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Yeah, if they had performed better in groups they wouldn't be up against Rogue
yep
Liquid vs. Rise is gonna be the best match of the quarters imo
what time is it EST?
Begins in 13h 30min
So you can do the math from that
I am watching the APEX finals now, this singing contest is amazing lmao. I hope the OWL has this kind of production quality.

I cant wait for Liquid vs Rise
Gonna be the closest of the quarters
I was just on r/livestreamfail and saw a post about some small streamer getting hosted by ster and then instantly unhosted for saying the n word @forest raven
And turns out it was harrybutcher
it was just a joke though, ster didnt actually care he said it
he was going to host someone else but they went offline so he just did that instead
Oh lol
Esca's singing ๐

and is apparently really fucking toxic
Harry is?
yeah
rip
going into a scrim lobby against CLG and asking them if he can stream the match. Already a big nono, shouldn't even be asked. Of course they say no. So he responds by telling them to fuck off, that their coach is a bitch, that a player named cuddles has the dumbest name he's ever heard, a bunch more, ALL BEFORE THE MATCH STARTS. Then the stream goes off and comes back on in minutes because he started spamming during the game cursing the other team and being a complete asshole for literally no reason.
Quote from the reddit comment
This was a month ago so I'm guessing $?
Thats too bad cause he was a good rein
Mhm :/
Yeah
I only heard about the N word
Esports in India -
Everyone crying at the awards ceremony for APEX makes me cry too ๐ญ
I didn't wanna watch it tbh
Why's that
I kinda just turned it off after the game
Oh, the ceremony
i just stayed for mvps
When Esca spoke about reading all the mean comments, my heart broke. :C
Esca definitely showed up on Dorado and Eich
Not enough "god" plays to balance out the crap
But throughout groups and playoffs he was very inconsistent
Oh yeah, I agree but I feel like a lot of the hate was ott, people saying mean crap online doesn't make somebody play better.
In fact I feel like too much hate will get ingrained into somebody and they can start believing it themselves. For me, a lot of what was said was just too much.
So criticism like "Esca keeps getting out of position and is picked off at the beginning of every fight, he needs to work on that if LH want to win" is perfectly fine in my book. But stuff like "Esca is the worst and they should kick him off the team" upsets me.
My favourite was "put esca on lucio"

