Just because he hasn't played professionally in like fucking forever
#esports-discussion
pine star
solid spear
present for WC
pine star
Well that's true
solid spear
but hell make it
balmy wolf
Last year he was guaranteed a spot because of his popularity
But now it isnt a popularity contest
solid spear
yeah
solid spear
idk who comes to mind besides those 4
balmy wolf
idk what its gonna be but it will be good
pine star
Harbleu as off-tank pls
balmy wolf
You're forgetting supports
solid spear
oh not at all
I was just talking dps for the time being
but Adam, Rob420, Shake, Dummy etc
good options
pine star
Dummy is the best Ana
forest raven
Who's the best shotcaller in the US?
pine star
That's just a fact
solid spear
idk Shake is wild
pine star
Shake is not as good as Ana
forest raven
Eh, the only reason coL is relevant anymore is because of Shake, imo
forest raven
All we've seen of Dummy since Vegas are highlights
balmy wolf
Avast and Aythen have a better chance imo
forest raven
The only thing I've heard about American shotcallers is how good Ajax is
solid spear
than Dummy?
pine star
Verbo is apparently a really good shotcaller too
balmy wolf
Rapha aswell
solid spear
theres hoonestly lots of quality support players
pine star
Oh yeah, Rapha exists
solid spear
to pick from for US
pine star
Too bad he thinks he's playing Genji when playing Lucio
he things
The fuck is happening to my english today
solid spear
Canada actually has some good players too
forest raven
Seagull plays a better Genji and Pharah than Jake, imo
pine star
Who's the best main tank in US?
I honestly can only think of MESR
All the others that come to mind are not americans
balmy wolf
MESR is still probably the best choice
Havent seen Milo play in a good while but he was a good rein aswell
forest raven
Fact Fiction
pine star
Is he american?
forest raven
Yep
pine star
That's a solid option actually
balmy wolf
Totally forgot he was american lul
forest raven
Kresnik
pine star
lol
There's so many non-american players in US that you just forget the ones that are american
balmy wolf
Best picks for main tank are probably MESR and FCTFCTN
pine star
He's midtier now
forest raven
Denmark has Dafran, Fischer, Sypeh, Zaprey and most of the SNG Ninjas roster to pick from
They're probably gonna go far
solid spear
Dafrag 
pine star
That's a lot of dps 
pine star
I wonder if Blizzard is gonna limit the amount of players from the same team
balmy wolf
They really are jam packed with DPS though
forest raven
I hope not
pine star
I actually hope they do
forest raven
Australia needs the full FG roster to do anything
solid spear
Canada actually has S4, Agilities, Verbo, xqc, Train, Mangachu, and Roolf
pine star
...that's a good point
solid spear
more talent than I thought
forest raven
Surefour and Agilities as dps, xQc as main tank, Verbo as shotcaller, Roolf as flex support and Train as off tank
pine star
Solid squad
balmy wolf
Mangachu and ID too
solid spear
rip Mangachu again 
balmy wolf
And Nicolas
solid spear
AZK as well actually
pine star
So many freaking players
solid spear
this is why its good were not voting again
pine star
Yeah lol
solid spear
how the hell did Poke make this team
pine star
Speaking of voting
solid spear
I know its dumb lol
solid spear
idk whoever it is I trust them over fans
pine star
Probably Flame
balmy wolf
idk whos good for any committee
pine star
lol
solid spear
just get my boys Jake and Harb in and we good!
