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he played cree, genji, junkrat, mei and 76
during dreamhack
maybe something else that I missed
I honestly dont even remember if i watched DH
his mei at the ow open was arguably the best
Esport History only starts when NRG current roster was made
I remember you telling me that you didn't watch it
he also played reaper, but reaper is dead
Yeah lot of people played reaper
I remember his other heroes
Back when he could actually do stuff
yeah, cooller was their lucio
Was just wondering if he played 76
yeah, he was the soldier bot during dreamhack
because SoOn was too busy showing off his tracer
like, all of this SOON BEST TRACER shit started right after dreamhack
because SoOn was basically tracer 24/7
I don't mind SoOn all the time on Tracer tbh
i feel like i havent seen aKm's cree in years
at least tracer is more interesting to watch
yeah, lul
he pulled out his cree like, once or twice
:(
Blizzard is ruining my life
๐ Hey Jeff ๐ No skins in tourneys is ruining my life ๐
I have no baby rage emote sorry
b a b y r a g e

wish spectator mode will be improved for wc
otherwise i will be mad
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Gonn abe upsetto
cwoooosh montage
Doubt we'll get a new spectator mode until OWL
shut up weab dont ruin my dreams reee
@rapid oxide last year observing was top notch
i agree
Wow go away ya nerd
:' (
Dreaming is only for the Trix rabbit
Do you guys need privacy?
He's on the Spanish committee
That's kewl. I wondered if Dhak was gonna make that committee
He's on the team for sure
he's a good tank :(
I'd say the whole committee is on the team actually
ye i know
just wanted to mention it
Team spain is actually pretty stacked
Too bad they wont do as good as Sweden and France so they cant do anything
If Misfit didn't exist I would wanna see Dafran there
cool, there is actually a copy and paste error in Blizzards terms for the World Cup for players.
wut @serene spoke
I miss McCree
Cree is prop gonna see more play if soldier changes come through
Since Pharah will be a tad bit stronger.
Soldier still better stay woke
Not just Korea doing whatever they want
like, you watch the takeover qualifiers
idc about these stupid korean mccrees
I instantly see Cree
i wanna see my dads play him
I watch Apex

I wanna see NA players play more mccree
see 2 crees
A N G E R Y

idc if Korea does it Korea does everything
You're acting like I dont watch that stuff idv
They could run 6 tanks and win and I wouldn't be surprised
I mean, there is a LOT of Cree in apex
Im trying to watcj Akm, and Idd and Taimou and all these boys go back
The only cree i like watching in Apex is Taimou and Saya
Idc bout Koreans
Blizzard has formed "a dedicated division within the company that will handle management, operation, sales, and distribution for Overwatch esports programs, including the Overwatch League
and Overwatch World Cup. The division will be integrated into Major League Gaming, and retain its name.
That's why we precised NA after
Saya 180 flashbang into that tracer 
We want western Creeees
Flow3r is okay i guess
racist
Soldier too good smh
sections 10.1 and 10.2 are copies of each other. 10.1 (Group Stage Prizing) says that every player is responsible for his own travel visa, if hes qualified for the Tournament Finals.
Bring back beta McCree
Bring Back Beta Widow
how the fuck did i was able to 
Bring back 50 energy Zarya per bubble
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Oh shit, MLG
Lol when I type bring back my phone puts sniper McCree and beta McCree as my top 2 options to write lol

The "please use our website" MLG?
much excitement
It doesn't suck
The issue isn't even that.
But it's not twitch
People aren't gonna go to another website
Theres that clip btw https://clips.twitch.tv/EnthusiasticCovertGerbilFUNgineer
And search through or put the effort generally.
They did last year
godly
Cause Twitch is Twitch
I mean on the same level Sulli
When MLG ran dota tournament obv people watched it
@balmy wolf 
wtf ster and jason kaplan for USA committee?
I was more surprised by Jason than Ster
Haven't seen much of Jason in general lately
It will also operate the MLG-branded media network, which will broadcast both Blizzard and Activision esports content as well as...

