esports-discussion

[forest raven]

And if the Bastion meta comes...

Well glhf Rogue

[balmy wolf]

Thankfully all they're going to be doing is scrimming for the next few weeks

so hopefully they can figure this shit out

[forest raven]

Mhm, NiCO can get better on Zarya because Winz exists, thankfully

I'm the most worried about Knoxxx

Can he reliably play Rein?

[balmy wolf]

If they really want to stick with this setup of roles, then they need Knoxxx to expand his hero pool

So he can play more tanks than just Winston

He should get to learn Rein

[forest raven]

Most def

[balmy wolf]

and maybe some D.Va

NiCO should work on his Zarya and Roadhog

[clever wagon]

This fucking thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5we54d/does_anyone_have_any_footage_of_hammers_esports/

[balmy wolf]

He is already an amazing Genji, so that wont go away

[forest raven]

I've never seen SoOn play not Tracer

[balmy wolf]

Honestly, trying to figure out proper hero pools for these players is hard because theres only 1 tank player

[forest raven]

NiCO seems like the flex and SoOn and aKm are the more dedicated dps players

But again, never seen anything besides Tracer from SoOn

[balmy wolf]

But I think, NiCO should learn more Projectile DPS, KnoxXx learn more tanks and maybe get SoOn to be a better 76

If SoOn can get his 76 and possibly McCree to even somehow match aKm they can be interchangable

Like Sure4 and Mendo

[forest raven]

Yeah

But Surefour can play projectile as well

[balmy wolf]

Because afaik, aKm can play Tracer

Just not at SoOn's level

and SoOn can play 76 and McCree

just not at aKm's level

so thats another problem

why put SoOn on 76 and aKm on Tracer if the other player is better on that hero

[forest raven]

Yeah

I still don't know why Knoxxx went to tank and Winz went to support

[balmy wolf]

Basically their main objective over the next few weeks is expand hero pool

imo they should put KnoxXx on Lucio again

And get Winz on Off tank

so NiCO can focus on learning Projectile DPS

[forest raven]

I didn't see much of old Rogue, but Winz seemed like a really good offtank

But then who would play main tank

You'd have Winz, aKm, SoOn and NiCO

Which of those would be a reliable Rein player

[balmy wolf]

I have no idea

Winz seems like the best candidate

[forest raven]

Then you'd need NiCO to learn offtank

[balmy wolf]

Honestly, this team kind of seems fucked with no main tank

[forest raven]

rip Skipjack

[balmy wolf]

If only Skipjack was French

[forest raven]

Skipjacque

[balmy wolf]

was just about to say lol

[forest raven]

I feel like with the roster Rogue has built they fuck themselves if they pull Knoxxx off of tank and Winz off of Lucio at this point

[clever wagon]

Lul

[balmy wolf]

Maybe with this new meta coming up they wont need a rein

Who fucking knows

[forest raven]

If it's Bastion meta they'll need a Rein for sure

[remote talon]

lol

[balmy wolf]

Kudos to Hammers Esport that ATLEAST took 1 map

the only team actually doing it

so hammer is tier 1.5

Fusion Girl 3rd place on Gosu... 🤦

[toxic yacht]

Gosu rankings are

[balmy wolf]

mfw top "na" team are eu

[toxic yacht]

every EU team that goes to NA dominates

lol

looks at EnvyUs

[balmy wolf]

looks at rogue

wish blizzard be like "team that are full european go eu"

atleast we would split some team in eu too

and balance eu

but im pretty sure wont happen

[toxic yacht]

I mean, they still wouldn't have tournaments then

[balmy wolf]

fucking kaplan

he had to tell us about the esl tournie >_>

wish its only eu

even if there will be tier 3 idc

i want eu only

mfw mod wont put /r/competitiveoverwatch in the sidebar and limit shitpost/loweffort like every FUCKING gaming subreddit

[toxic yacht]

c9 best meme team
http://i.imgur.com/eYU9VPu.png

[balmy wolf]

[quartz wren]

C9's a meme team in dota as well

it's in their blood 👀

[balmy wolf]

in csgo too iirc

[digital pond]

And in League

Especially league

[balmy wolf]

just wondering

c9 did the initial tutorial?

did they skip after the soldier shooting phase?

