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forest raven
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LGL has a better chance of getting to semis than LGE

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But Misfits is up against Laser Kittenz

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Gonna be hype

balmy wolf
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rip LGE

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Rogue is a powerhouse

forest raven
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Yeah, if they had performed better in groups they wouldn't be up against Rogue

balmy wolf
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yep

forest raven
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Liquid vs. Rise is gonna be the best match of the quarters imo

balmy wolf
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what time is it EST?

forest raven
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Begins in 13h 30min

balmy wolf
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ohh

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yes

forest raven
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So you can do the math from that

balmy wolf
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I remember

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I got it

vestal mortar
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I am watching the APEX finals now, this singing contest is amazing lmao. I hope the OWL has this kind of production quality.

forest raven
balmy wolf
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I cant wait for Liquid vs Rise

forest raven
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Gonna be the closest of the quarters

pearl aurora
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will watch once i'm done eating 3Cccc

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also that singing contest was amazing

balmy wolf
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I was just on r/livestreamfail and saw a post about some small streamer getting hosted by ster and then instantly unhosted for saying the n word @forest raven

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And turns out it was harrybutcher

forest raven
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gj Harry

balmy wolf
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it was just a joke though, ster didnt actually care he said it

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he was going to host someone else but they went offline so he just did that instead

forest raven
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Oh lol

vestal mortar
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Esca's singing ๐Ÿ˜‚

balmy wolf
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and near the end of the OPs full clip he goes into a scrim

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vs CLG

forest raven
balmy wolf
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and is apparently really fucking toxic

forest raven
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Harry is?

balmy wolf
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yeah

forest raven
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rip

balmy wolf
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going into a scrim lobby against CLG and asking them if he can stream the match. Already a big nono, shouldn't even be asked. Of course they say no. So he responds by telling them to fuck off, that their coach is a bitch, that a player named cuddles has the dumbest name he's ever heard, a bunch more, ALL BEFORE THE MATCH STARTS. Then the stream goes off and comes back on in minutes because he started spamming during the game cursing the other team and being a complete asshole for literally no reason.

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Quote from the reddit comment

forest raven
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Jesus

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Who was he scrimming with

balmy wolf
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This was a month ago so I'm guessing $?

forest raven
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o

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Well

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Good thing they got rid of him

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Didn't matter much

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But still

balmy wolf
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Thats too bad cause he was a good rein

forest raven
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Mhm :/

clever wagon
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Who, HarryButcher?

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I remember reading Ster doing that but no idea who he hosted

forest raven
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Yeah

clever wagon
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I only heard about the N word

abstract kernel
vestal mortar
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Everyone crying at the awards ceremony for APEX makes me cry too ๐Ÿ˜ญ

solid spear
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I didn't wanna watch it tbh

forest raven
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Why's that

solid spear
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I kinda just turned it off after the game

forest raven
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Oh, the ceremony

balmy wolf
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i just stayed for mvps

vestal mortar
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When Esca spoke about reading all the mean comments, my heart broke. :C

balmy wolf
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mine didnt lul

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he deserves that

vestal mortar
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I also really like the short documentary thingy at the end

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Polo, so cold. ๐Ÿ˜ข

balmy wolf
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He played like shit

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He's been way too inconsistent as of late

forest raven
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Esca definitely showed up on Dorado and Eich

balmy wolf
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Not enough "god" plays to balance out the crap

forest raven
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But throughout groups and playoffs he was very inconsistent

vestal mortar
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Oh yeah, I agree but I feel like a lot of the hate was ott, people saying mean crap online doesn't make somebody play better.

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In fact I feel like too much hate will get ingrained into somebody and they can start believing it themselves. For me, a lot of what was said was just too much.

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So criticism like "Esca keeps getting out of position and is picked off at the beginning of every fight, he needs to work on that if LH want to win" is perfectly fine in my book. But stuff like "Esca is the worst and they should kick him off the team" upsets me.

balmy wolf
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My favourite was "put esca on lucio"

vestal mortar
balmy wolf
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everyone was laughing in vc when someone in chat said that lol

vestal mortar
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That's a good one

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I really love RunAway and LH, such good teams for the finals. I want to keep following both of them. Too many great players and wonderful fun personalities! :' )

gentle shuttle
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Runner bess Lucio ๐Ÿท

vestal mortar
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I want some of those korean fangirl signs too for my room

balmy wolf
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Tobi was a lot better in the finals

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Runner underperformed

gentle shuttle
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his poor positioning seems pretty consistent, the way i hear it

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every team needs a personality like his on it i think

clever wagon
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Runner is probably like not exactly tier 1 Lucio like Tobi is but he's there for the shotcalling and mood making

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You say EscA is bad, whatever. At least Hanamura onwards he pulled himself together, unlike ArHaN

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ArHaN fell from grace and was simply falling further as the tournament goes

toxic yacht
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is it me or is Taimou a bit of a boring player

like u see it at the end of the game
"oh wow Taimou has 32 kills"
but u can never remember them.

can u remember a single Taimou kill ?

but try AKM...u can see the flick
i remember a AKM flick.

rapid oxide
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Because AKM>Taimou

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Of taimou i remember the widow kills

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In apex this season

toxic yacht
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I'm just memeing

rapid oxide
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You are kinda right tho because i dont remember any kills except that ๐Ÿ˜‚

toxic yacht
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but aKm is flat out more versatile

rapid oxide
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Man, comp ow was spammed of iddqd kills

toxic yacht
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lmao

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so much spam that even twoeasy complained

