esports-discussion

[gritty crow]

Micke what was that at the end there

[silk linden]

ok I found the stream

so, the best team in the world is kill?

[forest raven]

No longer best team kek

[silk linden]

I figured

[balmy wolf]

Runaway is the best now

[forest raven]

They were best team in the D.va meta

RunAway hasn't played Meta Athena yet

Or Panthera with the new roster

[silk linden]

Korea is already dominating the esport, aren't they? it was fun while it lasted

[forest raven]

I wouldn't say that

[toxic yacht]

currently the top western teams don't exist, apart from nV

[forest raven]

APEX is uh

Biased

More western teams are getting support staff

[toxic yacht]

then there is also the fact that the way the map system works inherently favours koreans

[forest raven]

Sister teams are now a thing in the west

[toxic yacht]

koreans are better at control + 2cp

2cp + koth are ALWAYS in the first 3 maps

which makes 3-0s for koreans significantly more likely already

tie breakers are also one round of koth

[balmy wolf]

KotH is also bo3

[pine star]

Let's not forget that the meta favours Koreans

[silk linden]

why

[forest raven]

Also there are four western teams and 12 KR teams

[pine star]

which is why Envy won S1

[forest raven]

And two of those western teams were C9 and Fnatic

[silk linden]

"the meta favors koreans" it's the same game, what, do Koreans have a different approach to OW?

[balmy wolf]

Would other teams have really done better?

Maybe Rogue

[forest raven]

Rogue yeah

But they weren't a full roster when the invites went out

[pine star]

@silk linden yeah they do?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah, but still at this point

[forest raven]

If western teams come back for season 4 I'd expect Misfits and Rogue for EU and LG Evil and perhaps C9 for NA

[pine star]

IMT?

[forest raven]

Eh

If they improve maybe

[balmy wolf]

So nV doesn't exist anymore?

[pine star]

Yeah

[forest raven]

But LG Evil has 3-1'd and 3-0'd them

[pine star]

Grim tilts almost as much as Taimou lol

[forest raven]

I'd expect nV to come back actually @balmy wolf

Depends on how they perform against the other NA teams when they go back

[pine star]

I can't wait for an NA tourney with all the returning teams

[balmy wolf]

nV still made top 8 and they only lost against top 5 teams in the world so

[forest raven]

An OMM with nV, C9, NRG, Rogue, Selfless, LG Evil and idk IMT I guess

Though Selfless isn't the most proven team yet

[balmy wolf]

I dunno why people are writing them off in favor of teams that have never played LAN before or even internationally

[forest raven]

I expect nV to perform really well like they did last year when they go back to NA

But with Rogue in their old stomping grounds

[pine star]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

Don't forget about the return of EU :3

[pine star]

I just want to see all the teams wrestle each other to death

And see who comes out on top after all this time

[toxic yacht]

Prepare for Jeff?

[forest raven]

Misfits will be NA in the near future

But yeah

nV won't have another 57-0

[toxic yacht]

Just give it half a year

misfits will likely be the nr 1 team in the world

by the end of 2017

[balmy wolf]

lol

[toxic yacht]

or a top 3 team

[forest raven]

Does Misfits have a coach?

[toxic yacht]

remember that I said this

[forest raven]

Or any support staff?

[toxic yacht]

they must have

brb checking

[clever wagon]

God I so can't wait for NieR PC I started looking up playthroughs just to see what it's like

[pine star]

Who needs support staff when you got LOTTOFORCE

[clever wagon]

Fucking bad habit

[balmy wolf]

What kind of game even is it?

[toxic yacht]

windz is their coach

sorry, manager

[forest raven]

So no coach

[pine star]

@clever wagon I already have it

[toxic yacht]

oh, he is their coach

[clever wagon]

Uh... basically Yoko Taro game with Bayonetta action, RPG elements + pseudo-open world

[forest raven]

Make up your damn mind, sojum

[toxic yacht]

he is

end of story

[clever wagon]

@pine star grats, I'm just a PC pleb who never had any console after PS2

Not even handheld

[balmy wolf]

Comparable to Xenoblade?

[pine star]

@clever wagon I was actually planning to have it for pc, but just couldn't wait lul

[clever wagon]

Xenoblade... idk

From what I've seen Xenoblade is closer to PSO which is way simpler in gameplay and mechanics, but I only have a bit less than 2 years of PSO2 myself

It's Platinum Games' trademark combat finesse

[balmy wolf]

I see

I've never played one of their games but I guess that means big and spectacular?

[pine star]

inb4 we all get kicked because derail

[clever wagon]

Then again I don't know how my i5-6400 + GTX 1060 will fare against this game, as the recommended specs say GTX 980 and i5/i7-4600s

Would be a bit of a downer to play DMC/Platinum Games' combat in less than 60fps...

Sorry mod

Need a bit of a distraction from today

@balmy wolf big and spectacular... dunno for you but I can say one thing for sure: Platinum Games' combat finesse has always been held in high regard ever since Hideki Kamiya (founder) made the first Devil May Cry

And that has remained true in every one of their popular games: DMC franchise (fuck the reboot), Bayonetta, and now NieR:Automata

Flashy combat that can appeal to the more casual player while also enabling in-depth moves and hidden mechanics to the more hardcore player

[toxic yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQEOzsW2CNc&index=1&list=FLbtSFVe1VQzEwjAB6rAYieg

Ube fragclip

music is lit

@flat sparrow you're gonna love this

[clever wagon]

That's the one that was posted to r/cow isn't it

[toxic yacht]

yee, posted by hidan

[clever wagon]

Ube, Jake are some of the people I look up to

DPS/off-tank flexes

[toxic yacht]

I look up to, well, you can see my nickname

and seagull of course

[gentle shuttle]

too bad Anox aren't around for the next patch :C

[pine star]

