esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

Is Selfless next?

Yee

naisu

Dumper

Also the amount of viewers is only half of what it was earlier

http://prntscr.com/elppwj

At least he's honest about it

Yeah the breaks always lose viewers

??

[forest raven]

TRAIN

NOOOOO

[balmy wolf]

He was out of the vertical range?

[clever wagon]

Just barely

Damn

[balmy wolf]

Cheese

Goodnight guys

[forest raven]

Night

[digital pond]

Why do teams even pick 2CP.

ffs.

[forest raven]

I think it's a fixed map pool

Hybrid --> 2cp --> koth

[clever wagon]

2.5 mins left

Pretty good

[digital pond]

_<

[clever wagon]

I mean

This still could go either way

[forest raven]

Make 2cp the third map damnit, not the 2nd

[clever wagon]

But Evil just has their power distributed so well

Super, Voll, Train, Jake

Can't argue with that

This fucking Genji duel is way better than Selfless game LUL

[spring lintel]

Wtf is selfless just better than runaway?

Woah hammers are doing better than runaway

I mean selfless

Better than selfless

[forest raven]

Kaiser is the real beyblade

[spring lintel]

wat

[past oar]

now the game i wanna watch

[spring lintel]

That winston snip was fucking filthy

The prediction was insane

Stitch was insane with that snip

[forest raven]

Seems IMT has taken Selfless to a third map

[spring lintel]

lol "you wanna cast?"

This tourney is so anti climactic

[balmy wolf]

I'm not really surprised

[forest raven]

Selfless is up 1-0 on IMT

Must have been quite the map if that went longer than all of RunAway vs LGE

[balmy wolf]

tfw Selfess vs IMT is closer than LGE vs Runaway

[forest raven]

lul

Seems like the IMT that won NGE is coming back

[balmy wolf]

[past oar]

they not streaming Selfless vs LGE?

[forest raven]

Nope

Streaming the RunAway games

[past oar]

damn, that sucks

really wanted to watch that

[forest raven]

If IMT vs Selfless goes to a 3rd map they'll stream that

[balmy wolf]

While we're waiting we should just watch another match

They would lose less viewers that way too

[forest raven]

Yeah lol

Just go to the Hanamura game

1-1 LETS GO

[spring lintel]

THE BM

I thought skins were banned

[forest raven]

This was an off stream game

[spring lintel]

Why does it matter?

[balmy wolf]

The only reason skins are banned is so the match is easier to follow

So people know what hero is which

Like they look at Pumpkin reaper and are like

"whos that guy"

[spring lintel]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

Its very stupid imo

[spring lintel]

Yeah I get it

[balmy wolf]

but whatever

[spring lintel]

But who would watch a game that they dont have or know

But whatever

[forest raven]

As soon as Sinatraa switched to Tracer they began dominating IMT 🤔

Still no McCree from Grim

[past oar]

LGE 0-3

[forest raven]

That's a feelsbad

[balmy wolf]

Who won

[past oar]

what is this game

damn

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CreativeWimpyWolfOneHand

dude what

haksal did literally nothing with nano

he just stood there looking at grim

and died

holy shit IMT are going to set a record time

https://clips.twitch.tv/FineFamousClamVoteYea

jfc

[forest raven]

FUCKING GRIM

DINKS THREE HEADS IN A ROW

BUT THEY NEVER RUN MCCREE AGAINST SELFLESS

[past oar]

well, that's one map down

[balmy wolf]

Man Runaway really suck dick on high ping lol

[forest raven]

IMT could have done so much with GrimCree against Sinatraa's Tracer

But he tried running his Tracer against Sinatraa's

[past oar]

word

[forest raven]

This is more dominating than Selfless' match on KR against RunAway

[balmy wolf]

They wont full hold

they just wont

theres no way

[past oar]

is that the team that beat LH?

lol

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

Knew it

tfw runaway only break IMT's defense with Nanoblade

[forest raven]

It's their version of Beyblade lol

[past oar]

well they held one map for 6 mins

so

it could happen

[balmy wolf]

They are just so dominant

holy fuck

Hyped

my god

This really is Winter Premiere Immortals

They're pushing it but

only winning off nanoblade

and have half of IMT's time going into factory

[past oar]

might as well just farm blades

and wait

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/JollyOptimisticHamburgerCharlieBitMe

Dude

3 kills 1 firestrike

Is this Selfess vs Runaway again?

Without Haksal Runaway would literally be nothing

Like a tier 5 team

[past oar]

I guess that's all you can do with 140 ms

[balmy wolf]

This is like FaZe and Shadowburn but a whole nother level

[forest raven]

They showed up right at the end there

In OT

[past oar]

they need to full hold, right?

[forest raven]

They staggered Agilities and the only thing IMT could do from then on was trickle because the payload was too close for IMT to regroup again

RunAway really isn't good at KR

[balmy wolf]

jesus fucking christ

[forest raven]

AND IMT DIDN'T RUN MCCREE AGAINST SINATRAA

[balmy wolf]

Jesus hyped's tracking

[spring lintel]

Damn runaway said they cant deal with a tracer

Because of the ping

[forest raven]

If a character is in an invuln state, they shouldn't be able to contest

[past oar]

score Self vs LGE?

