esports-discussion

[toxic yacht]

Percent aren't linear like that

[balmy wolf]

what is most sad is that have 150 upvotes

[jovial eagle]

hehehe

[balmy wolf]

fucking bronze

I saw that too

He has to be baiting

[jovial eagle]

35% reduction means 65% dmg

[balmy wolf]

Also I just noticed Ana didn't get nerfed

What the actual fuck

[jovial eagle]

discord multiplies 1.3

so really itTbecomes 84.5%

[onyx hull]

wait did they remove the nade nerf?

LOL

[jovial eagle]

don't think so

[solid spear]

What nerf?

[jovial eagle]

4 second healing boost

50% healing added

[solid spear]

It's still 4 seconds

[onyx hull]

maybe it was from a earlier patch?

[solid spear]

That was the D.Va nerf patch

[onyx hull]

k

[toxic yacht]

Don't forget that now healing bastion is also super effective

He gets hp at normal speed

But takes much longer to lose it

[solid spear]

Resistance is really bad for the game

[toxic yacht]

Like, which idiot thought that this is balanced?

[solid spear]

Pocketing is easier cuz you're healing more effective health and then he doesn't even feed

Cuz you get less ult charge off him

[toxic yacht]

Yup, he doesn't feed anymore

[solid spear]

Well Carbon series is soon

Well see what happens lol

[toxic yacht]

Btw Miuki, that post

Is why /r/OW shouldn't eSport

lol

[onyx hull]

isn't carbon on tournament servers?

[toxic yacht]

Nope

[vestal mortar]

nupe

[balmy wolf]

That's gonna be a mess lol

[onyx hull]

eh i don't think anyone will pull a bastion that early

[balmy wolf]

It's bo5 so I can definitely see it happening

but not long for long probably

[solid spear]

In the end they're trying to win

If they view Bastion as a way to do that they will

I'm sure they've gotten some practice on PTR

[balmy wolf]

If they are complaining about him being too god yeah

Too god

@toxic yacht yeah... And i want more eSport and serious discussion... Better not at this point if the post are like the previous one

[toxic yacht]

The comments there are just... Ugh. Especially OP, he's such a fucking idiotic smug twat who has zero idea of what he's talking about, lol

I like eSports and all, but if such people are gonna be talking about it, I'd rather not have it

[balmy wolf]

Im pretty sure exist a circlejerk of shitty bronze thag up vote each other

So far comment are negative

[onyx hull]

"just be coordinated" is the answer to 99% of every problem ever but soloq is still a thing

[solid spear]

"Nothing can be more centric than Genji meta was."

[balmy wolf]

No shit fucking /r/ow retards

[solid spear]

Pre patch Genji isn't anywhere close to the strongest thing this game has seen

[balmy wolf]

Beta Genji was pretty fucked

[solid spear]

I'm pretty sure they're talking about the summer

Most of us weren't playing when he had 20% more damage

[balmy wolf]

He had like 32 damage per shuriken, triple jump, killing combo, 8s ult

FUCK GUYS, i forgot to check comp

Did they change tiers?

[solid spear]

Idts

[balmy wolf]

Can someone check comp info pls :3

Change the tiers?

[jovial eagle]

nope

[balmy wolf]

You now, when you right click on comp tab ingame

Oh ok, ty :p

Why would you think that?

Just wondering of they did smth weird :p

It would be in the patch notes

That's true

But iirc they still have to do a blogpost

Explain if they hard reset and some changes

They wont do a hard reset

I dont know what other changes they could make

🤷

[toxic yacht]

"Genji meta"

Can these fucking idiots

Please stop

Omg

There was never

Fucking never

A genji meta since launch

"Genji meta" was ranked bullshit

[pine star]

"Respawn DelayWhen attackers outnumber defenders while taking a control point on Assault, Escort and Assault/Escort maps, the defenders’ respawn time will slowly increase until it hits a maximum value or the defense manages to gain the upper hand."

WHAT IS THAAAAAAAAAT

[toxic yacht]

He always had a healthy pickrate in eSports

[solid spear]

Genji was usually C Tier in pro play

[toxic yacht]

Yup, lol

[solid spear]

Which isn't THAT much different from now

[balmy wolf]

people dont realize that tho

[toxic yacht]

And half the playtime could be attributed to TviQ and Kyb, probably

[balmy wolf]

they just see a good blade and instantly think he runs the game

[solid spear]

There was never a meta post launch that revolved around Genji

[balmy wolf]

the bronze idiots in this community that speak like they know anything are the worst ive ever seen

idk how you can speak about metas and who's strong when you haven't even grasped the basics of the game at a soloq level, LUL

[solid spear]

I wish I was good at this game ugh I need to get better lol

[toxic yacht]

Lol, same here

[solid spear]

I wanna eventually be up there

Like Toy lol

[toxic yacht]

But from what I gathered, Genji centric teams were a thing at rank 60-70 or some bullshit

[balmy wolf]

just play alot 😄

[solid spear]

I do

[balmy wolf]

you'll get there then

[onyx hull]

wish i had money for coaching

[balmy wolf]

you seem like a smart player

[toxic yacht]

I don't know, I never played up there

[solid spear]

I feel like I have the game sense but still low diamond

It's mechanical stuff really

[balmy wolf]

Im not really a coach but if someone sends me vods i do help them out

[onyx hull]

noted 😃

[balmy wolf]

Are you like Top 500 toy?

