dafran isn't in the world cup
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
kek
gentle shuttle
don't tell ore'
pine star
Rip Denmark chances to do shit
wintry matrix
at this point i'd prefer a Lan with a team representing each country, even tho i love World Cups
inb4 only Korea gives a shit or two about it
supple nymph
i just want to see a lan period
gentle shuttle
word
wintry matrix
i'm already seeing myself tilting when Rogue BMs everyone when they reach the finals (and them ofc get stomped by SK)
toxic yacht
...why aren't the WC groups pinned?
rapid oxide
VACation 
toxic yacht
oh yeah sorry, group F, and it tilts me that I want both canada and russia there
balmy wolf
Its top 2 teams isnt it?
toxic yacht
8 teams in the playoffs
only the best team per group
gets to blizzcon
the others only play at their local stages
rapid oxide
Because polo did it 
balmy wolf
?
balmy wolf
I dont know who im more interested in watching in the playoffs tbh
rapid oxide
Nvm plo, shitty discord app
balmy wolf
Im interested in Canada because Agilities + Surefour DPS combo
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
But Russia because SDB, Cooller, Unfixed
rapid oxide
Im wet
balmy wolf
wintry matrix
what's the context of the image?
and i'm too more hyped about the playoffs than the actual cup
balmy wolf
what image?
rapid oxide
Noticeable org from doto
wintry matrix
the "how to win money with esports? soontm" image
toxic yacht
Defense Of The Oncients
wintry matrix
wait, is a br/pt org?
wintry matrix
Bliss hits>>>>>
pine star
Slasher 
pure kettle
to encourage excitement for your team....stream it?
toxic yacht
Slasher making himself even more unpopular than he already is
pure kettle
i get not streaming constantly but like.....this seems like a good tiem to ACTUALLY stream. lol
pure kettle
why?
solid spear
Hes not on the committe so he cant ensure shit
pine star
It's an internal process
He is right
Want to hype up the team?
Make a badass montage when the roster is full, with highlights and Rocky Balboa music and all the good stuff
Streaming scrims doesn't seem right
pine star
Still.
solid spear
I mean I dont care Im just saying Slasher has zero say in this
pure kettle
not 100% sure cause I don't know sports worth shit.
can't you publically go watch NFL tryouts?
pine star
@Oreofestar#6697 you would be surprised
solid spear
Its between Kyky, Jkap and the players to decide that
pine star
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I'm just saying
There are better ways to hype up team USA
Just my opinion I guess
solid spear
I mean I get why players wouldnt want it streamed I also get Jkap when he says these teams arent final, they arent scrims, theyre tryouts and it no real stratscould be formed when they havent even played yet...doesnt matter too much in the end
but I dont give af about a montage personally I just wanted to know the players trying out
balmy wolf
personally I just feel underappreciated for doing the absolute best I could to hype that shit up
and then "nope, we won't stream try out because we can do montage instead"
bad ass montage will go straight to the trash if NA get fucked.
nobody learned from Dummy's mistakes it seems.
balmy wolf
make no mistake, those montages were designed to get people hyped about NRG
and look at NRG now
balmy wolf
it is a try out, there's no sucking involves in here
pure kettle
maybe that would help them pick out the best players?
to be publically under pressure?
lol
balmy wolf
like, it is a glorified NA all stars scrim
nobody is going to run Meta Athena strat shit
pine star
You really want to be under Twitch chat's pressure? Doesn't seem like a good plan to
To me*
balmy wolf
Twitch chat will crucifying them even harder if this doesn't pan out
and who gives a shit about twitch chat
pure kettle
I would, cant handle twitch then you can't handle the final round of a capture point 2-2 world series match
lol
pine star
Completely irrelevant
balmy wolf
seriously, the more secretive this process is, the more a. you are missing out on bringing casuals in and b. you are open yourself for more criticism
pure kettle
how do you figure lol
talking about pressure here
we're alrdy pissed at Blizzard for being secretive
so........
ya.
pine star
You are comparing Twitch chat to 2CP
pure kettle
actually what I mean is "Teams are already pissed for Blizzard being secretive"
pine star
Makes literally zero sense
pure kettle
and then they go and be secretive.