My go to players to watch are Harbleu and Miro

[frank frigate]

did someone @ me, it isn't showing up

[kind lake]

prolly @'ed you and deleted the message

[frank frigate]

rip

anyway

[toxic yacht]

rip ping :/

[vestal mortar]

rip

[frank frigate]

I just posted the Meta Report for the Strivewire Monthly Melee -- it was an EU only tournament that had a fairly skewed map pool (80% were either koth or hybrid), still interesting to see what the EU guys are up to these days. There was not a consensus on what was stronger -- Dive or Quad tank. I expect Dive to be the dominant composition once the Zen / Winston buffs and Ana nerf goes live though:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5y1427/overwatch_hero_meta_report_omnic_crisis_averted/

I'm also trying to make my Tier infographic better, there's an example and a strawpoll to vote on so please let me know what you think in the comments ❤ ❤

[solid spear]

Yeah that was a good read

[toxic yacht]

will be a good read on my way home

papa bless captain planet

[vestal mortar]

ooh yes! Thank you, I'll give it a read on my next coffee break!

[toxic yacht]

https://d1mt9jmphk9kik.cloudfront.net/luminosity/image1488841357.png

this is the first time I've seen Hammers "LG EVIL"

I still can't get over the cheese, lmao

[vestal mortar]

Evil

[clever wagon]

Actually I think they got that picture wrong

https://twitter.com/Avast_o/status/838916152239738881

[vestal mortar]

lmao

[toxic yacht]

LOL

[vestal mortar]

If I cheer for LG Evil, does that make me evil? 🤔

[clever wagon]

Not even Korea has a fucking 16 y-o Reinhardt

[jovial eagle]

i was right

all white people look alike

[clever wagon]

I mean, the chant has always been "Evil has triumphed" ever since @vestal mortar

[opaque owl]

watching the uncia vs envy match now

this first map hurts

[solid spear]

https://twitter.com/twoeasyow/status/839149949463969792

rip

[gentle shuttle]

jeez

[rapid oxide]

LMAO

[toxic yacht]

:(

[rapid oxide]

I need the pic polo posted time ago hahah

[reef knoll]

Is it ok to post OW tournament announcements in this channel?

[solid spear]

I would see no reason why not

[opaque owl]

i mean

the #tournaments channel is right bellow

[rapid oxide]

2easy can't carry so he needs a team that carrys him LUL

[pine star]

lol

Look at one of the replies on his tweet

[reef knoll]

Rivalcade is running both EU and NA Overwatch tournaments today. EU starts at 9pm CET, and NA starts at 9pm EST. We will also be streaming the tournaments on our Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/livethebattle. We'd love to see you both in the events, and on our channel! https://arena.razerzone.com/tournaments/details/4626/overwatch-weekly-na-3-by-rivalcade/ https://arena.razerzone.com/tournaments/details/4627/overwatch-weekly-eu-3-by-rivalcade/

^^^ Those are weekly events by the way... every Tuesday!

[thin elk]

@reef knoll We literally just told you there was a channel for that

[gentle shuttle]

lol

[toxic yacht]

Lmao

[clever wagon]

Bench Boys is not bird noises obviously

Lul

[sick musk]

Lol

[vestal mortar]

Rip Bench Boys, I hardly knew ye

[digital pond]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6VFee1WcAgfaV_.jpg

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/JoshNissan/status/839173273514557441

Savage

As someone reply already

Its pretty weak excuses

He can still play with them wile seeking other opportunities like everyone do

[digital pond]

Pretty much.

It also makes him look bad to some teams as he's being seemingly fickle.

[balmy wolf]

Dang dude

Runaway looking good

[digital pond]

Did they end up winning?

I fell asleep

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

3-2 vs LH

3-1 vs Uncia

[digital pond]

Damn, nice

[spring lintel]

Tf?

Do you have to be a model to join runaway or somthing

Like goddamn

[rapid oxide]

Model? Im not into boys but kr aren't that much good/hot tbh 🤔

[spring lintel]

Wait they call them idols

They are like that weird idols thing in korea/japan/china

[rapid oxide]

I listen to some kpop/krock

[quasi python]

Lol 2easy

[spring lintel]

I prefer the female part

[rapid oxide]

And males are waaaaay more hot

[spring lintel]

But they can be males too

[rapid oxide]

Than apex players

They are idols

[quasi python]

Any tourney today?

[balmy wolf]

OCS

[rapid oxide]

No

rekt

Forgot

[spring lintel]

Guys I am making a team of scrubs and joining tournaments

[balmy wolf]

coL vs Evil

Liquid vs RNG

[spring lintel]

When?

[quasi python]

Channel??

[balmy wolf]

5 and a half hours

[spring lintel]

Oh ffs

[rapid oxide]

Evil bleah

[balmy wolf]

In the channel description @quasi python

[spring lintel]

Is it gonna be good?

[balmy wolf]

Yes

[rapid oxide]

Evil will most likely stomp col

[junior falcon]

What do you guys think of Liquid vs RNG ?

[balmy wolf]

RNG will probably take it

But Liquid are looking a lot better than they were last week

Rapha getting used to Lucio

Shadder getting used to the team

[rapid oxide]

bet on liquid

[junior falcon]

i was thinking of making a small bet on liquid

since they have 3x odds

[rapid oxide]

http://hammersesports.com/en/blog/2017/03/07/hammers-esports-signs-top-eu-team-chavs/

Hammers Esport signed The chavs!

