esports-discussion

[digital pond]

Without fully closing the path to force them to funnel through a tight spot if they tried to.

[forest raven]

Lookin like a 3-0

[onyx hull]

gg

[forest raven]

Revenge FeelsGoodMan

[rapid oxide]

Grill screaming

[vestal mortar]

Awwww they are having such a good time

[onyx hull]

more mei please 👌

[digital pond]

His mei walls are really nice man.

[rapid oxide]

Prob best mei in the world

[digital pond]

Bubbly isn't giggling.

The world is a dark place.

[forest raven]

[digital pond]

[balmy wolf]

Looking like another APEX classic

[cunning gate]

I miss season 1

I was always looking forward to the bang bang bang break

[rapid oxide]

I miss Atlantic showdown

[forest raven]

I need more Jkap and Uber in my life

[rapid oxide]

^

[forest raven]

Hex/ZP and Monte/DoA are great

But we need the last duo back

[clever wagon]

Its on that Reddit post containing info from LTJ stream

[rapid oxide]

I agree 100%

[clever wagon]

EscA shotcalls and acts as assist DPS for WhoRU

Basically LH right now is pushing whoRU to be their star player

[onyx hull]

yeah esca is obviously not going for big dick plays

[clever wagon]

And you cant deny that it's been working excellently until RunAway, for some reason only players themselves would know

[onyx hull]

prepatch 2cp?

[rapid oxide]

Wtf are they eating ? A gum?

[umbral palm]

Which patch are they playing?

[forest raven]

1.7

Old 2cp

For the rest of quarters

[digital pond]

The failed Winston jump fucked that dive.

[vestal mortar]

Whoru is too good

[digital pond]

I mean 3 people invested themselves to launch their bodies at Esca.

He had all the room plus extra to eat the support.

[forest raven]

Old 2cp

[balmy wolf]

Oh man

I don't get the APEX logic

"Oh this gamemode had to get updated because it was broken and unfair but let's have these pros still play it for lots of money"

[digital pond]

I think it's more in relation to ALL the other change in the patch.

Blizz isn't going to give them 1/8th of the patch to include.

[forest raven]

Well they don't want balance changes to come in in the middle of a section of the tournament

[onyx hull]

can't you see how fun it is to watch 👌 🙃

[digital pond]

Most esports won't include new patches mid tournament either.

[forest raven]

1.8 will be applied after quarters

[digital pond]

Tobi wants blood.

Graviton Cuck'ed

[onyx hull]

mcfricking 2cp

[balmy wolf]

sigh

So how do the semifinal matchups work?

Does the no 1 seed of group A play the no 2 of group B?

[forest raven]

First seed of group A plays second seed of group B and vice versa I think

[digital pond]

Oh they're doing the classic strat. Get Esca on Widow to distract people.

[vestal mortar]

Aww yes

[balmy wolf]

Ah nice, that makes sense

Also Esca Widow lol

[forest raven]

I mean

Esca was hitting shots against RunAway

[digital pond]

Seems to work fine.

[balmy wolf]

It worked out wow

[digital pond]

KDU has been funneling A LOT of resources to shut down Esca.

[balmy wolf]

Why did Winston jump down though?

[digital pond]

On Defense they threw at least 2 people on him every time.

[forest raven]

It worked out against Misfits and RunAway as well

[cunning gate]

Tfw you blink and they already capped the first point

[digital pond]

So not surprised it's biting them back.

Lmao. Lucid has Whoru's number.

Tobi Hype.

[balmy wolf]

They should get it this push

Look at their ults

[vestal mortar]

I love Tobi so much

[digital pond]

KDU is spreading well

[balmy wolf]

nvm omg

[digital pond]

I'm actually hyped.

[vestal mortar]

same

[digital pond]

Esca McCree isn't pretty nice.

is*

[cunning gate]

Well that was interesting

[forest raven]

LUCID

[digital pond]

LOL I fucking

love

Lucid

[balmy wolf]

HOW?

[vestal mortar]

Lucid! Haha

[forest raven]

WHORU KEEPS GETTING DOMED

[cunning gate]

LUCID LOL

[digital pond]

He's been giving Whoru the dick all series long.

ALL SERIES LONG BABY.

[onyx hull]

sleep dart hitbox goddamn

[balmy wolf]

Did he dash into it from the side???

[digital pond]

Yeh lol

He got hit in like the last frame of his dash rofl

[forest raven]

This could very well tie

Again

🛌

[onyx hull]

2cp 👌

[digital pond]

Sounds about right. I don't mind a 4th game tho

[vestal mortar]

Same, I don't mind watching them play more

[cunning gate]

Same

[balmy wolf]

I hope for an upset

[cunning gate]

Actually rooting for Kongdoo right now :'D

[digital pond]

I mean it's technically an upset for me.

[cunning gate]

So tired of seeing 3-0

[digital pond]

KDU beat them last time.

[onyx hull]

i want to see bubbly smiling 😃

[digital pond]

Gg Draw

[balmy wolf]

OLD 2CP

[forest raven]

Old 2cp

topkek

[cunning gate]

Oh wow they actually did it

[balmy wolf]

Even though it's been fixed

and now this

[onyx hull]

2cp wins goddamn

[vestal mortar]

FeelsAmazingMan

[cunning gate]

[balmy wolf]

The viewers don't want to see it, the players don't want play it

like ??

[onyx hull]

but it's in the game guys

[vestal mortar]

It'll be updated for the semis, this is the APEX format

I don't mind watching 2CP

[digital pond]

I mean it's not my favorite thing but it's whatever.

I expected a Draw, was just waiting for the next game.

[balmy wolf]

I'd rather see the new and fairer version

[onyx hull]

it's tiring

[vestal mortar]

Well it's the price we pay for the tournament realm 😛

[forest raven]

AGAIN

OMG

[vestal mortar]

Haha

[forest raven]

LUCID HAS WHORU'S NUMBER

[onyx hull]

cucked

[digital pond]

Dude, Whoru is literally telegraphing his shit.