balmy wolf
he is saying that if Team USA can't withstand the pressure of twitch chat doing their shit
pure kettle
thinks a pro team that can't handle a twitch chat during tryouts would make a good team ๐ค
balmy wolf
then can you trust them to clutch it up in a situation that demand them to clutch?
pine star
Still irrelevant
pine star
But not gonna argue anymore
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
The committee has the final say
Whatever they decide, we just have to accept it and move on
balmy wolf
you were the one that said that twitch chat is relevant though
and who look at twitch chat while playing
pure kettle
well i mean
balmy wolf
pure kettle
your thinking the twitch chat mattered was also irrelevant.
because pros....wouldnt be looking at the chat during a match.
lol
pine star
He said to be "publicly under pressure" would help them pick the best players
pure kettle
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
pure kettle
it....wouldnt matter.
balmy wolf
you can hide twitch chat, for the most part
pure kettle
was the original point.
lol
your the one that started this by stating the chat mattered
-.-
pine star
I never said the chat mattered
balmy wolf
pure kettle
balmy wolf
public pressure if there's one will come from r/compow
pure kettle
pine star
That's just how masses works
pine star
EscA for example?
pure kettle
are you telling me.
they should stream the tryouts because ppl will go on reddit and talk about how bad ppl did?
as opposed to ppl watching a series match and then going onto reddit complaining about how bad they did?
o.o
pine star
Twitch chat creates a meme and people just run along with it without knowing the implications behind it
pure kettle
ight.
pine star
Let's just leave it at it man
pure kettle
๐ช Exit Stage Left.
pine star
Discord mobile is too shit to have a proper argument
pure kettle
๐ฌ
pine star
The keyboard app has literally crashed three times because this shit app lags so bad
supple nymph
pure kettle
rofl
supple nymph
versed gate
this game fucking sucks
limber pine
what did slasher say this time?
versed gate
idk slasher always says something
balmy wolf
@limber pine http://imgur.com/svRHXUe
balmy wolf
gotta love the low blow with "NA's first OW LAN"
versed gate
lmao
balmy wolf
@versed gate any tips on surviving under dive? Seems like this meta is pretty fucked for Ana
@limber pine so much for all my efforts trying to shill for the Team USA tryouts stream
limber pine
I don't see the big deal in streaming the scrims. It'd probably garner some interest, and I'd doubt any other team would really gain any signifigant information from it
but what do i know
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
balmy wolf
the amount of free PR and opportunity for exposuire is just immense
supple nymph
@limber pine Slasher and KyKy have 2 votes JKap has 1 ๐ฆ
balmy wolf
The upsides outweight the downsides
supple nymph
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limber pine
curse you @supple nymph
pine star
Ster 
supple nymph
kinda sucks for JKap if they are just gonna do whatever and if he doesnt like it he can go cry to blizz
might as well not even be on the committee
gentle shuttle
^
limber pine
pretty much
supple nymph
did anything like this happen last year? i didnt follow it
balmy wolf
there were no committees last year
ripe marlin
lol
balmy wolf
lol
solid spear
Uh idk if someone said this already but Emongg and Gods werent invited for tryouts
limber pine
who was?
supple nymph
seagull but he had streaming obligations
digital pond
Surprised either of them weren't invited.
Especially Gods
I would feel like they would consider every person of a similar role.
digital pond
I'm sure other dps mains will be trying out for his position
But with little information who knows.
solid spear
I mean at the very least youd think Retzi and Grim no?
digital pond
I would think so at least.
solid spear
Maybe Hydration
digital pond
I fear a bit of detachement right now since even though kyKy is nV coach they haven't gotten to play in NA that much.
And I fear he might base himself on the only tournament they recently had in NA.
Which I don't blame him but I don't think reflects the entire NA scene.
solid spear
Eh Im sure he knows the scene well enough
digital pond
But we'll see since we don't know who else is gonna be trying out.
solid spear
What other off tank flexes besides Coolmatt and Harb would get a shot?
digital pond
Iono. Agilities
solid spear
He's canadian
digital pond
Maybe
Maybe Miso
Only other I could think of is
Peeb
But EG hasn't played much recently
Maybe Zombs?
solid spear
Theyll probably just have Matt and Harb
digital pond
Good chance of it. I am surprised by the not asking Emongg mainly because his Dva is better than harbs currently
And if they are gonna fight Korea they need a solid Dva
solid spear
Cuz theyre gonna have Sinatraa, Jake presumably Grim, Retzi and maybe another projectile flex
digital pond
A good Dva is too important nowadays
solid spear
Emongg doesnt really have a Zarya and Harb is probably a lil better on Hog too plus Matt has a better D.Va than both anyway
digital pond
Well yeah but dva sees more play than zarya right now
Matt would prob fit better but I feel if you're gonna play into full pro team groups.
