LGL and Fnatic were underperforming, no surprise that the org wasn't willing to invest into something like that
#esports-discussion
vestal mortar
EU 😢
toxic yacht
The EU situation is dumdum, and they probably didn't wanna risk moving an entire team to NA because the OWL seemed wonky
all really good teams are still in orgs
it sucks for the teams, but this isn't particularily telling
solid spear
Zarya is off meta now smh
toxic yacht
eh, she's pretty meta in EU, based off this tournament
triple dps isn't very common
mostly 2-2-2
toxic yacht
lol
rapid oxide
supple nymph
owl preview https://www.twitch.tv/riotgames
look at that production
and all the KR
gentle shuttle
eatsports
rapid oxide
if i have to be honest
LoL doesn't have too much teams on it
like, the top tier na are 5
pine star
ArHaN 
supple nymph
looks spicy
pine star
balmy wolf
LOL
pine star
Oh lol
gentle shuttle
❤
gentle shuttle
cant really knock anyone for making light of things
supple nymph
vestal mortar
The memes have never been more spicy 
pine star
lol
velvet scarab
hahaha
toxic yacht
LUL
vestal mortar
🥖
balmy wolf
📉
vestal mortar
hehe
pine star
ripe marlin
lol gale force
supple nymph
why did nrg design their logo with one strike through it already 😢
didnt think of ow survivor bingo
supple nymph
Twitter
wintry matrix
i thought it was super obvious
vestal mortar
Same
blazing parrot
Same
supple nymph
Same
well, I thought it might have a double meaning
but giving too much credit i guess
digital pond
I knew it because when I was a kid I used to listen to NRG FM in france.
Radio channel and we all just knew it.
I thought the radio stations owned NRG at first.
digital pond
_>
pine star
spring lintel
Cant bliz make some spicy team based mode in game?
Like a ladder for teams only?
Or some online tournament in game as a mode?
balmy wolf
there's some rumors of a payload race mode. And while ladder for team is good in theory, good luck getting 6 of your friends to actually sit down and play
OW fan base hated it when they tried that
spring lintel
Dont play it then
Like the ladder is gonna be for amateurs
For scrims
Something pros and amateurs can get into
Instead of always looking for scrims on discord and such
NRG wanted to scrim before a tourney but guess what? They didnt find any team
So they had to queue in comp 
balmy wolf
well, the thing is that though is that OW fan base is pretty bipolar. Dynamic queue is shit, but nobody have time for 6 stack so 🤷
spring lintel
Give different rewards for 6 man stack
Like make an actual team feature
I think I heard they are very interested in clans
But that was like 5 months ago or something
balmy wolf
nah
they need to make more skins
and loot boxes
because who cares about esport and competitive when OWL is killing the scene 
wintry matrix
i'm sure you're memeing, but one department has 0 to no relation with the other
supple nymph
¯_(ツ)_/¯
probably > 95% of overwatch players dont care about esports or competitive
when OWL comes they wont even know blizz paved over the original scene
gentle shuttle
left behind.
balmy wolf
i feel like Blizz get caught off by how organic the competitive scene had been growing
and they are trying to cash on it
instead of letting it grow naturally
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6az0n0/wouldnt_it_be_cool_if_sombra_pulled_out_a_second/
I dunno, give her a little bit more a kick in team fights while remaining thematic.
truly, r/OW
kindred kiln
the game would be so fun if every "would it be cool if..." posted on reddit got implemented
and by fun i mean unplayable
balmy wolf
I hate how at least 95% of the player base doesn't know how deceptively Sombra's dmg base is
kindred kiln
eh, her damage is not why people use her anyway
i mean, you can kill/injure backline if you are lucky, but usually that's not the point
much better to hack someone important, throw bullets in general direction, jump back to hacked hp
at least that's how i play her on defense,no idea about her attack usage
balmy wolf
she have similar one clip potential like Tracer
just that a. She lack her mobility
and b. She is dependent on hack
and of course, you have to aim
kindred kiln
isnt her spread much worse?
balmy wolf
yes, but it is compensated for a bit more dmg iirc
balmy wolf
Tracer's spread is already pretty bad to begin with, yeah
wintry matrix
is there even any place with official stats like these?
