esports-discussion

[digital pond]

That was one of the fastest Dragonblade.

LOL

HAFFI

WDF

Haffi is literally staggering himself solo.

[toxic yacht]

what even made them pick up haffi?

[digital pond]

No idea.

[onyx hull]

bad day maybe

[toxic yacht]

He was doing well as dva in the tank meta

[clever wagon]

What made them? Kicking IDDQD

[digital pond]

I mean I get IDDQ was probably a bit more toxic pre-replacement.

Apparently he was fairly toxic.

To teammates.

Which at the time was believeable because of how toxic his stream was.

[toxic yacht]

but he's consistently mediocre since then

buds and coolmatt going off

[clever wagon]

Not Hafficool

[toxic yacht]

LMAO

[digital pond]

iddq was just a lot of people saying he was toxic int eam environment so they used it to drop him.

[toxic yacht]

SOON

[onyx hull]

lol

[digital pond]

Then he would be super toxic on streams o people believed it.

He got better over time doe.

lmao

The fucking stagger.

[toxic yacht]

I love staggers

[opaque owl]

poor vonethil

[clever wagon]

'Member that one time some idiot on r/cow thinks staggering in this game is worth a foul? I 'member

[toxic yacht]

[clever wagon]

No fucking joke that actually happened and someone made a thread

[opaque owl]

that blade

[onyx hull]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

OMG

[onyx hull]

LMAO

[toxic yacht]

fuck, my stream ded

[balmy wolf]

BAITED

[toxic yacht]

what happened?

[opaque owl]

https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=curse&html5

try here

[onyx hull]

haffi ulted the spawn door

[toxic yacht]

haffi is retarded

[balmy wolf]

Haffi went for the Dragonblade and then they walked in spawn and they couldn't hit him

[toxic yacht]

I think

oh, lmao

poor haffi

[digital pond]

Haffi got a kill guys!

[toxic yacht]

well, not retarded

[clever wagon]

Oh shit white twitch chat background

[onyx hull]

he was kinda baited

[clever wagon]

When was the last time I saw it

[digital pond]

Lmao

Fucking akm

Built tactical visor mid fight.

[toxic yacht]

bet that fnatic now want andre back

[digital pond]

Probably lmao.

It's okay TwoEasy is a free agent.

He can MLG 360 for them.

[toxic yacht]

lul

[onyx hull]

akm pharah NO

[digital pond]

lololol

Into buds widow

What a madman

[onyx hull]

plat pharah vs top500 widow

[toxic yacht]

next game vs FaZe

haffi genji vs shadowburn

[digital pond]

Buds doesn't know where to go lol

[onyx hull]

that was funny

[balmy wolf]

Fnatic is throwing

[toxic yacht]

fnatic

lmao

[onyx hull]

throwing

[digital pond]

Sombra is actually decent on point B Anubis though.

So it's not fully bad.

[toxic yacht]

quick play comp

[vestal mortar]

I don't even

[digital pond]

She also eats zen.

[toxic yacht]

decent if you're a good team

and not vs rogue

[digital pond]

True

Free tick l0l

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[digital pond]

Fuck Mercy man.

GG

[toxic yacht]

tfw you emp

[forest raven]

How did BGH play

[onyx hull]

denied

[toxic yacht]

and rez

[digital pond]

Pretty well frankly.

[toxic yacht]

but rogue still wins

[digital pond]

They lost but every round with fnatic was very close.

[toxic yacht]

[digital pond]

LEL

[toxic yacht]

[balmy wolf]

Crushed

[toxic yacht]

Rogue showing NA teams

[onyx hull]

'report sombra pls'

[clever wagon]

Wow ZP

[digital pond]

Lmao

Knoxx survived

[balmy wolf]

Rogue is technically NA

[onyx hull]

zp with the roast

[balmy wolf]

Like nV

[digital pond]

Technically but officially EU.

[balmy wolf]

Obviously NA > EU

They're an NA organization

Reading that Shadder interview is so weird, I can't imagine him saying so much all at once

[toxic yacht]

madda madda

[balmy wolf]

*mada

If only his team was good lol

[clever wagon]

Right, it's 8 AM for RunAway

[onyx hull]

bgh vs rogue

lol

[forest raven]

RunAway's getting up

[toxic yacht]

runaway at 2 am

lol

like I'll watch that

morning draw, btw

you should have seen the last match

[balmy wolf]

yoyo

[toxic yacht]

Fnatic vs FaZe rematch

[vestal mortar]

I'll have to watch RunAway in the morning

[toxic yacht]

except that this time faze will crush them instead of a 3-2

[vestal mortar]

FaZe up! Woo!

[toxic yacht]

although it's online

[forest raven]

I woke up like half an hour ago @toxic yacht

[clever wagon]

I so want to tweet Kaiser "wakey wakey~"

[toxic yacht]

still morning <.<

[balmy wolf]

Faze 2-0'd BGH nice

[forest raven]

.> @toxic yacht

[balmy wolf]

@clever wagon are you confident in your team this tourney?

[forest raven]

What a salty fuck https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/604i54/twoeasy_on_twitter_how_to_over_hype_players_post/

[clever wagon]

Yeah why not?