Dva's value is a tad bit higher
Against all of Rogue or all of a Korean team
solid spear
Honestly having just Matt and Harb is fine imo
digital pond
I guess yeh
Long as they have a genji player in the tryouts
Which I'm not sure what non canadian genji is on an NA team
digital pond
Cause all the flashy NA genjis seem to be canadian
solid spear
Well theres Jake, Hydration, Talespin, Sinatraa if you want him on it i guess lol
Thats it
supple nymph
buds
balmy wolf
JAKE's Genji is highly questionable
digital pond
Well I mean mainly people who are actively playing Genji.
digital pond
And have shown in the pro scene it's steady
Jake and sin genjis in pro games have been hit or miss really
digital pond
I would like to see Tspin there but idk if he would wanna do it
Instead of just scrimming with ex-fnatic
solid spear
Talespin I dont think will get invited
digital pond
And bidding his time
jovial eagle
what's he up to these days after he left envy
digital pond
Scrimming as a ringer for multiple teams
Right now playing with ex-fnatic as a group
And basically upkeeping his skills to OWL
digital pond
More recently he's been grinding the shit out of tracer
balmy wolf
He doesnt stream
digital pond
He wanted to stream more it just didn't happen.
jovial eagle
i remember talespin playing attack widow n eichenwalde
balmy wolf
Sinatraa confirmed his tryout on his discord
jovial eagle
it was brutal
supple nymph
gingerpop for mercy if they can find a good pharah
digital pond
He was and probably still is a good player.
balmy wolf
He's just been trialing for lots of different teams
digital pond
He never really stopped grinding it out.
balmy wolf
and playing ranked
jovial eagle
i don't doubt his skills
it's just he's been out of the pro scene for awhile
wondering what's he up to these days
balmy wolf
If they don't pick Adam I will be very surprised tbh
jovial eagle
was it grego who was gifted beta overwatch from talespin?
digital pond
Yup
jovial eagle
lol i remember watching some video and a guy said overwatch pros are pros because they were in beta and got the game earlier
solid spear
Harbs comments on his discord make me unsure if he was even invited
digital pond
Well of course getting the game early is an advantage of it's own right.
But a lot of pros didn't play til open beta and release
digital pond
Just about the grind. You can get the game early and play 5 games you aren't going anywhere
jovial eagle
has kaplan released the peopel who tried out for team USA?
im wondering if seagul even bothered
balmy wolf
Grego is trying out aswell
jovial eagle
seagull should try though, it's good for publicity
supple nymph
LEAK
balmy wolf
He already has enough lul
solid spear
Where you see Grego Polo?
jovial eagle
and vice versa i think
balmy wolf
His discord
supple nymph
are you on tim's discord?
balmy wolf
who
supple nymph
timthetatman
balmy wolf
no
solid spear
Grego being on the team makes me think no Rapha
Cuz Id be surprised if Adam didnt get a tryout
balmy wolf
Well one of the liquid guys is confirmed and if grego is trying out then i'd say its mesr
vestal mortar
Yaaas Mesr
balmy wolf
I wonder why Rapha is so busy this week then
@balmy wolf Grego is confirmed?