pine star
Bigger clip
wintry matrix
i guess there's the wiki but
wintry matrix
but like, is 100% reliable?
delicate sparrow
pretty sure
pine star
Yup
delicate sparrow
as reliable as a wiki can be at least
clever wagon
The bullshit typical r/ow users always comes up with
wintry matrix
eh, i don't mind these types of post, gets people thinking
supple nymph
filthy casuals
clever wagon
Not worth thinking when it's obviously insensible, unreasonable, and breaks the game
vestal mortar
Sombra has been used very effectivly in esports lately 🤔
supple nymph
only in kr and eu
balmy wolf
aka the only regions that matter
supple nymph
pine star
wintry matrix
i mean, when spitballing 95 of the ideas will suck
i dislike when it's something that emphatically affirming something wrong
delicate sparrow
the other day I was reading a conversation where someone was saying sombra was useless and orisa was op and like. how wrong can you be at once
supple nymph
patent quail
I got so many theeeooooories and suspiscioooon
balmy wolf
iirc
somebody from flamecord said he had a conspiracy theory where teams are forced to release their roster
if they want to have a spot in OWL
can't say it does not sound enticing (and depressing) at the same time
digital pond
He's too busy having conspiracy theories and forgets to pay his players periodically.
solid spear
I love starboard lol
"First they take our tourneys then they take our orgs, now the game."
solid spear
Masterminds picked up the best player in the game
balmy wolf
I wonder if they just signed the fucking 6 stack and call it a day or something
solid spear
Masterminds indeed
pine star
NA < EU < KR < AU 
clever wagon
Let's take a stroll down r/ow lane
digital pond
I can't wait for Cantus to heal
clever wagon
Dafran's back in NA 
digital pond
Guess now you can sub to dafran tos ee vods
solid spear
Im subbing to Dad regardless
supple nymph
solid spear
Lmao
balmy wolf
thats actually so ironic lmao
supple nymph
balmy wolf
blazing parrot
wintry matrix
i know this has been established already, but i'm still deeply surprised by seeing an asian speaking english in way that i don't want murder myself
wintry matrix
oh, didn't knew that
supple nymph
wintry matrix
and btw, weren't the challengers teams really hyped up? so far they look lost
wintry matrix
i remember one korean team saying like they were up with the top teams or something
clever wagon
Yeah
digital pond
LH coach said Might AOD might surprise people in the long run.
Don't think he said equal tho
clever wagon
Only things I saw were like "they did really good in Challengers and Superweek" but that's about it, there's no indication of how they would do in APEX itself
wintry matrix
it was not that, i just remember some old post, back in before the apex 2 finals
but it's probably that anyway
wary falcon
Is Faze still active?
wary falcon
Faze are good at making money, as for me if faze drops OW - game is pretty much done
clever wagon
Everybody's basically on the bingo board
pine star
@wary falcon nonsense
solid spear
I mean Ill say this
memorial tourney at the end of the month
Faze and Liquid aint invited
pine star
Why should FaZe be invited?
solid spear
not saying they should just throwing that out there
pine star
They have been performing like shit
solid spear
they were invited to the last tournament
pine star
Which was a mistake imo
solid spear
and Renegades got invited and theyve been missing for 4 years
pine star
Not deserved at all
solid spear
Im just throwing it out there
balmy wolf
Juvthreenile showing up on UB
solid spear
not that they would be anyway
balmy wolf
solid spear
no idea lol
balmy wolf
For what?
pine star
...
balmy wolf
Oh you're calling it memorial day instead of rumble
Im a dumbass
pine star
No one is denying that fact Oreo
solid spear
Sulli pls 
balmy wolf
Liquid isnt invited btw
pine star
Are they in the quals tho?
