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pine star
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RIP coL

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I still can't believe LGE lost to fucking Rise

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What even is this

balmy wolf
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As I've said before

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They're

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😎

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on the rise

pine star
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Get out

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My thoughts exactly lol

still temple
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what chat is this

pine star
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Professional chef discussion

gentle shuttle
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did something happen to Envy's roster

pine star
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@gentle shuttle what do you mean?

gentle shuttle
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@pine star people talking about different roles for the members in Shadowburn's chat

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lol he queued against Jake

pine star
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No idea

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But I'm glad if it's true

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They need to expand their hero pools

digital pond
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They already swapped roles before so it wouldn't be surprising.

pine star
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Holy shit Dafran

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And I thought Harryhook was good

gentle shuttle
silk linden
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this is my first time seeing shadowburn. So far, I don't see thise huge abyss between him and the likes of Shadder and Seagull

pine star
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Ping

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That's the abyss

silk linden
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also what's with pro genjis and the letter S

pine star
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Slice

silk linden
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shrugger

pine star
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They all be slicing around

silk linden
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what I mean is, from what I heard about him, I was expecting his technique to be unique, to be the cutting edge (ehe) of Genji play, but I don't see him doing anything radically different

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he just looks like a really good genji player to me

pine star
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Yeah well

silk linden
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granted, I've yet to see a full pro match of his

pine star
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You could say he was kind of a pioneer

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And now everyone does what he does in some form

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Kinda

silk linden
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any specific examples?

pine star
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Wasn't he the one that popularized the dash into the air + dragonblade?

silk linden
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you tell me

gentle shuttle
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i'll link some stuff

pine star
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Go ahead

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I'm just saying from what I've heard lol, I'm not really sure

gentle shuttle
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but yeah as for ledge-boosting, i think that was the case

silk linden
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I'm not trying to go against this public perception of his btw, I just want to understand

pine star
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Yeah I know

gentle shuttle
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we know no worries c:

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his pharah air shots are something else too

pine star
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It's really hard right now to measure his skill and were he stands against other Genji mains just because of how high his ping is in Russia

silk linden
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do you think he doesn't attempt things that are too out of the ordinary when he's on such a bad ping

pine star
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Oh yeah

silk linden
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lel team USA

pine star
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He also has one of the best reflexes to deflect stuff

balmy wolf
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sdb was never very different from other genji mains playstyle wise

silk linden
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good play though, how he turned around to slice star coming out of spawn

balmy wolf
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Like he didnt have any unorthodox strats that others didnt use

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He was just a step above

gentle shuttle
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the stand out things are being able to get tripples/quads without ult, highest gravition deflect rates, shuriken accuracy

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and yeah the reflexes

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pretty much

pine star
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@balmy wolf you know more about Genjis than I do. Was he really the one that popularized the dash into the air + dragonblade?

gentle shuttle
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this should be pretty easy since i've been specifically watching a lot of his shit the last 4 days or so

silk linden
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one thing I'm seeing is, usually genjis bounce around a lot as a mechanism for self defense, they're very erratic. He instead just b-lines from target to target, he's very methodic

balmy wolf
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The only thing that stands out to me about sdb compared to all the other good genji players is his accuracy with shurikens and ability to kill without ult with ease

silk linden
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he's surgical

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every movement is calculated

balmy wolf
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If you want to see surgical, you should watch Necros lol

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Dude's disgusting

silk linden
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at what hero?

balmy wolf
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Don't think so @pine star

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I believe that was just picked up by all the good genji players and then caught on and became popular

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I didnt watch a lot of beta so maybe he started using it then and the rest picked it up by launch

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but when i started watching more frequently, most good genjis were using it

silk linden
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was he know back in beta?

pine star
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Yeah I also didn't watch beta at all

balmy wolf
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Yeah dude @gentle shuttle

pine star
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That's why I'm not confirming anything

balmy wolf
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Necros plays Genji

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@silk linden

pine star
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But I remember hearing that somewhere

balmy wolf
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incase you couldnt tell from the video

gentle shuttle
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SDB was know as the best Pharah during the beta

balmy wolf
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He doesn't really stand out in shuriken accuracy or anything like that

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kind of the same level as your average gm/top 500 genji

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its his blades

silk linden
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bu yeah, I'm seeing Shadowburn's nanoblade into frozen enemies, which honestly doesn't sound that difficult, but from his PoV you see he just turns and slashes straight into every single enemy

balmy wolf
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that put him apart

silk linden
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it's like a connect the dots game

gentle shuttle
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just watch more

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there's a lot of footage out there

balmy wolf
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Also SDB's Pharah wasnt the best during Beta

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Definitely one of the best

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easily one of the best

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but the top spot was heavily contested

pine star
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@balmy wolf what the actual fuck was that Necros footage

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I can't understand shit of what he's doing on those blades

silk linden
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dammit shadowburn hits every single sword slash

pine star
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Such reaction

gentle shuttle
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i remember ZP saying that a lot

silk linden
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anyway, highlights are highlights

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I guess I'll follow his stream

balmy wolf
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Yeah, there is some speculation that Necros is hacking or using a script during his blades

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But he's played Genji for 4 seasons now and does this repeatedly

pine star
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Just from seeing that, it's not a crazy assumption lol

balmy wolf
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And hasnt been banned

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And he's been consistently top 500 every season

pine star
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Maybe he's an omnic thenkeng

balmy wolf
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so blizzard would definitely pay attention to that

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and considering he isnt banned, I dont believe he's hacking

pine star
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Is he on a team?