?
confirmed for the WC try out thing?
that's what i meant
You read my comment about him trying out didn't you?
yes
just asking for confirmation
so Grego, Sinatraa, one of the TL boys, JAKE
supple nymph
should someone tell r/overwatch the thing is cancelled?
jovial eagle
no
clever wagon
What did Harb say?
solid spear
Did some looking around and saw some people in lobby at 11pm est ๐
Super, Shake, Rawkus, Sinatraa, Zombs from here
balmy wolf
Both TJOs aswell
solid spear
Theyre Canada though
And Agilities is playing ranked rn so I assume they're not playing seems unrelated
balmy wolf
Well Tork isnt
solid spear
Based on who was in lobby and who I later saw in game I think its Jake, Grim, Calvin, Sinatraa, Super, FCTFCTN, Zombs, Grego, Dahang, Rawkus, Shake and one other
solid spear
Mesr either isn't on his friends list and is the last person or yeah isnt there
But considering FCTN and Super
Doubt it
balmy wolf
this roster is a massive eh
wintry matrix
he picked Super for his tracer
balmy wolf
tanks are questionable
support are good
and DPS is just......idk
If he picked Super for his Tracer thats an even worse pick
KyKy is not that dumb
but who knows
this is the starting of a dumpster fire
wintry matrix
i was just jking
wintry matrix
i wonder why this year teams like USA seems more tryhardy
still there's no prizepool right?
balmy wolf
Yep
Last year was just an atrocity so
so somebody need to tell Slasher that TEam Thailand is streaming try out
wintry matrix
i think it was more SK stomping than really bad teams
balmy wolf
just so that he shut the fuck up about his shit
wintry matrix
i remember france had good matches
wintry matrix
ofc there was also Sweden vs SPain
wintry matrix
they did well despite that
i mean, relatively
aside from SK most teams didn't even seem to have much of an strategy beyond outskilling the opponent
at most you got lil strats like how Spain won Anubis B of Sweden or the AUS mei elevator in Einchenwalde
feral solar
what are everyone's predictions for tonight's matches
toxic yacht
nV is a wildcard, so I dunno. Meta Athena has been looking weaker because they can't meta so well, so you really can't know
but I stand with my bois from the west, so nV 3-2
Runaway was pretty meh vs AFBlue, but some of the players were sick iirc so I wouldn't know, KDU 3-1
maybe
feral solar
hmm yeah idk what to expect from nV
i agree with the second game tho should be easy for KD
pseudo sail
Hey folks, ICYMI:
Meet the Koreans: Recry, the Korean boogeyman
http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/6044
Hope you enjoy!
plucky vortex
I'm sad that tryouts won't be streamed
clever wagon
Nobody can know the secret strats of the Freedomland's Overwatch team
toxic yacht
nono, the tryouts that don't mean shit will give away supersecret strats
lol
it's not like the meta will most likely be completely different by then
and that half of what you see won't even be the final team
balmy wolf
as Monte mocked it
what's there to hide
Team Thailand is streaming ffs
but nooooo
digital pond
Yeh lol
final river
So if Runaway loses today are they pretty much done this season?
toxic yacht
chances of them getting out are rather low then, yes
it isn't really in their control anymore
if they lose
final river
well ill be rooting for them then
plucky vortex
dafran is sitting this one out as well
digital pond
Yeah iono some of the teams that don't have full teams of their nation might com out weird.
A lot of players aren't even invited to tryout and it feels weird but who knows.
But if people wanna contend with KR/FR it's might be a bit rough
rapid oxide
Slasher acting like he got voted 
digital pond
Don't worry he stores his anger and charisma in his man bun.
All he has to do is release it.
BAM instantly voted in.
Please
I considered writing that
And I didn't
toxic yacht
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rapid oxide
"dude, you didn't get voted lmao"
toxic yacht
he was voted in in is heart
rapid oxide
Well... Honestly... If Kaplan would use another name
Probably Flame would win over Slasher
Casual /r/overwatch mental illness is astounding
"kaplan? Papa jeff on committee??? Take my. Vote"
balmy wolf
according to some, Slasher is blacklisted from Blizzard anyway
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
I remember Minstrel mentioned something about him being excluded from all the 3rd party tourny
because of his......lack of sensibility
so yeah, last hurrah for him I guess with this?