2ez should just play competitive and submit his clips under a smurf Reddit account

Solves the problem

It's true the IDDQD clips posts are so r/ow flavored, but taking it personal like that just shows you're salty lul

[tight glade]

SUP DUDESS

Anyone wanna Duel me for 1 euro

or 3 or 5

i dont care

i'll beat anyone

I'm talking about Skillkingdom golf here btw

xD

Come on anyone dares to battle me?

[toxic yacht]

@plucky vortex daddy

[tight glade]

i already won 11 euros to night thatsss whatss up babyy

[digital pond]

<@&172950000412655616> Halp

[tight glade]

lol

[toxic yacht]

I already pinged scarlet

[tight glade]

pinged?

[toxic yacht]

anyway, now they shoudl have noticed

[tight glade]

why?!

[toxic yacht]

dragory

[tight glade]

im just genuainly asking

[toxic yacht]

yaay

[tight glade]

can anybody play with me

[quartz wren]

@tight glade First of all, this is esports discussion. Second, please don't advertise.

[tight glade]

advertise

wtf im just asking if anybody dares to battle me

im not advertising

[quartz wren]

Do that in #general-discussion!

[toxic yacht]

then take it to #general-discussion or some shit

[tight glade]

oh okay

np

sorry dudes

i'll ask there

[toxic yacht]

np bby

[tight glade]

cyaa

[clever wagon]

Loooooooool

[forest raven]

ZP is so fucking loud

[clever wagon]

Uggg move SDB to NA already

I need to see him pop off on proper ping

[balmy wolf]

OW World Cup

Did they confirm one for this year or not yet?

[toxic yacht]

nope

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uPb9V/0976c27b82.png

If I remember correctly that guy seems to be one of the Brazilians

[toxic yacht]

shadowburn on genji again

:Lewdy:

[vestal mortar]

Arhan Genji

[toxic yacht]

I think it's mostly a joke because arhan said he was better than genji

• arhan is a meme now

[clever wagon]

No

He's not joking

Not trolling

[toxic yacht]

🤔

[balmy wolf]

I just counted

[toxic yacht]

haffi genji vs sdb genji

:^)

[balmy wolf]

Selfless is on a 30 match winstreak right now

[forest raven]

Two of those are against the larger NA teams

The rest all against the smaller ones

[balmy wolf]

I know, but still

[toxic yacht]

tfw buds is more scared of sdb than soon

[forest raven]

Selfless will finally be a tested commodity by the end of the day

[onyx hull]

buds>

[balmy wolf]

I'm rooting for them besides Faze this tourney

[toxic yacht]

20 hp?

I'll just take two of you down with me

why did haffi dash again...

he almost had a good ult

[onyx hull]

haffi does it again

[vestal mortar]

[clever wagon]

Haffi uses Genji ult like I do, and I'm still practicing him in QP

That is, not being able to find kills and wasting the dash reset

[toxic yacht]

if we ever get player themed skins

pls giff shadowburn genji skin

wtf, buds had deadeye 100%

wut

[vestal mortar]

Yus pls

[toxic yacht]

hafficool

[clever wagon]

Yep, that's it

He did it again

[toxic yacht]

lmao

he's trash

[vestal mortar]

Every time

[toxic yacht]

wtf was that sword

[onyx hull]

best we could get would be tournament themed skins, like owl or something

[toxic yacht]

no excuses now

[vestal mortar]

Arhan genji > Hafficool genji

[toxic yacht]

^

[onyx hull]

lool

[toxic yacht]

at least arhan can get kills

[clever wagon]

Yeah that is up for debate

[toxic yacht]

hafficool was a mistake

[onyx hull]

he's really dragging the team down

[clever wagon]

Hafficool sure is showing he's a mid tier DPS

[toxic yacht]

haffi is such a meme thanks to that tweet

[balmy wolf]

Arhan lol

[clever wagon]

Hafficool created the perfect meme out of himself

It's self-sustaining

[onyx hull]

feeding ults and memes

[clever wagon]

People don't really need to repeat it over and over like the most common meme behavior

Because he's doing it himself

[balmy wolf]

Is it me or is Winston getting more usage than Zarya this tourney so far?

[clever wagon]

Triple dps dive is becoming more common tbh

I guess since Rogue in February OMM?

[toxic yacht]

why is faze throwing?

we're busy laughing at haffi

but not mentioning fail clan

[onyx hull]

loool

[forest raven]

R E K T

[toxic yacht]

also, this seems like a ping issue with how sdb is failing

all these hooks

[balmy wolf]

haha

Makes me wonder if the Winston bubble buff will go through

Since he's already getting so much usage

[onyx hull]

didn't they only nerf the bubble because of double winston stacking?

[toxic yacht]

they want it to be consistent with other heroes

like how orisa's cooldown starts like that too

[balmy wolf]

That ult LOL

but I guess that means they'll delete D.Va out of the game so people will stop complaining

[vestal mortar]

FaZe up! Woop!