[toxic yacht]

tutorial never taught you about objectives

[balmy wolf]

https://youtu.be/EzCoKx6NqfU?t=6m4s

[digital pond]

Those portrait icons

[balmy wolf]

i dislike the current one tbh

[digital pond]

The neon blue tilts me

I just hate restarting the entire portrait right now

I like the level 70-80 ones.

[balmy wolf]

portrait are useless anyway tbh

[clever wagon]

Who are we kidding

Git gud and get to lv 2391 to get them gorgeous Tournament Realm portraits :)))

[balmy wolf]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s2-Qzyo_SfQ/maxresdefault_live.jpg

imo 2 years and pro will take it

considering next patch allow them to earn xp in scrim

[forest raven]

With how much teams scrim they'll get plat in a few months

[balmy wolf]

idk, they scrim 8 hours everyday atleast

kinda 1 level every hour

[willow remnant]

dont customs not give experience

[jovial eagle]

think they will

i think

[forest raven]

They will come the new patch @willow remnant

[forest raven]

@toxic yacht You hear about c9 getting bishop as a trial coach?

[toxic yacht]

yee

[forest raven]

That'll be good for c9 in the long run if he stays

Probably too little too late to beat Uncia though

🤷

[toxic yacht]

they definitely needed one

[forest raven]

Oh yeah for sure

Especially a Korean one like Bishop

Will def help them improve their team cohesion

[toxic yacht]

they only got him because his korean

so that they look cooler

[forest raven]

You watch AMM @toxic yacht ?

[toxic yacht]

I watched half of day 1

went to sleep for day 2 because school

[forest raven]

rip

[toxic yacht]

mfw juvenile still ults shields without rein

[clever wagon]

Sooo r/cow is still not linked directly, even with the "Related Subreddits" linking to a whole other page

[toxic yacht]

mfw nico ALWAYS gets potg

[forest raven]

PUMPKIN DESTROYER

Rogue had one game where Nico didn't get potg

[vestal mortar]

Didn't Winz get potg sometime on ilios?

Or am I mis-remembering

[forest raven]

idk maybe

[vestal mortar]

Or maybe it was Nepal

Found it! Rogue vs Renegades on Nepal https://www.twitch.tv/videos/124764109?t=01h40m52s

He punched J3sus in the face haha, that's how I must have remembered it

[clever wagon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5wf2ly/thoughts_on_buffing_soldiers_biotic_field_and/ bringing brilliant "balancing" ideas to the table everyday

[toxic yacht]

lol

[quartz wren]

Soldier best healer?

[wanton bronze]

Pls no

[toxic yacht]

yes, let's make soldier a better all rounder

lol

have more characters you never need to swap off

[wanton bronze]

I still think you could adjust the damage down by 1 and it would be fine

[toxic yacht]

yeah, lol

he was a bit overtuned

he's actually op in plat right now

it's why I'll become a 76 main next season, lul

I actually expected 20 dmg to be fine at high levels

didn't think that it'd break him

[wanton bronze]

I was disappointed in seeing soldier with genji and tracer in quite a lot of the comps but I guess soldier doesn't need as much protection as mccree

[toxic yacht]

yeah, it's also what I've been thinking

76 is also more mobile

maybe they thought that that'd work better?

[wanton bronze]

It's just Mccree doesn't seem to be able to deal with both flankers on him at the same time whilst soldier can just disengage

[molten zealot]

So, bastion or soldier for next season when PTR hits?

Oh wait, wrong channel.

[balmy wolf]

I sware to god that if bastion nano tank will become meta i will unistall Overwatch

[toxic yacht]

If nanotank goes meta I'll stick to csgo for a while

lol

I'll be like "Hey, I know I shittalked you a bit"

"But I'm back"

Or move to Quake

[balmy wolf]

Better quake dude

Csgo is shit

[solid spear]

Paladins

[toxic yacht]

[balmy wolf]

kek

Paladins is good

If you never played Overwatch

Otherwise it looks like a shitty Chinese ripoff

F2P P2W model

People are praising hirez listening to the latest patch that made paladins disgusting P2W

Like if hirez will never try doing that again

[onyx hull]

is carbon tomorrow or was it today?

oh it's later nvm

[pine star]

Why on earth was Discord telling me I must have 10 to talk in this server? Are you fucking kidding me?

