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#esports-discussion
toxic yacht
pine star
RIP this stream
pine star
And RIP my internet
toxic yacht
I want to change my pumpink intro
it's too memey now
match was pretty close, Dig can do it
๐
what is happening
ah, they doin it
I hope that this slow cap doesn't bite them in the ass r66 style
what is vallutaja?
kruise wasted that dash 
costed them the teamfight
I'm talking to myself :(
I'll already shut the fuck up
toxic yacht
vestal mortar
๐ข
mint sky
viral umbra
Great. Just missed the game, now it's another endless wait for the next one.
viral umbra
Yeah. It just bothers me that matches only take a fraction of the waiting times. lol
waxen root
:/
forest raven
Gonna listen to misfits be afraid of laser kittenz while I go to sleep 
viral umbra
@waxen root Yep, ://
forest raven
You'll get em in the lower bracket @waxen root
toxic yacht
it's LK
vestal mortar
๐ข โค
toxic yacht
pretty sure that they'll get them
viral umbra
Hope so
waxen root
yea
i went in a shit position
because wat went in the corner
and was low
so i had to move
was my bad tho
i shouldve just waited for him to move and not risk being in the open
viral umbra
Meh, you can't always make the right decisions.
mint sky
god gamers can
vestal mortar
Like you eh Derek? 
viral umbra
I'd like to see a VOD of that. :>
Looks like Misfits are going to have a field day, at least when it comes to quota.
viral umbra
Isn't Misfits EU?
balmy wolf
I was asleep just now but it looks like Dignitas didn't pose an issue thankfully
and yeah EU, REU
My team <3
viral umbra
See, said so. Takes ages. But thanks for the heads up.
viral umbra
Yeah, this is so weird. Already starting at 40%
toxic yacht
gosu liveticker + the fucking twitch channel starting times lied to me
viral umbra
No, I think they were having issues or something.
toxic yacht
well, gosu liveticker didn't lie
viral umbra
This was a really weird start.
viral umbra
Oh, really? Nah, I only check on Gosu.
toxic yacht
turns out it started earlier and mannetens disconnected
gosu never lies
now I'll trust it forever
oh yeah, how I miss trans cancelling out grav
waxen root
we played vs eunited already
viral umbra
eUnited is in 1hr20mins
balmy wolf
Oh right derp
waxen root
they're playing the winner of laser kittenz vs misfits after
toxic yacht
next match is loser bracket maybe
viral umbra
The one VS Dignitas is already over
toxic yacht
so eU is tomorrow
waxen root
loser bracket is tomorrow
waxen root
eu vs lk/misfits is after this game
viral umbra
Yeah, after this one in about an hour
toxic yacht
greyy on sombra...?
waxen root
to get back to point
toxic yacht
I hope that he was just stalling
ah, I was too busy looking at discord
I should pay more attention to the game
viral umbra
Games are so short, you better focus on them lol
viral umbra
You've got enough waittime as is, not worth it missing the matches lol
waxen root
fight was lost
viral umbra
"zoning ult"
balmy wolf
I see nothing has changed since I was away
waxen root
no matter how many kills he gets
balmy wolf
Winghaven always dying first lol
toxic yacht
yee
waxen root
but chat still doesnt understand it 
viral umbra
Chat is full of crap, everybody knows better.
toxic yacht
twitch chat always laughs when someone resets
toxic yacht
kyb on genji again :)
balmy wolf
Resetting has been a thing for months and months so how do they not understand??
viral umbra
Because they lack basic understanding of the game.
waxen root
because they're literally bronze
viral umbra
Team > No team
toxic yacht
I like to think that they just find people falling off the map amusing
viral umbra
Also most people don't understand that there's always some kind of pressure involved in tournaments. That doesn't exactly help. But everybody still knows bettert.
waxen root
i mean
little mistakes
decide games
like the thing i said earlier about our kr 1st defense
its a tiny decision and we insta lose a point because of it
viral umbra
Yeah. And you're supposed to decide in a matter of seconds. Can't blame you.
waxen root
but people wont realize because in their bronze games people dont punish u for shit
toxic yacht
I'd probably also have done that tbh
but yee
at that level
even a slight misplay will fuck you
waxen root
it was a splitsecond decision, it ended up being the wrong one unfortunately
next time ill know better
i couldve just thrown the nade and waited for him to walk out
viral umbra
I mean, you lost, sure, but it's fine. Don't beat yourself up over it.
