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Yes
Also, grill*
#Rogue4APEX
I hope they get roasted so hard
#TheresNoTeamMoreDeserving
I'm just enjoying seeing @spring lintel getting triggered to be honest
Lol
lol
For that alone it's worth seeing Rogue winning
You should
I just want them to lose to someone because I don't want a team just stomping everyone like EnVy in their prime
I played hanzno
Stomps are not fun

And for the memes ofc
Rogue just stomps and memes
Believe in
π°π·
Someone needs to put an end to it
4 days and we will see if rogue is the best team or not
I'm actually a fan them
If they lose to Rogue, that's not Rogue's fault
I want a Rogue jersey with SoOn in the back
I think they will get destroyed in rumble ebh
Everyone knows their play style
Strictly dive
Nah, unless nV has seriously trained they're probably gonna fall to Rogue's dive
Same
C9 and NV will destroy them
That's what Finland said about Shadowburn in the World Cup
And this is C9's first pro games with the new roster with Koreans who don't speak fluent English
Well not destroy
"We know exactly how he plays"
Unless NV has something new to bring to the table that's better than their APEX performance I doubt Rogue would lose
On paper I can easily counter rogue
Everybody knows how Rogue plays but Rogue overpowers them mechanically still
Rogue's team cohesion is bonkers
The Dorado blitz
tbf, EnVy can potentially overpower them mechanically
Not even Selfless can deal with it reliably
If they can kill winston first it should be easy
Let's not forget that HarryHook > Dafran
Winston gets fucking destroyed by roadhog
And also Taimou
Selfless nearly beats Rogue because Emongg feeds on KnoxXx so hard
And Dafran goes toe to toe and outclasses aKm consistently
That's the problem, so far NV doesn't have permanent Hog player
Lol
Taimou ????
After that zarya can feast on genji
Hmm
nV has Taimou for Hog
Taimou is literally one of the best Hogs in the whole game
They have Cocco for Zarya 
Nah Mickie should be their Zarya
That was a joke Gank
Well, whatever. NV has been quiet anyway
Hence the 
But I am not talking about NV specifically
When's Rumble
EnVy can very well run Selfless comp with Mickie on Zarya and try to overpower them mechanically
Mickie's Zarya was lackluster in APEX
I am just talking about a way to counter their dive
With an even better Hog and S76
What Draw said
Also I'd say Dafran = Carryhook
You could see that was a spur-of-the-moment pick
Well, Sinatraa is not a Zarya superstar tbh
Heresy
Also Dafran's insane on more heroes than Harry
No need to run other heroes against Rogue
I hope Rogue carries on just so I can see Winz on fire on Twitter
They just need to be capable of executing it
I hope rogue falls down to a pit
And @spring lintel carries on being triggered
I am so bored dude
I just want good games
I want good games
I don't mind that Selfless has lost all the bo5's that they've had against Rogue because they've all been really close
I just think rogue will be destroyed because they only dive and everyone know it
LH is a dive main team yet they end up winning
They don't only play dive lol
LH is WAY more flexible than Rogue tho
In fact they usually don't
So there's another counter example, aside from Rogue winning onlines twice with Dive only
I said "main", not Dive only
I have only seen them stomp on dive
LH aren't even comparable composition wise
They dont play anyhing other than dive
^rogue
Can Soon play anything other than tracer?
No
Honestly Rogue's adaptability relies on KnoxXx's ability to play Rein
I mean he CAN
Am I the only one that thinks that unkoe is fucking insane
No
Legit he carries himself
lol no
You're not
He's the best Zen in the world