What if they increase McCree damage to 100 would my dads use him
didn't everyone assume it would be run by mlg?
i mean why else would they have bought them out
I think the assumption was that streams would be on different outlets
at 100 dmg even i will play mcree
The way LCS did it
Yeah I know
MLG website doesn't have Twich emotes
But it's still sad
Makes me sad
No more pog champs 

just install the twitch emotes everywhere thing
lul, I love how everyone is just popping up to whine about the USA committee
including me
keep your whines on hold until you see actual teams
Shouldve put me on the committee tbh
might be not as bad as people make it
Would've gotten Keph
The KEphrii soloq 6 stack starter pack
Get KEphrii, let him recruit for 5 hours before he plays one game.
I trust the committee, I just love bitching about everything

It's the joke
I'm fun at parties
Ha you at parties
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I used to actually try anfd watch his stream before v0v
they made a deal with the devil

@rapid oxide witchcraft
These bois lol
starboard is hilarious af haha
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do you still have to work with them when it's over?
lul, he's probably crying rn
I mean Zebbo and Tviq are surely gonna body him
Best case is we get chips or something at least
lol polo, it's fucking obvious i want to spank you holy hell
Praw Kombo
who the fuck are Movistar Riders lmao, probably noobs
you think that was a serious question?
you think i was serious?
i can never tell
die polo
wth Sojum
everyone is so toxic I don't know anything anymore 
I'm trusted
Trust me
No one
esports is the way tara
you can trust me
No
I saw it with my own eyes
You should trust me tara
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You and I share a homeland
Hmm
True
What character is in need of buffs
WOW HOW ABOUT THAT THROW
I think that's how you know who to trust
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SideshowGaming: Blizzard combines with MLG to create a new division to handle Overwatch esports. OWL info slowly trickling out!
very slowly 
Mickie ๐
too slowly 
I was testing something
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no, I was testing something, lul
inb4 kyky hates grego
McManus26 61 points 3 hours ago
To anyone wondering, Alphacast, Degun and Troma are on stream right now and all confirmed that Rogue will be the French team. So, see you at the final ?
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Finals SK vs France confirmed
Tbh I hope they do get to the finals
So we get a competitive final
I'd hate for them to just fucking met before an eliminate each other

And we don't end up with a France/SK vs Brasil finals or something
usa vs russia
You can apply that to NA teams too lul
at least NA teams had NGE
we're talking about past LANs though
Still
Dreamhack was after ESL
And Open
also, OW Open was between those two
Forgot about that
The tournament where Misfits got the most godlike last minute subs ever lol
fuckin hidan
Cooller
lul
Hidan and Ryb
No that was Dreamhack
I'm worried that my past with a committee member might hurt my chances, so I'm going to subtly impugn his integrity on Twitter. Great plan.
being on the canadian committee is gonna be fun for the guys besides huk
Guess who he's talking about
since hes known as a giant asshole
Hint: 
who goes crazy if you disagree with him
Pesto just talking about Grego but whatever
he's talking about grego
He's not @rapid oxide
Yeah, im tard. Dont mind me
Yup
I love pesto btw
remember how grego said that he left the active roster because of personality conflicts but didn't want to name anybody so that he doesn't drag anyone's name through the dirt?
LUL
What are the chances I won't even be in the vote for one of the players of USA. rdy to be Scumazzed just like the first world cup.
ohhhh noey grego
Tbh Grego seems to have a really strong personality
but I don't know shit so
He has
I feel like it would be kyky
But Grego is not an angel imo
Grego probably shouldn't have tweeted about it though :C
^
til the word "impugn"
Same
Such a passive aggressive tweet, completely unnecessary
@gentle shuttle that's just Pesto being Pesto lol
Pesto is love, pesto is life
Meh
who dat
Mod r cow
I dont really have any strong opinions on him 
I like me some Pesto
@Grego_OW I hope there is a fair try out process, and no personal bias exists in the picking process.

Good one
Seagull Qs into Envy 
I don't hate ajax tbh, support him since Kungarna
His latest play are cringy but i hope he will get his shits 2gether
Hes a nice guy despite the ni๐ ฑ ๐ ฑ er twit
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Lul
: (
that fish is u
i've been bamboozled
Ayyy
because you took the bait
fucc
thats actually nice because i have work to do today lul
SeagLUL
when do they actually start
lol seagull vs envy
its envy fam
He is playing Hanzo to tryhard vs Envy
pls
B A M B O O Z L E D
He wants to scatter Taimou and annoy him
I love that word.
this account is literally called hitscan
yes
Genji is more hitscan than hanzo lol
"
Well he has non hitscan hours
Ya
because its a decayed alt
LMFAO HE DID ACTUALLY Q INTO ENVY
1 Hour in Tracer ๐
HAHAHA
gets one kill
lul
Also ZP like Flame said Rawkus, Matt and Mesr wouldve been frontrunners for his team
how embarrasing

