esports-discussion

[toxic yacht]

pretty sure he was

am confused now

🇮🇹

[balmy wolf]

I just know he lives in Italy

Dont know if he's from there

[rapid oxide]

@silk linden you italian m8?

Good italians btw are carnifex ans hal

That's it :/

[toxic yacht]

hal is italian?

TIL

[rapid oxide]

Yes

[vestal mortar]

I have no idea where anybody is from

[rapid oxide]

Brother of stermy, the best italian quake player

[toxic yacht]

half the players from top teams are swedish

that's all you need to know

[rapid oxide]

Literally in every games

[toxic yacht]

literally every fps

swedish domination

atm csgo is danish domination though

[rapid oxide]

And poland

And Brazilian

iirc SK, VP and Astralis are the top tier 1

Atm

[toxic yacht]

and as expected, no NA

[rapid oxide]

Clown 9

NA are trash at fps

[toxic yacht]

[rapid oxide]

Rogue, Envy Misfits

All EU

[vestal mortar]

I know where most pros are from 😛

[rapid oxide]

Korea

[toxic yacht]

I know where the pros I care about are from

half of them are swedish

which surprises no one

btw, most of the active people here are EU iirc

[vestal mortar]

FeelsEUMan

[silk linden]

Stop talking about me, I'm on mobile today and every message I type takes years out of my life

[balmy wolf]

Italy yes or no

[toxic yacht]

yee

[balmy wolf]

[vestal mortar]

Yeee

[silk linden]

I thought being Italian was literally my only clearly established defining trait in here.

Oh, and hating Mercy.

[spring lintel]

The question is do you hate mei?

Like every decent human being

[clever wagon]

Helpless old man https://clips.twitch.tv/ReliableSuperCaterpillarSMOrc

Only 4 SR playing in a team with him the only GM vs 3 GMs

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[vestal mortar]

omg

[vestal mortar]

Harb pls

"I don't need energy, I'm already on the team coughcough"

[clever wagon]

65% avg energy

[vestal mortar]

Insane

[clever wagon]

Back in the day http://imgur.com/a/gD3fV

[jovial eagle]

who first ran ana

in tournaments?

i don't remember

[toxic yacht]

NRG, NiP

zappis came up with 3-3

[jovial eagle]

lol

gg

[clever wagon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ConfidentSpikyPineappleBlargNaut

josdnfojksdnfojusadbnFoiuskwenhdfoiulkswde

[vestal mortar]

They must be announcing soon because Harb is just saying it now.

[jovial eagle]

cheeky harb

oh btw

hog feels great now

[solid spear]

New Hog is better

[drowsy arrow]

dont worry

hog right clicks are great against tracers now 🤕 🔫

[toxic yacht]

oh yeah, he got buffed

I forgot

🙃

[rapid oxide]

https://pvplive.net/c/overwatch-league-could-cost-as-much-as-15-million-

https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/838780527146635264

it's a drop in the bucket for this big investors

but... 15 milion wtf

[vestal mortar]

Wow!

[dusty surge]

15 million for what?

[rapid oxide]

a spot in the overwatch league

[balmy wolf]

thats only if you want the LA spot tho

or "a" la spot

[rapid oxide]

yep

[balmy wolf]

assuming theres more than one

[dusty surge]

Woah, what?

[rapid oxide]

1-2 for others

[dusty surge]

That seems pretty high.

[rapid oxide]

because there are a tons of esport org in la

[dusty surge]

Like, excessively so.

[balmy wolf]

but $2-5m for orgs with big name investors is pocket change

[rapid oxide]

for nba/nhl investors

are just penny

[balmy wolf]

for orgs without investors...good luck

[rapid oxide]

but obv they wont waste their money

it says that it's permanent

so you buy just once

[balmy wolf]

theres no relegation so

investors like franchise

[rapid oxide]

indeed

relegation works in soccer

because it's an old and estabilished business

[balmy wolf]

yah

[dusty surge]

Better start saving them quarters.

[clever wagon]

Hammers and Jake getting the love

[balmy wolf]

jake is nuts

shotcalls for his team and plays dps

[clever wagon]

Oh hey Toy

teamOFsnow started scrimming n stuff yet?

[balmy wolf]

yeah we're like 3-4 days in or so i think

[clever wagon]

Shotcalls, team captain, impressive dps, finishing school

Did you gather in a team house or something?

[balmy wolf]

nah

[digital pond]

That shit is too high for something not even established lmao.

In a scene so damn new.

[limber pine]

SBJ has removed the article's paywall: http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2017/03/06/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/Blizzard.aspx

[digital pond]

Blizzard: Can you not?

I still think that's a big investment to ask for. Especially since tournaments from Blizz have be scarce. maybe it's because they are prepping the OWL but there's no real insurance. And buying a low spot and making it popular might be more beneficial.

I mean I'm just saying stuff frankly.

