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Exactly
I'm mainly waiting for OWL because once it does come out that will bring investors and orgs out of the woodwork.
Yes
No one not in already, wants to do anything right now in the meantime.
So many big orgs waiting for OWLs
At the risk of giving up players etc etc
And even sports teams
Ya
Yeah but
Lot of Sport players and team owners are interested.
They can, but they can also prep their org and just wait it out.
Having money doesn't mean throwing it to the wind either.
So most are just gonna be patient.
The thing is a lot of "teams" not supported by orgs and such do exist and are scrimming and such.
So I'm sure future investors are informed and keeping up with it already and scouting.
I don't think their going to wait until fucking august to release all the details about the League
And Org owners already involved probably want more orgs to join in.
And are sharing information with them.
Probably
I thought it was September, it's what Jake said.
We plebs are the ones that don't know shit yet
Probably ya.
Yeah
What I'm saying is that I don't think they're going to wait until august to release details with the league coming the month after
Maybe to us.
I hope not
I think they'll feed info to the investors way earlier.
Probably already started to.
Since the one thing slowing them was mainly contracts and legal papers.
They have to start a marketing campaign for the league a couple months before the league happens I reckon
The structure probably has been figure out in general.
We're after all the main consumer for it
Troo
I think they will, isn't there something else aside from PAX between now and September?
E3
I don't mean like a full force pannel.
They probably will have stands and events and stuff, but I don't think they start campaigning on it
With tons of cosplayers a la dragon con
Oh well, yeah
I just hope they put a replay feature for the matches
And cosmetics
I want esports cosmetics.
I think they need to with OWL
Make it so Blizzard.
Frankly if they wanna add a viewing system and do it well they need to make it similar to Dota 2.
From what Nate said
We'll probably get much of that stuff for OWL
I hope so the way Valve set it up is really better than most games with a viewing system.
Not saying replay because it has just so much more as far as tournaments go.
Casters have been asking Blizzard for replays since beta
They're considering at the very least
If not developing rn
I'm surprised Tournament Realm is so limited that stuff like OMM have to use custom rooms on live.
Wait no scratch that.
I do think they're working on it along side OWL.
Did any tournament even use Tournament Realm besides World Cup and Apex?
Not that I know.
Wait and team the Hype
Soon TM
SoOn™

@digital pond btw, are you just someone who changed their name? Or new? You suddenly popped up an became mega productive
Let's make a directory of active peeps for Sojum
I like knowing whom I talk to on a regular basis :P
Am I on the directory? 
Yee
I haven't changed my name recently, I joined the discord very recently that might be why 😄

