@forest raven "Recently", ie a few weeks
#esports-discussion
forest raven
Why wasn't that announced at all
balmy wolf
no clue
Custa announced on stream
Fnatic should be able to get decent FA picks though
forest raven
Shit
balmy wolf
Stoop, idk. He is decent, but he haven't shown to be a great tank either
a good anchor point for roster, which is good for a main tank
but according to Custa
he lost motivation to play
wary falcon
Rogue 1-3?
balmy wolf
lolz
earlier in this channel someone was saying about an NA cycle with EU players and KR scene
was it @rapid oxide ?
if it were you
how would you try to avoid it?
toxic yacht
Must have been vace
rapid oxide
Just copypasted a reply on reddit
supple nymph
reported
toxic yacht
You know, on one hand, moving to NA seems automatically makes your team more shit
rapid oxide
And i kinda agree, why get Hulk? They have already Lanfrust
toxic yacht
On the other hand, bringing eu teams to na may benifit na in the long run
Dunno what I'd rather want tbh
I think na should stay bad, lol
wintry matrix
There's no team more deserving than Kongdoo Panthera to go to korea
(sorry i just woke up and heard about it, and am extremely happy with it)
wintry matrix
NV can do this, for Rogue i want them to be baguetted
vestal mortar
Yeah I wanted Rogue out of groups too
rapid oxide
slowpoke
pine star
Yes 
vestal mortar
Leave Ryujehong alone 😍
wintry matrix
only now i realized Rogue is kinda fucked in the group (and the map AOD took is hurting them now)
balmy wolf
yeah
Rogue is in a pinch
same spot as Misfits too
because groupings was rather...interesting
nV got the same favorable grouping so yeah
toxic yacht
rogue is even more fucked tbh
although, not really
LH 3-2'd, so depending on the next few matchs (probably 3-0s), They will have to 3-1 them
balmy wolf
Apex Groups 
toxic yacht
it may actually be exactly the same spot like misfits, lol
balmy wolf
📞 
: We want you back for Season 3.
📞 
: No.
📞 : We'll put you in the same group as last season.
📞 : Deal.
toxic yacht
old
balmy wolf
ik
still relevant
cant wait till Apex stops inviting Western teams so I can stop watching these shitty groups
rapid oxide
Polo normie confirmed REEEEE 
toxic yacht
and they must 3-1 LH, again
vestal mortar
I am cheering for LH >.>
pine star
Tara worst EU fan confirmed
balmy wolf
Unless they become gods at 2CP, coordination and NiCO gets over his anxiety
stoic dragon
AGHHH I MISSED KDP PLAY
balmy wolf
they're losing
stoic dragon
VODS HERE I GO
vestal mortar
confirmed, LH is one of my weaknesses
stoic dragon
tara you just love ryujehong
pine star
Jehong 
Zunba EscA 
balmy wolf
did the old Rogue roster somehow run over the feet of a KR god and now Rogue/Misfits have to pay penance for beating LH 4-1 in APEX?
vestal mortar
It's true, Ryujehong is my weakness 😭
stoic dragon
wait this was a bad mistake coming here
not wanting to know results
heading to vods. see yall next week
vestal mortar
Cya!
stoic dragon
BYE
vestal mortar
We miss you already
toxic yacht
lol, wolf is right
Rogue tilted some KR god with the 4-1
now any team that has remnants of rogue is getting punished by being put into shitty groups and getting their assholes drilled by LH
wintry matrix
now that i think about it, the only established tier 1 team that Rogue defeated was NV (which still has it's problems), so Rogue's dominance isn't that impressive
toxic yacht
Eh, they beat LH
wintry matrix
wait, when?
wintry matrix
oh, i was talking about new Rogue
toxic yacht
ah, new rogue
new rogue was just crushing NA teams like nV during their glorious winstreak
and just like nV, they are really good
but not uncontensted #1 like a lot of people acted like
they'd probably already have lost a few matches if they'd still be in EU
wintry matrix
not denying that, i dunno much about NV's period of dominance, but Rogue kinda have a bit of an easy time due to how inconstant most NA teams are
only Selfless (and NV) are showing to be rising up to the challenge
or other teams like LGL and Faze which are just crashing down rapidly (Liquid actually improved a bit)
supple nymph
wintry matrix
(and i'm really surprised Rogue won 2cp against KDP)
balmy wolf
@wintry matrix that's the curious part
shit at 2cp, suddenly won, but lost every other maps
like wut
limber pine
balmy wolf
I mean honestly, Rogue didn't do too bad
Like nothing was really a stomp except for maybe the last attack on R66
If NiCO can just get out of his slump and fix the miscommunication, I think they'll go a long way
but idk if they can fix that in like
2 weeks?