[toxic yacht]

Toy?

Yee

He's top 100 or some shit iirc

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

According to MasterOverwatch #144

[balmy wolf]

i ended 87

but leaderboards are broken so 🤷

[onyx hull]

yeah didn't see lots of top500 in the end idk why

[balmy wolf]

a lot of people that were like top 100 or top 150 just decided to stop playing on that account to get their spot

instead of tilting out of top 500 on the last day hahah

[toxic yacht]

ah, so they just pulled an evermore

lol

[balmy wolf]

yeah

i did too tho, I didnt play on my main the last two days

I wonder if he can get to 5000 this season again

but more people know the trick now

he might, probably will tbh might take longer this time

Has there been any info on how S4 placements will work btw?

I don't wanna start off in gold again

[toxic yacht]

pretty sure that it will be like s3 without the boosts

[balmy wolf]

You mean winstreak boosts?

[toxic yacht]

the thing that caused s2 diamonds to be gm

where they'd get a major boost after placements

They didn't change anything significant, I think

Or they'd have said so

[balmy wolf]

That's pretty vague lol

Your rank will be about the same as your previous final rank then?

usually yeah

give or take

I'm fine with that

That's what it should've been at the beginning of S3

seems like the biggest difference you'll get is like ~100 sr

[toxic yacht]

yeah, probably

placements don't really mean shit anyway

and are completely unnecessary unless you are new

or they change something significant

[balmy wolf]

pretty much yeah

ill keep track of my wins/losses/draws and let you guys know what I get placed at

Cool

[solid spear]

I hope I at least get master this season

[balmy wolf]

How close were you last season?

I really wanna hit 4700 this season so im gonna full tryhard

[solid spear]

Not very

I sat in 3-3.2k most of the second half of the season

but Ill try and get better

[balmy wolf]

If you get placed higher you'll have a shot

Toy, aren't you almost at a pro level then?

My next step is GM

Since the new season's is almost here, I'm gonna wish you all good luck :3

[limber pine]

GL HF

[balmy wolf]

IT'S HERE

Nonono, wrong! The correct sentence is "gg ez"

🎆

[solid spear]

Im gonna wait a couple days but hoping for the best

good luck to you all

[balmy wolf]

Gonna start tomorrow

I'll wait too

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20580588 no more Evermore cheese

Though I'm surprised they're pushing diamonds too

[toxic yacht]

ah, finally some changes

brb reading

7 games per week

jfc

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

So much pressure

[solid spear]

man

gotta play a lot then

[balmy wolf]

Also looks like they're scaling SR

"we're making it a little more difficult to hit the lowest and highest possible ratings: 0 and 5000"

[onyx hull]

i don't like the spray thing much, leaderboards are bs

[toxic yacht]

also not a big fan of the spray changes, but I'm not even close to top 500, so who am I to complain?

[balmy wolf]

I'll probably never reach top 500 in my life so it's w/e for me

[onyx hull]

same but i like to shitpost 😇

[balmy wolf]

7 games a week

To not decay

[onyx hull]

ster doing placements with bastion

[jovial eagle]

I actually thought you had to play one game a day before

I was wrong

my man Ayer

ster

seagulls live

[onyx hull]

so many people live

want to see them bump into eachother

kolorbastion

[balmy wolf]

I'm watching Seagull

with Bastion

[supple nymph]

NRG team placements: https://www.twitch.tv/a_seagull

[toxic yacht]

nice

This is even better than meme dream team

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/C9Jack/status/836689197884833793

Bishop's coming to the States

[toxic yacht]

yee, I heard it

Bishop helped them so goddamn much

[forest raven]

Get so hype

[toxic yacht]

in such a short time

this is gonna be amazing

[balmy wolf]

10000 viewers within 9 minutes

[toxic yacht]

also, morning draw!

[forest raven]

Howdy

[balmy wolf]

Yo

[forest raven]

I am excited for the next few months

[toxic yacht]

c9 has had so much potential since the roster changes

purely skill wise

[forest raven]

Yeah

[toxic yacht]

good to see them finally do something about it

[balmy wolf]

Good guy Seagull playing the hero everyone wants to see

[forest raven]

You can see just how much raw mechanical skill they have because they've had Bishop for less than 10 days and are only slightly worse than a top 4 KR team

[balmy wolf]

This NRG 6 stack

[forest raven]

Seagull-iddqd-Harbleu

[onyx hull]

brutal

[toxic yacht]

kephrii on the other team again

[forest raven]

Kephrii salt 🤔

[toxic yacht]

first he runs into the meme dream team

now into fucking NRG

[forest raven]

[balmy wolf]

"Its almost like you tell them somethings wrong on PTR and they don't listen." -Ajax, 2017

[toxic yacht]

lol

[onyx hull]

kephrii getting bullied

[toxic yacht]

Ajax salt

mfw seagull finally has golds

[balmy wolf]

IMT is 6 stacking placements too

Apparently

They'll probably run into each other right?

If IMT tries to snipe them

At some point today yeah

Probably

[forest raven]

Harb's on NRG FeelsGreatMan

[balmy wolf]

Official?