[forest raven]

Haven't got an update on gosu yet

Fuck

IMT could very well 2-0 RunAway now

[past oar]

well, that's game

[forest raven]

3:41 to take first

[past oar]

Runaway chose not to stagger Ana and Lucio

huge mistake

[forest raven]

Oh shit Agilities

IMT performed far better against RunAway than Selfless did

I think if IMT actually chooses to run GrimCree against Selfless, they could beat them

[past oar]

playing more aggressive vs a team with high ping payed off

[forest raven]

mhm

[past oar]

obviously they couldn't do that vs Selfless

[spring lintel]

It's over?

Woot

[balmy wolf]

So

Selfless vs FaZe and Rogue vs Runaway tomorrow

Gonna be interesting

[forest raven]

LGE vs Selfless is still going on

Selfless is gonna run over FaZe

Rogue should beat RunAway handily

Actualyl no

It's Rogue vs IMT

IMT's in second seed because they beat RunAway

[balmy wolf]

Oh right yeah

Liquipedia hadn't updated so I just thought it would be Runaway

[forest raven]

Yeah, probs waiting for the last game to finish

[balmy wolf]

So it's LGE vs Fnatic and BGH vs Runaway?

[forest raven]

I think that depends on who wins between LGE and Selfless

If Selfless wins then yes

[balmy wolf]

Its over though?

Oh right

Off stream

[forest raven]

Ye

[clever wagon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/608cj3/runner_just_turned_on_his_stream_to_post_brief/

If anybody fucking thinks ping doesn't matter

[spring lintel]

Yeah it's obvious

I have played with 120 ping and 20

It's insane

[clever wagon]

Same

[spring lintel]

I legit was going nuts when I heard shadowburn plays with 120+ ping

[clever wagon]

For some reason I used to get 300 ms servers with my last ISP

Changed ISPs now, never happened anymore

[spring lintel]

Oh god 300

[clever wagon]

But holy shit the delay

"Play Reinhardt" they say? FUCK YOU, even putting up his shield has a delay

Now I almost always play on 20 ms luckily, save for 1 or 2 games I might not remember

[balmy wolf]

Honestly, if thats what they actually said

They are just whiners

120 ping is not that bad

What they're describing is 300+ ping

Like pressing E on a teammate and the barrier being 2 seconds late?

Yeah no, that doesnt happen on 120 ever.

[forest raven]

They could be exaggerating after coming from 5 ping @balmy wolf

[balmy wolf]

I suppose but still

Ping does matter

Thats evident

But like

Them saying all that

makes it seem like it really was that bad

when in reality it wasnt like that at all

[forest raven]

btw, Selfless 2-1'd LGE

[balmy wolf]

So people will think Runaway only lost because of the ping difference

[forest raven]

Selfless is real shit at 2cp apparently

[balmy wolf]

rip

[forest raven]

Selfless lost 2cp against CLG, RunAway, LGE and tied IMT

[clever wagon]

That said LGE never ran Electric Cowboy against Runners

Jake went McCree only at Eichenwalde defense 1st round

And only 1 life

Well, who knows though

[forest raven]

Seriously, Selfless runs one diver and that's Tracer

IMT could very well have beaten Selfless had Grim ran McCree with Agilities' Hog

[clever wagon]

There have also been instances where nano effects have 2sec or more delay to appear on its target

[forest raven]

And focused down Sinatraa

[clever wagon]

On rather normal latencies

[spring lintel]

Yeah 120 isnt that bad

They probably had some connection problems

Which made their ping alot higher

[clever wagon]

Well, inside sources said it's not 140 but rather 195

150-200

[digital pond]

Maybe some packet loss. I just think it's just them having a hard time getting used to timing of things is all. 5ms to 195 probably would take me aback too.

[forest raven]

I mean I felt fine going from 18 to 160 when I played with someone from EU, so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

There was obviously delay, but I could deal

[digital pond]

Iono.

In the end, I don't think it really matters.

[forest raven]

It's good to know they're not taking it too seriously, though

[clever wagon]

Well, Runner also said they finally got used to it by Evil match

So yeah they could cope with the ping in the end

[forest raven]

Yet IMT ran them over harder than Selfless did

[iron mauve]

Who's won in Melee this weekend?

[forest raven]

Rogue came out of their group 6-0, with FaZe in 2nd place. Selfless 6-2'd their group, with IMT in 2nd @iron mauve

RunAway was 2-1'd by Selfless, 2-0'd by IMT and 2-0'd LGE

[iron mauve]

Damn.

Ok thanks 😃

[solid spear]

LGE with the clean 0-3

[iron mauve]

Rip LGE tho. What happened?

[forest raven]

Selfless is a very good team, and IMT seems to be coming out of their slump after winning NGE

LGE might be falling into a slump of their own

[iron mauve]

😦

I like runaway competing in Melee though. It's the team in Apex right? Or a diff team?

[forest raven]

Yeah, same team

[iron mauve]

No ping issues?

[forest raven]

No, ping is a factor for sure, but they said themselves Selfless is a very good team

Not sure what happened against IMT, though 🤔

Honestly RunAway looks like a very one trick team in the OMM

Nano Haksal, wipe team

Without that combo they get stalled out and rolled

Most of the time

[iron mauve]

Ic. NA stepping up? Or just better teams not having a good day? 🤔

[forest raven]

Honestly, online tournaments in cross-region play should be taken with a bucket of salt

[clever wagon]

I believe NA is stepping up with these young teams

[iron mauve]

Yeah you have a point

[clever wagon]

But still

[forest raven]

However, even on LAN, RunAway vs Selfless would still be a very, very close match, imo

[clever wagon]

Need LANs to actually prove that

[iron mauve]

Isn't OW Pit gonna have LAN at finals or something?