[limber pine]

It's no secret a lot hinges on the OWL

but there's a difference between demanding 2-3 mil and hoping it will get there

[balmy wolf]

I think they should be more transparant then if they haven't won over the trust of the investors

Apparently the know just as little as we about it

If they have a good plan and everything's progressing smoothly, the investors would be interested to hear about it

Unless Blizz is lying and they don't have it together at all I don't really see their reasoning not keeping the investors up to date

[pseudo sail]

Hey folks, been trying to work out a new format for the APEX recaps, was hoping to get some feedback on how do the graphics look to people, are they easy to read and whatever else you can think of.
Here's the link for the test > https://medium.com/@RadoNonfire/apex-s2-ro8-day-1-5b07f2c45803

[sour wraith]

so LG vs Liquid and Hammers vs Immortals what are the expected results

[rapid oxide]

LG and hammer

Hammer IMT may be close

Liquid will see how shadder perform

[sour wraith]

how bout the 5am APEX matches LH vs RunAway and nV vs K. Uncia

[rapid oxide]

LH and dunno for the 2nd

[sour wraith]

depends on which nV shows up for me

[rapid oxide]

Both nv and uncia didn't played that well

[sour wraith]

and if Taimou gets tilted

[rapid oxide]

If taimou gets titled most likely uncia will pass

Its

Lack of hero pool vs Lack of strong gameplay

I REALLY hope that IF envy will lose to don't drop players

Because it's fucking stupid to do so

Change players often is not the answer of a team problems

[sour wraith]

they need something

[rapid oxide]

• cough * NRG * cough *

[sour wraith]

yea and its all but confirmed its harb and ajax

I assume they are still working on the Harb buyout

[rapid oxide]

I mean, they get other ppl and be like "hurr durr tf2 veteran we rekt everyone" and played shit

Talking before Harb n co

[sour wraith]

well harb is actually goof

good

[rapid oxide]

Im talking not about harb, ajax and iddqd

The NRG of gods, clockwork etc...

[sour wraith]

clockwork has just disappeared and enigma has dropped out of sight as well

[silk linden]

Who is Ajax anyway?

[sour wraith]

also clockwork was trash

[rapid oxide]

Ex kungarna

[sour wraith]

Ajax is a good igl

[rapid oxide]

Then moved to ghost gaming

Then to TSM

[silk linden]

I know none of the words you said

[sour wraith]

then almost tsm until gods was a bitch

[rapid oxide]

But he got kicked for a "racist " twit

Clockwork is not trash

But he underperformed af

Clockwork was a scout god back to TF2

iirc

[silk linden]

he was the best scout to ever play TF2 probably

but OW never really clicked for him

[sour wraith]

i find it funny that b4nny is still trying to make comp tf2 happen

since 95% of the comp tf2 crowd had come to overwatch

and most of the good tf2 pros have been decent at overwatch other than some of the outliers

[silk linden]

TF2 on some aspects is still a better game than OW. It's understandable that B4nny likes it more

[sour wraith]

then again <1 year old game vs old af tf2

[silk linden]

It was just too niche, too marketed to the casual crowd and too badly handled from Valve unfortunately, because it honestly had the potential of being a good esport

[sour wraith]

valve basically gave up on it. I have like 750 hours in tf2 and overwatch is just so much better

is there only 1 "big" csgo pro in a decent team? AKA has had big lan experience in csgo

AFAIK its oinly AZK

and thats because he cant play csgo professionally anymore

[limber stag]

steel played on spylce for a while but after he was cut he went back to csgo

[sour wraith]

lol

they shouldnt have thrown that game

also should have been unbanned by now

[limber stag]

yeah the whole banning thing was stupid but hey they thought short term rather than long term

[sour wraith]

i mean valve did need to have a heavy hand on it but a lifetime ban is a little much

[rapid oxide]

Too bad steel can't play CSGO anymore lol

He did get unbanned? Wat?

[sour wraith]

no

still banned

[rapid oxide]

That's nice

[sour wraith]

him and dazed still try to play csgo on a pro level

azk has been overwatch since beta iirc

[limber stag]

azk played reflex for awhile as well

[rapid oxide]

Hr can't play tournaments anymore

Esea i think is ok

[sour wraith]

cant even be associated with any valve sponsored event. aka cant even be an analyst for a team

[rapid oxide]

Yep

[pseudo sail]

@sour wraith I expect Uncia to take it 3-1 ^^

[solid spear]

what time does Carbon start tonight?

[balmy wolf]

1,5 more hours

[solid spear]

coo

[pine star]

So we officially have the first sister teams in NA

[balmy wolf]

We do?

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/Luminosity/status/838891677750276096

I liked Hammer More than LG Evil 😡

[pine star]

I kind of dig LG Evil

Fits with their aggro playstyle

[balmy wolf]

So we now have the European LG in LG Loyal

and the North American LG in LG Evil

Nice

[pine star]

Does this mean they'll scrim each other exclusively like KongDoo and Afreeca Freecs?

[digital pond]

Oh 2 LG?

We Korea now

Wait KD and Afreecs scrim exclusively sister teams?

[pine star]

^yup

For what I've heard, yeah

[digital pond]

Does not sound beneficial in the long term lmao

[pine star]

Depends

[digital pond]

LG Evil icon

Cracks me up so hard

[pine star]

What I heard was, and I quote, "almost exclusively"

And iirc, I heard it from Monte

[digital pond]

I mean in the sense to prepare them vs other teams.

[pine star]

Don't remember where he said it tho

May have been on Oversight with Thorin

[digital pond]

It's probably more comfortable of an environment

[balmy wolf]

What's so funny about it @digital pond

[pine star]

You know what cracked me the fuck up?

Avast's highlight

[balmy wolf]

"I look forward to seeing more from them in Overwatch and elsewhere in the esports world, as I know big things will be coming from that brand"

Oooh

Omnious

[digital pond]

I find it funny cause it looks like an evil chibi

With an edgy facemask

[balmy wolf]

But... its the exact same as LG Loyal's

just green

[digital pond]

And they're both funny and crack me up

The green made it funny for me

[balmy wolf]

[rapid oxide]

Scrimming with the same people doesn't help at all

[digital pond]

I mean maybe it makes the environment easier for trying out things before scrimming other people, but I feel like eventually you would need to scrim other people to learn what they do and their habits.

