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this is taking too long
it'll probably start really soon but I can also watch the vods tomorrow
just started again lol
Did it start?
yeah
defran is such a god lmao
DAFRAN FINALLY ON TRACER?
\0.0/
And LGE dive without jake on genji oooh
Voll plz
rip evil
holy shit
my god dafran
He keeps looking back and back
Literally zoning by the hypotheical existence of Dafran
OHHH THE BM
Yeah
Even in soloQ people hate facing him.
He's such a nightmare
Voll's/Train's tracer can't match up to his right now.
wtf dafran
His movement is disgusting
this is so insane
how can someone be thiss good
Dafran's tracking is insane.
Dafran>any other dps on their main
It's actually digusting.
years of csgo i guess
when dafran is too good on tracer they have to let sinatraa play zarya
Funny part is originally Sinatraa told Dafran to get off Tracer
And let him play it
heΒ΄s actually tracer/soldier 1 on overbuff
Did you see his last clip on competitiveOw?
He one clipped 5 people at the start of the round.
omg
Here you go BAAAM
dafran is gonna be more insane on lijang
And solos jake again
dafran on tracer again π¦
the fucking camera dude
dafran is such a good player, you can count on him for everything
I bet shotcalling is so easy with him
That was a smooth kill on Mercy there.
Sinatraa also popping off
Dude Dhak is a monster
holy shit
I fucking love selfless
WTF CAMERAMAN
yeah camera man is so bad
Kresnik baby
Opening the gateway
And Dhak fragging
This is a 4 dps team lmao
4 ults for selfless
Lmao Dafran
loool
Holy fuck
FUCK THIS SHOW SOME KILLS
this camera man is retarded
Okay that was nice
sinatra getting so many kills and he doesnt even show us
git gud
LGE dedicating the entire team to dafran lol
Syuper leaving the team tog et gravitoned
Rip
i really hope C9 and NV step up their games, because every Selfless/Rogue match that isn't one against the other is pretty boring
Rarely it ain't a stomp
The C9/IMT was fun imo.
But I def hope C9 does better as it goes.
LOL
KRENSIK
MY MAN
Missed that one
C9 lost but it was actually a pretty good game and a good first showing.
Yup expected it.
Last time with Liquid it was the same. But I get that he's unhappy.
Cause it felt more like a stomp than anything.
any news on NRG?
I hope to see Selfless polish the dive comp.
Cause they could be insane at it just like their other comps.
1st map was Gibraltar
shift ctrl =
β€
dafran's tracer is insane
@gentle shuttle i recommend using right shift if you're playing the game you intend to pause
@fierce geode thats a good idea
its no biggie tho, just using custom as training mode nothing srs
lol just making sure
was hosting a game and used left shift... accidentally charged before the pause right into enemy team
*as rein
Nrg v who? Rn
Liquid
lool oop @fierce geode
nV won oh
Rip
LUL
LOL
Sinatraa lmfao
What a bunch of memers.
they let themselves get gravitoned to lure in envision
Kophee has got to be tilted.
wth is selfless doing?
Literally had shatter
bully time
lol
this is like watching dafran in solo q
Did you hear what kresnik said in the podcast?
"Hey Dafran why are you at the back up top on their spawn (on dorado third point("
"I'M DOING IT FOR THE POGCHAMPS"
Was out w friends, any news/matches worth to watch?
LMAO
Lmao
that shit is hard to do sometimes man
when its that close you want to stay alive so bad
I guess nrg lost?
ah
And fire fell into the pit
Roster things 
Lui? The 16 year old?
rip Twitch chat's nightbot
I will announce some stuff soon, also will hold an AMA on reddit very soon!
also rip Hulk
Nrg lost 2-0 π¦
who was their 6th
UltimaWep
he scrimmed with them the day before
I wasn't sure if I was allowed to say right after we played so I didn't π
oh ok thanks
Yeah it was already confirmed through the bracket on razer arena
Why is Yolt talking all of the sudden?
Wild Yolt appears
For a long period you've been a "Lol" bot.
lul
My contract expired with @TeamEnVyUs and I have decided to join @LaserKittenz as head coach on a trial basis while exploring my options. πΌ
lul
Harry on Lucio? 
Yup
man
did Lui turn out to be the replacement?
all this time
he's getting older and probably feels like he'd be better suited in a coach position. idk.
i can see it
7
Kyky tho
hes a really smart player but with the mechanical skill of the game increasing, he suffers in that area
Oh yeah shadder got his named changed
Harry on Lucio 
by ironaids
man Envy without Hulk
Sad to see him go because he's been with them so long
But I dont really mind, he hadn't played monkey for months which is what i liked him for

Wait shadder2k changed his name?
yeah
Got it changed by Ironaids
Ohhh ty
Cocco monkey!