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Where is he from?

balmy wolf
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oh and also his reflects are crazy aswell

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He isn't on a team afaik

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and im not sure where he's from

pine star
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I may just start paying attention to this guy

balmy wolf
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Croatia it seems

silk linden
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you know what. USA didn't have that bad a lineup actually. Too bad they compeltely lacked any gameplan

balmy wolf
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They were one of the strongest teams in the tournament even without practice

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imo if they took it more seriously they could have beaten SK

pine star
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They had good people on each spot

silk linden
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well, the US has 300M people

pine star
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But they got Shadowburnt

silk linden
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Star keeps saying it, their biggest problem was that they didn't know what they were doing

balmy wolf
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Well they did, they just never practiced

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and didnt take it seriously enough

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like you cant expect a team of good players to come together and win with no practice

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but they just didnt seem to care

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maybe because there was no money involved

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idk

pine star
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That's probably why Korea won

balmy wolf
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yep

pine star
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National pride and stuff

balmy wolf
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They take it very seriously

pine star
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They REALLY try-harded

silk linden
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Korea are also better gamers

pine star
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Yeah that's true

silk linden
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Like, they are better at playing Overwatch

balmy wolf
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Which is imo the biggest reason why Korea dominates a lot of esports

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They just take esports more seriously than other countries

pine star
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Yeah

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On every possible level

balmy wolf
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Thats also why Sweden stands out among other european countries

pine star
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From administration, to coaching, to skill development

silk linden
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that, and also some kind of eastern mentality that values cooperation over individuality

balmy wolf
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because they take gaming more seriously than the rest of europe

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theres like schools where you can play games with people and shit

silk linden
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some say they take gaming too seriously actually, in a non healthy and sustainable way

balmy wolf
silk linden
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esports has a huge problem with that imho

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was it like at the past Dota championship, where players admitted that basically everyone takes adderall

balmy wolf
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@pine star Necros is actually from Serbia

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and has played on amateur teams

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or 1 amateur team

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called The Cult

silk linden
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you just mistook a Serb for a Croat. That's punishable by death in both countries

balmy wolf
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I just translated the language in his twitch description :p

silk linden
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"Serbian is the same as Croatian" keep digging your grave bro

balmy wolf
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i didnt say that though..?

silk linden
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(they are. They are the fucking same)

balmy wolf
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oh right

pine star
balmy wolf
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anywho im off to bed

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later chaps

pine star
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Cya

balmy wolf
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love blizzard keeping people at 50% win rate

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Today all i get are people who are trolling, leaving, or not using voice comm

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emm

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This is esports discussion

wanton bronze
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^

balmy wolf
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I have no idea waht is what

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with this fucking april fools joek

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like waht is comp discussion

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Its not the channel to complain about your terrible teams and that you deserve GM

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Chill I thought this was comp discussion

wanton bronze
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but lul forced 50% win rate myth

balmy wolf
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just read the description

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like how would i know its coofoff lolol

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or just read what we're talking about

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its something that i get a ton of games with leavers and people intentionally deranking thjo

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We aren't complaining about ranked, so you should automatically know it isnt comp-discussion

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i havent played many games today btu the odds as kinda slim for that to be just random

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didnt read chat ahead

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how was i supposed to know i needed to go to "cookoff discussion" lel

pine star
balmy wolf
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honestly would have chosen cooking-discussion before that

pine star
balmy wolf
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I just gave you two reasons

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Why you should have known this wasnt comp-discussion

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Cause u werent complaining?

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thats not all comp discussion is

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and cause of what you were talking about?

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that seems like shit i'd read in comp discussion tbh.

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i see esport talk in there occasionaly

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comp discussion not just complaining

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yeaahh

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It's not

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surree

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anyway, im off

pine star
balmy wolf
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But this group is pretty hostile for some reason

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like honest mistake just relax

pine star
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@balmy wolf don't mind Polo, he's a Reaper main

balmy wolf
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It's all explainewd

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You should just read when you come into the channel, instead of instantly venting about your shitty ranked games

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so what do we think about Guy Fieri?

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That would have avoided all of this

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@balmy wolf you have some control issues dont ya

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I just dont want to see what I see in overwatch discussion in here

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I already said it looked pretty regular discussion to me, and the names are changed to some weird joke

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It's not your board

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sorry

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read the description, or the pins or check the other channels first

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Yeah I'll go and read description everytime, honestly the mistake was due to the name change

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why did this trigger you

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just relax dude and lets talk about what the chats for

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Guy Fieri, yay or nay in the upcoming cookoff

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I think he's got a real nice advantage over Gordon R.

pine star
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thread abandonment protocols engaged

digital pond
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Nico is streaming neat

toxic yacht
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β€œTHERE IS ONLY ONE STREAMER THAT I WATCH: SEAGULL. I EVEN COPIED HIS SENSITIVITY. I THINK HE’S THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD.” -LIBERO

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Awwwww <3

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No homo

digital pond
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Lmao.

toxic yacht
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Also, something else that makes Genjis like SDB and Haksal stand out (I've come to the conclusion that he's the best Genji after SDB) is their spacial awareness.
You know how most Genjis, even really good ones look for their targets? These two people... They just know

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They see the entire team for a short time and instantly know where everyone is and have ridiculous prioritization, even in the heat of battle where lesser Genjis would just get confused

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Also, SDB does this thing where he deflects ultimates at every LAN

digital pond
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Good Nano blades are definitely impressive because they know where to go next.

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Even WhoRU displays it when he gets good blades.

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No hesitation when they turn.

tawny girder
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O _O

clever wagon
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I mean I don't know how the "professional" part isn't enough for a hint

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@toxic yacht it's like how Miro is Winston himself, SDB is Genji

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They're at the level at like, they use their abilities like they breathe

tough summit
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pls

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if hes legit

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luuuuuul

vestal mortar
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Whoru is pretty good too

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Also I hope they sell more runaway jumpers

balmy wolf
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What the actual fuck

rapid oxide
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Slowpoke

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@vestal mortar Already out of stock? 😦

balmy wolf
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This was posted like as soon as I went to sleep :c

rapid oxide
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Tempo... Didn't they had a better replacement?. ..

