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So he should play with them until they V c9?
Acting like that will even happen lul
If it does he will either just play or they will get Seagull to sub in
Its not like teams havent had multiple players on their roster in a tournament before
No, he isnt
And atm we don't know who is subbing in
Even though it should be seagull because he is a sub
but not even Ajax knew
Mendo is still on C9
Just inactive
Still under contract
They just allowed him to play on other teams to not lose his touch
He is a sub though
As in will play when they do not have a 6th player
But going by Ajax, it seems they're looking for another Flex to trial
Methinks they might get Nesh
From my understanding Mendo said on stream he's getting a tooth p[ulled out or something
Oh I thought that already happened
He was getting his wisdom teeth out
I heard about that weeks ago though
Oh someone said it was this week-end, but the info could be wrong.
anything interesting happen in the past 5 hours or so
got caught in the Hollow Knight vortex
arcade
Lol
If you guys haven't checked out grego is cosplaying Tracer as he streams.
Who hosted grego
No idea
He was playing with Gale so I assume he did.
Didn't he have like 8k viewers a while ago
@balmy wolf why is NRG looking for a flex and not a 2nd dps?
They need a phara/genji player
nowadays you want one of your dps to be able to flex
most teams want 2 flex honestly
Yeah flexing on off tanks is a plus
But genji and phara are crucial as fuck
Like sometimes cant handle the pharamercy
What's considered a flex?
His genji is phenomenal
Flex just means they can play other heroes and swap around and aren't just purely specialized.
Like SoOn is specialized in Tracer so he's straight dps.
aKm is straight Hitscans
They need a flex like nico
And I dont think there's anyone like nico
I think someone said earlier Iddq said he was turning stream off to g scrim and seagull turned his right after.
Ah
So maybe they're still looking for someone.
Seagull dropped later and it was Grego/Gale/Kephrii
Then it went back to Grego/Gale
Sypeh is just like NiCO
Except plays a better Zarya and a worse Genji
I'm actually surprised RNG didn't take him.
Like just picture a bar graph or something
The only real flex players are Surefour, Tviq and Flow3r tbh
NiCO's genji bar is really high whereas his zarya one is low
for Sypeh both bars are in the middle
Nesh is also the same
Just replaced Genji with Pharah
If I were NRG
I'd pick up Sypeh and get him to learn Pharah
Instead of picking up Nesh and getting Nesh to learn Genji
Because Genji is harder than Pharah
Yeah I think that would definitely be a good idea for them.
I feel like nesh will probably go to another EU team.
Might even go to fnatic.
Well actually no.
If Tales goes there he might not.
Overlapping heroes.
Whats up with everything thinking Tale is going to Fnatic
His twitter
Sounds like fun rosters ๐
If they keep kryw on for the Rumble Group Stage
They might be a force to be reckoned with
dopeeee
man 3 bodyblock clips lol
I dont really think him posting Coolmatt's clips means anything
Especially since they're trialing Realzx and a guy called Anomander in all 3 clips
So unless Tale's alt is called Anomander than its best to just ignore it imo
seems kinda odd that nrg would pick up someone so far away he cant even play with the team unless they relocate him
is there really such a lack of talent in NA?
Does Silkthread play Pharah and Genji?
I've never seen him play Pharah
Just Genji and Hitscan
But he could
Not really a lack of talent, just that all the talent is taken @supple nymph
I mean it was the same for Shadder2k, iddq,numlocked and some others.
ic
They played from overseas for a bit and got relocated later.
Not sure about shadder.
Shadder's still in Romania
There's a few good NA players that are free agents
Tale is trialing, or at least thats been the rumour for months
Enigma is focused on over.gg
No idea what happened to Debett and Reaver
And thats it
The rest are on teams
I guess minstrel but i dont think he's even playing ow anymore
Yeah bird's just a streamer
Pookz
I can't tell if that's sarcasm
It is not @forest raven
@balmy wolf is anyone on your team streaming the tournament
You're not allowed to
somewhere i heard the rule from blizzard is 5 min delay
you cant stream it, its in the tournament rules
o
one of you should do that
not bothered 
it'll be like getting footage of bigfoot having a vod with exxu in it
How are they silly
cause people wanna see it even if it is just the qualifiers
They might end up streaming it considering its not 64 teams
'we cant get casters' is an over-used excuse
does anyone even listen to the casting when they watch tournaments
i just wanna see the play
A lot of people do
Most people I'd say
Yeah probably the majority
ok fine but i would rather see the match uncasted than not at all
Well I can understand not wanting to stream a group of 64
But theres only 9 teams signed up atm
with 5 incompletes
so I could see them streaming the qualifiers
Especially with it being postponed
I do listen to the cast
i x-posted the tournament link on competitiveoverwatch but it actually got downvoted ๐ฆ
not sure why
That's Rumble 1st match isn't it https://puu.sh/vsa4A/04c6c95ebe.png
funny dafran one of the top players in overwatch NA esports can stream and barely gets 1000 viewers
seagull comes on and within 10 mins has 15k
Well Seagull is just a good streamer
Just because you're a good player doesn't mean you're a good streamer
social skills matter??
The schedule for Rumble is pinned btw @clever wagon
I was mentioning it so you know what matches are being streamed
lol Harry got cucked
"Sometimes you win, sometimes you get boosted Mercy one-tricks on your team"
lul
Does Selly have a rank 7 smurf?
Some people in chat say some MsPeregrine (who is rank 7) is Selly, but I'm not sure if it's true
It's me
It's-a-me
I doubt he could get two accounts into the top 10 so quickly
@pine star "you get boosted Mercy otps" or "you boosted Mercy otps"
Only thing I can say is
That's a weird sentence if I've ever seen one as a non-English native
This MsPeregrine is a beast on soldier
Yeah only 2 players have been able to get multiple top 10 accounts this season and they've both played hundreds and hundreds of games
So it'd be unlikely
I only know one person this season with 2 accs in the top 10 NA
Who's the 2nd
Dafran and spree
Logix has 2 accs in the top 20 EU
Logix is from Riders, right?
Yeah
Correct
Dafran has an acc at #2 and one at #9 NA
Spree had like 5 and 9 a couple days ago
And spree has two in the top 20
But one dropped
What rank is Selly's main?
Selly also has two in the top 10
4
Selly and Ylles
4 and 5 I think
So 3 players actually
tfw top 10 is like 3 or 4 people lul
They're at 17 and 14 rn i think
Eerps and Spree
Oh wow just realised that one of the guys from Blank is in the Top 100
Who?
Trill
lul
Onigod so good 
Schedule in pins
They have an app?
Was there any western event with production quality comparable to Apex (aside from the world cup)?
I'm still amazed how little things like the singing contest, and the little video that plays after that with the players facing each other make so much difference
OW Open and ESL were amazing imo
the production?
That's just typical Korean/Japanese reality show thingy tbh @wintry matrix
Not saying they're bad
Prevalent esp around these East Asia idol culture
Laser Kittens got another new player