waxen root
nah i dont
honestly
we have been a meme before owpit for months
because no tournaments
balmy wolf
Kyb...
viral umbra
We live and learn, I guess. As long as you're aware of the mistakes you make, you can always get better.
waxen root
so practice was a meme
because its hard to really focus on improving and giving it your best everyday when theres nothing to practice for
we've improved so much the last 2weeks tho
viral umbra
Yeah, I can see that.
balmy wolf
The EU situation sucks unfortunately
viral umbra
And you still got time to go until the OWL.
vestal mortar
We got this! \o/
balmy wolf
Do the pros have more info on the OWL or the same as anyone?
toxic yacht
or they fucked up
vestal mortar
Aww
viral umbra
But when that happens, everyone else will know too. That stuff travels quickly.
toxic yacht
they decided to announce something that will go into effect in a year but didn't give out any info about it
rapid oxide
Laser Kittenz, more like Laser Mittenz
waxen root
but it was just as much rumors as in the article
toxic yacht
like, they could have said that nothing of value is gonna happen for over half a year
maybe there could have been more EU majors in that time
:/
viral umbra
I think they were just not prepared for the amount of work that would come out of the OWL.
I still appreciate Blizz doing it, and building that eSports Arena.
waxen root
no
viral umbra
Oh rly
toxic yacht
ok
balmy wolf
What never happened? >w>
viral umbra
Nothing.
viral umbra
I hope so. We need this. eSports needs it.
waxen root
and it definitely hurt the eu scene so far
mint sky
waxen root
i mean
not rly.
it might end up being huge for esports
its gonna be really good for the people involved
vestal mortar
๐
waxen root
but everyone else thats currently in the scene that will not end up in the league will get next level cucked
viral umbra
That's true. Although we will always have more tournaments outside of the OWL, right?
balmy wolf
It seems that way
toxic yacht
I'm assuming that OWL is the reason why FaZe is still a thing?
the team seems to hate each other
and they're honestly shit rn
toxic yacht
honestly, no one knows how blizz will handle 3rd party tournaments post OWL iirc
rapid oxide
Also
waxen root
bunzlee
solid spear
Greyy Sombra ๐ฎ
waxen root
i doubt any significant tournament organizer will spend money mid owl season for a tourmament
its not about blizzard handling it
theres just literally no reason for TOs to spend money
viral umbra
That's hard to say. Although I can see why.
waxen root
unless its offseason and they can get the OWL teams involved in their tourneys
esl,mlg etc. will probably host tournaments during offseason
with the owl teams
but never midseason
balmy wolf
so we'll see the same players all season then?
or maybe they can freely change rosters
I hope
viral umbra
Yeah, it's a hard call. Unless they mess up the OWL. But there's so much money involved.
balmy wolf
but how will they scout? Just from the ladder? If there aren't any tourneys
viral umbra
I'm assuming we'll have lower tier tournaments just for that reason.
rapid oxide
Challenger
waxen root
like go4ow and shit
viral umbra
Yeah.
waxen root
i dont think anything challenger-like is planned yet
toxic yacht
:/
rapid oxide
For the moment
waxen root
i doubt they're gonna do one for the first season
toxic yacht
so EU can fuck off until Blizz rolls the league out here
rapid oxide
Not soon anyway
toxic yacht
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waxen root
very very unlikely
viral umbra
I wish they paid more attention to EU.
rapid oxide
:p
waxen root
pretty much sojum
balmy wolf
We won't see teams like Selfless and Hammers explode in the top tier anymore then?
viral umbra
Yep.
waxen root
orgs will drop their teams
rapid oxide
If SK of G2 have money, they could buy this kind of teams
waxen root
or at least lower the tournament conditions significantly
rapid oxide
Echo fox will most likely buy selfless
waxen root
dont expect g2 to buy into owl
viral umbra
OWL is, as I understand it, supposed to be like a soccer league. You don't just go in or out. They're supposed to build a fanbase, a brand and a stable roster.
waxen root
thing were said that make me think its very unlikely oce will get involved anytime soon ๐
balmy wolf
*football tbh
waxen root
in owl, you buy a slot, and youre in.