Ryujehong calls him a better Ana than him
If I could choose between being god and being really good, I'd just to be god
Like you dont even need to baby sit him
I have never heard of unkoe
Until like 3 amms ago
uNKOE's been on the Rogue roster since before they won APAC last year
I don't think so
Did you miss people here saying he's a fucking insane Ana
Yeah
Nah fam everyone sucks Unkoe
I have seen ryuu montages
You're late
But unkoe neevr
I mean pretty sure he's got people more than willing to make montages in his Twitch alone
I don't see why not
But who knows, he probably just choose not to
Ryu has a far larger fanbase than uNKOE
Does he even have choice?
Like I can take his clips and make a montage
Or is it not allowed or something?
Btw does winz play anything other than lucio?
Winz is a Zarya main iirc
He used to be an off tank
He actually hates playing Lucio
Yep
Yeah Winz is an off tank player
He was their off tank when Tviq and Re1nforce was on the roster
I love how anyone can play lucio
He's a very good McCree imo
Did I really need to clarify?
Not that he's relevant
We already told you he's a fantastic hitscan and Hog
What
SoOn is synonym of Tracer
No one told me
You seem to keep thinking that these pros are only good at their main heroes that they show on tourneys
He also plays Genji, doesn't he?
And they can't play anything else
LOL i read fantastic as fanatic
Soon?
Yeah
A very strange strictly one-dimensional view on pro players
It's what I see
Cant say I remember him ever playing it
I have been following esport for 3 months and I have never seen him play anything other than tracer
He has never played it professionally that I know of
But if you watch his stream, he's a Sombra main
He's really good too
didn't chip battle taimou in comp on widow
π π¦
You mean stomped
they ignored everything and just 1v1'ed each other on widow
damn millenials with ya dabbing

i don't remember but i think chip won for the most part
He did
Actually Sulli I'm remembering and I'm pretty sure he played Reaper, McCree Tracer
Chips is amazing tbh
Who?
Oh
Cant west go to apex to compete?
Have to be invited
If they're invited
I'm almost sure I've seen him play good Genji somewhere
Or do they need an invite
Maybe it was on his stream
LAN experience is quite a must
There's no team more deserving
did they enter rivalcade or whatever its called again
The rumble
NRG?
The Cult
Not yet sadly
oki
Not even nrg
Why did they not register yet π
We haven't even made our
team yet guys
I will do it tmw
I bet we will have enough players

Let's make a 1 SR #esports-discussion team
Lets try to cheese our way to the qualifiers
Let's go

Hanzo main here
I'll be the dps/off-tank flex that never gets any kills
Torb main here
Oh right, the 300 ms ping would make a great addition
Yeah me too
My tactic is playing Hanzo on 150 ping, landing random headshots
@pine star random headshots? We have no need for that here
Cant wait to beat NRG in qualifiers
tfw I have like 30 minutes on Hanzo
What we need is total determination without the performance to back it up
Guys whats the opposite of rogue?
Not rogue
Nice
Eugor
LUL
Normies
The law
That's actually a really good name lmfao
Anyways thats our name
The Law Esports 
We will
Their shot calls are kinda bad
Well lose to everyone else doe
Not gonna lie my hanzo 300+ ping is actually decent
Can I get a pro flair plz
We are gonna put rogue back into their place
Under the law
@solid spear Just do it
But Teo
I know you want it 

lul
Maybe it's time to change my flair on r/cow to diamond
OW should have a stone rank
Wood tier boyz
Copper rank
Fixed it


Alright I'm getting a cat thinking I'll name it Kaiser 
It's actually a good name
It will destroy everything you own and fuck you up
Wait wha
It will land a 6 man shatter on your family
So tsun
Also don't let it watch you playing Overwatch
True it'll be ashamed
Oh shit you guys also need to register