[balmy wolf]

Well I mean

Can sister teams face eachother?

They can right?

[pine star]

It's possible, yeah

But does it really matter? lol

[balmy wolf]

Yeah then I dont really see how it helps

If they didnt face eachother ever, I could see it helping

[pine star]

The same orgs picks up the prize so I don't think the team owners care

[balmy wolf]

Only the two teams knowing the strats they're practicing

[rapid oxide]

Its easier to point at mistakes but you take "the habits" to scrim woth the same peole and you are not versatile against other teams that play different from your sister team

Its ok if yoi have to grow as a team

But its not the case now imo

[balmy wolf]

Yeah but if LG Evil won a tourney, the LG Loyal players wouldn't get the prize money

[pine star]

Is the org or the players who pick the prize money?

[balmy wolf]

pick the prize money?

[pine star]

Yeah

Who gets the prize money of a tournament?

The org as an org, or the players individually?

[rapid oxide]

Org

[clever wagon]

AYYY

Time to change nick

[balmy wolf]

lul

[pine star]

Hammers doesn't existe 2B

[clever wagon]

OwO

[pine star]

Where the hell have you been for the last hour?

[silk linden]

If you think about it, scrimming only against sister teams is what IRL sport teams do.

[pine star]

^

[clever wagon]

Rob's highlight in the intro video though

[pine star]

Fuck Rob

[clever wagon]

GMT+7 brah

[pine star]

Avast

Avast's highlight is lit af

I'm so done with mobile Discord

Fuck that app, geez

[clever wagon]

Also getting a coach + analyst

Wow

Is Train an Indian descent?

Name sounds like it

[pine star]

I wonder if those orgs with sister teams will buy two spots for the OWL (if they buy a spot at all)

Also

If they go to a gaming house... will they all go to the same? or different one?

Also, will Super's mom let him go to a gaming house?

So many questions 🤔

[balmy wolf]

Well they're all already in NA

So playing in tournaments wont be a problem

ping wise

[pine star]

Yeah but

One would assume they have plans for a gaming house

Not now maybe, but down the road? Maybe for the OWL?

[balmy wolf]

I would assume all orgs have plans for offices/houses for their teams

[clever wagon]

Part of the fun indeed was spamming HAMMER TIME

[pine star]

lol that's true

[digital pond]

Lmao fucking Rogue is playing H1Z1

[clever wagon]

SoOn?

[digital pond]

Yeh him and Unkoe

[balmy wolf]

Live Overwatch Carbon Series

Week 3 - Day 1

🇪🇺 LG Loyal vs Team Liquid 🇷🇴

LG Evil vs Immortals

📺 https://www.twitch.tv/carbonentertainment with and
📺 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0PfeqGVBM
🗑 http://carbon.gg/ocs/teams

[stark plinth]

lol

finally

NA learned something from KR

[clever wagon]

https://twitter.com/ian9721 This the real Kaiser???

Seems to be a pretty dank memer if it is

[balmy wolf]

Dive Defence again

[balmy wolf]

Why in the world do they keep running Dive defence

This isnt scrims

[digital pond]

Loyals plz

Spree in OW prison

[pine star]

LOLOLOLOL

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/KathishWrongEelOpieOP

LUL

[pine star]

ZP knows what's up

Dahang's positioning...

[balmy wolf]

They really need to start boosting Shadder

And stop boosting ID

https://clips.twitch.tv/TastyCoyTildeThisIsSparta

Shadder carry

Only if azk had Pulse Bomb for that last fight

[pine star]

dat graviton

It made me depressed

[balmy wolf]

It was a good grav

just literally no follow up

[pine star]

EXACTLY

It was so damn beautiful

[balmy wolf]

Only if azk could have gotten pulse bomb ever

[pine star]

And everyone came out of it alive

FeelsBadMan

[balmy wolf]

Dive Defence again

[pine star]

When NA thinks they can not be Rogue AND run dive defense

[balmy wolf]

you mean can?

[pine star]

can not-be-Rogue

[balmy wolf]

?

[pine star]

nvm

[balmy wolf]

tfw won 3 teamfights and still didnt cap

even with new spawns

2 C P

[pine star]

RIP stream

[clever wagon]

You meant "run dive defense while not being Rogue"

[pine star]

Yeah

[digital pond]

This is hurtful to watch

[pine star]

D E N I E D

lol the BM is real

[forest raven]

So

LG can finally win some tournaments

[balmy wolf]

[pine star]

WHAT IS GOING ON

[forest raven]

Stream died LUL

[pine star]

lol RIP

[sour wraith]

surefours stream was having issues as well

[balmy wolf]

twitch ded

[sour wraith]

Tims stream is fine

[balmy wolf]

The youtube one is working

but terrible frames

[forest raven]

Twitch sucks

[sour wraith]

back but still overwatch.ppt

[forest raven]

[balmy wolf]

Twitch is back

Liquid won

[sour wraith]

dropping frames so bad

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[forest raven]

I think I'm done with the OCS for today

[sour wraith]

ded again

even youtube stream is dead

[edgy remnant]

is it back yet

lul

[balmy wolf]

nope

[forest raven]

Stream's back

Wait

Frames just dropped again

[clever wagon]

Home internet best internet and now I cant even watch on Mobile quality

[balmy wolf]

TIME TO WATCH MICROSOFT POWERPOINT

[clever wagon]