rapid oxide
Could be shit
waxen root
no matter how bad ur team does during a season
balmy wolf
Football has many many different levels
viral umbra
Well, yeah.
rapid oxide
But for investors is better
toxic yacht
tfw a european refers to football as soccer
waxen root
well that depends on how the roster rules look like from blizzard vace
viral umbra
I was trying to say that the league is supposed to be "stable", without dropouts and such.
waxen root
yea
balmy wolf
That's boring right?
waxen root
not necessarily
rapid oxide
American football isn't boring
viral umbra
Nah, I mean, it's just like most sports. They want you to actually stick with a team, make it a part of your interests.
balmy wolf
Part of the fun is seeing the teams rise and fall
waxen root
it can be super good
viral umbra
That's why they're also assigning every team to a city.
waxen root
say if a team ends last in season 1
they make a couple roster changes
and really step up next season
thats a good story right
rapid oxide
That's how American football work
balmy wolf
I get it but meh
viral umbra
eSports has way too many teams disbanding, reforming, changing names and such. I think they're trying to diminish that.
rapid oxide
Most of the time suberbowl have different finalost
balmy wolf
eSports and regular sports are incomparable anyway
rapid oxide
The strongest is toned down
The weaker get boosted
But idk if this will work on ow too
waxen root
honestly
viral umbra
Yeah, will always be different, but they're at least trying to "streamline" it.
waxen root
u cant rly compare roster stability and such to sports
balmy wolf
^
waxen root
this might sound wierd but the synergy in esports is way more important
viral umbra
Sure is, when you only got 6 ppl.
waxen root
i mean
just the fact that
you literally communicate all game
in sports thats not as easy
rapid oxide
Well.... There's sinergy in every sport tho
viral umbra
But it's not good for business when you have teams coming up, disbanding, reforming and such.
toxic yacht
it's why you often get superteams
waxen root
but not to the level it is in esports
waxen root
^
rapid oxide
And im pretty sure a lot too
waxen root
i mean synergy has 2 sides to the table
6people being in voice 24/7 can also get really difficult
viral umbra
I'm just saying. Blizzard is in it for the money. We can expect some kind of restrictions and rulesets that won't be very well received by the fans and players. But it's business.
waxen root
personalities clashing etc
balmy wolf
Does that mean coaches are less important in eSports?
waxen root
no
coaches serve a different purpose
theres basically 2 types of coaches
in esports
balmy wolf
Because in regular sports the coach is 'solely' responsible for the team's results
waxen root
one is basically the team therapist who helps with some ingame stuff, communication, personalities, etc
the other is who has a deep understanding of the game and actually coaches ingame stuff
viral umbra
Makes sense.
balmy wolf
Do the top teams have both or just one?
waxen root
most have one at this point in ow
in league they usually have an analyst and coach
they have multiple coaching staff
to fill the different roles
viral umbra
Thinking about it, there's too many salaries depending on 6 players lol
waxen root
when owl gets successful and stable you'll probably see larger coaching staff just like in league/dota
balmy wolf
That'd mean some fan favorites might not get playtime but I guess it's better than not being in the league at all
viral umbra
Don't you think top players are going to be on the main roster anyway?
balmy wolf
Who knows
toxic yacht
LH had a 8 man roster
waxen root
depending on rules things like that will exist or not.
toxic yacht
runaway has one too
solid spear
hell or even 8 like Runaway
solid spear
Im interested to see how many League spots there are though cuz Im just wondering how lifes gonna be for a team that doesnt get in
balmy wolf
No but I mean their stand ins
toxic yacht
but they're 100% getting a spot
waxen root
how do u know sojum
viral umbra
We need to wait and see until the first contracts show up.
waxen root
the powerpoint we saw was probably sorta representative of spot distribution
so there'll be limited eu slots
viral umbra
"limited"... Like 3.
toxic yacht
except they somehow massively fuck up and get kicked, I doubt that they wouldn't get on. Also, I'd assume that misfits and c9 will get spots
balmy wolf
Shadder is super popular and he's amazing at Genji but if he's not in the meta they might be better off with another DPS
is what I mean
solid spear
if its only 16 spots theres gonna be some good teams without spots
toxic yacht
shadder can play other characters though, although his pool isn't super big
balmy wolf
and then we'll never be able to see him play in tourneys
toxic yacht
shadowburn also makes himself work
waxen root
what @solid spear said
balmy wolf
It was just an example
waxen root
i'd expect all the big orgs to get slots
but u gotta realize
some people
can just come and buy a slot
i know deadmau5 was talked to
to buy in
he has no team
viral umbra
lol
waxen root
which would mean one top team doesnt get in
toxic yacht
I really hope that it's not just 16 spots
waxen root
it depends how blizzard decides who gets in
balmy wolf
Probably to start off
viral umbra
Money.