rapid oxide
Funny part is
Is the admin of the most important ow discord
With Blizzard employee in there lol
balmy wolf
he probably influence the decision to not stream to a significant degree
but if players wanted to miss a golden opportunity
then be my guests, I guess
balmy wolf
given what we know about Team USA so far
we might be doomed anyway
or rather, you, as in Americans
since i'm not American 
rapid oxide
Im not haha
balmy wolf
doesnt really matter what team the US made, they would lose anyway
clever wagon
My country isn't even among the 32 so I'm pretty much just ๐ฟ
final river
If America loses we all lose
rapid oxide
Im EU so not really
clever wagon
Keep going NA Overwatch ๐ป
rapid oxide
This shows EU>NA
balmy wolf
that has already been shown lul
clever wagon
EU jus chillin wit TakeOver n stuff, slowly building up new teams, KR just being KR and over in NA we got there are these public figures more or less fighting among themselves
balmy wolf
I wonder if there's a discord of Kruise and his friend
clever wagon
GJ ๐ป
balmy wolf
want to listen in on how Team UK is doing
rapid oxide
Stylosa lul
balmy wolf
at least they seems to be somewhat committed to doing things correctly
afaik
even with Stylosa on board
kruise is on this server
just fyi
clever wagon
At this point having Sty on board is probably less disruptive than NA committee/public figures fighting each other
balmy wolf
not like we can ping him @balmy wolf
unless you want to do it then be my guest
NA committee getting influenced by Slasher
rapid oxide
clever wagon
Full blown meme at 200% power
clever wagon
toxic yacht
train the dank memer
digital pond
To be fair
Lot of people said before Lassiz Offtank could be pro level.
But with 0 experience it means nothing.
vestal mortar
balmy wolf
not to T1 level by any stretch
digital pond
Yeah but you know
Being big was the key point.
People know about him and watch him much more.
So it's their reference point.
balmy wolf
that does bring the logic of bringing in a streamer DPS and then not showing the tryouts stream
like what they are trying to do here
solid spear
I mean he was supposedly on the TSM roster for a while
digital pond
He scrimmed with them
solid spear
yeah
digital pond
He was in a few of Dummy's Montages
balmy wolf
yeah, after Dummy's debacle I have no idea why they would bother with frag movies
the surest way to a hype train crash
digital pond
"Scrims between Team USA A and Team USA B Montage"
clever wagon
I mean
digital pond
"Wow we do good against one another"
digital pond
At least it'll get the casual population hyped
balmy wolf
fragmovies and stream highlight at this point are just different terms for same thing
clever wagon
Hopefully
balmy wolf
you said that but i don't really trust our NA overlords to actually do it correctly
digital pond
I mean the highlight video will purely be to hype r/OW
balmy wolf
as somebody noted
Team USA would be idiots for streaming tryouts
but at the same time
people would be idiots for taking le montages seriously
digital pond
Well people prob will.
The general population isn't as invested in the scene at large.
Especially on r/ow where it'll end up.
So there will be hype via it.
balmy wolf
the tryout streams have the potential to actually serve to spearhead it
but we won't have it because of reasons
so ๐คท
digital pond
I mean I guess but it doesn't matter cause we won't get the stream
So I don't see the point of talking about something we're not getting
Least we know we're getting the skilltage video
balmy wolf
something already happened doesn't mean that people can't scruitize it
digital pond
That's why I said I specifically me don't see the point
I never said no one else can't they obviously have been
digital pond
I feel like they can find a better hastag
balmy wolf
but you never know with these wonky selection
digital pond
Hopefully they make the right decision cause obviously they won't be sending one already formed team.
balmy wolf
according to the info we know
some of the decisions are already suspected
like not having MESR or Adam as try outs, for once
and of course Calvin and Grim
one streamer, one cold hitscan
balmy wolf
that doesn't exactly lined up with Slasher's statement of trying to get the best team for US
digital pond
Well he's also not in the committee
He can have input but if the 3 members don't care.
Well they don't care.
digital pond
He is but one person in the end v0v
balmy wolf
he still owned the largest pro discord of the Western OW world
so he still have a modicum of influence even if he is only one man.
digital pond
I mean yeah. But I don't see KyKy as not doing what he wanna do.