forest raven
Honestly I'd say Seagull
pine star
I just want Harb tbh
forest raven
For the committee
pine star
That's not that crazy
He's actually a really good analyst
I would like to see him on a desk
forest raven
Jake can play Genji and Pharah, even if Seagull is better than him imo
forest raven
18/19th April (IIRC)
pine star
The world deserves more Seagull's nanobastion
balmy wolf
Yeah well they confirmed they were going to be in the last Melee aswell
and pulled out last second so
forest raven
pine star
tfw "This product is without nickname customisability!" for NRG jerseys 
pine star
Atleast for LGE jerseys you can select the player name from a dropdown
For NRG's you can't do even that
clever wagon
Basic merchandising knowledge 
clever wagon
Saw that, don't understand what's "avi"
forest raven
clever wagon
tfw u just remembered that u can't open reddit anymore with just Google DNS
Bishop's "Korean friends"
Pls we all know he pulled strings in the dark
But Mendo not around 
who's gonna fill in C9's resident and core weeb role, And no Ryb for C9's beard
Also this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/63j96g/c9_roster_for_razor_arena_tournament/dfukzy2/
balmy wolf
@clever wagon Avi means available
at least in the way that 2easy is using it
Who the hell are these people btw
forest raven
I think they're Korean players
balmy wolf
2 korean players 
forest raven
@clever wagon Mate, I literally just posted that thread
toxic yacht
Man, I watched LGE vs Selfless a few hours ago. As someone who missed the entirety of Carbon, I must say that LGE are really fucking good
Jake is kinda insane and Dafran apparently is a fucking god and can literally consistently 1v2 a pharmercy as a lone Pharah + literally causes the entire team to fall apart if he dies. Like, c'mon, even FaZe does better when SDB is dead
clever wagon
is happy inside reading his favorite team getting praise
clever wagon
Man these open mics are great fun lolol https://youtu.be/Xtho-2Xni70?t=262
clever wagon
I'm not even gonna judge because Stitch is nr.1 KR qt
vestal mortar
π€
pine star
He actually kind of looks like Stitch from Lilo & Stitch
rapid oxide
Give me LCK Intro and i will die in peace
rapid oxide
pine star
What a glorious profile picture
balmy wolf
WOW
toxic yacht
tfw you're now coaching your old rivals
balmy wolf
rip kyky's zarya
pine star
@balmy wolf
balmy wolf
vestal mortar
Awwww
hybrid quarry
overwatch hyped series!!!! go watch!
outer sonnet
Overwatch Hyped Series League will start guys | with 12 Portguese Teams, 6 Teams Per Division π
Come and watch Guys π
rapid oxide
@everyone I'm happy to announce groups for the April Overwatch :Alienware: Monthly Melee. Now that invites are handled I will begin rolling out qualifier invites in the next couple days.
Group A (5pm EST start time April 15):
- Selfless
- NRG
- IMT
- LB Winner - Quals
Group B:
- Rogue
- LG Evil
- Meta Athena
- WB Winner - Quals
Furthermore, I will also be announcing the map drafting process for this event in the coming days. Let me know if you have any questions.
limber pine
@rapid oxide Everyone pings don't work for normal users
solid spear
he copied and pasted
raven current
When are the apex finals? I want to see lunatic hai play again. I wish they did more than apex :/
limber pine
ah k
Group stages for 
Alienware Monthly Melee April
Group A (5pm EST start time April 15):
πΊπΈ 
Selfess Gaming
πΊπΈ 
NRG Esports
πΊπΈ 
Immortals
LB Winner - Quals
Group B:
π«π· 
Rogue
πΊπΈ 
Luminosity Gaming Evil
π°π· 
Meta Athena
WB Winner - Quals
^that's the OW's
my b
rapid oxide
im not in ow :'c
limber pine
feelsbad
limber pine
vestal mortar
I am so hyped 
toxic yacht
Let's hope that NRG doesn't pull out this time π
vestal mortar
They're all in NA now so hopefully not!
toxic yacht
ShaDowBurn vs Shadder2k
vestal mortar
pine star
HarryHook's Soldier vs Dafran's 
balmy wolf
jfc Tempo throwing hard
balmy wolf
Up until there, tempo threw every fight
that hook
does anyone here know "Osiris", the guy who is apoarently "hacking"?
