I get my drama fill daily from anything involving Denial Esports
#esports-discussion
digital pond
balmy wolf
best channel
clever wagon
Gotta thank xQc
spring lintel
That's on ajax ๐๐
balmy wolf
tough agate
can confirm dafran lost his shit after seeing that
digital pond
Lmao
pine star
LOLOLOL
forest raven
"xQc is Pepsi while NRG is united airlines"
spring lintel
Who is this?
toxic yacht
lol, dafran didn't even care when iddqd went widow
digital pond
Rofl
tough agate
idd
balmy wolf
Thats iddqd
toxic yacht
ima adadad the shit out of you
spring lintel
LOL
clever wagon
@tough agate lost his shit? can explain pls?
balmy wolf
My dad beats me 
My mom beats me My brother beats me My sister beats me At least I feel safe with Ajax, because he never has beat 
Courtesy of Phaz
toxic yacht
and still get my 24/7 tac visor
tough agate
@clever wagon he was laughing really hard
i walked over to his pc right when he saw it in protalk
digital pond
Do I have to work at McDonalds like Dafran did to become a pro?
balmy wolf
tough agate
you could be a manager at gamestop like I was ๐ค
balmy wolf
fucking lol
clever wagon
Don't take any job and scrim 24/7
balmy wolf
I want in on protalk dude 
clever wagon
Guaranteed pro
toxic yacht
NRG is an even bigger meme than ow c9 ever was tbh
spring lintel
Wait denial can be a meme really ๐ค
balmy wolf
this is amazing
tough agate
let me tell you guys that C9 is fucking nuts right now
digital pond
I can't do that. Technically I could.
toxic yacht
although we don't have a "pulling an NRG" yet
digital pond
But my dad would lose his shit.
spring lintel
They did the united thing to their teammate
digital pond
The C9 with koreans?
digital pond
Better than pre Korean C9?
pine star
Could you just imagine dem memes if NRG failed to get on the point at some point tonight?
balmy wolf
Selly and Xepher ๐๐ป
clever wagon
C9 with the Koreans pretty gud?
digital pond
Are Xepher and selly just nutty?
toxic yacht
huh, that gets me hyped for rivalcade
tough agate
I think it's more bishops influence
digital pond
Damn that's kinda nice to hear frankly.
tough agate
and I think gods plays better than ryb
digital pond
Yeah Bishop has good experience to pass.
spring lintel
I love how rogue has 5 dps
pine star
Rivalcade is gonna be insane
spring lintel
They all do insane dmg
balmy wolf
Gods better than Ryb
forest raven
Think they can beat envy?
sturdy sentinel
scrims dont necessarily translate to actual play
balmy wolf
digital pond
I mean how is nV right now is a better question.
pine star
^
digital pond
Haven't seen much since they and C9 got buttslapped
tough agate
we haven't scrimmed them yet, but from what I hear they're doing ok
digital pond
Only NRG does good in scrims.
toxic yacht
Dafran is from denmark, right?
balmy wolf
they said they do good in scrims
tough agate
yeah
toxic yacht
lol, he'll carry the denmark wc team
tough agate
oh i can confirm that dafran actually said that thing before too
forest raven
I'm so hyped to watch c9 play again
tough agate
he said it when he rocket jumped to that platform
balmy wolf
Said what
tough agate
'i'm just playing for pogchamps'
balmy wolf
oh lul
spring lintel
I am excited to see good NA teams
toxic yacht
lul
digital pond
Dafran just seems like he's always meme'ing.
"Why did you tactical visor"
"Giving them a handicap"
tough agate
thats why we love him
digital pond
"Wdf dude"
balmy wolf
btw
clever wagon
Roast memes best memes
clever wagon
Just remember that you have the right IF you're in place to do so
Lest you'll be that Fnatic guy
digital pond
I mean i felt the same watching nV wipe to almost every KR teams.
clever wagon
forest raven
I'm so happy for NRG to play again because these memes are top of the line
forest raven
Winz' memeing during the pit was merely the precursor
tough agate
it's off the charts
balmy wolf
clever wagon
The situation right now just SCREAMS for memes bro
tough agate
could you guys see the in game chat during the game btw
balmy wolf
purple = pro role
forest raven
Yeah lol
pine star
@balmy wolf where you getting those
toxic yacht
ya lol
digital pond
I feel like people are gonna go way too ham on Ajax lmao
balmy wolf
starboard on the o.w.