I can't Polo
This damn esport is too fast for me
:c
Overwatch HND Invitational group stage is about to start! Donโt miss the action: https://t.co/d06dJshQXk
U guys prolly already watching tho
Time to see my man's skipjack do work
English stream for HND
Streaming Group A and C
Laser Kittenz vs Gamers Origin has started already
Sypeh gets Genji over Kyb
Surprising
The way these casters pronounce Sypeh @gentle shuttle

@balmy wolf i'm listening to music so my strims muted ๐ท
What are they saying
Syv
wat
lul
How do you get syv out of sypeh

Isn't it Sai-Pe?

be easy guys
Sypeh was amazing at slicing air

Watching the russian stream of Owly Six vs LDLC
Hqrdest really liking that McCree
Jesus the spectating on the russian stream is terrible
only seen it on Genji
@balmy wolf didnt u scrim against poko yesterday?
different poko
oh
he was diamond
nanoblade after soldier gets 3 picks
Ufffff
Poko = Polo

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u fraggin out playah

that pulse bomb holy shit
i thought he whiffed lol
new roster again?
Wing and Nesh dropped
Skipjack on Loan from Rogue
Picked up Sypeh
@delbuster @LiveTheBattle We have people who will be recording the matches that are being played off stream to be used later as YouTube and Twitch material!