[clever wagon]

But their records on online tourneys are something

[forest raven]

Assume so

[clever wagon]

Semis and finals I think?

[forest raven]

Anyway, I gotta brb for like 20 mins

[iron mauve]

Hopefully.

[clever wagon]

Selfless with Dafran and Sinatraa playing like they're out for blood is also enjoyable to watch

[iron mauve]

It's nice to see some other teams come into tourneys from other leagues/regions/tourneys thiugh

[clever wagon]

Really aggressive unlike any other

[iron mauve]

I haven't seen much of selfless tbh.

Heard they're LGE on steroids in a way

In terms of agree

Aggression*

[clever wagon]

Aggression, yeah maybe

Not so with versatility, even if they can work it across their 30-match streak

[iron mauve]

Gotcha

[clever wagon]

Did you watch RunAway v Selfless? Should be enough to see how they play

Was a tight game

[iron mauve]

Nah. Wasn't able to see any of Melee yet

[clever wagon]

Be sure to when you can

[flint topaz]

Hey guys, if you live in the Middle East or North Africa, you should check this out: https://megl.tv/geforce

[clever wagon]

This has been the hottest Melee yet

[flint topaz]

We're hosting an NVIDIA sponsored overwatch tournament

[iron mauve]

Thx 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[flint topaz]

$6000 prize pool

[clever wagon]

Since January that is, I only got into esports scene this year

@flint topaz might want to bring that to #tournaments

Message the mods/Admins

[iron mauve]

I only got into Pro ow when Hammers got Bird Noises. I work for Hammers rn so my knowledge was basically Carbon and The last Melee.

[clever wagon]

Can also post r/cow if you want

Oh wow

A Hammers person 😮

[iron mauve]

I'm a graphic designer 😂😂 no one super special

[clever wagon]

Thanks to Hammers for picking Jake n co up regardless

With Hammers picking up The Chavs this time I see Hammers as one of those orgs with an eye for talent

[flint topaz]

@clever wagon messaged an Admin

[iron mauve]

Yeah. OwL is the push right now

Not a huge org so I'm assuming Hammers will need to show investors that they're worth it with wins and good talent

[clever wagon]

Yeah best of luck to Hammers

[iron mauve]

Btw question. There's a small Esports team that wants an Overwatch league spot. But hasn't touched Ow Esports at all. No teams, nothing. They're OK in like 1 Esports that they compete in, but it's a small Esport so its not a whole lot in comparison to LoL or anything. Think it's actually possible for said team to get an investor to give them money for OwL?

They compete in Vainglory (mobile Esports)

[clever wagon]

Hmm

I don't know much about the technicals tbh sorry

[iron mauve]

Aight. No prob 👌🏻

[clever wagon]

@balmy wolf maybe?

I mean though, as an uneducated opinion... I guess it depends on the investor?

Right, I forgot it's off time for most guys here

@forest raven should be back soon though

[iron mauve]

I gotchu. Just wondering. Cause I personally don't think they will, since they've never been in any Esports market outside of a mobile environment

[forest raven]

Unless their roster really shows up before OWL begins, unlikely imo

[iron mauve]

Well they don't even have one. That's the thing

[forest raven]

Well, do they have millions of dollars to spend?

[iron mauve]

They tried to get a team. Like spicy boys or someone like that, but they couldn't get them

No.

[forest raven]

They could easily get outbidded by other, richer orgs

[iron mauve]

Yeah. That's my thought. But they're trying to convince investors to give them money, without proving that they would be an actual decent Ow team. So I'm kinda just like "what?"

[clever wagon]

Oh wait shit

I just got a "ding" and realized

Yeah it's gonna be hard

[solid spear]

still thinking Echo Fox is gonna buyout Selfless

[balmy wolf]

Seflless is one a 33 match winstreak right now

There's no more excuses

[forest raven]

Selfless vs Rogue is gonna be the most explosive match of the tournament, for sure

[balmy wolf]

but that streak will END against Faze

[forest raven]

wat

Selfless is gonna run over FaZe

[balmy wolf]

Shhh

Faze will show them

[forest raven]

Touko

Your fanboy is showing

[balmy wolf]

A real fan never turns their back on their team >_>

[forest raven]

I know

That's why I support C9 through loss after loss

[balmy wolf]

I feel ya man

Let's keep supporting our teams well >_>

[vestal mortar]

Woohoo! \o/

[rapid oxide]

But they did all the matches? Because reddit post seems missing some

[forest raven]

All the group stage matches are done @rapid oxide

http://i.imgur.com/CQ7ZrG9.png

http://i.imgur.com/GpXLFtk.png

[opaque owl]

Runaway?

[forest raven]

Ye

[opaque owl]

As the Korean team

[forest raven]

Ye

[opaque owl]

Playing from Asia too?