[balmy wolf]

or ban anyone who plays her

[toxic yacht]

"Do you still favour FaZe goign into control"

FaZe is probably the strongest KOTH team in NA

especially back when twoeasy was there

well, rogue is probably better, but things are getting weird af atm anyway

[balmy wolf]

inb4 BGH beats Rogue

[onyx hull]

rogue would commit seppuku

[toxic yacht]

haffi dies first

again

[balmy wolf]

To a turret lol

[toxic yacht]

[balmy wolf]

Buds is carrying

[toxic yacht]

not even 1 tick

BUDS

[balmy wolf]

Dude a shitty SDB ult is still way better than any of Haffi's ults

[toxic yacht]

haffi got 4 kills

[balmy wolf]

NVM

[toxic yacht]

during cleanup

[onyx hull]

haffi did something

[toxic yacht]

after a ton of winston poke

[balmy wolf]

Welp, it's obvious who wins the Genji war

[toxic yacht]

with a nanoblade

[vestal mortar]

[toxic yacht]

okay, how did they fuck this up?

with new 2cp?

like, they wasted the nanoboost

[balmy wolf]

They're mid tier

[toxic yacht]

normal sword would have been fine

nanoblade was a waste

haffi killed shadowburn

haffi is doing things

tbh buds isn't really contributing a lot

he gets super good entry kills

but then kinda can't follow up

aaand haffi with the na blade

oh hey, buds is making me proud

[balmy wolf]

NAnoblade

[onyx hull]

uncontested widow

[balmy wolf]

wow

If Ana didn't kill SDB when he was chasing Buds running away they might've held

[clever wagon]

FaZe with the no-tank run

[toxic yacht]

I love these fucking retarded quad dps comps

zombs with the top 500 jukes

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PoliteEasyWebDxAbomb

Dang

[toxic yacht]

aaaand shadowburn gets another sword

[vestal mortar]

👌

[toxic yacht]

custa on zeny again, yay

[onyx hull]

buds with the carry

[balmy wolf]

Faze showing low tier NA team that they still are low tier NA team

[toxic yacht]

lol

"haffi needs to cool it"

hek off zp

[balmy wolf]

I love ZP

[onyx hull]

haffi ffs

[balmy wolf]

NO

[toxic yacht]

haffi

[balmy wolf]

Why does Faze always choke???

Okay nice

[toxic yacht]

lol, that spray

[balmy wolf]

Now don't fuck please

[toxic yacht]

quad dps nonense again

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3413/7635/original.jpg

[balmy wolf]

I swear to god if they choke this

What are they doing??

[toxic yacht]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

they want koth

[balmy wolf]

Classic Faze

Okay thank god

[toxic yacht]

shadowburn

killed himself

I think wallclimb bugged

hanamura ended in a draw, what a surprise

[balmy wolf]

I can't wait until the next 2cp update

They'll probably get rid of the ticks in favor of percentage building

As it should've been in the first place

[forest raven]

BGH got 2-0'd by Rogue, btw

[toxic yacht]

I'm so surprised

[forest raven]

kek

[balmy wolf]

Grass is green lol

[forest raven]

So BGH went 0-6 in groups

[clever wagon]

Hm

Trying to remember when did LG Evil run quad dps

[balmy wolf]

I don't blame them, look at their region

[clever wagon]

I remember Sojum also going something along the lines of "quad dps nonsense" when it was happening

[balmy wolf]

BGH lost to Rogue?1!?1/1?1?1?1/1?1?!11one

[forest raven]

WHAAAA

[balmy wolf]

I

Am

Flabbergasted

[balmy wolf]

LETS GO BGH

LETS GOOO

oh wait that happened already

nvm

[forest raven]

Yeah lol

[toxic yacht]

time to watch fnatic get bodied on koth

[balmy wolf]

Rogue has beaten FaZe and Fnatic 2-0?

[forest raven]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

Who was closer?

[toxic yacht]

shdowburn's pharah is insane

pls

[forest raven]

Rogue vs FaZe wasn't streamed

[toxic yacht]

don't call it a mistake

[balmy wolf]

Rogue is still undefeated since their comeback afaik

[forest raven]

Fnatic completed Hollywood in OT and Rogue completed it with like 2 and a half minutes @balmy wolf

Rogue got first in one push

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uPeBD/4b7cd5ff01.png

[balmy wolf]

LUL

Well they lost a map at least lol @forest raven

Unlike last melee

where they lost their first map in the finals

[forest raven]

Anubis, Rogue got both points with a good amount of time and Fnatic didn't get 2nd

Rogue didn't lose a map, Fnatic just completed the round

[balmy wolf]

Yeah round is what I meant

sry

[forest raven]

mhm

[clever wagon]

https://gyazo.com/d04e3fe64e3e578ec6ba8eb5d9e6d16f

[balmy wolf]

Yeah lol

Poor Jason

[toxic yacht]

mfw faze throws

[balmy wolf]

Does Faze ever not throw?

[forest raven]

Can this series end already

I want to watch RunAway and Selfless

[clever wagon]

FaZe read backwards is eZ aF

[toxic yacht]

lmao, shadowburn trying to reload 3 times

mfw I want to reload but low hp people keep running into my face

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

haffi goes down

WHAT

[balmy wolf]

http://i.imgur.com/QplQz2i.png

[toxic yacht]

lmao

haffi

[forest raven]

LOL

[toxic yacht]

fnatic doing their best c9 impression

while haffi is throwing

[balmy wolf]

ZP IS ANIME FAN CONFIRMED

[toxic yacht]

well, at least sdb is 60% to his ult again

after throwing it

rawkus fragging out

[clever wagon]

Overextension throw

[toxic yacht]

lmao buds

[clever wagon]

Truly

Shadowburn with Genji is like Miro with Winston

[balmy wolf]

Man I love pros with signature heroes

[toxic yacht]

lmao, he knocked him into high ground

and helped him get kills

[balmy wolf]

FAZE

aaaand another wasted Hafficool ult

[toxic yacht]

surprised

[clever wagon]

What a surprise

[balmy wolf]

NO

WHY?