If you're doing poorly, it will tilt so hard your graphic card will explode
Graphics card
If only I had a real build 
Integrated graphics?
Out here with a laptop til I build
rip
Deadrogue lol
If you are in, https://arena.razerzone.com
Wait wha
Well.. There is no team more deserving.. π https://t.co/mpuJdcQow2
How does a team that can only dive deserve this
Nrg deserves it
They are more diverse ππ»
Lol
Diversity doesn't mean anything if you're not that good
Rogue definitely deserves to go
And they may also be going anyway
They should give nrg more time π’
Tfw no Monte and Doa 
Tbf
NRG wasnt even half strong with their come back as Rogue was in what
February or March OMM? First online they took after comjng back from hiatus
Joke or not I don't see how Rogue doesnt deserve it
so now we hate dive comp like back then we hated triple tanks?
I am hating the way they always win in a stomp
It's not dive
It's just that there's no competition
well,then other teams need to git gud
I mean
or get rekt
I don't like dive over triple tank no
thats simple
But Rogue is so clean
Lul
Rogue will be in Korea
Lol
I bet they are scared of nrg
i really wish theres a tournament as big as dota's TI
Thats why they are going to korea
but for teams
Bam you hate Rogue but they've been one of the best things to happen to NA
not national
Look at Liquid, IMT, Selfless etc.
Yeahh
So many teams have started improving after Rogue relocated
with this world cup
To me it looks easy
Rogue has brought another level of skill to the scene and so teams are adapting and improving their own game
you can almost guess the semi-finalist
When I see how rogue play, I can easily play with them
Like they literally dive so fast
How is it hard to retreat with lucio boost too?
They are gonna be back stronk
And are participating in the Rumble
apex s2 you mean?
Yeah
Yes
they lose heavily?
I didnt follow apexS2 so I dont really know
nV got knocked out in quarters
That was season 1
will seagull move to another team?
We don't know, he said on stream there was a reason in his statement about stepping down from the active roster that he said "return to play competitively" not "return to play with NRG"
He is probably going to stop pro stuff until OWL
He said he loves the guys on NRG too much to force his way back on the roster
that doesn't make sense
Why not
So @spring lintel you actually dont know how poor NV looked post patch
How they lost
And was eliminated
Nope
I wasnt following esport back then
But they just need to practice they are all world class
so seagull loves the guys on nrg too much he wouldn't force himself back on nrg when OWL starts?
wasn't mendo only a sub
unless he actually joined
If the new dps is good he wont be back to nrg
hey
Mendo is a sub
but seagull replacement is only temporary player,right?
Yes
not contracted to nrg
Guys I think nrg is not registering right now because they want to wait till the tournament is full so they can make an excuse π€
Harb said they want to pick up Mendo
"Oh we tried to join but it was too late π¨:
But mendo is with C9
I think he said that so many times
They can pick up silkthread
Like he would make the roster lit
π₯
What heroes are in Silk's arsenal
Genji and tracer
Is that it 
Yes
Mainly tracer
He is like soon
Nrg already have iddqd
But for genji theres no one
I havent seen his genji though he only tracer in amm
I think
Nu
Selfless couldn't afford him lul
Well by OWL Selfless won't be under Selfless probably
Not that they'd do that anyway
can someone explain what's the concept of overwathc league?
I think it's a league like soccer league ?
With lots and lots of money
A single slot in the league costs like 10 million $
Some of them are more some of them are less
Sinatra>seagull
Nah sinatraa > seagull for selfless at this point
They already have good chemistry together
And to trade sinatraa for seagull means changing the team's whole playstyle
Too much work
I don't really know how you would compare pros with different hero pools/roles.
Well, i was comparing them in terms of how it would affect Selfless roster as a whole
Yeah I agree with what you said Gankyou
I'd say Seagull plays a better Zarya than Sinatraa, maybe a better Genji, but as Gank says team chemistry is very important and there's no reason to not have Sinatraa
His Tracer is obv his #1 asset
Sorry on really bad internet I thought my message sent earlier but it only seemed to have went through now when I opened the app again. π
His Zarya while not the best does the job when necessry
Save for the questionable gravs, but that's an easy fix
Also OWL exists