^weeb
Thanks 😄
!
Lmao
Artist who made it is really good.
Not you Anem, you're good
Oh wait
I thought it was from an anime and Sojum recognized it because of his weebness
walks away akwardly
Thank mr anem
o7
Damn
Jokes aside, that's pretty good
OMG YOUR PROFILE PIC IS ACTUALLY ZARYA
O M G
O M G
😄
lmao
@C9Grego But you're such a great Lucio! If you need to, you can just hit the 'H' key and switch heroes from there. 😎
Whoever is in charge of OW social media is an actual savage
I feel like the burn would be more impactful if it wasn't answering to a mechanic they caused to be too good to not use lmao.
If im not mistaken its Griff
He studied under the Wendy's Twitter handler.
Wat.
wut
👀
Hot steamy news, or am I late https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5yp0xq/zebbosai_from_misfits_is_doing_his_first_stream/
Twitch.tv/zebbosai He's duo queuing with tviq. Also interesting he said nevix will now go DPS, he will go support, and Mannetan go tank. Tviq...
Misfits figured it out!!!!!!
TviQ been streaming a lot these past 2 weeks,.
Oh wait
Zave
I mean,TviQ's tweet pretty much confirms Zebbo will Ana
So wait is Zebbo replacing Nevix?
Zebbo got them aims
Or did he already replace him and I'm late.
nevix was a support player
Zebbo is ana
Yeah I remembered him facing LH with Misfit in APEX.
although he went dps on misfits for a while some time back
Zave is Lucio
when he went dps
Zebbo is liveeee
misfits won 2 majors
In Mid Feb
Drop in on his stream!
So I guess Nevix been gone for a bit.
I'M watching tviq's stream
Zave has always played Lucio
WHY TF DOESN'T HE TWEET IT WHEN HE'S GOING LIVE FFS
And with the amount of Widow Zebbo has been playing recently id say its safe to say hes ana
Also the tweet of him wearing the tal mask
@digital pond nah, they're just swapping roles
Nevix is going dps
where he's better anyway imo
and zebbo is taking his role
Nevix' Mercy 
Gotcha. I see Zebbo was playing Zarya and such.
Yeah but Zave has only played Lucio
then tviq went dps and my eyes opened
Yeah
was super disappointed to see him go support
Oh they're duo-ing
I didn't see TviQ in Zebbo's sights yet
That's a yes
have a potential to become the strongest dps tag team in ow
Never seen Nevix play DPS so I can't comment.
I for one, am fucking hyped
Hyped to see it tho.
WE NEED A LAN ASAP
nevix was insane back when he was dps
What team did he play on?
Gotcha
and they completely reshuffled their roster
Yeah the exchange with Rogue and such.
yee
They also confirmed moving to NA
:/
I mean to be fair a lot of the tournaments orgs are mainly hosting in NA.
oh wow what a surprise
And Teams aren't gonna move to EU to scrim.
On that note, IddQ needs to move to NA soon.
And Numlocked.
130 ping scrims are probably hella annoying.
They probably will
They will move when the roster is finalized
With that ping on scrims IDDQD is probably a top tier Pharah by now
well, friend apartments
SoOn TM
Sooner they move sooner we get to see them play.
SoOn™
Are they still doing tryouts? Or just waiting to make the announcement?
These APEX open mic clips are pretty good
If Harb is actually joining it's probably contract shit.
Not really @digital pond
I hope he is
they've been scrimming with these same friends for an awfully unnatural amount of time
Doesnt matter if they move now or in 2 weeks
we wont see them play till the end of march
They're playing at the end of the month and I don't think IDDQD and Numlocked will have moved by then.
Oh well. If anything I hope thye move for the player sake themselves to play on lower ping v0v
NRG will move them
uwu
And what do you mean contract shit?
Yeah they are working on Visas last time Dummy spoke about it and he said things are in the works.
about how they can't confirm it yet
And I met the whole CoL situation I'm assuming even while not playing harb was under contract.
meant*
Buying him out wont be a problem for nrg lel
Haha
"Oh, nvm, I thought you're making a joke about the owner of my org"
Is the Selfless Owner the only one in GM?
Aww man, somebody should make a montage of all of Harb's hints and slip ups
😉