[toxic yacht]

nanoblade when faze is back

no fear

[balmy wolf]

WHY CAN'T FAZE JUST NOT GO CLOWN MODE ONE TIME?

[clever wagon]

Thanks to that I can proudly say I use Genji ult in a similar fashion with a Fnatic player

[toxic yacht]

WAT

holy shit

[balmy wolf]

FUCK

EVERY TIME

[forest raven]

LUL

[toxic yacht]

god fucking damnit

I want to sleep

<.<

[balmy wolf]

I'm not surprised but at the same time I can't believe it

[toxic yacht]

"inconsistent" would most definitely be the ncie way to say it

lmao

[balmy wolf]

Mid tier would be an accurate way to say it

[spring lintel]

I am back what did I miss

Please tell me its not too much

[balmy wolf]

Rogue destroying

[sour wraith]

1-1

[balmy wolf]

Fnatic throwing

[spring lintel]

Did I miss alot

[balmy wolf]

yes

[toxic yacht]

wow, I'll be sleeping when uber + jkap is here

:/

[sour wraith]

just the casters tearing appart hafficool

[spring lintel]

Are you fucking kiddin me

Did I miss everything?

[toxic yacht]

haffi deserves to be torn apart

tbh

[sour wraith]

no its 1-1

[spring lintel]

Is it the first match?

[clever wagon]

Rogue destroying FaZe clowning Selfless up-and-coming Fnatic throwing

[sour wraith]

idk

[spring lintel]

STOP WHICH GAME IS IT

[toxic yacht]

slasher disappearing

thank god

[spring lintel]

plz don't tell me it gonna b over

[balmy wolf]

Its like game 6

[spring lintel]

Guys help

NOOOOOOOO

Omfg

Why

[toxic yacht]

3 more games after this

[sour wraith]

next game is going to be the best game

[spring lintel]

Why did My lil sister had to be sick on this day

WHHHY

[sour wraith]

selfless vs runaway

[spring lintel]

Good

[digital pond]

SDB pharah is fucking scary

[toxic yacht]

haffi :(

[digital pond]

Haffi got a kill

[sour wraith]

hafficool is basically a otp right?

[digital pond]

He needs to get one at least.

[toxic yacht]

also, I love soldier on well

[digital pond]

So he doesn't get fired.

If he's OTP he's a bad pro otp.

[toxic yacht]

also, mikeya stopped being shit

[clever wagon]

@sour wraith to be fair, no, but he's not on the same page as most DPS

[toxic yacht]

I forgot to mention it

[balmy wolf]

Hope your sister feels better soon @spring lintel

I also hope Faze doesn't lose this

[toxic yacht]

why did custa nano haffi?

wtf

there was a soundbarrier

he had no dash

and was attacking primal winston

[balmy wolf]

Hafficool vs Arhan

[spring lintel]

Aww thank you touko

Why do we only have 12k for faze and fanatic?

Wtf

[toxic yacht]

haffi dead again

[balmy wolf]

"only"

[toxic yacht]

[spring lintel]

Shouldnt we have like fucking 30k at least ?

[balmy wolf]

The melee rarely gets above 10k

[toxic yacht]

hek lucio

why did he nano haffi

stop

nooo

[balmy wolf]

Nah, this is still groups

[toxic yacht]

he wasn't going to do anything in that situation

[spring lintel]

So it's gonna be going for at least 5 hours right?

[balmy wolf]

Probably

The next group is coming up after this

[spring lintel]

Yaaas

[toxic yacht]

lmao zp

gg

gg ez

lol

[balmy wolf]

YES

GG

FAZE <3

http://prntscr.com/elotej

[toxic yacht]

lmao, everyone bringing up haffi's tweet

I'm gonna miss runaway's debute 😢

[balmy wolf]

What it they say? I missed it

[toxic yacht]

also uber and jkap

I forgot, lol

anyway, night

[sour wraith]

who needs sleep its the weekend

[balmy wolf]

Night Sojum

Let's go SELFLESS

Selfless beat BK Stars before

[forest raven]

RunAway isn't BK Stars

[sour wraith]

rip

[balmy wolf]

Jason said: "This is Selfless' first KR matchup"

so that's why

[forest raven]

Oh

Why is the game between the Korean team and the west coast team on east coast servers

[sour wraith]

i thought it was east coast playing on west coast

[balmy wolf]

It's back now

[clever wagon]

What happened

[balmy wolf]

After this match Selfless will have a 31 match winstreak

Ping issues and the stream went down

As always

[clever wagon]

Just started or have they finished first map

Ah first map

Yus

[forest raven]

"kaiser ur cute"

"lul i know"

[clever wagon]

It's somewhat fun seeing RunAway player names on English font

Ey ey

Don't forget

We also have nr. 1 Korean qt

Playing right now

[sour wraith]

selfless bullying

[balmy wolf]

WHAT IS GOING ON?