Had to reinstall

[toxic yacht]

mfw we have another nier guy

[pine star]

The hype is real Sojum, I am sorry

[solid spear]

Nier is fire

[toxic yacht]

I'm salty because I won't have money by then

[solid spear]

Gotta wait a little for it though cuz Horizon, Persona 5 and zeldurr means ded wallet atm

[pine star]

OH GOD I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT PERSONA

[wheat karma]

Persona and Nier are not OW esport related are they?

[toxic yacht]

yes

they are

[vestal mortar]

🤔

[forest raven]

👀

[toxic yacht]

also, mfw arm started moderating channels to remove derailing again

[forest raven]

[wheat karma]

I just never happened to be around when they derailed. But stop trying to derail boi

[balmy wolf]

@pine star it happens to me too

I think the issue occur because the server is overpopulated

[pine star]

@balmy wolf goddammit discord, figure out your shit @_@

[balmy wolf]

11k ppl connected (excluded people like me invisible) is a fuckton

[drowsy arrow]

#esports-discussion

[toxic yacht]

#esports-discussion

[drowsy arrow]

did you watch the monthly melee games last night

only got to see first games

[dusty edge]

🇹🇷 How happy is the one who says I am a Turk

[drowsy arrow]

#esports-discussion

[toxic yacht]

Watched the set on Saturday

Gonna watch the Sunday ones this week

[drowsy arrow]

Yeah i watched saturdays games

and first bit of sundays

[toxic yacht]

Pls

[drowsy arrow]

Rogue played the dive super well imo

[toxic yacht]

@quartz wren

But yeah, rogue played super well

[balmy wolf]

Rogue's dive 👌🏻

[toxic yacht]

For na standards

[balmy wolf]

Rogue's anything else

[onyx hull]

i think they didn't diverge from dive just to not reveal aces on their sleeves

[drowsy arrow]

knoxx actually really good on the winston

[vestal mortar]

Yeah I was impressed by his winston play

[balmy wolf]

I really liked Winz' Lucio too

Very aggressive

He got lots of boops

[drowsy arrow]

yea he was doing pretty good on the lucio, wonder who is calling

I guess winz + knoxx primarily

[toxic yacht]

aKm's Pharah was the best though

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

Especially when he tried to take on Mangachu

[balmy wolf]

That was painful to watch

[ripe marlin]

lol

[balmy wolf]

you can't be good on everything

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[drowsy arrow]

there is someone out there

🤔

[toxic yacht]

I feel their insistence on dive is the result of knoxxx being a meh reinhardt

[balmy wolf]

Yeah I wonder who @drowsy arrow

🤔

[drowsy arrow]

🤔

[toxic yacht]

Yeah man, who's good at every dps?

[ripe marlin]

tailspin?

[toxic yacht]

He may even be familiar with aKm

[drowsy arrow]

tviq, linkzr quite good too

[onyx hull]

fl0w3r :/

[ripe marlin]

iddqd

[drowsy arrow]

rascal also

[toxic yacht]

I'd say tviq, surefour, mendo and nanohana

Haven't seen too much of linkzr

Gotta ask veine

[drowsy arrow]

Rascal seems to be showing us more of his hero pool too

[balmy wolf]

Linkzr is pretty versatile

[drowsy arrow]

ye

[onyx hull]

if akm was decent on pharah they would beat 4tank easy (i mean, easier than yesterday)

[drowsy arrow]

he adapted fairly well, hopefully he improves more

[balmy wolf]

They just need to broaden their hero pool

[drowsy arrow]

soon ™

[toxic yacht]

Yup

[balmy wolf]

But even then, I'm worried that they have no Rein player

[toxic yacht]

They seem very hero limited

[balmy wolf]

tviq is not good with sombra kapperino

[onyx hull]

anyone knows if soOn streams

[balmy wolf]

so technically he's a shitty dps :^)

[drowsy arrow]

Soon does stream

[toxic yacht]

At least nico can play projectile, although I dunno if he can play something that's not genji

[drowsy arrow]

he plays a good pharah

[toxic yacht]

SoOnSM

Or something

[onyx hull]

ty

[toxic yacht]

Is his twitch

[balmy wolf]

Like as of right now, The Hitscan DPS role is split between 2 people, both of those people being able to play McCree, Tracer and 76 but one of them playing some of those heroes better than the other so theres no point in switching around

And the "Projectile DPS" role doesn't even exist

[ripe marlin]

nico is a decent soilder

[onyx hull]

dude looks like a truck driver

[toxic yacht]

Reaper, don't forget reaper

[balmy wolf]