[balmy wolf]

When Ana can 1v1 boosted Genji LOL

[digital pond]

He's offering himself at this point.

NICEU!

[forest raven]

ESCA

[vestal mortar]

ESCA

[forest raven]

[vestal mortar]

My BOY

[balmy wolf]

McCree <3

[digital pond]

SLEEPING ON THE BOY

[onyx hull]

wow

[digital pond]

I fucking love his McCree when he gets going man.

MIRO BABY

[vestal mortar]

MIRO

[forest raven]

Bubbly throwing

[digital pond]

EVERYONE IS SHOWING UP

[vestal mortar]

[digital pond]

Whoru sleeping on the job.

Everyone else wakes up.

[forest raven]

rip Uncia

[vestal mortar]

AHHHHHHHHH

[digital pond]

Esca saving the series baby!

[balmy wolf]

gg

[onyx hull]

gg

[vestal mortar]

Esca! WOOO

[forest raven]

Esca gets 5 kills

"I mean it was really Zunba" -Monte

[digital pond]

Classic Monte.

[forest raven]

[balmy wolf]

Esca is cute

[digital pond]

Once he finds his target he sticks to it.

Same with league lol.

[forest raven]

APEX Season 2 Semi-finalists

Group A:
RunAway in first seed
Lunatic-Hai in second seed

Group B:
Meta Athena in first seed
LW Blue in second seed

[digital pond]

Which team is Buds in?

[forest raven]

Fnatic

[digital pond]

Gotcha, thanks i/

[vestal mortar]

Aww, I might have to watch the VODs of next Tuesday's matches

[forest raven]

rip

But it's LW Blue vs. Panthera

[vestal mortar]

I like watching live and chatting here FeelsBadMan

Rip LW Blue

[clever wagon]

Was it another EscA bullying by Monte?

I had to get on my way home after Kings Row first round

[digital pond]

Pretty much.

[vestal mortar]

Less bullying than last time but a few comments here or there 😛

[digital pond]

He has a pop off moment after using Deadeye off of Zunba's grav. But then he just solo'ed 3 people.

But all Monte remembered was the Grav.

[clever wagon]

OH BECAUSE THE SOLO 3K IS ALSO ZUNBA RIGHT

DEFINITELY

[digital pond]

Doa called him out lmao.

Was pretty funny.

[vestal mortar]

"Zunba did most of the damage!"

[digital pond]

Monte just finds targets and sticks to them like an Imprinting Werewolf in Twilight.

Even if he's wrong he'll stick to bullying that person.

[forest raven]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C55UW5gUYAA0NgQ.jpg

o7

[clever wagon]

Mone chases his target even more accurate than S76 visor

[digital pond]

Bubbly was sad. Our world is all Darkness.

[past oar]

everyone knows LW Blue is gonna take Apex S2

[vestal mortar]

Bubbly 😭

[clever wagon]

Yes I did a typo just realized and I'm not gonna bother fixing it

[forest raven]

Right now Panthera, LW Blue, Meta Athena, RunAway and Lunatic-Hai could all very easily take season 2

[clever wagon]

All KR tee hee

[digital pond]

Panthera is Evermore's KD right?

[clever wagon]

Yes

[digital pond]

Gotcha

[past oar]

nah

[vestal mortar]

It depends on who makes it to the semis and survives the new patch

[forest raven]

Yeah

[clever wagon]

Alright people

[past oar]

Saebyolbe is gonna rek everyone

ez win

[clever wagon]

Nanohana or Rascal? Place bets

[forest raven]

As it stands because we haven't seen any of the group B matches any of those teams could take it

[vestal mortar]

Indeed

[past oar]

none of the group a teams play tracer

[digital pond]

I kinda like that a few teams are capable.

[past oar]

at a high level

[forest raven]

Well, at least we know Meta Athena has a free pass to the winners' final

[digital pond]

Lmao

[vestal mortar]

[clever wagon]

Rogue is all French, is Misfits all Swedish now?

[forest raven]

Yep

[clever wagon]

Huh

[pseudo sail]

Who was that idiot that said today's match will be close. 😄

[clever wagon]

Not me

[vestal mortar]

Me neither

[forest raven]

@pseudo sail

[clever wagon]

I didnt really care about today until I saw LH is kinda back on their feet

[pseudo sail]

Well, they've looked good against everyone except RunAway. So wouldn't say it was unexpected. ^^

[clever wagon]

Well, like I said

Them pushing WhoRU has worked excellent until RunAway

[forest raven]

That's because RunAway ran their own dive with a better Genji and a better supporting dps in Stitch

[toxic yacht]

also, kaiser

[forest raven]

Yeah

[toxic yacht]

I think it's more kaiser than anything else

dive vs dive LH tended to win

[clever wagon]

They managed to exploit EscA's passiveness

[forest raven]

Miro's Rein could not compete

[toxic yacht]

the moment it came down to deathballs

kaiser outplayed miro every time

[clever wagon]

And also Kaiser managing to get the jump on Miro

[past oar]

I think they were in an exceptional night too, prob won't pull off that performance again, Runaway that is

[clever wagon]

There is a possibility for that

[past oar]

yes

but very unlikely

[forest raven]

idk why LH tried to deathball throughout Numbani

The tilt was real I guess

[clever wagon]

Downed spirits

[toxic yacht]

they went with a dive first iirc

[past oar]

yea, they tilted hard

[toxic yacht]

then they instantly swapped to a deathball

[clever wagon]

Yes but ssitched after like 1-2 attempts

*switched

the usual LH wouldve commited to dive esp with Runner running meme torn

Torb

[past oar]

I got all my chips on LW B this season. What are the odds of me being wrong?