[vestal mortar]

IMT are playing in Carbon today too

[forest raven]

Not officially yet

[toxic yacht]

kephrii again

[vestal mortar]

Haha

[forest raven]

But he's been doing placements with NRG and Ajax

[toxic yacht]

I remember when seagull soloQ'd into an IMT 4 stack

[onyx hull]

hey gale

[forest raven]

And he just said he was tired because he had been scrimming playing Overwatch earlier

[balmy wolf]

Probably still trying out

[toxic yacht]

I hope that IMT snipes NRG

[balmy wolf]

first game was a draw on hanamura against bird and gale

funniest game of my life

[onyx hull]

how's the rez timing working out

[vestal mortar]

Kephrii on Rein

[toxic yacht]

"nice reinforce play"

[balmy wolf]

both teams had mercy

[toxic yacht]

LMAO

oh, you already did your first game

drawnamura, obviously, :/

[onyx hull]

lol kephrii

[balmy wolf]

This is so stupid lol

[toxic yacht]

@balmy wolf gale and bird are in seagull's game rn

[balmy wolf]

Who are they?

yeah i couldnt queue again cause scrims soon

[toxic yacht]

oh, scrims? which team?

[balmy wolf]

i cant really say xd

[toxic yacht]

@balmy wolf buncha super good players I only know for a week, lul. don't know much about them

inb4 you're in NRG

[jovial eagle]

harb is still not confirmed eh

[balmy wolf]

No

[jovial eagle]

lol

what if he becomes like a mercenary for hire for teams

whoever gives him the best price gets him for however many games

[toxic yacht]

man, I hope that all placements get uploaded to Seag's channel

this is hilarious

[onyx hull]

carbon coming up in 30min

[forest raven]

Guessing you guys saw the changes to respawns

[toxic yacht]

yup

[balmy wolf]

because of the changes to spawns, in my 2cp game both teams capped if they won a fight

As it should be

[toxic yacht]

this was my exact fear about making 2cp more offense oriented

now it's basically a waste of time, lul

just shows that 2cp is fundamentally flawed

[balmy wolf]

Not a very competitive mode indeed

like if you lose people early and die staggered

you pretty much lose instantly

[toxic yacht]

well, at least it's a bunch of quick offenses now?

[onyx hull]

is mercy a must pick for 2cp now

[balmy wolf]

yes

[onyx hull]

ha

[toxic yacht]

more fun that throwing bodies at the point and getting a draw

[solid spear]

Harb daddy confirmed hes beens scrimming with NRG

[toxic yacht]

still a waste of time though

[balmy wolf]

We knew that already Oreofe

[solid spear]

oh

my bad

lol

thought it was just speculation

[balmy wolf]

Right?

That one Bastion thread just devolved into something terrible

[onyx hull]

i feel bad for gale and co

trying to dodge ngr

[proven musk]

The entire NRG team is streaming their placement matches right now

[balmy wolf]

Yeah we know

We were just talking about it

[proven musk]

funny watching everyone queue dodge these guys

[supple nymph]

poor solo qer

[proven musk]

Timthetatman is scared to death to match these guys

[onyx hull]

reverse stream sniping lol

[balmy wolf]

Its just called dodging

[vestal mortar]

I'd be scared too

[balmy wolf]

What am I even watching?

[forest raven]

A full roster playing ranked

C9 did their season 3 placements together, they won with Surefour running Torb 90% of the time

[wanton bronze]

Best bastion play

"slid off"

[forest raven]

lmao

[gentle shuttle]

which team does Ajax come from

and is he gonna be Enigma's replacement?

[balmy wolf]

Kungarna

He was going to be on TSM before they cut him

[forest raven]

He's a Lucio player

[gentle shuttle]

o snap, that's Connor's team

[balmy wolf]

They have been trialing an off tank and lucio player

[gentle shuttle]

thanks

if anyones watching Seagull's strim atm, are they at a team house

kinda sounds like it

[forest raven]

Considering iddqd's still in Sweden

I'd say no

[gentle shuttle]

coolios

[balmy wolf]

Seagull is at home

Pretty sure they all are

He just said he isn't home

I thought he said he was

[vestal mortar]

Also, they won't be doing a team house when they are all in NA. They'll have apartments and an office where they practice.

[balmy wolf]

And thats why he had a bad setup

How do you know? @vestal mortar

[vestal mortar]

Dummy has said it a bunch of times. I think it was in an interview too and Seagull has answered it on stream lots too.

[limber pine]

Week 2 | Day 2 matches of the Carbon Series live now!

TODAY'S MATCHES:
TeamLiquid vs compLexity Gaming
Immortals vs Hammers

Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/carbonentertainment or at http://carbon.gg/ocs.

[sour wraith]

yea i think it was in the post about iddqd joining nrg

[onyx hull]

kephrii on bastion now

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SparklingConfidentBaconPeanutButterJellyTime

[forest raven]

ROGUE

ROGUE V NRG

[balmy wolf]

Shadder's Liquid debut is now

[sour wraith]

Seagull and harb trolling the chat about being a team

as just a quese of Friends

[vestal mortar]

Yeah you were right SwankyTiger, it was in the iddqd post too http://i.imgur.com/aHBiT9t.png

[forest raven]

They're on west coast servers rip

iddqd has 180 ping lmao

[sour wraith]

also numlocked and issqd having 180 ping this game

[vestal mortar]

rip

[onyx hull]

hogue holy shit

[balmy wolf]

I didnt think they would lose any placements

I had no idea Rogue were 6 stacking placements either

[forest raven]

You'd expect the more practiced team that all has about 15 ping would win

[sour wraith]

lol seagull god bastion

[onyx hull]

so stupid

[balmy wolf]

Bastion's ult charges way too quick wtf

[vestal mortar]

Let's go!