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and tbh I agree with him

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I mean, nice mechanical skill from iddqd

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but that's kinda avarage for a pro rekking pubs

balmy wolf
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subreddit elitists wut

rapid oxide
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Skyline shitting on Ryu ๐Ÿ˜ข

toxic yacht
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wut

rapid oxide
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He did the first map analysis

toxic yacht
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ah, and he was critisizing ryu because he died for once?

rapid oxide
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And he commented on sleepdart

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"ana god yee bla bla but that sleep dart was easy"

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Well, technically yes, because haksal was kinda go straight into him or fall without moving

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Well... He didn't considered that was at a final in a lan

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But ryu is a god for other reasons

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I remember on 66 that Zunba was alive thanks to ryu

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And good shield management

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But mostly for his healing

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And when magically he kills someone while getting gangbanged but somehow he doesn't die

burnt token
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hey anyone got a link for the twitch channel what has been streaming the american tourtaments with like selfless and that in it. think the grand prizewas like 15k aswell. cant remember much about it only watched one game but want to watch more

clever wagon
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RJH remains the most elusive Ana, much like a cornered rat

toxic yacht
forest raven
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The link is in the channel description and the pins

toxic yacht
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it's in the channel description

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btw

burnt token
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thank you

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well umm... never read that just kind of pop in here sometimes really

viral umbra
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English stream of the current chinese tournament.

balmy wolf
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In the channel desc and pins

rapid oxide
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Slowpoloke

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๐Ÿ˜‚

balmy wolf
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๐Ÿ˜’

rapid oxide
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๐Ÿ˜™

supple nymph
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i like those odds....

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.....

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gonna be good...

toxic yacht
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...are you really gonna ask for predictions?

rapid oxide
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LGEVIL ๐Ÿ˜ข

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We 3% bois

solid spear
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Surprised so few people think RN can beat Liquid

rapid oxide
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Rise Nation and CLG final for sure

toxic yacht
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I think that I'll just skip faze vs selfless

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I don't want cri

solid spear
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No you should cry

balmy wolf
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It was painful watching FaZe vs Tempo

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fucking sdb on winston

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like fuck that

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You're playing on Ilios and never genji

toxic yacht
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sdb on winston

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FaZe are throwing, right?

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they actually want to lose this

rapid oxide
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I've seen Taimou do some work on Genji, but he definitely wouldn't be able to match pro Genji's like Haksal and Arhan.

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

solid spear
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I guess he just can't play through ping

toxic yacht
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according to twoeasy sdb doesn't care about ping

balmy wolf
solid spear
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Arhan lul

balmy wolf
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so much green

toxic yacht
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he actually became angry whenever someone pointed it out

solid spear
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Just weird then

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That he's playing such little Genju

toxic yacht
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FaZe is dumb and trying to lose

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only explanation I can think of

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they always lose when he's not on genji or pharah

rapid oxide
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Hows mikeya doing?

toxic yacht
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ehhh

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very ehh

solid spear
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He's there

rapid oxide
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He used to be tier 1 tf soldier

toxic yacht
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therefore that he's supposed to replace twoeasy

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he's trash

rapid oxide
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Guess its clockwork v2

toxic yacht
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pretty much what polo said, lul

supple nymph
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pool*

solid spear
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Why won't Silk just go pro u_u

clever wagon
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*poop

viral umbra
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Any eng. streams for the premier series spring preseason?

clever wagon
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Tracer's role is flank the flanker??? thenkeng

rapid oxide
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Esca ๐Ÿ˜™

gentle shuttle
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gdi dont tell me i missed pit again

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oop

pine star
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Wow what just happened

solid spear
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Rip

gentle shuttle
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LOL

vestal mortar
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welp

pine star
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Dummy confirmed toxic

vestal mortar
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He has been confirmed toxic for a while now

pine star
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Dummy confirmed even more toxic

vestal mortar
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Called me a freak once

gentle shuttle
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srsly?

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dummy always seemed like one of the more chilled players

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:C

vestal mortar
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Oh yeah it's just a joke, we all call eachother toxic in his stream chat and discord

pine star
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Maybe you're the toxic one Tara

gentle shuttle
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i just woke up im dumb

pine star
gentle shuttle
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pit lookin like a slideshow

vestal mortar
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Most people seem to believe I am the lone non-toxic person around, but perhaps Dummy's toxicity has caught on. ๐Ÿค”

pine star
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Maybe YOU made him toxic pixelThinking

gentle shuttle
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how have they not noticed yet

vestal mortar
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Nahhh, I think that title goes to Zombs

rapid oxide
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Well... Both have good points

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Flame is "im the best in everything, they have to hire me" yet his content are pretty average and he's pretty arrogant sometimes

vestal mortar
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Yeah, Flame is good at tweeting about his dog widowlol

rapid oxide
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But he's right about sitting idle with no results

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They refused to play, and when they play, they fail

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Cmon... Its like they are trialing jesus christ and faker holy shit

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I won't be surprised if all this time doing scrim wobt pay at all

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Because on scrim, you may look strong, on tournaments is another thing

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Uncia quote "envy never beat us in scrims"

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They lost in tournament against them

forest raven
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They're not gonna get proper pro experience until they actually play a tournament

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I won't be surprised if imt beats them tbh

rapid oxide
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Same

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Even if pit is "a payed scrim"

forest raven
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Kek

rapid oxide
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Its a different thing from a training scrim

forest raven
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In scrims teams aren't playing to win, they're playing to improve

rapid oxide
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Well... Sometimes they want to win too

forest raven
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The same cannot be said for actual games

gentle shuttle
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bro

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how have they not fixed this yet

eager wedge
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does this game have tournaments already?

toxic yacht
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that's literally the whole point of this channel

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tournaments have been a thing since beta

gentle shuttle
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yup yup

balmy wolf
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hmm how did the NiP game go?