[clever wagon]

No idea

LW Blue hasnt had a strong showing this season

Panthera is dominant but they had a walk in the park with theirgroup

[past oar]

they have the best carry

[forest raven]

I'm cautious about teams like LW Blue and Panthera

[clever wagon]

Could as well be close

[forest raven]

Panthera had Flash Lux, Fnatic and old RunAway in their group

[past oar]

we all know what lw b their best looks like

pretty beasty

[forest raven]

Well Tuesday's game will show us just how strong Panthera really is

[past oar]

at*

[clever wagon]

Wait

1 match today?

[forest raven]

Yeap

[past oar]

yes

[forest raven]

Group A is done

[clever wagon]

Fuck

[forest raven]

Next week Group B's matches start

[clever wagon]

I was hoping i can still have a match to watch while i have dinner

[vestal mortar]

Awww

[past oar]

how was the match btw? tuned in it was already over. just saw the 3-0

[forest raven]

It was a close 3-0 besides King's Row

[past oar]

was it a close 3-0 or kongdoo just got rekt?

[forest raven]

KotH was 2-1 100-99

2cp went to a tiebreaker

[past oar]

wow, that's sad

[forest raven]

Yeah

It's a reverse of season 1

[past oar]

idk why most teams struggle so hard vs LH

to pull off at least 1 map

[forest raven]

Besides their loss against RunAway, the worst LH has performed is 3-1 and that was against LW Blue

[past oar]

esca hasn't been playing solid this week

and they still win

[forest raven]

Esca was showing up in this match

[vestal mortar]

Leave Esca alone 😭

[past oar]

oh, was he?

[forest raven]

Yeap

[vestal mortar]

Yes!

[digital pond]

He played really well on Illios on Tracer.

[past oar]

that's good

[forest raven]

Did his job as Mei on KR

[past oar]

he's not a good tracer imho

[digital pond]

Frankly most of his deaths this time around was KDU focusing him more than anything.

[forest raven]

And he got a 5k in the tiebreaker

[digital pond]

A lot of the times he died he had 2-3 people on him v0v.

[toxic yacht]

yeah, his tracer has massively improved

I hope that he can complement their dives better

once he gets good with her

[forest raven]

Honestly Ryu was very quiet this series

Lucid performed a lot better than Ryu did

[vestal mortar]

Yeah they have a while now to practice for the semis

[past oar]

Saeb's tracer is insane

[digital pond]

I think part of it is because it looked like they allowed Zunba/Esca to play less of a babysitter style.

[forest raven]

Maybe

[past oar]

Esca will need to pick it up fast

[digital pond]

Zunba was going a bit more ballsy and getting nano'ed.

[forest raven]

Though Zunba still seemed rather passive

[digital pond]

I mean at this point he's used to playing that style while with the team.

So even if he got the "OK" it would take some getting used to.

[forest raven]

Yeah

[digital pond]

Plus KDU didn't seem to focus too much on Ryu unless Bird was blading.

[vestal mortar]

Indeed

[past oar]

no Western teams this season, guys

how sad is that?

:(

[forest raven]

[digital pond]

I feel some of the Western teams had a few issues going into APEX. And some weren't resolved. A bit like hero pool for nV.

And none of them expect the patch with d.Va changes.

And didn't prep for it.

[past oar]

indeed

[digital pond]

Cause even when D.Va was busted, KR teams still ran 2/2/2 Dive with d.Va.

[toxic yacht]

tbh western teams were at an inherent disadvantage

[forest raven]

C9's problems started being addressed too little too late

[toxic yacht]

more korean suited meta

[digital pond]

A bit more than triple/quad tanks.

[past oar]

mickie was hurt massively

[digital pond]

So they were already diving.

[toxic yacht]

korean suited tiebreaker

[forest raven]

Fnatic got in because of their name

[toxic yacht]

koreans being super good at 2cp and assault

[rapid oxide]

LULnatic

[forest raven]

Mainly because western teams don't practice 2cp nearly as much as Korean teams

[digital pond]

I'm more interested in seeing the Western teams from APEX facing the teams doing tournaments in the West currently.

To see what the level is in general.

[rapid oxide]

Not Really Good, Citizen 0-7,Lunatic Bye

Clown 9

[forest raven]

Choke9

[past oar]

@toxic yacht yea

[clever wagon]

@digital pond from what you said it does sound they're heading in a better direction

With Runaway it was apparent that it's a waste for Zunba and EscA to focus on babysitting

[past oar]

i think they will destroy the rest of the teams

experience is everything

[digital pond]

The Koreans have been using Dive for a long time even during triple tank being popular in the West so they have experience advantage.

[clever wagon]

Lunatic-Bye?

[forest raven]

I mean Meta Athena 3-0'd nV

[digital pond]

And some of them are just more proefficient at the heroes they play.

[forest raven]

Meta Athena isn't exactly an old team

[clever wagon]

3-0'd a team that had apparent difficulties with their own pool past 3-tank meta

But Meta does deserve the commendation

[forest raven]

nV also has a shit tonne of experience

[past oar]

indeed

NV is certainly at the top of the food chain

[digital pond]

I do wanna see if teams like Rogue and LGE are able to face nV/C9 correctly.

Cause it would be promising if they did.

[past oar]

not sure about c9 tho

[digital pond]

They took KDU for a ride.

[past oar]

pretty sub par

[digital pond]

In their last game.

Almost won iirc.

[forest raven]

C9, if their series against Uncia is a sign, is on the up and up

[toxic yacht]

c9 looks like they may finally live up to their potential

[digital pond]

They also got a hold of a good Coach.

[forest raven]

Though currently Mendo and Ryb are stuck in Sweden

[digital pond]

Well I mean they probably went home for a break.

Jack is very heavy on letting players go home and relax.