The issue is how Blizzard plans to divulge it in time and not keep orgs in confusion
Indeed
yeah
i mean
will there be new clubs that's participatign on OWL
or
will it be filled by the current pro-teams,like envyus
then it'll be Washington NRG or some shit
What
NRG "bought"?
Wasn't it Washington itself that chose NRG as their esports team
Like the whole org, not just for OW
@onyx shore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFHpK627XkI
And it seems Philly 76ers bought Dignitas
Idk how that translates to OWL city arrangements but anyway
that happend some time ago
either a lil before the Rogue- Steve Aoki thing for a bit after
I knew the DC sponsoring NRG thing close to the day the news was out
Just wondering how will these orgs playing OW still "needing to buy" OWL slots with major city-based sports teams buying esports orgs left and right
there's too much uncertainty about this
figured more details would've been unvailed at this point, if not to the general public, at least to the pro scene loominaty
OWL is going to be hype
http://www.twitch.tv/teamkongdoo_rascal ππππ
Dad
Some unconfirmed rumours
Looking like there's another death group in apex
And mighty aod is right in the middle of it
@forest raven where are you hearing that from? π
Is rogue in it
ic
Are the new Apex EN casters good?
Can anyone send me a link to a video of when C9 jumps of point because a D. Va ult and then loses the game?
wolf did a few of the first days in group stage cause monte had some problem that he couldnt make it
he's alright
Hey ppl ICYMI did an article on three of the map drafting formats that have been used in professional Overwatch with some thoughts and suggestion on each.
Assessing the Overwatch map drafting formats
http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/6014/
As always, feedback is welcome and appreciated and feel free to share if you enjoy it! ^^
seriously, wtf is dafran's aim
I really love that him and Spree both climbed the ladder together originally and both became pros
And both track like monsters on their respective heroes XD
imagine Unkoe, Ryuu, Necro/Whoru/Haksal, kaiser, Emongg?, and dafran/harryhook.
in one team
Unkoe and Jehong?
yes
unkoe on zenyatta maybe?
they can learn lucio it;s not that hard
There'd be too much communication issues
necros has the better ult
outside of dragonblades necros is... yeah
yeah
necros is bronze af outside of his totallylegitβ’ dragonblades
but who is better than emongg?
I've only seen Emongg on road
Pretty sure he's just Road
he definitely swapped vs rogue at some point outside of stalls iirc
So if you want an actual off tank, even Harb is better
I wouldn't really make such kind of declerations about selfless tbh
they really haven't shown much of themselves
outside of that one comp
that they run really well
i havent seen him play anything else so idk
isnt he a good zarya
we need someone good with both roadhog and zarya
Harb
mostly because hulk thinks that he has amazing tracking
but idk about mickie's dps pool
he's a dps player
but I've never seen him on dps in a tournament
Harb is the only player I can think of that plays a really good Road and Zarya
@toxic yacht
Well this is just a dream team
not thinking about how it would actually work
what about haksal and harryhook/dafran? can any of them fill in tanks?
for triple tank setup
I dont think Haksal can play anything efficiently outside of Genji
lord haksal's live π https://www.twitch.tv/apzks1236
Harry can play Hitscan and Lucio
what about whoru?
i guess shadowburn/shadder are better then
ngl I think Shadder is the best Genji player if you want flexibility
shadow burn plays other stuff right?
i know shadder plays zarya and genji only right?
Recently he has but it hasnt been impressive
Shadder plays Zarya, Genji, Road and 76
Oh and D.Va
shadder it is then
Also Reaper, but he's useless atm
damn that would be an insane team
flame thinks that haksal is a really good zarya
but that's just that, flame's opinion
he is not better than shadder in that regard tho
I'm not all that great at figuring out who's a good zarya except you pull a harb/hoon and have gravs every few seconds
or alternatively, you're permanently melting the team
i want harbs grav dude
oh yeah, haksal also plays a relatively good mei
lol no thanks
whoru on the other hand is pretty much a genji main who can perform well, but not exceptionally well on other projectile heroes like pharah
I'm really liking this meme
https://twitter.com/iddqdOW/status/854002759808327680
@MonteCristo There is no other team more deserving to go to Korea than Selfless.
Winz the memelord