everyone was laughing in vc when someone in chat said that lol
That's a good one
I really love RunAway and LH, such good teams for the finals. I want to keep following both of them. Too many great players and wonderful fun personalities! :' )
Runner bess Lucio ๐ท
I want some of those korean fangirl signs too for my room
his poor positioning seems pretty consistent, the way i hear it
every team needs a personality like his on it i think
Runner is probably like not exactly tier 1 Lucio like Tobi is but he's there for the shotcalling and mood making
You say EscA is bad, whatever. At least Hanamura onwards he pulled himself together, unlike ArHaN
ArHaN fell from grace and was simply falling further as the tournament goes
is it me or is Taimou a bit of a boring player
like u see it at the end of the game
"oh wow Taimou has 32 kills"
but u can never remember them.
can u remember a single Taimou kill ?
but try AKM...u can see the flick
i remember a AKM flick.
I'm just memeing
You are kinda right tho because i dont remember any kills except that ๐
but aKm is flat out more versatile
Man, comp ow was spammed of iddqd kills
lmao
so much spam that even twoeasy complained
and tbh I agree with him
I mean, nice mechanical skill from iddqd
but that's kinda avarage for a pro rekking pubs
subreddit elitists 
Skyline shitting on Ryu ๐ข
wut
He did the first map analysis
ah, and he was critisizing ryu because he died for once?
And he commented on sleepdart
"ana god yee bla bla but that sleep dart was easy"
Well, technically yes, because haksal was kinda go straight into him or fall without moving
Well... He didn't considered that was at a final in a lan
But ryu is a god for other reasons
I remember on 66 that Zunba was alive thanks to ryu
And good shield management
But mostly for his healing
And when magically he kills someone while getting gangbanged but somehow he doesn't die
hey anyone got a link for the twitch channel what has been streaming the american tourtaments with like selfless and that in it. think the grand prizewas like 15k aswell. cant remember much about it only watched one game but want to watch more
RJH remains the most elusive Ana, much like a cornered rat
The link is in the channel description and the pins
In the channel desc and pins
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...are you really gonna ask for predictions?
Surprised so few people think RN can beat Liquid
Rise Nation and CLG final for sure
No you should cry
It was painful watching FaZe vs Tempo
fucking sdb on winston
like fuck that
You're playing on Ilios and never genji
I've seen Taimou do some work on Genji, but he definitely wouldn't be able to match pro Genji's like Haksal and Arhan.
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I guess he just can't play through ping
according to twoeasy sdb doesn't care about ping
Arhan lul
so much green
he actually became angry whenever someone pointed it out
FaZe is dumb and trying to lose
only explanation I can think of
they always lose when he's not on genji or pharah
Hows mikeya doing?
He's there
He used to be tier 1 tf soldier
Guess its clockwork v2
pretty much what polo said, lul
pool*
Why won't Silk just go pro u_u
*poop
Any eng. streams for the premier series spring preseason?
Tracer's role is flank the flanker??? 
Esca ๐
Rip
LOL
welp
Dummy confirmed toxic
He has been confirmed toxic for a while now
Dummy confirmed even more toxic
Oh yeah it's just a joke, we all call eachother toxic in his stream chat and discord
Maybe you're the toxic one Tara
i just woke up im dumb

pit lookin like a slideshow
Most people seem to believe I am the lone non-toxic person around, but perhaps Dummy's toxicity has caught on. ๐ค
Maybe YOU made him toxic 
how have they not noticed yet
Nahhh, I think that title goes to Zombs
Well... Both have good points
Flame is "im the best in everything, they have to hire me" yet his content are pretty average and he's pretty arrogant sometimes
Yeah, Flame is good at tweeting about his dog 
But he's right about sitting idle with no results
They refused to play, and when they play, they fail
Cmon... Its like they are trialing jesus christ and faker holy shit
I won't be surprised if all this time doing scrim wobt pay at all
Because on scrim, you may look strong, on tournaments is another thing
Uncia quote "envy never beat us in scrims"
They lost in tournament against them
They're not gonna get proper pro experience until they actually play a tournament
I won't be surprised if imt beats them tbh
Kek
Its a different thing from a training scrim
In scrims teams aren't playing to win, they're playing to improve
Well... Sometimes they want to win too
The same cannot be said for actual games
does this game have tournaments already?
that's literally the whole point of this channel
tournaments have been a thing since beta
yup yup
They 2-0'd
I thought they looked very good against them
But that's the easiest opponent they'll have
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Orisa quad tank 
OW strim chats so low tier
huh, ultimawep
looks like I'm watching this now
I was wondering wtf he was up to
wut, skyline casting 
lul

nrg - pushing the limits of unprofessionalism in esports
one more week ๐
There's way worse people than NRG on pro teams
how Movistar won NIP?
Graceful might be the most positive pro player ever
go on...
I mean
NRG has like Num, Seagull, Harb some of the nicest guys in OW
his positivity irks me
since Im naturally an awful human being
I love num he's my papa
tune in to see faze losing
sb finally on genju
rip faze
Wot in liquid vs rise nation
rip primo
LIQUID UP 1-0 ON SELFLESS LETS GO CHAMP
Oh shit I missed liquid vs rise

I'm full on
for Liquid rn
what the actual fuck
That split was bad
really bad
holy fuck
that boop
was godlike
Rapha and Dahang best support duo NA
I pray that by reviewing my own vods and watch pro games I can climb SR higher and higher
YES
Just realized Liquid 1-0 Selfless
LETS GO CHAMP
This is the most hype bo3 i've ever seen
Emongg mouse still broken or has he bought a new one
NOOOOOOOO
okay this is done
fuck
literally kill sinatraa and you win
he's been all over them on this attack