[sour wraith]

and he doesnt even play hitscan

[forest raven]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

AKM

THE GOD BASTION

[forest raven]

aKm: skilled meta

[sour wraith]

so comp will be hell

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/TrustworthyTolerantHamsterSaltBae

[forest raven]

LOOOL

That's the new respawns in action

[supple nymph]

[balmy wolf]

Everyone's laughing now but this is the meta

[forest raven]

[onyx hull]

how much time till they fix it

1 week maybe

[supple nymph]

why even have ptr

if they are just gonna ignore any feedback

[balmy wolf]

NRG > Rogue confirmed

[forest raven]

lmao

[onyx hull]

rogue is diving too

big boy pants

[forest raven]

This match doesn't mean anything lol

[balmy wolf]

http://i.imgur.com/hz4bbxl.png

[forest raven]

aKm's running Sombra lmao

[balmy wolf]

This is a scrim

Next time we see Rogue, aKm will be Sombra

Daaang

Iddqd

[forest raven]

Two of NRG has 180 ping

[supple nymph]

seagull deleting people

[onyx hull]

what is happening my net is acting up

[balmy wolf]

TIME TO WATCH MY BOYS NRG STOMP ROGUES DIVE

[solid spear]

:^)

[forest raven]

Can't wait for them all to be in the one area

[balmy wolf]

aKm 76 now

[vestal mortar]

This is the best

[forest raven]

Now they're trying

[balmy wolf]

Harb's Hog

inb4 NiCO nanoblade wipe

tfw he wastes all of it

[forest raven]

idd just fuckin wrecks everyone on 180 ping

[vestal mortar]

Harb is such a good friend LUL

[balmy wolf]

Harb and Iddqd the new NRG carries?

[forest raven]

OMG

HARB AND THE NEW SCRAPGUN SPREAD

[balmy wolf]

LOL

KNOXXX SOLO ULTING DUMMY

[vestal mortar]

LUL

[balmy wolf]

They have no combos this push

Rogue is actually gonna get held

[onyx hull]

FINALLY

[balmy wolf]

LOLWHAT

[forest raven]

Rogue used visor, blade, beat

I think that was it

[balmy wolf]

If they run full dive from the start

[onyx hull]

bomb too

[balmy wolf]

they can win

Instead of running Sombra lul

[forest raven]

And idd and Numlocked have 180 ping

[balmy wolf]

I wanna watch Harb's POV

[forest raven]

https://www.twitch.tv/harbleu

[balmy wolf]

Wanna see him hook soon

[forest raven]

He doesn't need the hook LUL

[balmy wolf]

aKm Pharah

aKm Pharah beating Iddqd's 76

[onyx hull]

tbf rogue is tryharding

[forest raven]

180 ping

[onyx hull]

seagull switched

[balmy wolf]

LUL

NiCO Pumpkin Man

Their dive just doesn't work against Bastion lul

Shaffer playing and both teams running Bastion

[onyx hull]

what works against bastion and 5 other people

[supple nymph]

ana with nade to stop self heal, genji to deflect

tracer to bomb

hog to hook

dva to shield

[balmy wolf]

This multi twitch

[digital pond]

2 minutes in torunament is killing my brain cells

[balmy wolf]

NRG won

100%

[forest raven]

[balmy wolf]

This new spawn system fucks you if you all die once

[forest raven]

Their dps carry and Rein on 180 ping

[digital pond]

New spawn makes offense pretty advantageous

[onyx hull]

i was rooting for rogue 😦

[digital pond]

If they get a couple kills

[forest raven]

So Shadder's playing on like 200 ping for Liquid, isn't he

[vestal mortar]

FeelsAmazingMan

[balmy wolf]

Yeah something like that @forest raven

[forest raven]

rip

[spring lintel]

Okay did anyone play today?

Carbon

[forest raven]

https://www.twitch.tv/carbonentertainment

[digital pond]

IT's still going on

[forest raven]

First game of the day

coL vs. Team Liquid

[spring lintel]

Awesome!

They are playing on the new patch?

[forest raven]

Yep

[spring lintel]

AWESOME!

[balmy wolf]

Dude

If they keep Grego

Liquid will be a really strong team

[forest raven]

Also right now NRG 2.0 is doing their placements all together

[digital pond]

I'm trying hard to enjoy it. But Bastion gameplay is like ugh.

[forest raven]

I'm guessing Grego's a great igl?

[digital pond]

Is Ajax confirmed for NRG?

[balmy wolf]

Also, ID changed his name again

Some symbol infront now

lul

Yeah @forest raven

[digital pond]

They changed the Lobby thingy

That's why there's a symbol

Ƕ changes to Korean font but doesn't show up in your IGN

But custom rooms now show it as the square

[balmy wolf]

His name before was just ID

ID in a weird font

[digital pond]

It doesn't appear in game

The letter I listed only appears in your battle tag

while in game OW doesn't show it

It shows your name in the weird font

[balmy wolf]

Yeah but I mean it didnt show the square anywhere

[digital pond]

Yeah

It does in custom rooms now

When i joined custom lobbies in the PTR it showed my square for my IGN

I just mean it's not a name change

It's just there now

[onyx hull]

torktjo tried to bastion on kings row attack but switched

[digital pond]

Worked on defense it seems

[balmy wolf]

Well Liquid capped so

Not really

[forest raven]

Watching this six stack is so fun

[digital pond]

Liquid ran it on defense

Tork is on liquid iirc

[balmy wolf]

He is on coL

[digital pond]

Oh my bad

Well either way it worked of r a bit between point 1 and 2

Not sure how Liquid broke through

[forest raven]

Is Grego a better igl than Rapha?