till their game vs LH?
vestal mortar
Hopefully they can fix their problems, it's really sad seeing them competing at LAN and not at their best that we've been seeing for months. :C
vestal mortar
Yeah they were working so hard
frank frigate
GoOoOooOod morning everyone, I just posted this week's reddit-edition of the Meta Report:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/6arr0f/overwatch_hero_meta_report_the_real_sombras_of/
Koreans are getting ahead of the meta by playing more Sombra to shut down DVa and control their healthpacks on defense, pretty neat stuff. I talked to C9's coach, Bishop, who helped explain why this works 👌
Let me know what you think in the comments or by @ 'ing me here, i'll be driving to work but i'll read them all
note, does not contain rogue matches from last night
vestal mortar
Ayyy thanks Captain Planet!
balmy wolf
aKm always performs on LAN though
Even if Rogue are losing you wouldn't be dissapointed in his play
pure kettle
nooo, don't shut down d.va she's my bae. 😦
dam koreans!
taking down one of their own 😏
iron cedar
Jesus where was he before the buff?
balmy wolf
I would get sick of it too
wintry matrix
yeah, as much as he brought it on himself
iron cedar
What meme?
supple nymph
http://imgur.com/a/VlvIS#i1AJVd8 getting those widow kills
wintry matrix
Twitter
pine star
@iron cedar he said "Rogue was showing those mid tier NA teams that they're mid tier", then lost to YGGP
So he's now mid tier Hafficool until the end of times
iron cedar
lol
balmy wolf
I mean he even admitted it on twitter after losing
and it still gets posted
poor guy : [
pine star
It won't get any better anytime soon
toxic yacht
it was funny when fnatic was losing games, but saying it in ranked is just stupid
pine star
Poggers 
balmy wolf
Yeah but at least those are recent
or still happening
This mid tier Fnatic meme should have died months ago
toxic yacht
it should have died after the OMM February
the meme reached its peak after fnatic lost to mid-tier NA teams imo
balmy wolf
Thats what I was implying by saying "months ago"
supple nymph
@wintry matrix i thought dummy got to gm https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/dummy
🤔
toxic yacht
eh, aimer was also master at one point
also, dummy decayed
the dropoff is too sudden and constant
also, no points in-between
which implies that there are no reference points apart from last week
rapid oxide
Ladder its irrelevant anyway
toxic yacht
^
well, dafran and sinatraa got picked up from ladder, right?
it does matter to some degree, but not a lot
spring lintel
Guys does anyone have a screenshot of when I said that rogue wouldn't be get out of groups?
wintry matrix
I mean, top of the ladder can be good advertisement, still not a clear transition to "pro" skill
balmy wolf
Sinatraa took a long time to fully transitioned into pro
so there's a transition period
toxic yacht
I mean, gale is also really good on ladder, wouldn't feel safe with instantly putting him on a team
his mechanics are solid af
balmy wolf
Ladder is just proving that you have good mechanical skill and above average game sense
wintry matrix
also bc how easy is to cheese your way in our out of rank, also how a lot of top 500 just play less than 100 games
balmy wolf
that's about it
toxic yacht
but playing on a team is very different
balmy wolf
Silkthread being #1 got him to ring for teams
wintry matrix
YGGP and Denial right?
toxic yacht
he used to be on "we made silkthread"
supple nymph
toxic yacht
then he started his boosting service
pine star
Cancer
toxic yacht
that's what he is
wintry matrix
i think i couldn't be blinder, then i met the white theme
spring lintel
Thanks ford
toxic yacht
well, "we made silkthread" was only a temporary team
for the OW Reddit Cup
so yeah, just the boosting service
lol
he's a god though
supple nymph
pine star
spring lintel
Wait this needs context
supple nymph
not really
spring lintel
Maybe it was before apex started?