LMAO
LMAO
BYE TAIMOU
TAIMOU DELETED
do they know it's seagull?
nV is streaming rn
lmfao
No lui or effect
lui ;-;
I'll have to watch the vod from their POV later
lul
I don't think that they know it's seagull
they do
They do
They do
Are they 5 stacking or is Kyky playing?
ah, good
Taimou is hosting Seagull I think
lmao
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Now that's a 
taimou got put in his place
chips is just amazing
Chips on Sombra FeelsGoodMan
OL
hanzo LUL
cocco backing into the dragon
Rip my data plan
jfc
lul
aww theyre having fun
I love this :' )
same
How long ago did he stop trying?
worth!
SEAGULL PLS
WTF
AHAHAHA
Scatter arrow is such bullshit man 
LMAO!
what do u saying about group H ?
top 10 anime battles
Group H is pretty contested imo
"He had the high ground"
Israel will be stomped by any of the other 3

ENVY SPAWNCAMPED BY SEAGULL
KAFEE, inferi and deadly are like 3 of the the team
carryhook
YES
@radiant garden hey my friend 
HES QUEUING WITH ENVYUS
@blazing parrot Hey
Seagull confirmed as nV's 9th
LUL
@radiant garden >;3c
8th @toxic yacht
lui and effect
LMAO
wait, 8th
THIS IS SO NICE
Indeed
what is mickie saying
DONT DO THAT
I luv u
Mickie is top 3 male anime characters
There's a couple in China actually
I ain't even mad
Yeah I like that roster
I would pick the same tbh
no train
0/10
azk is a better tracer anyway
yes, but train can actually play off-tanks without forcing surefour on them
No Xqc 
So can azk?
train is better at off-tanks though?
its ok agils carry
which would be more balanced poolwise
where did you get the roster info
Yeah but Agilities takes Hog anyway at least
flames discord
Was Chance a player before coaching IMT?
i asked him
Yes
cool
Aaah didn't know
Gotcha
Was on ahem NG at first
Well azk can hog thats for sure
and he can also zarya but shadder's better so he doesnt
ID is another flex option
yeah, I still think that train is safer because meta shifts
ehh
in the current meta I'd take azk 100%
i dont think the meta will shift from dive
Never know
I still doubt Dive will go
the Tank meta went fairly quickly because it was a very limited meta
Dive has wayy more options
eh, who knows how blizzard will fuck up the balance with I have no idea wtf in the future
They would have to change like 3 heroes to kill dive
we went through all kinds of weird shit in the 1 year the game has been out
You never know that though a certain non dive heros could be buffed to the point that theyre worth running over dive, new hero could screw things up who knows
Point is its a while away
Yeah well azk is still proficient at off tanks so its not like it really matters
picking him secures a spot for them in groups
and then if the meta does change he can just play off tanks
yeah, he's french though

Idk everyone kinda universally agrees on Agilities, Tisumi and Roolf at least
flame actually made that joke when listing his canada picks

lul
after so much time shouldnt it just put them in an uneven game?
give me memes or give me death by boredom
just to get them out of q
i bet after it hits 20
it will just throw them with diamonds
seagull graphics
not leaving
yosh
twitch chat begging him to stay in q
Sure I need something to help me fall asleep anyway
IT POPPED
omg
sojum
LMAO
its your tracer alt
LMFAO WTF
๐ MEME ๐ GAME ๐
Cosi and TiG tryhard pharmercy
LOL
WIPED OUT
unlucky lmao
nv is a fucking meme hahaha
KILLED BY MERCY
LMAO
RIP
lol, this mercy
"we wont talk it about it taimou"

Details on our next steps with Overwatch
Splyce following TSM and coL out of OW
OWL too expensivo
wow
Oh snap
RIP smaller orgs