Hammers' new roster introduction montage looks pretty sick
Link? @clever wagon
Ouh
Introducing Hammers Overwatch—get a glimpse of the Hammers in our newest team montage! #HAMOW #HAMMERTIME https://t.co/SC01hzdPQm
Sry I have desktop notifications turned off
@forest raven
Thanks
Hellow, where i can advertise about tournament overwatch?
I believe contacting one of the Admins would be the best way to get it advertised.
Woaw Hammers acted fast.
Dignitas
NIP
@digital pond From what I've been hearing 'round here, Chavs is ripe for the picking anyways
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@limber pine Orgs are getting ready for OWL ?
woot woot
Wonder how many teams will be in it
I'm excited to see what that does for OW and esports in general.
Will this be the first time a proper league framework has been put around an game?
I mean I'm hyped they found another squad to sign. Just was fast don't know why just wasn't expecting them to get it going so soon.
i had a discussion with someone about esports in general
and he had an interesting point
@dusty surge Probably. At least on that scale.
he said one og the reasons that esports aren't as big as they should be is that games are owned by companies
real sports aren't
which allows game companies to have more leeway than they should
Yeah I mean the big thing for example with league is the limit of teams in LCS. There's also constant inconsistancies because Riot owns anything that has to do with th egame.
Thus giving them absolute power.
Well, all the "big" sports are effectively owned as far as league play is concerned.
They are but, not in the same way as far as actions.
Or at least it's not as blatant how involved they are in comparison.
Maybe I don't understand the actions being discussed here.
^
everything from wages to rules in the sport
i wanted a esport player's union
and more money involved obviously
The issue of lacking player union came up when a team threatened to sieze a kids' home if he didn't play for example a couple years ago in league.
What the fuck?
yeah like wtf
And the discussion was good, but the Union is still inexistant.
honestly
They didn't they would be taking it as colateral.
In the end Riot intervened and took some sanctions but the team and org still was able to keep on playing in LCS even after the event.
They even got new players.
wat
Eventually they got relegated because of losing but it wasn't them being forced out.
But I think the benefit OWL has is being set up like some traditional sports with the representation of actual places.
With no limitations on teams and such.
Well obviously him not playing was against his contract and I think he had no way of paying them back as he was 18 and this was his only job.
The person who threatened to take his house was indeed fired for it too.
I believe his mother co-signed the contract with him.
So they were threatening her house basically.
Well the individual was.
Yeah, that's what I expected -- something with a signing bonus and contract shenanigans.
So they were probably within their rights -- as shitty as they were. So a union would help prevent those kind of contracts from being drafted up to begin with.
Yeah definitely within their rights, and since there's no player union and such they didn't expect any backlash.
Until the entire sub reddit took up in flames.
And yeah it would definitely help if players had some kind of organization at the legal level.
Gotcha
@toxic yacht Did you see what Zebbo said about Misfits? He's going support, Mannetan's going tank and Nevix is dps
Nevix is good DPS
Ya he did Draw
Cool
:d
Waoh JKap is GM? Who does he play mostly
dps I think
70 fps in GM, while I'm just sitting in plat with 120fps+
Im on a laptop lul
I need healing
Jason Kaplan, a caster @hoary pagoda
And Shake from col is another kaplan lol
Apparently there's quite a bit of Turkish ancestry in the Overwatch scene 🤔
Next hero turkish confirmed
make the hero gobble
Using the kaioken!
Kebab sword!
Lol!
I have a question
What do pros think of the current bastion?
Even stranger is their rumored setup for 2/2/2 compositions—many believe that NiCO will fill out the Lucio role while winz returns to Zarya for more traditional selections when a Genji is unnecessary. KnOxXx himself has not even played Reinhardt, the traditional "main tank."

aKm's Pharah


Nico on Lucio whut
And this is Rogue's conumdrum
If NiCO learns Zarya and KnoxXx learns Rein their current set up can work
But switch any of it around, and there's always a position that's vacant
let's be honest, Reinhardt is hardly rocket science
even at pro level
granted a great rein can make a difference, but a pro player should be able to learn a good rein easily
Yeah I was also really confused when I read that article, can't even imagine Nico on Lucio haha
Yes but compared to all the other Rein mains he would play against who have so much more experience on the hero than KnoxXx does
It does matter
Dae remember Miro vs Kaiser? 
you mean, at that point,might as well pick up another player who's already good at rein?
though team chemistry is hard to replace
Honestly the rest of Rogue could carry KnoxXx as he learns Rein
And yeah he's been with most of the roster for months
the French Connection
If NiCO does go to Lucio and Winz goes to off tank, then Rogue will have no reliable projectile player
Does Anybody Else
😛
Knoxx is a top tier 1 lucio
Yeah, but there isn't another player who can main tank besides him
Man in this most recent scrim montage from dummy they're like exclusively scrimming Liquid
And someone else isn't it
Seems to be Liquid and Fnatic
Yeah its like
Highlights vs Liquid
Then Fnatic
Then IMT
Dude
That stagger
on Hyped