Its just Nico's Genji

[toxic yacht]

aKm and soon are both insane reapers

[balmy wolf]

And aKm's Pharah if you can count that

reaper in 2017 lul

aKm's Reaper + Unkoe's Zen is godlike dude

[onyx hull]

unkoe's zen was the real mvp

[balmy wolf]

ana is the root of every problem 😐

[onyx hull]

discording everyone being targeted by ults

[toxic yacht]

I personally find unkoe really underrated tbh

[drowsy arrow]

yup

[balmy wolf]

I remember yesterday on Lijiang Control Center, aKm teleported into the little corner next to main

[ripe marlin]

yup

[toxic yacht]

He was actually outplaying jehong to some degree

[balmy wolf]

And then when they all pushed in he melted Jake

[toxic yacht]

At APAC

[balmy wolf]

With Unkoe's discord

Like 3 shots dead

because cam focused on nico so fuck spectate support

boring

Felt so satisfying

:c

There was a lot of spectating on supp this tourney actually

[drowsy arrow]

dont worry, spectating through game will be available by the time owleague comes

[balmy wolf]

A lot more than previous tournaments at least

They were on Winz and Unkoe a lot

[ripe marlin]

all of second map lijiang was following support

[balmy wolf]

jehong get rarely a spectate

:c

Yeah Apex is terrible at spectating supports

[sour wraith]

i like csgo gotv spectating

[balmy wolf]

guess i miss unkoe cam then because all i remember is nico

[sour wraith]

where you can pick who you follow

[onyx hull]

wow rogue actually plays on the same room

[ripe marlin]

lol monthly melee nico cam

[drowsy arrow]

pretty sure if you recorded the stats, genji has the most time spent on camera

[balmy wolf]

I wonder what IMT will be doing till Aythen gets back

[drowsy arrow]

for spectators

[balmy wolf]

NiCO also got most potgs

[onyx hull]

those pumpkins

[balmy wolf]

Out of the 13 matches Rogue played he got 12 of them

i think they want to implement gotv on overwatch

i think nate said that in the previous kr intervier

[ripe marlin]

where did nico come from who did he play for before rogue

[balmy wolf]

He played for Melty

[ripe marlin]

thanks

[balmy wolf]

And most recently Bonjour

sydioda disbanded

Yeah lol

they will come back as bonjour

RIP 🕯 🇫🇷 🇪🇺

Bonjour got picked up by Sydioda then a month later they're gone and back to Bonjour

lack of eu tournament for sure

_>

was the main reason of disband

[drowsy arrow]

monthly melee this weekend

woop

tough groups

[sour wraith]

plus them playing in carbon tonight

[balmy wolf]

Speaking of in-game, we are planning to provide systems constantly that will support esports. We are planning a lot of systems including making HP bars above the head more visible, and systems that will allow the spectator to see clearly the progression of the match. These preparations are also part of the overall preparations for the OW league.

[ripe marlin]

that will be nice

[balmy wolf]

Wait wot

Monthly Melee again this weekend?

[ripe marlin]

no carbon series

[onyx hull]

weekly monthly melee

[balmy wolf]

Hek u @drowsy arrow

[drowsy arrow]

?

the strivewire

[ripe marlin]

happy to see weekly and monthly melee back

[balmy wolf]

You said monthly melee this weekend

[drowsy arrow]

ya strivewire monthly brawl* sorry

brawl or melee

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sour wraith]

we have carbon the next 3 days plus all the matches they played this weekend for monthly melee that like 20 plus games per team in the span of a week

at least for the non in korea NA teams

[ripe marlin]

you mean the best na teams

[sour wraith]

debateable

[ripe marlin]

i would think if envy and c9 were in town its likely rogue would place 2nd or 3rd

[sour wraith]

yes for nV maybe not for Clown9 and Misfits

[ripe marlin]

misfits can upset there better than they get credit for in my opinion at least

and it depends which clown9 team shows up the consistant one or the clowns

[balmy wolf]

carbon series, rng and hammer will win

i'll skip tonight

imt hammer tomorrow is interesting

C9 aren't beating Uncia

[drowsy arrow]

but this is overwatch

[balmy wolf]

Envy said they were looking better in scrims

OH YEAH APEX TOMORROW

[drowsy arrow]

anything can happen right?