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Like... Fnatic πŸ€”

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People on reddit are like "one more team that drop and Fnatic can play" lol

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Honestly, meme aside, bo1 is shit... Fnatic could easily be qualified

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And even if they didn't perform well in APEX, they are still pretty high tier

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Bo1 is trash, bo 3 5 are nice, bo7 is too much

balmy wolf
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I think everything except bo1 is great

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bo1 isnt really a show of skill

rapid oxide
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Bo7 is stressful

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Imagine if all the matches are close

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That means you have to play 7 matches!

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Whoru was dead after thr 5th match

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I agree that bo1 doesn't show nothing

balmy wolf
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bo7 is the most interesting

rapid oxide
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For viewers, not for players :p

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I could watch bo 999 the old rogue vs envy

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Or lh / runaway

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Pardon, lw blue

balmy wolf
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i wouldnt lul

rapid oxide
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XD

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Also... Why runaway didnt get orged? πŸ€”

balmy wolf
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There isnt anyone to buy them out i suppose

rapid oxide
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People are already speculating on SKT T1

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People have too high expectations

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Meh... They will get all the juicy money then without giving at the org :)

toxic yacht
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They're 100% getting an org after this performance

rapid oxide
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If OWL will start in korea and KeSPA will join tok

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I think lh and lots of team we know will "disappear"

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And im with you sojum

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What is weird is that they are waiting

pine star
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I'm sure they already have TONS of offers

rapid oxide
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I look at Ghost that sign Kungarna just at semis

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Kasier is getting a fucktons of notoriety

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I think i saw his stream getting 6k views

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Ryu usually got 7/8k

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Since that fatty hs

pine star
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He's pretty much the only player that I've seen interacting actively with the west

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Add to that the fact that he's an absolute god

rapid oxide
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His English is ok indeed

pine star
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And he's such a memer kaiserSmug

rapid oxide
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And the rein god we had before was reinforce :p

pine star
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More like Rein jester imarite

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SoOn doing SoOn things

rapid oxide
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Are rogue in vegas right? Gaming house?

balmy wolf
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Yes

rapid oxide
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πŸ‘Œ

spring lintel
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Hot damn his tracking is nuts

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It looks smooth af

rapid oxide
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Who's the KR soon for you guys?

rapid oxide
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Ill say sabyeolbie or w/e is his name

spring lintel
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Wow now that I think about it

rapid oxide
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Saebyeolbe

spring lintel
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Bastion can be a great thing to learn tracking

balmy wolf
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Damn he gets a pocket mercy every game

lilac drum
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You all should get a Gordon Ramsay

balmy wolf
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FeelsRadMan @limber pine

ruby stirrup
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I just got matched into a game with 3 dia 3 plats

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while on my team I had 1 dia 2 unranked

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and 3 plats

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what the fuck

balmy wolf
toxic yacht
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#shitpost-discussion

pine star
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Is that the real deal?

toxic yacht
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Yes

vestal mortar
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What a babe 😍

silk linden
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wild brandon in a rare moment when he isn't caw cawing on people all over the place

clever wagon
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It's April 2nd in 49 minutes on my end

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They might as well return the server to normal since so many people think this is #comp-whine-dump

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I mean I bitch about comp too but not everytime

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

vestal mortar
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I have only seen one person think this is a comp whine place

toxic yacht
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I've seen 2, which is 2 too many for my taste

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Well, one was whining

clever wagon
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And comp bitchings are always either matchmaking issues, trolls, leavers, or non-switching bullshit anyway... even I'm tired after 2-3 times doing a written bitching

toxic yacht
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The other one complaining about the mix of noranks + normals

vestal mortar
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Ahh

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Silly people should read channel descriptions

clever wagon
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Not even

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Apparently the "professional" part isn't enough a hint

vestal mortar
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smh

clever wagon
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Call me an elitist but there are at least 2 people in this channel who think 2 comp bitchings by non-pro players are too many

vestal mortar
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Totes elitist widowlol

clever wagon
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I'm personally certain enough that I'm expecting professional scene discussion here... Occasional memes and shitposts are fine but there are more than infinite other places you can bitch about your shitty comp experience. And yeah practically anybody who have touched comp at this point have been through more or less the same shit, so there's no use in even mentioning that here.

rapid oxide
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5 of 6 lunatic hai ppl are streaming

clever wagon
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When they're streaming but you don't understand Korean FeelsSadMan

rapid oxide
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I don't speak anime too

vestal mortar
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That's why I'm watching Pit

clever wagon
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But ~5 years of being a weeb helps a tiiiny bit with Japanese πŸ€”

rapid oxide
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Koream=|=japanese. Anyway let's not offtopic :p

clever wagon
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Apparently putting 10 i's in tiny counts as "spam-esque"

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Mercy Bot has no mercy

rapid oxide
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I hate the bot tbh

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Its fucking useless

pine star
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βˆ†

clever wagon
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How am I going to assert my point if putting 3291041234 i's in "tiny" is considered spam-esque thenkeng

rapid oxide
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I can post link but how dare using more than five "!"

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I can post porn and go away without consequences

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🀷

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Put spamming "Ka.ppa" no!

clever wagon
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But man blizz servers hasn't been great especially lately

vestal mortar
clever wagon
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A shit-ton of "unable to connect" at the starting screen

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For some inexplicable reason

rapid oxide
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I get atleasy 3/4 dc in 1h 😒

vestal mortar
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Misfits noo

pearl aurora
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damn

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fought well

clever wagon
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OWL is in 5 months and server issues still happening smh

rapid oxide
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Im pretty sure they will use realm server lol

clever wagon
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How are The Chavs handling Misfits

rapid oxide
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Because they are good

clever wagon
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@rapid oxide sssshh

rapid oxide
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Misfits ulting and get 0 kill

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What a shame lol

clever wagon
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Wow what

vestal mortar
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Yeah I am not sure how I feel about Misfit's ult management

rapid oxide
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Inb4 "showing that tier 2 eu team are still tier 2 euΒ₯

clever wagon
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Twitch usual bullshit incoming

rapid oxide
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Kruise said he expect hammer to be top 2

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At least

clever wagon
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Where's Kruise from again

rapid oxide
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Twitch chat

clever wagon
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/shrugh

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...