Cant wait to see them play
"It's so fun grabbing the training bot off the map."
"Sucking people off?"
"What?!"
"Huh?"
kek
Numlocked 
Yeah
And Dummy is such a fucking memer
he boosts lucio for the memes
tfw you start to doubt ShaDowBurn because of Haksal and Whoru and he uploads this
Are embeds kill? 🤔
I can see it @toxic yacht
Ah, I can see it too now. Just my phone being a tard
Also his predictions even on 200 ping
ShaDowBurn's amazing
FaZe seriously needs a teamhouse, they'd be a tier 1 NA team if they got one
They were T1 back in EU :( They kinda shot themselves in the foot by kicking TwoEasy right before dive made a comeback, Mikeya just doesn't cut it and isn't nearly on his level. Also, 2 projectile DPS. I seriously hope that Mikeya gits gud. #MakeFaZeGreatAgain

Shadowburn deserves to be in a better team
Also, that's the thing with the young Koreans like Haksal and WhoRU atm
They're mostly pushed into the one-trick star position
If Miro is Winston himself, then SDB is Genji
He uses Genji kits like surgical blade
Man I'm literally scared watching his Genji
You should see Necros
Who?
... Huh
Watch this GIF on Gfycat. Discover more Overwatch GIFs, overwatch GIFs on Gfycat.
Here's a play from 8 months ago
RYUJEHONG IS 26???? WATT?
what what?
Ayyy
@toxic yacht https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6pVJuVVoAE6CI7.jpg

👀
Esport related 👀
Esports
esporn... i mean... esport
i like global offensice because there are team emotes and there's none here 😑
inb4 someone slap in my face his nitro
Lol
Rip
i really want the 49'rs to win the overwatch cup
I'm really not gonna be surprised if Kaiser himself somehow ended up dropping a msg here
I would
In fact @pine star for a brief moment I thought it was actually Kaiser
Ur profpic gnnnnn
I've been looking at Kaiser's tweets too much
👌🏻
Fuckin lit 👌🏻
49? Kaiser? Wut
Kaiser retweeted me FeelsGoodMan
What's dat?
a gif tweet
Man the boys of LH are really just like boybands
No idea what that is
Echo Fox is a professional eSports organization which fields teams in League of Legends, Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 , Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Street Fighter V, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Mortal Kombat X. The organization was founded after Rick Fox bought the LCS spot of Gravity Gaming for around US$1 million. The organization expanded into Counter-Strike: Global Offensive by signing a team called Torqued on January 26, 2016.
Yee boi taimou n Kaiser planning to duo q
Huh
Welp never heard of them in CSGO, but theb again I only know names like NiP, astralis, SK, G2, FaZe, NV, C9 and a few others
If Echo Fox is joining there will definitely be a lot of orgs coming from stuff like dota and league.
Rick attracts people by existing.
Astralis is like REUNITED, i find it difficult to expand
SK and G2 had a team, most likely they will come back
And yes, anem, i posted it because fox attract others and its a pretty huge org
Besides them, are there any other really big orgs that have yet to touch Overwatch?
There's EG, Optic, TSM obviously doesn't have a team atm etc.
NaVi. Alliance. both would be great too.
First and foremost I want CSGO orgs joining in 😮
Well, NiP c9, dig and such have OW teams.
Hopefully with OWL ya.
I mean I did hear/read somewhere some time ago that G2 was looking to expand to OW but backed off because of.... uh, put really short, scene's age n shit
Make sense, probably waiting to see how it goes before diving in.
Yeah
Virtus Pro
Flipside
SK T1, Rox
Alliance
G2
I want to see SK >_>
Hope that they wont take any Brazilian team lul
What why lul
Cuz i dont know if they can compete at top level
That's why
South america scene is like the oceanian onr
Black Dragons are the best team (for gosu) in BR
Fusion girls is top 5 on gosu
But both didn't truly compete in serious tournaments
Dont ya guys forget that na orgs can get kr team too
Afaik there are kr team that are na orged
iirc tsm for example
I like the rivalry, so to speak, between the west and Korea, though
I think as more western teams get the support staff like LG and C9 is getting/has, the gap between KR and the west will get smaller
It's too early to accept kr overlords
Agreed, but I do think there is currently a skill gap between the KR teams and the western teams
Fnatic played shit, c9 too, misfits had an hard group, envy had hitten hard since post meta tank