[digital pond]

I got mind numbed

[balmy wolf]

I'm not 100% sure, but I dont think Rapha is their igl

[forest raven]

Also I can't wait for Numlocked and idd to be on 15 ping with the rest of the team

Well Rapha isn't on the roster anymore

[clever wagon]

Oh right

Shadder and grego in liquid

[forest raven]

He was their Lucio before Grego came on, though

[balmy wolf]

Wait he was?

what

[digital pond]

Happy shadder is playing again

[forest raven]

Yeah Rapha was TL's Lucio

[balmy wolf]

What in the fuck

[clever wagon]

Rapha is out from Liquid then?

[balmy wolf]

No he is just getting subbed

[clever wagon]

So >6 roster?

Or this is just temporary

[balmy wolf]

Just temp

[forest raven]

Harb gets so much energy every game now

[balmy wolf]

As in, Rapha is doing something

So they had to sub someone else in

ngl though I hope Grego stays

Because if Rapha is their Lucio, then I'd rather Grego over him

[spring lintel]

Lol that bastion

[balmy wolf]

That spawncamp

[spring lintel]

Shaddrr on genji 😍

[forest raven]

If Shadder didn't have 200 ping

[spring lintel]

Damn

[balmy wolf]

[spring lintel]

They need make some new tech already

[balmy wolf]

I think Shadder should have flanked with dragonblade instead of sticking with his team

@spring lintel what do you mean

[spring lintel]

Make something to make ping irrelvant

[balmy wolf]

lul good luck with that

[spring lintel]

Yeah maybe after 10 years

[supple nymph]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansible

[spring lintel]

Bastion's immobility is very bad

[supple nymph]

needs ball mode

[solid spear]

Liquid throw

[supple nymph]

are you watching seagull

this is fucking stupid

[forest raven]

LOL

[supple nymph]

he's bouncing on the thing

killing the whole team

[forest raven]

THIS IS FUCKIN AMAZING

[spring lintel]

What?

[supple nymph]

https://www.twitch.tv/a_seagull

[spring lintel]

LOL he is playing bastion

[supple nymph]

here's a clip of it https://clips.twitch.tv/BlushingYummyMosquitoShadyLulu

[forest raven]

"Congratulations to NRG for having the first autistic Overwatch team" -iddqd

[spring lintel]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SavoryZanyCamelAMPEnergyCherry

dude

the chat

http://i.imgur.com/1q8PLZ9.png

wtf

[forest raven]

lmao

They're getting rolled on Oasis

[spring lintel]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

dude

Harb is Hard carrying

Harb Carrying

[forest raven]

ikr

They beat SoOn, aKm and NiCO but can't beat randos 🤔

Ah, ranked

[balmy wolf]

Dang he broke 10m views this stream

[clever wagon]

Is he playing with the whole NRG rostrer

[balmy wolf]

Yes

[clever wagon]

Live?

[spring lintel]

Yeah

24k live viewers

[clever wagon]

Seagull why u have to make me pick

[forest raven]

I like how the dive of a rando 6 stack is beating NRG's Bastion set up but Rogue couldn't

[clever wagon]

my god

This saying is old, but NRG Harb confirmed then?

[balmy wolf]

Well koth is very different to 2cp @forest raven

[forest raven]

True

[supple nymph]

@clever wagon https://mobile.twitter.com/NRGgg/status/836660247578095616

[forest raven]

I imagine koth is more friendly to dive comps

[balmy wolf]

If they vs'd Rogue's Dive on Oasis they would probably lose

[supple nymph]

i just realized it says 'and friends'

hmmmm

[clever wagon]

They still being roundabout about it

Fuck

JUST COME OUT WITH IT ALREADY

[balmy wolf]

I have insider info

👀

[clever wagon]

NRG is stealing Carbon's audience

[spring lintel]

Everyone is

[supple nymph]

why would they do a tournament 2 hours after a major patch

[spring lintel]

Surefour is streaming too

[balmy wolf]

They're not gonna change the time

[clever wagon]

Blizz

[supple nymph]

and at the same time as placements

[balmy wolf]

The time was already set

[spring lintel]

LOL SHADDER IS LAGGING

[digital pond]

I don't think Blizzard communicated the new season time to them lol

[supple nymph]

1700 viewers on Carbon

[digital pond]

It picked up a bit

[balmy wolf]

Dude how did Liquid not cap

[digital pond]

Was lower at one point

[balmy wolf]

What even

[spring lintel]

1880

Now

[balmy wolf]

Also, I just watch Carbon and switch to Seagull in downtime @clever wagon

[clever wagon]

But but

[spring lintel]

Seagull got boring I switched

[forest raven]

I have a multitwitch of Harb and Seagull and Carbon on another tab

[digital pond]

Yeh I like Watching Harb and Gale

[balmy wolf]

NRG vs Rogue was the highpoint of the stream

[clever wagon]

Harb is so hype I love him

[digital pond]

And seeing both side

[clever wagon]

Right

[balmy wolf]

I was watching a multitwitch of all 6 @forest raven

[clever wagon]

It's time for KBMOD Seagull & Harb

[balmy wolf]

Out of sync though so I stopped

[forest raven]

rip

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uoyUO/836e080ffc.png

[balmy wolf]

👏🏻

[forest raven]

I think ID just threw for Liquid lol

[digital pond]

ID

Why

[clever wagon]

GJ Tweetch chat

[digital pond]

Holy fuck

[spring lintel]

Id just fucked them

Does he have 200+ ping or something

[balmy wolf]

Nope

[clever wagon]

Seagull just noticed the copypasta spam

Y'know

[jovial eagle]

how many placements have they done?