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

vestal mortar
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Twitch chat born and raised

clever wagon
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Born in it, molded molested by it

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Yee boi

rapid oxide
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nice ulti misfits

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πŸ‘Œ

vestal mortar
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welp

rapid oxide
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HAMMER pogchimp

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Sorry misfits but i will cheer for hammer, yd thry were unlucky and they deserve to go in quarterfinal

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Twitch chat asking if take a pizza or wait for his dad? Wtf lmao

vestal mortar
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Janus was discharged from hospital! \o/

rapid oxide
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NICE!

digital pond
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Freaking Esca has a different sens per hero

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By like .2-.3 lmao

rapid oxide
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Kruise: C9 and Fnatic are pretty bad tbh

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Savage

vestal mortar
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wow

digital pond
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Rofl

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I mean to be fair all they have to judge is their performances at APEX.

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And aside from their last game vs KDU C9 struggled

vestal mortar
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C9 with Bishop now though πŸ‘Œ

digital pond
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Fingers crossed.

clever wagon
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Hammers is really looking like that one org that might be not as big but have really good eyes for talent

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Eye for rough diamonds

rapid oxide
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2cp is fucking horrible

wintry matrix
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which map did Hammers win?

vestal mortar
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Nepal

digital pond
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How is the role swap treating Misfist?

vestal mortar
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nooooo

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yessss!

shrewd jackal
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What??

toxic yacht
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Nevix on DPS always makes me happy, so I'm biased, but I'd say that it's going well

vestal mortar
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^

digital pond
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Good to hear.

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Manneten seems to be doing ALOT of work.

clever wagon
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EU hours zaryalol

balmy wolf
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what

digital pond
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Dafran is finally streaming πŸ˜„

pine star
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Godfran gachiGASM

digital pond
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He's playing Genji again too. Back to his original OTP.

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6 man Queue. Silk/Space/Dafran/Spree/Kephrii/J3sus lmao.

balmy wolf
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Silkthread Lewdy

digital pond
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Lol he came in Dafran stream and went "Space/Daf and I could queue and snipe Kephrii for easy SR if we wanted"

balmy wolf
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lul

nimble owl
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WHATS UP WITH REINHART

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i picked him and it spamming the chat

digital pond
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Been like that since yesterday.

plain thorn
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max bm mode

solid spear
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Harry, Chips duo yum

balmy wolf
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supple nymph
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clever wagon
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6 hrs and 22 minutes into April 2

clever wagon
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Kruise won't say that to C9 bois at lan, they jacked, go to the chillest restaurants, wear the freshest clothes and bang the hottest dudes @rapid oxide

pearl aurora
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did they forget to announce the na portion of the pit

balmy wolf
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Yee

pearl aurora
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gdi

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who won, rise?

balmy wolf
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I didnt watch

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But I assume so

rapid oxide
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@clever wagon wat

clever wagon
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Memes

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And by freshest clothes I mean team uniforms that could easily be mistaken with AFBlue

naive barn
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Did the skill rating decay mechanic get cut entirely? I'm looking under my SR, and I can't find the time left until rating decay.

shell rain
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I have it

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Or atleast i did 30mins ago

tulip jewel
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@naive barn Check in the competitive play info page

naive barn
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When I right click it, the top thing reads "Skill Rating"

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instead of "Time Until Skill Rating decay" as it should

shell rain
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definetely there for me as of 30mins ago

clever wagon
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I want this server to go back to normal already :/

shell rain
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just drink

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eat

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and be merry

naive barn
#

im confused and worried cause

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i dont want my SR to decay

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but i dont know how long i have left and i really dont wanna play today

clever wagon
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This is originally #esports-discussion

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Btw

naive barn
#

ah

clever wagon
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Competitive is #cookoff

naive barn
#

alright thanks

shell rain
#

i thought it was cooking discussions

clever wagon
#

LGE 2-1 convoLuted yeee boi

dreamy terrace
#

why is comp cook off lol

clever wagon
#

...

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Who knows

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Maybe it has something to do with the April fools theme

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I mean I thought this channel is being clear about itself with "professional" in its name but apparently not

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/shrug

pine star
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This whole April's fools joke is stupid tbh

shell rain
#

says the guy with steak for a name

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#rekt

clever wagon
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It was fun while it lasted, but then people started mistaking this channel with comp cum rant dump :/

pine star
#

But

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I like steak

clever wagon
pine star
#

Hands off ladies

shell rain
#

Unfortunately for you

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My hand are covered in adhesive

pine star
jovial eagle
#

WD40

shell rain
#

No

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you cannot stop my sticky fingers

misty spire
#

Yo yo yo

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It's yo boi

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Mr krabs

shell rain
#

No

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This is Patrick#

misty spire
#

Back at it again with another koocking with the one and only MrKrabs

#

Lastime we made the krabby patty

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Now we're making the krusty krab pizza

#

First you have to sing the krusty krab pizza song

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krusty krab pizza, is the pizza for you and me

#

Where's Gordon Ramsey when you need him

sick musk
#

So Bastion has seen a 0% pickrate in pro tournaments for the last 2-3 weeks in a row

jovial eagle
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no one has tried

sick musk
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And why do you think that is?