Guess i can still cheer for them! 😄

[balmy wolf]

WOOOOO

LETS GO

[rapid oxide]

@limber pine dont change flair or /r/ow xD

but dunno if this was worth 🤔

guess LG payed a fucktons

[balmy wolf]

LG probably didn't have to pay much

[rapid oxide]

why then drop a team that is going really really well?

eu scene is dead

[balmy wolf]

Hammers probably knew they could pick up another team

The Chavs are really good too

They didnt really lose much imo

[rapid oxide]

honestly yeah, lg is higher tier compared to hammer

chavs didn't lose anything at all hehe

what scares me most

is that they will move in us too

[balmy wolf]

Well

They probably will

Considering Hammers is a North American org

[dim geyser]

anyone have VOD links to the recent 2 Apex games? trying to avoid spoilers lol, else I'd find them on over.gg or r/competitiveoverwatch

[balmy wolf]

And theres not really anything for them in EU atm

[rapid oxide]

:c

sob

[balmy wolf]

There should be VODs on OGNGlobal @dim geyser

Blame Blizz

[dim geyser]

cool I'll check that out 😄

[pine star]

I love listening to Jake talk

LG Evil's captain

The dude knows what he's talking about

[solid spear]

Hmmm where?

[pine star]

The Overview @ ChanmanV twitch channel

It's about to end I reckon

[solid spear]

I'll watch a vod before Carbon then thx

[pine star]

Co-hosts are JKaplan and Fishstix if you have never watched the show

I really enjoy it

[rapid oxide]

Nesh and Meza will play for CoL today

[balmy wolf]

They were looking good with Dcop and Bischu

[rapid oxide]

Guess they will try a lot and then decide?

idk

[clever wagon]

What's in today's Carbon

[balmy wolf]

LG evil vs coL

Liquid vs RNG

[clever wagon]

O shit

[pine star]

coL about to get rekt

[clever wagon]

What time does it say for you guys here http://carbon.gg/ocs/match/15

Is it using user local time? 'Cause Carbon always start around 8-9 AM here and it says 8:15 AM

[balmy wolf]

Yeah it goes by your local time

[clever wagon]

Ahhh neat

[balmy wolf]

It's quarter past 1 for me

[toxic yacht]

fucking nice, lol

every website should do that

I hate how gosu gives me some retarded hour count and wants to to do it myself instead of just using my system time and doing some mathemagics

or get my timezone based off my ip

[balmy wolf]

Its not really that big of a deal

I use the gosu matchticker aswell

Which says the amount of hours till its on

which works for every timezone

[clever wagon]

Forgot I already have Matchticker installed

[vestal mortar]

Same

[clever wagon]

Is ChanmanV's podcast the one where Jake busted out his Chinese proficiency?

[sick musk]

Hey anyone here from an Esports team that has experience with holding tryouts?

[clever wagon]

Ah yeah it is

[balmy wolf]

@sick musk #lf-players-na

[sick musk]

Oh thanks

[pine star]

@clever wagon Jake's cantonese

[clever wagon]

10 MINUTES BOIS

[digital pond]

Hype

[clever wagon]

EVIL SHALL PREVAIL

[balmy wolf]

https://www.twitch.tv/carbonentertainment

Starting now

After 30 minutes of overtalk*

[clever wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MoWf9AUfGA new ChanmanV Overview with Jake

Fresharino apparently, 12 mins ago uploaded

and another 1.5 hrs ayy

With JKap wooo

Who said JKap x Uber #1 here ytd

[balmy wolf]

@toxic yacht

I think that too

Best duo

[clever wagon]

Evil strangely ran DVa so much compared to yesterday

[onyx hull]

ZP has pretty hands

[forest raven]

I think JKap and Uber are number one

[onyx hull]

shake did a nice work with those discord orbs

[balmy wolf]

😈 TIME 😈 TO 😈 WATCH 😈 MY 😈 BOY 😈 JAKE 😈 TURN 😈 EVIL 😈

[clever wagon]

ANOTHER PAUSE FROM COMPLEXITY

[onyx hull]

😈⏰😈⏰😈⏰😈⏰😈⏰

[pine star]

Rigged

[forest raven]

LET'S GO CHAMP

[clever wagon]

Goddamn

[balmy wolf]

[clever wagon]

How many times coL have had this shit now? Every match by far?

Every match where they're not winning, that is

[onyx hull]

"trademark CoL pause"

[forest raven]

You do realise most of those pauses turn into a disadvantage for coL, right?

[pine star]

Apparently not this one lol

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uyYi1/5e2ce2be45.png JAKE GETTING THE FAME HYPE

[pine star]

lul

[onyx hull]

i want more voll zarya 😦

[clever wagon]

You see

That's what I'm seeing here

They're so insistent on that DVa pick to cover Jake

It's like LH now

LH insists on covering Jehong and WhoRU to make plays, Evil this match seems to be covering for Jake

I don't like this

[digital pond]

Lmao that screenshot

[onyx hull]

dva ult charged fast

[digital pond]

This round is pretty nice

[pine star]

Jake so good

[digital pond]

Oh boy

[pine star]

coL looking good 😮

[digital pond]

Ya

Tork being able to ge thimself up there on the first point was impressive

[forest raven]

They kinda look like the team that took a map off nV

[digital pond]

I love watching Zarya ❤

[pine star]

So do I?

I don't know why some people find her boring to watch

[forest raven]

Wow

No follow up on grav then Meza shattered Super's shield

[pine star]

Poor shield 😢

Seriously tho

5 ults vs 2

[onyx hull]

defense dive not working huh

[pine star]

That's what you get for not being Rogue

[digital pond]

I don't either Sulli

Always liked it.

[balmy wolf]

Only team I've seen run Dive Defence successfully in NA is Rogue

[digital pond]

Lmao sniper McCree

[pine star]

Bastcree

Configuration: midday

[digital pond]

Holy dead eye

[clever wagon]

LGEEEEE

[onyx hull]

ripperino

[forest raven]

Rekt

[clever wagon]

SUPER FUCKING FAST JAKE DEADEYE TRAIN

THAT'S 2 MAPS OF JAKE POTM IN A ROW

[pine star]

At least it's not Genji slashing pumpkins

[digital pond]

haha

[forest raven]

So Hammers signed The Chavs

[pine star]

Yup

[clever wagon]

JAKE SHOULD BE NEXT HERO, FORGET DOOMFIST

[pine star]

Will RNG lose? Will they win?