insta gravs or 80+ avg energy
Now I'm interested where is this from https://twitter.com/ggHarsha/status/854385364194086912
Nothing will change
lmao 6 tviqs
Looks like the survey resulted in no concrete action or even experimentation on /r/overwatch. Nothing will change, shit will remain.
/r/Overwatch should be representative of all types of content related to the game. It is not at all right now and this will not change that

should rename the sub to r/competitivetwitterwatch
r/competitiveMonteWatch
Who @ me I can't use the search feature on mobile
Someone asked if you were participating in the Rumble quals @tough wind
Yes we are
Nice
@spring lintel You'll be happy to hear
I'm not sure who they r going to stream but that's the link
Thanks mate
yum yum
C9 is fine with Mendo playing with you ? @tough wind
btw ajax, there should be an @ button right next to settings and stuff on mobile to see your recent mentions, and the newest discord version has the search function. Not sure if the @ is only with the newest version though
We already know they are @floral harness
@floral harness no twitch emotes lol
I'm still new to discord ahah Didn't know why my message didn't went through
yeah, you should have gotten pinged in #147153976687591424
bot should have informed you about why your message was deleted
this server doesn't like twitch emotes
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yay..
what was I saying about it not being NRG?
can the entire pro scene now stop hating on them?
it's not their fault if they had gotten an invite
Memes never die Sojum.
Not in a week at least.
Lmao fucking Mendo Reeee'ed on twitter

lol wat
According to Thorin, Seagull's gf had a say on who stays and who leaves NRG
That's some hot, spicy gossip right there π₯
Unless everyone knew and I'm late to the party
Thorin spews a lot of stuff
is a lot of it true? probably
is a lot of it not true? probably
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I heard those rumours floating around before but I have not really seen anybody who has been Seagull's teammate say anything officially.
@limber pine that's why I said gossip
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how many of you are there now?
Looks like 3

Oh do we know who NRG will be playing with for Rumble?
inb4 NRG tryouts thorough all Rumble also coL
I hope so I just know Num said they might not be able to use him
Naisu
Lul

I hope your The Law Esports page looks as good as this one -> https://arena.razerzone.com/teams/profile/Team18518/members
whats the logo
ajax answered 
Link
wha
Only the quals
yeah ik
mednoksuaii
mednokissass
that will probably happen
Plz no, I wanna see them on stream π’
is the part today streamed at all?
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i dont see any indication any of it is streamed
if NRG plays how they did on Sunday they should qualify
yeeh they played IMT super close
if they dont slip up they defintely should in theory be able to qualify
NRG hype π€

They were warming up in comp for the amm π
kek
They need nrg red
This Thorin/Seagull thing...
I feel like Seagull will probably address this directly
I hope he does
I've been loving the scene this past few days tbh lol
https://twitter.com/Grego_OW/status/854460460581531648 what's this fucking six stack bullshit omg
who's e girl hunter
wtf that's the second time they've had their six stack queue into all solo queuers lol
Num
He's an esport enthousiast who's been making videos about esports for a while in CS:GO then LoL then some dota, and now Overwatch.
Him and Montee usually host shows for the subject of his video game wise.
He likes to speak about controversial topics as well as creating some brouhaha
He's decently known and his popularity spiked when he called Reginald the owner of TSM ugly and that he looked like a Monkey.
Exploded into a wave of drama for the comment being racist etc etc
Yeah, I don't know much about his CS carreer sinc eit was never a game I paid much attention to.
I only bought CS:GO + stuff to play Gary's Mod.
yea its my CS friend who linked me the vid first
he's pretty much worshiped in that scene, the way he puts it
Also considered an eSports historian, knows a lot of eSports stuff because he's been involved for 16 years
His channel is definitely a library.
Live now!
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Attending teams:
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Yee, thooorin is a pretty big name in cs, that's from where I got to know him in the first place
Gotcha. I met him via League since most of my friends played it. When him and Montee started hooking up.
He predicted Astralis to win eLeague earlier this year
He did?
I love Thorin because he's an absolute asshole
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Monte is Thorin's daughter
and then he predicted Astralis was going to win the entire major
So everyone thought rip astralis
but they won
a real underdog story
Classic example of history written by winners
that video is amazing btw
They were against VP right?
In the finals yeah