Horribly pixelated powerpoint you cant even read

Theres a YT stream of ocs?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

[clever wagon]

Cant watch ma bois LG rip

[balmy wolf]

That also died though

This is Loyal though

Not Evil

[clever wagon]

Can I get a play by play thru chat heuehueheuh

I know

[balmy wolf]

http://i.imgur.com/qdR0v0O.png

[clever wagon]

I peeked at twitch

2-2

[balmy wolf]

Liquid held 2nd point

[clever wagon]

Fucking hell

[balmy wolf]

Lets go

My bois liquid

LETS GO CHAMP

[edgy remnant]

you engaged in copy pasta

[balmy wolf]

what

[edgy remnant]

it says your name right in the middle

[clever wagon]

Oh fuck i didntrealize its jake

And rob

Dank

[balmy wolf]

that aint me tho @edgy remnant

im polo

https://clips.twitch.tv/JoyousMagnificentDelicataKappaClaus

LETS

GO

CHAMP

https://clips.twitch.tv/IronicFantasticMinkDoggo

Fucking yes

[forest raven]

Liquid won a series

[balmy wolf]

Rapha on Lucio

[forest raven]

No mods in Twitch chat apparently 🤔

[balmy wolf]

Where did that spam even come from

[forest raven]

Bots maybe

[balmy wolf]

No i mean like

whos lmaomaxi

[forest raven]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clever wagon]

NO

No

No...

Not like this

[balmy wolf]

?

[clever wagon]

I was rooting for LG

Both

[balmy wolf]

ah

[forest raven]

STREAM DIED AGAIN

Okay it's all g

[balmy wolf]

IMT throwing vs Evil @forest raven

[forest raven]

IMT got bodied 3-0 LUL

[solid spear]

LG wanted a tier 1 team so they just bought one

lul

[balmy wolf]

[clever wagon]

EVIL HAS TRIUMPHED

JAKE N BAKE

[balmy wolf]

Tomorrow is good day

Evil vs coL and Liquid vs RNG

👏🏻

[solid spear]

coL is gonna get clapped

[clever wagon]

Jake will bake

Also Oasis university was crazy

IMT failed to kill voll

[rapid oxide]

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/838986551363158017

[toxic yacht]

Ana 2.0?

[digital pond]

As in she gets buffed too hard.

And becomes meta for forever until Blizz goes "Maybe we should even her out"

[rapid oxide]

Hammers tier 1? 🤔

[past mural]

Hi

[spring lintel]

Rng will finally play?

[forest raven]

Tomorrow @spring lintel

[spring lintel]

Do they have a roster ?

Who are the last 2

Harb,id,dummy,seagull, who elese?

[forest raven]

Oh you mean NRG

[clever wagon]

Thats NRG

[spring lintel]

Of fuck me

[forest raven]

We don't know when NRG are playing next

[spring lintel]

Nvm

[clever wagon]

Ajax and numlocked

[spring lintel]

They seems to be in tryouts

[forest raven]

It's pretty much confirmed that Harb and Ajax are the last two on the roster

[spring lintel]

Numblocked is confirmed?

[forest raven]

Numlocked has been on the roster since before MLG Vegas

[toxic yacht]

numlocked has been in for a while, he, seags and dummy

[spring lintel]

Oh never knew

[toxic yacht]

were the ones the team would be built around

[spring lintel]

Do you guys think that they will be super powerful like luntic hai?

Or a bit more like envy

[forest raven]

NRG doesn't have the same inflexibilities as nV does

Seagull can play projectile, hitscan if need be and off tank

Harb can off tank and Tracer

idd plays every dps

[clever wagon]

Harb himself confirmed

Idd probably gonna focus on hitscan

[forest raven]

Yeah

Seagull has projectile locked down

[clever wagon]

Seagull does his genji/proj

[forest raven]

And he would play the third tank

[clever wagon]

LH, no idea

Since nobody in their roster have been in APEX

NV? They do have their talents, all we need is for them to prove it

Then again from their matches alone, regardless of opponents, even LG Evil plays the Reinhardt comp better than Nv

I can imagine LGE winning over the current NV really

Or at least a really close game

Jake is on his way to become somewhat of a 2nd TviQ himself

His pool might Not be as wide now but still quite a few heroes more than your usual dps flex

Even more than taimou

[vestal mortar]

NRG are playing at some tourney at the end of the month according to Dummy and Numlocked.

[clever wagon]

Still 3 weeks zzz

uwu

[vestal mortar]

They never said the name of it though.

Yeah :C

[forest raven]

Probably OMM

[clever wagon]

OMM does run near the end of every month

[pseudo sail]

Hey folks, if you or some of your friends are interested in pro Overwatch, but have little or no experience with the game this should be able to ease you into it. As always, feedback both is welcome and appreciated!
https://medium.com/@RadoNonfire/how-to-start-watching-professional-overwatch-matches-cde21a4005d2#.hk9v2gncf

sry for the spam, conspiring w/ the channel mods 🙈

[forest raven]

Good shit, Radon, good shit

👍

[edgy remnant]

[pseudo sail]

thanks @forest raven , hope it's helpful to people.

[forest raven]

50 minutes until the last western team gets bodied

[toxic yacht]

lg evil

lol

[clever wagon]

Last class of the day finished 1hr earlu

Early

Damn

LH v Runaway first?