waxen root
but yea, either way, some good teams wont go in
well bunzlee its probably a mix
like they'd probably prefer an established brand to buy in over some rich guy buying a slot
viral umbra
Yeah, ofc.
I'm sure we'll have some interesting surprises. I just hope they make it until fall, because that's when it was supposed to start, right?=
viral umbra
Yeah, specially for not really having any infos at all.
toxic yacht
tfw no one is watching and mentioning that LK is doing super well vs misfits
toxic yacht
on lijiang at least
viral umbra
LK had some nice plays.
vestal mortar
I was gonna mention something about the game but I didn't want to interrupt your conversation >_>
toxic yacht
yeah, lul
viral umbra
Yeah, I was a little starstruck talking to Veineless.
vestal mortar
๐ _ ๐
toxic yacht
tfw all of your discussions with tviq devolve into kebab talk
solid spear
rip
balmy wolf
Did you talk to Tviq???
toxic yacht
he's on this server + his server
solid spear
he came here
toxic yacht
at least you can talk about something that isn't kebab with veine
balmy wolf
waaa
solid spear
and Sojum came
toxic yacht
^
balmy wolf
looool
vestal mortar
balmy wolf
Is this the new Lucio? Yeah right?
toxic yacht
nah
balmy wolf
wow
viral umbra
New Lucio is going to make my life as Lucio Main hard. lol
balmy wolf
I don't know anything about OW anymore lol
You'll be able to play the new healer soon >w>
solid spear
tmw Im the only one hoping new Lucio never comes
toxic yacht
tfw laser kittenz is getting revenge for getting publicly joked about by tviq
viral umbra
Nah, I like my Lucio how he is right now. I'm dreading that aura decrease.
vestal mortar
"Too scared to scrim us"
balmy wolf
This has been a crushing so far
balmy wolf
Sojum when will you become a mod?
toxic yacht
never
solid spear
never
viral umbra
lol
vestal mortar
Awwww
solid spear
lul
viral umbra
At least give some props to Greyy for hitting those darts right when they need him to
vestal mortar
Yeah those were some sweet sleeps
toxic yacht
I find it interesting how they always go for deadeye + grav combo
lmfao, check your corners
:reimufacepalm:
the fuck are my emotes at
๐ข
balmy wolf
Misfits got it together :c
toxic yacht
feelsbad for LK
reminds me of all games vs Rogue
"Oh yeah, they almost completed. Maybe they can hold Rogue"
viral umbra
Twitch chat, tho. "Why did they not push the last few meters?" lmao
toxic yacht
Rogue proceeds to steamroll on attack with 4 minutes remaining
are they going for the double sniper comp?
:(
and same comp
viral umbra
balmy wolf
ugh no
toxic yacht
Nevix is missing a ton of shots that tviq wouldn't
tbh
is tviq genji too important or what?
viral umbra
I don't understand that grav that just came up.
balmy wolf
gg
toxic yacht
that was dominant once they capped
toxic yacht
next match is gonna be hype af
@waxen root you mind if I copy-paste what you said to this guy?
gentle shuttle
whats the score boyos
waxen root
sure
toxic yacht
LK was pretty impressive, actually
waxen root
do it
gentle shuttle
o noes
balmy wolf
Is this the final stage of PIT?
gentle shuttle
armpit
toxic yacht
@balmy wolf no, these are quarterfinals I think
semis should be the winnners of these groups
solid spear
feelsbad
toxic yacht
balmy wolf
coL is sabotaging the tourney even when they're already knocked out
toxic yacht
kek'd
viral umbra
EU Servers.
toxic yacht
well, time to eat food
balmy wolf
I don't even remember him
solid spear
Idkif hes in general or something I dont go there
gentle shuttle
A Slayer won a tourney, he'll be so happy
gentle shuttle
aww yisssss
silk linden
Dva has nothing to do with the event
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
Mercy is also cute
balmy wolf
The lore related sprays are nice
Genji is the hottest
Unfortunately I suck at both Genji and McCree...
vestal mortar
gentle shuttle
mercy best girl
viral umbra
New horde mode then huh
digital pond
Yeh
Looks like a Horde payload pathed mode
Probably a boss at the end.