Lol, /r/cow has already went all Korean Overlords while downvoting anyone who explains why it's not that time yet
I agree that the west should step it up, but c'mon, it's not that far yet
French overlords?
The fact that LG has a coach and I think analysts is a good sign
For both teams, I assume
Any announcement of who will replace Mineral and Eissfeldt?
No
Poor Mineral
Prob they will drop loyal pretty soon
Korean domination is inevitable, but we can at least delay it as much as we can, lul. I give it until 2018 when we are dominated, but atm KR and EU are at a similar level
They will drop them one by one lmao
Nah, I don't think LG wants to lose players like Spree and Hidan
Yee, they picked up evil to drop loyal for the OWL, probably
Feelsbad for loyal. So much talent, but they just can't make it work
Rob > Hidan?
When one team is winning, and fhe other is pretty poor
Hidan is one of the best main supports in ow, pls
Hidan'll get picked up quick if LGL is dropped
Truly good playrr doesn't stay team less for long
He just happens to be on a sub par squad
LG you vs LG the guy she tells you not to worry about
No draw... The team is doing amazing without him
Luminosity Gaming is she
Kinda tilting, in theory LGL should be crazy good
"I SWEAR I will not drop you sweetie"
What @rapid oxide ?
kek
lmao
LGE's team chemistry is ten times more important than their individual skill
^
I don't think they will accept changing anyone on their roster
They've been together since bird noises
But it's not the old tf2 team. :p
He's good
And Jake said they wouldn't sign Hammers if they didn't sign everyone, so
Yeah
Jake should be the ambassador for the esports scene tbh
I wouldn't mind having his firstborn

He's far more popular and just as humble, knowledgeable and articulate
waiting for @clever wagon fan boysm
I was about to bring up Seagull
Brandon should flat out become the eSports representative for OW, tbh
Yeah Seagull is the chilliest chill guy that has ever chilled
I love how insightful are his streams
Qtpie gets more views tha lcs
Most tournaments*
Only the biggest tournies pull in mode views, lul
So it's not just ow
How many did the WC get?
This doesn't happen in csgo doe
WC?
Summit is too multigamers
Peak was 200k
Or something
250 iirc
Such a terrible tourney
Showdown 100k?
That NA LOL tourney tho, tfw Faker decides to stream during it 
Hi are you the real tviq
I mean, videos, twits etc..
Other tournaments... Kinda ignored
Indeed open had 40/50k peak
No, I'm just a disgusting fanboy
Apex 40k
He's actually Zebbosai
Lmao
He's actually aKm
He's actually Kitty
Good lord no
Blizzard kinda ignores everything unrelated to them :/ Would rather retweet fanart
They have their own server and even then barely any of them talk
They put effort in atlantic and wx
Wc
Not on other stuff
Im pretty sure ow won't die until blizz is willing to advertise it
And pump moneys
Sub Nitro or sub Harbleu? 
Theres pros on the server
But only few ever talk
Indust and Rob420 came in here over the last week
Veineless is a mod also
Harb @pine star 
Was
Was?

He's distinguished 2016 or 2015 now
@primal nacelle have my children
Ew



Forsen sub 

Teach me how to play all dps pls
@toxic yacht contain yourself
Also, so happy I changed my avatar now, lol

How do you think you'll do with the upcoming roster changes? @primal nacelle
we'll see
The good ol' politician answer 
👀
Nevix + TviQ on dps 
hes a shithead

@edgy remnant how convenient that we have a verified role, right?
sup
That guy

So tiviq
this season ?
some people dont want the attention
lmao
lul
TviQ is the new Teo
Välfärd for Tviq
Pinku name 
if they want to be 100% sure
i just checked links
amazing, I know
in 2 years
I'll be nr 1 EU and not plat anymore
and also get the role
you guys will see
I believe in you Sojum
:o