Awesome
I'm gonna have to catch the vods of C9 
Their matches start at 7am on Sunday for me
just wake up early
Do it!
anyone know nrg's 6th member?
Nope
oops thx
overtalk 

@forest raven https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4d-7h7VMAEuYrF.jpg:large
oh yeah!
reeepost
aww yiss
ultimawep
bestwep
I'll be playing with @Tempo_Storm tonight in @LiveTheBattle OW Rumble! First tournament in ages, thrilled to play again. ๐๐ค

Pog champing intensifies
Oh snap!
Today's gonna be a good day
we can expect lots of shuffle since no tournament tho
FaZe imo will so something
impossible that they keep playing like that
and super happy about East Wind
they deserve an org
wow EG
Tis all a huge clusterfuck
Finally another major org coming in
FeelsGoodMan
Unstoppable memers https://twitter.com/Kayuun_OW/status/794780138344828928
Blizz con afterparty @Mendokusaii @C9Surefour @forsenlol @pokelawls https://t.co/XyCoum7XKa
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waitin for SK :c
Probably not before some League stuff comes out
And Team Solul Mid
Never said so
few major tournaments
They could have picked up all of Kungarna but they didn't want ex-cheaters on their team
So they only got half
then booted ajax
because of a tweet he made months ago and deleted soon after he posted it
Those two signed better delete their porn history if they don't want to get booted too ๐
They could have had coL too
But they signed them then realised the TJOs are ex-cheaters
and let them go a week later
They are too strict for their own good, me thinks
Yep
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Rest in peace NRG
Was a shit run
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I cant imagine bestwp carrying like mendo
who
The new 6th for nrg?
Well, Ultimawep is fucking amazing
Ultimawep is a very good player and is in NA so
and doesn't play at 100+ ping
like, if you need a good example, just check out the eichenwalde game
of c9 vs method
from ow open day 1
I still remember back at the ow open
when you, zoro and maybe polo didn't want me to shower
or eat
lul
worth

Yeah : (
they seemed so happy 24/7
even while losing
they were still laughing
and having fun

tfw he could have been on team brazil but was 17
I hope that he gets to play this year
Yeah
oh alrghty

back when arhan was still good
lul
yee, romania's average top 100 SR is too low 
shadder should grind ranked
and singlehandedly increase the SR, lol
I'd be surprised if there was someone better than him lol
well Im not in Romania so no
kek
Ireland is now 50 

austria is 30 or 31, we're barely gonna make it, luckily
feelsbad for ireland tho :/
Its not like we have good players
We've only increased our average by 63 sr
since like a month ago

tfw kruise was active here during the WC
I wonder what the #1 SR in ireland is if our Top 100 average is 3573
low gm probably


we climbed 1 rank!
hek, romania is #34
if they'd at least be further away
but fucking 34
man
:/
Yeah we were just talking about how shadder would have to get to 5k to bring them up
yee, I know, but I was under the impression that they were a bit further away
that must sting
Cant wait to see the top 10 be the only teams at blizzcon 
there are a lot of country that deserve to go compared to others
they'd have to climb 82 SR in 2 days
italy is trash but we are 20th
We're not even in the top 50 lul
where are you from?
More like Colulmbia amirite
Switzerland is 32 ! The dreeam
lmao
cries in a corner
carry Denmark?
(Gonna get rekt anyway)
but Exxu
is exxu 18?
I was about to ask him rn
he still goes to school iirc
dunno how easy it would be for him to fly to blizzcon or whatever
but yes, exxu is really fucking good too
vods or didnt happen
vods or you didnt happen
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luckly au is 32, want to see muselk ๐
he'd also instantly accuse Dafrag of cheating, probably
carry all
Unless the committee are retarded, they wont put someone who doesnt speak on the team
instead of rogue
wat7 is likely gonna be on austria again
dude, muselk have skill
I hope that Veine gets on team germany this time
stylosa once told me rank doesnt matter!
thats true Im
and Im a god
I literally only remember one moment
who's good in austria?
Wat7
he flashbanged a tracer
thats it
and missed the headshot
and twitch chat went insane
he got the followup kill a few seconds later anyway
but c'mon

you're gm
but yeah AUS should just be Blank and maybe Custa
If they're gonna get Custa they should just make the whole team top 100 aus players
Because having 5 from blank and then custa
is silly
ruins the team synergy
yee
I'm really not a fan of getting whole teams though
I kinda want there to be a rule against that
maybe half a team
at most
well I just said maybe Custa cuz hes the only other person Id seriously consider
like with LH last year
when you have Blank
boring reee
oh like China did the whole team thing last year
because you know that sweden, france and south korea would 100% make it to the semis
yes, but china sucked, so no one cared
but who knows how good misfits will be by then
Korea is full of monster teams
and rogue is really fucking good
rogue is about to get dethroned
like, it wouldn't even be funny lol
By who
Well I dont think Sweden at least will do the full team thing anyway
half of NiP was fine
with linkzr, tseini and taimou