balmy wolf
No wait
balmy wolf
The fucking info link
solid spear
its says they are
pine star
Bronze pin
balmy wolf
Liquid was initially invited, but then they backed out
with splyce and coL
make of that as you will
however
According to my friend
balmy wolf
Team Liquid for now is alive
since DaHang did said that he had to scrim OW before turning off his stream
so they are preparing for something
pine star
for now
pine star
Maybe they are getting kicked from Liquid but they will stay as an independent team and will continue to scrim together
puts on tinfoil hat
balmy wolf
usually these moves are like a few weeks in advance
so if they are scrimming
it means that they are preparing
so at least there's that
solid spear
idk
yesterday Custa was on stream saying they were trialing a Rein and that Talespin was joining
and boom bodied
next day
pine star
Bodied?
solid spear
dropped
pine star
Oh right
dusty surge
Wait... where'd my comment go? :(
pine star
What comment?
solid spear
eaten
pine star
edgy remnant
nuked
pine star
EMP'ed
edgy remnant
solid spear
wew
blissful zenith
p
pseudo sail
ICYMI, did a new article. Hope you enjoy!
Time for ArHaN to step up or step down
http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/6040
As always, feedback is both welcome and appreciated and feel free to share around if you enjoyed it! ^^
pseudo sail
I address that too 😛
clever wagon
Finally actually watching APAC finals
toxic yacht
wow, you're early
clever wagon
If this isn't one of the best OW matches in history by far, even more than any of APEX, I don't know what is
Yes, Sojum, I don't need anybody reminding me I was a fucking casual trash pre 2017
balmy wolf
Watching the highlights of the Atlantic Showdown
Reminds me of how good it was
Amazing casters + analysts, amazing teams and players, good meta, skins were allowed
no fixed map pools
the dream
clever wagon
TviQ.... is scary
balmy wolf
My dream DPS duo would be Tviq and Surefour
it is practically Western's answer to Birdring and Rascal
forest raven
Tviq and Surefour are the only two unicorns of OW
clever wagon
At such a high level
clever wagon
TviQ Surefour Seagull??
forest raven
Seagull off tank
clever wagon
Gull off tank?
balmy wolf
The heck
balmy wolf
Seagull can be in the flex Genji/off tanks slot. And Seagull's Zarya is excellent.
balmy wolf
that's assuming they lacked firepower when Gull is on Zarya though
they won't
Sure, TviQ and Sure4 can play almost all heroes at the highest level
But I think its a waste having them on Off tanks
over DPS
clever wagon
Which is my point
balmy wolf
somebody needs to offtanking
There's better picks than Seagull for off tank
100%
and having a dedicated off tank is limited
clever wagon
Emongg, Harb to name 2 off the top of my head
balmy wolf
"limited"
you're acting like thats a problem
for a team with Sure4 and TviQ
Flexibility is not a problem for a team like that
Emongg's Roadhog is great, and while sometime he flex to others charactes he rarely ever be effective as his Hog
Harb are great at Hog and Zarya but his Tracer is downright throw
and that's not to mention his tendency to feed
forest raven
Why would Harb ever play Tracer with Surefour and TviQ
clever wagon
Harb are great at Hog and Zarya but his Tracer is
Why did you assume-- yeah
balmy wolf
triple DPS?
that's the role he plays whenever NRG or CoL want triple DPS
and it is not good.
forest raven
NRG doesn't have Surefour or TviQ
final thistle
^
clever wagon
NRG only have 1 star DPS
balmy wolf
But somebody going to have to take the third DPS slot.
clever wagon
Which was their... 6th player? iirc
final thistle
No
clever wagon
Lol
balmy wolf
and that's going to be the off tank guy.
final thistle
Who needs 3 dps
clever wagon
Wait IDDQD
final thistle
When you have tviq and sure4
balmy wolf
mind you, it is not even just 3 dps, it is all about flexbility across multiple metas
all three of them are really good at flexing
gotta get your head out of "but Seagull in off tank!"
final thistle
Did i say that
balmy wolf
other said that.
final thistle
Lul
clever wagon
TviQ and Surefour alone have enough DPS firepower to withstand the meta shift unless one offense hero apart from Reaper who's trash currently also gets nerfed and smashed to the ground
balmy wolf
that's what everyone said when C9 brought Gods in to help with Mendo and Surefour
and look where we at right now.