New MErcy skin looks nice doe.
gentle shuttle
i was hoping junkenstein was gonna be horde payload too
then it ended right at the front of the castle and i was like "huh"
viral umbra
Is that a new Orisa skin at the end of the trailer?
viral umbra
It's around 1:52, closing up the trailer
digital pond
That's mccree skin is so sexy
viral umbra
McCree looks a little bland to me. I dig Widow tho.
viral umbra
Genji is trying way too hard.
digital pond
Meh I like it
vestal mortar
Does the OMM allow skins?
digital pond
It fits the entire timeline.
viral umbra
I'm totally going for that Rein skin tho.
vestal mortar
Ahhhhh I want it so bad so I can see everyone using the new skins
digital pond
So tournament have to chat with Blizz about it to allow them. Pretty much APEX said they would try
balmy wolf
I need the skins back
How does Blizzard think their graphic designers must feel when the pros aren't even allowed to use their skins they worked so hard on?
silk linden
they should have worked harder on them
stuff like Nutcracker Zen have broken hitboxes
viral umbra
I was just going to assume that, yeah. I thought they just had different hitboxes, making it pretty unfair.
I've always wondered if frog Lucio's hitbox was bigger than without the helmet.
silk linden
it's not that it's bigger, it's that it's deceiving
viral umbra
Makes sense.
balmy wolf
I love EU and all but if the match doesn't start very soon I'm just gonna leave
What a disappointment
viral umbra
Yeah, they really need to get their stuff together.
balmy wolf
5 more minutes
vestal mortar
Yeah something about that intro gets me a bit emotional
rapid oxide
Probably because i feel shit because i cheer for lunatic hai
vestal mortar
I cheer for Lunatic Hai too ๐ญ
rapid oxide
Didn't know runner is running out of money, team will eventually split etc...
balmy wolf
Fuck this
vestal mortar
They should sell more jumpers and make so much money heh heh heh
toxic yacht
lmao pit is still delaying
I just ate food
and washed dishes
still not on
I'll go take a shit now
and if it still isn't there
I'll shower
and then we will see
rapid oxide
Because not a lan
solid spear
watched a hentai, played p5 and still not on rip
maybe Ill catch a vod later at this point cant wait forever
rapid oxide
But she need smth more, her gun is garbage
vestal mortar
It's postponed until tomorrow ๐ข
gentle shuttle
sedface
vestal mortar
Well at least your shower didn't get postponed
vestal mortar
Sleep until tomorrow
gentle shuttle
:'C
rapid oxide
Watching Sombra on FlashWolved vs Ahq
tough agate
I really hope this doesn't push the Pit into the Monthly Melee
rapid oxide
Hahahaha
tough agate
It's already cutting into the MM Qualifiers
rapid oxide
Pretty sure owl will be on dedicate realm if matches is online
Would be fucking stupid otherwise
I have faith in blizzard, but not 100%
tough agate
If OGN can have their own server, I'm sure OWL will have everything it needs
limber pine
Blizzard Korea always does things just a bit different than stateside Blizzard.
digital pond
Well I feel like if they're able to be given the tool to do such West side Blizz should be capable to do the same.
Would prevent a lot of issues
ZI just assume they're super focused on OWL aside but eh.
gentle shuttle
mmm
balmy wolf
I sleep just fine, its just like 4pm is actually like 4am
Like say some normal person wakes up at 8am, and goes to bed at 12am
My sleeping pattern is just shifted backward
vestal mortar
RIP Polo
balmy wolf
vestal mortar
I am going to have a backwards sleep pattern after OMM this weekend
balmy wolf
I guess it has been kind of good
Considering I catch all the NA tournaments like Carbon and the AMMs
vestal mortar
Yeah I would probably stay up all night and live on NA time for esports if Uni/work didn't mean I have to have a regular person life.