Who tf knows

[clever wagon]

Man I'm really happy for LGE and Jake

He's really generating so much hype now

[pine star]

Most inconsistent team rn

[forest raven]

So we have another EU roster leaving EU

[pine star]

I blame OWL

[forest raven]

lol yeah

Though having another top tier EU team in NA will only help to increase the overall skill of the NA scene

[pine star]

Yeah

And the thing is

If the orgs buy a slot for the league, they will pledge for a city in NA

I don't think they can later change said city to an EU city

So, stuck on NA until the end times

[forest raven]

RIP

[clever wagon]

Going up against the bigger Korea scene lul

[pine star]

I wonder if KR orgs will move their teams to NA for the league 🤔

[forest raven]

I feel like C9 really hit the jackpot with Bishop

[clever wagon]

Ex-Panthera, that's the very least you can say imo

[forest raven]

He understands the general culture of NA while also having experience as a Korean pro

[pine star]

I watched him on Oversight with Monte and Thorin

The guy certainly does know his role as a coach

[clever wagon]

He's not as good an interviewee as he is a coach unfortunately in that podcast

[pine star]

Even tho Thorin bullied him all along lol

Yeah

Doesn't help that Thorin is such a bully

[clever wagon]

Probably that

Jake and co just shows so much charisma that a lot of other OW pros don't have

In plays, mentality and loyalty to each other

[pine star]

The sister teams should swap names

[clever wagon]

Other pros would probably jump at a transfer like Hammers to Luminosity without a second thought, while they wanted to move together

[pine star]

J3sus subs

[clever wagon]

I wonder, did he get a new bomb PC

Probably sponsored by Luminosity too

[pine star]

Who?

[digital pond]

Not every pro can move on like TwoEasy

:^)

[pine star]

Jake streaming rn

[digital pond]

Oh shit nice

I cna't believe he's doing this and school

Props to him

[pine star]

He seems like a really inteligent guy

[digital pond]

Articulate helps a lot.

Stream link?

[pine star]

His music tho

Ew.

https://www.twitch.tv/jake_overwatch

[forest raven]

We can't all be perfect

[digital pond]

Those LGE pictures are cut out so awkwardly

[pine star]

lul

[digital pond]

Cause of the background

[pine star]

They look like ID photos

[clever wagon]

Ooo lol get burned Kephrii

[digital pond]

Waht did he say?

[clever wagon]

Some guy asked him in chat it seems "is Kephrii good" to which he said "Kephrii? he always plays the same hero..."

[jovial eagle]

kephrii should mccree

[clever wagon]

Well, we can watch Jake & Spree vs Keph at least

[jovial eagle]

he's so good on mccree

[clever wagon]

B-but muh #1 NA Widow

[jovial eagle]

lul

[clever wagon]

Ooo challenging Widow duel

This HS https://clips.twitch.tv/SwissResoluteDragonfruitANELE

[pine star]

Where the hell did all this J3 subs come from?

[balmy wolf]

They were already here

[clever wagon]

Right after LGE finished and J3sus dropped in the chat

BMing Kephrii hard

This guy holy shit

[pine star]

Jake about to get bodied

[clever wagon]

He said he's gonna soloq to farm triples

FULL HELD SoOn TRIPLEQ

[pine star]

Full held Rogue 😮

[clever wagon]

Goddamn

[forest raven]

"Rogue"

[clever wagon]

To be fair Jake got matched with Spree and Keph tripleq

[pine star]

Which one's Spree?

[forest raven]

eerps

[clever wagon]

That's his smurf

[molten pendant]

so y can i put emojis in chat anymore

[forest raven]

🤔

[balmy wolf]

If you mean this chat you never could

Also this isnt esports

[onyx hull]

missed a lot, why is mangachu on torb

[pine star]

He plays a lot of Torb

Like, a lot

[clever wagon]

Not even watching Carbon rn

[onyx hull]

alright

[balmy wolf]

Then dont talk in this chat @clever wagon

[clever wagon]

Wow

[onyx hull]

lol bm

[clever wagon]

Ok polo sorry

[pine star]

Some didn't got his nap nap

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BraveFinePuddingOneHand

[idle raven]

[forest raven]

AZK ain't bad at Reaper

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[forest raven]

omg this stall

[balmy wolf]

2CP FIXED

[onyx hull]

2cp stalling still strong ...

[forest raven]

This is Misfits vs. Lunatic-Hai all over again

[balmy wolf]

LOOOOOOOL

Jesus fuck Blizzard

Fix this shit

[pine star]

@forest raven that's kind of an exaggeration lol

[forest raven]

They stalled for a fuck tonne of time

Maybe not 40 kills amount of time

But probably like 25

[pine star]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

That was easily 3 team wipes

[onyx hull]

i think it was a full 1 min

[balmy wolf]

and 0 kills for RNG

That was probaby close to 2 minutes

[forest raven]

I think LH got 41 and Misfits got 3

NICE KILL SHADDER

[pine star]

Damn

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AntsyYummyStinkbugDoubleRainbow

[forest raven]

NICE KILL SHADDER

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringConfidentRedpandaShazBotstix

[onyx hull]

usually people switch from widow if they don't get early picks, did j3sus kept on widow only to diverge attention?

[idle raven]

didnt watch but u cn play widow 2 force enemy to play more passive giving u more space

[onyx hull]

yeah that's what i meant, bad wording.

[forest raven]

ID playing dps

[idle raven]

rapha playing lucio

[balmy wolf]

ID playing DPS and not Reaper

[onyx hull]

lol

[forest raven]

Rapha's on Lucio because he's supposed to be an amazing shotcaller

[pine star]

^

[idle raven]

"Rapha just needs to learn the health pack patterns and he'll 1v6 everyone solo"

e l e g i g g l e

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/OpenStrongPigSoBayed

Drawnubis?