Genji 1v1
I'd pay for that
that name change
my 33% shuriken accuracy


I look away for 30 mins to do work and I missed the party
lol, you go away for 30 minutes and miss tviq 
😭
pff, get on ShaDowBurn's level
what r u srs
45%
@vestal mortar where were you?
38% top 1
a rare tviq spotting
TviQ, why russian flag as icon ?
Asking for a friend
around as in, you've been lurking for a while now?
Yeah lol @primal nacelle
=))))))
I was pretty surprised aswell
embarassing


He's been watching 👀
Can I have verified role ?
who even are you
verified symmetra main
Can assure you I am the real one
you random weeb
@balmy wolf btw, deflected teo's graviton yesterday 👀
Nice
Test
🤔
Join mine
He's getting dem emotes
to get dem thinking emotes

i am an efficient man

























At least not light theme
im not a monster

Rekt



I had to
one shall always appreciate memes regardless of origin
and ESL a bit
hi welcome to chilis
You are a big guy
For you
esca god of na ults

when esca does something
it's actually zunba
remember
those 3 subsequent kills
were also zunba
Zunba just played on two PCs. Obv.
zunba obviously shielded esca on one pc while headshotting a bunch of people on his other pc
esca is so bad because he's actually zunba's alt
and since he's too busy playing zarya and a mediocre dva on one pc
Esca Zunba's smurf confirmed
he can't play esca properly on the other one
Overwatch esports conspiracies
🤔
It's all Tajum fault obvs 
tajun was the problem
just like TwoEasy
FaZe is definitely a stronger squad
now that TwoEasy is gone
Tajum
Tojum
Sojum
Tajum possessed Esca's mouse when he left 
shit, the secret is out
@vestal mortar LMFAO
I'm actually tajun's alt

I can't believe it!
I always knew something seemed fishy about you 👀
Harsha: "TviQ + Nevix is potentially the best western DPS duo. Hope this is the lineup that Misfits sticks with."
TwoEasy: "@ggHarsha both great projectile players but hitscan? Not too sure."

wat
TwoEasy 
brb linking to TviQ's cree
also, his 76
and widow
and tracer
and every other hitscan
also, nevix's 76
He went full derp 
and cree
WOW
yeah i used to watch tviqs mccree
I was too busy watching aKm's McCree
"but hitscan"
https://youtu.be/RQL5A5tCAIA?t=43m7s
actually, ima make a clip and a video of that, brb going to twitch
Why would you watch aKm's Cree when you can watch his Pharah? 
aKm Pharah > SDB Genji Obv. 

aKm Pharah > ShaDowBurn Pharah
aKm Pharah > Haksal Genji
aKm Pharah > XQC's Orisa
You put me in a rough position Polo 

🤔

Better version of "No hitscan player"
https://clips.twitch.tv/BoringArborealStinkbugRaccAttack
also, I just made a gfycat of it
Obviously he didn't flick enough. He's tracking and thus inferior.
yeah, that must be it
Hanzo only ya.
I'm better at cree, obv
🤦
Seagull just got the benefit of having access to closed beta and being the more popular TF2 player
Happy now @rapid oxide



Y'all can read
Ahh from a much earlier conversation I see
Yes
@clever wagon you missed TviQ didn't ya
lul, coming from a convo that ended 10 years ago
I was busy with learning about the Yoko Taro universe and working on an assignment at the same time
Sojum must have been as wet as the ocean
😊

maaaybeeee
Why do you think he changed his name back to Sojum? 

Yeah

now what was that
Ahh
lmao
There he is
haHAA
He's watching us
👀
Hello @primal nacelle
LOL

We were just talking about how Sojum is your biggest fan
i see everything
He has a shrine with pictures of you in his room @primal nacelle
lmao
😂

this is too much
Yeah saw that
Oooh! 😮
talespin replacing ryb so that they have 4 dps
I don't think it's a hint, tbh
Yeah pretty sure he was just saying cloudy lol
C9 sister team confirmed
TSM is my bet
is like shooting youself in the foot
I still find it amusing that nV had TviQ and Mendo at some point
Who will Echo Fox pickup is my question though
those two guys would fix all of nV's current issues, lul
hero pool related, at least
That wasnt Envy though
Yeah
That was IDDQD
IDDQD
That was IDDQD
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