Never heard of him
taimou reported him on stream to a blizz dev
yet kephrii says hes a good
i expected it to be the other way around
pine star
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
shell rain
#DramaAlert
balmy wolf
That isnt really esports anyway
shell rain
True
pine star
That was 100% a missplaced nano
balmy wolf
By who
balmy wolf
He did?
pine star
I'm absolutely sure he was going to nano Shadder
balmy wolf
Wow he got it back fast, when ID died he had 65%
pine star
Didn't Tempo had some aussie players?
balmy wolf
That's their AUS squad
digital pond
"Hey ID you should swap they got a Widow"
"lol no"
pine star
Fat fingers
balmy wolf
Fuck ID
Switch Pharah
ffs
HES STILL RUNNING IT
ON RUINS
fucking thank christ
if he ran it on ruins again
idek
hm ID switching pharah and they stomp
hmmm
mellow lance
wintry matrix
how does YGGP looks?
balmy wolf
Bad
They were looking really good with HarryButcher and Silkthread
But they were just ringing
Their actual roster is pretty shit
wintry matrix
welp
toxic yacht
Can't wait for you to change your name to POOlo
balmy wolf
Already happened pal
rotund abyss
According to rumors ShaDowBurn is free agent
balmy wolf
Rumours from where
rotund abyss
Russian friend
solid spear
Reliable
rapid oxide
toxic yacht
Oh shit it's dad
vestal mortar
π
pine star
For some reason I hope it's true that SDB is a free agent
Also
"I met meat before a met Esca" 
vestal mortar
Esca vs Meat lmao
queen cypress
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
gentle shuttle
"I need to watch some overwatch today"
Rogue vs FaZe later on
aww yisss
so weird seeing the US flag next to Rogue's name
gentle shuttle
eh i like both teams
rapid oxide
Fair enough
solid spear
Anox ;_;
gentle shuttle
what's the OPC? https://twitter.com/JetSetJamerson/status/850009756924342276
digital pond
God that's a lot of games.
rapid oxide
balmy wolf
oh that thing
gentle shuttle
echofox, team secret, rise nation, mouse esports and now misfits
it's happening π
balmy wolf
What
gentle shuttle
and e-league
balmy wolf
I dont get it
solid spear
Zoro they don't understand lul
balmy wolf
solid spear
Polo I'm sorru
rapid oxide
Fighting game are getting lofs of org
solid spear
They've always had a lot
gentle shuttle
not like this though
solid spear
Tbh
rapid oxide
I dont enjoy Fighting game honestly
gentle shuttle
seems this is finally the year that it goes full eat sports
fairs, it's a niche scene
balmy wolf
This is overwatch esports discussion though 
rapid oxide
As Overwatch is
gentle shuttle
you rite, it's just weird to see names like Misfits there now
solid spear
I mean LG, C9, EG, TSM, CLG etc have had players for years
rapid oxide
Polo being nazi as usual
solid spear
You're seeing a few more jump on
rapid oxide
XD
gentle shuttle
that's smash tho, it's kind of it's own entity
solid spear
But it's always been well supported
rapid oxide
But hes right guys
gentle shuttle
well not EG
solid spear
Yeah I guess maybe I'm thinking Smash too much
gentle shuttle
just killing time i guess
rapid oxide
Lets ow here :p
rapid oxide
Rogue Faze when?
solid spear
Yeah I can always talk to you about this in gen...actually nvm
gentle shuttle
1h 11mins
rapid oxide
Why the fuck i live in eu smh
solid spear
Play persona 5 or watch Faze get bodied? Decisions
balmy wolf
I just want to see Rogue play
rapid oxide
Overwatch is full of weabs π€
Im too poor to afford games so i stick with Overwatch
solid spear
I need money for a pc for OW though :/
gentle shuttle
riiiiiite
gentle shuttle
i'm only into GiTS and stuff. I'm a high-tier weeb. It's different
solid spear
but yeah I need to play on a real pc eventually especially if I want to get to masters+ soon
rapid oxide
One of my friend told me "dude, i bought a laptop, lets climp ladder"
I facepalmed hard
solid spear
I mean Ive studied weebs for (checks birthday) 18 years
rapid oxide
Indeed he's plat
solid spear
I know much about your kind
I mean
its not impossible
I get 60-70 fps
it works
but I want to upgrade obviously
solid spear
Im a pretty filthy weeb in all honesty
rapid oxide
Yeah it works but its well known laptop are trash if u wanna play competive games
solid spear
like have figurines and a pillow filthy
and I know but money rip
and does Rogue play twice tonight?