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I've seen so many people say that Bastion is Overpowered, yes this is after the nerf to 20% damage reduc, but the numbers say otherwise

pearl aurora
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comp vs pro is diff

sick musk
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I think Bastion needs another rework tbh, hear me out

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Bastion is very difficult to balance

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You can either buff him too much and make him OP and a staple in the meta

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like we saw at the beginning of the season

pearl aurora
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a coordinated team can easily take a bastion out, which is what pro teams are (for the most part)

sick musk
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or you make him too weak that he's such a niche character that never gets picked

pearl aurora
#

im disappointed by all of the torb picks because it never works out smfh

sick musk
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I mean for pete's sake

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Torb got picked more than Bastion

elder oracle
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Bastion needs support and is immobile is why I think he's not very good, unless he's getting pocket healing when I play Pharah it's easy kills all game

sick musk
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Which I'm not saying is a bad thing

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Huh usually I experience the opposite

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I usually destroy pharahs

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On Oasis we were losing to a very good Pharah and I was playing Mercy

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we were down 1-2

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I switched to Bastion

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and we won

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3-2

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I do think that Bastion needs to be looked at again, what do you guys think?

elder oracle
#

Happens I guess I've never had an issue unless he has backup, if he has backup it's another story cause u got to flank and if there's a soldier or Mcree and is in good position it becomes difficult, but mind you I'm 2300 so maybe that's why we see a difference

sick musk
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He needs a more active and interesting role as a hero, not just a "press the lmb button and get kills"

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and yes

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I'm a Bastion main

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I climbed from 1850 to 3000 this season with 95% bastion

pearl aurora
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fyi this isn't competitive discussion

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this is exports

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esports

sick musk
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I just think that Bastion could use a change to make him, for lack of a better word, more "fun", and I think that may be why he isn't used much in E SPORTS

elder oracle
#

I believe bastion is in a decent spot, his immobility will always keep him out of the top meta imo, it's too dangers to sit still like that

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And how do you make it so hes more mobile without making him op, it's a fine line

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Give him more armour but we all see what happened with tbat

sick musk
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In a perfect world, every single character would be played the same amount

elder oracle
#

True

jovial eagle
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because bastion is focus fire magnet

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the moment someone picks bastion in a pro tournament he's getting fucked by 6 people

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it's not so much he needs reword

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but the mindset he attracts

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nothing you can do about that

sick musk
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Then what would you propose? Keep him as he is and have him almost never picked in any pro tournaments ever? The numbers don't lie.

pearl aurora
#

there's always gonna be heroes that aren't picked

sick musk
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arble

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aren't you supposed to be like a mod or something?

pearl aurora
#

i was demoted

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clearly

sick musk
#

ah

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But shouldn't Blizzard's, and the playerbase's for that matter, goal be to strive to make all heroes picked equally? Because that's when you have true balance.

pearl aurora
#

...that would be horrible

sick musk
#

I'm not saying you are wrong, but how come?

pearl aurora
#

if all heroes were picked equally then you'd have a 1/24 chance of getting either a reinhardt or symmetra on your team πŸ€”

sick musk
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Ah, but you would have an almost equal chance of getting support, offense, defense, and tank characters

jovial eagle
#

you shouldn't be asking for changes to a character just because said character is getting no picks in a pro tournament

sick musk
#

My argument is that if pros NEVER use him, then shouldn't that at least be a sign that MAYBE a character may need a change?

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I mean

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these are the top tier teams of Overwatch

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If they don't touch certain characters then maybe that means there's something inherantly wrong with them

jovial eagle
#

there are a lot of characters that pros don't use in tournaments i think

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but no, i don't think a character warrants a change just because pros either don't pick at all or use seldomly

pearl aurora
#

^

sick musk
#

You make a fair point. But why do you think pros don't use certain characters then?

I mean, surely, if a character was balanced, wouldn't it see use at ALL levels of competitive play?

jovial eagle
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i don't think you realize the mentality of picks in either tournaments or different levels of competitive play

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certain characters are picked more because it's a lot easier to perform well on them

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others are either inconsistent or takes an incredible amount of skill to be better than the so called "meta" picks

pearl aurora
#

yeah

jovial eagle
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people shit on hanzo, but if you watch seagull's hanzo you'd think hanzo is OP

pearl aurora
#

also do you realize how incredibly common mirror teams are in esports

sick musk
#

Okay

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I may be flawed in my logic here

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but doesn't Ana have a high skill cap? Which means it is harder to perform well with her?

jovial eagle
#

not exactly

sick musk
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Then why was she the second most picked hero if she has that high of a skill cap?

jovial eagle
#

as a support, her first priority is keeping people alive

pearl aurora
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because people who are good with her are extremely good

jovial eagle
#

it's very easy to do that on ana

pearl aurora
#

same as with genji

jovial eagle
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when she starts to dps that's when her skills really shine

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second most pick because she literally is the best healer of all healers

sick musk
#

Well Bastion has the most DPS in the game so by that comparison shouldn't he be used more?

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Okay

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bad comparison

jovial eagle
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with a tradeoff of being incredibly vulnerable

sick musk
#

but still

jovial eagle
#

and immobile

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he needs a shield in front of him

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and shields burn stupidly fast in tournaments

sick musk
#

He gets more EHP when he goes immobile

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Enemy shields would melt faster with a Bastion

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When playing Bastion it's all about melting their shields before they melt yours

jovial eagle
#

and comes in dva

pearl aurora
#

^

jovial eagle
#

the thing is that a lot of teams will speed boost into a better position

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and if they have a mei with dva

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it gets dicey

sick musk
#

Dva can not take on Bastion in a 1v1

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now if she right clicks with her team nearby though...