WHOWOULDATHUNKIT

[forest raven]

ID on 76 again

[balmy wolf]

Shadder on 76

https://clips.twitch.tv/BillowingPatientRhinocerosDancingBanana

This is why Heal Denial needs to be 50%

lulquid

[forest raven]

[solid spear]

Ana don't need more nerfs

[balmy wolf]

nah she do

https://clips.twitch.tv/TriangularDeafOrangeSaltBae

[forest raven]

Did Liquid just backcap?

LUL

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BeautifulGrossPidgeonTheThing

Good blade

So many ults used though

https://clips.twitch.tv/CrunchyCourageousBaconRickroll

daaang

[digital pond]

MFW I realise the owner of Selfless is Rank 3 consistantly

[clever wagon]

Who

[balmy wolf]

The owner of Selfless Gaming

[rapid oxide]

Rank 3?

[balmy wolf]

On the NA leaderboards

[digital pond]

SelflessGG is the owner

He's been top 10 s3 consistantly

[digital pond]

Lmao

Nico and Unkoe got cucked by Dogman

And are calling him an aimbot cheater

[vestal mortar]

Wow

[digital pond]

They're hardcore backtracking now

[toxic yacht]

lol

[digital pond]

Cause they realized chat went into "Let's start drama" mode.

"We didn't accuse him wtf shut up guys"

Meanwhile Unkoe screamed "Wow he has a fucking aimbot, he's Calvin's friend and they room together that explains the cheating"

[forest raven]

Unkoe is such a salty fuck

[drowsy arrow]

🥖

[digital pond]

Yeh

[balmy wolf]

My favourite Support player though

I cant bring myself to hate him

[digital pond]

Oh I love his gameplay.

He can just be a whiny bitch

[solid spear]

Envyus is gonna have serious problems if the mera shifts back to Zen dive like it seems it will

[clever wagon]

Jake in the latest Overview just became a market analyst for OWL

[solid spear]

Yeah just finished watching it

Hope he continues to come on

[clever wagon]

Definitely won't say no to more Jake in podcasts

[clever wagon]

"It looks like you mostly play Reinhardt with his hammer, not with his shield.
I trust my teammates. They’ll manage to survive on their own. They have no complaints about my “unusual” Reinhardt play. I’m not good with heroes like Genji, but I am pretty good with Reinhardt’s hammer. I’ve heard Zenyatta is now strong enough to break through Reinhardt’s shield after his buff, but I guess that doesn’t really apply to me. [smiles]
"

THIS

IS

WHY

FUCKING

[toxic yacht]

you're such a hammer's LG Evil fanboy

[clever wagon]

LOWER THAN MASTER COMPETITIVE

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[clever wagon]

That's Kaiser btw

From the inven interview

[edgy remnant]

who

[toxic yacht]

oh, kaiser

kaiser is the main tank from runaway

[edgy remnant]

lel

[clever wagon]

Fuck dude if I can at least trust plat players to know when to be careful when I do play Rein, or position themselves when they Ana

I'll fuckin play him if u want

[edgy remnant]

i refuse to play rein

[clever wagon]

BUT THAT IS BASICALLY FICTION IN PLATS haHAA

[edgy remnant]

maybe you should try playing him kaiser style

[clever wagon]

I know my Reinhardt play is better than I was back before S2

Patient with pins, find the right window to hammer around

But apparently that is not enough when u soloq

@toxic yacht Also yes I'm a fanboy

[pine star]

Jake + Flame + Ster on the desk?

[clever wagon]

What?

For match casting/analysis u mean?

Lol Nico seems to be super tilted against Jake in comp

https://clips.twitch.tv/CourageousCrepuscularCrabsArgieB8 redefining "reverse sweep"

[pine star]

Not casting, just on the analyst desk @clever wagon

[clever wagon]

All for it

Jake's just bullying Nico across 3 games in that post-match stream

[pine star]

So

Nico and Unkoe are salty little fucks

?

[clever wagon]

No idea

[toxic yacht]

Sooo, my predictions for the new Misfits positions. Forgive my formattibg (or lack thereof) because mobile: DPS - TviQ, Nevix | Tanks - Reinforce, Mannetens permanently on off tank, can flex into third dps | Supports - Zebbo back on Lucio, Zave on main healer, if he plays that

Just my random ass speculations based off older lineups + a bit of guessing

[pine star]

Can Zave even play Ana or Zen?

[toxic yacht]

That's why I wrote "If he plays that"

[pine star]

Maybe Zebo as Ana?

[solid spear]

Lol Ana

You mean Zen

[balmy wolf]

Dive with Nevix and Tviq on DPS

😈

[solid spear]

I can't wait for McCree dive

[toxic yacht]

Usually what they play in comp is a good indicator of what they're practicing/what they play overall, although you should take it with a few truckloads of salt

Zave mostly plays ana in ranked

I'll have to check out vods of him back on LG

Can figure out what he plays then

[solid spear]

Zaves Zen was crisp

[vestal mortar]

Oooh, I do enjoy some crispy Zen. I am looking forward to more Zen being played again! 😄

[solid spear]

Zens cool

Not looking forward to more mirrors but eh

[toxic yacht]

If Zave plays zen the positions would make perfect sense

Am just curious about Mannetens ability to play all off-tanks

[pine star]

I may just main Zen this season

[balmy wolf]

Im looking forward to seeing more of Rogues Dive

[pine star]

I'm looking forward to seeing what the hell is NV planning to do this meta

[balmy wolf]

🇪🇺 BONJOUR disbanded 🇪🇺 Reunited rebranded 🇪🇺 Chavs signed 🇪🇺 EU resigned 🇪🇺 Welcome RED 🇪🇺 EU DEAD 🇪🇺 🔫

[toxic yacht]

Go on a "We almost won but those meddling EU teams keep rektening us in the finals" streak again?