[balmy wolf]

But I dont know if thats good enough for Uncia

[onyx hull]

oh c9 still alive

[balmy wolf]

Well LG did beat IMT 2-3 @drowsy arrow

So I suppose so

[drowsy arrow]

^

some really weird results pop up now and then

[balmy wolf]

cant wait to see c9 dont stay on the point

[ripe marlin]

everytime someone says anything can happen i remember rogue beat envy back in october i believe

[sour wraith]

so hammers have played 42 games since the 18th.

[balmy wolf]

so... what c9 have to do to get promoted?

Everyone expected Envy to take LAN by storm

But they were an EU team playing in NA

So of course they looked really good

Then they went to LAN against the Top EU teams

And got crushed

That felt good

[ripe marlin]

i remember that i think that was the best game reinforced ever played not to sy he isnt good just he played really good

[onyx hull]

apex is too damn early 😦

[sour wraith]

so hammers, IMT, Renegades, CoL and Faze will all likely have played 50 matches in the past 10 days. Anyone else see an issue with that?

[ripe marlin]

yeah cant stand watching faze anymore same stategy every game

[balmy wolf]

No?

[ripe marlin]

strategy

[sour wraith]

i mean we dont want the csgo issue of too many tournies

[balmy wolf]

Lol we dont have too many tournies

[sour wraith]

also player burnout

[ripe marlin]

i think they have to have enough tourneys to keep building popularity understand where they get there number from on each day of the week and the players need a way to make more money right now

[toxic yacht]

Yo, rogue never crushed nV

It was one of the closest ow games ever

[ripe marlin]

yeah they beat them at lan last year

oh yeah i didnt say crushed

[sour wraith]

we need a 60 round overwatch game

[ripe marlin]

it was an amazing game

[sour wraith]

like that one csgo match

[toxic yacht]

Polo said crushed

[onyx hull]

60 rounds to test every comp and every strat possible

[sour wraith]

60 rounds of 2cp

[onyx hull]

put that attack sym to good use

[ripe marlin]

oh didnt notice that but yeah i miss watching envy play more

2am games are just not acceptable

[toxic yacht]

It was a bo5 with very close stopwatches and a koth that went 5 rounds with 100-63 or something in the end

[sour wraith]

how long until a pro gives up with a 60 round 2cp match

[toxic yacht]

Really close

PUT YOUR HEADSETS BACK ON SON, YOU'VE GOT A GAME TO PLAY

[ripe marlin]

whatever happened to tailspin hes still un]der contract right

[toxic yacht]

nope

[sour wraith]

he is taking a break

[toxic yacht]

He's a free agent

[sour wraith]

whateveer that means

[ripe marlin]

lol oh yeah the headset

any rumours on where hes going

[toxic yacht]

Nope

[sour wraith]

no

[balmy wolf]

Ah yes

It was Misfits who crushed them

[ripe marlin]

another nrg signing super nrg

[toxic yacht]

Misfits beat them 3-1

Much less close too

[balmy wolf]

It was only Nepal that was a stomp for Envy

1 stage for Misfits then 3 in a row for Envy

[toxic yacht]

Taimou on Nepal was fucking 🔥

[sour wraith]

we have @balmy wolf claiming NRG will have harb while i say they sign Nesh and Ajax

[balmy wolf]

Every other map though

lul rip

[toxic yacht]

First time I remember him playing Hog

[balmy wolf]

dont hype nrg

i'll save you for a new disappointment

NRG always good on paper, shit while playing

[sour wraith]

im being realistic with Nesh and Ajax

[balmy wolf]

WOW TF2 VETERANS, THAT WILL FUCKING STOMP EVERYONE

[sour wraith]

wew all hope for harb

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

Keep in mind that clockwork hates ow

And has no idea what he's doing

[balmy wolf]

before and after clockwork

[toxic yacht]

One of the top 10 pro ow jokes

ArHaN is also somewhere up there

[balmy wolf]

Looks at Reu's match history

God

who's better

So many 2nd places

ahran or sdb?