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that's a different sotry

jovial eagle
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bastion's value becomes apparent defending an area where the enemy is forced to be on said area without leaving

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not on chokepoints

sick musk
#

This might just be my personal experience, but I find it actually easier to play Bastion on attack/koth than defense

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Coming from a Masters level guy

jovial eagle
#

bastion does fare better on those maps

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like widow

solid spear
#

nah lets just buff Lucio lul

balmy wolf
#

I really hate some people on this game sometimes

#

I play sombra in comp and even though I stopped 4 enemy ults on a round 5 koth map and won us the game

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someone still insists that I was the most garbage player

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just because i was sombra

#

can this hate for her please come to an end

pine star
#

Again

toxic yacht
solid spear
#

they should nerf Sombra

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for luls

clever wagon
#

@sick musk the equal heroes mindset is fucked up

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Nerf sombra, nerf bastion, nerf all the niche heroes

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Let them complain and don't give a fuck

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That'll be golden entertainment

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Also THIS IS ESPORTS

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I doubt the regulars give as much fucks about hero usage here as they do the pro matches and pro personalities themselves

#

Pls for the sake of everything that's holy return this server to normal already

#

2-3 days we've been getting new randoms that came here because they mistook "professional" with their shitty comp experience

clever wagon
#

πŸ†—

solid spear
#

Yeah idk why the server isn't normal

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It's been like 2 full days now

toxic yacht
#

Mods all already renamed themselves

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At this stage they're just being lazy, methinks

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Or "waiting for April 2nd in the whole world"

rapid oxide
#

Knoxxx married dafuq pogchimp

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"immune to stun, hook" "50% increase health" its 2 April 😦

clever wagon
#

A bit late for April fools

viral umbra
#

Sup guys.

edgy remnant
#

not even his real account

rapid oxide
#

it is real... got confirmed by himself in the official overwatch forum post

clever wagon
#

Competitive discussion wut

heavy hearth
#

discussion in a competitive game wut

#

my team is always silent 😦

clever wagon
#

Esports discussion where D: muh safe space

#

@balmy wolf

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Hint see channel topic, this has esport channels while cookoff has competitive

heavy hearth
#

ohhh right

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thanks for clearing that up

#

i was wondering what cookoff was lmao

clever wagon
#

Yeh should be April 2 for all time zones as of now, no idea why the server hasnt returned to normal

heavy hearth
#

ohh right yeah saw the overcooked thing

#

that makes sense now

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why its called cookoff

clever wagon
#

Looks like changes are underway

vestal mortar
#

Back to normal!

gentle shuttle
#

πŸ˜‹

clever wagon
#

THANK GOODNESS

vestal mortar
#

YES

clever wagon
vestal mortar
#

Awwwwwwww! ❀ :' )

rapid oxide
#

Holy cow she's cutie :o

clever wagon
#

And with that KnOxXx gains more composure, his heart calmed and his mind strengthened, proceeding to better his role as tank in his team

rapid oxide
#

He got the 🐱, that's why he will become a good tank

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πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

vestal mortar
rapid oxide
#

As always i dont post questions, others will make it

gentle shuttle
#

she's pretty, congrats Knoxxx

clever wagon
pine star
#

He better wake up fast πŸ‘€

solid spear
#

Word

toxic yacht
#

TviQ doing his ama "eventually" pogchimp

vestal mortar
pine star
#

"AMA when?"

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"Soon"

#

Ah no, wait, that'd be ShadowBurn

clever wagon
#

@frank frigate IS THE TRIVIA STATS HERE TO STAY OR NAH

#

PLS SAY IT IS

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Also I dunno if the numbers are made up or nah, because I know I report a lot

#

Also, Kaiser is up and awake for AMA.

pine star
#

One question answered, 222 to go

clever wagon
#

Lul

jovial eagle
#

10 am here

#

he probably just woke up

inland jolt
#

Blizzard stil not doing map drafting

balmy wolf
#

Of course they arent lol

inland jolt
#

"We always try and listen to our players"= Blizzard

#

-Blizzard*

pine star
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

jovial eagle
#

keyword

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"try"

inland jolt
#

Why dont you have LAN in your games blizzard?

#

"the technology isn't just there yet"

frank frigate
#

LOL yes the trivia stats are not real

#

i don't know when we're going to take them down or not

balmy wolf
#

What @clever wagon

gentle shuttle
#

Fusion Girls, aren't they all dudes tho πŸ€”

pine star
gentle shuttle
clever wagon
#

@gentle shuttle Ikr? Deep down...

#

@balmy wolf Nothing

pine star
#

Maybe they're all secretly grills

balmy wolf
gentle shuttle
#

🐷

pine star
iron cedar
pine star
#

I see what you did there

clever wagon
#

Thanks Mercy Bot, now I know I can't put in more than 3-4 blank spaces.

#

GEEZ

gentle shuttle
#

🐷

clever wagon
#

GOD

#

But Fusion Girls is no more, it's now Esports.

#

Rrrrrrgh

pine star
#

I'm still seeing them

balmy wolf
#

Blank eSports is terrible

#

I wish they would have taken Fusion Girls' name and logo

#

so much better

pine star
#

The logo was rad

clever wagon
#

Fusion Girls
Esports

pick one

pine star
#

Fusion Girls Esports Conekusaii2

balmy wolf
clever wagon
balmy wolf
#

???

clever wagon
#

Ikr

digital pond
#

Downgraded so hard.

#

That's like going from a Tesla to a Go Cart

iron cedar
#

Why did they?

digital pond
#

It's their sponsor

clever wagon
#

lul if I hadn't been using BetterDiscord with bg pic that massive B is probably near invisible

digital pond
#

So they had to

clever wagon
#

Fusion Girls is a more catchy logo

#

It's advertising basics like lul

gentle shuttle
#

looks like a 16-bit retro racing game logo

pine star
#

And catchy name too

jovial eagle
#

fusion girls logo is incredible

#

great teamname too haha

#

got that hotline miami thing going on

balmy wolf
#

im using an even darker discord than dark theme @clever wagon

clever wagon
#

Vaporwave/80s vibe

pine star
#

When does the Taiwan tourney begin?

balmy wolf
#

really hard to see

clever wagon
#

Lul

pine star
#

kek

iron cedar
#

damn

clever wagon
#

Advertising basics

balmy wolf
#

April 8th @DMcSullivan#2402

clever wagon
#

Like you don't even need a major for that

balmy wolf
pine star
#

Naisu

#

Wait...