I will just move to Canada and then I can watch almost everything. ๐
solid spear
I mean Im in NA and Im still on like 4 hours of sleep a day ._.
rapid oxide
Was EU friendly
APEX Challenger League Tonight 1am EST, 10pm PST
Matches are:
Flash Lux vs. Mighty AOD
Conbox Spirit vs. MVP Space
Afreeca Red vs. X6 Gaming
MVP Infinity vs. Rhinos Gaming Wings
rapid oxide
Well... Pit is down... So it's the best thing to watch anyway ๐คท
gentle shuttle
armpit
past oar
is the song stuttering on stream?
digital pond
Rip
pine star
Tfw CLG beat LGL 
pine star
Train just gave Rogue the baguette
past oar
@DMcSullivan sup
solid spear
LGE choking rip
solid spear
I mean you can say you expect them to choke I guess
But doesn't make it any less of one
balmy wolf
Watch it go 100-84
solid spear
Good series
copper glen
solid spear
Dadfran rank 1 
supple nymph
rip push
poor lg loyal
@balmy wolf https://puu.sh/vgjOf/2797203a9e.png
predict?
can both LG teams lose
balmy wolf
lol
supple nymph
like a draw where noone gets any points
supple nymph
balmy wolf
tyty
supple nymph
this is a very forgiving tournament
i think every match i saw lg loyal in they lost 0-2
balmy wolf
ah..im just happy about Lunatic Hai right now
supple nymph
like 3-4
supple nymph
balmy wolf
ah
supple nymph
they are doing kinda bad
supple nymph
i guess
balmy wolf
i guess i only fan girl over a few teams in Korea and EU
maiden fox
is it gonna be an easy win for Mighty AOD against Flash Lux? game starts in an hour
forest raven
https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal APEX Challengers is Live
balmy wolf
solid spear
Ah
rapid oxide
Well... Rip mendo and ryb
forest raven
Not dropped, moved to reserve roster. They have an 8 man team now
rapid oxide
I know
But if the team is performing better than the old c9, do you think they will do charity and keep them? I don't think so
forest raven
Ryb is a better main tank than Gods lol
forest raven
Ryb also outplayed Panker and carried Misfits on his back when he was on the squad. He's an amazing Rein
balmy wolf
I think they just gonna use selly and xepher till ryb and mendo get visas
Chances are they're going to have a full Korean team and an na team for OWL/apex
rapid oxide
I think sister team won't happen for owl imo
spring lintel
Any matches soon guuuys?
rapid oxide
We'll see btw... Moving to reserve looks like an elegant way to cut of ppl
If they wanted mendo and ryb
They would announce the new players as sub until mendo and ryb get visa
But they did the opposite
solid spear
Also Toy was watching you Sunday you did good :3
balmy wolf
Thanks man
rapid oxide
Rumors sais talespin will join c9 ๐คท
solid spear
I mean those rumors are based on grouping together in ranked if I'm not mistaken?
Nothing concrete
solid spear
Well we'll see what happens with Mendu and Rybu
rapid oxide
The casters from S3 APEX Challenger just confirmed live on stream that there will only be 2 foreign teams invited.
forest raven
I wonder who
The Pit ends on the 14th
If Selfless or Rogue or Misfits are going to Season 3 they wouldn't have much time to settle in 
solid spear
2 of those teams are at Rivalcade as well
Hell Envyus too
I do think if Envyus wants to go again they'll probably reinvite them
A potential team is actually Eunited
forest raven
They are bootcamping in Korea after The Pit so that's very possible
solid spear
Yeah
rapid oxide
Btw i think Taimou said they will refuse an AOEX invite this time
I don't remember the reason tho
solid spear
I mean makes sense they've been their for months for multiple seasons
Makes sense they'd wanna just be home for a bit
rapid oxide
also meta is still dive, they dont have a genji/tracer player
that will end in another lost probably
balmy wolf
season 3 starts in only 17days
zzzzz
@balmy wolf Apparently DSPStanky was playing on a team and beat you in some tournament?