clever wagon
Gods is great but I personally never thought he's at those 2's level
clever wagon
So
forest raven
I mean at this point Gods is the most versatile player in the world
balmy wolf
Gods is not a Tviq level of flex though
If you're talking about a "dream team" idk why you would put Seagull on it
his hitscan are decent but always get outplayed by others
his Genji is suspect at best
Sure he's a good projectile DPS and he can play a decent zarya
his main tanking had been decent but whatever
but there are better picks
i just dont get it
clever wagon
Heck just throw SoOn in place of Seagull and you have a triple dps
balmy wolf
Seagull is actually underrated in term of being able to play all proj DPS well enough
clever wagon
But he doesn't play off-tank
balmy wolf
but he isn't a carry DPS player
so putting him on a role where he can be the secondary carry
is going to be the best route
That "dream team" looks like a USA WC roster with TviQ and Sure4 thrown in because why not
Seagull can play Pharah, Genji, Mei, and Hanzo very well
balmy wolf
Yeah I guess
clever wagon
Not necessarily the best, because we all have different opinions here on that
clever wagon
My mistake
clever wagon
We just did
balmy wolf
playing the "oh it is his opinion whatever" is coward
especially considering I outlined on why
clever wagon
But you stayed with Seagull so why waste more time
vestal mortar
Seagull 😍
clever wagon
Clearly there's no making you have afterthoughts
balmy wolf
and right now, who's the better pick in that slot?
I already outlined Emongg and Harb's limitedness
Off the top of my head, Linkzr
Seems you're looking for a proj dps who can play 1 or 2 off tanks
Linkz is a straight upgrade from Seagull imo
and i feel like others in here would agree
Linkzr is a hitscan though
What are yo uon about?
final thistle
vestal mortar
👀
balmy wolf
Linkzr is a projectile DPS
Bromas has always been the hitscan
meh maybe just me misremembering things since it had been a while since I last saw Team Dignitas
my apology
as far as being straight upgrade goes, I'm not quite sure
considering that Seagull is not just a weebstick main
his Mei, Hanzo are all very top tier
while his Zarya is extremely underrated
he can always flex to Hog as well too
since that's what he scrim with while still practicing in NRG
final thistle
I think Reign wolf will only be satisfied if you find someone who can play every character in the game flawlessly
It seems
vestal mortar
My dream is for Seagull to be on a team again.
balmy wolf
my methodlogy is clearly about having extreme amount of flexibility between the three roles that is going to do the most DPS
Meanwhile most of the refutation is "but he is better"
Well you seem to not know anything about linkzr
better at what?
vestal mortar
*Seagull to be activly playing on a team again
balmy wolf
He is a straight upgrade in that he plays a better Hog and Genji and he also plays the heroes Seagull plays at the same level if not also better
i don't count competitive play in the context of hero pool, btw
final thistle
Lul
balmy wolf
and also, Seagull is not going to be in a carry spot as S4 and Tviq
Nor do I lol
Linkzr is more akin of a DPS you build around
meanwhile in my roster S4 and Tviq are the stars
Seagull can literally only play Zarya
And a passable Roadhog at best
he can also Hog.
he actually scrimmed with it.
and i don't know about passable when Seagull has had moments with his Zarya
vestal mortar
His hog is not the best when he played it on stream recently >_>
balmy wolf
Seagull is going to be in the role of a Genji/D.va/Zarya flex anyway
vestal mortar
And I am a big fan girl
balmy wolf
so having a Hog is bonus at best
final thistle
I'm not a fan of his hog either
balmy wolf
So you're going to make him learn and play a hero he doesnt and hasnt ever played in the pro scene
l o l
final thistle
I think his Zarya is his best
balmy wolf
His Zarya is 100% his best off tank
vestal mortar
Yep
final thistle
Agreed
balmy wolf
Because its really the only one he can play at that level
final thistle
Yep
final thistle
Are you sure about that
balmy wolf
it is a cherry on top at best
final thistle
@balmy wolf he wants a 6-man team who can play literally every hero flawlessu
vestal mortar
I dunno, I think a consistant hog is real important
balmy wolf
Thats what it seems like lol @final thistle
final thistle
Lmao
clever wagon
Call me a fucking trash casual but I don't get why prioritize Zarya as the off-tank over Hog
balmy wolf
Tviq can do the Hog duty
final thistle
Zarya is a lot more useful in more situations
balmy wolf
If you really want this roster, might aswell just have him and Rapha switch between Lucio when you want a Zarya
clever wagon
And again, taking off his firepower from DPS
balmy wolf
Seagull has said he wants to play more support and Raphas Zarya is really good
final thistle
^
balmy wolf
have you watch Seagull play Zarya @clever wagon ?