#

Isn't the APEX final on that same day?

jovial eagle
#

it's not like they're noctua fans where people know that it's incredible

forest raven
#

Ye

jovial eagle
#

despite the shitbrown

clever wagon
#

Hyperbolically speaking it's like, make it as bright as possible, catchy af, shove it in the viewers' faces, slap them like you're slapping your dick, but noooo let's use "Blank" with a massive B and dot

solid spear
#

"I dont know much about the Western teams"

clever wagon
#

Because advertising basics like brand recognition is hard

solid spear
#

Oh Kaiser my man

clever wagon
#

He's too busy being Reinhardt @solid spear

pine star
#

Kaisar doesn't care about plebs Overwatch LULcio

jovial eagle
#

NA/EU doesn't know much about KR im sure

#

and vice versa

balmy wolf
#

Taiwan tourney has a big prize pool but idc about the teams so

jovial eagle
#

or do they

balmy wolf
#

personally, ill be watching Apex

pine star
#

Me too

jovial eagle
#

taiwan tournament is 270k USD?

pine star
#

But I really want to see AHQ and Fusion Girls

balmy wolf
#

wait fusion girls is in it?

forest raven
#

FUSION GIRLS LETS GO

balmy wolf
#

i thought it was chinese

forest raven
#

πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί 🐨

pine star
#

Yep

clever wagon
#

@jovial eagle I don't see how the major attention from NA/EU tier 1/2 pros qualify as doesn't know much though

pine star
#

They got invited

jovial eagle
#

hmm?

balmy wolf
#

Ill watch their matches then

forest raven
#

Can't wait for my bois Fusion Girls to sweep $98k

jovial eagle
#

it makes sense if KR teams don't constantly go against NA/EU teams i think

forest raven
pine star
#

We need a huge ass LAN in US with KR, NA and EU teams and $500k prize pool

#

And hookers

clever wagon
#

"KoX really loves himself"

#

( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)

pine star
clever wagon
#

Don't ever stop being yourself Kaiser

pine star
#

This one needs to be answered

#

LUL

jovial eagle
#

in tennis they'd have tournaments disclose the financial committance with every tournament

#

like the recent tournament has about 6m USD committed

#

i want that big number for esports too

clever wagon
#

OWL though?

clever wagon
#

Hm

balmy wolf
#

so what have I missed this week? can someone update me?

forest raven
#

@balmy wolf LW Blue defeated Meta Athena 3-1 in the 3rd place match of APEX Season 2, the group stages for The Pit EU concluded and the group A matches for The Pit NA will conclude tomorrow

#

Group B matches of The Pit NA will begin on the 4th, the grand final of APEX will be on the 8th, playoffs for The Pit EU will begin on the 9th

#

@balmy wolf It's Misfits vs Laser Kittenz in the playoffs

balmy wolf
#

ohh baby

#

thank you @forest raven ❀

forest raven
#

np fam

balmy wolf
#

okay you said fam.. we are through

forest raven
balmy wolf
#

I thought we had something

#

wow Laser Kittenz made it farther than I thought they would.. there is no way they are winning againsts Misfits though

clever wagon
#

Cutting all ties~ Tumbling down, tumbling down, it's all tumbling down~

balmy wolf
#

saaame

#

wtf @forest raven

#

Hammers lose to Dig and Ninjas is a pretty convincing fashion

#

Played terrible on Nepal against both

forest raven
#

Whoa

#

rip

balmy wolf
#

And then the only map they take against Misfits is Nepal?

#

After no one taking a map off them in the group?

#

oh no wait ignore that last statement

#

hm

#

the 1 map they lost vs ex-attax was nepal aswell

#

Maybe Misfits just suck on Nepal Thanking

#

hm

#

Just going by the maps and rounds won

#

Hammers seemed to really step it up vs Misfits

#

compared their last games

forest raven
#

Why do you think they struggled so much @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
#

Hammers?

forest raven
#

Yeah

balmy wolf
#

No idea

#

I just counted it up there

#

And since playing in Enter The Arena and coming 6th

#

They didn't play in anything till March 28th

forest raven
#

rip

balmy wolf
#

36 days

#

without playing in anything

#

and this is their debut as Hammers

#

idk what happened

toxic yacht
#

Guys, but Misfits are scared of LK, you forgot?

rapid oxide
#

Hammers didn't stugle against misfits tho

#

Hammers got unlucky cuz the dc :/

#

Is surely higher tier than singularity lol

flat sparrow
#

when will the world cup start ?

rapid oxide
#

3-4/11/2017

burnt token
#

when is the apex final on?

clever wagon
#

Saturday

#

@burnt token

burnt token
#

thanks for that

toxic yacht
#

"Bumper is just an idiot" - Kaiser

#

lmao

vestal mortar
gentle shuttle
#

hey which channel has the laser kitten matches c:

toxic yacht
#

Should be Overwatchpit

#

Methinks

gentle shuttle
#

tenks πŸ˜‹

#

lol @ their forward hold agaisnt Gale Force on Eich' DEF

solid spear
#

Oh snap it's da boy Zoro

gentle shuttle
#

sup bruuu

rapid oxide
#

G2 Lead

clever wagon
#

G2 owner?