Damn

[forest raven]

Yeap

Like 150 - 200 ping

Kaiser said they had like 190 ping

[opaque owl]

Still one 1 match

[forest raven]

Yeah

They put up a good fight against Selfless

But IMT kinda rolled over them

[spring lintel]

Guys how is the situation with lucio pros

Like ajax

His rework is insane

[rapid oxide]

Thanks @forest raven 🤗

[forest raven]

np fam

[rapid oxide]

People on Reddit are like "selfless would win apex" "kr aren't that strong"

[forest raven]

kek

[rapid oxide]

lol

They are actually serious

[forest raven]

Ping was a factor, but Selfless vs RunAway would still be incredibly close

On LAN

[rapid oxide]

Yep

What they have do to? Selfless should play in kr

And... Echo Fox is watching imo 👀

[forest raven]

They'd be smart to pick up Selfless

[rapid oxide]

Pretty sure he will take one already established

He have the money to do so

[clever wagon]

That's only 1 game with RunAway on inter-continental ping

Never disappoint, reddit

[toxic yacht]

Nono, you don't get it

These tier 1 KR teams

Are actually worse than tier 2 NA teams

KR totally cares about this random NA tournament as much as APEX

[forest raven]

@toxic yacht You saw the post on /r/compow?

It said the guys in RunAway were laughing about the lag lol

[toxic yacht]

Yee

Just shows how much they care about it, lol

[clever wagon]

https://www.over.gg/3071/spicy-boys-cool-off

[toxic yacht]

But to give credit where credit is due, selfless played this crazy well

[solid spear]

Yeah they went 3-0 in a very good group no one can take that away from them

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/JacobNWolf/status/843298403241119745

[clever wagon]

Yeh saw that

[rapid oxide]

Evil dropping so much... Fuck gosu >_>

Samsung Italy want to do a team for overwatch 🤔

[vestal mortar]

Oh? Interesting

[worthy fox]

🤔🤔🤔

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/Hafficool/status/843264316551892992

LMAO

"what do you mean 'now'?" savage winz

[vestal mortar]

hehe

[solid spear]

http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/18949813/former-misfits-gm-launches-new-overwatch-team-laser-kittenz

[vestal mortar]

😮

[solid spear]

Also tbf LG Evil is still 7 which is higher than they are in actuality

The return of Zaprey doe

[toxic yacht]

Zaprey, lul

it's about damn time

[rapid oxide]

i want to form the Solo Tilt, ft TwoEasy, Taimou, Art1er >_>

[solid spear]

Went to focus on his education but realized school is boring and dat OW $$$

[toxic yacht]

well, misfits started winning after he left and nevix went dps

[solid spear]

Misfits was good even when Zaprey was there

They had wins over every single notable team in EU

[toxic yacht]

I know, I know

[rapid oxide]

name is horrible btw

looks like the average troll name of teams

[solid spear]

I mean I assume it's a play on Star Fox

That's what the logo looks like

[shut moss]

yo hype for athena cup \o/

[balmy wolf]

Oh shit

Picking up Bench Boys

With Zaprey and Nesh

Lets Go Champ

[rapid oxide]

star fox wut?

[balmy wolf]

The logo is like Star Fox

Except a cat

[rapid oxide]

oh

[balmy wolf]

Man Laser Kittens is really diverse

[solid spear]

We get to see em real soon

Look good on paper

[balmy wolf]

#lf-players-na @blazing lintel

Also rip SpicyBoys

[blazing lintel]

thanks didnt see it

[solid spear]

Poor complexity doe

They can't catch a break

[toxic yacht]

tfw twoeasy leaves bench boys

and this happens

[solid spear]

I mean aren't there some like Twoeasy TSM rumors anyway?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah dude lol

Leaves because he wants to get on a team for OWL

His former teams is picked up and looking for OWL spot

[toxic yacht]

I just hope that he finds a team

:(

[balmy wolf]

And yeah there has been Oreofe

[toxic yacht]

He's really good

[balmy wolf]

TSM have been looking for a team for a while

[solid spear]

I mean there's talent available right now for sure

[balmy wolf]

That might be the unannounced org that Cosi and TiG are on

[solid spear]

I guess that's possible

[balmy wolf]

Talespin said he was trying out for TSM on stream I think?

or maybe just "a team"

and that there was a lot of others aswell

Maybe Talespin

👀

[solid spear]

Yeah there's been Talespin, Calvin rumors

[toxic yacht]

inb4 tviq leaves misfits and joins TSM

[solid spear]

I'm sitting here hoping my boy Skipjack finds a squad

[toxic yacht]

skipjack's ass is too busy recovering

after how badly it got fucked

by the 3 way trade

He seriously needs to find a team :/

[solid spear]

He's too good to just...not be playing

Also I hope Talespin developed a Hog or his Genji is better or something after all this time

[quasi python]

why the hell they do that 3 way trade, old misfits is good

and nevix play support......

[solid spear]

It was a location thing but considering 2 of the 3 teams are in NA now and the other will be eventually in hindsight maybe it never needed to happen

[thorn holly]

how many spots do you think there will be in NA for OWL¿? cuz there are like 15 right now trying to play in NA

[balmy wolf]

ayyy one more hour

[wintry matrix]

is there any reason for the AMM organizers not stream the matches that won't be casted?

or not just AMM, but the tournaments in general

[solid spear]

I mean they have to have multiple matches at the same time

So they're not sitting here casting for 15 hours

[wintry matrix]

I meant as in, why they don't have a separate channel to stream the other matches

like, Rogue X IMT is being casted, then BGH x Fnatic is being just streamed with no casting in a nother channel

[solid spear]

You see the technical difficulties they have with one stream, letting the casters rotate and have some kind of break plus splitting people between 2 streams it's just more trouble than it's worth for a small tournament

[wintry matrix]

I guess it makes sense

[balmy wolf]

I have come to see Faze end Selfless' 33 match win streak

lul

gl

[solid spear]

Haha and NRG will be the best team in NA

[balmy wolf]

@toxic yacht u in bed babby boy

[solid spear]

Pit this week and Carbon on the side

Man plenty of OW

Apex too

[onyx hull]

damn i blink and they cap

[opaque owl]

[onyx hull]

knoxx dying too much

akm pharah.. 😦

insta switch lol

lol

[digital pond]

Guessing aKm's McCree pooped on IMT's Pharah?