clever wagon
@tough agate all chat is visible to spectators dw
clever wagon
You can meme all you want and we'll be watching
forest raven
I like how after sinatraa teabagged Mendo you guys lost the point
void dirge
spring lintel
I am feeling better
spring lintel
I hope he picks it up tmw
clever wagon
Oh man yeah
clever wagon
Twitch chat will be on HOT WHITE FIRE with everything rn
spring lintel
The fact he acknowledged gives him stars from me
balmy wolf
phaz is a top tier memer
tough agate
phaz is hysterical
digital pond
Gotta be during the sad times on Rise
toxic yacht
verified 
void dirge
whytro ๐ฎ
clever wagon
Niceuu
toxic yacht
twitch emotes get autodeleted
clever wagon
Sneaking in dat verified
tough agate
oh i didn't know
forest raven
"NRG has won about as much as flame has on splyce"
toxic yacht
LOL
forest raven
IMT 2-0'd East wind let's go champ
digital pond
Man I hope Denial gets spawn camped lmao.
balmy wolf
wtf
spring lintel
I always think that whytro is whoru
balmy wolf
Man
pine star
digital pond
Except Rogue.
forest raven
IMT just needed a break and now they've come out swinging again
clever wagon
So who's playing for Denial 6th slot now
tough agate
apparently denial is 1-1
digital pond
I think silk is still ringing?
clever wagon
Aw
tough agate
silkthread is absolutely insane
balmy wolf
Yeah dude
digital pond
Dude is really good.
tough agate
great player in TF2 and OW
digital pond
He carried hard yesterday.
balmy wolf
I wish him and harry stayed in $?
clever wagon
That consistent top 5 over 4 seasons ain't for nothing
balmy wolf
They were destroying
digital pond
Well at the time he was ringing for $?
tough agate
It was more silk than harry
balmy wolf
yeah ik
tough agate
I don't want to say anything bad, but Harry was a problem for them. the playstyles just didn't mesh
balmy wolf
but harry played better than beasthalo
on rein at least
but ik about how toxic harry is so
yeah better off without him
digital pond
Afaik Silk is interested in going pro, but it's a big decision to make.
Especially since he's a very good student.
clever wagon
Too late to watch NRG 0-2'd twice, right in time to see Rogue stomping the rest of Denial
Best
tough agate
I think he only wants to take a year off from college too
so it won't be for super long if he does
forest raven
Winz just tweeting on top of the payload 
digital pond
He takes his studies seriously. As he said "I'm asian"
digital pond
American.
clever wagon
Ethnicity?
digital pond
That I do not known.
clever wagon
Hmm
balmy wolf
Silkthread is apparently a sub for Evil
balmy wolf
and rings whenever he's asked
tough agate
yeah he was friends with them from TF2 iirc
clever wagon
yeah know that one
balmy wolf
silk plays hitscan and proj so well idk who he would be better at replacing on Evil
Im thinking train though
devout topaz
Who'll won this omm?
digital pond
@tough agate How much did you use to play ranked or do you still do with scrims and everything.
12 minutes delay.
tough agate
@digital pond I stopped for a whole season, but right now I'm leveling a smurf
digital pond
Holy. Finish your game.
clever wagon
@devout topaz probably not denial
digital pond
Why does everyone have a smurf >_<
balmy wolf
I'm thinking Rogue but it's looking a lot more competitive this time around @devout topaz
tough agate
I just don't wanna play rein in ranked
balmy wolf
Playing rein in ranked sucks dude
tough agate
but my name + my stats only being rein on my main
i had other rein mains giving it up to me
like PLEASE
balmy wolf
holy shit
tough agate
JUST LET ME ENJOY MY LIFE
tough agate
i'll never get tired of playing it on an organized team
sturdy sentinel
30 minutes rein total play time here
tough agate
but ranked is a different beast
tough agate
if I can play heavy for 4 years, I can play rein for the rest of my life
digital pond
Rein the ever so wanted hero that no one wants to play. To the point that Rein mains burn out.
clever wagon
Watching yourself losing shield battle all the time
sturdy sentinel
you lose braincells holding right click for 67% of the game
balmy wolf
having a 76 and hanzo on offence
tough agate
not if you use Mouse 5 for shield 
balmy wolf
and losing shield battle
digital pond
Lmao
balmy wolf
sturdy sentinel
i have that bound to melee
tough agate
i just have weird ass binds for every hero
clever wagon
Jump on right click?
tough agate
m5 alt fire, right click ability 1, shift ult
soft jetty
are there any vods for the nrg matches today
balmy wolf
Yes
tough agate
for rein it's right click fire strike, F charge, m5 shield
sturdy sentinel
I think having abilities on the mouse is better overall
gentle shuttle
that's why Flame was so reserved about passing judgement on them
digital pond
Like he got bitch slapped by Karma.
gentle shuttle
you'll notice he kept praising East Wind instead
tough agate
p sure nrg will only get better
digital pond
I just think this is hilarious more than anything.
pine star
He just needs to retweet his own tweet to drop the mic
digital pond
Dummy's attitude was exactly what he was criticizing Flame for
gentle shuttle
i like the new polo name
digital pond
Yeh played better in their later game.