[pine star]

lul likely

Or put Mickie on Genji and hope he's a god somehow

[toxic yacht]

~~Or according to Polo, delete Mickie ~~

[balmy wolf]

#BringBackTalespin

[pine star]

@toxic yacht not gonna happen

@balmy wolf also not gonna happen

[clever wagon]

Not gonna happen

NV needs to widen their hero pool if they even want to do anything

[rapid oxide]

I agree with polo

https://twitter.com/EnVy_Taimou/status/839183327739301888

Sure

[balmy wolf]

Taimou

Not tilting

[pine star]

Lul

He's the tiltiest tilter that has ever tilted in pro OW

[clever wagon]

If u think about it

Jake and Train combined had wider hero pool than Taimou Mickie Harryhook

[balmy wolf]

Indeed

But they lack the mechanical skill

[clever wagon]

Mccree, DVa, tracer, genji, hog, soldier vs DVa, soldier, reaper, mccree, hog

Cant wait to see how my boys fare against nv

No matter when that would happen

What they lack mechanically they make up with game sense, mentality, hero options and strategy

[pine star]

Tbf, NV can win in strategy

[clever wagon]

Well, Evil just havent expanded into dive yet

But they still have more actually working variations for Rein comps than what NV has showed past their meta lol

Granted they only have met Rogue for a diver team

[pine star]

True

I think NV's only problem rn is hero pool

You can't say NV lack strategy and game sense lol

[toxic yacht]

NV likely has more strategy and gamesense than any western team

[clever wagon]

They lose them real quick once Taimou go into tilt

Both teams have shotcalling dps too

[rapid oxide]

wtf are you talking about

[clever wagon]

Its funny

[rapid oxide]

Taimou doesn't tilt

[clever wagon]

But i dont understand

More strategy how?

[pine star]

They setup top tier crossfires, combos, flanks, etc

Which are useless if they're not playing the right heroes, but still

[vestal mortar]

Taimou's tweet

[pine star]

Also, just look at their Gibraltar defense

[forest raven]

I'd call those tactics

[pine star]

If that is not strategy, I don't know what is

[forest raven]

WB defence is a strategy

[clever wagon]

Wb?

[forest raven]

Watchpoint I meant

[pine star]

If they figure out their hero pools, they're good

[forest raven]

But NV's strategy throughout most of apex was "have taimou clutch"

[clever wagon]

Thats what i was saying, part of

Strategy wise they cant figure out what they can work out with harry taimou mickie

Esp past their meta

Cocco had his reinhardt pick 97% throughout Apex compared to other main tank players who averaged at 70ish%

[pine star]

@forest raven yeah, because they can't do anything else with their current hero pools

I'm not defending NV by any means

They played like ass throughout all of Apex

But they're better than people give them credit for

And all of their problems scream hero pool

[past oar]

is group B starting next week?

[vestal mortar]

Yeah group B seems to be next week

[balmy wolf]

Still LH vs Uncia

[pine star]

Runaway hype

[past oar]

excited to watch LW

[clever wagon]

It is now the era of villains in green

LG Evil

[limber pine]

[thin elk]

I forgot about the 40 years of talking that goes on before anything happens

[solid spear]

whats up with Eiss?

[clever wagon]

What's with Eissfeldt

Oh Carbon is it

[clever wagon]

So

LTJ said EscA and Zunba acts as WhoRU and RJH's support to let them make plays

Also the reason why especially EscA plays so passively

And it's probably quite the burden on him having to create windows for WhoRU while also having to shotcall as a DPS

Not even Taimou has to think about that many things at once

And that probably became apparent when they met Runaway who has Runner who is a great shotcaller in support position

[ripe marlin]

where is eissfeldt

[onyx hull]

wow i thought soOn was on bonjour before

they had great talents

[ashen umbra]

I just spent a decade of my life looking for NRG on the Gosu rankings.

Only to realize it wasn't there.

[jovial eagle]

i don't know what that is

but nrg still doesn't have an official 6 man roster

[digital pond]

LTJ said explicitly when Zunba joined they had to team him to play passively because he was too Aggressive for the team. @clever wagon

And teach him that his role was different.

[digital pond]

Holy c9 Batman.

[forest raven]

LUL

[digital pond]

Mindblown.

[ashen umbra]

Forget what I've said about some of these NA teams being better than people think. I'm ready to bow down to our Korean overlords after that game.

[forest raven]

I mean

LG Loyal is an EU roster

[digital pond]

It was messy on both side at times.

[ashen umbra]

Seriously, I'm going to chalk it more up to Loyal having two new players and Complexity already being a floundering team who just lost their only playmaker. But still awful.

[jovial eagle]

as a seagull fanboy, the lack of nrg mentions makes me depressed

[forest raven]

Dummy said near the end of the month

[jovial eagle]

wewt

[clever wagon]

Loyal 2 new players? Who

Also @ashen umbra I dont know what else Evil has shown other than being better than most of the teams outside of those that has been in apex

Yes I'm a fanboy

[pastel ocean]

Anyone know how long Immortals vs Renegades is delayed for?

postponed*

[limber pine]

no clue

[clever wagon]

Detroit outage they said

Storms

So nobody will know

[dusty surge]

Internet tourney?

[clever wagon]

Carbon

@digital pond Yes and he also says his role with zunba is now to support RJH and WhoRU

Which is my point

Him being too aggressive is not the problem here now

[digital pond]

I was supporting your point with more of what he said.

[iron mauve]

So is Hammers going to compete in EU or NA now? They acquired The Chavs or whoever that team is. (Formerly Luminosity EVIL)

[forest raven]

They'll probably be relocating the team to NA

[iron mauve]

Interesting.

[forest raven]

Hammers is an NA org

[iron mauve]

Yeah.

[opal quail]

hi

[junior hazel]

Can anyone suggest me any PS4 tournaments?

[clever wagon]

Not sure if there is any, even

Probably small, community/regional based ones at most, held by fellow players. If there is any at all

[forest raven]

The Overguard holds console tournaments @junior hazel

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOverguard/ @junior hazel

Might have to turn off the css

[junior hazel]

Cheers, looking around haven't been able to find many

[forest raven]

np fam

[clever wagon]

I was wrong

How's todays Carbon

LGL such a fuck up?