Pharah into Dafran 76

First pick in the fight and they use dragonblade and they lose
Chokequid
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there goes this round
Why not nanoblade and Mesr on rein
whyyyyy
jfc they didnt even cap
the fucking choke
is so real
Hey look at that they started nanoboosting Shadder
And they started winning
But mesr is still on winston
so they cant win
FINALLY
oh wait
id on pharah
no pocket
so still a loss
Why does literally every team I root for lose
Well I didnt actually care about NA group A at all
I thought this match would come down to Azk vs Sinatraa but it's Dafran completely outclassing ID
And I root for Liquid and Rogue in Group B
But like
If you root for Rogue its obvious they will still win
Ye
Its gonna be CLG vs Evil in Losers' Round 1
Well I guess CLG vs Loyal could go either way
I think CLG can beat LGL
But I see CLG winning
LGE will beat LGL
LGE will beat Liquid
And LGE will beat whoever wins between the upper losers' match
Holy shit China is numba 1
ANd they will lose to Selfless in the LB Final
With 30sr difference
I'd say Evil will beat Loyal/CLG, Liquid will beat Evil, Rise will beat Loyal/CLG, Liquid vs Rise repeat, Liquid lose to Selfless and Selfless loses to Rogue
Yeah I can see that
1st - Rogue
2nd - Selfless
3rd - Liquid
4th - Rise
5th - CLG
6th - Evil
7th - Loyal
8th - FaZe
My final predictions
and obviously 9th-12th are already chosen
@clever wagon Btw Emongg replaced his mouse the day the issue happened even when he streamed after.
NRG is gonna play next weekend
Fuck yeah
The nex mm is gonna be insane
Btw how is sefless compared to top tier?
We havent seen them play anyone except Rogue
But they are the only team who has come anywhere close to beating Rogue
So they're up there
Easily top of tier 2
So they are a new team?
When EnVy, C9 and NRG play we'll be able to see where teams stand
Right now Selfless can be considered tier 1, but they haven't played C9, EnVy or NRG
Well they cant really be considered Tier 1 when we havent seen them or the tier 1 team they came at all close to beating, play vs the other tier 1 teams
But we can definitely say they're top of tier 2
They also took Rogue to a fifth map two times and would have beaten them if some very minor mistakes weren't made
How is rogue compared to top tier korean teams ? ๐ค
Like runaway, LH, LW blue, meta athena
We dont know
The last time they played vs koreans was Apex S1
Like korean teams are insane with strats
I bet they can easily counter the fuck outta of dive
We know that they can only dive right?
LH didnt have zunba or whoru either
KnoxXx has said they'll switch off dive when they meet a team that can shut it down
Cause I remember when they played something other than dive and almost lost in amm
LWB didnt have Nanohana
Basically, the teams were vastly different back when Rogue last played koreans
So we don't know how they stack up
It'll be funny when Rogue switches NiCO to Lucio, Winz to Zarya, KnoxXx to Rein and SoOn maybe to Roadhog
What do you guys think of numlocked I have never seen him before play
Dont know
Didnt he play in the WC
I really wanna see some of the best chinese teams
Apparently they are on par with korea
I wonder how Fusion Girls is doing scrimming the koreans
Blank won both their bo5's this week 3-0 after being in Taiwan for a week, having two days of practice in the last two weeks, and in their very first LAN
But the teams they're playing arent koreans hence why im wondering
This was Blank's weakest week
I was looking at liquids match history earlier and up until they played Rogue, they were on a winstreak
Flash Wolves and ahq are the two teams that will contend with Blank, imo
The rest are free wins
The only teams Liquid have lost to so far are Rogue and Selfless
Both Rogue and LH are dive only users
But LH can play in a more diverse way
We have seen them do it
Unlike rogue
I think I have seen them playing something other than dive and they almost lost until they switched back to dive
Have a look into this, I am certain that Sayaplayer from meta athena is in fact cheating
nip lost??? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeBDBmaUN1Y&feature=youtu.be&t=277 4:37, 6:33, 7:37 @spring lintel
He isn't hacking
lul what https://puu.sh/vfuL5/499b2d22b6.png