But a lot of it also came from Mendo's Pharah.
pine star
And Harbleu
digital pond
Yeh Harb's hog did some work.
tough agate
mendos also playing with 100+ ping
gentle shuttle
iddqd didn't have as much presense as i thought we would have
sturdy sentinel
I wonder if pro OW players would ever get as popular among the playerbase as they are in LoL
balmy wolf
He showed up in the later games
digital pond
Mendo did better once he got put on McCree imo.
gentle shuttle
i guess iddqd was dealing with the same ping issues too
forest raven
Do you think Harb was doing work, kresnik?
solid spear
nope
digital pond
But they waited so long ebfore letting him McCree
balmy wolf
Idd is in Canada
solid spear
my dad is in Canada
gentle shuttle
ooo
tough agate
OWL could help with that but who knows @sturdy sentinel
i mean, harb had some plays, like the long flank on me on dorado first
digital pond
Dummy's Ana felt like he was playing a different game.
tough agate
Harb performed well, Dummy did what he could while being pressured a lot
gentle shuttle
do u feel like NRG weren't protecting Dummy enough at times
or was he out of position
spring lintel
I really want to see someone review nrg games
tough agate
I mean, my perspective on the game was numlockeds face 90% of the time. everyone else would have a better idea of that
pine star
Monte doesn't really care for online tourneys
tough agate
I didn't get to see the IMT NRG or EW NRG games
dusty surge
Hey Kresnik: what's your favorite defense hero named Mei?
spring lintel
Cause I am still convinced that numlocked had the biggest impact on the result
ashen umbra
Hard to tell. Dummy might have done better if Ajax was peeling for him, but a lot of the time he died was to Genji players because he was too far back and not taking queues on when to move up.
dusty surge
What!? This guy's a phony! Where's whytro to ban him for pro player impersonation!?
toxic yacht
tfw mei is bugged but people still use her while Junkrat stays untouched
tough agate
EW ran Mei on KR
we were really confused
they mei ulted and everyone just walked away
toxic yacht
Says a lot about Junkrat tbh
spring lintel
Mei is used for her walls
digital pond
i mean she can work there.
dusty surge
Walls, delaying and the occasional snipe.
digital pond
Esca made her work.
tough agate
I mean, mei on KR in general is fine
forest raven
Old patch
tough agate
it's the fact that her M1 and ult are bugged that confused us
forest raven
When esca played
digital pond
Thought the patch already played it
ashen umbra
So does every other player on ladder
digital pond
came in*
toxic yacht
How does something like that even go live, lol?
spring lintel
But yeah it's just a dream ๐
digital pond
BAAAM requested it
dusty surge
There's another tourney tomorrow?
toxic yacht
I can understand the genji ult bug but the mei thing is just lol
spring lintel
Not literally btw
dusty surge
Damn... hard to keep up with all of these.
spring lintel
And also nrg tmw
gentle shuttle
the vexing thing about any genji nerf
spring lintel
Lower brackets
tough agate
that's next week isnt it
ashen umbra
Won't happen. They just had a ton of pressure to perform, failed to perform. If they can overcomed that mental state, it would give me a lot more hope for them though.
gentle shuttle
is the fact that they wont fix wallclimb and hit reg on ult
pine star
I'll have proper internet tomorrow FeelsGoodMan
forest raven
Rivalcade begins on like the 20th
digital pond
You're right krenisk
toxic yacht
They acknowledged noregs
spring lintel
Nrg next match is gonna have insane pressure
gentle shuttle
idk
toxic yacht
But gave no ETA for fixes
digital pond
At this point it's perma pressure.
gentle shuttle
i cant see them having more pressure next week than tonights
forest raven
ashen umbra
You would think. Ajax in particular seems like the kind of player to take this loss really hard. He's a good guy, but still really new to everything.
toxic yacht
ashen umbra
Also, is his name pronounced Ay-jacks or Eye-acks?
toxic yacht
Ay jax
gentle shuttle
probable ay
ashen umbra
I've never heard him say his own name.
gentle shuttle
only other Ajax i've heard of is the one from Borderlands
digital pond
Even if he wasn;t he's getting flamed so hard in the O.W discord
He would take it hard either way.
ashen umbra
Duh, I forget his last name was Jackson. Alex Jackson. A-Jacks
toxic yacht
Seagull's name is Seagen Gullia
forest raven
My username has about zero meaning lol
pine star
How do you get in the O.W discord?