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I was asleep

solid spear
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They 2-0'd

balmy wolf
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I saw

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hmm

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did they play well? in your opinion

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NiP, that is

solid spear
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I thought they looked very good against them

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But that's the easiest opponent they'll have

balmy wolf
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

rapid oxide
balmy wolf
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Athena Cup Open League Week #4 IN 5 MINUTES

balmy wolf
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LIVE NOW!!

solid spear
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Orisa quad tank iddGasm

gentle shuttle
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OW strim chats so low tier

toxic yacht
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huh, ultimawep

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looks like I'm watching this now

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I was wondering wtf he was up to

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wut, skyline casting pogchimp

gentle shuttle
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i miss seeing his genji

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caught him strim the other day also

balmy wolf
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lul

toxic yacht
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lul

vestal mortar
supple nymph
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nrg - pushing the limits of unprofessionalism in esports

toxic yacht
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one more week ๐Ÿ˜›

balmy wolf
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There's way worse people than NRG on pro teams

wintry matrix
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how Movistar won NIP?

gentle shuttle
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Graceful might be the most positive pro player ever

supple nymph
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go on...

solid spear
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I mean

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NRG has like Num, Seagull, Harb some of the nicest guys in OW

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his positivity irks me

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since Im naturally an awful human being

balmy wolf
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I love num he's my papa

supple nymph
past oar
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finally

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evening all

supple nymph
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tune in to see faze losing

past oar
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sb finally on genju

supple nymph
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rip faze

forest raven
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Wot in liquid vs rise nation

supple nymph
gentle shuttle
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anyways

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lol

supple nymph
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rip primo

supple nymph
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why get a pharah counter

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who needs it

solid spear
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Dafran McCree

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never get to see it harbFeels

forest raven
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Emongg on dps

forest raven
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LIQUID UP 1-0 ON SELFLESS LETS GO CHAMP

balmy wolf
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Oh shit I missed liquid vs rise

forest raven
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I'm full on pogW for Liquid rn

balmy wolf
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what the actual fuck

forest raven
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No spawn camping in this series

balmy wolf
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That split was bad

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really bad

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holy fuck

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that boop

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was godlike

forest raven
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Rapha and Dahang best support duo NA

clever wagon
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I pray that by reviewing my own vods and watch pro games I can climb SR higher and higher

forest raven
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So

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Liquid tier 1 NA? Thinktato

balmy wolf
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YES

clever wagon
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Just realized Liquid 1-0 Selfless

balmy wolf
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LETS GO LIQUID

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LETS GO

forest raven
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LETS GO CHAMP

balmy wolf
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This is the most hype bo3 i've ever seen

clever wagon
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Emongg mouse still broken or has he bought a new one

forest raven
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They got all the way through streets

balmy wolf
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they didnt get a tick

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this isnt good

forest raven
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NOOOOOOOO

balmy wolf
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okay this is done

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fuck

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literally kill sinatraa and you win

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he's been all over them on this attack

forest raven
balmy wolf
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Pharah into Dafran 76

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First pick in the fight and they use dragonblade and they lose

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Chokequid

forest raven
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๐Ÿ‘ถ ๐Ÿ˜ก

balmy wolf
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there goes this round

forest raven
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Selfless woke up

balmy wolf
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Why not nanoblade and Mesr on rein

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whyyyyy

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jfc they didnt even cap

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the fucking choke

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is so real

forest raven
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4 ults to win fight and Selfless is one fight from winning the round

balmy wolf
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Hey look at that they started nanoboosting Shadder

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And they started winning

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But mesr is still on winston

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so they cant win

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FINALLY

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oh wait

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id on pharah

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no pocket

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so still a loss

forest raven
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3-0

balmy wolf
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Why does literally every team I root for lose

forest raven
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Because you don't root for Rogue or Selfless?

balmy wolf
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Well I didnt actually care about NA group A at all

forest raven
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I thought this match would come down to Azk vs Sinatraa but it's Dafran completely outclassing ID

balmy wolf
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And I root for Liquid and Rogue in Group B

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But like

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If you root for Rogue its obvious they will still win

forest raven
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Liquid will lose against LGE

balmy wolf
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Oh wait is there a losers bracket

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there is

forest raven
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Ye

balmy wolf
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Its gonna be CLG vs Evil in Losers' Round 1

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Well I guess CLG vs Loyal could go either way

forest raven
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I think CLG can beat LGL

balmy wolf
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But I see CLG winning

forest raven
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LGE will beat LGL

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LGE will beat Liquid

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And LGE will beat whoever wins between the upper losers' match

spring lintel
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Holy shit China is numba 1

forest raven
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ANd they will lose to Selfless in the LB Final

spring lintel
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With 30sr difference

balmy wolf
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I'd say Evil will beat Loyal/CLG, Liquid will beat Evil, Rise will beat Loyal/CLG, Liquid vs Rise repeat, Liquid lose to Selfless and Selfless loses to Rogue

forest raven
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Yeah I can see that

balmy wolf
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1st - Rogue
2nd - Selfless
3rd - Liquid
4th - Rise
5th - CLG
6th - Evil
7th - Loyal
8th - FaZe