Or before AoD match against rogue
Rogue needs to seriously learn how to be flexible
wintry matrix
Rogue does seem the type of team that would panic if things don't go their way at first
spring lintel
LH can easily switch their comp around
But rogue cant do anything but one tricks
Maybe nico can switch a bit
The others will get disoriented if they switch
balmy wolf
i don't think it is one trick as much as Rogue chose to run this way to leverage their strenths
which is world class DPS
spring lintel
They have been doing the same exact comp/style for months
balmy wolf
the problem vs KR is that you are up against teams who won't let you outmuscled like that
since their tank line > NA tank line
and so is support
spring lintel
KR play in a systemic way, they barely leave anything to luck
balmy wolf
Rogue is probably closest in term of KR level coordination
supple nymph
@spring lintel https://clips.twitch.tv/GiftedTenuousLyrebirdJonCarnage
balmy wolf
and even then they had their brainfairt moment
spring lintel
I mean they are consistent
balmy wolf
in the long run though
balmy wolf
Rogue can only benefits from it
since NA tier competition might just dull their edge
and i mean if i have to beat LG Evil, CLG of the world
and only Selfless that can bring you full resistance
spring lintel
Yeah not much they can do
balmy wolf
then yeah Rogue needs some ass kicking to sharpen their blade.
past oar
lol at akm's twit
velvet scarab
Rip
balmy wolf
back when I was spitballing my take on US WC roster
people downvoted me for not wanting to include Seagull
because of last year and streaming
and guess what? Now Seagull said the same damn thing and everyone just kind of agree
vestal mortar
I still want Seagull on the team :'C
toxic yacht
well, this sucks since he's one of the best projectile dps in NA
but it's 100% understandable
vestal mortar
I understand but it makes me so sad, I love watching Seagull play on a team so much.
balmy wolf
Obviously worse than Seagull can
toxic yacht
but it got the job done
toxic yacht
maby he improved now
balmy wolf
hes not busy
supple nymph
i hope he at least stops streaming while the wc is on so they get some viewers
toxic yacht
ow tmz
I love this
I mean, putting seagull on the roster would make sense because it will bring in a ton of views + he's good, but based off his commitment to streaming it would make no sense
feelsbad
I just wanna watch gull play in a team again :(
vestal mortar
Me too Sojum, me too. 😢
supple nymph
go on reddit and tell him?
toxic yacht
?
vestal mortar
"Hello Seagull, I love you. - Taraforest"
toxic yacht
lol
balmy wolf
NRG still pay him the streaming deal
so yes.
one of these days I should ping Jason Kaplan and see what is his idea for an US team
getting voted in because his surname is Kaplan
r/OW, what are you doing
velvet scarab
hes still on the nrg roster too
velvet scarab
just inactive
supple nymph
on one of the overwatch talk shows they thought 5% of the voters actually follow esports at all
😃
supple nymph
add her to the long list that needs rework?
balmy wolf
I recall him playing him a few times during their winstreak
and maybe a little at the open?
balmy wolf
like he has good hanzo stats in qp
toxic yacht
so I'd assume that he's very good
toxic yacht
like, ShaDowBurn's hanzo is also really fucking scary
too bad that he barely ever plays him
but if seagull can't join I'd think that tale would be a solid projectile pickup
toxic yacht
he can also flex to hog when required, although he probably didn't pick up zarya during his ded period
balmy wolf
some of Flame's picks was a bit suspect
but I definitely think that xRetzi is good enough to be NA hitscan candidates
GrimReality is in a slump right now
proj DPS is lacking for NA though
tanks and supports in NA are dime a dozen though
toxic yacht
yeah, definitely
NA has a serious lack of projectile players
most of the good ones are already on a team
balmy wolf
Team USA should pick up Abilities
i mean you could put JAKE in but given his love for picking Pharah and the get out Pharah by other team....
guy should stop trying to be a discount Tviq
too bad there isn't any NA Genji one trick in NA ladderboard
as funny as that sounds
toxic yacht
inb4 silkthread
balmy wolf
I want silkthread to finish highschool already
so I can see more of his Genji and Tracer
toxic yacht
and KR genjis are on another level anyway
balmy wolf
Silkthread want to focus on college
toxic yacht
I could also see jake on dps, but he always takes the pharmercy duel and horribly loses
rapid oxide
Kayuun 
balmy wolf
so unless there's a really really fat checks
toxic yacht
he's good on pharah vs the ground
ivory robin
Kr genjis arent on another lvl
balmy wolf
he probably won't
ivory robin
we are just worse
toxic yacht
but honestly trash in air battles
balmy wolf
Kayuun might actually be a good choice
balmy wolf
like if EG is playing well in the upcoming Rumble
then I can definitely see Kayuun in contention
ivory robin
see in KR Jp China they force their kids to be good at school and stuff so they end up learning to remember stuff so good
and they adjust on certain situations better than most people
rapid oxide
🙏
vestal mortar
👀
ivory robin
that makes "Insert random hero" KR mains adjust on situations and make better decisions faster and better
It just that they trained their brain better on doing that certain thing
balmy wolf
xRetzi, Kayuun, MESR, Harbleu/Coolmatt69, Dahang, Rapha
Anyone remember aKm's 5 airshots in a row in Rumble?