[forest raven]

Yeah true, but it means they're not practicing to their greatest extent

[digital pond]

He does the same with his League team.

[past oar]

how long has mendo been on c9 by now?

I think that counts too

[clever wagon]

Meanwhile my boys LG Evil making plays in the NA scene but too young for the international

Soon, soon

[forest raven]

29th October

Mendo, Ryb and Roolf joined

[digital pond]

My only worry for LGE is if OWL limit age is 18.

Cause that means Super can't play.

[clever wagon]

Would be sad

[digital pond]

Hopefully it's 17.

[past oar]

yea, so team has still lots to learn

[clever wagon]

16 y-o Reinhardt main, even if it's only the NA scene so far, that's no joke

[digital pond]

Theres a lot of players across nations under 18.

[past oar]

the less age, the better, man

lol

[clever wagon]

Hm

If LG gave them the color red

...

[forest raven]

Evil's a dumb name tbh

[clever wagon]

I mean, if you look at it from a certain way

They're the step sibling who was adopted because of.. uh

Well

Just saying... the 6W 0L streak

But idc anyway, if they weren't given the name Evil then I couldn't come up with this title

[forest raven]

kek

[clever wagon]

Anyway, back to days without upcoming matches until Tuesday

[clever wagon]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spmlpo

[vestal mortar]

Awww :C

[forest raven]

Everything I've seen from LGL and LG as a whole suggests the org and its players are all class acts

👏

[pine star]

Mineral is such a gentleman

[rapid oxide]

Just wondering at people like Donnaruma, a goalkeeper from Milan

Hes 16/17

But he's able to play in A League in Italy

I think something had to be signed

But im pretty sure under aged people are allowed to play on OWL

Obviously parents had to sign smth

[pine star]

Yup

The thing is

It's not that's illegal per se

But we don't know if the league will allow it

My bet is that they will

[forest raven]

@pine star I like how your profile pic is basically HulkGame

[pine star]

@forest raven old cheese

[forest raven]

🧀

[pine star]

👴🧀

[balmy wolf]

anyone hear of the KangerooJacks

[forest raven]

Nope

[pine star]

What do you eat that with?

[toxic yacht]

Pls

#esports-discussion

If you want us to sub to your pro tviq hanzo plays

#video-content

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/LDLC_kensi/status/840213846098878464

Rip LDLC

[forest raven]

⚰

[balmy wolf]

Yesterday I saw that Mete left

and then like an hour later Meza left

and now Kensi

fucking lol

[clever wagon]

Whut

[balmy wolf]

LDLC lost half their roster

[clever wagon]

Which team

[rapid oxide]

🕯 🇪🇺 🕯

[clever wagon]

An EU team?

[balmy wolf]

Yes

[toxic yacht]

Rip ldlc

Which reminds me, dreamhack

Was fucking awesome

Pls, I want something like that again

[rapid oxide]

Aaaaand

https://twitter.com/BB_Kryw/status/840219665481764865

[balmy wolf]

Yeah not surprised by that one

They're all probably free agents now

[rapid oxide]

Yup

2easy fault as always

Liquidpedia ppl discord

[balmy wolf]

2Easy, Kyb, Kryw, Winghaven

All free yet again

[rapid oxide]

Said that hes trialing for TSm

[balmy wolf]

ono

[rapid oxide]

[2:58 AM] TwoEasy: it's TSM
[2:58 AM] TwoEasy: but i think they are trying out alot of ppl
[2:58 AM] TwoEasy: so

Inb4 2easy said god damn and get kicked while tsm is formed

[balmy wolf]

Lel

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/JKaplan/status/840141980189380609

FeelsBadMan

[balmy wolf]

[rapid oxide]

😭

[pine star]

Look at ZP response

[rapid oxide]

I did

Not sure what he meant

Dat trevor reply doe

Anyone know the peak/avg view on afreeca tv for apex?

[mint palm]

Anyone know if overwatch league will be PC only or if console players will have teams as well

[toxic yacht]

atm there is nothing pointing towards blizzard ever doing anything with consoles

[balmy wolf]

PC only is my guess

I've never seen any big esports game have anything for consoles

unless its an exclusive

[mint palm]

Damn I was hoping to try out for the Boston team

I'm a DJ so all my money goes into my Mac and that equipment so I'm not affording a gaming PC. Lol

[pine star]

@toxic yacht CoD titles are not console exclusives, yet most big tournaments are on console

[toxic yacht]

blizzard has always been a pc exclusive company though

[clever wagon]

That's CoD though

And what he said

[toxic yacht]

ow being on consoles is the exception

[mint palm]

True. I'm betting if PC overwatch league is successful they'll open up to console

[toxic yacht]

and they are focusing significantly more on pc, as expected from blizz tbh

also, CoD is much bigger on console

[clever wagon]

There's not as many competitive FPS on console

On PC there are tons

Well, not tons

[pine star]

True dat

[clever wagon]

But there's already CSGO, for one

A titan in comparison

[mint palm]

OW is one of XB1's most successful games ever, I doubt they'll ignore that

[clever wagon]

Unless Activision can make anything that's as hype as OW as of late they should not even hope to compete

Lol

[mint palm]

Or else MlG or GameBattles will pick OW console up

*MLG

[pine star]

I reckon they still have to licence it

[clever wagon]

Well, MLG already ran OW for PC

Urgh

Get that out of here

[toxic yacht]

@quartz wren pls

[mint palm]

A buddy of mine made a good chunk getting sponsored by turtle beach for halo 3 mlg back in the dY

[quartz wren]

huh?

[mint palm]

Day

[toxic yacht]

some dude posted music and is like "Real music yo"

or some shit

lol

[clever wagon]

That thing up there that shouldn't belong here

[balmy wolf]

"or some shit"

[clever wagon]

Thank you

[balmy wolf]

you could still see it

[toxic yacht]

thank you

[hardy garden]

i feel oppressed

[toxic yacht]

anyway, it's kinda funny that blizzard and activision are the same company

and that they own MLG

[clever wagon]

Very funny Bossman. Not.

