG
YGGP?
GFE
πΊπΈ Kungarna
blazing parrot
get better supports
solid spear
I thinkits Graceful
blazing parrot
for nrg
balmy wolf
WE BACK IN IT
supple nymph
who is nrg gonna trial for 5th and 6th
rapid oxide
YGG$ 
balmy wolf
i'm curious to see NRG's 5th and 6th
blazing parrot
same
toxic yacht
inb4 they beg grego again
solid spear
honestly if Ajax is gone might as well drop the man Dummy too
blazing parrot
same curiousity with c9
rapid oxide
Most likely 8th lmao
solid spear
balmy wolf
also, if Kungarna is back, and supposedly Pyyyour is also in it, and he is Splyce Lucio, then who the fuck is going to play between him and Ajax?
toxic yacht
oh yeah, joe is free now
rapid oxide
Give me old kungarna pls
blazing parrot
hey polo i hear nrg are looking for a replacement masters lucio
balmy wolf
Why would pyyyour be in Kungarna?
rapid oxide
CAN WAIT TO SEE MY BOI BABYBAY CHEATING pogchimp
balmy wolf
because he was the part of
supple nymph
solid spear
thats irrelevant Wolf
balmy wolf
it is relevant
you don't just swap shotcaller
The only reason I brought up Splyce is because iRemix mykL and Babybay were on it
rapid oxide
Not really
balmy wolf
especially one you haven't play with for months
solid spear
Pyyyour never shot called for Kungarna so its irrelevant
balmy wolf
what i am wondering is that between Ajax and Pyyyour, should you pick someone that you have familiarity with (Pyyyour) or old friend who you haven't play for months (Ajax)?
mind you, the Kungarna reunion doesn't neccessarily need full 6 reunions
Holy
Shiteroni
solid spear
they probably have more familiarity with Ajax lol plus ConnorJ and B1am never even played with Pyyyour
solid spear
and you were watching the Overview no Wolf? Pyyyour literally said hes not accepting team offers now
balmy wolf
Dropping ajax from nrg
because he dropped him from tsm
@solid spear doesn't mean that he won't play for Kungarna
we all know how people like to deny shits and then shits happen anyway
right now i'm just wondering
I personally don't get the hype between Kungarna's return, given that the last time we saw them was in a mediocre LAN
going in 2nd in a tourny with sterling name such as Complexitity, Renegades, Luminosity, Faze and Citizen 7
is kind of underwhelming
solid spear
they had talent they were up and coming...and with us literally never seeing ConnorJ and B1am after NGE, Splyce being so so and NRG sturggling them coming back is a cool thing
balmy wolf
they can't dive, btw
rapid oxide
Why NRG is trying so hard to be a god damn meme all the time?
vestal mortar
Ryujehong π
velvet scarab
dummy being a god 
solid spear
@vestal mortar I was waiting for you to magically show up when he mentioned him lmao
vestal mortar
I didn't magically show up, I have been here for a while. :C
balmy wolf
Were you into the scene back during the WP? @balmy wolf
I was in the scene since Atlantic Showdown.
so yes.
rapid oxide
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balmy wolf
Then kungarna just wasnt your team
a lot of us liked watching them play
And they were an up and coming team
vestal mortar
It's true, sometimes I just read all the things said here and decide I have nothing to contribute.
balmy wolf
I get the appeal of Kungarna, but I'm not quite sure about hyping for them
since it is a dangerous trail
cough NRG cough
rapid oxide
Mine is Soe
vestal mortar
lol
vestal mortar
I like Kungarna, I will be excited to see them play! π
rapid oxide
Kungarna was seriously amazing
balmy wolf
you really need to take into account WPE's level of competition though
it was literally a tier 2 LAN
so I'd just hope people hold off their hype horse first
before it plunges into a cliff
rapid oxide
With little to none practice
vestal mortar
I just was so excited about the storyline of an up and coming team appearing out of nowhere and winning!
balmy wolf
You're taking this so seriously wolf lol
rapid oxide
No one expects too much for AMM
balmy wolf
We're just hyped to see them play again
vestal mortar
No fun allowed in esports π
balmy wolf
that's what people said about NRG's return
and look what happened.
just approach like the Brits does, really
I didnt care about NRG so not my problem
i have no horse in the race, i just don't want to see people getting disappointed
rapid oxide
Love you Reign
balmy wolf
Unless they drop out of quals
vestal mortar
Jeeze
balmy wolf
I wont be dissapointed
solid spear
how many teams get through quals?