#

@rapid oxide

#

Man what I wouldn't give to see G2 in Overwatch

#

It's all Blizzard's fault GrandpaRage

pine star
#

This leads me to believe that not even team owners know what the fuck OWL is going to be

#

Which is concerning to say the least

solid spear
#

I mean

#

Even Blizz doesn't know apparently

toxic yacht
#

Lmfao

pine star
#

Either that or the teams that are going to be in the league are already set in stone

toxic yacht
#

I want to trust in blizz

pine star
#

LUL true

toxic yacht
#

Pls don't fuck it up

solid spear
#

I mean it was just a couple weeks ago where they had illustrations for cities

#

Cuz apparently 6 months or so out and they don't even know where tf teams will be

pine star
#

It's already April

#

And zero meaningful information whatsoever has been released to the public

#

Only rumours and ambiguous ass statements

rapid oxide
#

My idea is

#

First investors, that surely is the hardest part imo

pine star
#

Yeah well

#

Teams ARE investors

rapid oxide
#

Not really

#

I mean, not always

#

SKT T1 are investors

#

Misfits aren't, Miami Heats are

#

So i think they want to secure the city spot first

#

Find investors and people that can broadcast etc...

#

If you dont find this and go straight for team without investors, you have most likely nothing tbh

#

Finding a team that will attack to a sponsor is ez

#

Kraft want to be in OWL, he have tge money to bu w/e yhe fuck he wants

pine star
#

Yeah well, the clock's ticking

rapid oxide
#

Buy

#

Even Lunatic Hai

#

Ticking is subjective

#

Overwatch matches will start in 2018

#

Combine during world cup imo, aka November or earlier

#

They said August for more info

pine star
#

They stated that matches started this year tho

#

Didn't they?

rapid oxide
#

The Overwatch League 2017 season will commence in Q3 of 2017. During that time, the league will be in a condensed format as drafting and team building will take place. From 2018 and onward, we hope to provide a consistent timeline for regular seasons.

#

OWL could be either a revolution that COULD possibly stomp all the eSport or fail miserably

pine star
#

The problem is, with how much Blizzard is putting into it, it can go one way or another

rapid oxide
#

I just look at soccer, now there's a fucktons of money and income arr growing

#

So if u pump a fucktons of money the ROI is amazing

#

Sometimes

#

I want to belive Blizzard and im overly positive

pine star
#

Well, as Sojum say

#

They better not fuck it up

rapid oxide
#

But their past....

pine star
#

Because they got one shot at this

#

And one only

rapid oxide
#

As i said, we could assist a revolution

#

That can fail or be a fucking success

#

And yeah, i agree with sojum

#

Don't fuck it Blizzard

#

Pls, it's the only esport i enjoy 😭

pine star
#

What players, team owners, and us audience want is some official information

#

Something

#

Because even the slightest of whisper will turn into ridiculous rumours

#

You have to keep people fed Blizzard

#

Just look how that slide turned out

rapid oxide
#

Blizzard is good at building hype

#

Really good

pine star
#

One thing is building hype, but they're not doing that atm

#

They're just letting people wildly speculate, which could turn out very bad for them

#

Create false expectations​

rapid oxide
#

Sometimes i watch OWL trailer, and i still get thrills

#

That's true

pine star
#

Krusher99 gachiGASM

rapid oxide
#

Can't imagine the name change after thag trailer lol

#

From 0 to 81726362616

pine star
#

Btw

#

The most glorious beard in Overwatch will be hosting an AMA

rapid oxide
#

Zebbo?

#

Ah

vestal mortar
rapid oxide
#

What kind of products do you use for your beard?

vestal mortar
#

I wonder if they could get beard product sponsorships thenkeng

pine star
#

As a bearded fellow, I honestly want to know

#

He's goals

rapid oxide
#

I keep the "3 days beard"

vestal mortar
#

As a non-bearded woman with a bearded boyfriend, I also want to know

pine star
#

"as a non-bearded woman"

rapid oxide
#

kek

pine star
#

Don't know what I expected tbh

solid spear
#

Lol

rapid oxide
#

Women with beard tho πŸ‘Œ πŸ’―

solid spear
#

Lmao

vestal mortar
#

Maybe I will get somebody to make me a Zebbosai beard to keep my face warm

rapid oxide
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Zebbo bodypillow

solid spear
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<_<

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Id buy it

pine star
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Bearded Tara is very Pog Champ

vestal mortar
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But only with Zebbo sponsored beard products TM

pine star
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Fragi's beard > Zebbo's beard

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not in that specific pic tho

vestal mortar
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Fragi also has a nice beard

rapid oxide
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Different vikings, different beards

balmy wolf
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πŸ‘ŒπŸ»

rapid oxide
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I prefer zebbo tbh

pine star
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Not that

solid spear
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I'd buy body pillows of both

clever wagon
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Zebbo nr.1 OW beard tbh

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Stitch nr.1 KR qt

forest raven
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Ryb beard > all

pine star
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Look at this magnificence jfc

clever wagon
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I wonder who else is nr.1 at something

vestal mortar
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Inb4 they are all looking at this channel rn πŸ‘€

clever wagon
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No, Zebbo beard πŸ‘ŒπŸ»

solid spear
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This is esports

rapid oxide
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That's a sick beard tho

clever wagon
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@vestal mortar no ragrets smh

vestal mortar
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πŸ˜‰

clever wagon
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@solid spear you think professional beards don't count??? THINK AGAIN LAD

pine star
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We are discussing the fine beards in competitive OW and their implications in pro performance

rapid oxide
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@forest raven πŸ˜–

clever wagon
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Just realized

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Fragi's AMA is not r/cow but r/ow

solid spear
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Of course they count

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Beards is esports discussion

pine star
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@clever wagon oh shit, you're right

solid spear
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R/ow

pine star
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Why tho

solid spear
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shudders

clever wagon
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The thread starter seems to be NiP account instead of his own

pine star
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Don't make me go to that place Fragi feelsbad

clever wagon
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Though idk if he's gonna use his own to answer

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18:00 CEST it says, I don't even know what time zone is that