solid spear
I mean
solid spear
aw
toxic yacht
Star Platinum
balmy wolf
tough agate
I think you have to show you're a high ranked player to someone, but I can't remember @pine star
tough agate
I got invited during closed beta
toxic yacht
Slasher handing out invites like he's giving out flyers
tough agate
denial 2-1 Meta Athena
toxic yacht
Not really surprised tbh
tough agate
yeah, ping sucks
I really wish they stopped inviting the KR teams. No disrespect to them at all but every game being able to be handwaved by ping makes it feel like they don't matter
Like we lost today, but we played bad, no excuse for that
toxic yacht
Yeah, it also takes away a spot from another NA team
tough agate
We beat runaway, and we didn't play well, it's just ping. It might've just been, but no one will ever know
toxic yacht
As much as I appreciate seeing those guys play, I don't like it
tough agate
yeah, does anyone know if there was actually a notable increase in viewership for runaway that OMM?
cause I know that's why they invite them
makes sense from a business perspective but still
toxic yacht
I actually have no idea since I only watched the vods. Dunno about the other people here
tough agate
I imagine it was good, since they invited MA this time
spring lintel
Fucking hell silkthread looks smooth as fuck
void dirge
its pizza, because it comes from 'zza
balmy wolf
I kept calling him zha
spring lintel
I think they are making up names
If he is pizza they can obviously write more than 3 letters
void dirge
saying "grab some 'zza" is a thing from new york
balmy wolf
wouldnt it just be zah then?
tough agate
There was a late night pizza place called 'Za!' Like 30 minutes from my house but I never heard anyone call it 'za' in conversation in NY
void dirge
it can be either
tough agate
lived there my whole life till I moved to the team house
void dirge
maybe im thinking of detroit
fierce geode
my idiot friends have called it pizz before
clever wagon
I just wish skins would soon be available again in tournmeys
I want to see SoOn in his Ultraviolet Tracer
tough agate
The comments on the Webster page say Cali, but they also all say stuff about scrabble so ๐ค
clever wagon
'Cause I first see him in February OMM donning it
tough agate
The rules even say 'skins: Go Nuts' but they still turn it off for streamed games
I just want my Bundeswehr 
void dirge
lolwtf
fierce geode
i had some of my non-overwatch playing friends watch the ogn finals and asked them if they could follow what was going on and they said it was super confusing cause they couldn't tell who was on what team
void dirge
โฉ
fierce geode
would team skins be a solution to that?
like blue team literally has blue skins and red has red skins
tough agate
When the skins leaked, dhak was actually super excited cause he thought they were releasing that exact thing ^
fierce geode
even if its just the spectators
clever wagon
"WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY CONTEST THE POINT"
tough agate
He just saw the bright blue and got super hype
fierce geode
oh the overwatch team skins?
tough agate
Yeah
fierce geode
oh i know that would be so sick
i mean it could be a step in that direction
they've already got 4 of them!!! 20 more to go!!!
fierce geode
i would very much like that but i mean they're pretty themed...
ashen umbra
So I have a question. I don't know if you can answer it Kresnik or if anyone else can, but has Silkthread playing for Denial brought up any ethical issues? Like what is the stance of pro-players on Tier 2 or 3 teams paying Tier 1 players to play for them in non-emergency situations? Especially considering Silkthread has no intention to stay on with the team.
tough agate
If you force the pharmercy to drop low, tracer can annihilate it
I mean, this game is so dependent on team synergy and coordination that it can hurt you, unless it's a massive massive upgrade
fierce geode
i think i saw sinatraa get high ground on mendo as pharah and just blink in the air towards him while shooting to delete him and recall back lol
tough agate
It's a massive upgrade in this case, but silkthread is a really special case
balmy wolf
Denial traded cohesion for mechanical skill
tough agate
He's one of the best DPS in NA, and doesn't have a team because of his age/desires for school
digital pond
I mean I was also wondering when Denial did practice considering XQC was streaming 24/7
balmy wolf
They had been with Jolson for months but decided to drop him for silk because of the raw sill difference
tough agate
Not many other players and situations like that will pop up
digital pond
And the org probably wondered the same.