[clever wagon]

It would be funny if

[forest raven]

5

[jovial eagle]

oh

5 more to go

[clever wagon]

That copypasta made their way into Carbon chat

jk

[balmy wolf]

I wanna see Liquid with Shadder on low ping @forest raven

[forest raven]

Same

[balmy wolf]

[forest raven]

I want FaZe, Liquid and NRG all to have a team house for their players

[balmy wolf]

Full Dive inc

[clever wagon]

This random Tracer just 4k'd NRG

[spring lintel]

Faze will

[supple nymph]

literally shit on

[spring lintel]

They are rich af

[forest raven]

NRG has more money than FaZe

[clever wagon]

NRG has that Shaq moolah

[forest raven]

But they are getting a house ready for their OW roster

[balmy wolf]

NRG arent getting a house

[forest raven]

Apartments

[balmy wolf]

They're getting an office to play in

And live in apartments close by

Like Envy back at launch

[supple nymph]

live cams?

[spring lintel]

I like that better

[balmy wolf]

A team house is more convienent but more expensive

[spring lintel]

Yea

[jovial eagle]

I'm on data so icant watch twitch

[onyx hull]

did nrg lose once

[balmy wolf]

Nope

[forest raven]

Also apartments let them have more of their own privacy

[jovial eagle]

not yet?

[balmy wolf]

Not so far

[jovial eagle]

gg

seagulls bastion cheese is still working somehow

[digital pond]

I think that's what TSM is doing for league.

[balmy wolf]

NANOBLADE INC

[digital pond]

They live and have their own room but scrim at an office

In a different setting

[clever wagon]

Wait is the new client ver live yet?

[digital pond]

ya

[supple nymph]

yes...

[digital pond]

Been

[spring lintel]

OMG shadder that reflect

[digital pond]

Since season started

[balmy wolf]

Has been for hours @clever wagon

[clever wagon]

I last played like 10 hours ago

[digital pond]

Actually before

[balmy wolf]

It's been Live since 4 hours before season start

Either a draw or a loss for Liquid

[clever wagon]

So Ajax also confirmed or nah

[balmy wolf]

Here we go boys

[digital pond]

No one is really confirmed.

All we know is that it's "NRG and friends"

[clever wagon]

Still going roundabout

[digital pond]

They're beating the bush with a fire stick.

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SavoryFilthyClintYouWHY

That reflect

[jovial eagle]

some people just want to watch the world burn

[balmy wolf]

[spring lintel]

Yup it was insane

[supple nymph]

nrg vs rogue again

[balmy wolf]

Shit really?

[jovial eagle]

oh baby

[spring lintel]

Well shadder

[balmy wolf]

What are you talking about @supple nymph

[clever wagon]

mfw KBMOD multistream seagull + harb both source q

[spring lintel]

Reallly ford?

[supple nymph]

when I went back to the stream they were saying that in the chat

but I guess they are retarded

[spring lintel]

Wow

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uozFJ/c74ad5114b.png

[balmy wolf]

lul

[opaque owl]

@balmy wolf dummy wrote it in their team chat "nrg vs rogue"

idk the context tho

[balmy wolf]

Was that when they were in queue?

If so he was probably just referencing their earlier game

[opaque owl]

nah they were in a game

attack of this match

[spring lintel]

So many ads on seagulls stream

Unskippable with 20+ seconds

[balmy wolf]

not using an adblocker in 2017

[forest raven]

Adblock my dude

[balmy wolf]

[opaque owl]

i have it off

did not get adds

[spring lintel]

I like to give a couple of cents

[balmy wolf]

Thats because you're a seagull fangirl vic

[opaque owl]

[jovial eagle]

lul

[opaque owl]

you still get adds even if you're subbed

[balmy wolf]

Man ID needs to switch

[spring lintel]

Damn vic

What an asshole

[opaque owl]

what :v

[forest raven]

@balmy wolf Rapha's at GDC atm

That's why Grego's playing

[balmy wolf]

Whats that

[jovial eagle]

nvidia stuff

[forest raven]

Game Developers Conference

[balmy wolf]

Ah

[spring lintel]

What is this genji buff?

[jovial eagle]

?

[balmy wolf]

There is no Genji buff

[spring lintel]

There is a buff for his dash

/Tweak/fix

[balmy wolf]

What is it?