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My final predictions

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and obviously 9th-12th are already chosen

digital pond
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@clever wagon Btw Emongg replaced his mouse the day the issue happened even when he streamed after.

spring lintel
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NRG is gonna play next weekend

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Fuck yeah

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The nex mm is gonna be insane

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Btw how is sefless compared to top tier?

balmy wolf
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We havent seen them play anyone except Rogue

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But they are the only team who has come anywhere close to beating Rogue

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So they're up there

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Easily top of tier 2

spring lintel
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So they are a new team?

forest raven
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When EnVy, C9 and NRG play we'll be able to see where teams stand

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Right now Selfless can be considered tier 1, but they haven't played C9, EnVy or NRG

spring lintel
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I really hope NRG wont disappoint me

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3 of my fav players are with them

balmy wolf
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Well they cant really be considered Tier 1 when we havent seen them or the tier 1 team they came at all close to beating, play vs the other tier 1 teams

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But we can definitely say they're top of tier 2

forest raven
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They also took Rogue to a fifth map two times and would have beaten them if some very minor mistakes weren't made

spring lintel
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How is rogue compared to top tier korean teams ? ๐Ÿค”

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Like runaway, LH, LW blue, meta athena

balmy wolf
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We dont know

spring lintel
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Like rogue doesnt seem to know anything beside dive ๐Ÿค”

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Thats one hella of a con

balmy wolf
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The last time they played vs koreans was Apex S1

spring lintel
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Like korean teams are insane with strats

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I bet they can easily counter the fuck outta of dive

balmy wolf
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Where their roster was very different

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in players and roles

spring lintel
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We know that they can only dive right?

balmy wolf
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LH didnt have zunba or whoru either

forest raven
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KnoxXx has said they'll switch off dive when they meet a team that can shut it down

spring lintel
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Cause I remember when they played something other than dive and almost lost in amm

balmy wolf
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LWB didnt have Nanohana

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Basically, the teams were vastly different back when Rogue last played koreans

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So we don't know how they stack up

forest raven
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It'll be funny when Rogue switches NiCO to Lucio, Winz to Zarya, KnoxXx to Rein and SoOn maybe to Roadhog

spring lintel
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What do you guys think of numlocked I have never seen him before play

balmy wolf
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Top tier reinhardt

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Very good road aswell

spring lintel
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Is he compared to miro and kaiser?

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Or is he a tad lower

balmy wolf
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Dont know

spring lintel
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Didnt he play in the WC

balmy wolf
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Yes

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For team UK

spring lintel
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I really wanna see some of the best chinese teams

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Apparently they are on par with korea

balmy wolf
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I wonder how Fusion Girls is doing scrimming the koreans

spring lintel
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Didnt they play like 2 days ago in a tourney?

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How did that go?

balmy wolf
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I didnt watch but they won both their bo5s so far

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the first one was pretty bad tho

forest raven
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Blank won both their bo5's this week 3-0 after being in Taiwan for a week, having two days of practice in the last two weeks, and in their very first LAN

balmy wolf
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But the teams they're playing arent koreans hence why im wondering

forest raven
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This was Blank's weakest week

balmy wolf
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I was looking at liquids match history earlier and up until they played Rogue, they were on a winstreak

forest raven
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Flash Wolves and ahq are the two teams that will contend with Blank, imo

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The rest are free wins

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The only teams Liquid have lost to so far are Rogue and Selfless

clever wagon
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Both Rogue and LH are dive only users

spring lintel
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But LH can play in a more diverse way

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We have seen them do it

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Unlike rogue

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I think I have seen them playing something other than dive and they almost lost until they switched back to dive

vocal hazel
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Have a look into this, I am certain that Sayaplayer from meta athena is in fact cheating

rapid oxide
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nip lost??? kaplanwhat

spring lintel
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Does anyone have the clip

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I just wanna see it

clever wagon
mint sky
clever wagon
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Does he just block people with weeb twitter content or what

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I remember I followed him long ago

vestal mortar
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Oh

clever wagon
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Well, not like I lost anything anyway

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Just curious

mint sky
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why would you ever have your skype on your discord profile when you're in a discord with this many people in it? monkaMega

clever wagon
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Not esports REEEE

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But anyway

mint sky
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posting kephrii's twitter account isn't exactly esports

clever wagon
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Like whatever when I set my Discord up

vestal mortar
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Esports only climbing

balmy wolf
rapid oxide
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Soe is esport too but Polo don't want ๐Ÿ˜ข

balmy wolf
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No she isnt

thorny locust
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i probably wont watch anything but are there any tournaments happening right now

balmy wolf
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The EU Pit playoffs are on in 4 hours

toxic yacht
balmy wolf
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No she isnt

rapid oxide
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She is

balmy wolf
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Nope

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The only time she should be talked about is when she's hosting a tournament

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at any other time she is just a girl

solid spear
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Nuh uh

rapid oxide
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So we shouldn't talk about nrg because they didn't compete since month then

solid spear
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Polo pls

rapid oxide
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They are just games like me then

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Also she work for esport blizzard

balmy wolf
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You know it isnt the same thing

rapid oxide
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In France

mint sky
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she works in esports but pictures of her are unrelated to esports

toxic yacht
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ok

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so I can't post pictures of pros anymore

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since that's also not related

mint sky
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yes

balmy wolf
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Talking about her hosting is a-ok

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Talking about wanting to have sex with her and how cute she is

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No

rapid oxide
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Pls

thorny locust
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wtf

toxic yacht
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then I can't talk about how saebyeolbe is hot?

rapid oxide
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There was an argument about whole beard of zebbo

toxic yacht
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or how stitch is #1 qt?