[forest raven]

Yep

[rapid oxide]

https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2017-03-07-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-omnic-crisis-averted

[forest raven]

Noice

[clever wagon]

Here we go

Dive masters vs the underdogs

[forest raven]

https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal

LUNATIC-HAI VS. RUNAWAY

[clever wagon]

Stitch still a qt but too bad he's not in LH

[forest raven]

Stitch 😍

TOBI CLIPS

[rapid oxide]

miro -> :]

[clever wagon]

According to his twitter, if it's really him, Kaiser seems to be quite the dank memer himself

Despite the super chilled face

[forest raven]

Oh yeah he is

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uxUmm/2175d701bd.png

After I sent out another bait chat about Stitch

[forest raven]

what

kek

[clever wagon]

"Chat moving so fast they won't notice me saying Stitch is a qt"

[forest raven]

[clever wagon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[edgy remnant]

i dont see it

chat was moving 2fast

[forest raven]

LUL RUNNER

[spring lintel]

Guys is there any reinhardt better than super

He was insane in the monthly melee

[forest raven]

Ryb, Re1nforce and Panker are all worldclass Reins

[vestal mortar]

Phew I didn't miss too much

[clever wagon]

"Focus RJH" he said

haHAA

[forest raven]

The reverse sweep feelsbad

[vestal mortar]

I love the crowd haha

Esca is doing things!

[clever wagon]

I'm wondering if I did actually start MiroSMUG

[edgy remnant]

i get it

[vestal mortar]

Whoru! 😮

[forest raven]

They held

[vestal mortar]

It was cute hahaha

[clever wagon]

DPSTobi

[vestal mortar]

oh gosh

[forest raven]

DoA and Monte are great

[vestal mortar]

Yeah I really love their banter 😛

[toxic yacht]

you know, I never mentioned this

but a lot of people think that Runaway may be the first team to beat lunatic hai

[forest raven]

Well RunAway are the 2nd team in APEX to take a map off LH

[toxic yacht]

due to their dive vs dive dynamic

[forest raven]

[toxic yacht]

TISrobin is some korean dude on the sub who keeps us informed about the scene and shit

[forest raven]

Yeah, seen his posts

Always 👌

Also are so infectiously enthusiastic

[clever wagon]

I'M NOT HAPPY 😠

[forest raven]

kek

@clever wagon

[clever wagon]

NO

[forest raven]

Kaiser2SMUG

[clever wagon]

I MEAN STITCH IS STILL A QT BUT I WANT LH TO WIN CLEAN SWEEP

Wait

[rapid oxide]

im fast af boi

[clever wagon]

Tf is SourPls emote

[toxic yacht]

10 seconds more

[forest raven]

A potentially close series

[clever wagon]

3-1 for LH

I WANT

[balmy wolf]

Wait wow

Hammers is LG now

[vestal mortar]

Yep!

[forest raven]

First sister teams in NA

[balmy wolf]

Good signing for them

[toxic yacht]

esca on widow

[vestal mortar]

Esca widow LUL

Not again

[balmy wolf]

Are they playing on the new patch yet?

[toxic yacht]

nope

[forest raven]

Pretty dominant first point take

Typical for LH considering how good they are on 2cp

[toxic yacht]

1 kill per hour esca widow

[forest raven]

[vestal mortar]

Well at least he has gotten like 2 kills this time compared to zero last time 😛

[forest raven]

ESCA HITTING SHOTS

[toxic yacht]

1 shot

then he msses ridiculously easy shit

[forest raven]

He's hit more than 1 shot

[toxic yacht]

runaway held

[vestal mortar]

Esca fighting against the memes

[forest raven]

[toxic yacht]

EsCree

[vestal mortar]

Welp

[toxic yacht]

NA ult from whoru

nice target selection

that was the worst moment he could have sworded

[clever wagon]

Fuck old 2cp

LH would've gotten that a few times over otherwise

[vestal mortar]

Oh yeah I forgot this is old 2CP :C

[toxic yacht]

nice gamemode

lol

[clever wagon]

TIME TO WRITE A LETTER TO BLIZZ

[toxic yacht]

nice

[clever wagon]

"PLS REMOVE OLD 2CP FROM TOURNAMENT REALM, MY BOYS LH COULD'VE WON THAT EASY IF NOT FOR OLD 2CP"

[toxic yacht]

👍

[forest raven]

6:30 down to 23s

[vestal mortar]

I cri everytim

😭

[toxic yacht]

delet this

[forest raven]

ESCA WITH THE NA JUMP

[clever wagon]

Haksal Mei didn't even do ANYTHING OTHER THAN ICE BLOCK/WALL STALLING

Goddamn

That's bullshit

[gritty crow]

When do they start using the next patch?

[vestal mortar]

No idea

[forest raven]

I think sometime after tonight and sometime before the next set of games

I think

[gritty crow]

Alright thanks

[vestal mortar]

Banana boost

[toxic yacht]

the way haksal dodged that primal rage

[forest raven]

Into the ulthole

[toxic yacht]

[forest raven]

With the banana boost

[toxic yacht]

NA hook

lol, runaway stocking up ults

[forest raven]

Haksal so good

[toxic yacht]

nice useless dragonblade

I get that this is your last real shot

but c'mon, you're throwing away your snowball

look at LH ults

[forest raven]

Esca dying again

[clever wagon]

MIRO CLUTCH SHIELD DOME

[balmy wolf]

Runaway is putting up quite the fight

[clever wagon]

Holy fuck

[balmy wolf]

I wonder if they'll replace Esca after this tournament

[forest raven]

Kiting that dragonblade 👌

[toxic yacht]

I wonder why people nanoblade when they know that soundbarrier is up 🤔

[vestal mortar]

Well they might just bench him and get another hitscan dps, they are probably looking to expand their roster again after dean and leetaejun