balmy wolf
8
I'm curious to see the new Renegades
they picked up Primodulce and Zacharee
2 are quite good in their own right
rapid oxide
Ppl said primo is a sick rein
balmy wolf
Only 2 teams get through quals
I'd bet on EG, Renegades, Rise Nation and YGGP to be top 4 of the qualifier
EG is extremely underrated, so is Rise Nation, while Renegades and YGGP seems to be a cut above but not by a long shot
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Participating teams:
Team Liquid
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Immortals
Selfless Gaming
Counter Logic Gaming
Tempo Storm
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solid spear
I wouldnt sleep on Tempo
sly lagoon
supple nymph
supple nymph
Leak
balmy wolf
Yeah lul
this is reminding me of Hulk saying on twitter that he didn't sign an extension but everyone knows that he get kicked out of nV
Obviously
rapid oxide
Dummy still in
supple nymph
@rapid oxide the night is young
rapid oxide
Shaq π π¦
balmy wolf
He's already gone back to sweden?
yeah
Splyce was playing with their Genji in Sweden
so this is a rehash of Mendo ringing
the hell
They had graceful for ages I was so sure they have moved him
especially since he is the top of the NA leaderboards
and not EU
Splyce had the 5 in a team house
but Graceful was going back to Sweden at some point
visa? idk
and since Splyce dropped them
no teamhouse for any Kungarna guy to play on
Are you sure he wasnt in the US
rapid oxide
Pyyyour said on The Overview that an ex-Splyce player would be playing with NRG so it could be him.
balmy wolf
It makes very little sense to me that he would be in EU for so long playing to NA for scrims and tournies
and also playing exclusively NA ranked
this is conjecture for the most part, going off from some of the info we know
and ringing from EU isn't unheard of
just that more difficult because of ping
see: Sypeh, Shadowburn, Mendokusaii
rapid oxide
EFFECT
balmy wolf
Well yeah it isnt unheard of
I would accept it if it wasnt for him playing NA ranked instead of EU
last time Splyce was playing Graceful was sort of nonfactor because Graceful was in Sweden
and also, Shadowburn also play NA ranked too
and he got arguably the worst possible ping out of every pros
so that doesn't particularly clear anything
I always feel like SDB was the exception
balmy wolf
Playing on high ping for almost a year and played almost exclusively NA ranked
btw, Ghost Gaming CSGO is playing relegation vs RUSH
they might get into ESL pro for next season
Ye he EU
vestal mortar
confirmed!
balmy wolf
told ya.
@solid spear if you actually notice, NA teams never really use native talents
it is always EU guys that get the ringing
Tempo got TwoEasy, Renegades had Sypeh, NRG had Mendo and others
solid spear
well I mean theres not that many NA guys that arent on teams already
balmy wolf
Silkthread, anyone
balmy wolf
NA ladder is a bit desolate now with mostly EU and smurfs on it so it is not a good source of ringers/potential talents either
Kephrii
solid spear
plus all the teams that werent recently dropped besides coL were filled with EU players
I guess Fnatic wasnt but theyre sticking together it seems
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf Kephrii had ringed for TL before
so it is actually not out of the question
solid spear
._.
balmy wolf
I was luling at him being #3 and dropping to #33 after like 2 losses
solid spear
balmy wolf
He spent probably somewhere upward of 4 hours grinding from #10 to #3
and it all came crashing down in like 30 minutes
solid spear
good
digital pond
I mean at the same time a lot of NA teams want projectile dps to ring
And a lot of those available and good are EU
digital pond
Yeah pretty much
solid spear
there arent that many good NA projectile dps and the few there are are on teams
so yeah
digital pond
^
balmy wolf
I'm so curious as to where Linkzr will go man
EU have enough talents to make a couple of teams out of this tbh
I already suggested another French super team
with the remnants of Dig
Someone on flames discord mentioned that french team a few days ago
so good
like legit
such a good team
all french, perfect roles
just a matter of cohesion
except for Spree
digital pond
I think the more spot in EU are made more team there will be.
They have people to fill in OWL EU slots.
They just need to actually get the slots.
balmy wolf
but he can speak French
so it is kind of a moot point
so
according to Babybay
on his stream
he had been putting Kungarna back together
but not going to be the same roster
spring lintel
balmy wolf
yeah
supple nymph
balmy wolf
definitely not Ajax