vestal mortar
pure kettle
could have something to do with that 3591835083105 character alphabet they have 😄
ivory robin
they are shit when start playing a new hero but end up amazing when they have enough hours with him
Im amazed to how well asians can adjust on this kind of things 😛
balmy wolf
for one the KR ladder is not exactly prone to shit like NA ladder
ivory robin
Since i wasnt able to ever focus on single stuff i was getting bored fast and was going for new stuff
balmy wolf
like one tricks
ivory robin
that's why i cant main any hero and use every single one
that makes me a better solo queqe player but a worse player overall
since my personality bumps in and i get salty i cant use my abillity to fit with any hero 😛
Anyone knows a good way to stop being salty af?
pure kettle
buy a fidget spinner 😛
vestal mortar
Oooh nice I love reading about LH's coach! 😮
ivory robin
Anyone up for comp ?
vestal mortar
I have never been a salty gamer so I cannot help you there
ivory robin
Diamond +
vestal mortar
ivory robin
Sometimes im salty sometimes im fine
balmy wolf
Every team is finding their own color right now. He is surprised at the progress that the other Korean teams are having adapting to the 3 DPS meta. According to scrims, most teams have found a solid counter strategy to 3 DPS by this week and are practicing it, as well as forming their own strong comp that works against other teams. This is why he believes that the match against Mighty AOD next week will be extremely hard - he thinks that AOD was still struggling on finding their ideal comp when they fought Rogue, and believes they may have finished doing so by next week.
pure kettle
i get salty at myself
balmy wolf
tfw AOD beat LH
ivory robin
it depends on how my day went and how my games before the one im playing went
Sometimes i go lucky "what the hell did i just do?" "why did i do that am i retard?" 
Like* not lucky
vestal mortar
Careful not to get too off topic, this chat isn't really for discussing how you play/your attitude in comp it's for esports.
supple nymph
stylosa is an expert bronze/silver/gold coach
pine star
Per the cast he was in with Chanman, he's doing well with the committee
vestal mortar
I think that OP is a joke and that the addition of committees etc has made the World cup less of a joke than last year.
pine star
He knows his places and knows who the actual pro are
balmy wolf
it doesn't help though is that he was the one that was trying to get into a cheerleading position with the committee pick
vestal mortar
Yeah didn't Stylosa talk about how he felt like a fish out of water last year? I'm sure he will want the best people for the team.
balmy wolf
and then said something like "we are doomed against Sweden, Finland and SK anyway"
like bruh, nice way to show your competitive and patriotic spirit with that
pine star
He got other UK pros and analysts to help the committee
And is helping with VODs for the scrims
People shit on him without need
supple nymph
esports vod reviews might be different than the kind he do
pine star
Yeah I accept that was stupid to say
supple nymph
it's ok every committee is kinda dumb 😃
pine star
@supple nymph he knows that, he's providing them for analyst
pine star
@balmy wolf he pretty much is, and he acknowledges that
supple nymph
pine star
He also said that he will help bring exposure to the team, whatever that means
Which is what he's good at
supple nymph
click-bait team related videos
balmy wolf
last year he didn't bring any exposure to UK campaign
i very doubt he can
or he will
now
pine star
He said last year's wc was rushed af
I mean, he basically has the same opinion on him being there as most people has, and is trying to do what he can to help the team if what he said in the podcast is to be believed
Go easy on the guy lol
balmy wolf
until there's proof on the pudding
let's just say that i'm skeptical about him
still though
balmy wolf
at least UK wanted Stylosa in
I doubt NA actually wanted Jason Kaplan in
NA wanted Jeff
supple nymph
LMAO
pine star
The fact that he knows that he's probably not the best choice for it and bridged actual analyst and coaches says a lot
pure kettle
😄
balmy wolf
no disrespect to Jason, he is still a good choice, but getting voted in because of his surname is just kind of eh
balmy wolf
@pine star he wanted to get fucking RyanCentral in with. That alone is like 5 different red alarms
@supple nymph Poke.