Considering he'll be the one coaching according to his statement
I'm sure they'll take his opinion into account but theya ren't too binded.
balmy wolf
you never know with the way this committee is working
balmy wolf
especially with Ster at helms for some reasons
with the roster moves though we can already questioned some of the decisions at least
Harbleu earlier on his stream said that it was "Kyky's friends"
not quite sure if it was sarcastic
but it sounds like it has some basis in truth
toxic yacht
inb4 team USA is weaker than last year
balmy wolf
a lack of MESR is already a glaring hole on the roster
why aren't you getting the most consistent NA tank?
toxic yacht
Dummy is the support
vestal mortar
No I don't think so, we've mostly just been speculating
solid spear
11 most likely based on them being in lobby at 11pm and then around 15 minutes later all in game with Kyky and Ster
the last one idk
balmy wolf
Oh so last is train
toxic yacht
train?
solid spear
Train is Canadian no?
balmy wolf
isn't Train Canadian?
vestal mortar
Polo pls
tough wind
Is he?
toxic yacht
pretty sure he is
balmy wolf
Leaking canadian team 
forest raven
Train is Canadian
solid spear
Yeah
tough wind
He rt jakes thing and agreed try ours were fun
Lol
Train is such a memer
I love him
balmy wolf
" Jake, Grim, Calvin, Sinatraa, Super, FCTFCTN, Zombs, Grego, Dahang, Rawkus, Shake"
toxic yacht
dahang, rawkus and shake are all really good ๐ค
balmy wolf
still pissed at no MESR
toxic yacht
gotta see who fits better
tough wind
Unlucky
balmy wolf
Rawkus is the 2nd Lucio
After Grego
For sure
the roster is super young. Dahang should be a lock, tbh
since he would provide a veteran hold in the team
solid spear
I dont think they care tbh
toxic yacht
inb4 he quits ow for quake champions
solid spear
I dont think hes a lock for anything
vestal mortar
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
balmy wolf
he is a well rounder who can play Mercy/Ana/Zen quite well tbh
solid spear
๐
vestal mortar
Ajax ๐
balmy wolf
which i think is an edge vs Shake
tough wind
I love listening to people thoughts on these players I play against every dat
It's an interesting perspective
balmy wolf
What do you think about Numlocked moving to G2 
tough wind
That was a solid meme
vestal mortar
lol
feral solar
lol
toxic yacht
balmy wolf
is it just me or team USA roster lacked dedicated off tank/flex?
solid spear
well thats probably the 12th person
toxic yacht
harb wasn't beign tried, right?
balmy wolf
he probably not. So is Emongg
tough wind
I'm sad I didn't get a chance for USA
I think it's sad retzi isn't getting a shot
Also for super and emongg
solid spear
Train honestly wouldve made sense thinking about it
balmy wolf
Whats sad for super
He got in over MESR lol
Super is getting a shot, what are you talking about
balmy wolf
you mean Harb?
Jake, Grim, Calvin, Sinatraa, Super, FCTFCTN, Zombs, Grego, Dahang, Rawkus, Shake
Thats the pool
+1
tough wind
Wtf
tough wind
Mesr isn't in pool
solid spear
soooo
balmy wolf
Because your committee is braindead
as Harbleu said, "Kyky's friends"
"your committee" being kyky
solid spear
no Mesr is so inexusable
vestal mortar
Is this the 12 that they are for sure narrowing down for the team or will they try anybody else?
tough wind
No comment on what I think of the commitee or the list
balmy wolf
there's so much holes to poke at that list of 12 that it is borderline parody of themselves
tough wind
There are snakes in here 
solid spear
๐
toxic yacht
๐
balmy wolf
Well you just told us you dont approve of Gods and Mesr not being on
toxic yacht
inb4 xQc's alt
balmy wolf
no MESR is inexcusable, and somehow they have Grim and Sinatraa on
vestal mortar
๐ ๐
tough wind
I mean it's just weird they wanted specifically flexible players and gods isn't there
toxic yacht
found xqc
balmy wolf
I'm not quite sure what's the methodology of Kyky's pick @tough wind
"hey guys, lets make the best team the US has to offer"
no mesr
vestal mortar
Awww
balmy wolf
putting Grim, Calvin, Sinatraa and fucking JAKE on there is kind of throwing
JAKE and Grim had been cold
Calvin had been streamer for a while
solid spear
I mean Jake is flexible at least and Grim is probably the guy after Retzi
balmy wolf
meanwhile Sinatraa is kind of shaky as DPS
tough wind
Well to be fair to commitee there are a lot of players here that haven't competed in a while or very inconsistent they off chance they play in a tourney so it's tough.