Unkoe the true DPS.

[onyx hull]

i cant recall imt ever playing pharah rn

[digital pond]

"Who's waving the white flag now"

Rofl.

I'm confusing IMT with CLG ignore me.

[onyx hull]

np

[rapid oxide]

Rogue scares me af

[digital pond]

Rogue just needs to fix their defense game. Like Selfless.

[onyx hull]

yeah they are... not really good at first defense points

[digital pond]

Also I love Hyped's Zarya.

Lmao aKM Garahing

[rapid oxide]

Not a stomp tho

Kinda

[onyx hull]

imt played well, i thnk they lost mostly because grim was out of position

[rapid oxide]

100% rogue would be doing better than envy

[digital pond]

To be fair IMT has improved quite a bit in the last 2 weeks.

[balmy wolf]

http://i.imgur.com/iH2RbWd.png

🏳️‍🌈

[digital pond]

This is why Jeff won't admit Jason is his son.

He's a conservative man.

[vestal mortar]

Hahaha

[onyx hull]

"The two guys on the left are wearing shirts and nothing else. "

[digital pond]

[balmy wolf]

http://i.imgur.com/Cn8eW8i.png @gentle shuttle

👀

[digital pond]

Why is ToA always in these series ffs.

[spring lintel]

Just came in

Did rogue dominate the first match?

[balmy wolf]

ToA? @digital pond

[digital pond]

Temple of Anubis

[opaque owl]

what are you watching?

[spring lintel]

Or was it equal more or less?

[digital pond]

It was 3/3 Eichenwalde.

[spring lintel]

Twitch.tv/curse

[balmy wolf]

IMT finished in OT, Rogue finished with 3:34

[digital pond]

Rogue got attack capped and won.

[spring lintel]

Nisu

[balmy wolf]

Rogue then capped 1st point with 30s remaining

[onyx hull]

it wasn't a stomp

[balmy wolf]

and won

[digital pond]

IMT is playing pretty good frankly.

Grim's McCree makes SoOn's life hell.

[wintry matrix]

Apparently BGH 1 x 0 Runaway on Hollywood

[balmy wolf]

Man I love watching Rogue

[spring lintel]

Immt are good but they are unstable

Only grim seems to be somewhat stable

[balmy wolf]

Also playing Tracer into aKm's McCree

[digital pond]

Rogue's shot-calling and target calling is just impressive as all hell.

[balmy wolf]

unkoe

[gentle shuttle]

@balmy wolf sup playa

[digital pond]

Dude his Zen.

Unkoe is the real DPS.

[onyx hull]

hey where did you see bgh vs runaway results @wintry matrix

[digital pond]

SoOn's positionning is so glorious @balmy wolf

[wintry matrix]

In OW BR server

there's a lot of BR teams there

the coach is relaying results

[balmy wolf]

You can just ask in twitch chat aswell

ikr @digital pond

[onyx hull]

they mustt've played at 300 ping

[wintry matrix]

Apparently it's 180 for BGH and 140 for Runaway

they could be lying tho

[digital pond]

It always weirds me out how little IMT seems to make use of Hyped's Zarya recently.

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/StormyDifficultPoxTinyFace

lul

[spring lintel]

That was funny

[onyx hull]

that camera work

[digital pond]

He always gets taggered on D.Va.

Especially on ToA

[balmy wolf]

Whats ToA

[digital pond]

Temple of Anubis answered earlier.

[balmy wolf]

oh

[digital pond]

Just easier for me to type

[balmy wolf]

I just call it anubis :p

[onyx hull]

ana healing a lot

[digital pond]

Gotcha.

Never expected IMT to run dive though.

[balmy wolf]

You've never seen them run Dive?

[digital pond]

Not with Grim on Tracer no.

[balmy wolf]

IMT is doing really well

When did you start watching tournies?

[digital pond]

2 months or so ago.

Maybe 2.5

[balmy wolf]

Maybe the difference between top NA teams is smaller than we thought

[spring lintel]

Why doesnt verbo ever try to escape?

He always get killed needlessly

[balmy wolf]

I don't think many people would predict Faze beating Fnatic either

[digital pond]

Well the way I saw it going back through tournaments I would still say Rogue is more "organized", My thing is also that a lot of NA teams were just not playing dive for a bit.

[balmy wolf]

I excepted FaZe to beat Fnatic

Fnatic have been looking pretty bad lately

[digital pond]

That was a wild card for me.

[balmy wolf]

Especially with Haffi on high ping

[toxic yacht]

"excepted"

[onyx hull]

holy shit that was nice

[digital pond]

Aside from BGH if Faze was to beat someone it would be fnatic.

[onyx hull]

genji vs genji

[spring lintel]

Agilities did so good

[balmy wolf]

http://prntscr.com/em05a0

[spring lintel]

But wtf was his team doing

[onyx hull]

getting picked

[spring lintel]

Did grim get a single kill at least

[digital pond]

"Why is Nico the only one on Rogue that is good at his main" l0l

[onyx hull]

unkoe on mercy to support akm's plat pharah is such a waste 😦

[balmy wolf]

Wait, so you saw the WP right? @digital pond

[onyx hull]

thank god

[digital pond]

@balmy wolf I'm not sure I did :x

[balmy wolf]

Ah

Makes sense then

IMT ran Dive in that

sometimes

[digital pond]

Aaah gotcha.