What team was that?
solid spear
I mean we'll see what happens with Envyus
Meta might be shifting away from dive anyway
balmy wolf
We played CC (dsps team) yesterday in the athena cup for 3rd place, lost 2-1, we played them today in quarter finals of AGWeekly and beat them 2-0 @balmy wolf
I don't think we'll lose to them again to be completely honest
Is it just called CC?
chicken something
chicken connoisseurs
Ah
Slayergramps is on it too 
we had never played them before so we kinda played bad going into it blindly, beat them 2-0 today and it was much cleaner
Did he play overaggressive or did he play like every other lucio
over aggressive
not so much going for crazy boops, just being in a position to be dove or hooked w/e
just isolates himself sometimes where a tracer can kill him or roadhog can hook him
toxic yacht
Chicken connoisseurs is the stanky team, right?
rapid oxide
Sombra by Conbox Spirit on 2CP
forest raven
Conbox has three new players?
forest raven
Thanks Vace
rapid oxide
Codey #1 Sombra
i dont know how a sombra on 2nd point defense on hanamura worked that well
and he had ulti like every 30 seconds
or less
balmy wolf
good coordination
using mobile characters to abuse hacked healthpacks for hp instead of getting an ana
gives more utility than a nano boost tbh
and 2 defensive ults really instead of 1
rapid oxide
idk why people still stick with torb
solid spear
Sombras best map in Temple D
rapid oxide
he like have 0% rateo of win
solid spear
So not surprising
rapid oxide
was on hanamura
rapid oxide
yet no one win with torb
solid spear
People have won with Torb
rapid oxide
talking about pro plays
balmy wolf
if you go into second point with a molten core a lot of teams will keep torb cause you can snowball him
just depends tho
I've always wondered, can a hacked turret be ulted?
spring lintel
Lol why arent these teams playing a hog?
rapid oxide
You are fake news @solid spear
rapid oxide
it upgrade hacked but dont shoot iirc
spring lintel
Torb is pretty good against squashies
balmy wolf
Hack it before a push so torb's ult is effectively usless
solid spear
But yeah not saying you have to run Torb there or he's godlike there but he definitely has merits and teams have won with him
rapid oxide
im not sure polo tho
test is needed
but i think that happened to me once, cant exactly remember
maybe i hacked the turret 0,1 sec after molten core
pearl juniper
Have you heard of the legend, meimain
balmy wolf
solid spear
HehHeh
rapid oxide
Legend27
pearl juniper
Just browsing the channels
Na spelling
I've been waiting to use this one
WhoRu who?
pseudo sail
Wow! C9 with the changes! Who saw that coming? ^^
balmy wolf
what they changed about c9?
forest raven
Ryb and Mendo benched, Selly and xepheR join the roster as dps and flex, respectively, and Gods is moved to main tank @balmy wolf
balmy wolf
bruuhhh i love ryb and mendo tho. feelsbad
forest raven
Yeah, same. But Selly and xepheR are supposed to be absolutely ridiculous players
forest raven
They're both Korean players. Selly from Rhinos Gaming Wings and xepheR from OPPA.Danawa
balmy wolf
I feel like they wont drop such a good flex player like Mendo though
Ryb I have no doubts about staying on the team
But even with how good Mendo is, they have Surefour who is a better flex and then if Xepher and Selly show up they wont really need him anymore
isnt mendo trying to get his visa again?
since hes stuck in sweden atm
Yes
Both he and Ryb are having visa problems
feelsbad
clever wagon
but what
balmy wolf
?
clever wagon
He said stepping down from active roster
But that means he still in contract right
So C9 beat TSM to the punch in adopting Koreans
clever wagon
I'd feel bad if he's out from C9 for real
But this doesnt mean they'll rotate like an active 8 man roster either since he's "inactive"
balmy wolf
Well once he's back in the US they could either drop him and keep ryb
and have a 2nd starting roster with him
pearl juniper
I've never once seen na ow lmfao
balmy wolf
or keep him and have a 2nd starting roster with both
or kick both and have one 6 man roster
vestal mortar
Hmm yeah it's hard to know what will happen ๐ฆ
balmy wolf
we must keep ryb
pearl juniper
Don't necessarily have one
balmy wolf
NA overwatch is pretty lit fam
solid spear
Well if c9 decides Mendo isn't part of their future you can be sure other teams will be interested in someone with his talent
gentle shuttle
holy shit i just saw the C9 thing
clever wagon
But the meme boys in blue would be no more
balmy wolf
"Hey gods, are you using your pockets?"
gentle shuttle
you think this will become a trend
balmy wolf
gentle shuttle
just like how importing EU players has become a trend?