[toxic yacht]

Lol

ArHaN, obviously. According to himself

[balmy wolf]

xD

whoru is the best now imo

[toxic yacht]

Eh, whoru gets chain healed by jehong

Need to see him under different circumstances

[balmy wolf]

clockwork cracks me up, dude gets on a pro team, scrims, gets off and doesn't play after at all

esca said they get carried by whoru

they revolves around him

that's why esca dps was meh

[onyx hull]

r/wholesomeoverwatch linked on the 'related subreddits' wiki page but r/cow still left out zzz

[toxic yacht]

Lol

[balmy wolf]

dude /r/overwatch is a fucking shame of subreddit

a fucking joke

[onyx hull]

mods really like their dumb monopoly

[sour wraith]

@balmy wolf see steel from csgo. was on splyce and is now back to csgo which he can never play at the pro level anymore

[balmy wolf]

like you earn something having 800k or 8k ppl lmao

why allow people to know about other subs easily when you can just keep everyone on the same sub and control them all xd

hope they will use that for f**king b*tches atleast

[toxic yacht]

Lol

[onyx hull]

don't you love seeing 'wrestle with jeff' being repeated over and over and over

[sour wraith]

i wonder if blizzard will be cool with the pasts of some of the pro players for OW league

[balmy wolf]

"we want all community to get represented" shitpost,loweffort, shitty 1 line humor and shitty potg are allowed

assuming that everyone likes them

all the gaming community have a strict policy against loweffort content

except this one

because fuck you

!!!!

[toxic yacht]

I think blizz is fine with tjos, babybay and mykl

[onyx hull]

idgaf about low effort just guide people to serious communities ffs

[sour wraith]

i mean like AZK who was banned for match fixing

[toxic yacht]

Ajax hopefully too

[balmy wolf]

i think players that are blatantly toxic and assholish on stream won't be allowed to be if they're in the league

https://twitter.com/ggHarsha/status/836247488176664576

[toxic yacht]

Anywa, I didn't like kungarna, lol

They were super obnoxious

[balmy wolf]

no one did

mykl is a dickhead

[onyx hull]

why

[toxic yacht]

You saw babybays post after getting ESEA banned mid tournament?

[balmy wolf]

he think he's the best

[toxic yacht]

Lol

[balmy wolf]

I liked Kungarna

[sour wraith]

i think ajax will be on nrg

[balmy wolf]

tell me you've gone into mykls stream and tell me you didn't want to kill yourself

[onyx hull]

lol

[balmy wolf]

i like mykl but im pretty sure he will calm down when real team will stomp them

[toxic yacht]

Kungarna were like obnoxious high schoolers

[balmy wolf]

trying too hard to be the bad guys

[sour wraith]

sinatraa's stream is bad at times also xQc's

[balmy wolf]

Idc how they act, they were good players and fun to watch

just calling yourself "kingmykl" speak for itself

i like them tbh

[toxic yacht]

Anyway, every scene needs bad guys

Lol

[balmy wolf]

but they are pretty obnoxious

[sour wraith]

xqc tilts so easy

[toxic yacht]

Everyone hated fnatic in cs

[balmy wolf]

for me, the bad guys are envy

Im like 90% sure if you're in the league theres going to be expectations for how you act on your personal stream, same thing with the lcs

[toxic yacht]

We need someone like that in ow

[onyx hull]

taimou is the villain

[toxic yacht]

But I can't get myself to hate nV

[balmy wolf]

i hate them because they win too much

Thats because they were an "NA team" in NA

taimou is pretty arrogant

im happy they stomp him

he have to calm down

[toxic yacht]

I mean, he's good

[balmy wolf]

ik he's good

[toxic yacht]

And if he gets stomped

[balmy wolf]

but doesnt mean you can act like a dhead

Taimou... has good aim

[toxic yacht]

He'll just practice more

Until he won't get stomped anymore

[sour wraith]

taimou tilts easy as well

[toxic yacht]

And stay arrogant

[balmy wolf]

I mean

[toxic yacht]

He's really fucking dedicated

[balmy wolf]

I would rather taimou be that way than someone that cant back it up

true

like mykl LUL

mykl is not terrible

If you really do have to not act like a total dickhead on your personal stream for the League

Then rip taimou

but sure not comparable to taimou

he can play tracer

congrats

taimou dont

mykl > taimou confirmed

[sour wraith]

mangachu will rage but he is decent when he strams

[clever wagon]

As long as mods of r/cow don't see the need of getting a direct link displayed, I'm fine

[balmy wolf]

just entire_eurozone...