pure kettle
NA likes them memes and trends, its how we sustain our society here.
balmy wolf
just one word.
supple nymph
well poke 2nd
balmy wolf
Poke is the worst one those two
at least fuckin' Huk manages an esport team
and I can bet that orgs are trying to get in favor of him to pick their guys
pine star
He didn't
supple nymph
a tier 3 one
balmy wolf
I know that Flame actually get those offers
supple nymph
does that even matter
balmy wolf
it does at least show that Huk have an idea of how to run a team though
unlike say...Poke
@pine star his first tweet was advocating for him, RyanCentral and OAM.
balmy wolf
that replies chain was a dozey
@supple nymph it remains too be seen
Canada is stacked though
pine star
Yeah true
balmy wolf
Agilities, Surefour, Train, xQC (oh god why), Roolf, Joemeister/Phaz
fucking stacked right there
supple nymph
if 2/3 of the committee is who knows if they will even get the good players
pine star
Hope UK doesn't get stomped, because if they do we all know who people will blame lmao
balmy wolf
I might pick Chance instead of xQc just because xQc
supple nymph
they will blame the general overwatch players?
vestal mortar
🐍
balmy wolf
vestal mortar
Heh
balmy wolf
skill wise, he is decent
but yeah
xQC is just kind of toxic to be around and play with
supple nymph
what's he smell like?
balmy wolf
shit.
you could also put Train in instead of xQC
Train is less consistent
and more of a Reinhardt one trick though
clever wagon
What>
pine star
I believe you are confusing Train with Super
clever wagon
Even then Super is NA
pine star
Exactly
clever wagon
Train is Canada but he's a flex
Actually like LGE Train Jake Voll all rotate anything that's not support or anchor tank
clever wagon
With the exception of Jake being the one that never plays DVa in the team
pine star
Train is dps/flex and also a weeb
pine star
He is
clever wagon
They all 3 flex most not-support or main tank heroes
Only Jake never takes DVa
Hm
Correction
Voll is mostly off-tank
Train is the flex being the one that noticeably plays DVa, Tracer, Soldier, Hog
solid spear
I've seen Voll 76
clever wagon
Yeah but not as much as Train/Jake
Mostly off tank because he's on DVa/Zarya more often
solid spear
Well mostly Jake is on it
Im saying Train doesnt play it anymore than Voll
Train is usually on Tracer if hes on dps
pine star
The point is Train doesn't ever touches Reinhardt lol
solid spear
Yeah lul
blazing parrot
malaysian all girls team
wintry matrix
what's the reason anyway for shutting down AMM?
blazing parrot
interesting
pine star
We don't know, hasn't been disclosed @wintry matrix
balmy wolf
Anyone else remember Super destroying on Tracer?
I think it was one of the melees
Anubis last
Dont remember who vs
clever wagon
As far as I can remember the most times they yolo quad dps with Super on Tracer is on 2cp
I remember images of LGE Hanamura offense in 1st point, dont remember which match
balmy wolf
I just remember being so surprised that he was doing so well on Tracer
I only knew him for his rein
He got like 2 teamkills on his own
toxic yacht
@wintry matrix blizzard stated that they couldn't guarentee any dates past may
so they just decided to not have the OMM so that it doesn't overlap with whatever the fuck blizz is doing
toxic yacht
we have no idea wtf blizzard is planning
It made enough sense to make them cancel the melees
pure kettle
if we're lucky Xbox will keep up their track record of spoiling blizzards secrets.