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pls

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^

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we also regularily mention how jehong is fucking hot

balmy wolf
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No

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You cant

toxic yacht
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we even compared the attractiveness of pros multiple times

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pls

balmy wolf
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I talked about reinforce during the World Cup

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You are just bringing up more things you shouldnt talk about lul

toxic yacht
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yes, you are the rules

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you're literally the only person who has a problem with it, you know

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lol

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the mods who freqeunt don't care, fucking draw doesn't mind it

balmy wolf
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Mods not caring about server rules doesnt sound good to me thinkerong

mint sky
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agreed sqtlThinking

toxic yacht
#

it's not a rule

#

lmao

rapid oxide
#

Because you seriously think that overwatch channel is 100% overwatch related?

#

pls

toxic yacht
#

you two just invented it out of nowhere

mint sky
#

"other places don't obey rules so rules shouldn't apply" wixSanic

toxic yacht
#

we interpret the rule differently

#

and you're saying that mods are ignoring it because we don't interpret it like you

#

we consider stitch's cuteness and zebbo's beart eSports related, you don't

#

apparently mods also consider it eSports related

#

no rules are being ignored, lul

rapid oxide
#

We shouldn't even consider drama between players

#

But got posted

pine star
#

What is going on here ๐Ÿค”

toxic yacht
#

nothing of value

mint sky
#

whining about not being able to post selfies of people in an esports channel

pine star
#

Polo at it again?

forest raven
#

How about this

#

Making off hand remarks in the moment during matches? Fine

balmy wolf
#

yep @mint sky

forest raven
#

Randomly bringing this stuff up and making whole discussions out of it? Not fine

balmy wolf
#

Thanks draw

solid spear
#

._.

mint sky
#

sounds good

toxic yacht
#

there you go, creating a problem where there was none

#

because 2 out of all the regulars mind it

#

lol

#

literally just don't participate when you don't care

mint sky
#

there is no problem, there is however now a rule

toxic yacht
#

now there is

#

before there wasn't

pine star
#

Oh wait

mint sky
#

good, problem solved

toxic yacht
#

how hard is that to grasp lol

#

yes, there was never any fucking problem

#

lul

pine star
#

This all started because of Soe didn't it

mint sky
#

TheSojum - Today at 9:52 PM
there you go, creating a problem where there was none

solid spear
#

No more spicy Twoeasy posts U_U

rapid oxide
#

Meme are not esport related

toxic yacht
#

^

#

no more memes from me

#

since it's not related

rapid oxide
#

No more selfie

#

No more twitter drama

pine star
#

@solid spear I used to post those a lot, can't do that anymore? pixelThinking

toxic yacht
#

no more pictures of pro players

#

since it's not related

#

no more funny tweets

#

lmfao

#

tfw polo posts flame and dummy drama

#

although it's about as unrelated as zebbo's beard

#

lol

rapid oxide
#

Flame is not even a caster, nor a pro

balmy wolf
#

tfw you're still off topic

#

after the problem has been resolved

toxic yacht
#

we are talking about the channel meta

#

this is not off topic

#

lol

#

you just created a problem where there was none

#

next time when you post something like that I'll make sure to ping a mod!

#

๐Ÿ˜‰

mint sky
#

there wasn't a rule about it back then wixSanic

rapid oxide
#

Its ok sojum, lets make this channel more dead as it is already

toxic yacht
#

^

pine star
toxic yacht
#

only #superserious esports discussion

#

no more memes

#

no jokes

balmy wolf
#

yeah keep going

rapid oxide
#

Yeah, let's stop here now. We'll ping a mod eventually

spring lintel
#

What's going on there are a lot of pro korean streaming rn

#

LH and runaway

balmy wolf
#

Apex ended

#

So they have more free time

spring lintel
#

Oh your rightI guess

#

Lol why does tobi have so many views ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

He is a support player, I didnt think he was this popular

pine star
#

implying support players can't be popular

spring lintel
#

Only dspstanky is popular ๐Ÿค”

#

Because of his insane intro

#

Dspstanky had one of the best blow ups I have ever seen

rapid oxide
#

DSP is not esport related

spring lintel
#

Yeah

#

I guess

#

I am very sorry vace

#

I hope I didnt offend you

pine star
#

๐Ÿ‘€

spring lintel
#

Or make this chat unreadable

#

Tobi isnt that bad at mccree

toxic yacht
#

he's a pro

balmy wolf
#

Pretty much all pro players play DPS at a GM level

toxic yacht
#

I expect him to play dps at that level

balmy wolf
#

and you have normal GMs who say "oh yeah im shit at X"

#

and then they crush you on it

toxic yacht
#

don't forget that tobi didn't necessarily head into overwatch with lucio in mind

#

he was probably like "I like fps"

#

"I see OW, I want to compete"

#

and happened to be on lucio because it worked well for him

spring lintel
#

LOL wtf

#

It's sayaplayer

#

Why is he on tobi's channel

#

I feel so stupid

toxic yacht
#

not eSports related

#

delete

balmy wolf
#

Sayaplayer's hacking guys LULUS

spring lintel
#

Oh plz we can talk about pros here

toxic yacht
#

no, it's not related to a game, amiright?