Yeah, seems like it
Did Seagull 6-stack with NV?
Yee
25-0 POGCHAM P
Well if more teams do this all ill say is theres gonna be a shit ton of available talent
if they have to wait 6 years for OWL to start up wont they just move on to other stuff?
they arent gonna wait on blizz who are completely unreliable about everything
this is why orisa is garbage
with her big ass lollipop lookin head
PINGPINGPINGPING
"thicc head"
all these orgs and players and tournaments committ to getting the scene going for a year
Oh shit
then blizzard just comes and takes a shit on their chest
Hydration is US apparently
He is
Hell probably be there with Seagull, Jake, Talespin etc in that proj dps flex discussion
That's so dissapointting
Frankly it just feels like Orgs are just prepping for OWL.
Either saving money or thinking they'll get out priced
Cause if IRL sport teams invested chances are they can put more money on the table than Esport orgs can
Hydration is from Brazil but has a dual citizenship
OWL might not be here for 6 months what would they do in the mean time?
and apparently voted for US committee
At least NA sport teams
so he's probably a US player
Idk we all kinda expect LG Loyal to fall apart, look at teams like Rise nation idk if theyll have money I wouldnt be surprised if they get dropped soon
Also apparently Liquid might be dropping ow
Not put money into a game they don't make as much in
Liquid damn
Save that money and make money from what they had pre OW
if blizz wanted to do this they needed to have it out way before now
or at least now...
At the end of the day the lack of tournament and stuff as he cited is probably big in a reason for drops as well as performances.
Why would the org support a squad outfit them and make less money than dropping them
And then just buy in later and get players.
Cheaper on them that way
Now if they get out priced it's another whole thing.
I don't mind "small" orgs getting dropped if they are going to get filled by bigger org
Well the thing is I want orgs to work with people buying out like the dolphins
So that Orgs with experience in the scene stick around
And work hand in hand with people with no experience
I dont really mind if Liquid drops ow and then the roster gets picked up right away
Splyce is smaller than tsm or col
Im just scared of the roster scattering
It is, but it's bigger than selfless
Selfless is barely an org lol
Idc if it's not under the name Splyce
inb4 QC comes out and wipes the floor with OW as an esport 
Because we need to keep people with experience in the scene around
Instead of apssing 5 years teaching the scene to an org owned by a sport athlete
Not realli sulli
Or a Basketball team owner
Veterans are mad already
Are they?
@balmy wolf youd have to imagine that if theyre dropped that's a team orgs endemic or otherwise would want to buy
"its overwatch set in quake world"
MY fear when I read the news about the Dolphin and Patriots was mainly that those people might not have as much experience in the scene. And thus might not be knowledgeable and it could cause some issues.
So having orgs who can't buy in work with them would be beneficial
Hopefully @solid spear
If working together works well it'll attract bigger investors
While keeping the orgs working in esport for so long around
But that's Utopic mainly.
Endemic orgs with big wallets*
I mean I can't say obv myself as I don't know what they are doing
Mainly why I only speak of stuff we know for sure.
kek
@digital pond blizz knows what they are doing just look at them blazing a path in hearthstone https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/6a77f5/how_blizzard_is_screwing_over_americas_spring/
I mean I have a tad bit more faith in JEff, but Esport is super sensitive, and I rather be ready for the worse than too hopeful.
The way they presented OWL brings a lot of expectations and goals and other things.
I'm glad big name sport teams wanna invest, I just hope they can care for the scene properly.
Even if officially esport is a sport it doesn't always work the same way as a traditional one.
I mean as long as it doesn't become FIFA.
It's not a total fail.
FIFA a fail
Oh well, that's other thing
They're also getting sued out the fuck ass for it
But standing cause they can buy every lawyer ever
But I would rather this not be the case here
I hate football soccer, but FIFA makes a shitton of money
Like
It's actually ridiculous
I mean FIFA in the sense of it being based about making money and benefits for people with not as much care for the players
The chairboard of FIFA is richer than they ever will need to doe.
So are most top tier players
True, but at the same time esport players rarely get paid the same gaps are pretty big and it's not city based.
Also been established for much longer and has better commercial deals and uses prime time tv slots.
It's a lot things that will be missing at first.
It has the potential to reach a lot of goals (OWL) just I'm worried, and usually prepare for the worse.
Reddit comments about flame roster
I assume this is trolling... otherwise, good thing he lost.
Link?
Also I saw the comment you spoke off Vace
About trying to work with both endemic orgs and sport orgs