😉
stoic dragon
Finally watching vods
On map 3
Wtf is up with KDP always dicking around with two wins
velvet scarab
i think they know they already won so they just try out random stuff and see if they can win with it
stoic dragon
Its like they're like haha lets screw with cix's emotions
vestal mortar
Wait, have we always had an esports discussion voice channel or have am I blind?
balmy wolf
Its new
vestal mortar
solid spear
balmy wolf
sweet
supple nymph
vestal mortar
Haha that was good, I love these kinds of videos
pine star
"Good morning gordo" lol
balmy blade
if u need a team we need 2 more people for our competitive team message me if u wanna join
pine star
That'd be in #lf-players-na @balmy blade
balmy blade
im doing it everywhere
vestal mortar
rapid oxide
funny part i know harryhook since a shitty f2p game and was the best already
i mean... very skilled
pine star
Gordo
vestal mortar
Hehe
supple nymph
balmy wolf
? @supple nymph
supple nymph
@balmy wolf ?
balmy wolf
why post that here?
vestal mortar
blazing parrot
pine star
supple nymph
OW in six months https://www.twitch.tv/riotgames
rapid oxide
keep beliving
supple nymph
160k viewers OWL ezpz
rapid oxide
it could be done
supple nymph
just realized both these teams are SK
rapid oxide
make the game easier to spectate and make the game less "i build ulti fast and do nothing meanwhile"
supple nymph
another unintentional look into the future
pine star
@rapid oxide what are you talking about? Dive is like the opposite of that lmao
supple nymph
just looked at the list of top league teams
almost all SK
that's the future i guess
rapid oxide
i would increase rate for ult charge more
ult are built too much faster
are you surprised ford?
cs fags are lucky that kr don't consider csgo otherwise kr will dominate cs too
supple nymph
i thought given the amount of big tournaments in NA and EU it wouldnt be so badly SK dominated
but i guess not
supple nymph
yea it's farming a lot of the time
and there's 134 heroes
i dont know how it's more difficult to watch than OW
guess it creates lots of jobs for KR translators though 😛
brave spoke
same thing will happen with ow. Korea dominating the scene.
blazing parrot
digital pond
We need to be like Dota and be dominated by a different region every year \0.0/
balmy wolf
eh, idk about SK dominating CSGO
even if SK wants to.
SK are notoriously worse at dominating FPS than RTS
or MOBAs
SK OW is kind of got the headstart in term of a. learning from Western OW and b. having the infrastuture that create growth
but CSGO is a completely different ballgame
with scene from Brazil, Poland, Sweden, Denmark, America all vying for domination
and CSGO infrastucture is more or less in placed, unlike other esport where it is a catch up game.
solid spear
I think the Korean domination thing is overstated in general
thats not the case in like most games
balmy wolf
right now though
Western OW can catch up
especially EU
NA is kind of lost tbh
unless they all decided to just fucking boot camp in KR for 2 weeks
pure kettle
lol
balmy wolf
solid spear
white background triggers me
balmy wolf
It should
White theme = cancer
White theme users = cancer
especially at night when you set everything to night mode
holy fuck my eyes
supple nymph
supple nymph
👀
clever wagon
What the fuck?
balmy wolf
well not really there are sources apparently
not in good relationship with gods and s4
solid spear
@digital pond these boys trying to shake me
digital pond
Ah yes the mysterious sources I hear all the time.
supple nymph
supple nymph
might not be teams much longer for drama to come from
solid spear
Aglities KR game just went 9 to 9 and is still going lmao
clever wagon
Must be 2cp
supple nymph
shame,
clever wagon
He's not giving enough reasons for anybody to trust him again anyway
supple nymph
shame
blazing parrot
🕯
balmy wolf
@clever wagon @digital pond https://www.over.gg/3978/selly-to-return-to-korea-after-being-removed-from-cloud9 @severe dew
🤔
clever wagon
Jfc
severe dew
...
clever wagon
Probably tagged the wrong guy
severe dew
Probably
clever wagon
Seriously though, if not for OWL insiders looking so optimistic
digital pond
Rip C9 dream
I'm sure he'll be on the map his hitscan is pretty damn good. Esp his Cree.
balmy wolf
solid spear
NUUUUUU
forest raven
The Fnatic roster at current is Custa, Coolmatt, Buds and Talespin
solid spear
Realzx no?
balmy wolf
wait wut
forest raven
balmy wolf
Tale is confirmed?
forest raven
Right from custa's strim
forest raven
Said they're trialing a rein player called "Shane"
solid spear
Shane like ShaneisaGhost?
forest raven
Idk
onyx shore
solid spear
I need to just getit over with and steal slowpoke
balmy wolf
solid spear
I just noticed the "There is no indication so far that Selly attempted any sort of coup" line from the over.gg article lol
wintry matrix
I mean, aside from the chump countries that will just import a team, there's the issue of how to conciliate WC practice and team practice
wait, there's no tourneys anymore anyway
wintry matrix
i hope this means NV is tight already with strats
thick cosmos
Anyone know when takeover 2 qualifier 2 starts?