spring lintel
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

solid spear
#

๐Ÿ‘€

spring lintel
#

Okay guys there no esport going on right now

#

So no one talks

toxic yacht
#

^

#

pretty much

#

what a pro player does in his free time is about as related as who is hotter between jehong and saebyeolbe

solid spear
#

Oh yeah OMM this week

toxic yacht
#

oi, omm this week

solid spear
#

Yum yum

spring lintel
#

Gonna be fucking sick

toxic yacht
#

I'm hyped af

rapid oxide
#

And pit in 4h i think

spring lintel
#

Cant wait for NRG

#

I am so hyped

vestal mortar
#

Oh so are we not allowed to post things like Flame and Dummy on Twitter?

toxic yacht
#

EU put in 4 hours

rapid oxide
#

No

toxic yacht
#

no, we aren't

#

wchih polo did yesterday

#

btw

vestal mortar
#

Aww

spring lintel
#

Iddqd is my mccree fav and seagull was the first to get me into genji

toxic yacht
#

then he said that it's against the rules today

#

although the rule was invented today

spring lintel
#

Wait seriously?

solid spear
#

Idk it's weird

spring lintel
#

Isnt this discord for the community?

solid spear
#

Idd kinda made me play Tracer

toxic yacht
#

btw, the rule was invented after he complained about a non existent rule ๐Ÿ‘Œ

vestal mortar
#

I will need to find somewhere else to get my esport drama/meme discussion

spring lintel
#

Why cant we drama here?

toxic yacht
#

nope, not anymore

solid spear
#

I like drama ;_;

pine star
#

Because it isn't esport related apparently

spring lintel
#

I need to get to the bottom of this

toxic yacht
#

oh wait, that's against the rules

spring lintel
#

Who cares why make rules only you like

#

I missed it

pine star
#

We need an OW Esports Circlejerk server

solid spear
#

Yum

pine star
#

Who seconds

forest raven
#

You can discuss that, what you can't discuss is how hot a player or caster or commentator is.

spring lintel
#

LOL

solid spear
#

Draw let's be real

vestal mortar
#

Awww okay

solid spear
#

Jehong ๐Ÿ‘Œ

toxic yacht
#

draw, you know that only 2 people care

#

lol

spring lintel
#

Draw it's just a nice small banter

#

Like that guy with runaway

toxic yacht
#

rule was literally invented because 2 people were whining

vestal mortar
#

No more beard discussion ๐Ÿ˜ข

spring lintel
#

I am not gay but ๐Ÿ”ฅ

forest raven
#

And what I mean by that is you can't start random discussions about it, making off hand remarks in the moment is fine

rapid oxide
#

Like if we talk about it 24/7

spring lintel
#

Can we talk about pros streams?

pine star
#

@vestal mortar feelsbad

solid spear
#

Wait but I can randomly be like Jehong is hot

forest raven
#

Yes

toxic yacht
#

that's about as related as whether a player is hot

spring lintel
#

Nice

toxic yacht
#

lol

#

and you know that

gentle shuttle
#

damn

#

its bad enough that OW twitch chats suck

#

lets not make this safe haven suck too D:

pine star
#

@BAAAM I think not, I remember Polo bitching on someone talking about Jake's stream

solid spear
#

To be honest I feel like this channel is generally good about staying on topic compared to most we really shouldn't make a big deal out of nothing

toxic yacht
#

it is

#

but 2 people just had to whine for no reason

#

lol

spring lintel
#

Okay I am so excited to see NRG

rapid oxide
#

Drama is as much related as who's hotter

toxic yacht
#

^

spring lintel
#

I swear to god if they suck

solid spear
#

Well

gentle shuttle
#

lolol

toxic yacht
#

I'll keep bringing this up

solid spear
#

First tournament in months

toxic yacht
#

forever

spring lintel
#

I am gonna rage so hard

mint sky
#
  1. If an Administrator or a Moderator asks you to stop something, you should stop.
toxic yacht
#

I fuckign hate useless rules being invented for no reason

solid spear
#

They may not look great

gentle shuttle
#

are they playing today or something

toxic yacht
#

yes

gentle shuttle
#

o snap lolol

toxic yacht
#

pit

spring lintel
#

I will leave Esports

solid spear
#

Later this week

toxic yacht
#

wait, not nrg

#

oops

#

sorry

vestal mortar
#

lmao

rapid oxide
#

They will suck for sure

spring lintel
#

NRG has to be good this weekend

gentle shuttle
#

aw

solid spear
#

Define good?

spring lintel
#

As would fuck with rogue and meta athena

gentle shuttle
#

pffft

spring lintel
#

They were scrimming for months now

solid spear
#

The thing is it's just that

#

Scrims

spring lintel
#

I really wanna see how iddqd is gonna do

solid spear
#

Haven't played in a real tourney in ages

spring lintel
#

I hope he didnt get worse

solid spear
#

They have tough competition

spring lintel
#

Yeah their first tourney is insane

solid spear
#

Bout as tough as it gets for a Melee

spring lintel
#

At least they should destroy selfless or I am not gonna be satisfied

solid spear
#

Your expectations are too high

spring lintel
#

I know

vestal mortar
#

They have only been scrimming with their full lineup for a month

solid spear
#

Selfless is like the 2nd best team in NA rn

rapid oxide
#

That's why they will fail

spring lintel
#

They have one of the best hitscan in the world

solid spear
#

(Not talking about NV, C9)