Harryhook on lucio π
rip nV
ESPER!
EnVy doing their best NRG impression
rip harry
Harry 
Rip NV
There's no team more deserving
shadder so good
Hulk is like Envy's soul
^
i'm not really sure i can even draw any comparisons between other players on their respective teams
sleepy time
aww no
C9 lul

envy pls

Throwing

Harryhook? More like harryLucio
No monkey GB defense 
harry used to be the lucio though
wait
We know @gentle shuttle
π·
lul
LK?
Lk?
i think he got benched
Laser kittens
Laser Kittenz
Oh
Wtf
LUI afk
That's a bit saddenning. Hulk is who got me into esport :[
Lui's PC prolly bricking it
Good guy shadder

leaving AFK alone
Lui's dead
Shadder has honour.
Goddamn pauses. Even the pros can't finish games without pausing.
Good guy π
i feel like
Tilt?
he got ironaids to turn it into aids font lul
Chips 
LK are trying to build themselves up to be the next Misfits/Rogue
Lmao
My thing with LK is it feels like they aren't keeping people for long enough to form any synergy.
did C9 win 3rd game?
Lui 
timtheplatman for nV 
lol
maybe throwlock
Like how can they be this bad
It is but they will lose
How do you know
NV looks like weaker than rogue
^
because we havent seen this roster play
right yeah
I bet nrg would lose if they queue for comp
Shadder is getting lots more popular
gg
@spring lintel they wouldn't 
lg evil 1:1 yggp
I would just like to point out until their ressurgence, Selfless was also getting curve stomped.
Ohhh that would be awesome
HULK KNEW
TAIMOU THREW
HARRY NO CLUE
LUI WHO ?
imho iddqd has just been away from the pro scene for too long to have the impact that he needs to right now. and mendo is new enough that he doesn't really synergize with the team yet. also numlocked is kinda not the greatest
The whole team isnt that great for some reason
weird
So even less synergy
stream chat got a chuck or two outa me with this pasta
i like the idea
I'LL GIVE IT UP.
rip NRG
it's a better UI
Yup nrg got 2-0
against Splyce?
Any random pick up team can win against them
that's a lil too far
iddqd and harb would still carry
they just can't do much against coordinated pro teams
Harb is the only consistent player
plus dummy is actually a really good ana
Iddqd isnt consistent
most of the time
seagull should just come back 
I don't think it would really fix things.
yeah
LOL THAT HOOK
Lol
hoooooleee sheet
lol that effective hook range
wait wtf
Sniper hook
Dahang has it again?
it's like a damn Dhalsim normal
Dahang is a good player man
HE GOT AN ENTIRE ULT IN LIKE 30S
I love it when he streams
FUCK
I think nrg needs to play together with a consistent roster for a bit if they wanna catch up at all. more swaps isn't going to fix shit
dahang has it again
unless they get a better rein
Yeh agreed jag.
Taimou 
who's ironclad btw, a blizz employee?
who is lui
inb4 zen ult charge nerfed
who is Slade
Lui tried out with Liquid way back before Shadder2k did
Slade is Deathstroke
He played sombra
struggling to remember Lui's old team
But didn't make a good impact.
I just remember him going ham with Reaper
@balmy wolf spoilers
Colorado Clutch @gentle shuttle
@balmy wolf my mans π
NA visor
the fuck was that grav
I'm kinda sad they put harry on lucio really.
LOL
He left contract expired.
Coaching Laser Kittenz now
^
Chips 
I do think it's weird that they moved Harry and picked up ANOTHER hitscan.
Instead of a projectile player to not overlap with taimou.
Which was kinda the issue,
Lui plays Genji
He does?
Yup
That's good to hear then
He does
Is this real? This EnVy comp?
His proj is better than his hitscan too so idk why he is playing it
Do you guys think NRG will take a map ever?
TIMO PHARAH WAAAAT
No baaam
lel rip
this is some korean comp
so who replace mendo on nrg?
Someone called ultimawep
AGAIN LUL
lmfao anti air nuke
taimou only ults when ID does
It's actually the opposite
lol @ ID getting that Pharah twice with the self destruct.
I wish that dummy sleeps anyone on stream
Baaam pls
I have
You are very lucky
π
Dunno what's happening to him
Exactly
Evil 2-1 $?
Did you see liquid's dart in only 1 roundπ
rip
Yeah π
Lol
They will lose 100%
Timo on Cree 
OOOH YEAAAAAH
Dahang is such a monster
LOL
Timo lel
This is why soldier is better
That healing saved soldier
The problem is that ID jumped before being flashed
Fuck mccree needs to be buffed dude
His such a good hero but there's no reason to take him over 76
Yeah I know
Timo 
holy azk
"definitely a pleasure to watch him on that"
wasnt spectating him when he was wiping
lul
I love how they switch to the one killing everyone AFTER he killed everyone
Azk wow
Azk popping off 
That firestrike
One just forgets how good Cocco is
If they booped meser they would have won
holy fuck
Clutch
ππ» MIRACLE WORKERS ππ»
Meser was the real clutch
2 - 2 on last map, 1 - 1 in the series on a bo3
AZK one clipping two people
Solo visor
Lol rapha
WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED
Holy shit this match.
Geee geee
gg
COCCO!!!
FUUUCK
HO
What
I didn't
:c
omg I need to watch this series again
Nrg are just so bad zoro
Like i can pick up a random team that can win on them
daaamn
Baaam finally got to the acceptation stage
Like I can get streamers against them and they would win
the nrg memes are equivelant to that of esca
kindred spirits
Esca was not as overhyped as NRG
i'm not sure this is our Baaam
I can bring fucking wolfsniper chick
he had a lot of hype on his back during worlds