fierce geode
has he been calling him pizza this whole time?! lmao
fierce geode
no it was 3 rounds that went to rogue
tough agate
I'll tell you, I think the last time we scrimmed denial was Valentine's Day
clever wagon
Oh, Flame instead of Pineapple Slasher now
tough agate
And I only remember that because that was the day we went insane
fierce geode
insane good or bad? lol
balmy wolf
when is insane ever bad 
tough agate
We were tilted from losing in random tournaments, so someone (I forget who) just said fuck it, play it like ranked. We need to be aggressive
And that's when it started
fierce geode
lmao
tough agate
We literally just went insane, laughing, spawncamping
Barely comming anything useful
But we were winning and we stuck with it
behind the scenes
fierce geode
who knew "having fun" was the best sstrategy
clever wagon
I imagine uncoordinated aggression piled with Dafrag
and Sinatraa's mechanical skills can kinda work well
Plus having mad fun
tough agate
I mean, we tuned it up from there and work together during it now
But that's how it started
clever wagon
BtS of Selfless' spawncamps
tough agate
That first day that I was the only one on cart
My comms were basically sighs
But it worked out so ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
clever wagon
tough agate
At least I'm guaranteed one gold every game
fierce geode
hahahahha
pine star
lolololol
spring lintel
Numlocked for sure didn read that
supple nymph
rogue must be getting tired
balmy wolf
when you were winning
fierce geode
oh man i've had so many games where my team is just killing them as they come near the payload and i just sit there on the payload. cant imagine it in tourneys hahaha
holy shit what a surprise. rogue running 3 dps winston
pine star
@fierce geode liar
forest raven
If it ain't broke don't fix it
balmy wolf
They're not gonna switch until they play a team thats a problem
pine star
Selfless was a problem though 
balmy wolf
Not enough of one
fierce geode
i watched the overview where they had winz on it (my god it was hard to understand him) but he said soon is so good at tracer it'd be a waste for him to run anything else lol
balmy wolf
It seems
tough agate
they've run other stuff against us in scrims, but I think they just prefer that comp for matches
most comfortable on it
balmy wolf
They did switch NiCO to Zarya sometimes
clever wagon
Hm, nobody focused xQc monkey rage
tough agate
and Dva
supple nymph
rip denial
balmy wolf
now they run dva quite a lot
tough agate
i wish I could tell you guys how Knoxx's rein is
but I've seen it for about 30 seconds max
balmy wolf
rip
fierce geode
lol
supple nymph
the only way to fight 3 dps winston is 3 dps winston right? pharmercy wont work will it
fierce geode
was it the best 30 seconds of your life?
tough agate
it was a nice change of pace from the dive ๐
fierce geode
lol what are your comms like during dive?
balmy wolf
Hopefully we see a new comp come out during the Rumble
tough agate
DAFRAN GET THE FUCK BACK OVER HERE
fierce geode
i mean its gotta be hard to keep track of everything even at a pro level
tough agate
basically
fierce geode
lmao
pine star
Kresnik during dive: "I'm getting cooked alive in here"
tough agate
i mean usually i'm just saying that the zen/soldier are zoned
and calling my shield
everyone else calls targets then
fierce geode
now im picturing rein lucio and zen just kinda hanging out in the frontline while everything is going nuts in the backline
tough agate
i'll bring a deck of cards for me and unkoe next time
tough agate
I gotta equip the good emotes
supple nymph
LMAO
tough agate
also idk why Denial wants to run pharah into zen soldier on volskaya of all maps
clever wagon
LUL
supple nymph
THAT MEI
fierce geode
pumpkin smashing!!!
tough agate
it's so wide open
forest raven
Roasted
clever wagon
Someone in Twitch chat said Gingerpop is a Mercy main
tough agate
AKM should just melt them or at least zone the hell out of them
supple nymph
"shooting that mei where the sun dont shine"
fierce geode
winz has been running a lot of zen lately
ashen umbra
I miss Soon's Zen.
clever wagon
tough agate
yeah, on maps with high ground they seem to prefer ana + zen over lucio
they just hold it while contesting with the mobile heroes
clever wagon
ZP with the hot puns
balmy wolf
Hex coming right back
balmy wolf
clever wagon
I mean they did happen to take 1st point swiftly with Zza dropping the toppings
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
fierce geode
now i wanna get a team together with all the food named pros
get me waffletastic and... psychowaffle
spring lintel
Dude wtf
clever wagon
If I went pro I'll use "CottonCandy"
spring lintel
Someone needs to fuck rogue
tough agate
that defense by rogue was smart
spring lintel
I am so triggered that no one can beat rogue
tough agate
they just didn't think about res at first, but holding out there against a dive comp is so good
soldier has all the room in the world, and they cant walk up behind rein shield
supple nymph
ORISA
tough agate
orisa torb
spring lintel
Orisa?
fierce geode
no one can beat rogue ... yet
tough agate
balmy wolf
This is what happens when a top tier EU teams moves to NA
supple nymph
THROW COMP
spring lintel
Throw?