gentle shuttle
lang barrier seems to be the biggest issue
clever wagon
Come OWL, probably
gentle shuttle
yea
solid spear
The amount of Koreans who can speak language on a level where communication wouldn't be an issue is less than that of Europeans obviously
So it's not really comparable
solid spear
I mean they definitely have talent so if possible if the player can speak English well it'll definitely be something that a few teams will explore
gentle shuttle
wonder if it was the same case for Ryb
rapid oxide
TLDR: Runner didn't know Runaway was loved so much oversea. He's thinking to get donations since peoplee want to donate
true tide
I want to donate! I want those sweet sweet pink jumpers too.
balmy wolf
Rogue 
rapid oxide
but how alicus know?... ๐ฑ bootcamping in korea soon... eunited too... 
vestal mortar
๐ค
rapid oxide
saw you typing rob ๐
toxic yacht
Inb4 LGE got invited
true tide
Oh no, Reinforce said they wanted to go so bad.
Challengers is being casted in English, yay!
clever wagon
@rapid oxide he's still thinking about it
rapid oxide
Its not in this video but important news in his stream yesterday:
-
Coma is leaving the team so they are looking for an eighth member
-
Rest of the members are staying in the team including Runner for season 3
-
He is not sure about crowd funding yet but he might sell sweaters instead and use that profit for his team. But nothing decided yet
balmy wolf
I had no idea they had someone called Coma on their team lol
little light
!rank
vestal mortar
Yaaas more jumpers
clever wagon
Mfw no credit card
I'd totally wear that to classes all day everyday if I could get one
vestal mortar
rip you
clever wagon
Probably get 2 so I can still wear one while having the other washed
vestal mortar
Our weather is so mild I could wear it all year ๐
clever wagon
Meh, I'm from a tropical country
A little heat is nothing compared to the hot shit that the jumper will bring me
solid spear
Well I'm just from America ๐
teal hearth
Would realistically EUnited be invited for S3
balmy wolf
True enough lol @vestal mortar
Hottest its going to be this week is 13C
I want one of those jumpers so bad
vestal mortar
I already get a load of compliments on my Overwatch jacket in public, I can only imagine how cool I would be with a runaway jumper ๐
solid spear
It's like 27C all week D:
vestal mortar
Such a perfect shade of pink
balmy wolf
I love their logo too
balmy wolf
I'll be sad when they get bought and lose the name and logo 
vestal mortar
๐ญ
pine star
That'd just make them all the more valuable
clever wagon
RunAway jumper just makes "hot shit" crank up to 11
rapid oxide
Or... Keep the team name but put the sponsor on the jumper
What i don't understand tho, it's because they refused some sponsors
balmy wolf
When an org picks them up they wont change team name or logo
They will be whatever they're called and use whatever logo they have
toxic yacht
coma was in last season
in the active roster
coma, shine, quad, runner, kaiser and haksal
rapid oxide
They are running out of money "we are looking for an 8th member" 
pine star
Wait, wtf happened to C9 roster? ._____.
balmy wolf
I never said they were running out of money?
rapid oxide
Not you, runner
pine star
Mendo and Ryb benched and Korean imports? The fuck
forest raven
Mendo requested to step down
rapid oxide
Poor results? Poor team performance?
forest raven
He didn't say
rapid oxide
Exactly, no one knows
pine star
Feels bad
forest raven
He's made it a point to say there is no bad blood involved
rapid oxide
kek
Not even talespin did
Kinda
Not even 2easy with FaZs
Its obvious they wouldn't say it
forest raven
Well I'm inclined to believe mendo
pine star
balmy wolf
Talespin most likely left Envy because of the way Taimou acted towards him
rapid oxide
Well... Wasn't him get kicked/had episodes of toxicity between players in his team?
forest raven
You mean Mendo or talespin
rapid oxide
Mendo
forest raven
There's been zero talk of Mendo being toxic in c9
vestal mortar
^
forest raven
Not even rumours
rapid oxide
Previously yes
vestal mortar
Yeah they all seemed to really get along in c9
pine star
Mendo seems like the chillest weeb in pro OW
rapid oxide
Welll... You don't know how childish a kid turns when he join a good team
balmy wolf
It seems not at all
rapid oxide
I talk for experience
pine star
He even plays Lucio and Rein on ladder lol
vestal mortar
Yeah I think C9 was really good for him and his attitude really appears to have changed
rapid oxide
Now prob grow up