Does he just block people with weeb twitter content or what
I remember I followed him long ago
Oh
why would you ever have your skype on your discord profile when you're in a discord with this many people in it? 
posting kephrii's twitter account isn't exactly esports
Like whatever when I set my Discord up
Esports only 

Soe is esport too but Polo don't want ๐ข
No she isnt
i probably wont watch anything but are there any tournaments happening right now
The EU Pit playoffs are on in 4 hours
yes she is eSport
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/775468552916721664/cFCl7Ne3.jpg

No she isnt
She is
Nope
The only time she should be talked about is when she's hosting a tournament
at any other time she is just a girl
Nuh uh
So we shouldn't talk about nrg because they didn't compete since month then
Polo pls
You know it isnt the same thing
In France
she works in esports but pictures of her are unrelated to esports
yes
Talking about her hosting is a-ok
Talking about wanting to have sex with her and how cute she is
No
Pls
wtf
then I can't talk about how saebyeolbe is hot?
There was an argument about whole beard of zebbo
or how stitch is #1 qt?
pls
^
we also regularily mention how jehong is fucking hot
I talked about reinforce during the World Cup
You are just bringing up more things you shouldnt talk about lul
yes, you are the rules
you're literally the only person who has a problem with it, you know
lol
the mods who freqeunt don't care, fucking draw doesn't mind it
Mods not caring about server rules doesnt sound good to me 
agreed 
you two just invented it out of nowhere
"other places don't obey rules so rules shouldn't apply" 
we interpret the rule differently
and you're saying that mods are ignoring it because we don't interpret it like you

we consider stitch's cuteness and zebbo's beart eSports related, you don't
apparently mods also consider it eSports related
no rules are being ignored, lul
What is going on here ๐ค
nothing of value
whining about not being able to post selfies of people in an esports channel
Polo at it again?
yep @mint sky
Randomly bringing this stuff up and making whole discussions out of it? Not fine
Thanks draw
._.
sounds good
there you go, creating a problem where there was none
because 2 out of all the regulars mind it
lol
literally just don't participate when you don't care
there is no problem, there is however now a rule
Oh wait
good, problem solved
This all started because of Soe didn't it
TheSojum - Today at 9:52 PM
there you go, creating a problem where there was none
No more spicy Twoeasy posts U_U
Meme are not esport related
@solid spear I used to post those a lot, can't do that anymore? 
no more pictures of pro players
since it's not related
no more funny tweets
lmfao
tfw polo posts flame and dummy drama
although it's about as unrelated as zebbo's beard
lol
Flame is not even a caster, nor a pro
we are talking about the channel meta
this is not off topic
lol
you just created a problem where there was none
next time when you post something like that I'll make sure to ping a mod!
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there wasn't a rule about it back then 
Its ok sojum, lets make this channel more dead as it is already
^