[forest raven]

200 ping against one of the best Tracers in the world

[balmy wolf]

LOL

This can't be real

[clever wagon]

RunAway's also here on invitation right?

As with all Monthly Melee teams

[spring lintel]

I am back

Again

So how is runaway doing

[balmy wolf]

Just watch

LOL WHAT IS THIS

[sour wraith]

selfless is pushing their shit in

[forest raven]

As far as I'm concerned, every single match for RunAway in the OMM has a big, fat asteriks right next to it

[balmy wolf]

SELFESS ALMOST GOT A 4:45 ON KINGS ROW AGAINST RUNAWAY?

LOOOOL

[spring lintel]

Runaway are grtting fucked

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uPj9U/ab8474101c.png

Well then yeah

[spring lintel]

You guys underestimate ping

[clever wagon]

200 ms is clearly a disadvantage

[spring lintel]

I am so confused how it's even possible

[forest raven]

They're on west coast servers

[spring lintel]

Still

[forest raven]

So probably like 120 - 150 ping

[spring lintel]

Wait wat

How?

120 ping?

[sour wraith]

runaway is playing in korea

[clever wagon]

120-150 vs flat <10 ms KR ping

Of course it matters

[spring lintel]

Ping is so huge

[clever wagon]

We've all seen NA team members streaming there, they all had lower than 10

[balmy wolf]

so why are they even playing?

[spring lintel]

I have tried playing with 20 ping and 120ping

[clever wagon]

Invited? Idk

[forest raven]

Because they want to compete

[balmy wolf]

You can't make an excuse like that if you are competing

[clever wagon]

I know they obviously can decline but well

[spring lintel]

Like those clutch reflects and hitscan is alot worse with high ping

[balmy wolf]

If they're losing solely because of ping it'd rather see an actual team competing

[forest raven]

I can guarantee you if RunAway was on their single digit Korean ping and Selfless had 120 - 150 ping, this match would be looking a lot different

[spring lintel]

Yeah definitely but why did runaway now scrim on these servers?

[forest raven]

But I will say, RunAway has probably never played against aggression as unbridled as Selfless'

[clever wagon]

That too

None of the western teams play looking like mad dogs like Selfless do

[spring lintel]

Runaway cant even push

Rip

[balmy wolf]

wtf

[spring lintel]

Lol

See

That ping

Know you guys know what it means

[balmy wolf]

This is so stupid

[sour wraith]

rouge is in NA now right?

[clever wagon]

Yes

They live in Vegas

[spring lintel]

Ping is such a huge problem and I dont know how people play with it and not rage

[sour wraith]

so this will end up as rouge v selfless in the final

[spring lintel]

I wonder what ping they have

I bet it's something like 200

[clever wagon]

I'll just put faith in my team

[spring lintel]

I really wish I can see how much ping they have

[sour wraith]

they said 195 before the stream crashed

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uPjFZ/b7ef88d85a.png

[spring lintel]

LOL

God I love mini dva

[balmy wolf]

LOOOL

[spring lintel]

Lol runner

[balmy wolf]

but yeah, I think using ping as an excuse when you know what you're getting when you enter is such bs

[clever wagon]

RunAway is coping with tight deathball play

[spring lintel]

They saw shadowburn and some other players and they thought it was okay?

Maybe something special is going on?

[sour wraith]

shadowburn is used to his ping though

[spring lintel]

Cause when that ana died from lucio that was VERY laggy

[clever wagon]

As much as you want to say "making ping as an excuse", you won't and can't deny it does make a difference

[sour wraith]

it does

it looks like runaway is getting used to the ping

[spring lintel]

Muscle memory get fucked with high ping

[balmy wolf]

Yeah sure

[clever wagon]

They're also making it up with tight deathball

[balmy wolf]

but a loss is a loss regardless of ping

[clever wagon]

Nobody said otherwise

[spring lintel]

Look at him lagging

[sour wraith]

SDB plays on NA ladder right or does he play EU?

[clever wagon]

No idea

[spring lintel]

My god haksal

It seems better now

[sour wraith]

the stream seems laggy to me

[clever wagon]

They needed time to adjust

[forest raven]

RunAway adapting to the ping feelsgoodman

[spring lintel]

Thats it for runaway

[sour wraith]

i want to see koth with this ping difference

[spring lintel]

Wow they are getting it

[sour wraith]

sinatraa vs 200 ping isnt fair

[digital pond]

LOL

[spring lintel]

Shit against immortals

[digital pond]

Everyone was so quick to say Ping wouldn't matter cause RunAway would win. Now everyone has excuses.

Ping matters man.

[spring lintel]

100% matters

It's insane

[forest raven]

Ping is a factor, but they've never played against a team like Selfless

[spring lintel]

Maybe

[forest raven]

THere is no team in Korea, no team in the world besides maybe LGE that is as aggressive as Selfless

[balmy wolf]

They also very rarely play with any ping at all

[digital pond]

^

Going from 6-7 ping to nything more is insane.

[balmy wolf]

All these ping excuses may affect the match, but it doesn't change the fact they're losing

[digital pond]

Don't know why people acted like it was nothing.