I'm still new to the scene, just learning as it goes.

[balmy wolf]

7 m i n u t e s

[digital pond]

Rip.

[onyx hull]

gg ez

[digital pond]

Agilities put himself out of position.

[spring lintel]

Rip

[digital pond]

And they immediately knew it was win condition.

[balmy wolf]

Fucking

Domination

[digital pond]

Their Attack game is ON point.

[spring lintel]

You should go counter their dive with a quad tanks

[digital pond]

Defense just needs a bit of help.

They tried triple tank and got dismantled on Eichenwalde.

[spring lintel]

Damn

[digital pond]

Unkoe was just eating their tanks.

Both teams struggled on defense though.

[onyx hull]

countering with a quad tank only works if the team already knows how to play quad. fnatic tried quad defense and got shitted on yesterday

[spring lintel]

They need winston too

[digital pond]

Fnatic also tried Quad tank by putting the one dude carrying them in DPS on winston.

[onyx hull]

yeah that was funny as fuck

[digital pond]

That's like bending over and making signs to lead to their buttholes.

[onyx hull]

btw they updated the match results on bgh vs runaway at over.gg , they really won the first set

[balmy wolf]

Wait what?

Oh game

[past oar]

Selfless vs Rogue is gonna be interesting

[balmy wolf]

Fnatic vs Evil

[past oar]

assuming Selfless getting through Faze, that is

which I think they will, easily

[onyx hull]

more hafficool 😫

[balmy wolf]

Selfless losing to FaZe

[past oar]

lol

[balmy wolf]

1-1 Fnatic vs Evil

We'll see >_>

is anyone else having trouble with the steam cutting out randomly?

[onyx hull]

not me

[past oar]

me neither

[opaque owl]

try https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=curse&html5

full html

[onyx hull]

zp 😃

[balmy wolf]

No uber

http://prntscr.com/em0d8x ?

Slashers hair looks like a pineapple

its a meme

[digital pond]

THAT'S MY BOY

[onyx hull]

he had a hideous manbun last amm

[digital pond]

EMONG

EMONGG EMONGG

[toxic yacht]

https://i.imgur.com/fOsikKf.png

[digital pond]

jajaja

LOL

That fucking scrap gun

[onyx hull]

punished

[digital pond]

I fucking hate Mercy ugh.

Sinatraa backcapping again.

Dude's so cheeky.

[onyx hull]

just leave the car lol

[digital pond]

They got baited into fighting while they moved the cart LOL.

LOL

Emongg just one shotting SDB

[gentle shuttle]

when did Selfless become a top tanyer team

[digital pond]

Again and again.

They won their last 6 tournaments back to back in a week @gentle shuttle

Before this.

[gentle shuttle]

@digital pond fooof

😮

[onyx hull]

seeing emongg playing hog makes him feel so fast, i play hog and feel like a slow fat ass with no ammo 90% of the match

[digital pond]

Dhak helps haha.

50% on rez again.

I hate this hero.

[onyx hull]

easy to get ult single healing

[balmy wolf]

They became a good team when the actual good NA teams were in Korea

[digital pond]

^

I was hoping to see them play c9 at least.

But they're on break.

[balmy wolf]

They need to get Mendo and Ryb back in the US

Selfless is on a 33 match win streak @gentle shuttle

[digital pond]

Yeah I mean it's "vacation" I'm sure they'll be back.

[balmy wolf]

It's visa issues

afaik

[gentle shuttle]

@balmy wolf wth??? man thats insane

[digital pond]

Makes sense. I think since OW also doesn't have an established league it's harder on visas.

[gentle shuttle]

they were like tier 3 or 4 last i remembered way back when

gd shit to em

[digital pond]

Even Dota sometimes has problems.

[balmy wolf]

Yeah that was their old Roster @gentle shuttle

[digital pond]

Emongg came after.

He wasn't originally in Selfless from the get to go.

[balmy wolf]

They're all new

[digital pond]

Oh, true.

Juvenile was in it.

[gentle shuttle]

I remember Emongg

[digital pond]

He's in RNG now.

[gentle shuttle]

i forget which team he used to be on though 🤔

[balmy wolf]

So was b1am

[digital pond]

Yeah he went to Kungarna.

And Kellar to Tempo Storm NA.

[balmy wolf]

He was on a random unsigned team @gentle shuttle

[digital pond]

Selfless is his first team.

He played CS:GO tournaments though with fl0m.

[balmy wolf]

B1am's boys and siccari

was their name

[digital pond]

And with Tim too.

[gentle shuttle]

ah okies

[balmy wolf]

SDB is not having a good day :c

[digital pond]

dafran baiting reflect SO hard.

[gentle shuttle]

russian ping :C

[digital pond]

They wasted a whole minute.

I'll say it was good in the end lol.

[gentle shuttle]

jeez ow twitch chats

[digital pond]

l0l

Selfless momentum lost.

Michael only one almost killing SDB lmao.

LOL BACKCAPPING SINATRAA STYLE.,

[balmy wolf]

They'll take it back next round

[spring lintel]

Wtf they havent started yet?

Or did they?