his Zarya is anything but "taking off his firepower"
clever wagon
I have a couple of times on Stream
vestal mortar
Flame is right, Seagull on Lucio
final thistle
Are you sure about that
vestal mortar
I think he totally could
final thistle
Why cant seagull shot call?
balmy wolf
if NRG could have Seagull shotcall, they wouldn't try to import Numlocked
vestal mortar
He is good at giving lots of information really quickly and analysing the situation
balmy wolf
and also again, if we are arguing "why are we putting him on role where he can't be explosive"
isn't that a worst choice then?
balmy wolf
well the other two guys fucking said it
balmy wolf
since apparently putting Seagull in a KR style Genji flex is propostorous
I definitely didnt
final thistle
did they really?
vestal mortar
I don't think anybody said that
final thistle
Lmao
clever wagon
Alright why don't you quote us and see if you read the same thing as what we wrote
final thistle
I cant take this bronze chat anymore, ill see ya guys around
clever wagon
Scroll up and double check
vestal mortar
👋
balmy wolf
what was that then
clever wagon
Whose firepower
vestal mortar
That was in reference to Tviq
clever wagon
Tara can read
vestal mortar
Because you said "Tviq on hog duty then" or something
vestal mortar
It's okay! 😃
balmy wolf
I will stick to my guns on the choice though
I mean, that is fine
It's your dream team
vestal mortar
And that is okay, we just agree to disagree.
You are allowed have your own opinion
balmy wolf
yeah well, somebody already thought that this is a bronze chat
final thistle
That was more of a joke though
Just too tired to create a valid argument
So id rather just call it bronze
toxic yacht
Eh, you people undervalue seagull too much
Especially his brain and his ability to analyse situations and approach them in a really good way, that's not something that many players have
balmy wolf
one other thing I also going to mention is that allocate to resources between your DPSes
someone like Linkrz is going to demand more resources and attention
toxic yacht
There is a reason why a lot of people want him to move to a more supporty off-tanky spot
vestal mortar
That's why I think he'd be great shotcalling on Lucio, Sojum
And probably why he wants to practice more support characters
balmy wolf
Seagull can probably be a secondary caller
but i'm not convinced that he can be a primary shotcaller
toxic yacht
And yeah, linkzr is more of a carry dps. I don't know if having 3 of them on one team is smart
balmy wolf
if we were to go with the Linkrz is better DPS than Seagull, then I'd still go with Seagull since he is going to be fit in a more NicoGDH like role
where is not the primary carry
as much as just the one who mop up and maybe start the initation
vestal mortar
Lena 👋
toxic yacht
I'm also not convinced about him being a better mei/Pharah/hanjo/Zarya than seagull
Like, his hitscan is pretty good
And maybe he has a better genji
But the rest seems ridiculous
Also, seag's brain
balmy wolf
in a team ideally you need a decent number of carry, support and consistent players spread across
so that you don't strain resources
Rogue could get Kryw and he is a better DPS than NicoGDH (on paper)
but they didn't.
because their main two carry are AKM and Soon
and those two needs a lot of resources to operate
putting 3 carry DPS in a team strain resources a lot since at least one of them will be underpowered
viral ledge
hi
toxic yacht
Go away you fat dog
viral ledge
uhh ok reported bye 👋
vestal mortar
👋
toxic yacht
ok bye
viral ledge
I just wanted to say that taimou needs to main mercy, he really can't keep playing soldier in this meta, the dps is just too consistent
vestal mortar
viral ledge
it needs to be suprising
toxic yacht
Fun fact: He played medic back in tf2
viral ledge
so the shotcaller gets confused
and forgets to speak
then their junkrat needs to use his ult in the middle of the enemy team
trust me I got out of gold I'm a certified good player
clever wagon
Man watching APAC I just realized how clutchy can Reinforce be on main tanks
solid spear
I mean even in this game he started out as a Mercy player
quasi python
vestal mortar
3rd time's the charm!