[spring lintel]

With 120 ping I sometime see the hanzo's arrow connect but it does no dmg

[clever wagon]

Like I said

[digital pond]

"They'll win anyway" it matters.

[balmy wolf]

Runaway is used to playing in Apex though

[clever wagon]

We all saw how crazy the KR internet is

[balmy wolf]

Which doesnt have ping

at all

[clever wagon]

NA team members streaming there all got less than 10 ms like fuck

[balmy wolf]

So playing on 120+ ping now is a whole new ballgame for Runaway

[past oar]

koreans play with 4-10 ms online

[balmy wolf]

I get less than 10 ms here in EU

[past oar]

that's a huge change

[spring lintel]

Who won the first group?

[balmy wolf]

As I said, they also get no ping in Apex

[forest raven]

btw, there is a difference between excuses and explanations

[past oar]

Apex is LAN

that's a whole different beast, man

[balmy wolf]

Rogue obvs @spring lintel

[digital pond]

I mean KR online tournaments IS LAN

Fucking 6 ms

[balmy wolf]

Rush I'm saying that Runaway are used to playing in Apex

So playing on 120+ ping is ridiculous for them

Yeah but if the main reason they're losing is because of ping, why are they even in this tourney?

[past oar]

i agree, man

[forest raven]

btw IMT 2-1'd LGE

[past oar]

ping does matter

[balmy wolf]

There's plenty of good NA teams that could fit in just fine

Instead of Runaway

[past oar]

SELFLESS would get destroyed in a LAN environment

[digital pond]

Wait

IMT won?

[clever wagon]

They got invited

[forest raven]

Yeah IMT won

[clever wagon]

Zz

[digital pond]

Damn they're improving.

[forest raven]

NGE IMT is back, baby

[clever wagon]

OMM is invitational, so...??????

[digital pond]

That's nice to hear IMT is getting back yp.

[forest raven]

IMT def slumped after NGE

[balmy wolf]

Obviously they wanted to enter despite the ping otherwise they wouldn't be playing

[clever wagon]

And what seems to be the problem?

[digital pond]

Yeah. I mean it's a good experience. We're chatting pre-emptively because people WILL over hype it.

Not taking away that Selfless is playing well.

[forest raven]

If I were RunAway, I wouldn't have passed up the opportunity tbh

[digital pond]

Any tournament is good practice.

[past oar]

it's work, man

[digital pond]

Especially since for them it's scrimming other regions.

[past oar]

why wouldn't they?

[digital pond]

They didn't get to do so often at APEX.

Most western team got dumpstered early.

[forest raven]

They obviously knew that there would be a ping difference, but playing in as many tournaments as possible is only a good thing

[digital pond]

Any tournament is good practice.

[clever wagon]

I think it's good for them to meet Selfless

Since none of the NA team in APEX was even half as aggressive

[forest raven]

This is also more practice for RunAway for the semis, because the quarters were on the old patch

[clever wagon]

Sinatraa and Dafran playing like they're out for blood

[balmy wolf]

I don't want to see a match that is apparently decided by ping

[digital pond]

My only fear is, I'm not sure how much Selfless is going to get from it. Mainly because right now the team's weakness is overly aggressive teams, which is the style of the Korean Dive meta. And they're not fully experiencing it currently.

[past oar]

who are these players from Selfless anyway? only know Sinatraa

[balmy wolf]

Just scrim then

[digital pond]

Unless they end up facing Rogue.

@past oar Emongg was a CS:GO player played tournaments sometimes and played with fl0m a lot.

Dhak is a spanish player.

Dafran is also European.

Rank 3 and 4 on the ladder.

Always been top 5 on both his account.

Kresnik is a high rank Tank main not sure about the past.

[past oar]

how did Sinatraa get into that EU mix, i wonder?

[digital pond]

He hit rank 1 on the ladder a few times.

Emongg/Kresnik and Sinatraa are NA.

[clever wagon]

Which region is Selfless based on

[digital pond]

Only Dafran and Dhak are EU.

[clever wagon]

NA right?

[digital pond]

They're in ATL.

[forest raven]

Selfless are all in a teamhouse

[digital pond]

^

It's an NA org.

[past oar]

Kresnik streams, right?

i think i've watched his stream before

[digital pond]

He did once.

Not in a while.

[balmy wolf]

This is another destruction

[digital pond]

Emongg is the most consistant of them all.

[spring lintel]

That BM tho

[digital pond]

He tries to stream daily.

[past oar]

Sinatraa has been afk from stream lately

[digital pond]

Can't wait for all the Selfless > LH comments l0l

[past oar]

he's not that pleasant to watch anyway

so toxic, lol

[digital pond]

Yeah.

[spring lintel]

You can literally see the delay

[forest raven]

Whelp

[spring lintel]

Lol

[digital pond]

He's lucky though Selfless has been taming him lately.

[spring lintel]

You can see the delay in tracking

[digital pond]

They have a good staff/

[past oar]

agree

his tracer is pretty nuts

[digital pond]

Ya

[forest raven]

Emongg's a pretty swell dude

[past oar]

just not sure about his communication

[digital pond]

His Sombra and Genji are also really nice.

[spring lintel]

Tracer against that ping is powerful

[digital pond]

He has a high winrate on both.