tough agate
TSM ran this in scrims on like 4 different maps
and I still don't get it
it's just not great
forest raven
TSM 
spring lintel
Is it an actual strat?
fierce geode
tsm? lol theres a name i havent heard in OW in a while
pine star
Did someone say... TSM? ๐
spring lintel
Who is tsm?
balmy wolf
TSM has been trialing since picking up Kungarna
forest raven
Team SoloMid
spring lintel
Is it a restaurant
supple nymph
throw comp successful
tough agate
they're playing with different people very time we scrim them outside of the two constants, who are the same from when ajax was on
fierce geode
oh right they got babybay, mykl and iremiix right?
balmy wolf
Nope
pine star
No
balmy wolf
Thats splyce
tough agate
no, that's splyce
pine star
Those are Splyce
forest raven
ConnorJ and B1am IIRC
balmy wolf
Connorj and b1am
fierce geode
oh right right
tough agate
yeah
fierce geode
it was the other kungarna boys
tough agate
except connor plays on an alt every time for some reason
balmy wolf
TSM doesnt like hackers
tough agate
still don't know why we all know its him
spring lintel
I am so tired of seeing rogue always winning like this
tough agate
rogue will do well in KR I think
fierce geode
was b1am the ana player?
tough agate
idk if they'll take it all
but they're going to do well
just from having watched a lot of KR and playing rogue a lot
forest raven
I can see Rogue getting a top 4 finish pretty easily tbh
balmy wolf
Yeah he is hunterz
balmy wolf
i kind of want to see MA play but
supple nymph
@spring lintel DONT MISS ROGUE VS KOREAN
spring lintel
Rogue is just boring
balmy wolf
im really tired
spring lintel
Rogue is just stomping everything
tough agate
dive is boring to play against and not fun to watch IMO
clever wagon
I can imagine Rogue's ultra aggressive dive tearing a hole in a lot of KR teams
spring lintel
Dive is fun if there's competition
fierce geode
korea are so good at adjusting to strats though
spring lintel
And not just rogue jumping in and destroying everyone
balmy wolf
Especially a dive like rogues
fierce geode
they arent afraid to run the weird shit to win
tough agate
playing against dive correctly without diving yourself is what's boring to watch
fierce geode
i agree with @tough agate that they'll do well at first but once korea figures them out then they'll get shutdown so hard
forest raven
They'll finally switch off their dive probably during playoffs
tough agate
playing tight and just disengaging in the new lucio aura gets repetitive
fierce geode
and yeah anti dive is kinda boring
forest raven
Depending on their group
tough agate
I don't think they'll need to, they can adapt how they play it
they can play slow and bust shields with solly/zen before, wait for one of them to overextend
clever wagon
Ooh
tough agate
or build a blade
clever wagon
Oooo here it is
fierce geode
apex finals were hype as hell cause it was genji and tracer vs genji and tracer
clever wagon
Rogue vs MA
fierce geode
@tough agate solly?
tough agate
rogue is in vegas, so they're going to have really low ping compared to MA
@fierce geode sorry, TF2 habit
clever wagon
S76
tough agate
that was shorthand for soldier in tf2
fierce geode
oh lol
supple nymph
MA is korean though
fierce geode
why are meta athena even in this though?
supple nymph
๐คท
tough agate
it's gonna be like 18-20 ping vs. 110/120
tough agate
our house is in ATL so us vs. runaway was like 70-80 vs. that
fierce geode
i mean its cool but not really a good representation of how NA is versus KR
clever wagon
I mean I'm sure there's a good incentive for the teams themselves
Even just the taste of each other means a lot
fierce geode
i mean if they end up winning then they just won with like 100 ping... if they lose then they can blame it on ping
i take it back
clever wagon
No, you see
fierce geode
i know exactly why they're playing lol
clever wagon
KR side probably don't care too much about winning since they know they're on like ~20x ping disadvantage than their domestic connection
But idk
I just see it that way
tough agate
yeah, they're used to 5-6 ping at home
so the difference can be huge, compared to NA which (for us at least) can vary from 25 at the lowest to 80 at the highest
clever wagon
What matters to them is the taste of other regions... Probably
That's what I think if I were on their shoes anyway
forest raven
Also exposure outside of Korea
clever wagon
Just like how Fusion Girls (in memoriam) just scrimmed inter-continental teams one after another
spring lintel
Okay tmw I am going to make a montage of that 1 game where numlocked literally charged in every push and died
Stay tuned
clever wagon
Someone pls summon the Fusion Girls emote in remembrance
spring lintel
Fusion ๐งs
tough agate
clever wagon
Shit u sayin' the old logo is gone even from emotes?