quasi python
blank loose?
clever wagon
CantuS will be playing in 2 days @solid spear
Oh wait you already dropped him from being your stepdad
What an evil stepson
rapid oxide
Twitter
solid spear
@clever wagon Im not evil :<
clever wagon
@rapid oxide iirc that exact tweet was posted here like a day or 2 ago
@solid spear C'mon now
rapid oxide
Prob miss that
toxic yacht
you know, if prices are gotten with bidding wouldn't that just mean that the Miami spot got so expensive because a big org (hmmm, I wonder which one) could just outbid everyone? 
vestal mortar
Yeah Sojum, I was actually thinking something along those lines was a possibility too.
pine star
@toxic yacht holy shit the clutch
toxic yacht
Gonna rename myself to ShaDowBurn Jr. when the worldcup starts
pine star
Nothing will ever surpass Taimou's shooting gallery with 1hp tho
In which tourney was beyblade born?
toxic yacht
ow open
pine star
By who?
toxic yacht
dunno, but I first saw fnatic use it
misfits also beybladed their way through the EU playoffs
supple nymph
toxic yacht
Misfits was probably the best beyblade team in OW
and they also did it much better than everybody else
reeeeepost
no surprise that they won the OW Open tbh
solid spear
Yes
pine star
Yes to which question? lo
solid spear
I was talking about the second but both
solid spear
No
pine star
Because it's in all caps I guess
solid spear
That's their last name
pine star
I should've guessed it
toxic yacht
Misfits hated playing tanks, so they used their ezpz teamwipe combo to murder them all while nevix abused broken Mei. During dreamhack they also did their triple dps nonsense because they didn't wanna run triple tank. Basically, that variant of triple dps was designed to counter the non-NiP triple tank. According to zebbo they had a secret version of their own triple tank that they'd pull out vs NiP because triple DPS didn't work against. For some reason Misfits could never beat NiP during that meta, so they hoped that someone else would take them out. Fnatic beat them, so Misfits never had to pull out their Supersecret Strat™ and could run triple DPS vs Fnatic again
toxic yacht
yup
Hidan literally posted "Fuck the meta" after winning Dreamhack with triple dps
lol
kinda ironic that beyblade became meta
solid spear
Beyblade was actually retarded though
pine star
Well of course
It's like the easiest combo to pull out
Just press Q and kill fools
I kinda liked tho 
ngl
solid spear
I remember back when I sucked Fnatic when Idd would be stuck on Mei while Buds was spinning every 45 seconds
Made me wanna kill myself
toxic yacht
oh yeah, good ol beyblade
toxic yacht
the fact that the worst post-release meta in OW came after that also helps my beyblade appreciation
pine star
Bitch could have two of them in a single team fight
toxic yacht
well, mei got nerfed anyway
solid spear
I remember watching Idds stream and him complaining about being forced to play Mei
Hate beyblade
toxic yacht
her ult charge was done with her old radius in mind
so blizzard of course had to make it so massive that no one could escape without speedboost without tuning its chargerate
lul
solid spear
Basically beyblade is trash
pine star
It's alright
pine star
Nasty stuff
toxic yacht
unnerfed genji
op zenyatta
cree oneshotting people because of discord orb
no ana, which means that shit actually died
solid spear
I miss McCree
toxic yacht
shit died even faster because op zen
solid spear
I mean current meta is ok I guess
pine star
I love how back then they could just throw 6 ults in a team fight and still manage to have tons of ults for the next lol
vestal mortar
Whoa, is there an esports discussion party in voice chat?
wintry matrix
but i don't think it's ever been used
toxic yacht
but it got flooded with normies
I know that polo, reb and I used the eSports channel once
vestal mortar
Awww
solid spear
Man I want everyone to hear my sweet voice during tournaments
pine star
sweet voice
solid spear
Kawaii
pine star
vestal mortar
toxic yacht
warm mist
pine star
I don't know german
But was the caster saying "where's the pin? where's the pin?"