[toxic yacht]

The Irish gathering is a ps4 tournament ifyouknowwhatimean

[forest raven]

The fact that Hidan is on LGL

It makes me so sad

[digital pond]

I feel like there's a lot of reliance on Hidan and Spree in that team.

And Spree just ends up overextending trying to make plays.

[forest raven]

Yeah

Spree's Zarya is OP

[toxic yacht]

Because Hidan and Spree try to hardcarry mostly dead weight

[forest raven]

But sometimes his gravs are not the greatest

[digital pond]

Basically you can tell when Spree is trying really hard he does things he wouldn't.

But he has to try.

[forest raven]

But Hidan

That dude outshone SoOn with Zenyatta when he was on Misfits

And now he's on LGL

[digital pond]

I'm just hoping it gets better otherwise people are gonna get replaced. I know Spree is being loyal.

But this streak is pretty rough.

[forest raven]

With how long they've been together

[digital pond]

Also it wasn't a pun on loyal.

I swear.

[forest raven]

Does LGL have a coach?

[digital pond]

I don't know but I would think so. LGE got one.

[toxic yacht]

They've been together since the three way trade

[forest raven]

By now they should have the chemistry

Probably time for some roster changes

[toxic yacht]

Obviously it's only worked out for Misfits and Rogue, lol

Especially Misfits

[forest raven]

More so than Eiss and Mineral

[digital pond]

Surprised Eiss was out so fast

[forest raven]

Superplouk still in and Eiss out

[digital pond]

Hopefully OWL age restriction is 17 and not 18.

[clever wagon]

Do we have LG Evil flair yet on r/cow

[digital pond]

Never checked.

[toxic yacht]

not yet

lol, indust

nice nickname

[rain herald]

what nickname

[toxic yacht]

indust

well, username

[rain herald]

ty

this place has a crazy amount of users holy damn

[toxic yacht]

40k or some shit

[clever wagon]

Its the discord of the biggest gaming subs atm

Not surprising

[rain herald]

is anything special required to stream gameplay on my pc to twitch through my laptop?

[toxic yacht]

/r/lol is still larger

iirc

[clever wagon]

What

[rain herald]

i think that's a thing right

[toxic yacht]

I'm not sure, have no idea how to twitch

[rain herald]

it's a good laptop

maybe a capture card

[clever wagon]

You stream to twitch from the PC you're playing

Using OBS or some other streaming software

[rain herald]

it's not good enough to avoid performance drawbacks

[clever wagon]

You need i7/ryzen and GTX 1070 or higher to stream withoout significant performance impact, or you have to lower ur game settings by a lot

"Good laptop" doesnt explain much either

I dont get "stream gameplay on PC through laptop" either

[rain herald]

send captured video on my pc -> to my laptop which will be the one taking the hit for streaming

[clever wagon]

Uh...

[quartz wren]

it's a pretty common setup actually @clever wagon

[clever wagon]

Not sure if you can do that

[quartz wren]

well, not with a laptop

[rain herald]

😄

[quartz wren]

but bigger streamers usually have a dedicated streaming machine that they send the footage from their main computer to

if it has a decent enough CPU it should be fine @rain herald

[clever wagon]

Huh

[toxic yacht]

Not sure if real indust

or a disgusting fanboy like me

🤔

[rain herald]

it's me

back from my hyperbolic time chamber i use to avoid the harsh minnesotan winter

[toxic yacht]

I wonder how LG will be handled with the OWL

🤔

I doubt that they'd buy two spots if they cost 2-5 million

Probably they'll drop LG Loyal

if they only take one team

but they're currently doing tryouts, so I doubt that they'd drop them this easily

[vestal mortar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rapid escarp]

is ogn

today

[forest raven]

Tomorrow @rapid escarp

I believe

[rapid escarp]

fuk

[forest raven]

Yes it's tomorrow

Only the one game

Lunatic-Hai vs. KongDoo Uncia

[clever wagon]

Apex is Tuesday and Friday 7 PM Korea time

People raging APEX is so drawn out

When it's also broadcasting in KR national television therefore has to accomodate TV schedules

Boi Kaiser is such a memer

Good to have a KR team member who can English in Twitter

[pine star]

Yeah lol

His Q&A was hilarious

https://twitter.com/gogo4153/status/839743986407374848

[clever wagon]

We need these OW pro player faces for Twitch/BTTV global emote

Verbo though

Left bird noises for Immortals

Got bodied 3-0

[balmy wolf]

Wait did Eiss leave Loyal too?

[vestal mortar]

I would love emotes of Zebbosai after he had the spicy food and Reinforce with his head in his hands. Maybe one day! Haha

[toxic yacht]

I made the one with reinforce an emote

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

polo should have it

there you go

[balmy wolf]

I dont have the zebbo picture

[toxic yacht]

tbh I don't like the emote all that much since reinforce was actually crying (or was at least really devastated) during it

but I kinda felt like emoting it because it perfectly fit

[forest raven]

Why was he crying @toxic yacht

[toxic yacht]

back when they just barely lost vs Misfits

at the ow open

[forest raven]

Ah

[toxic yacht]

EU finals

[vestal mortar]

:C

Now I feel sad

[toxic yacht]

:/

[balmy wolf]

Do you still have the full image @toxic yacht

[toxic yacht]

of course, who the hell do you think I am

[pine star]

He has it printed in his wallet

[toxic yacht]

I didn't screenshot it 16:9 though

[pine star]

Also as a poster in his room

[balmy wolf]

Damn it

[jovial eagle]

never heard of reinforce

but i respect that

[balmy wolf]

How have you never heard of Reinforce

[clever wagon]

Wow

How

[jovial eagle]

mostly because i only know the gull

well i know a few, seagull's being one of the pros

[toxic yacht]

better version

[vestal mortar]

I always thought Reinforce was very well known, especially after the world cup.