forest raven
Tearing shit up in the OPC 
tough agate
I don't see it anywhere
balmy wolf
I had it on my server
forest raven
clever wagon
balmy wolf
removed it soon after
clever wagon
The old FG logo will always be in my heart
balmy wolf
no other server had it
forest raven
Have you watched Blank much, Kresnik?
forest raven
Did you watch them in the first week?
tough agate
Hard to judge bc I have no clue how good these other teams they're playing are relative to the other regions
forest raven
Yeah, exactly
I hope they can get the chance to go to NA and play, just to see how they stack up
tough agate
hopefully OWL gives them that chance
forest raven
Yeah, if they can win the OPC (which looks quite likely) that will definitely garner them some rep
tough agate
he was just singing like a minute ago
getting to listen to him and Jay play in the background all the time is a treat
there's always something funny going on
a couple days ago, dafran was at the last spawn on R66 attack as symm, built a tele there, and had 6 turrets on the door
spawn camped for the entire time while his team capped 2nd
then he died, took the TP, and went right back to it
me and brad were dying
forest raven
That sounds amazing
tough agate
there's only one spawn exit in KR
supple nymph
mei again...
fierce geode
is it li-bear-o or li-burr-o
fierce geode
that's what i thought lol
tough agate
webster said lee bear o
fierce geode
we talking webster dictionary?
tough agate
Ye
tough agate
They have worse net than Runaway LOL
fierce geode
lol was meta athena a promo team or were they invited?
tough agate
Invited to OMM, promoted in Apex
fierce geode
ah so just like runaway then
tough agate
Yep!
fierce geode
not like an org or anything
cool cool
i love this strat by rogue
take all the buildings
tough agate
Not sure about the org situation but yeah
This is hard to deal woth
Can confirm
Only way to break it early is with a God hook
fierce geode
lol
kinda seems like a turf war
i dont think having a mccree was gonna help too much
tough agate
I mean, it helps them until rogue jumps
fierce geode
lol okay sayaplayer
tough agate
If rogue is just sitting up top and spamming, then the Cree can be good
But once they're in, he can be an easy target
Unless they play it perfectly
fierce geode
yeah i mean idk if they watched any of rogue's games but you know they're gonna dive you
well they should know
tough agate
For a second I thought you asked if I watched any rogue games LOL. But yeah, they're gonna jump eventually, but they take their time on that point on this patch
fierce geode
sayaplayer is a good mccree though so he could pull it off if anyone i suppose
tough agate
I think they noticed how passive they were playing it w/ the Ana zen solly
tough agate
LMFAO
tough agate
again, pharmercy into zen soldier
fierce geode
i dont think they were expecting that
tough agate
I don't like it
fierce geode
rogue running it into MA?
tough agate
No MA ran it into rogue
Pharmercy melts to zen solly
Especially with AKM + the ping
forest raven
I feel like Rogue would beat MA on LAN, as well
Not this dominantly perhaps
But MA doesn't seem the greatest against dive
tough agate
And rogue definitely made some mistakes, especially KR second
fierce geode
its gonna be a different patch by apex s3 anyway
idt MA respected akm's soldier
@tough agate have you guys scrimmed IMT?
tough agate
Not recently, why?
fierce geode
wondering if this bootcamp they did helped them at all
they were looking pretty damn strong today
tough agate
We just played them today, and they seemed really good
tough agate
Yeah, the one map they caught
fierce geode
they only showed the last game right?
tough agate
We won Gib, they won KR and Lijiang
fierce geode
damn
tough agate
First held them on Gib, KR was held by them right before last cap, lijiang was 3-1 them
fierce geode
i caught most of the lijiang map
they looked really good
im sure you guys could beat them though. gotta shut that genji down lol
tough agate
Yeah, we just played it wrong, had a long talk about it after
fierce geode
do you guys get a rematch?
tough agate
Depends on how tomorrow goes ๐
forest raven
You guys will do great
forest raven
fierce geode
lol
fierce geode
i wish i could find a bracket that wasnt confusing as fuck or outdated for the OMM
fierce geode
yeah you guys will kill it
they cant ever touch the payload if they can't leave spawn ๐
tough agate
And that's the plan!
quiet bone
fierce geode
@quiet bone thanks!
quiet bone
np!
fierce geode
i realized it wasnt him lol
fucking relooked and they swapped cameras
wrong lucio
my b
didnt wanna confuse anyone reading it
clever wagon
Lol
fierce geode
now im gonna say they should have fucking team uniforms!!!
not even colored ones, let the teams run their uniforms
jovial eagle
i'd be very interested in knowing how much pro players are paid
jovial eagle
wonder if he'll talking about the seagull situation
digital pond
Nah he talked about the performance but he isn't taking it hard.