[solid spear]

Didnt see anything on Gengar

in the notes

[forest raven]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5wrd9o/genji_received_a_stealth_buff/

[spring lintel]

I will try it rn

As I am a genji main

It is a bit faster

Wow genji was buffed

It's alot faster actually

Omg he is so much better

You will only notice it after you engage

[solid spear]

damn youre right

[spring lintel]

Like so MUCH better

It makes his combos alot more fluid

[clever wagon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/WimpyPlausibleTurtleKappaPride

[jovial eagle]

any updates on the nrg and friends

[supple nymph]

seagull got placed 4.3

won 10/10

[jovial eagle]

lake

lawl

what about the others

[supple nymph]

no idea

[balmy wolf]

dummy placed 4091

[forest raven]

Harb got 4388

[balmy wolf]

Ajax 4072

Iddqd 4400

[jovial eagle]

sounds fun

[forest raven]

Numlocked somewhere in 4.1k

[balmy wolf]

Iddqd placed highest

[forest raven]

Hammers has 4mins on Hollywood attack running Bastion

[spring lintel]

Lol carbon is still going ?

[forest raven]

Yeah

coL won 3-0

Now it's IMT v Hammers

[balmy wolf]

Ster went 6-4 placed 4012

Seagull solo queuing now

Queued into Milo

awkward lul

[supple nymph]

still whoring bastion

[forest raven]

Hammers completed Hollywood with Bastion in just under 2 minutes lmao

[supple nymph]

they arent using a bastion now

they are playing the game wrong

[clever wagon]

With a coach

I'm hoping C9 can get better

Maybe make use of those talents for surprise plays or something

[forest raven]

C9 already improved immensely in their match against Uncia

And they're keeping Bishop when they go back to NA

[clever wagon]

It's pretty new for me though

NA team actually snatch-- Wait

Thorin's pretty much asked this question in Oversight

[forest raven]

What question

I haven't watched it fully yet

[clever wagon]

"How come NA managed to snatch a KR player", put simply

Indirectly answered

[forest raven]

Ah

[balmy wolf]

Apparently Stanky queued into Rogue 4 times in placements

[onyx hull]

is any rogue streaming rn

[balmy wolf]

No

None of them streamed their placements

[digital pond]

SoOn has streamed in a couple days either.

Was the most active one.

[spring lintel]

damn super is the best reinhardt I have seen in a tourney

[forest raven]

In a tourney with tier 1.5/2 NA teams, sure

[balmy wolf]

There's no doubt he's a good Reinhardt though

[forest raven]

Oh yeah, for sure

[balmy wolf]

Plays very aggressively

Like an NA Fragi

[forest raven]

I was gonna say Ryb, Re1nforce, Panker etc. are better than him

But then I realised they're the best Reins in the world

[balmy wolf]

Yeah lol

[forest raven]

So Hammers is showing they're the top of the new breed

[balmy wolf]

hammers is an interesting team

they show some real knowledge in their play, but tier 1 teams like rogue are just better

[digital pond]

Kresnik is def one of my fave NA Reins

[forest raven]

Hammers took a map off Rogue because they figured out quad tank could put a stop to their dive

They're just not at a high enough skill level to execute it against a team like Rogue

[clever wagon]

Hammers is probably one of the best tank-centered teams rn

[balmy wolf]

its true, but they are damn good at multiple dps too, I agree with what draw said tho

give them a good amount of time and I think they'll be able to hang a bit bettter

[forest raven]

Give them as much time as the players on Rogue, nV, Misfits etc. have had, they'll be fantastic

[balmy wolf]

I agree

[forest raven]

Also get them a coach

[balmy wolf]

I second this

[forest raven]

Every team needs a coach

Support staff in general

[digital pond]

Agreed.

It's so important.

[forest raven]

Teams just need to look at C9

[digital pond]

Jack put his money down

Grabbed a Korean man and said

"You iz mine"

[forest raven]

Good thing C9 is stacked

[digital pond]

I think it might be good for C9

If Mendo learns Genji

Better

[balmy wolf]

Well Mendo knows Genji

[forest raven]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mendo was primarily playing an off tank role against Uncia

[balmy wolf]

He just doesn't play it as well as Sure4 does

[forest raven]

Mendo's shields in that series were top notch

[digital pond]

Yeh that's why i said better

I think having surefour on hitscan is better

[forest raven]

Surefour's hitscan and dps in general is ridic

[digital pond]

I'm speaking in a case of playing a dive comp mainly.

[viral ledge]

yoo what's the meta rn btw

[balmy wolf]

Dive

[viral ledge]

shit

rein is fine for dive right

I wanna main him in s4

[balmy wolf]

aka Genji, Tracer, Winston, Lucio, Zen/Ana and D.Va

[viral ledge]

cancer but atleast not as cancer as triple tank

[balmy wolf]

Or for Rogue, replace D.Va with 76/McCree

imo Dive comp is not cancer at all

[viral ledge]

idk man

[balmy wolf]

Triple/Quad Tank was cancer because it was just waiting for ults

or a hook to initiate

[viral ledge]

I think any kinda stale meta is cancer but it doesn't really seem like this meta will be that stale

[balmy wolf]

With Dive its very fast paced and there's more versatile comps available

[viral ledge]

yeah it should be fine

[balmy wolf]

With Triple/Quad tank you always needed the same 3 tanks and an Ana

Very little room for change

[viral ledge]

tfw genji is in the meta again tho

[balmy wolf]

He's been in the same place since release tbh

[balmy wolf]

pretty much

besides 4 tanks hes always been in a spot where you can play him and its fine and if you dont its still fine

[digital pond]

Seflless bullying people again

Lmao

[forest raven]

rip

[digital pond]

https://www.twitch.tv/livethebattle

[forest raven]

They took Hammers' aggressive strat and dialed it up to 11

[toxic yacht]

GENJI GOT STEALTH BUFFED

AYYYY

I CAN'T WAIT TO FIRE UP OW

[balmy wolf]

lul

Its pretty good

[wanton bronze]

did he?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

[wanton bronze]

how?