rapid oxide
1h
rapid oxide
Oh twice
solid spear
oh typo my bad
solid spear
just vote in Rogue
rapid oxide
Lol sure, people will drop rogue+rogue coach for u
solid spear
dont even make it complicated
rapid oxide
Ps: hammer coach btw
French have easy choice
My bet is french vs Korea in finals
3rd misfits (swe) 4th nip (finland)
Good runners usa, russia, spain (maybe) denmark (maybe)
solid spear
uh
Sweden has players like IDD, Cocco, Chips, Mendo etc that will be given a shot to make the roster
and Taimou, Linkzr, Ube, Tseini for Finland
its not exactly like France where putting in Rogue would honestly straight up be the best choice even with guys like kryw
solid spear
I would hope most committees are aiming for the former
we kinda got the latter last year
balmy wolf
Yeah :/
gentle shuttle
hopefully we get Kyb, Kruise and Valkyia (sp?) reppin' us this year π
gentle shuttle
why wussup
wheat karma
This guy hates him
wheat karma
polo never said Β―_(γ)_/Β―
gentle shuttle
just polo things then, i c π·
balmy wolf
I played a game against him on Volskaya, he got carried to a draw
And I'm not saying he shouldnt be on Team UK because I dont like him
He just isnt good enough
raven current
Who do you guys think will win apex on Saturday?
wheat karma
Better than sty
balmy wolf
I'd much prefer Kruise and Kyb if we're going for a full tryhard team
wheat karma
But my point is, I don't want sty on our team
balmy wolf
Much better players, much wider hero pools
wheat karma
even though that will happen
balmy wolf
Not just a good Pharah and an okay mccree
wheat karma
Oh yeah
I understand that completely
Guess we gotta wait for the votes to see who signs up though
might be like last year
where someone
forgets to accept it
not naming any names
wheat karma
Zoro got it
wheat karma
Yes
gentle shuttle
he got the email
balmy wolf
come on kyb
wheat karma
He forget to accept it
gentle shuttle
and forgot about it lmfao
wheat karma
like a tool
gentle shuttle
tho tbh i think he might've just had doubts about going
balmy wolf
Still better than France though
Team France was the definition of Popularity Contest
wheat karma
His knowledge is
yes
his aiming and other minor things aren't
allowing him to climb to masters
wheat karma
@gentle shuttle I'm mid gold right now, low plat most.
I just know the game
but can't execute my knowledge
because I'm shit at games
balmy wolf
I'm shit at the game too
gentle shuttle
@wheat karma :'C
balmy wolf
I just get carried
gentle shuttle
i just zarya and hope everyone groups up n stuff....idk :'C
wheat karma
I can play quite a few characters
I'm just not specialty on anyone because I don't play enough
but either way
back to esports!
vestal mortar
esports!
balmy wolf
I just want to vote for our stupid committees already
I dont think since this qualification process started that any country's average has gone up or down by more than 5 points
wheat karma
Right I'm so out of this so you're gonna have to explain here
solid spear
well Polo I think theyre just letting that 30-40 range settle
and it should be in a week or two anyway
balmy wolf
Basically just this https://worldcup.playoverwatch.com/en-gb/ @wheat karma
Top 32 countries are chosen for qualifiers
The committees are voted on by the population
The committees then choose the players
and then the group stage starts
gentle shuttle
eat-sports
wheat karma
So committees = the players then pretty much?
balmy wolf
Ye
gentle shuttle
Praise Be
solid spear
Sty has no business being onthe team lol
gentle shuttle
lolol damn
solid spear
I mean yall have Realzx, Kruise, Kyb, Sharyk (I think?), Numlocked, Mikeya etc
no reason he makes it again
balmy wolf
Sev and ChrisTFer aswell
solid spear
well Id assume theyd take Numlocked over him as a main tank no?
balmy wolf
Yeah they could but he showed a lot of potential so you never know
solid spear
I just want all teams to send the best possible talent or close to it this time around
gentle shuttle
yeah exactly
wheat karma
UK esports ain't no 
fest anymore!
he says hoping in the corner still shaken from the UK CS scene
rapid oxide
I've no hope for Italy as usual π€·
gentle shuttle
lol ow 
wheat karma
@wintry thunder If you want to advertise your tournaments, contact modmail on the side there.