[toxic yacht]

but Blizz seems to give zero shits about consoles why Activision caters to them

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pine star]

They give a shit about consoles

Just not for esports

[mint palm]

I just wanna play competitively outside of matchmaking on console .-.

[toxic yacht]

:/

[pine star]

There are small tourneys here and there

[toxic yacht]

maybe some people will start some third party shit

[pine star]

But nothing big really

[toxic yacht]

I doubt that blizz would mind anything like that

[forest raven]

There's the Overguard

[toxic yacht]

btw draw, gankyou

uhh

whorus's whole hog

that was his first

[clever wagon]

Lol

[forest raven]

Oh lord what

[toxic yacht]

he never got a whole hog on that defense

[mint palm]

I like overwatch league's geo-based teams. Like Boston vs LA and such, consoles need something like that

[clever wagon]

Which one

[forest raven]

WHAT

[mint palm]

You never go full hog

[clever wagon]

I stopped watching after Kings Row 1st round

[pine star]

I haven't seen it FeelsBadMan

[clever wagon]

Well I mean

[toxic yacht]

kings row defense

[clever wagon]

He's a one trick carry Genji

[forest raven]

Look up The Overguard on reddit @mint palm

[mint palm]

Fine I will jeez

No need to yell at me

[toxic yacht]

he died at 91%

[clever wagon]

I love LH for their Dive Mastery but WhoRU just isn't Jake or Ube who rotate Genji-Hog :/

[pine star]

Or Gods (???

[toxic yacht]

whoru is kind of a genji one trick who plays a decent pharah

amazing genji though

[balmy wolf]

Gods

[forest raven]

Well he can play Pharah at least

[balmy wolf]

Genji

[clever wagon]

Gods what

[pine star]

[toxic yacht]

gods outgenjid "Korea's and the world's best genji", ArHaN

[balmy wolf]

kek

[clever wagon]

He ran Genji like the amount of time WhoRU ran Hog in this tourney, to put it simply

lol

[balmy wolf]

Thats not much of an achievement

[clever wagon]

Sssh Sojum

You shouldn't say that

[forest raven]

Holy fuck I need to go to bed

[balmy wolf]

Maybe he does play a good Genji, I dont know

[pine star]

Arhan is on the AKM's Pharah and Esca's Widow meme club now

[clever wagon]

It's like his 'Nam days

[toxic yacht]

Also, semi finals aren't getting the bastion patch

lmao

[balmy wolf]

Sure4 was always the one to run Genji on C9

[toxic yacht]

fucking rip arhan

[clever wagon]

@pine star I thought he's been there longer lol

[balmy wolf]

And now with Mendo aswell I dont expect Gods to run Genji

[toxic yacht]

I still don't understand the decision to put gods on genji and mendo on hitscan

[clever wagon]

Mendo's probably gonna be the one rotating off-tank/projectile DPS/Genji

[toxic yacht]

like, gods was starting to learn zarya

when he left nrg

[pine star]

Tbf he was above average on Genji

[toxic yacht]

dunno what became of that

he was much better on genji than I'd have expected

but his dragonblades were either NA

[clever wagon]

But he ran that on what

[toxic yacht]

or decent at best

even with nano

[clever wagon]

Not Uncia/AF Blue match wasn't it?

[toxic yacht]

He ran genji in every match

[pine star]

Yup

[clever wagon]

Welp

Didn't notice

[toxic yacht]

but like, mendo and surefour

are insane on genji

[balmy wolf]

That makes no sense

[forest raven]

It seems like surefour is now a fully dedicated dps, Mendo is the primary off tank, and gods is the main flex

[balmy wolf]

Why put the Gods on Genji

[clever wagon]

To be fair they did that before B1shop was around lol

[balmy wolf]

Mendo and Sure4 are leagues ahead of him on Genji

[clever wagon]

They had nobody to keep them in line

[pine star]

Before about to shuffle shit up

[balmy wolf]

Doesnt matter

They're not retarded

[pine star]

Adam Genji hype

[balmy wolf]

They should be able to see that

[toxic yacht]

and gods was a really good 76 back before the spread nerf

[clever wagon]

Well, not saying they're retarded

[toxic yacht]

gods is super good on hitscan in general

[clever wagon]

Just some strat decision

[toxic yacht]

they most likely did this because it worked better in scrims

[clever wagon]

That needs to be looked into stat

[toxic yacht]

but I have no idea what kind of retard scrims they played

were gods on genji was more effective than gods on hitscan

[clever wagon]

Well anyway

What's past is past

[toxic yacht]

anyway, it mostly worked

[clever wagon]

They got B1shop now

We should be seeing some even better stuff

[opaque owl]

Gods is gone?

[balmy wolf]

Cant wait to find out this months Melee teams

[clever wagon]

What lul @opaque owl

Nobody said that

[toxic yacht]

I want to see them run the misfits comp

with gods on widow

[opaque owl]

You said it was all in the past

I just assumed

[toxic yacht]

and surefour + mendo with genji/tracer

[opaque owl]

:v

[clever wagon]

I meant those questionable decision making they did are in the past

Because they have Bishop now

[opaque owl]

Oh right their coach

[clever wagon]

The ex-Panthera

[balmy wolf]

tbh I just want to see Rogue's Dive vs LH's Dive

[toxic yacht]

LH would probably crush them

[clever wagon]

But they got SoOn

[toxic yacht]

tbh LH would just run a normal reinhard comp

and beat them

[balmy wolf]

Yeah but I mean their Dives vs eachother

Not just a match between the two

[toxic yacht]

they'd beat them in a dive too

[clever wagon]

I mean, I don't think Rogue have perfected theirs

[toxic yacht]

probably even better than with a death ball

[clever wagon]

OMM is the first tournament they ran after they came back

[toxic yacht]

especially since, this is also something that veine noted

rogue

had no coordination

they mostly outskilled their oponents

[balmy wolf]

They will probably be better the next time we see them

[toxic yacht]

obviously it was coordinated outskilling, but they heavily relied on individual skill

[balmy wolf]

Now that they have figured out roles

Knoxxx needs to learn Rein asap

[clever wagon]

Has Jake been running as many heroes as he did in OMM and Carbon before?