yeah keep going
Yeah, let's stop here now. We'll ping a mod eventually
Oh your rightI guess
Lol why does tobi have so many views ๐
He is a support player, I didnt think he was this popular
implying support players can't be popular
Only dspstanky is popular ๐ค
Because of his insane intro
Dspstanky had one of the best blow ups I have ever seen
DSP is not esport related
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he's a pro
Pretty much all pro players play DPS at a GM level
I expect him to play dps at that level
don't forget that tobi didn't necessarily head into overwatch with lucio in mind
he was probably like "I like fps"
"I see OW, I want to compete"
and happened to be on lucio because it worked well for him
Sayaplayer's hacking guys 
Oh plz we can talk about pros here
no, it's not related to a game, amiright?
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^
pretty much
what a pro player does in his free time is about as related as who is hotter between jehong and saebyeolbe
Oh yeah OMM this week
Yum yum
Gonna be fucking sick
I'm hyped af
And pit in 4h i think
Oh so are we not allowed to post things like Flame and Dummy on Twitter?
EU put in 4 hours
No
Aww
Iddqd is my mccree fav and seagull was the first to get me into genji
Wait seriously?
Idk it's weird
Isnt this discord for the community?
Idd kinda made me play Tracer
btw, the rule was invented after he complained about a non existent rule ๐
I will need to find somewhere else to get my esport drama/meme discussion
Why cant we drama here?
nope, not anymore
I like drama ;_;
Because it isn't esport related apparently
I need to get to the bottom of this
oh wait, that's against the rules
We need an OW Esports Circlejerk server
Yum
Who seconds
You can discuss that, what you can't discuss is how hot a player or caster or commentator is.
LOL
Draw let's be real
Awww okay
Jehong ๐
rule was literally invented because 2 people were whining
No more beard discussion ๐ข
I am not gay but ๐ฅ
And what I mean by that is you can't start random discussions about it, making off hand remarks in the moment is fine
Like if we talk about it 24/7
Can we talk about pros streams?
@vestal mortar 
Wait but I can randomly be like Jehong is hot
Yes
that's about as related as whether a player is hot
Nice
damn
its bad enough that OW twitch chats suck
lets not make this safe haven suck too D:
@BAAAM I think not, I remember Polo bitching on someone talking about Jake's stream
To be honest I feel like this channel is generally good about staying on topic compared to most we really shouldn't make a big deal out of nothing
Okay I am so excited to see NRG
Drama is as much related as who's hotter
^
I swear to god if they suck
Well
lolol
I'll keep bringing this up
First tournament in months
forever
I am gonna rage so hard
- If an Administrator or a Moderator asks you to stop something, you should stop.
I fuckign hate useless rules being invented for no reason
They may not look great
are they playing today or something
yes
o snap lolol
pit
I will leave Esports
Later this week
lmao
They will suck for sure
NRG has to be good this weekend
aw
Define good?
As would fuck with rogue and meta athena
pffft
They were scrimming for months now
I really wanna see how iddqd is gonna do
Haven't played in a real tourney in ages
I hope he didnt get worse
They have tough competition
Yeah their first tourney is insane
Bout as tough as it gets for a Melee
At least they should destroy selfless or I am not gonna be satisfied
Your expectations are too high
I know
They have only been scrimming with their full lineup for a month
Selfless is like the 2nd best team in NA rn
That's why they will fail
They have one of the best hitscan in the world
And they all are finally located in NA for a week ๐
But they also has seagull
Dafran is arguably the best hitscan in the game
In general yeah
West at least
@solid spear 
But as mccree iddqd is better
I'm sucking him sulli pls
I wouldn't say that dafran is that good tbh
I just dont know about numlocked
selfless plays around him
HarryHook's Soldier > Dafran's
and gives him a ton of space
Watch yourself
aKm, Taimou, Surefour, Tviq, iddqd have something to say about that statement
Yeah
which makes him look more impressive than he probably is
Mendo
like, harryhook destroyed his 76 as 76
on stream
when he didn't have an entire team backing him
he actually went dva to rek harry
Can I not suck Dadfran guys pls
No succ
รo
I really want kephri to go pro

Kephri is not esport related
I also only succ TviQ after watching him for half a year
Dafran is good in all heroes
Kephrii 
I am, i want rules to be respected ๐
we've seen dafran be a god on 76 and destroy jake in pharah v pharah. jake has historically been bad at pharah v pharah
@spring lintel he's salty, and I don't blame him
then we saw a bit of his genji
At this rate the channel will go to shit
Am I salty because i want rules to be respected? ๐ค
When I found out that seagull wansnt the best genji in the world I was devastated
With people bitching on people to get that mod role
I've respected so many rules today ๐
Fuck rules
@spring lintel we all were there 
Yeah
By brining up the rules to try to point out you'll catch anyone taking it off topic, you went off topic.