[jovial eagle]

i didn't care that much about the world cup actually

when i learned muscle k was on team australia

that pretty much killed my interest

i saw the world cup as a fluffer for blizzard to advertise the game

and not really an actual competitive tournament

[pine star]

Which it was

[toxic yacht]

well, it was that

just really entertaining fluffer

[pine star]

Yeah

[toxic yacht]

ShaDowBurn at 144 tick with no ping and 144 hertz was especially amazing

[pine star]

Fucking Shadowburn I tell ya

[vestal mortar]

He was on old Rogue too, one of the top teams in the world, winning the Atlantic showdown.

[balmy wolf]

And APAC

[vestal mortar]

Yep!

Maybe that was just a really stand out time for me but I thought everyone knew Reinforce because of those moments. 😛

The way he plays Reinheardt is really unforgettable

[toxic yacht]

I knew reinforce because of how much everyone was shitting on him

:P

[vestal mortar]

That too, people criticising his agression haha

[pine star]

He should switch names with Gambler

[clever wagon]

Muselk lol

[forest raven]

TRIGGERED

[pine star]

Muscle K

[clever wagon]

I mean

Even Ster did TF2 competitive for a bit

With b4nny, Tagg and some others

[pine star]

Why do you thing he ended up on Lucio?

[balmy wolf]

He plays support

[clever wagon]

Who ended up on Lucio

[pine star]

Muscle K

In the World Cup

[clever wagon]

Didn't even watch the World Cup when it was live tbh

Only bits of Korea like from QF onwards

[pine star]

Did you see Korea vs Australia?

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[clever wagon]

No

[toxic yacht]

that was hilarious

[pine star]

It was absolutely hilarious

[toxic yacht]

nanosymmetra vs nanogenji

[pine star]

You should watch it

[toxic yacht]

south korea

was half of lunatic hai

[clever wagon]

I didn't really care back then, nor do I do now

[toxic yacht]

now two thirds

[vestal mortar]

Oh my gosh you just reminded me of that

[clever wagon]

The other way around Sojum

[toxic yacht]

since zunba was on the world cup team

[clever wagon]

Lol

[toxic yacht]

nah, not the other way

esca, miro, jehong are half

[pine star]

Fuckin'Arhan on Bastion

[clever wagon]

...

[toxic yacht]

• zunba it's two thirds

[vestal mortar]

Haha

[toxic yacht]

also, arhan

lol

when we thought he was good

[clever wagon]

Fuck my grammar, but isn't it supposed to be "LH was half of SK team, now 2/3"?

[toxic yacht]

that's what I said, lul

[clever wagon]

No you didn't :/

[pine star]

Now kiss

[clever wagon]

You said SK was half of LH, that would mean SK back then was half--

[toxic yacht]

I'd love to kiss him

:)

[clever wagon]

Wait

[toxic yacht]

no homo

[clever wagon]

Ah fuck it

[vestal mortar]

It was half back then, now Zunba is in Lunatic Hai

[clever wagon]

Now that Zunba is also in LH, LH is 2/3 of SK team

Uh

dsmfs;kdmfowsiemnfsled

[vestal mortar]

Yes

[pine star]

Derp

[vestal mortar]

C:

[toxic yacht]

kek

torb symmetra on defense

before it became meta

[vestal mortar]

It's okay, it is pretty confusing to phrase

[clever wagon]

@forest raven rip not gonna be scrimming with this shit english tbh

[toxic yacht]

with nano-indian

pls, 2B

[pine star]

We all non English natives have been there @clever wagon

[toxic yacht]

gankyou

whatever

if you think your english is trash

we have a bunch of mutes in scrims anyway

aimer and exxu never speak

Polo used to be mute for the longest time

[clever wagon]

Huhauauh

Changed nickname again

Gonna need LG Evil logo

[toxic yacht]

lol

[pine star]

I once said "reverse swap" on team chat

They all made fun of me ):

[clever wagon]

I hate to replace the 2B portrait but it has to be done

[vestal mortar]

Awwww

[balmy wolf]

[vestal mortar]

I am always happy for people to try communicate, even if their English isn't very good

[toxic yacht]

http://carbon.gg/ocs/Content/Uploads/kqSlIItWUeViHbKRvdqrQ.png

[clever wagon]

Perfec--

Wait

[toxic yacht]

lmao, I love the logo

[clever wagon]

HIGHER RESOLUTION YES

Fuck the 200x200 I got from over.gg

[vestal mortar]

Niceee!

[balmy wolf]

Is good

[clever wagon]

STOP

Yus

It's done

[spring lintel]

Any esport tnight

[toxic yacht]

nope

[clever wagon]

Install the Gosu Matchticker for chrome @spring lintel

[spring lintel]

Sure

[pine star]

I picture 2B as a high pitch screaming fangirl

Is that wrong?

[toxic yacht]

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gosugamers-chrome-extensi/lhpjniojlbdhldmiaefpmekpihnlgilj?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon

chrome link

[vestal mortar]

same

[toxic yacht]

if you use chrome

[clever wagon]

@pine star lul

[balmy wolf]

[clever wagon]

Tfw Evil isn't playing for another 5 days

[vestal mortar]

Will you survive?

[clever wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNDl41HfvxI

I will, so I can watch them

I can't watch them if I don't

[vestal mortar]

Haha very true

[clever wagon]

I mean

I guess you can look at it like

[toxic yacht]

inb4 gankyou is a cute LH fangirl

[clever wagon]

Jake and friends is the "villain" to LGL

Then they chose the name Evil for them

[toxic yacht]

So "Loyal" that they're replacing a bunch

lol

Looks like LG isn't particularily loyal to them

[pine star]

Who's out besides Mineral?

[toxic yacht]

they're currently trying Realzx and some dude from bunjour

[forest raven]

Hqrdest

[toxic yacht]

yee

[balmy wolf]

Eiss is gone

[dusty surge]

I swear, every tournament these teams have different players.