jovial eagle
he know s seagull and iddqd personally i believe?
back on luminosity and way back in tf2
digital pond
Yeah I know him and Gull have been teammates previously in Tf2.
forest raven
Yeah they are
balmy wolf
They're looking for an 8th
off tank to replace Coma
I'd say they'll have an org by S3
clever wagon
Well idk
tough agate
Only if more info about OWL comes out
Lots of orgs shying away atm cause nothing concrete
balmy wolf
There was a rumour going around a while ago about Echo Fox picking Selfless up
was there any truth to that
vestal mortar
๐
tough agate
I know we've been talking to people but OWL is still a question mark
So it's a weird situation
balmy wolf
Oooo
tough agate
Like, not a ? For us. We wanna play in it obv
That's why H2K dropped my team initially honestly
They didn't see a need to support a team with no results with this massive thing around the corner
vestal mortar
Hurry up Blizz, I wish they would at least provide more info to orgs/pros. So many people are in limbo, especially not knowing how many spots they're gonna start with.
tough agate
And that was the time where they thought they were gonna fucking draft teams from ranked ladder LOL
My coach was freaking out for me to play more ranked so the team could have the full roster in the draft
Yeah, I wish they would at least give orgs more details
Q3 is closing in
vestal mortar
tough agate
Exactly
tough agate
I got so confused because I saw this in #ow and then saw it appear here
You had me thinking I was going crazy
forest raven
Well I'm in both 
tough agate
Yeah I know it was you, I just didn't realize I saw it out of here initially. I'm tired ๐
vestal mortar
Hehe
vestal mortar
Wow
narrow wigeon
Now I know where all the leaks are coming from...
forest raven
vestal mortar
๐
tough agate
narrow wigeon
#nevertrustashieldman
vestal mortar
RIP Kresnik
forest raven
He's like Winz, sitting on the cart alone just tweeting away
tough agate
I started listening to music during scrims/matches when I started doing solo cart duty
I needed something to do
narrow wigeon
Downstairs
tough agate
Okay good he was blasting young thug and I could hear it from here
Was worried it was stupid loud for you
tough agate
This ahq sst game seems really one sided
forest raven
Yeah SunSister isn't good
Neither is FireBall
Probs the two weakest teams in the tournament
tough agate
Was this the last game of the day?
forest raven
There's still FireBall vs SunSister and Machi vs. FireBall
tough agate
I get to watch the two weakest teams in the tourney play
forest raven
forest raven
๐ฅ
tough agate
At least I get to watch good Rein gameplay when I watch this
As opposed to my scrims ๐ค
forest raven
Aren't your scrims basically uber rides
vestal mortar
tough agate
No, we have to play Koth too, that's when I get to hover over other heroes and dream of playing them
And hey I'd rather always assume I'm the underdog or the worse player.
As long as I still play confident, it helps anything bad feel less disappointing
My tf2 team started choking as soon as they started assuming they were gonna win going into any game
I wanna avoid that happening again
forest raven
Smart
vestal mortar
That sounds like a good mantra
gentle shuttle
wew
forest raven
And the playoffs are in the bubble race format too
vestal mortar
Jaysus
gentle shuttle
also that layeyes (sp?) mercy pic ๐
forest raven
๐
toxic yacht
tfw dhaK is here too
solid spear
Indeed
toxic yacht
The entirety of selfless is gonna be here by this week at the current rate lol
rapid oxide
In one year, jkap gonna join us too
supple nymph
clever wagon
yes
solid spear
I mean
They're used to like -1500 ping
And even then NRG could still lose lol
Well see
buoyant bough
Mendo
spring lintel
Lol the no rig hit on genji strikes again
They need to fix these bugs before OWL
Sometimes it's legit random
forest raven
FireBall winning games 
supple nymph
mint sky
this isn't esports
mint sky
a youtube comment isn't esports either 
supple nymph
im so ignorant I didn't realize non-korean asian tournaments in overwatch were big
forest raven
Well APAC 2016 had Rogue, Lunatic-Hai, NRG etc.
supple nymph
what is flaming thai bobby supposed to be?
forest raven
You mean FireBall?
supple nymph
yes
forest raven
They're the lone Thai team in the OPC
supple nymph
no lol I mean their logo
supple nymph
king of the hill must have been big in thailand
fierce geode
when are uber and jason kaplan casting OMM?
clever wagon
They usually switch per 1 day
balmy wolf
zealous girder
Thank you!
balmy wolf
Guys, I am 3,8k, where is the best place to find a team to participate on online tournaments?
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solid spear
Polo where do I go if I'm 
balmy wolf
solid spear
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