[toxic yacht]

dunno, AMM was the first time I watched hammer's

but yeaah, knoxxx needs to figure out rein

fast

[clever wagon]

Even back in January he mostly only rotated Hog-S76 didn't he?

[toxic yacht]

atm they are very one dimensional

good, but a one trick who literally only run one comp with unkoe on zen/ana

[balmy wolf]

I think they would be relatively okay if KnoxXx learns Rein

[toxic yacht]

I hope that Nico's zarya also steps up, tbh

if yes, then they can run 2/2/2

[balmy wolf]

I still think it would be better to have Winz on tank though

[toxic yacht]

I'd love winz on zarya again

[balmy wolf]

He plays an alright lucio but man his Zarya is so much fucking better

[pine star]

I reckon Hammers didn't prepare well enough for Rogue's dive

[toxic yacht]

he was like, the most clutch zarya I've ever seen

always getting those 20hp kills

[pine star]

And still have them a run for their money

[toxic yacht]

like, during the first rogue vs reu game at ow open

on hanamura

he won a 1v2 on zarya

[balmy wolf]

I think if NiCO learns Zarya and Road, then Knoxxx learns Rein

[pine star]

Imagine if they setup a specific anti-Rogue strat

[toxic yacht]

with 20 hp

[balmy wolf]

They should be good

Because aKm has them covered on Hitscan

[toxic yacht]

definitely, but they'll be limited in the sense of that both their dps are hitscan gods

[balmy wolf]

And letting SoOn be a one trick seems fine to me

It's a problem I've stated before

[toxic yacht]

it's the first problem I noticed with new rogue

[balmy wolf]

That SoOn can play McCree and 76 and aKm can play Tracer

[toxic yacht]

they tried to fix it with nico

[balmy wolf]

But aKm plays McCree and 76 better than SoOn

[toxic yacht]

but if nico is on dps, they lack an off rank

[balmy wolf]

and SoOn plays a better Tracer than aKm

[toxic yacht]

aKm plays all hitscan apart from tracer better, methinks

[balmy wolf]

Yeah exactly

[toxic yacht]

at least they had a superflex dps back with nevix

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

but now, err

they'll never run a standard 2/2/2 with one hitscan and one projectile

[balmy wolf]

I cant really say how to fix their problems

[clever wagon]

There's this pattern where it's often the Genji who also runs off-tank

Peculiar

[toxic yacht]

also, genji players who run reaper

[balmy wolf]

Not having a good Lucio player that only plays Lucio is hurting them the most I think

I still feel like switching Winz and knoxxx would be the best idea

[toxic yacht]

if they had gotten superplouk instead of skipjack and put skipjack on lg they wouldn't have this problem in the first place

tbh

but then they'd be hitscan limited

this is so retarded, lol

but they must have thought of this issue when they got nico

[balmy wolf]

I feel like they are just going to have to perfect their Dive

[toxic yacht]

yup, they're kind of fucked otherwise

[balmy wolf]

Because there isnt really other options

[toxic yacht]

SoOn actually plays a decent genji

but that's it

decent

[balmy wolf]

They just have roles split up so much

[toxic yacht]

aKm plays a subpar pharah who's decent at best

their hero pools are all in the wrong places

theoretically they can play most important heroes apart from rein, but

uhh

this is so retarded

[balmy wolf]

They have KnoxXx who seems to only know Winston

Then Winz who plays a great zarya but is on Lucio

Then NiCO who apparently plays Zarya

But probably worse than Winz

Then you have aKm and SoOn with the splintered Hitscan DPS role

[clever wagon]

So Rogue as they are now is kind of in an even worse position than LH or NV

[balmy wolf]

Basically

[clever wagon]

Save for their mechanical skills

[balmy wolf]

Envy is just lacking heroes

While Rogue isnt really lacking heroes

[toxic yacht]

pretty much. ROgue is in a fucking wierd spot right now

not lacking

[balmy wolf]

more just their hero pools are all over the fucking place

[toxic yacht]

but all over the place

in the wrong places

[balmy wolf]

Im interested to see what they will bring out in their next event

[clever wagon]

Kind of like C9

[balmy wolf]

Maybe in the Melee again

[toxic yacht]

and again, misfits got the good side of the deal

since they can literally run everything

[balmy wolf]

tbh

whoever got TviQ in the 3 way trade

Got the good side

[toxic yacht]

prety much, lol

having tviq

solves ALL of your dps issues

[clever wagon]

Isn't it also Rogue's side who wanted an all-French roster first?