#

So does Selfless

vestal mortar
#

And they all are finally located in NA for a week ๐Ÿ˜›

spring lintel
#

But they also has seagull

solid spear
#

Dafran is arguably the best hitscan in the game

spring lintel
#

In general yeah

solid spear
#

West at least

pine star
#

@solid spear pixelThinking

spring lintel
#

But as mccree iddqd is better

solid spear
#

I'm sucking him sulli pls

toxic yacht
#

I wouldn't say that dafran is that good tbh

spring lintel
#

I just dont know about numlocked

toxic yacht
#

selfless plays around him

pine star
#

HarryHook's Soldier > Dafran's

toxic yacht
#

and gives him a ton of space

solid spear
#

Watch yourself

forest raven
#

aKm, Taimou, Surefour, Tviq, iddqd have something to say about that statement

spring lintel
#

Yeah

toxic yacht
#

which makes him look more impressive than he probably is

forest raven
#

Mendo

toxic yacht
#

like, harryhook destroyed his 76 as 76

#

on stream

#

when he didn't have an entire team backing him

#

he actually went dva to rek harry

solid spear
#

Can I not suck Dadfran guys pls

forest raven
#

No succ

pine star
#

ร‘o

spring lintel
#

I really want kephri to go pro

forest raven
rapid oxide
#

Kephri is not esport related

toxic yacht
#

I also only succ TviQ after watching him for half a year

spring lintel
#

Dafran is good in all heroes

pine star
#

Kephrii drakeLUL

spring lintel
#

Vace I thought you were being serious before ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

They are all inconsistent

rapid oxide
#

I am, i want rules to be respected ๐Ÿ˜Š

toxic yacht
#

we've seen dafran be a god on 76 and destroy jake in pharah v pharah. jake has historically been bad at pharah v pharah

pine star
#

@spring lintel he's salty, and I don't blame him

spring lintel
#

Lol

#

I can see that

toxic yacht
#

then we saw a bit of his genji

pine star
#

At this rate the channel will go to shit

toxic yacht
#

it will, lul

#

I will make sure to remind people of the off topic rule

rapid oxide
#

Am I salty because i want rules to be respected? ๐Ÿค”

spring lintel
#

When I found out that seagull wansnt the best genji in the world I was devastated

pine star
#

With people bitching on people to get that mod role

toxic yacht
#

as it is it's basically "everything except if someone is hot"

#

which makes no sense

solid spear
#

I've respected so many rules today ๐Ÿ™‚

spring lintel
#

Fuck rules

toxic yacht
#

because it's defined as off topic

#

lol

pine star
#

@spring lintel we all were there feelsbad

spring lintel
#

And then ๐Ÿ”จ

#

?

solid spear
#

Implying you want to have sexual relations with the rules?

spring lintel
#

Lets talk esport

#

Dafran is good

pine star
#

Yeah

wheat karma
#

By brining up the rules to try to point out you'll catch anyone taking it off topic, you went off topic.

toxic yacht
#

Dafran is good, but I'm not ready to call him a king god yet

solid spear
#

I am

pine star
#

Dafran still needs to test himself against the top

solid spear
#

Dadfran

rapid oxide
spring lintel
#

I saw the mod talking and I changed the subject ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘Œ

turbid slate
#

I think dafran is pretty bad

toxic yacht
#

dafran has been stomping t2 NA teams

#

and doing well vs rogue

#

that's it

gentle crane
#

Can someone explain to me the story of IDDQD and Harbleu joining NRG

toxic yacht
#

they got tried and joined

spring lintel
#

They are fucking awesome dude

toxic yacht
#

the end

solid spear
#

I mean they were basically recruited

#

That's really it

spring lintel
#

Harb is 100% hog

solid spear
#

No special story

gentle crane
#

what happened to their old team?

pine star
#

Don't forget Zarya

gentle crane
#

they just left?

toxic yacht
#

harb left

pine star
#

He's a god zarya

toxic yacht
#

iddqd was benched

spring lintel
#

I am still skeptical about numlocked

gentle crane
#

I remembered harb saying he would never leave nich and TORK

spring lintel
#

I wish they had kaiser, miro or ever super.

#

I dunno about numlocked

gentle crane
#

why was iddqd benched and who was the replacement?

toxic yacht
#

numlocked is really good

solid spear
#

Based on Dummys montages lol see Harb mostly on Zarya, Hog with occasional Tracer

pine star
#

Pros saying they will never leave ___ drakeLUL

toxic yacht
#

iddqd was replaced by...

#

hafficool

solid spear
#

Haffi

#

Lul

toxic yacht
#

we don't know why idd was benched

spring lintel
#

Like numlocked doesnt have any rep

toxic yacht
#

but probably personailty differences

solid spear
#

Most likely

spring lintel
#

No videos, nothing

pine star
#

Toxicity

toxic yacht
#

numlocked has a ton of rep...

pine star
#

๐Ÿค”

toxic yacht
#

has been on top EU teams since beta

gentle crane
#

iddqd doesnt seem ragey

#

to me

toxic yacht
#

very good tank

balmy wolf
#

Numlocked is a top tier rein

#

like what

gentle crane
#

but it could always be an act

spring lintel
#

Iddqd seems chill until you fuck with him

solid spear
#

Well personality differences doesn't have to be straight raging

gentle crane
#

my reply was to DMcsullvian

toxic yacht
#

num definitely has more rep than ajax, kek

solid spear
#

We don't know were not in coms

pine star
#

He'll fit well with toxic Dummy

spring lintel
#

Is dummy toxic?

gentle crane
#

surefour has no rep

#

but hes doing fine

balmy wolf
#

wut

toxic yacht
#

surefour has no rep?