I went to get something to eat

[gentle shuttle]

man i used to kinda stick up for Slasher but god damn

[onyx hull]

?

[gentle shuttle]

him saying "just copy Rogue"

my friend thinks Hex looks like Hawkeye from Avengers. Can't unsee

[balmy wolf]

What is Faze doing?

[onyx hull]

zoning blade

[balmy wolf]

Faze wtf...

[spring lintel]

He already has another blade

[digital pond]

Holy fuck.

[balmy wolf]

When will Soldier get nerfed???

[digital pond]

Ayy Sinatraa finally played Zarya.

Kresnik pls.

[spring lintel]

Shadowburn lost his blade

Damn

[onyx hull]

2cp balanced

[digital pond]

That was a nice ass Grav.

Alright now Sinatraa can stay Tracer for the next 3 months.

lol BGH won.

[gentle shuttle]

wtf

yo brazilllll

[onyx hull]

pride 👌

[balmy wolf]

???

[digital pond]

So hyped for BGH.

[balmy wolf]

Nice

[digital pond]

Must have played well frankly.

[wintry matrix]

🇧🇷

[spring lintel]

Nice

Iwanna watch em

[balmy wolf]

Don't forget it's like 7:40 am in KR right now

[digital pond]

oh fuclk

I lied

Sinatraa on genji

[balmy wolf]

but still nice

[digital pond]

@past oar There you go Sinatraa played 2 different heroes.

[spring lintel]

And lost

Ha

[digital pond]

I mean.

2CP + defending isn't a Selfless shining moment lol.

[balmy wolf]

FAZE

[spring lintel]

Lol what is this

[digital pond]

Daaaaamn

[balmy wolf]

FUCKING 2 CP

[digital pond]

The blade comeback.

[spring lintel]

Omg the phara

[balmy wolf]

YES

[onyx hull]

nice ass rockets

[balmy wolf]

Come on now don't choke

[spring lintel]

That luck tho

Accidental tracer kill

[balmy wolf]

Luck is something you earn c;

[digital pond]

EMONGG EMONGG EMONGG EMONGG EMONGG EMONGG

[balmy wolf]

No

[digital pond]

Faze feeding some ult charge.

[balmy wolf]

Please Faze

Not again

[onyx hull]

lool

[spring lintel]

Awesome

[digital pond]

I hope Mercy gets deleted x.X

[balmy wolf]

_>

[digital pond]

Not even specific to this game.

[balmy wolf]

It's something

[digital pond]

Just in general.

[spring lintel]

Mercy rez was smthn

[balmy wolf]

If only the draws were fixed already

[onyx hull]

imagine esport overwatch without healers, only self-heals and healthpacks

[digital pond]

Sounds awful on certain maps.

[onyx hull]

sombra would be played a lot more

[solid spear]

Sounds awful period

[balmy wolf]

It'd just be Genjis running around fighting over health packs

[solid spear]

Shit like Pharah literally could not be played

[balmy wolf]

Just nerf Soldier already

No weaknesses

The best at everything

Why?

[spring lintel]

And insane range

[onyx hull]

buff tracer to 200hp

[digital pond]

Rip

[balmy wolf]

He the most DPS at close and long range, burst damage, he can move faster than other heroes, can heal himself and his team and his ult is extremely powerful

[spring lintel]

Woah

[balmy wolf]

Also nice Faze

[onyx hull]

wp

[spring lintel]

That was a nice game from faze

[balmy wolf]

but apparently D.Va was too good at too many things

Fucking hell

[digital pond]

I mean when she was part of the meta she was pretty much oppressive lol.

[balmy wolf]

Even at her peak she wasn't the most used tank, pretty sure

Ana and Soldier

When there's heroes like D.Va, Reaper, etc.

Why?

[solid spear]

Tracer at 200 health?

[digital pond]

Sounds annoying af.

IS that the boy? EMONGG

That was a nice shatter.

[balmy wolf]

SDB nice

He's getting back into it

[digital pond]

LOL

That fucking hammer range.

[balmy wolf]

Again

What the fuck

This is pro play and look at Soldier

He can do so much damage so easily and kill everyone AND he has stupid secondary abilities

Not to mention his ult

and again lol

[digital pond]

"If we don't look at Dafran maybe he'll go away"

[spring lintel]

Rip faze

[digital pond]

F&F plz

[balmy wolf]

I watched a Shadder video earlier today and he got like 65 elims with Genji but he still had less damage than Soldier

[spring lintel]

Wtf was that

[digital pond]

Well if you actually kill your targets when you hit them.

You'll get less damage.

Same way a popping off McCree does less damage even if he headshots everyone.

Cause they die.

[onyx hull]

i dont think they'll ever nerf soldier cuz he's the token newbie hero pick

[spring lintel]

This is brutal

[digital pond]

They might nerf the dmg per bullet by 1-2 eventually.

[balmy wolf]

Unfortunate

I argue Soldier is pretty much as broken as Ana

No

Look at Blizzard, having a laugh with Lucio instead of fixing their game

I expect nothing from them anymore

Genji will never get the same amount of Damage as 76

Because 76 is shooting Rein shield whenever he can

Oh yeah not oppressive at all lol

He has no drawbacks at all

huh?

[onyx hull]

he's uhhh...old

[balmy wolf]

Only Roadhog can counter him if he lands his hook before he gets bursted down

It's so stupid

[onyx hull]

actually the oldest characters are the most picked

[digital pond]

Don't do it Polly!

You know how it'll end!