Like seriously their comms are shit
They need to deal with harb and ignore everyone else
They automatically win
:baaamTilt:
Like how can a team with this roster get stomped over and over and over
They were scriming for months
I 100% guarantee that the roster will change
Because they dont have strong dps, the over wall mechanical skill of that team isn't insane
we've all been there, welcome to the club
Can't play dive, can't play tracer or genji
Cant play shit
looooool
Iddqd is a good tracer and he is inconsistent as fuck
Harb is the only consistent player on the whole team
I have seen all of their games till now, mostly it's harb carrys, sometimes iddqd comes in for a round or 2
Mendo was good on certain heroes
And now they have an incomplete roster
I blame who ever organized this crap
i think it's more lack of teamwork than anything...
all the pros are really good skill wise
Might as well apply for carrying services
I bet they can a get smurf on their team
yeah what Ford said
Well if you look at other teams they are not as bad as NRG
i still can't help but feel like, if Grego was the shotcaller they'd do fine
Even with like 2 weeks of scriming together
like watching rogue they must have perfect teamwork perfect calls they are always on the same page it's like having 6 eyes for the same person
watching nrg it's the opposite lol
NRG spent MONTHS scrimming if synergy isnt there when will it come?
Shotcall is always the key part.
I mean tons of teams have been together for a while.
Yeah I suspect ajax but we dont know for certain
None of them are Rogue.
I dont want them to be rogue
I mean in term of shotcalling
I just dont want them to be raped every time
Not in term of gameplay.
It's just embarrassing tbh
i'm worried about Baaam
Harb is a god Zarya...
Rogue is on another level in terms of mechanical skill when compared to NRG. Having no teamwork and shit hero pools makes it worse
Yeah sure but he is better on hog π¦
These guys get paid?
ENVY COMBO 
It's their signature combo at this point
LMAO

NRG REJECTED BACK TO SPAWN
Thou shall not past!
so lucky
Luck
NRG isn't a team. Quit letting them play in tournaments.
^
They should stop allowing nrg to be in touneys
Now iddqd is going off for 10 seconds
He is goin back to sleep now
If you qualify for a tournament with a lineup, you should have to use that lineup for the tournament. All this temp member bullshit is ridiculous and not interesting to watch.
But that's just me.
Thats me too
Numlocked 
@ashen umbra they use tournaments to trial new members
Ajax probably called that shit
perfect place for that right
friendly reminder for @spring lintel NRG unfortunately started off rather weak with their comeback while Rogue keeps winning since February OMM and getting into the APEX
Backcap 
Then they get team wiped with a freaking dva ult
If they can decrease the size of the overlay at the bottom
Fucks the whole team with these dumb charges
I have an NRG hoodie that I have to wear every now and then because my fiance bought it for me.
Dafuq Baaam, he killed two...
It's starting to get embarrassing.
Timo Hanjo 
The Law > NRG stay woke
Look at them getting team wiped from the first push
Hulk

does nrg have a coach?
Yes
is he a known person
Don't know who tho
Tiamou will one shot so many players
Most likely not an ex-player
10/10 defense
HANZO
Would pay money to let them join my team
WTF
Timo 
wow
So HarryHook is back on Lucio while Lui is flex?
this is embarassing
Harryhook on lucio killed dummy
10/10
They are gonna get team wiped in the next push
taimou another dragon
Like they literally cant hold against a single push
Lol what is this
humiliation
This looks like a pro masters team
Misses Dragon by a few meters
still get grav kills with scattur anyway
Timo oh Timo
Like I would literally fire every single person related in making this team
NRG are outclassed
why does he keep earthshattering when Cocco has his shield up
Streamer team. ;-;
@pine star how did Rogue do
Was there a worse team than thisv
@spring lintel would nrg beat Get Paid?
@clever wagon Rise almost beat them
Stomped everyone else
That's interesting
Rise played their hearts out
LMAO
One of the best matches of the day
Like guys I am serious, is there a worse actual team than nrg?
Get Paid took a map off selfless
Like an org team
in NA? idk
maybe somewhere in asia? they have lots and lots of teams
LGE v Selfless?
Half of NRG's roster needs to be fired
what half
Dummy ajax and numlocked
who is their shot caller? ajax?
Yes
Yup
This will never work out
What if at one point it was Selfless v NRG and Dafran happened to be on Tracer and he did the 1 clip per head play against them
I would clip it and make it into a meme
HARB PLAYS TRACER?
IDDQD is not doing jack shit, wtf
He's been playing Hog Zarya Tracer for ages
chips goes afk?
Yup
twitch chat speaks for itself rn
its like iddqd isn't even tehre