We will most likely put it in #tournaments
wintry thunder
wheat karma
No problems!
gentle shuttle
haiyo
not sure π€
i figured these guys would've all been in a team house by now
i'm guessing he's still playing from Russia tho
past oar
yea, I guess
looks like Rogue has picked up something from Selfless
these aggressive spawn camping are real
gentle shuttle
Knoxxx and Winz switched roles?
past oar
wth is this attack comp from faze?
gentle shuttle
@balmy wolf i always fall asleep :C
balmy wolf
Yeah never take the attack comp as the one they are going to go with
If the gates arent open
balmy wolf
Thats absurd lol
Even without 2easy they have one of the best NA Dives
LOL
THAT HOLD
past oar
you mean Faze?
balmy wolf
Yes, 2easy was never on rogue
wtf is this positioning
they went all the way behind instead of getting free push
???
balmy wolf
Pretty good yeah but into aKm's 76 is risky
past oar
good point
balmy wolf
Especially with discord
past oar
this tripple tank comp has no pressure tho
specially with so much vertical space on defense
they kinda lost on the comp choice imo
balmy wolf
They wouldnt have won anyway really
past oar
it wasn't a good shot, I mean
going uphill on eichen with 4 immobile heroes, with defense deciding when to fight isn't really smart
gentle shuttle
shadow on widow???
past oar
I don't understand why they keep avoiding the genji pick
median coyote
what even was that sleep on the flying nanovisor
iron cedar
clip pls
past oar
mid air
past oar
getting bodied by knoxx tho
median coyote
AKM has actually been feeling pretty underwhelming in these midair duels
balmy wolf
Yeah his Pharah hasn't been the best
I feel they would win this a lot easier running Zen and 76
or Zen McCree 
median coyote
agreed. both teams are more or less dedicating 2 players to their own little Pharmercy duel as most of the real battle continues on below them
well, Faze almost took a map
gaunt dirge
This games shit tier lag camp will make the Esports scene never get out of being a fucking joke
past oar
FaZe looked really lost
gaunt dirge
pro tracers must fucking hate it
balmy wolf
wha
gaunt dirge
blinking clientside and then being told youre dead
past oar
so much hero swaping
balmy wolf
That doesnt really happen very often though
gaunt dirge
it happens every single game on tracer
median coyote
@gaunt dirge it happens but it's mostly gonna be an issue at online tournaments and most esports scenes don't take those very seriously
past oar
^ this
gaunt dirge
so normal online comp is just fucked then
median coyote
143 tick servers like at the World Cup should make this less an issue at LANs too
gaunt dirge
neat/
balmy wolf
Every game has problems like that
median coyote
Also, @past oar the comps were definitely all over the place by the end. Don't think they quite knew how to handle Rogue most of the time
gaunt dirge
CSgo doesnt have those problems/
median coyote
uh, yes it does. it's called peekers advantage, it's present in many FPS. Lag compensation always has some sort of issue
it probably feels more potent in this game to many people just because of all the abilities and their interplay. it makes things more obvious than in a traditional shooter
balmy wolf
Going by Tempo's performance recently, this should be closer @past oar
gaunt dirge
well its not nearly as bad as in this game.
past oar
awesome!
gaunt dirge
its fucking atrocious in this game, espec when playing heroes like tracer or mei
balmy wolf
There are also times where you shoot at someone in cs and the shot just doesnt register
I had that happen to me too many times
gaunt dirge
yea thats a different issue
solid spear
60
rapid oxide
Dude i said lan
gaunt dirge
fuck lan
rapid oxide
Average tick pub is 64 lmao
gaunt dirge
that shit is sad
rapid oxide
Csgo is 64 too
gaunt dirge
Blizz is a major fucking let down with this games comp
median coyote
feels like Rogue doing surprising amount of spawn camping tonight. they did some on eichenwalde too
median coyote
but that basically turned into a free streets phase this time
rapid oxide
Who won btw ?
median coyote
Rogue thought they had that hold in the bag right there. Mini got them a bunch of extra distance with that earthshatter
past oar
why is mccree so rarely picked these days?