NRG could make it if they were in Rogue's group
at most
they won't be getting past nV and Liquid
They did go 2-1 with IMT the second day
So they might have had a chance to beat them to 2nd.
if they were in rogue's group they'd get gangbanged by rogue
and then maybe beat the others
CoL isn't exactly THAT stable
Because they're trialing 1 player?
I wish they had streamed the NRG vs IMT game
No just in gengeral they feel a bit iffy to me.
it was really close apparently
Their results can go one way or the over fairly easily.
would have helped dial down the hate for NRG
instead we got to see rogue open another team's ass
They have games they play well and games they wanna play pharah no matter what and just die.
He isn't playing anyway
Or Orisa
at least he could run hanjo
I'm untaggable.
broken
Not sure why v0v
just go back to anem hiraeth kek
Im not at fault Im still a god phew
at least that worked
that broke too for a bit lol
lmfao
unluck
hiya Toy!
sup friend
Toy I see you in tons of stream and I get sad when you die.
you getting new tryouts yet?
And I laugh when you one clip people on tracer.
nice
Oh no more ToS?
rip tos
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really pleaure? haha yeah i guess i play against a lot of streamers
yeah i got snaked
it happens
Oh man sorry to hear that :/
xQc joined your team?
hahahhaa
alot of people thought I was the best player on that team so i can find a new team easily i just cant get depressed about it
:/
youll be fine
I hope that you find one fast then
Yeah it's just sucky and we feel ya. We just know you'll find a team.
never got to see you play
sup all
yeah dont worry ill be on a new team really soon and you'll see me more in tournaments and such
tons of games today
yep
should be exciting
I'm excited to see Selly and Xepher play.
gods
dont miss c9, they've been performing really well and if nothing changes today they will be nuts
Everyone talks about them being so good. And Xepher looked really good.
At least on the streams I saw him.
Selly is actually so dumb
dont miss envy either
hes crazy
So I heard
so Ultimawep is playing for NRG today
mickie has been spamming genji and ranked and usually when that happens its for a reason 0-0
not sure what to expect
Yeah I wanna see nV because we haven't seen them in a while. Harry said they would do some role swaps.
its confirmed
Hoping his Genji is much better than last time he streams.
it confirmed
im ringing for him on rockets in scrims today
oh I see
I've been seeing him spam genji on stream, although I wasn't too impressed. He probably wasn't being super serious
But frankly I'm actually hyped to see a lot of teams this tournament. I'm a bit dissapointed Splyce doesn't get at least one streamed game.
Wanted to see my boy Dogman play.
I'd like to see his genji in a tournament setting
mickie or ultima sojum?
mickie
both lul
ah yeah
when i played with mickie it was off stream and he was doing really well
ahhh, okay
ultima is really nuts with pharah and genji and that will help nrgs flexibility
Joshy and Jorosar casting groups A and B
such a bad time for me
what matchup are you guys looking forward to watch today?
all of them
c9 vs imt