[clever wagon]

I mean, we wouldn't want "brilliant" balancing ideas flooding the sub

See my previous chat above for reference

[onyx hull]

but r/cow seems to have actual good mods

[balmy wolf]

I never wanted both subs to be in one

[toxic yacht]

Spriteguy

[balmy wolf]

cringey 1 liner potgs are better

xd

entire eurozone is shit

[toxic yacht]

From this server

The admin

[balmy wolf]

pesto is bae

I find it best for all the esports shit to be in one place

[toxic yacht]

Is a mod on /r/ow

[balmy wolf]

Rather than going through all the shit on r/ow to find the esports news

[toxic yacht]

And cow

[clever wagon]

I meant the mods themselves seem to have to agree and personally request r/ow mods

[toxic yacht]

Just saying

[onyx hull]

i just want more esport discussion

[balmy wolf]

mod of one of the biggest subs on the website? yeah someones bound to be on a powertrip lmaoo

you can't get a serious discussion because potg get upvote easy

[toxic yacht]

Sprite tries to bring eEsports to /r/ow

[balmy wolf]

while a serious discussion you have to read

sprite is the only good mod indeed

[onyx hull]

ye

[balmy wolf]

other are fucking tards

[toxic yacht]

He's also a mod on r/cow

[balmy wolf]

You should probably just PM the Subreddit Mods on here

Rather than talking about it in here

HAH

they dont listen anyway

[toxic yacht]

I mean, polo, veine and I

[dusty surge]

Sprite's a mod over there?

[toxic yacht]

Have extensively discussed this with mods

[dusty surge]

He should tell the average users to stop being cunts.

[balmy wolf]

you know how much time ppl pm them to get the link of cow in sub?

like mods on r/ow listen to anything anyone says lul

never happened

[toxic yacht]

Multiple times

[balmy wolf]

same goes for low effor content

smth changed?

no

[dusty surge]

In 15 minutes on the COW discord, I ran into every form of cancer I hate about gaming communities. Bleh.

[toxic yacht]

@dusty surge ah, good ol cow user base

[balmy wolf]

wassup with COW?

never talked in there

[toxic yacht]

I meant the sub + discord, tbh

[dusty surge]

The biggest and most obvious problem: rampant elitism from pretty much every GM and top500 on the server.

[toxic yacht]

Elitism is kinda commom

[dusty surge]

Want to have a discussion? Better have a GM profile ready to link.

[balmy wolf]

cow is better than /r/ow for sure

[toxic yacht]

Btw, sprite is a sub mod, not server mod

[balmy wolf]

atleast in cow you can have a serious discussion

[dusty surge]

Oh

[onyx hull]

but DAE need healing xd

[balmy wolf]

and not "wreste with jeff, prepare to die xddxdx"

this meme is as shit as harambe now

fucking normies REEEE

[onyx hull]

i think it's something about pop culture subs in general

[balmy wolf]

its because this game is too cute

there's a lot of people interest in serious discussion

after a bunch of month i find cow

all the weirdos are obssessed with fan art and stupid ass bronze potgs

[onyx hull]

they love to repeat quotes and kill humor in general

[pine star]

I for one don't mind to simply go to cow

The people there actually care for discussion

[onyx hull]

just see any other gaming sub like skyrim or idk, it alywas boils down to low effort if mods don't intervene

[balmy wolf]

its because they think that shit is funny too

so they allow it, its sad

[onyx hull]

anyway let's stop derailing from esports, can someone rec some good rein streamers for me to learn shit

[balmy wolf]

times ago

i would suggest you reinforce

now i wont do that

also he stopped streaming

so dunno 😐

if you want some pub rein, go for moonmoon

dunno for pro

[onyx hull]

moonmoon is memeing too much

[balmy wolf]

"moonmoon is able to go pro"

/r/ow average user

[onyx hull]

no one streaming rein recently 😦 always zarya/hog

[pine star]

Watch Miro maybe

[balmy wolf]

miro is not a rein main

[pine star]

He streams a TON of Rein

[balmy wolf]

oh

[pine star]

Like 50% of his playtime is Rein

No kidding

[balmy wolf]

dunno, i usually dont watch him

[pine star]

I honestly watch him to improve my monkey

Only to leave disappointed because he's playing Rein lul

[balmy wolf]

he's streaming now

qp lol

miro face 🙂

muma, xqc, i wouldn't say harry because comp/pro reins are smarter than him, cocco if he plays MT in ranked, etc

[pine star]

What's he playing?