But it doesn't really say much or if they'll work together or just work on buying out players mainly.
True
Fingers crossed >_<
Im positive so I'll say they will also help
Because they have experience on esport
But yeah, finger crossed!
Yeah definitely, I deal with dissapointment from company harshly. Since Arena net already dissapoints me daily with GW2
We need optimistic people too
I was positive even after a game had 0 content for 3 years
You got enough hope for all of us haha
There's a bunch of negativity about OWL and OW esport about being such a joke of esport and no one believes on it... That trigger me a lot
Negativity isn't justified now.
Blizzard has done nothing to prove haters wrong yet
You can hope something will do great but recognize things look bad.
If you're surprised about negativity on sub reddit tho it's another thing.
Kinda comes with any games that are esports related
Reddit is trash idk why i still surf it honestly
blizzard has done a lot of mismanagement and money grabbing when it comes to stuff like this
so i want to be positive...
but
A lot of people base themsleves on HS and WoW esport
Since it's the only thing esport related from blizzard
Hots
And both scenes are eh in terms of the overall
sc2
Still HOTS
So even with sc2 people remember more recent "fiascos"
Hots isn't exactly something I consider that big
HotS 
It does well but on the esport scale it's not as high as they wanna put the OWL
Not even close
Smite then
I don't think Smite is even in that scale.
What they're trying to establish is literally massive for esport in general.
Not even the game specifically.
They're aiming for a Dota 2 type of scale imo
And bigger
Cause it has more structure
And is set up massively to affect the world
And involve representation of Cities
Dota2 and Lol were unbeatable
And then countries
Blizzard knew
I didn't say beat
Overdramatic for effect but still RIP CoL OW (@TifaPLS, @JoemeisterOW, @ShakeOW, @harbleuOW, @torkTJO, @NicolasTJO, @RaptorZOW, @Jkw512) https://t.co/UuwwCLDnd5
Sad reacts only
I said on the same scale
Dota scale and money can't be beaten BECAUSE the prize money for Ti is crowdfunded
It's never Valve putting the money and having to sustain it.
But I mean just in scale of esport what OWL does will also affect other esports
IT's quite a massive endeavor and infrastructure to set up.
Any company trying to do what they do would be as, as much risk of not doing it right because it's easy to mess up
But at the end of the day I'm mainly rambling cause I do fear for esport in general in the west always,.
But I mean just in scale of esport what OWL does will also affect other esports
Mhm what I said ya
Indeed, thats why thoorin said to hope owl will succeed
Yeah
That's why the scale of it is so massive
If OWL fucks up, esports in general will suffer for years to come
^
If Overwatch succeed
I belive others will follow
And i strike with my super positivity
Blizzard did a lot of trend changes
the future of esports hinges on the success of OWL, yea or nea?
If OWL does well, traditional sports orgs and investors in general will be more enthusiastic to get into esports
WoW set the stone for mmos, there still no mmo that can compete
@limber pine not quite like that, but it will most certainly have a huge impact
I never like WoW personnaly but it was massive.
OWL won't kill esport if it doesn't work just makes it hard for people trying to make something similar
Since investors/company will have less faith in it
diablo 2- they completely fucked diablo 3
Well Wc3 gave he platform for it but almost sued Ice Frog and valve for it lmao
After it started making money
Was pretty funny
Overwatch most fast selling game, now there's the trend of hero shootinf
And so on
Well if we also go by that though Vace
Ow need to fail
So we can have Dota OW 2
By valve
Lmao
Esport saved
They have tf2 already
Moba shooter with levels and items
gtfo Anem
"Have tf2"
And it's more dead than a deas body
Boy they take care of it as much as nothing
lol Oreo
Lmao that picture
"gabe, tf2 server are down, pls look at it" gabe "what thw fuck is tf2?"
CSGO is pretty much ignores too for Dota2
CSGO is lucky to have a solid community
Pro talk has me dying lol
Otherwise gaben would kill it
Take apart in their poll
Lmao
@solid spear wheres that from
Obviously... LG Loyal
FaZe, Gale, Liquid, Loyal and Fnatic are all strong contenders
well Selfless is trying to sell
Rise, probably not
Well EG pickd the team up a week ago
Doubt they'll drop it within the week
Well 2/3 weeks
But yeh
LG Loyal is gone
EG have money
Everything is possible
They do but EG also likes more money.
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IF the lack of info/trournament stay they could drop the team if they wanted
Having money doesn't mean they have to keep spending it on OW
From a business point of view
^
"Rogue Overwatch Roster announcement" 
They could spend it on a "IRL" twitch streamer and make as much money as the amount of OW tournament lmao
Sulli New England Patriots Soon
Lmao
SoOnโข
lmao
If liquid drops im done
Shadder2k stepping out of professional play to focus on streaming
"Mendokusaii will join as sub meanwhile we actively search for a 6th member"
Liquid streak: 7L