[clever wagon]

YES

YES

YES

[toxic yacht]

haksal is kinda good

[forest raven]

Haksal was one slash from killing both Tobi and Esca

[balmy wolf]

Nice

[clever wagon]

yeyweyeywseGAWYWEDGAWIYDBAWOIUJDLN

YES

[forest raven]

And then Esca hit the shot

[clever wagon]

YESSSSS

[balmy wolf]

They couldn't really get a solid push together after that

[gritty crow]

Haksal’s dragonblades have been really underwhelming today

[clever wagon]

FUCK YES

SUCK ON THAT HASKAL

NO BULLSHIT MEI STALL

[vestal mortar]

[clever wagon]

FAP HARD

[balmy wolf]

I get it

[gritty crow]

What's that song called

The I Get It one

[balmy wolf]

No idea but Runaway is crushing so far

[gritty crow]

yeah stitch was going off on that first point

[balmy wolf]

That shatter whiff...

[forest raven]

Miro vs. Kaiser on Rein

[balmy wolf]

They finally won a fight

[gritty crow]

Not a very clean win either

[toxic yacht]

runaway is super good on payload

[balmy wolf]

Runner just stood up like they won the finals lol

[forest raven]

[gritty crow]

They took way longer than they should have to finish that

Not looking good for LH

[forest raven]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[gritty crow]

Jesus christ

[forest raven]

OH MY GOD

LUNATIC-HAI

OH MY GOD

HOW DID THEY

[balmy wolf]

Such choke from Runaway

[gritty crow]

What in the h*ck

[clever wagon]

HAH

[balmy wolf]

They have 2 members up and they still let them finish in the end

[forest raven]

RUNAWAY THREW SO HARD

[vestal mortar]

oh my gosh!

[forest raven]

THEY HAD SO MUCH SPACE LEFT AND THEY NEVER REGROUPED

[gritty crow]

I’m tilted

[forest raven]

Miro earthshattered nothing again 🤔

[balmy wolf]

Don't choke again Runaway

[forest raven]

Miro shattering nothing again

[gritty crow]

Let's go Runaway, let's go 👏 👏

[balmy wolf]

Run away with the victory :D

[forest raven]

LET'S GO CHAMP

[vestal mortar]

Haha

[gritty crow]

Now let’s watch them choke

[balmy wolf]

Don't jinx it

Nice

[forest raven]

YEAH BOI

[gritty crow]

Nice

[forest raven]

[vestal mortar]

Map 5! Aww yus!

[balmy wolf]

Gankyou are you still okay?

[forest raven]

If RunAway beats LH...

Aww yiss

Numbani worries me though

LH is good on Numbani

[balmy wolf]

We'll see

[gritty crow]

I get it

[clever wagon]

No I'm not

Uncleswagg is Runaway and none of the toxic Esca bully chats are deleted

[balmy wolf]

It's okay though

Runaway is running Torb

LH should be safe

[gritty crow]

My Internet went down what's happening

[balmy wolf]

When Ana can 1v1 Soldier

Then again it's the best Ana

[forest raven]

This whole series has been one big

[balmy wolf]

Runaway is holding LH on Numbani first point with Torb

[gritty crow]

It's back and damn

[forest raven]

About to full hold

But LH has nanoblade

WHORU DIES FIRST

OH MY GOD

[balmy wolf]

WHERE R U?

[forest raven]

RUNAWAY FULL HELD ON NUMBANI

LET'S GO CHAMP

[clever wagon]

LH is on full tilt

I can feel it

[gritty crow]

Holy heck

[clever wagon]

Why didn't they run dive like usual

[weary fossil]

watching other people play ov is actually quite fun compared to some other fps games...

[clever wagon]

Ofc turtling in will just get ganged from all sides

[balmy wolf]

That's what I was wondering too

They have the best Winston

[forest raven]

Miro's Rein is just worse than

[clever wagon]

I really want to call Uncleswagg out

But I'll just get deleted and banned right away anyway

[toxic yacht]

call him out on what, lul?

[forest raven]

LET'S GO CHAMP

[gritty crow]

YEH BOI

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[clever wagon]

I'll admit they deserve it

[forest raven]

LOL RUNNER

[vestal mortar]

LMAO

[balmy wolf]

Amazing

[clever wagon]

Esca toxic chats

[balmy wolf]

Oh man

Let's see the rematch of nV and LH

[rapid oxide]

Twitch chat is toxic towards esca

But he's ok imo

What uncleswagg did?

2b

[balmy wolf]

What kind of things were said?

[clever wagon]

None of them got deleted and some guy defending EscA saying "twitch chat is sheep retards for saying EscA is shit just because casters did" got deleted instantly

[toxic yacht]

lol

[clever wagon]

Then Danielsdw said "WILL ESCA SUCK DICK ON MEI TOO" on LH numbani defense stayed

And chat wasnt even that fast at the moment

[toxic yacht]

esca isn't even that bad

people are just kinda overshitting on him

[rapid oxide]

Esca is a really good player tho

[toxic yacht]

Tajun's reasoning for Esca's performance

"After the match Tajun said that Esca did not play as bad as people would think. Compared to APEX season 1 Esca switched into a more passive role because he no longer has to carry his whole team, thus making him look like he was almost non-existent as a DPS. One of LH's avid fans did comment that Esca was never the carry role, but rather a support DPS who would be very stable in his Damage. As proof, his ult charge as McCree and Soldier would be the fastest in LH although he may not get decisive kills, which is the role of WhoRU. Another fan commented that Esca is more committed to protecting Ryujehong who constantly heals WhoRU who is at the forefront when initiating fights, which would explain the reason for his passiveness. Tajun did admit though that there was times when Esca did make major mistakes, like the failed Soldier 76 flank on King's row against Misfits or dying often on Tracer. But overall, he stated that Esca was successfully doing his job thus didn't want people to criticize him."