gentle shuttle
@thick cosmos here ya go http://takeover.taketv.net/article/56/overwatch-takeover-2-powered-by-predator-announcement its in the pinned list
rapid oxide
feral solar
so i fell asleep during the rogue game yesterday and just got to watch the vod.. holy shit
pine star
Yeah
Styled
It's almost like Raskal on the 3rd map said "lmao guys, should we just give them one map for the lolz?"
feral solar
out of all the map types i didnt except rogue to win 2cp haha
pine star
Same
balmy wolf
3-1 never really reflected how competitive it is though
still though, KDP is a hard opponent to beat
and they are kind of built to kill Rogue
Rogue vs LH will be interesting though, historically and league-wise
rapid oxide
https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/863286962710396929 Monte "Ego" Cristo
Twitter
pine star
Nothing new really lol
We all know Monte is a self fellatio enthusiast before being a Korean fellatio enthusiast
feral solar
this is why monte and thorin get along together so well haha
i like them though
they make good content
pine star
Thorin is an absolute dipshit
Which is why I follow him
He just pours so much salt and scrubs fall for it every single time
It's fucking hilarious
balmy wolf
C9
more like Clowns9
with the way they keep rotating players in and out like a circus
according to the post and what i've heard
personality conflict with S4 and gods
while also a very aggressive DPS player who might not fit well with B1shop way of playing
rapid oxide
Choke9
feral solar
they are not much different than their csgo team
good potential but they just never work out well together ingame
feral solar
its cause they dont have many options in NA
everyone is under big buyouts
or just shit
supple nymph
...
toxic yacht
HIgh quality EU Overwatch here
https://clips.twitch.tv/KitschyLazyLettuceVoHiYo
btw, eUnited is out of the qualifiers
they probably got invited
toxic yacht
nope, only german
supple nymph
NA is the only region that hates sombra
again sombra on d
eu meta 😮
sombra on both teams
😄
toxic yacht
EU meta is actually super interesting
and not very stale
according to Reinforce they also already have triple dps counters
gentle shuttle
#EUgang-gang
pure kettle
I heard Trump has blizzard building a wall to keep Sombra out of NA meta. 😏
pure kettle
😬
toxic yacht
and kneejerk too much
also, once something works they try to force meta and never do anything new
like quad tank cancer
rapid oxide
pure kettle
gross. lol
supple nymph
LOL
gentle shuttle
kreyy
gentle shuttle
man this is some good shit
vestal mortar
Nupe
clever wagon
This casual couch casting is nice to see in OW
vestal mortar
This is so good 👌
supple nymph
rolled
toxic yacht
cwoosh is my dad
supple nymph
LMAO
solid spear
Nice
toxic yacht
well, at least they're getting fucking destroyed
solid spear
Nice off meta picks
toxic yacht
what kind of picks apart from sombra do you expect tbh?
apart from super niche shit like hanzo there is no off-meta pick that would work for this map
and hanzo is bad on this nepal stage
the only thing I could imagine is cree, and he's kinda bad vs quad tank
also, wtf is up with finnsi's gravs? He's scary af
wtf is finnsi hoon?
@solid spear @gentle shuttle @supple nymph
@vestal mortar
supple nymph
@severe dew you watching?
toxic yacht
well, rip
vestal mortar
Aww but I love hearing the occasional "holy shit"
rapid oxide
But everything thats <10 k doesn't have this requirements right?
toxic yacht
TakeOver is 50k
rapid oxide
I know
toxic yacht
but yeah, everything below 10k doesn't need that
rapid oxide
In case i want to do a tourney
rapid oxide
Make sense
toxic yacht
it's also good, lol
because they then can't force their bullshit rules on tournaments
toxic yacht
dunno
there is something on their site that details all of the information, but I'm too lazy to read tht
quasi python
are they gonna stream valfard match?
vernal halo
Gimme some nice streams that are on rn guys
supple nymph
@vernal halo https://www.twitch.tv/yuuie
solid spear
Watch TakeOver
balmy wolf
?