"My teammate wants to kill 5 enemy team players while they are together? With blade? Better push them away"
Harb will hate his life rn
Because of tiamou mccree
LMAO
Okay. NRG won a single round. That's way more than I expected.
I can stop flaming now and hope they can make this at least worth watching.
Trash
poor nummy
@solid spear In reality Selly will never adopt you
Thats NRG's ambition, winning a single round.
LOL
How did LGE do @pine star
Gank pls
Shit ult
is Lui the same Lui/Yungsun?
@clever wagon didn't see that, fell asleep 
Ripperonis
F E E D I N G
i'd love to hear their comms
^
twist- total silence all game
Dummy LUL
lmfao
They need to start doing teamwork because they are shit individually
Dummy, Grego has a video on disengaging from team fights if you need it
LOL
LOL
C9
NRG hasnt taken a single map today

At least we are gonna see NV shit on NRG more
this might be their first which would be wew
Rivalcade : FORGET THE OBJECTIVE
HAHAHAHAH
IDDQD winning those 1v1s at least. Not sure why NV couldn't kill that Harb Tracer though.
Mickie 
There goes, the troll Orisa Halt
these casters
Meanwhile I'm still hooking people to the hole with Hog like it's 2016 just last night
this looks like solo q
Zoning supercharger 
WTF!
WHAT THE FUCK
10/10 satter
is going on with this fucking team
I told u guys they will get fired
im actually speechless
Theres literally no way for this roster to continue
where was the shotcalling
No one knows
or Ajax shot caleld that
Mickie 
holy shit
Ajax could have told him to do it
that play legit makes me think numlocked is trying to get himself kicked from the team on some "yea...its been real but fck this i'm done" shit
I really wanna see a flanking widow
Lol they cant even push properly
What is this
WHY IS IDDQD BY HIMSELF
LMAO
NRfeed
What is this garbo, random comp comms are better than this.
WTF
"what is this" - casters
wow
Dummy actually sucks on Zen
He sucks at everything dude
Just because he is good on stream
Doesnt mean he is good in pro lvl
their brains imploded
OMG
WTF IS THIS
they dont even need their fucking ults
Lol
ugh

Since day 1 ajax ana and numlocked need to be sacked
this match
When the shotcalling fails and everyone decides to shotcall by themselves
cocco so bm
I feel like they are shotcalling is this "hey guys lets push"
^ thats it for the rest of the push
NUMLOCKED 
numlocked has never really been good tbh
guys dont trip
Look focus on numlocked
numlocked probably was thinking at a higher level of play
idk why he didn't get the boot when they redid the entire roster
numlocked aka free ult battery
Look he will charge again
Again
LOL dva was like "fuck this I am out"
Sigh Nothing but one thing "shit team"
LMAO
LMFAO 
THROW ULT
I don't think dummy is really that bad tho. he's mechanically a really strong player. he just hasn't played an actual pro match in like, 5 months
I really feel bad for harb tbh
He is the only one that seems to he actually playing
harb is used to carrying
NRG will never ever be better than 3rd tier

I'm just gonna go ahead and copy Oreo 
Seagull knew
Now they are just random pick ups yoloing on tourney
Done
Seagull probably knew and he saved himself
Because of his rep
This is embarrassing as fuck
Seagull was the problem π¬
Nrg got raped by everyone
Seagull be like 
He was actually smart
He preserved his reputation
Unlike iddqd where I think he is bad now
nrg doesn't beat anyone. i like them π
Harb's carrying will get his reputation up
i think its a bit fcked up of Seagull to essenstially ditch his team though
Anywhere to see all the results from today?
idk
@solid spear https://www.over.gg/
Ty bbs
scroll down
Who trickles in pro matches?
NRG
Like even shit amateur teams dont do this
meta s trats
Even in fucking solo queue they rarely do this on high tier
Anyways I am done, I will be against NRG until they sack half of the roster
really wanted to see selfless 2-0 NRG
sinatra and dafran teabagging will be like beating a dead horse
^
lol
lmfao
i want a 2-0 against nV
man
goals
Tbh I think NRG can be spawn camped
ni ni's π· /