[balmy wolf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/competitiveoverwatch/comments/5wrd9o

@Reb#2282

[wanton bronze]

ty

[spring lintel]

Dude genji's buff is INSANE

[balmy wolf]

is that why I was playing genji and was like "wtf this feels different what is going on"

[jovial eagle]

does this mean I'll finally become a pro genji?

[clever wagon]

Waoh what

no highlight in the main menu after playing?

[balmy wolf]

So is Bastion really as bad as expected? Or worse?

[clever wagon]

No idea

I probably placement in the weekends

As bad as the stigma of the game being filled with weekend casuals gets, no choice :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG8J1YT_iII Hammers' Jake

Looks like a really chill guy behind the aggressive, savage plays of the members of Hammers o.O

[forest raven]

👌

[clever wagon]

He fucking got to top 500 playing OW using bootcamp on a mac while abroad...

Holy shit

Heh

A lot of teams can learn from Hammers' boys' mentality

Fuck

He's really WAY more composed and have more weight behind his words than a lot of pros

Deep respect

[forest raven]

Jake's awesome

I'm a Hammers fanboy now

[clever wagon]

Same tbh

I'm really seeing them in an even more respectable light now

Like a team that's genuinely worth rooting for inside out

[toxic yacht]

placements are shit rn

people thinking they're pro bastions all over the place

had a guy with a 20% winrate go attack bastion

20% bastion winrate

[quartz wren]

bastion main btw

[clever wagon]

Figured as much

Which is why I never did placements like within the first week or even 3

[clever wagon]

Woaaaaahhhh

That Chinese speech caught me off guard

[forest raven]

ikr

[clever wagon]

This particular Overview episode is the first ever OW podcast/talkshow I watch past halfway mark

Mainly because of Jaaaake

Wait

What was that tweet again

About Rogue showing something something in NA

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/Hafficool/status/836065142982860800 @clever wagon

[clever wagon]

Ha!

[forest raven]

Read the responses

[clever wagon]

I saw it when there were only Flame and CP in the responses

[forest raven]

Unkoe's response is straight 🔥

[clever wagon]

Man

Ye just saw unkoe and knoxxx's

Respect for them for indirectly standing up against that shit

[drowsy arrow]

🔥

[balmy wolf]

Fnatic acting big when they've never won anything

[clever wagon]

Feh

Hammers or IMT could probably win over Fnatic

[forest raven]

Hammers would roll Fnatic

[clever wagon]

We don't even need Rogue for them

[drowsy arrow]

meta slaves xd

[forest raven]

Fnatic got invited to APEX because of their name

Same for C9, but then they got their thumbs out of their asses

[drowsy arrow]

highly recommend gosu gamers chrome extension btw

[opaque owl]

which one is unkoe

[drowsy arrow]

rogue support

[opaque owl]

no in the tweets

[forest raven]

First response

Benjamin Chevasson

[clever wagon]

It's in their twitter ID really

Or you can't see them for some reason

[opaque owl]

it wasn't the first response for me :v

[drowsy arrow]

hmmm

is on my mobile but not desktop

[toxic yacht]

It was low af for me on Mobile

[drowsy arrow]

🤔

[toxic yacht]

Had to scroll the whole way down

[forest raven]

Can't wait for Fnatic to get back to NA and not get passed quarters

[drowsy arrow]

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/Reinforce/status/836911812494839811

[opaque owl]

whaat

oh wait just role changes

[vestal mortar]

oooh

[edgy remnant]

interesting

[toxic yacht]

I'll place my bet on putting Nevix on dps

Nevix is similar to TviQ in the sense of that they can play fucking everything at a relatively high level. Misfits also won the OW Open and Dreamhack when he was dps, although it was a totally different team back then

Like, Nevix on support is a fucking waste of his dps skill imo

[unkempt mason]

But you're TviQ?????

[edgy remnant]

Yeah, I got messaged asking if you're the real TviQ again

[gentle shuttle]

just like Art1er @toxic yacht

[vestal mortar]

Hahaha

[edgy remnant]

I guess a "Verified" role would help for all 1 esports pro on this Discord

[toxic yacht]

Lmao, you got asked? This is amazing

[quartz wren]

is that the real tviq??

[toxic yacht]

Yee, give veineless and Kruise a verfied tag, I guess

[vestal mortar]

omg the real TviQ!

[toxic yacht]

Mendo is here too

Yes, it's the real tviq

[edgy remnant]

is that the real mendo

[toxic yacht]

Yep

[edgy remnant]

im too lazy to crosscheck

[gentle shuttle]

lololol.

[toxic yacht]

It is, can check on flame's server if you want

Real kruise, real mendo, real veineless

Not real kyb though

[opaque owl]

sojum is poor man's tviq

[gentle shuttle]

shhhh c:

[edgy remnant]

Yeah Kruise posts his videos here from time to time

[toxic yacht]

I'd love to be the poor man's tviq :/

[wanton bronze]

Am i the real Reb?

[opaque owl]

2282

real reb

[quartz wren]

fake reb

[toxic yacht]

Too bad I can't play Cree, Hanzo or for the matter, almost anything tviq plays

[wanton bronze]

Why do you know that vic