[balmy wolf]

Also no 2b not really like C9

Because C9 has Surefour and Mendo who both excel at Hitscan and Projectile heroes

[toxic yacht]

I think it was initiated by tviq

[balmy wolf]

They're both interchangable

[toxic yacht]

after playing on team sweden during the world cup

[clever wagon]

So worse? @balmy wolf

[balmy wolf]

Yes

Definitely worse

[clever wagon]

Huh

[toxic yacht]

and having an all swedish atmosphere

c9 is in a pretty good spot if gods learns zarya, tbh

[balmy wolf]

Because Mendo and Surefour both play the same heroes at near the same level

[toxic yacht]

surefour and mendo are basically tviq

[balmy wolf]

So they can switch between them all with ease

[clever wagon]

TviQ split into 2

Lol

[balmy wolf]

And they have a main tank

[clever wagon]

And they have Gods too now

[balmy wolf]

Yep

[forest raven]

Ryb's legitimately amazing

[toxic yacht]

so they can run triple dps + triple tank + 2-2-2

[balmy wolf]

So basically if Gods learns Zarya they're set

Because he already plays a good Road

[clever wagon]

Talent/pool wise C9's got one of the biggest

[toxic yacht]

talent wise, yeah

c9 and misfits

have really fucking much potential

[forest raven]

I need more Roolf Zen in my life

[toxic yacht]

roolf zen

[clever wagon]

Evil just needs the dive comp and they're set

[balmy wolf]

Roolf is basically a toned down Unkoe

Or maybe NA Unkoe is the better title

[clever wagon]

Since Jake, Train & Voll combined already have equally huge pool themselves

[toxic yacht]

this actually makes me salty

jake and train can both play hitscan

but refuse to swap against mangachu's pharah

wrryyyyy

[forest raven]

Wasn't Adam one of the best mercies in the world way back when?

[toxic yacht]

He's the best I've seen

he still plays mercy sometimes

[clever wagon]

He got to the top ranks with Lucio/Mercy at one point didn't he

[toxic yacht]

his positioning and gamesense on mercy are 👌

he probably did

btw, jake got to top 500 on a shitty laptop with a mousepad while playing winston iirc

[clever wagon]

I remember when that name Adam was at #1 for some time

[toxic yacht]

or something

[clever wagon]

Way before Evermore did it

[pine star]

Is Adam the captain?

[clever wagon]

I didn't know who he was back then, I think it was indeed him

[pine star]

And shotcaller and so?

[toxic yacht]

yee, adam is the captain

and shotcaller, probably

grego was calling shots before iirc or something

[balmy wolf]

Cant wait for Reaver, Grego and Talespin to make a team

[toxic yacht]

reaver

[forest raven]

LETS GO CHAMP

[balmy wolf]

That was the best thing to come out of Reaver

Everything else he does is a massive dissapointment

[toxic yacht]

he also gave me some high quality comedy

and a hekin good widowmaker

[forest raven]

I'd say NRG Ajax is the best thing to come out of Reaver

[toxic yacht]

lmao, yeah

I forgot

[balmy wolf]

Idk man TSM could have been a strong team

[toxic yacht]

that's reaver's fault

[pine star]

NRG Ajax? He's just a friend

Not really NRG

Wink wink

[toxic yacht]

reaver being so bad at ow that he almost destroys someones career

[balmy wolf]

I wonder if b1am and Connorj are still with TSM

[forest raven]

Sojum

[balmy wolf]

Apparently they're trialing all kinds of people

[forest raven]

I'm using that quote

[balmy wolf]

According to 2Easy

[toxic yacht]

they're entire roster got split up and they aren't with they're friends anymore :/

[balmy wolf]

Who is also trialing

[toxic yacht]

the god was a typo

not a gods reference

anyway, I kinda love NRG ajax

sorry, "friend of NRG" ajax

[pine star]

He's so hyped all the time

[toxic yacht]

having someone as hyped and retarded as him really complements the team

[pine star]

Also his boostio is top tier lul

[toxic yacht]

lmao

"I'M KILLING THEM ALL"

[pine star]

"Let's fucking go Ajax"

[balmy wolf]

This new NRG roster is gonna be sick

[toxic yacht]

"ORISA HAS 4 LEGS"

[pine star]

@toxic yacht LMFAO I laughed so fucking hard on that one

[toxic yacht]

he's so fucking great

[forest raven]

NRG is the populist party

[toxic yacht]

that part was so hilarious

[pine star]

I confuse IDDQD and Dummy voices

[toxic yacht]

also, the boostio bit was 👌

oh, so I'm not the only one

basically, Andre has an accent

[pine star]

RIGHT?!

[toxic yacht]

that's literally how I differentiate them

[vestal mortar]

I never got them confused

😮

[pine star]

As someone not from the US, I don't really detect when someone has an accent

Unless it's like British or Aussie or Indian or something

[toxic yacht]

iddqd has a swedish accent, and I kinda know how swedish accents sound thanks to this server and pro ow

so that helps

also, numlocked and dummy

are the best

[vestal mortar]

As someone not from the US maybe I am just good at recognising voices

[toxic yacht]

especially how numlocked always fucking feeds

[forest raven]

I just love how well rounded the new NRG line up is

[balmy wolf]

Dummy sounds completely different from iddqd

[vestal mortar]

Awww Seb doesn't always feed

He just likes his bounce house

[toxic yacht]

pfff, Dummy is forced to pay all attention and baby seb because he constantly feeds :p

[pine star]

Dummy is toxic tho

[toxic yacht]

ajax too

report ajax for toxicity

[pine star]

And IDDQD

Omg

[balmy wolf]

Theyre all toxic

[vestal mortar]

Ye, can confirm Dummy called me a freak once

[pine star]

NRG confirmed most toxic team in OW

[balmy wolf]

or

[forest raven]

You have a hitscan god, projectile god, off tank god who make up the threats of the team, and an amazing Lucio and igl, amazing main tank and an amazing ana/zen

[toxic yacht]

@balmy wolf btw, harb literally said something like "I don't know who will run Orisa on NR... our friends"

[pine star]

Amazing is putting it lightly

[balmy wolf]

I wouldnt call Numlocked an amazing main tank

[pine star]

Dummy is up there with the best

[toxic yacht]

don't forget that harb can also flex unto tracer

if iddqd is too busy being 76

[balmy wolf]

@toxic yacht The roster is already set

[toxic yacht]

or widow

[forest raven]

And idd can flex into hog

[toxic yacht]

or cree

[balmy wolf]