EnVy vs Liquid for me, i think
but pretty much all of them should be interesting to watch i guess
n/Liquid. C9/IMT. GFE v Tempo.
Those are my 3 games
Last one because I feel like they're closer in skill.
And it should be a close game.
GFE tempo is offstream, isn't it?
the only game GFE is getting on stream is vs C9
they have the bracket up right on stream
but yea, not on stream
what's a Jake
What's the map order for the tournament?
No idea what he does with his hair
@digital pond broadcast started, if you're interested
Be there in a sec.
Ya'll, do you think 12 year olds are mature?
Shit, I pressed on the wrong chat once again.
I'm kinda happy Ishiny gets to play not Rein.
Ill admit these arent the matches Im looking forward to most
I don't mind watching them.
It's just like watching a normal comp stomp
I guess.
For casual viewers i can see why its bad
I still enjoy seeing their target focus and their target calling coordination.
It's not bad
Not many teams do it as well.
That's more on the teams they face though.
Like TOO GOOD
I am baffled of how perfect they do it
Practice.
Obviously most people don't speak french but if you watch their stream they're all pretty much perfectionnist.
Things have to be down to a T and they keep working on it until it is.
What sucks more is that theres not team like them
IT's pretty crazy.
Like it's not just practice
you a frenchie?
The chemistry is INSANE
this is their meta
Yup
works like a charm for them
They like the meta and they play a lot.
Other teams can play the meta too
I believe they could be very strong in any meta tho
Yeah but I think people approach it differently. And not all teams play dive.
Iono
They will need to practice a lot
Well they do practice a lot.
nah, man
I mean in other metas
they have a deep hero pool
If dive gets nerfed they are beyond fucked
The meta is favorable to them and they practice sometimes more than other teams.
I don't think it would be an issue if the meta is not favorable practice wise.
But they'll definitely have to adapt.
Thing is Tracer is always meta
If dive get nerfed, other teams have the edge against rogue
So I doubt SoOn will have to change
Tracer cant do shit alone
lol @ you thinking rogue is fucked if dive isnt meta
In pro matches that is
Well
yep
Tracer works in any meta really
agree
fucked is an overstatement
Selfless doesn't play dive and tracer works
they might not be as dominant
Tracer gets easily picked alone
You can play her in pretty much any comp.
either way Rogue is really good
Tracer has always been a good pick
You can but better picks are there
Sinatraa plays her diving alone lmao
Tracer has literally never not been good
Dafran doesn't dive with him
Soldier too, is an overall great pick
even in tank meta Tracer got play
She will always be good because of her kit
Yeah but sinatraa is one trick
So is SoOn
wut
Hhe made his name in France stream one trick tracer
SoOn isnt a one trick
He is
neither are
He was when he started
sinatraa has a decent zarya and hog
no
He isnt lol
You are just an idiot
He is not that good with other heroes
Not you pleure
have you watched Soon before this year?
Nope
Baaam you clearly just havent followed the scene
thats why
He is very very good on all the other hitscans
you think he is a one trick
So is iddqd
Before the three way change
But did you see his nrg play?
Idd has nothing to do with this
But he isn't iddq
Its just memes
What I mean is that skill decay
iddqd tracer one trick
what can nico play at his genji level?
Who said iddqd is a one trick?
but still
Nico plays a lot of soldier, some sombra and some zarya.
Not sure at what level though.
awesome
I mean iddqd was good with hitscans but now he isnt that good anymore
Skill is always changing
You can judge someone from a year ago
When he has been playing 1 hero for months
He streams other heroes
Yeah streaming is different
but saying hes a one trick
He's played soldier and McCree on stream
I doubt they only scrim those heroes.
iddqd last played cree at the ow open and fucking dominated, he hasn't been on a practiced team since then
They aren't retarded.
They can play other comps
like, iddqd played cree for 5 seconds on NRG
They just haven't needed to change it up
and did well for those 5 seconds
They said themselves they don't need to change their comp because it works.
Because no team has posed enough of a problem apparently
And when they need to swap they swap.
didnt iddqd play mostly tracer in the tournament?
They swapped against Selfless on King's Row
2 AMM ago they almost lost when they didnt play dive
i dont think it's his best hero
They don't play dive when they swap mid game
Like I dont think its unfair to say if they meta shifted away from dive they could be a little worse but saying theyll just crumble and die cuz theyre a team of one tricks is a crazy overstatement
They swapped against Selfless on last point King's Row to stop them
They switched NiCO to Zarya for 30s, Rogue have never not run Dive or half dive
They also thew at the beginning to meme
Cause they were up 1 game
And just meme'ed with Widow
I've heard they've scrimmed other comps but they only bring it out if they cant win with dive
Pretty much
but they've been playing with a hand tied behind their backs
If it stops working they'll swap.
gonna swap when they're really forced to
My personal opinion is if dive get nerfed hard they wont be dominating and I can easily see selfless destroying them
They sometimes put nico on dva
akm can play amazing mcree
and nico on reaper
Knoxx himself said Selfless's Comp is actually a nightmare for them.
And probably the best to counter them right now.
selfless comp counters their comp
but they're so goddamn good that they can still beat them
although it's just barely
Yeah.
Korean teams will exactly do that
selfless is getting closer every time
Oh shit I'm late
you just have a hardon for rogue losing
Is it over?
Definile always hyped to see Rogue v selfless
I was thinking that rogue would figure them out, but it's kinda the opposite
First map is over Sulli
wut
Hollywood and dorado next
lmao
I am just being logical you guys havent seen them dominating o anything other than dive
Why do you think that?
"Because it always work"
they haven't been dominating on anything else because they've been dominating on this
fucking kresnik
said that they've been scrimming with other comps
We don't think they'll get wiped post Dive nerf because they explicitly said themselves they are practicing other comps and can play them.
iirc it was kresnik, right?
Trying to dive Rogue 
They aren't sitting on their hands just playing drive.
They might not fully dominate as hard.
Everyone practice all comps
But they won't just kneel over and die.
But are they good at it
None of us have seen scrim results.
why would they run other comps?