balmy wolf
76 is just better
past oar
vs tracer/genji?
balmy wolf
Yep
median coyote
he's individually great against Tracer and Genji, but he can't survive a dive like 76 can
past oar
thought he was the answer
median coyote
can't run, can't self heal
past oar
yea, I see
past oar
AKM's McCree is one of the best i've seen
median coyote
I mean, I'd still rather have McCree in a straight 1v1 with those flankers, but he's not as good elsewhere
jovial eagle
if you can headshot 50% of the time as mccree
past oar
he actually played him vs Sinatraa
jovial eagle
then he's better
balmy wolf
Yep
median coyote
yeah, probably. it's that tracking vs flick aim
past oar
his impact on him was insane
compared to Dafran's Soldier
Akm has less of an impact on Soldier
median coyote
finally they have more people on the cart
they had 1 person pushing for so long that it took longer than it had to
past oar
throws
balmy wolf
Of course you do
median coyote
OK, NOW EVERYONE SWAP POSITIONS
median coyote
high ground vs the dive comp is def questionable. maybe they have more trust in dreamkazper's ability?
obviously they think its important somehow but it doesnt make sense to me
jovial eagle
shouldn't hog hook disrupt dive ?
past oar
vs a dive comp you clearly don't decide when you engage, specially going uphill with the dive on high ground
you must run dive as well
or you lose
median coyote
hog can individually handle any of the 3 divers but that's just not enough, even assuming he hits a good hook
past oar
I'm talking about Eichenwald point B
balmy wolf
D.Va and Hog are good against Dive
Hog is just worse because longer CD on hook
and D.Va is worse because less armour
median coyote
heh, they're talking McCree vs 76 same as we were
past oar
my point is, since you're defending as dive with high ground advantage all the time, you can just wait on the hook to engage
because the attack can't engage at all with triple tank
median coyote
well, you still need to at least fake an engage to bait out that hook
balmy wolf
Yeah but if you miss the hook the Road is basically dead
past oar
exactly
balmy wolf
And thats even worse now with longer CD
median coyote
that was super questionable. guess Cosi thought he was gonna get staggered?
past oar
i mean, Rogue is clearly the better team here
median coyote
yeah, pretty much
past oar
but i doubt that comp would work either on a closer matchup
have we seen selfless on eichenwald on overwatchpit?
don't think so aye?
median coyote
just looked at the match results and it looks like no
past oar
yea, since they always run the same comp
that wouldn't be a good map for them
cause of the Rein
they always play Rein, no matter what
i mean, you just watched Rogue almost full hold FaZe on Eichenwald with FaZe running tripple tanks, why you would pick Eichenwald?
median coyote
overconfidence
past oar
seems kinda stupid tbh
i would've gone control
Nepal or Illios, w/e
anything but eichen
median coyote
alright, so now we've got a stomp yeah?
median coyote
what a great way to close off the night
past oar
well, tomorrow we can have higher hopes
Liquid vs Rogue is gonna be interesting, to say the least
median coyote
apex finals are tomorrow too, right? or is that saturday
past oar
saturday
median coyote
damn. can't wait
median coyote
that would probably be my ideal, yeah
close maps either way and I'll be happy as a spectator
past oar
yep
hopefully Esca won't tilt that hard
and Runaway will win in a close series
i don't wanna see a stomp
median coyote
hopefully runaway keep their nerve too
LH way more experienced with going to finals
(also more experienced with losing finals kek)
past oar
have you watched the open mic video of lh vs runaway in the group stage?
esca tilts pretty hard, man
booth going completely silent when runaway draws the matchup
he as a leader goes completely off, non-vocal at all
Runner is pretty good at keeping the team motivated at all times
specially Kaiser
median coyote
sounds like even more reason LH needs to replace Esca
past oar
apparently they don't replace people
there's a post on reddit saying they are getting a sub for season 3
i think that's the way to go tho
median coyote
supposedly they're looking for a flex yeah?
past oar
i guess so
median coyote
I wonder if they'd actually be switching Esca. WE'll have to see come S3
past oar
he's the oldest in the team, players have a lot of trust on him. i don't see him getting replaced at all
spring lintel
Rogue won all of their games right?