[past oar]

ping works in her favor, yes

[balmy wolf]

Okay then we'll see them against Rogue

[forest raven]

That will be fun

[digital pond]

Yeah it'll be interesting.

[past oar]

AKM's McCree vs Sinatraa's Tracer

Sin prob gonna get destroyed

lol

[digital pond]

When they played against CLG 2 days ago they definitely showed that teams that play aggressive against them work.

Mainly because defending isn't Selfless's storngest point.

[forest raven]

"Can't RunAway from spawn"

[past oar]

lol

[forest raven]

Yeah, Selfless is bad against aggression

[past oar]

is Sinatraa a 1 trick?

what else can he play at that level?

[forest raven]

If Selfless' past 30 maps are anything to go by, the entire team is a one trick

[clever wagon]

Right, if OW is favor the shooter, tanks like Rein and Winston will also have a hard time with their shields

[forest raven]

Selfless has run the same comp over and over

They've yet to meet a team who can make that comp not work

[balmy wolf]

*matches

[digital pond]

Sinatraa hasn't played anything else on tournament in a while. none of them really.

They have other heroes they play according to their profiles.

But they've ran the same comp for a few weeks now.

Mainly because it works.

[past oar]

i'm just asking if he can play other dps heroes up to his tracer level

[digital pond]

Iono he plays Genji and Sombra quite a bit a high elo about it.

[balmy wolf]

SINATRAA NOT ON TRACER?

????

[digital pond]

They haven't played another comp in tournaments.

He plays a lot of genji and sombra.

In Ranked.

[past oar]

i've seen him play genji, yea

but not sombra

[digital pond]

McCree is his fourth most played DPS

After Sombra

iirc

[sour wraith]

sinatraa is an ok mccree as well

[digital pond]

I mean I don't think he's the exact same level since he doesn't have to practice them as much.

Just like SoOn's tracer is above his other dps.

[past oar]

yea

[sour wraith]

but yea sinatraa is basically a tracer otp

[past oar]

after watching libero i was kind of amazed of how some players are mastering more than 2-3 heroes

[clever wagon]

Did you see Jake and Train at all

[past oar]

to a very high level, that is

[sour wraith]

Seagull has very large hero pool

[forest raven]

Tviq, Surefour, Libero, Flow3r

Those four can play like over half the roster at a pro level

[past oar]

yep

i mean Mendo too

he can play several heroes

[clever wagon]

Is Selfless weak on 2CP defense

They look like worlds apart on opposite sides

[forest raven]

Koreans in general are better on 2cp than western teams

[digital pond]

They seem to be weaker on 2CP.

[sour wraith]

I mean its like tf2 you have projectile players like seagull or sdb anfd then you have the hitscan players and most high level players can at least do one or the other competently

[digital pond]

Payload and Hybrid is their gamemode.

[forest raven]

ofc Selfless does have six and a half minutes left

[digital pond]

as far as i can tell

[sour wraith]

drawnubis

[past oar]

weren't Runaway just having connection issues?

[clever wagon]

RunAway improves with each half/round it does seem

[past oar]

wasn't that why stream took a break or something?

[clever wagon]

Pretty crazy

Woah this defense by RunAway

[sour wraith]

they were trying to get on a west coast server to try and get the pings more fair

[forest raven]

Ping is 80 for Selfless and 140 for RunAway

[past oar]

140 is tolerable

[digital pond]

They're getting used to the ping real fast.

[clever wagon]

Aaand twitch chat immediately jump opn the copypasta

[spring lintel]

140 is pretty tolerable

But it's not that good if you have never tried it

[sour wraith]

they are used to playing with sub 10ms ping

[forest raven]

If you had been playing on 5 ping for the past year, then went to 140, would that be tolerable?

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uPm1u/e15b863717.png

[past oar]

i just meant you can tolerate that ping, guys

chill out

lol

[sour wraith]

lol kres lust holding left click

[spring lintel]

No one said anything rush

[past oar]

i know it sucks

i play with 70-80 ping myself

[clever wagon]

2 minutes left

RunAway is actually holding pretty well

Eh, RunAway lost Kox on Ana

[past oar]

D.va trying to finish Soldier lmao

[clever wagon]

He back

[past oar]

you could clearly see the ping acting up

[sour wraith]

lol

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[clever wagon]

Woah Haksal clutch blade

[balmy wolf]

They got held

with 6:30

[forest raven]

That was fun

[balmy wolf]

Next week iBP announces that they pickup the SelflessGG roster

[spring lintel]

WTF

They won?

[past oar]

yes

[clever wagon]

Haksal clutched with his blade

[spring lintel]

Nicuuu

[clever wagon]

There it is, POTG

[forest raven]

[clever wagon]

Damn

[forest raven]

LOL

THEY ALL HAVE ILLIDAN AS THEIR PICTURE

THAT'S AMAZING

[clever wagon]

LOOOL Slasher

[sour wraith]

notice that RunAway is only running 1 hitscan. projectile is somewhat more playable with high ping

[clever wagon]

Also

[past oar]

that game just shows how much better they are

[clever wagon]

Notice that RunAway didn't run stall hero like Mei to the last second

[past oar]

Sinatraa tilted already

prob raging by now

lol

[spring lintel]

I really wish players would stream

[balmy wolf]

Their tourney games?