?
lmfao!
toxic yacht
yeah
they were like "Where's the pin? Where's the pin? Rein must be down, or he would already have used it... NO!, NEVER, NEVER, ARE YOU SERIOUS?! THIS CAN'T BE TRUE"
pine star
🚌 🔥 🔥 🔥
toxic yacht
the last pin was the most hilarious one because it didn't even help
Hammers already won the teamfight, juv3nile just pinned him for the sake of memes
you can see him just waiting outside the point before charging in
pine star
The dankest of them all
blazing parrot
XD
clever wagon
Ex-Renegades Juv3nile?
pine star
JuvTHREEnile
clever wagon
My bad
toxic yacht
yee, it's him
toxic yacht
same here lmao
pine star
Wo ist der pin?
rapid oxide
vestal mortar
Aww yis!
rapid oxide
rapid oxide
I agree tbh
toxic yacht
whoa
pesto spitting fire
the only thing that tilts me is the dignitas drop
they were looking very promising at PIT
and massively improved
pine star
Linkzr 
balmy wolf
fight for their share of 50K prize pool
toxic yacht
showed a ton of potential. Not a big fan of the drop tbh
balmy wolf
oh the day that an OW LAN was 100K
toxic yacht
:(
balmy wolf
anyone remember OW Open with 300K?
toxic yacht
yup
balmy wolf
that was fun
toxic yacht
it seemed so promising
pine star
We're all free agents now 
toxic yacht
then they had to announce the OWL
rapid oxide
No prizepool Sulli
rapid oxide
no
supple nymph
@pine star we'll all be insane by owl like this and it wont matter https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/6ayopc/rhearthstone_is_reaching_a_state_of_delusion/
we wont even be aware
rapid oxide
i mean... nate said prizepool doesnt matter in a league
obviously who won will get more money
but there isnt a prizepool
like the world cup
pine star
Fuck Nate
rapid oxide
pine star
It's mine now
balmy wolf
WC is already a sham to begin with
supple nymph
it's gonna bomb without seagull
balmy wolf
Seagull is out
which is fine
I put him on my dreamteam list but I also need to note his seemingly casual approach to WC last year and also an inability to be a carry DPS
at least you can put him to shill for WC I guess
but without him we are losing at least 15K worth of viewers
pine star
It's not about his carry potential
It's about the viewership he brings
I think that's what Ford meant
balmy wolf
I literally just said that without him WC is losing at least 15K worth of viewers
pine star
Yup
toxic yacht
his genji vs shadowburn's genji was 
rapid oxide
probably wont be 230k peak
rapid oxide
hope it will be alteast >100
toxic yacht
yee, SDB wanted that kill so badly
pine star
Do you guys think we'll get some of dem sweet sweet spectator mode updates for WC?
I mean
balmy wolf
Blizzard needs to shill for the LAN Qualifiers
pine star
Where better to showcase them before league
balmy wolf
like constant 24/7 shilling in the lead up to it
rapid oxide
i saw 0 to none spectator update
balmy wolf
last year WC I don't think they were doing enough
pine star
They never said 2017
rapid oxide
they said it at q1 2017
pine star
Also, they are hiring observers, which mean they could start practicing on it without having to release it
Mmmh I don't remember hearing/reading that
toxic yacht
tbh if spectating is still garbage when the OWL launches then just 
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
a minimap for spectator is obviously needed but Jeff in one of the interview seems to be kind of against it? Idk
rapid oxide
21 dic 2016
balmy wolf
one thing to improve the spectator though is that you need to give the killfeed faster than the game
rapid oxide
fucking watch the videos lol
rapid oxide
21 dic 2016
its 4/5 month already
i expect something
even a minimap only
or team color
rapid oxide
tell me something i dont know 
rapid oxide
pine star
One would think the League would start with all this new spectator features
And what better place to showcase them than the WC
Right?