Dafran is good, but I'm not ready to call him a king god yet
I am
Dafran still needs to test himself against the top
Dadfran

I saw the mod talking and I changed the subject ๐๐
I think dafran is pretty bad
Can someone explain to me the story of IDDQD and Harbleu joining NRG
they got tried and joined
They are fucking awesome dude
the end
Harb is 100% hog
No special story
what happened to their old team?
Don't forget Zarya
they just left?
harb left
He's a god zarya
iddqd was benched
I am still skeptical about numlocked
I remembered harb saying he would never leave nich and TORK
why was iddqd benched and who was the replacement?
numlocked is really good
Based on Dummys montages lol see Harb mostly on Zarya, Hog with occasional Tracer
Pros saying they will never leave ___ 
we don't know why idd was benched
Like numlocked doesnt have any rep
but probably personailty differences
Most likely
No videos, nothing
Toxicity
numlocked has a ton of rep...
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has been on top EU teams since beta
very good tank
but it could always be an act
Iddqd seems chill until you fuck with him
Well personality differences doesn't have to be straight raging
my reply was to DMcsullvian
num definitely has more rep than ajax, kek
We don't know were not in coms
He'll fit well with toxic Dummy
Is dummy toxic?
wut
Surefour no rep?
caught
literally wut
Hello?
hacking
And everyone meshes well with good guy Seagull
????
do you even watch pro overwatch
caught????
Surefour's regarded as one of the best players in the game
or he has reputation
Surefour is like actually a god
just not good reputation
Surefour has an insane rep from the WC
what in the world are you on about
he was caught hacking in titanfall
surefour has a reputation as one of the best players in teh game
he wasn*t caught
lmao
and someone or him in dirty bomb
I can show you the titanfall video
You mean Surelock?
I used to play titanfall

He's one of the best dps in the world
so yes, I'm familiar with that video
I agree hes good

And any allegations are unproven

they will remain

unproven
just like counter strike
I remember when draw was a peasant like us
What's he talking about lol
Times do change a lot
surefour aimed at someone whom he saw jumping from a corner
Nah nah I totally forgot @toxic yacht
They won't ban Surefour because he's not hacking lol
Only thing hurting s4 rep is that weeb
because aimer7's word is god
ah, back when draw didn't have opinions yet
Im not saying surefour is hacking overwatch
and asked us about how everythign in the scene worked
how the times have changed
they grow so fast


:^)
You sure you're not thinking of the Tork bros or Babybay
TJO bros*
Oh yeah lol
dunno about the dirty bomb one


What's with all these hacking accusations today?


they wont stop him

from playing in a tourney
are you aimer?
Do we have to talk about this lol this is baseless
surefour had hackusations, like every other good hitscan player
spectator confirmed unreliable
no concrete proof
end of story
innocent until proven guilty
I agree
with that
But same goes with the tf2 players caught hacking
lots of the snipers were using the same code
LMAObox
tonnes of them got banned
when the source code came out
good read
Tara hacks confirmed? ๐
I dont believe he actively hacks
but I think he has used them
at some point or the other
hes obviously a good player
Tara hacks AND is toxic ๐
It's obvious
Hacks can help u tbh
but hacks do give you the edge

Im saying he as a suspicious reputation
But if you guys notice all of them play with at least 200fps
its just that alot of players in counter strike are hackers
and have hacked
including pros streamers and etc,
Surefour didn't come from CS so what's your point
its like any fps
The TJO bros come from CS right?
or any games