Go! 
toxic yacht
lol, rip stream
supple nymph
wintry matrix
TakeOver qualifiers still running
maiden quiver
rip valfard 😦
wintry matrix
UB Team
gentle shuttle
only get stoopid when it's a NA tourney
wintry matrix
that's because you didn't the saw the one moon spammer before
wintry matrix
he was making himself clear
gentle shuttle
i wont hear a word against it 🤣
quasi python
dat spawn camp omg
wintry matrix
also bc you can't have a not peaceful chat when you don't have enough views
gentle shuttle
sigh true 😢
gentle shuttle
jesus christ on a saltine cracker
vestal mortar
😭
wintry matrix
dignitas did so well in the pit :feelsbadman:
gentle shuttle
I wanna say all the orgs leaving might prompt blizzard to act a bit faster about disclosing news about the league but i doubt it
wintry matrix
i think if they quit is especially because of information
well, that and also rosters that weren't performing
but dignitas 
gentle shuttle
damn somebody just made me bet which teams would be next out of the bunch about a week ago
and i said Loyal and Fnatic
wintry matrix
and there's still 2 more to quit
it would amaze me if all these teams disband, but faze still remains
digital pond
Everyone is going off of Alicus apparently saying there would be 5 more teams.
So everyone is waiting on 2 more teams.
clever wagon
@gentle shuttle
I wanna say all the orgs leaving might prompt blizzard to act a bit faster about disclosing news about the league but i doubt it
Blizzard will probably act only when they think OWL is actually failing
LUL
Not saying I'm hoping for it
But seeing a lot of things regarding OWL have only made endemic esport orgs turn their back on OW one after another
floral harness
How is Dignitas' financial situation ? I know that fnatic is struggling so I'm not surprised but Dignitas ? They had a good team and the org is pretty big.. I don't understand
gentle shuttle
they're backed by the 76ers so that's probably a non-issue
wintry matrix
wait, i forgot that, how come they drop the roster? just pick another one?
floral harness
I see 2 options for this. 1) They drop the current roster to buy/form a more talented one. 2) They know they will not have a spot in OWL for X reason and decide to give up
balmy wolf
Just like how Splyce had money
But dropped out aswell
Probably due to the "cant promise revenue till after 2021" thing
floral harness
'' We care about endemic orgs'' Yeaah bullshit..
rapid oxide
LG Loyal was obvious the disband
Fnatic had shit results on APEX
Dignitas had good results but EU=No money
As the article says... Combine should be lit af tho
balmy wolf
I didnt expect Fnatic at all tbh
With them picking up Realzx and trailing Talespin and another person for DPS
digital pond
I mean it could just be.
rapid oxide
Didn't expect but im not surprised either
digital pond
"Hey should we pay players until OWL comes out or save all of our fucking money for the OWL?
nocturne sable
How many roster changes has Fnatic gone through recently?
digital pond
"Considering Ow isn't exactly making us much money ANYWAY"
"Yeah let's save money guys"
rapid oxide
Do you blame them?
digital pond
Nah, I'm saying it could be that and not them turning their back on OWL
Once you get a spot getting players won't be the biggest of issue
balmy wolf
Hammers vs Riders rematch
They dropped Haffi and Vonethil late april @nocturne sable
nocturne sable
Any others recently?
nocturne sable
I don't believe Dig has made any recent roster changes
nocturne sable
Didn't think so
LG Loyal was pretty expected though, they've been going to less tourneys anyways
balmy wolf
Ube trialied for NRG and their recent performances have been less than adequate
So yeah, excepted
supple nymph
dusty surge
Wow, so is Korea the only competitive scene now?
supple nymph
i think all of asia
wintry matrix
stable yes
supple nymph
unless they stop those tournaments too
wintry matrix
oh, forgot them
solid spear
I just remembered the survivors twitter tweeted Fnatic members on another island :<
toxic yacht
@balmy wolf to cheer you up, movi vs hammers just started
dusty surge
Jesus. Professional OW is going to be dead before OWL even gets off the ground.
solid spear
pure kettle
Idk how like football and soccer pro leagues became a thing
but one could assume it was kinda similar?
so maybe this is a natural course of events? no idea.
balmy wolf
yeah i know, ive been watching lol @toxic yacht
toxic yacht
mfw when I want both teams
also, this feels like the finals for some NA tournament
lol
and the tournament hasn't even begun
spring jackal
balmy wolf
supple nymph
wipe out
rapid oxide
Plot twist: SK, Echo Fox, Optic, G2, NaVi, Virtus Pro join OW 
solid spear
my optimism is gone at this point tbh
balmy wolf
We already knew it wasnt over
toxic yacht
well, let's look at it this way