#

wut

balmy wolf
#

Surefour no rep?

gentle crane
#

caught

toxic yacht
#

literally wut

solid spear
#

Hello?

gentle crane
#

hacking

pine star
#

And everyone meshes well with good guy Seagull

toxic yacht
#

????

balmy wolf
#

do you even watch pro overwatch

toxic yacht
#

caught????

forest raven
#

Surefour's regarded as one of the best players in the game

gentle crane
#

or he has reputation

solid spear
#

Surefour is like actually a god

gentle crane
#

just not good reputation

spring lintel
#

Surefour has an insane rep from the WC

balmy wolf
#

what in the world are you on about

gentle crane
#

he was caught hacking in titanfall

toxic yacht
#

surefour has a reputation as one of the best players in teh game

#

he wasn*t caught

#

lmao

gentle crane
#

and someone or him in dirty bomb

toxic yacht
#

I can show you the titanfall video

forest raven
#

You mean Surelock?

toxic yacht
#

I used to play titanfall

forest raven
solid spear
#

He's one of the best dps in the world

toxic yacht
#

so yes, I'm familiar with that video

gentle crane
#

I agree hes good

balmy wolf
solid spear
#

And any allegations are unproven

forest raven
gentle crane
#

they will remain

pine star
gentle crane
#

unproven

toxic yacht
#

even the titanfall allegations are just that

#

allegations

gentle crane
#

just like counter strike

spring lintel
#

I remember when draw was a peasant like us

pine star
#

What's he talking about lol

spring lintel
#

Times do change a lot

toxic yacht
#

surefour aimed at someone whom he saw jumping from a corner

balmy wolf
#

Nah nah I totally forgot @toxic yacht

gentle crane
#

they wont ban a pro

#

on the spot

balmy wolf
#

aimer7 said he's fearlessly hacking

#

so it has to be true

toxic yacht
#

oh yeah

#

I forgot

#

yeah man

forest raven
#

They won't ban Surefour because he's not hacking lol

solid spear
#

Only thing hurting s4 rep is that weeb

balmy wolf
#

because aimer7's word is god

toxic yacht
#

ah, back when draw didn't have opinions yet

gentle crane
#

Im not saying surefour is hacking overwatch

toxic yacht
#

and asked us about how everythign in the scene worked

#

how the times have changed

#

they grow so fast

forest raven
balmy wolf
solid spear
#

:^)

gentle crane
#

but from what Ive seen he has hacked before

#

in other games

forest raven
#

You sure you're not thinking of the Tork bros or Babybay

toxic yacht
#

he got 2 allegations

#

in titanfall

#

and dirty bomb

#

titanfall was not hacking, lul

pine star
#

TJO bros*

forest raven
#

Oh yeah lol

toxic yacht
#

dunno about the dirty bomb one

vestal mortar
forest raven
toxic yacht
#

and yes, pros get banned on the spot

#

if they're caught cheating

gentle crane
#

no they wont

#

except unless its automated

#

then they will

vestal mortar
#

What's with all these hacking accusations today?

toxic yacht
#

????

#

so if surefour is 100% caught hacking

#

they'll let him play

#

ok

gentle crane
#

He wont ever do that

#

obviously

#

but if he is hacking and hiding it

#

but its sus

vestal mortar
pine star
gentle crane
#

they wont stop him

toxic yacht
gentle crane
#

from playing in a tourney

toxic yacht
#

are you aimer?

solid spear
#

Do we have to talk about this lol this is baseless

toxic yacht
#

surefour had hackusations, like every other good hitscan player

#

spectator confirmed unreliable

#

no concrete proof

#

end of story

#

innocent until proven guilty

gentle crane
#

I agree

#

with that

#

But same goes with the tf2 players caught hacking

#

lots of the snipers were using the same code

#

LMAObox

#

tonnes of them got banned

#

when the source code came out

#

good read

vestal mortar
#

I don't believe Surefour is a hacker ๐Ÿ‘€

#

He's Canadian, too nice to be a hacker

solid spear
#

Tara hacks confirmed? ๐Ÿ‘€

gentle crane
#

I dont believe he actively hacks

#

but I think he has used them

#

at some point or the other

spring lintel
#

Omfg he surefour is so good

#

But he is not a hacker dude

gentle crane
#

hes obviously a good player

pine star
#

Tara hacks AND is toxic ๐Ÿ‘€

spring lintel
#

It's obvious

gentle crane
#

and can play great

#

without hacks

#

same for any pro

spring lintel
#

Hacks can help u tbh

gentle crane
#

but hacks do give you the edge

spring lintel
#

Like if you hack you can know how to aim

#

At least I think

#

Never tried it tho

vestal mortar
gentle crane
#

and when there is money on the line

#

its something thats beneficial

spring lintel
#

He doesnt need hacks

#

He already has a rep

gentle crane
#

Im saying he as a suspicious reputation

spring lintel
#

But if you guys notice all of them play with at least 200fps

gentle crane
#

same as about 20%

#

of the regular players

#

including me

spring lintel
#

I wish I can do that

#

Mccree is so hard with less than 200fps

gentle crane
#

its just that alot of players in counter strike are hackers

#

and have hacked

#

including pros streamers and etc,

forest raven
#

Surefour didn't come from CS so what's your point

gentle crane
#

its like any fps

pine star
#

The TJO bros come from CS right?

gentle crane
#

or any games