Faze dudes
Even LG evil guys
Tl
Grego
All of these players don't consistently play so how do u know who is the best or who deserves it
solid spear
Liquid
balmy wolf
DaHang is super solid and even in losses he showed that
They've been playing really well recently though?
yeah that too
balmy wolf
JAKE's Genji is passable while his Pharah is straight up throwing
Grim had been cold for the last few months while Agilities doing the carry
toxic yacht
they lost a bunch of tournemants, did well in carbon and PIT and have been ded since then iirc
solid spear
I mean they played well at PIT tbf besides that theyve been shaky
they didnt do well in Carbon they went 4-6 and missed playoffs
balmy wolf
they took nV to the limit in Rumble
toxic yacht
they did well by the end
vestal mortar
Yeah the lack of tourneys has been bad for deciding who is best and really consistant.
toxic yacht
after shadder came
tough wind
They were in like a 3 month slump, came back showed up huge then disappeared again
This is relatively same story for LG evil, so these commitee guys have a tough choice
toxic yacht
and rapha moved to lushio
solid spear
and then didnt make it out their group in Rivalcade after losing to Splyce
balmy wolf
loss by 10 seconds of KOTH
then tilted into losing vs Splyce
when they lost that a little piece of me died
tough wind
So I'll repeate OW as a whole is so fucking inconsistent and is so fucking hard to judge which teams are good and even more so to detrirmen how good a player is doing individually at any given time
So these commitee guys have it rough, maybe there is some favortism but it's tough
balmy wolf
eh, we got plenty of footage that Grim as hitscan had been a hot/cold affair, same with JAKE
solid spear
I agree that it isnt as easy as some are making it out to bebut like how can we justify no Mesr
like pls
balmy wolf
like I said, lots of hole to be poke at
vestal mortar
Yeah I can completely understand that it's not easy. :C
tough wind
And any given day between super mesr and fct are all the same
1 day 1 will be owning next the other will
It's very tough
solid spear
fair enough
tough wind
It's also very tough when a lot of these teams were dodging tournies till very recently
I haven't seen fct vs mesr since....
solid spear
we still dont know the 12th anyway so theres that too I guess
tough wind
I dont even know
tough wind
What if I'm the 12th and I'm pullin all ur legs
vestal mortar
Who do we think is the 12th? off-tank/flex?
solid spear
probably
balmy wolf
Faze "half of our roster is EU so we can only show up on LAN" Clan
tough wind
All I'm saying is outside agents rising I have the best usa Lucio lan results
All I'm sayin
vestal mortar
pls don't pull my legs
balmy wolf
that makes sense now that i think of it
balmy wolf
23rd lol
vestal mortar
23rd Cx
solid spear
BM
tough wind
Autocorrect got me going nuts
solid spear
tough wind
Connorj not trying out for Canada makes me sad
tough wind
I wanna start a petition
solid spear
thats unfortunate
vestal mortar
Yeah I am interested to see where the roster will end up.
balmy wolf
in the trash
oh wait
meanwhile Team Thailand is doing tryouts and streaming
it already is trash
solid spear
b1am and ConnorJ are still real good people just forgot they existed
vestal mortar
Whaaa
tough wind
Well top 2
tough wind
Agilities is pretty even
balmy wolf
right now best NA hog is probably Emongg
tough wind
B1am and connorj come back
tough wind
Almost all of kungarna is free agents
solid spear
those boys need squads asap
balmy wolf
tough wind
It makes u think
vestal mortar
๐ค
tough wind
Have u ever tried for newts and been sent a picture of an actual newt
vestal mortar
Who is trying out for team Canada? Are they doing a similar try-out thingy to Team USA?
tough wind
Idk
vestal mortar
No I have not
vestal mortar
Ahh yeah
toxic yacht
no surefour?
forest raven
Surefour's a slam dunk
toxic yacht
๐ค
forest raven
He has to be
toxic yacht
solid spear
a shame that Surefour guy wont make it
toxic yacht
vestal mortar
I am just trying to find a team to cheer for since my country didn't make it in. ๐ข
feral solar
cant wait till they make him play tank again
vestal mortar
WOW
toxic yacht
well, at least that makes ShaDowBurn in the playoffs more likely
tough wind
Did I say something
forest raven
Team "We want to throw harder than USA" Canada
vestal mortar
No, didn't say anything ๐
forest raven
Watching Fargo which isn't esports related 
vestal mortar
Lol
feral solar
season 3 draw?