Dummy said they will play in the Tourney at the end of march regardless of the roster being announced or not

[pine star]

Tracer + Genji + Widow NRG dive

[toxic yacht]

seagull can also go zarya when necessary

[vestal mortar]

Or Seagull can hog or 76

[toxic yacht]

yeah, I saw the comment polo

[balmy wolf]

Seagull and Iddqd on the same team

[pine star]

Seagull can fucking everything

[balmy wolf]

Seagull on 76

[opaque owl]

Yeah that seems strange

[toxic yacht]

if they need cree for some reason

dunno

[opaque owl]

He said in a stream he's not the team 76

[balmy wolf]

Of course he isnt kek

[vestal mortar]

Who knows where the meta will go in the future 😛

[toxic yacht]

but the thing is, seagull plays a pretty good 76, so if they ever really need to do that, they can do it

[forest raven]

Saw in dummys newest vid that idd was hog, seagull was Hanzo and Harb was zarya

[toxic yacht]

but seagull already said that he'll be running proj dps

[balmy wolf]

Yeah so unless Harb has picked up Hitscan, Iddqd is their hitscan

[toxic yacht]

harb can tracer

but apart from that, he's their off tank

and I don't see zarya ever becoming useless tbh

[pine star]

Tracer doesn't count really

[vestal mortar]

I am just saying that they have the potential to outlast meta changes and have a lot of room to flex when needed.

[pine star]

Maybe some day they need double hitscan

[forest raven]

Seagull can pick up hitscan ez

[toxic yacht]

seagull actually played cree back in the double cree days

he already mentioned that he will learn hitscan if necessary

I mean, he's already good at hitscan

[vestal mortar]

He already plays a good 76 😛

[toxic yacht]

just not iddqd, surefour, taimou or akm level good

[balmy wolf]

The gull sux at hitscan

[forest raven]

And none of them besides maybe sure can play projectile like seagull does

[toxic yacht]

so he'll pick up hitscan if he needs to

iddqd
projectile

[vestal mortar]

[pine star]

Lul

He plays Mei tho

He can land dem headshots

[toxic yacht]

oh yeah, he plays a super good mei

iirc he can also play hanjo

[pine star]

Yeah

I saw that video of he on his smurf on bronze playing Hanzo

Absolutely disgusting, eww.

[toxic yacht]

but seagull plays hanzo, and i really doubt that they'll run hanzo with seagull on genji or something

LOL, project lol was the best shit ever

[pine star]

Unlikely

[toxic yacht]

dick move, but fucking hilarious

[pine star]

But the thing is

They still can do it

That's what's so good about this roster

[toxic yacht]

reminds me of when seagull and gods ran double hanzo

[pine star]

They can run almost every crazy comp you can imagine

[vestal mortar]

Double Hanzo double Zarya 👌

[toxic yacht]

lol, I sometimes miss the days of hero stacking

it was cancer

[pine star]

I fucking don't lol

[toxic yacht]

but a few really interesting comps came up

koth also never ended

because of 6 tracer overtime stalls

[pine star]

D I S G U S T I N G

[toxic yacht]

imagine you could hero stack ana

🤔

would she be stacked, or is lucio too valuable?

[pine star]

Nano Ana

[toxic yacht]

lmao

nano ana

better than every dps

[vestal mortar]

I remember Seagull, Pharah on Ilios Well destroying a 5 tracer Lucio stall

[toxic yacht]

was it vs nubris?

back when fnatic was nubris and NRG was LG?

[vestal mortar]

And then he tweeted about "this is why I hate Tracer"

[toxic yacht]

that was the first pro overwatch game I ever watched, lol

[vestal mortar]

It was just before the hero limit was put in so they must have been LG at the time

[toxic yacht]

yup, defnitetely that match

I rewatched it recently because of ESL reruns

such cancer

[vestal mortar]

[pine star]

ESL reruns LUL

[toxic yacht]

iddqd also had a super good bastion that match on hanamura

[pine star]

They will be rerunning World Cup qualifiers on season 5 of OWL

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[vestal mortar]

I remember one time FNATIC vs NRG on Hanamura where IDDQD kept shutting down Seagull and I thought to myself "wouldn't it be great it they were on the same team"

FeelsAmazingMan

[toxic yacht]

OW Open?

when he shut down nanoblade

that was so beatiful

[vestal mortar]

Yes!

I am bad at remembering the specific tournaments 😛

[toxic yacht]

NRG actually ran a triple dps dive to cap point A because they were almost full held

gods on widow

[forest raven]

Good thing seagull has that Shaq money

[toxic yacht]

seagull on genji

enigma on tracer

3 dps dive during beyblade 🤔

but it just so happened to be 3 comfort picks

not a legit strat

[balmy wolf]

Enigma

[toxic yacht]

Seagull actually said in his AMA that they should have kept enigma

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

just put enigma on hitscan and get a dedicated triple tank

I mean, they're better of with iddqd

but I'll miss him :/

[balmy wolf]

If they kept Engima they wouldnt have Harb

[vestal mortar]

😭

[balmy wolf]

Because Engima was primarily Off tank

He just played a God tracer

For those triple dps comps

[toxic yacht]

his tracer was

that game vs method

where seagull didn't die once on a two lijiang stages

and enigma was just tearing apart their backline on tracer

[balmy wolf]

Seagull - Genji/Pharah
Engima - Tracer
Gods - McCree
Milo - Winston
Pookz - Lucio
Indust - Mercy

I'll miss LG

[toxic yacht]

btw, according to whytro, the indust here was the real deal

[balmy wolf]

Or well

I miss them

[toxic yacht]

he cross checked on OW

[balmy wolf]

On what

The game?

[toxic yacht]

however the fuck manbun's discord is called

THE OW

The O W

The O.W

whatever

[balmy wolf]

The O.W.