Gull's attorney in comments flaming thorin
wait Polo it's not live now?
it's delayed
it's hosting some other dude
It should be 
It is difficult to see Seagull making all these decisions though. He always said he didn't see himself as a leader.
That's because I wasn't. The last iteration of the NRG roster with clockwork/numlocked wasn't even my decision. I was at World Cup playing with team USA and told the team I had reservations about clockwork's passion for the game but ultimately it was their choice because I wasn't in a position to make an informed decision (I wasn't in scrims at that time) and directly told NRG that we had other DPS options to explore. He was signed regardless as the team really pushed for him.
This is just one example of misinformation in this video. I was never contacted for my side of the story however, so it's not surprising.
- Seagull
The birdman himself chimed in on the thread
He doesn't seem like he likes making those types of decision anyway.
PErsonnality wise. Although I don't know him personnaly so.
?
Ya his real name pops if you hover the check mark
@toxic yacht is there a source on that
He's some sort of esports attorney
yeh
He posted on League reddit too pretty often.
He wants to group/unionize esport players
@gentle shuttle
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/6652dj/thorins_thoughts_seagull_leaves_everyone_adrift_ow/dgfu0s8
Wait
I'm going for some snacks for both the Rumble stream and the Reddit thread
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Oh fuck they are gonna stream nrg?
its late here
Phoenix9 lel
Def be nice if they do
I def think NRG improved though.
You don't go 2-0 v IMT and 2-1 next day without improving.
WHERE'S JOSHY'S COL SHIRT
TRAVESTY
Were they already playing?
Torbjorn: "See? I told you it was going to work. It just needed a little time to warm up"
Reinhardt: "Is it ready to go then?"
Torbjorn: "Not... quite yet"
NRG is the payload.
They played 17 mins ago
Gotcha
wat...
nV made it π So happy for Fahzix
I dunno wtf is this thing
He's been trying pretty hard to make it.

Yeah wtf is bye?
Bunch of teams actually
A bye means you directly move up
Other team can't make it or forfaits
Yeah thought so
They have bye to all the known teams π
I guess it avoids them having to meet too soon
Rigged dude
R I G G E D
uh oh its jorosar
Who tf are this people lmfao
I'm kinda hyped though since Stanky is actually playing.
Wanted to see him have fun on a team.
Round 2 is already going on
actually hearing his voice reminds me of the first Overwatch Open qual where ANOX destroyed Rogue/Misfits
good lord i miss that team, as hot and cold their performances were
LMFAOOOO
Mercy player named MErcy.
Some can't handle the overlay
It shouod have been BO1
That was really nice.
http://www.reddit.com/user/NRG_Insider/
Minstrel's apparent Reddit account saying that this account is accurate
3spicy5me
Last time Brazil played they did ok
They beat fnatic
And went 2-1 against someone else
Beating Fnatic an accomplishment
does anyone know anything about these 2 teams
Nope
oki
No idea who this people are
Lol nrg if they wanna go all the way needs to win against tempo and brasil gaming
It means they're not 100% shit is what it means.
Not saying fnatic is golden right now.
It isn't a real eSport without drama
More accurate lol
This shows that OW is finally measuring up to other eSports kapppa
Sometimes they rock and then the next round they die.
Reaper LUL
I really wish we get a dark horse in this tourney
Man Phoenix's comp
There might be one.
This looks like my weekly lootbox-farming arcade games
what is that
We're just at 64s
I feel like there's a lot of Ikari though
I don't even know what I'm watching tbh
Ping me if they show nrg
@spring lintel NRG test
Ok
Looking to be sponsered by a team? Want an org to pay for your entry fees for national and international tournaments? If you are part of or know a team that can compete at the highest level, please give me a ring and I'll be happy to arrange a meeting with you and the CEO!
#lf-players-na @vital inlet
Lol
Its the start of a Group of 64 lol
Are they getting bodied or what?