rapid oxide
What about tim? Pretty solid player imo
tough wind
Oh no
clever wagon
Hey @tough wind
tough wind
Henlo
solid spear
@clever wagon Hi
toxic yacht
@clever wagon Hi
vestal mortar
@vestal mortar Hey
clever wagon
Jfc
rapid oxide
@clever wagon Hi
tough wind
U r loved
vestal mortar
I think you are one of the popular kids now
rapid oxide
tough wind
Already more loved than me
clever wagon
I should ensure NA OW team has the best roster
tough wind
Most hated Lucio player na here to serve
toxic yacht
you are a cat
vestal mortar
๐ข
feral solar
didnt know you played that hero
clever wagon
@toxic yacht You have no way of knowing
rapid oxide
You had to stick with kungarna imo :/
toxic yacht
well, the whole supersketchy ghost thing happened
and then TSM and NGCEO also happened
solid spear
Hating someone who likes Chitoge? Cant relate
tough wind
It wasn't sketchy, this this a good org
rapid oxide
NGCEO 
clever wagon
I'm famous now, I can do Slasher's job in his place as a not-part-of-the-committee and not even a NA person
toxic yacht
ah, it was a good org. Dunno, it seemed kinda shadyish to me
kinda appearing out of nowhere
clever wagon
Though I lack the manbun pineapple
balmy wolf
Ghost Gaming was legit
rapid oxide
Then why change?
balmy wolf
Just have a bit of quirks lol
toxic yacht
probably because they wanted to stay together
tough wind
Maybe years down the line I'll tell the story of ghost and what happened. Its,actually one of the best memes of all time
rapid oxide
๐ฐ?
balmy wolf
Weedsmap, anyone?
tough wind
It's one of the spiciest
solid spear
its gonna be in 5 time OWL champion Ajax's biography
clever wagon
Oo boy
rapid oxide
Truth: team got benched 
vestal mortar
๐ถ ๐ฅ
tough wind
I can't win tho
balmy wolf
Long story short, as explained by some other people, Ghost Gaming was related to Weedsmap (sp)
toxic yacht
I mean, the fact that only half the roster wanted to join kinda implies something
tough wind
I always place never win
4 omm 3rd place runs, 1 lan runner up
Never first
Unlucky
vestal mortar
Unlucky man
rapid oxide
Like nrg kinda
toxic yacht
lol
toxic yacht
NA ReUnited
tough wind
Yah there csgo team is lit
They have some really good players
They can contend with top na teams like c9 and nrg
rapid oxide
No one can beat SK im. Sorry
tough wind
Also true
balmy wolf
Wait are you talking about csgo nrg and c9?
tough wind
Vace do u just drop truth bombs all day
toxic yacht
csgo
toxic yacht
ghost ow kinda doesn't exist rn
rapid oxide
tough wind
They tried to get back in
rapid oxide
lmak
tough wind
But then that team died and became LK
vestal mortar
*benched himself
balmy wolf
Probably for the best since Alicus is lowkey making LK a force to be reckon with
tough wind
I think I'm leaking to much
toxic yacht
yee
tough wind
I'm going to stop typing
vestal mortar
Oh noey
tough wind
I'm deleting messages now ๐
balmy wolf
i have them saved anyway
toxic yacht
๐
balmy wolf
tough wind
Shit
balmy wolf
ur done kid
rapid oxide
Polo is a creepy fuck
tough wind
I'm ded
vestal mortar
Polo is ๐
toxic yacht
brb sending to NRG
rapid oxide
:p
tough wind
Unlucky
balmy wolf
Ghost now could probably sign ex Fanatic, or make a new roster with how many FA are in the market
tough wind
There are some interesting pub teams rn
toxic yacht
I'd rather go with a roster that's actually showing results
tough wind
That's all I'll say
vestal mortar
Oooh
solid spear
._.
rapid oxide
50.man roster
vestal mortar
lol
tough wind
Omm qualis are going to be lit for drama and memes
balmy wolf
Don't sign YIKES lol