[spring lintel]

Yeah

[clever wagon]

That would allow stream sniping

[digital pond]

Holy turn around.

[clever wagon]

There's no saying what their audience would do

[forest raven]

tbh I wouldn't even record pro games, let alone stream them

[spring lintel]

They can delay

[digital pond]

Yo that fucking nade.

[sour wraith]

disgusting

[clever wagon]

That fucking nade

[spring lintel]

Woah

[sour wraith]

they had a family

[digital pond]

Well then players have to go "Do I wanna stream lose fps and performance or win?"

[clever wagon]

What's the term for that kind of snipe throw again

[digital pond]

Snipe throw?

[spring lintel]

Oh ur right

[sour wraith]

kobe

[clever wagon]

Yeaaah Kobe

What a Kobe

[digital pond]

Oh lol

They got dunked man.

That was some fat ass Shaq dunk.

[clever wagon]

Dummy better do his share of Kobe nades as well

Make Shaq proud

[digital pond]

Haha

[spring lintel]

Wtfo

That ult

[clever wagon]

Sinatraa tilted?

LOOOL KAISER

What hold was that LUL

[forest raven]

THE OT STRATS FROM KAISER

[spring lintel]

That lag tho

[clever wagon]

Woah damn

RunAway pushing

[past oar]

are control maps bo5?

[clever wagon]

Yes

Wow that sleep initiator by Kox

Caught Kresnik good

[spring lintel]

What is the chat doing?

[forest raven]

Sinatraa said "?" in chat after he was slept

[clever wagon]

LOOL

[spring lintel]

Oh

[clever wagon]

KAISER ASSERTING DOMINANCE

[forest raven]

[spring lintel]

Lol

[past oar]

LMAO

that blade

[clever wagon]

Rooting for ma bois LG Evil tho

[spring lintel]

Is there a rule about using default skins?

[clever wagon]

First time facing a Korean

[forest raven]

HAKSAL

[clever wagon]

@spring lintel yes, all tourneys

[spring lintel]

Why?

[forest raven]

All tourneys above $10k prize pool

[clever wagon]

Standardization reasons etc

[forest raven]

God, Haksal is so fucking good

[clever wagon]

HAKSAAAAAAAAAL

https://puu.sh/uPnmi/ad051890b5.png

[spring lintel]

They are getting used to the ping dude

[past oar]

lol Runner

[clever wagon]

Dhak and Michael3D made roasted sliced ducks out of themselves

[spring lintel]

R5 probably

[forest raven]

I feel like RunAway keeps taking the point off the back of Haksal's dragonblades

[spring lintel]

Soldier with that ping is gonna feel weak

[balmy wolf]

so will Runaway make it through now they're getting used to it? What do you guys think?

[spring lintel]

50/50 for me

[clever wagon]

Could go either way

[past oar]

Runaway is managing their ults pretty poorly

[spring lintel]

LOOOL

Runner

Haksal carry

Runner is throwing

[forest raven]

ggs

[balmy wolf]

gg

[past oar]

can't just rely on blades

[spring lintel]

Woah 6tuple

Haskal was one of the only ones that played great

[past oar]

have Selfless and LG played already?

[spring lintel]

Runner was a lil shit lucio main

[solid spear]

Great series

[clever wagon]

Goddammit Slasher

Now

It's time for my team to shine

[past oar]

what's next game?

[forest raven]

RunAway vs LGE

[past oar]

then LGE v Selfless next?

[forest raven]

RunAway vs IMT

[solid spear]

Nah

Yep

[forest raven]

The semis tomorrow could very well be Rogue vs RunAway

And Selfless vs FaZe

(lol)

[balmy wolf]

Who won

[spring lintel]

Selfless

[balmy wolf]

Nice

[spring lintel]

Runaway got stomped

[forest raven]

On KR

Nepal was a bit back and forth

Two rounds of 100-99

[clever wagon]

How was that a stomp

[forest raven]

KR was a stomp

Anubis and Nepal were good games

[clever wagon]

I was replying to BAAAM

[spring lintel]

How are they going to face Immt?

With 200+ ping

I am trying 220 ping right now and it literally almost impossible

[balmy wolf]

IMT picked it up apparently against Hammers

[solid spear]

These groups are so imbalanced though

[forest raven]

Yeah, if their 3-0 against RNG in the OCS and their win over LGE today any indication, then IMT is returning to form

[balmy wolf]

@solid spear how would you make the groups then?

Swap BGH with IMT or something?

[forest raven]

Honestly, group B has four potential grand finalists

Group A has one

[solid spear]

I mean I wouldn't put 4 of the 5 best teams in one group at least

[balmy wolf]

Otherwise it'd be 2-0s all around, like APEX

[solid spear]

It's not that big a deal anyway

[balmy wolf]

As long as I get to see some hype matches I'm satisfied but that's just me

[solid spear]

But thought I'd throw it out there

[balmy wolf]

Yeah, ZP is really really loud

Evil vs Evil

lol

[forest raven]

That was an over commit from RunAway

[balmy wolf]

Oh wow it's 4am already lol

[forest raven]

rip

[balmy wolf]

No point in going to sleep now