[balmy wolf]

What

🇫🇷 🆚 🇩🇰 🇪🇸 🇺🇸

[forest raven]

Was rogue vs IMT as bad as it was last OMM?

[digital pond]

Not nearly.

IMT lost but it wasn't a blow out.

They put up a pretty good fight.

[balmy wolf]

It was decisive but they didn't get crushed

[forest raven]

That's good

[balmy wolf]

Ehh

34 match win streak now for Selfless

I'd say they still crushed them

Just not as hard

Like yeah, they finished the map

but now they're up against arguably the best western team

But they finished in OT when Rogue finished with 3:40

And granted they did hold first for 3 minutes

but aKm wasn't even on 76 or McCree so

rip

[onyx hull]

sinatraa vs akm

[balmy wolf]

Actually, Rogue has won all their matches since their comeback

Yep

so one insane win streak will broken in favor of the other

HYPE

YUS

UBER AND JKAP

Uber and Jason too

The ultimate hype

omg it's bo5 too

Poor Sojum, having to miss this...

He's still awake

@toxic yacht

Shitposting in trusted

[onyx hull]

imt 1 x 0 bgh 😦

[balmy wolf]

😱

[toxic yacht]

uhh, I'm busy rn

doing something for school

while shitposting

[balmy wolf]

It's the HYPEST game

uh huh

sure sojum

[balmy wolf]

Oh god

[toxic yacht]

my life is pain

[balmy wolf]

You study informatics?

or is this for school?

[toxic yacht]

for school, but I'm at a special type of school with a focus on techonolgy and shit

it department

[balmy wolf]

ouch

Good luck dude

[forest raven]

aKm on McCree

Aww yiss

[digital pond]

They're trading. Not good for Rogue.

Nico the savior.

[forest raven]

Camera stays on SoOn as aKm shuts down Sinatraa and gets a kill with deadeye

[digital pond]

NA production obv.

[balmy wolf]

Okay so at least on the streamed matches they've still been running the same comp

:/

[digital pond]

LOL UNKOE

[onyx hull]

ouch

[digital pond]

That Rein charge was nasty.

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CarelessUnsightlyTurtleGrammarKing

[digital pond]

Dafran's tracking though.

This is brutal.

[balmy wolf]

Oh my god

[digital pond]

Selfless got momentum.

Like A LOT.

To be fair though, both teams are teams that thrive on attack and struggle on defense.

We'll have to see how selfless does on defense too,

[balmy wolf]

Dafran is carrying so hard

[digital pond]

Yeah he's a monster.

[forest raven]

Camera hasn't gone to aKm once

[digital pond]

Free Payload movements.

Literally thought they had already hit point 2 cause of how pushed they were.

[balmy wolf]

This is like Grim and IMT

[digital pond]

Hum.

[balmy wolf]

Where has Zarya been today?

[digital pond]

That feels like too many defensive ults.

[balmy wolf]

Camera on aKm

[digital pond]

1 too many.

Zarya got played by IMT and Sinatraa on anubis.

Hyped played her on Eichen too.

[balmy wolf]

Off stream @balmy wolf

[digital pond]

Oh/

[balmy wolf]

Ah

Wrong person

lul

[digital pond]

Different comps off stream?

[balmy wolf]

I was thinking already

[digital pond]

People still being sneaky.

[opaque owl]

what is going on

😮

[balmy wolf]

I mean different teams

off stream

[forest raven]

KnoxXx on Reinhardt

[digital pond]

Aaah

So weird to see Knoxx on Rein.

Last time I saw him on it he didn't do too hot.

[balmy wolf]

Holy

Dafran is just unfair

Fuck

KNOXXX SWITCH WINSTON

[digital pond]

Oh Zarya.

[balmy wolf]

NICO ON ZARYA

[digital pond]

Wow.

[balmy wolf]

OOOOOOOO

[onyx hull]

[digital pond]

They got forced to swap.

Props to Selfless man.

[balmy wolf]

First team to get Rogue to swap

Lets go bois

[digital pond]

Ya,

[balmy wolf]

Hype af

Here's Zarya

[forest raven]

So

NiCO practiced his Zarya

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialCourageousSparrowTBCheesePull

[digital pond]

Nico plays a lot of shit man.

[balmy wolf]

Dude NiCO

This Zarya

[digital pond]

He's always duoQ'ing with someone who's streaming.

[onyx hull]

rogue swapped to reaper on the last amm vs lg evil

[digital pond]

He plays a shit ton of heroes.

[balmy wolf]

Will this be the first time Selfless' won't finish a map?

[digital pond]

His Tracking is super twitchy.

Reminds me of Geguro Polo

[balmy wolf]

no

[opaque owl]

at least they held and it wasn't a 4m timebank

[digital pond]

Geguri*

[forest raven]

So, Selfless completed their best map in under a minute

[onyx hull]

that was fun

[balmy wolf]

wut draw

you mean with under a minute left?

[forest raven]

Oh yeah

I'm dumb

🤔

[balmy wolf]

kek

@onyx hull I'm talking about the rest of the team

aKm has been switching throughout both tournaments

[digital pond]

Surprised Rogue swapped frankly.

[balmy wolf]

Reaper, Pharah, 76, McCree

[digital pond]

Akm was the only one who really swapped.

He's versatile DPS wise.

[balmy wolf]

And Unkoe with Ana and Zen

[digital pond]

Yeh

[balmy wolf]

Everyone else stayed on the same heroes