balmy wolf
can't be disappointed if you expected nothing 
pine star
Holy shit those old tourneys without floating health bars
I forgot how shitty it was
rapid oxide
sometimes they forgot to toggle it on 
you should put a fucking bomb on spectator mode and redo everything
i can understand the game but spectator mode is beyond trash
balmy wolf
they just need people with overhead camera view
pine star
Like in the WC
balmy wolf
even in APEX I don't believe there's that much overhead view
pine star
WC observing was pretty damn good tbh
balmy wolf
Blizzard was pulling all the stops
this year
they need to pull out all the stop PR wise
30 millions players
but only about less than 0.1 percent actually watching
supple nymph
needs more cosplay to get people watching
fanart compilations between matches
etc
pine star
toxic yacht
SpriteGuy is a mod on there and r/COW
he shills for eSports hardcore
stickies threads for it
full of info and tries everythign he can without altering the sub itself
:(
feelsbad
supple nymph
nobody in r/ow reads stickies
balmy wolf
I've started maining Mercy
pine star
And with the scale Blizzard are aiming for the League, one would expect tons of esports stuff both in the launcher and in the game itself
balmy wolf
that's the puzzling and worrying part of the discussion
balmy wolf
since on side of their mouth Blizz is like "yeah we are totally doing esport" with their 20 millions league spots
on the other side they make no attempt of trying to integrate the normies to the existing esport scene
which had been growing by itself despite that
wild quail
yes
balmy wolf
so the question then become "what the fuck are you doing", Blizz
toxic yacht
I'm assuming that the WC is an attempt at this
supple nymph
i think blizz just started to hire esports people didnt they
so its gonna be a while
toxic yacht
a few people in this channel for instance, got into eSports thanks to last year's world cup
supple nymph
before we see anything
wild quail
but i have a feeling that they will do something to incorporate endemic teams
pine star
I still stand by what I said when they announced WC
The WC will be the kickoff for the League
In some capacity
balmy wolf
yeah, and then you have normies voted in for Jason Kaplan because he had the same surname as Jeff 🤦
wild quail
inr
wild quail
the only one of the three i voted for was kyky
toxic yacht
well, at least jason knows his shit
pure kettle
😛
wild quail
because he's the coach on envy
balmy wolf
this is what happen when you don't integrate the esport scene properly
toxic yacht
and kyky is an ex-player
balmy wolf
mind you, UK voted in for Stylosa and Canada voted in for Poke
wild quail
ex-cloud9 but now he's the nV coach
balmy wolf
so things always can be worst 
wild quail
and he really brought them back to the top
but i feel like ster might actually do a good job
toxic yacht
well, actually nV started losing when they got kyky
pine star
Yeah lol what are you talking about?
toxic yacht
but there is probably no causation there
pine star
I know
pine star
But he didn't bring them to the top
toxic yacht
...because that's normal?
wild quail
he obviously didnt want to get voted in but now that he is he might actually take it seriously
balmy wolf
lolz
wild quail
?
toxic yacht
girls in vc = full vc
toxic yacht
whenever vc is full af, check if Rena is inside, lul
balmy wolf
voice chat
toxic yacht
voice channel
pine star
voice chamalan
wild quail
oh duh
wild quail
voice cannibal
supple nymph
quality stuff
pine star
lol that video
toxic yacht
lmao
pine star
It's fucking gold
toxic yacht
this twitter is glorious
pine star
Everyone in chat cracking up
Some pro posted it before that Twitter
Don't remember who tho
wild quail
lol
pine star
Funny thing is
That girl called Mercy talks exactly like a Zen main girl I know
And is also playing Zen lol
balmy wolf
when's the season end, btw?
supple nymph
"whodunnit"
pine star
SoOn
velvet scarab
10 days I think
pine star
Imagine skins like those regular recolored 50/250 gold skins, with team colors and their logo in the chest
For all heroes
solid spear
Lol
balmy wolf
they probably have red and blue skins for esport
pine star
Pls no red and blue
balmy wolf
it is not a hard task to do a recolor
pine star
That'd be way too TF2
balmy wolf
what's the alternative though
pine star
Team colored skins
balmy wolf
ideally
those team skins should be on sale and profit goes to prize pot or whatever
but i'm not sure if it will ever be the case
iron cedar
There not going to make team specific skins
pine star
k
solid spear
@pine star I posted that last week