[clever wagon]

Some guy mentioned the short version in the chat on R66

[toxic yacht]

Like, apart from Esca's widow and somewhat his tracer, most of the hate feels like bandwagoning

feelsbad

[vestal mortar]

Yeah I am not a big fan of the constantly picking on Esca.

[clever wagon]

That's what Twitch chat was ffs

And not a single one was deleted

Not. A. Single. One.

Not even the one I mentioned.

[forest raven]

I mean Esca was hitting a lot of shots even on Widow

[balmy wolf]

No reason putting energy in getting mad over that imo

[clever wagon]

Still reason enough for me to question moderation

Lost respect

[forest raven]

[balmy wolf]

so send him a DM on Twitter or something

[toxic yacht]

he probably found it funny

[clever wagon]

Well, he did say he's RunAway

But well

I'll DM him on twitter some time

Though I might as well fight a losing battle because of no actual ss or proof

[vestal mortar]

Was it for sure UncleSwagg? there are a bunch of other mods in chat

[clever wagon]

Point is, none of them got deleted

None.

And the chat defending EscA I said above got deleted in 3 seconds

Only another guy and I questioned the deletion without any response lul

But well, let's move on

NV vs Uncia now

[forest raven]

I expect an Uncia win

[gritty crow]

I hope it's not a 3-0

[clever wagon]

If Uncia didn't play like they did with Runaway they have a huge chance

The normal Uncia is miles better than current NV imo

Then again, it's probably Runner's calls

I'll admit it brought LH to tilt

Pretty obvious since R66

Ah, DNCE recognizes their weakness

Good mentality

[vestal mortar]

Also Uncia have fab uniforms

[clever wagon]

DNCE was rather humble compared to the others lol

Wasn't actually shittalk than it was just calling out NV's obvious weak point

My nick is here to stay

"Unlucky, unlucky" as Harb says

[rapid oxide]

TIME TO WATCH MY BOI TAIMOU INSULT HIS TEAM MATES

[forest raven]

TIME TO WATCH MY BOI TAIMOU SHOOT TURRETS FOR TWO MINUTES

[gritty crow]

I never noticed before but Cocco is kinda hot tbh

[clever wagon]

Stitch a qt

[vestal mortar]

Ryujehong is hawt

[rapid oxide]

Cocco :]

Omg plats gameplay

[gritty crow]

Taimou looks tilted

Than again he always look tilted

[clever wagon]

Right, EscA shotcalls LH too doesn't he?

Like Jake

Shotcalling DPS

[forest raven]

Well he was up the back during their match against RunAway

[clever wagon]

Sigh

[gritty crow]

Boostio

[clever wagon]

Man thinking casters started it all too over all maps makes me exhausted

I could've taken LH defeat better without the fucking toxicity

[gritty crow]

I hate it when it goes from a friendly rivalry kinda thing into toxic shit :/

[clever wagon]

@toxic yacht can you link me the post with Taejun's statement

[forest raven]

Wow

Panker shattered like four of them and got no kills

[stark thicket]

Poor Mickie.. he just isn't doing much at all this season

[forest raven]

[vestal mortar]

@clever wagon https://redd.it/5w2d9a

[clever wagon]

Thanks

Mickie Taimou duo might just work

Bodyguard Taimou with DM while Taimou does the work

HarryHook Zarya helped there

[forest raven]

THey completed the map

[gritty crow]

I like seeing Harry on the Zarya

[forest raven]

HARRY ON LUCIO

OH HE SWITCHED THANK GOD

[clever wagon]

Harry just went all Ster lul

[vestal mortar]

heh

[clever wagon]

NO LUCIO

[gritty crow]

They're doing better than i thought they would with this comp

[clever wagon]

Really starting to think ZP and Hex are better casters

[forest raven]

I was watching old matches last night

[clever wagon]

As a non- American I can't always keep up with the banter anyways

[forest raven]

And JKap and Uber > Everyone

The hype they generate while still following the game is amazing

[clever wagon]

Which tourney

[forest raven]

Atlantic Showdown and APAC

[clever wagon]

Ah

Probably gonna move over to Demdy a.k.a. Demolition D+ a.k.a. DouchebagChocolat weeb stream/vod

[balmy wolf]

What's he streaming?

[clever wagon]

Not OW btw

Weeb and memer, mostly JRPGs

I was just saying that in a passing by manner

[vestal mortar]

Quad tank FeelsBad

[toxic yacht]

He should make videos again :/

[pine star]

How's the NV match going?

[gritty crow]

1-1 atm

[pine star]

How'd LH vs Runaway go?

[forest raven]

3-2 RunAway @pine star

[pine star]

...

What?

[forest raven]

People shit on Esca a lot

But it was Kaiser v Miro that won RunAway the series

[pine star]

Wait wait wait wait wait wait

WHAT?

[forest raven]

RunAway won LUL

[pine star]

Oh boy here we fucking go

[forest raven]

Honestly Kaiser got shatter so much more than Miro did

And Miro threw his shatters into shields a whole lot more than Kaiser did

LET'S GO CHAMP

[clever wagon]

@pine star You're lucky you're not there listening to casters and chat bandwagoning the EscA shitting live

[pine star]

What happened to Esca?