median coyote
Yes
past oar
yes they did
spring lintel
Were they all 2-0?
past oar
yep
balmy wolf
yes
median coyote
Yes
spring lintel
Lol
spring lintel
I was expecting it
balmy wolf
Im expecting Liquid to take a map and then for Rogue to not lose a map till they play Envy in Rivalcade
past oar
don't think that's gonna happen, Polo
EnVy doesn't play dive, right?
they still stuck with those tank comps bs?
balmy wolf
We haven't seen a team with the same mechanical skill as Rogue play them yet
They've all been a lot worse
Whereas Envy is very good mechanically
I'm still expecting Rogue to win, but I'd say it will be close
past oar
but nobody in EnVy plays projectile DPS
that's a huge plus for Rogue in this meta
and yes, close definitely
can't really count EnVy out
balmy wolf
3rd
spring lintel
Oh
past oar
we see all these genjis like Whoru, Haksal, Shadowburn, Nico, ...
then you look at Envy
lol
balmy wolf
They have Mickie
spring lintel
Lol
spring lintel
They need an actual genji main
balmy wolf
And he will be playing Genji for Envy
balmy wolf
yep
past oar
if that happens, awesome
median coyote
He's been practicing Genji on stream
past oar
i hope he gets good fast
past oar
because these genjis are freaking disgusting
spring lintel
That nano was stupid as fuck
balmy wolf
Except Silkthread who isn't going pro
past oar
they could take anyone, man
they're a better organization
at least 1 of these genjis would taket he swap
if they were willing to commit to recruit one
balmy wolf
Players can't just up and leave
And most don't want to
If an org wants a player thats already signed, they need to wait out the contract or buyout the contract
past oar
there might be a gap after the tourney at the end of the month
balmy wolf
What do you mean a gap
spring lintel
They need someone like dafran
past oar
no tourneys till OW League
spring lintel
The best Dps in the game
past oar
could be a good time to recruit someone for the position
you crazy?
Harry is a lot better than Dafran, man
balmy wolf
Theres a lot of tournies happening though
past oar
lol
past oar
oh, totally forgot about APAC
spring lintel
Did you see dafran? He can play every dps on a pro lvl
spring lintel
His soldier is so good
median coyote
Montie said something about a possible APEX S3 soon enough
past oar
would be crazy if we get s3 right away
best Soldier = Harryhook
best Tracer = Saebeolby
best McCree = Akm
best Genji = Whoru
past oar
i still think saebe is better
Saeb carried the series vs LH
in the IEM Finals
anyone excited to watch NRG get bodied at Rivalcode?
cade*
past oar
what? you gon say iddqd?
spring lintel
Best genji = whoru, haksal and shadowburn
past oar
that's a close one
balmy wolf
All of them are close
spring lintel
Yeah
past oar
Sinatraa is not good comparede to these guys, man
spring lintel
Miro on winston yeah
balmy wolf
Not undisputed yet
past oar
hmm, he had great moments
spring lintel
Who is his competitor?
past oar
but don't forget he tilted pretty hard
was inconsistent troughout the series
till he pulled of a 5 man earth shatter
balmy wolf
He has outplayed every Rein up to this point except Miro
spring lintel
^
past oar
he's outstanding, that's for sure
best D.Va
Mickie
undisputed
Evermore, best Hog, undisputed
there are some pretty insane players on some heroes, man
balmy wolf
ehh idk about that
past oar
definitely
balmy wolf
Mickie I'd agree with though
past oar
Evermore literally carried alone
median coyote
too many good Hogs, man
past oar
the series vs LW
median coyote
same with McCree - don't think we can give anyone an "undisputed best" title
past oar
but you're the best when you're so good that you can have the highest impact possible in a series, right?
carrying a game by yourself?
balmy wolf
SoOn has done that so he's best tracer undisputed right?
median coyote
^
past oar
vs who?
depends on who you're playing against
if you're playing against outstanding teams, then yea
probably
median coyote
You're undisputed best when you do things consistently on a next level compared to all others
past oar
exactly
median coyote
tier 1 != undisputed best
past oar
all these players do that