[forest raven]

Everyone was shitting on Esca basically the entire series

Yes he fucked up a few times

But not to the degree Twitch chat and even the casters were saying

imo Miro was the weak link in that series

[gritty crow]

I hate Twitch chat, it's nothing but memes and toxcity

[pine star]

Hope people don't go full Tajun on Esca

[forest raven]

Miro got outplayed when he was playing Rein so many times

[clever wagon]

@gritty crow Good for you, I exactly did the mistake of thinking otherwise today

[balmy wolf]

Alright

[vestal mortar]

Even when Esca was doing okay on the Widow, Monte was too harsh imo. But I understand Monte is like this sometimes.

[forest raven]

Monte is

Polarising

[vestal mortar]

I don't think I heard Monte mentioning Miro being outplayed during the whole series.

[forest raven]

Yeah lol

Miro shattered so many shields

[edgy remnant]

esca's NA ults

[forest raven]

Miro had some NA ults

[vestal mortar]

Yeah, which is why he isn't my favourite caster but I often enjoy some of his analysis after matches.

[forest raven]

Honestly Uber and JKap are unrivaled

[vestal mortar]

I have a soft spot for ZP personally but I really enjoy Uber and JKap

[edgy remnant]

Wish they had more analysis casters or had the tendency to talk about strategy more

They sometimes go like "____ player made ____ pick which is strange?" or something like that, and I'm just like "why"

[forest raven]

There isn't enough downtime

And when there is downtime APEX just has shots of the players

[toxic yacht]

also, casters don't understand the game nearly as much yet

[gritty crow]

Yeah, they'll get better as time goes on but more down time would help a lot

[edgy remnant]

They should get some pro players to help cast lol

[toxic yacht]

in-match analysis is still very... primitive

during the world cup

they got reinforce to analyse

[edgy remnant]

yah

[toxic yacht]

InternetHulk was also an analyst during the EU playoffs of the OW Open

[balmy wolf]

Roadhog balanced

[edgy remnant]

I like how large Roadhog's head is

[pine star]

RIP NV?

[vestal mortar]

Seagull said he's gotten offers to cast but he's turned them down because he doesn't think he could do it but he'd go on the analysis desk if he was offered.

[forest raven]

Seag would be a great analyst

[toxic yacht]

I hope he gets to the analyst desk at some point

his analysis of his comp matches

are 100000x more useful than most analysts in this game

[forest raven]

Yeah

[toxic yacht]

you know, all this esca shitting kinda reminds me of reinforce

back at ESL, the casters kept shitting on reinforce

because of his agression

[forest raven]

Taimou got fucked

Time for Tiltmou

[pine star]

That's a problem with Taimou

If he makes a mistake, he gets tilted

If he gets tilted, he makes more mistakes

[forest raven]

And then the team gets tilted

[gritty crow]

BUt hey at least he has...good aim

[forest raven]

I want Talespin on a new team already damnit

[pine star]

Talespin still has it

[gritty crow]

I’ll be surprised if EnVyUs wins this

[vestal mortar]

Yeah Sojum it really reminded me of that too

[balmy wolf]

Mickie no

[gritty crow]

Consider me surprised

[balmy wolf]

Don't celebrate prematurely

[forest raven]

It's 1am already

Somebody win damnit

[gritty crow]

^

[toxic yacht]

lul

one more game

you can do it draw

draw

[forest raven]

Well at least these two games have been close

[toxic yacht]

inb4 it's a draw

[gritty crow]

I was really hoping they'd be done by now

[forest raven]

pls

I guess I can't whine when I've been bitching about stomps all tourney

[jovial eagle]

Seagull: Junkrat on offense on last push is legitimate, don't let anyone else tell you otherwise

[weary fossil]

did someone clip that genji going around the building on eichenwalde on the stream?

[jovial eagle]

[weary fossil]

i have 0 hours on genji but i would like to see it again 😄

or il just have to wait until the stream is on demand i guess

[forest raven]

TAIMOU

[toxic yacht]

that pulsebomb hurt

[forest raven]

All this time and he still can't play Tracer

[toxic yacht]

tilt widow?

or tilt cree

tilt cree it is

[gritty crow]

Better option of the 2

[forest raven]

Harry can actually play Zarya

[gritty crow]

Micke died really fast

[balmy wolf]

They lost when they had 5 ults

Reminds me of comp

[forest raven]

Tiltmou

[toxic yacht]

taimou got a kill

nice dragon, lol

wtf was that chips positioning?

[balmy wolf]

nV nooooo

[toxic yacht]

[forest raven]

CHIPS

[toxic yacht]

nice dragon, lmao

taimou throw

[balmy wolf]

He was probably trying to zone them

[forest raven]

TILTMOU

[balmy wolf]

I've heard Seagull about that before

[toxic yacht]

Envy

:(

[forest raven]

[toxic yacht]

ENVY

YUSSS

[balmy wolf]

Oh thank god

[toxic yacht]

jfc

taimou with the hanzo throws

[forest raven]

AND THE GAME CONTINUES

[balmy wolf]

WHAT WAS THAT BOOST??

[toxic yacht]

nice taimou!

[forest raven]

DO IT YOU FUCKS

[balmy wolf]

No ults

[toxic yacht]

envyus

[forest raven]

R E K T

[balmy wolf]

gg

[toxic yacht]

@balmy wolf you happy now?

[silk linden]

what are we watching?

[forest raven]

Time to watch Uncia get 3-0'd by Lunatic-Hai