[balmy wolf]

lobby

new hero: lobby hahaha

[pine star]

Miro face 8)

[onyx hull]

@balmy wolf ty

not seeing xqc streaming these days

[balmy wolf]

sometimes xqc can be a loud abrasive person but when he plays rein and is playing well you do learn alot so

check him out

[onyx hull]

miro's queue is crazy long wtf

[balmy wolf]

mcree @pine star

[pine star]

LUL wat

First Chips on Sombra

Now this

Just off season things

[balmy wolf]

he's qping

so chilled

miro ulted in front of 4 people

obviously he died

[pine star]

Rip

[balmy wolf]

offseason is poorly executed

qp is better than offseason

[onyx hull]

he's ulting so much is so funny

like 5 ults 2 kills

[ripe marlin]

lol so sad

[digital pond]

I mean at the same time off season isn;t that long this time

So I'm not that upset

[visual fulcrum]

Offseason = everytime a match begins, someone leaves and it doesnt get cancelled gg

[toxic yacht]

I know man, I especially loved when c9 did that and the game didn't get instacancelled

poor c9

pls, keep #esports-discussion to eSports

[visual fulcrum]

Sorry sir, just wanted to add that. Have a nice day

[toxic yacht]

np, lul

[clever wagon]

Off season better?

Hanzo Widow Genji picks combined EVERY match in QP

And they all suck

Not even

[onyx hull]

my teams always get rekt by hanzo/widow defenses 😦 and they throw a pharah in the middle too

i am forced to go winston and i'm terrible on him

[balmy wolf]

Winston is more difficult to use than he seems

You need to have good game sense and awareness at all times to use him effectively

because he does almost no damage and his shield cooldown is very long

That's why it's cool to see the pros on him, it's beautiful

[onyx hull]

i like when pros use his shield to split the enemy team. when i'm on ana i get so mad trying to heal my team and my darts can't go past the goddamn barrier

keeping esport related, xqc is streaming some winston

getting tilted on 1x1

[limber pine]

Week 2 | Day 1 matches of the Carbon Series begins in just a few minutes!

TODAY'S MATCHES:
Hammers Esports vs Luminosity Gaming
Renegades vs compLexity Gaming

Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/carbonentertainment or at http://carbon.gg/ocs.

[onyx hull]

hope hammers doesn't disappoint

zp looking good

[digital pond]

Rogue isn't in this one right?

[onyx hull]

nope

[digital pond]

Good

Kinda wanna see the rest of the ranking

[balmy wolf]

ZP is love

[limber pine]

[balmy wolf]

[digital pond]

Eisse saw his life flash on that hook

[clever wagon]

Harb is also streaming

Sub games

My my

[digital pond]

Time to multi watch

[balmy wolf]

C9 is an inspiriation to a lot of teams nowadays

[digital pond]

I wish I could speak korean man or understand it rather

So many KR streamers do vod reviews

[balmy wolf]

You could try and learn it

jep always check your corners

[digital pond]

I plan to just not right now

Also

LG tilted me

[onyx hull]

missed everything till now, what happened

[balmy wolf]

Hammers is probably worn down from all their matches yesterday

[ripe marlin]

check your corners

[balmy wolf]

LG is about to hold Hammers on Hollywood

[digital pond]

LG almost held Hammers on first point dropped the ball in Overtime

And are just getting fucking trampled

Lost second point

[onyx hull]

is hammers weak today?

[digital pond]

They struggled on first point

Jake is going man mode

[balmy wolf]

Too early to say

[ripe marlin]

they seem to be [picking it up

[digital pond]

He's putting load of work on

He's been carrying most fights

[ripe marlin]

jake is going crazy right now

[onyx hull]

weird grav

[digital pond]

Lmao

[ripe marlin]

lol

[digital pond]

LG

[onyx hull]

c9'd

[digital pond]

Fucking

Tilts

Me

[balmy wolf]

LG choke

How?!

[digital pond]

Like I just don't get how they lost that first point

Ube even got killed right before

[onyx hull]

wtf were they doing there lol

[balmy wolf]

Hex shaved???

[digital pond]

Like it was going so fucking well

Ube got picked on tracer immediately overtime hit and LG fell apart.

And they proceeded to just lose all the fights after minus like 1.

[onyx hull]

2cp fun 👌

anubis is fun at least

[clever wagon]

@balmy wolf C9 inspiration?

[balmy wolf]

I missed the ending lol but apparently

Also I just noticed that shirt and tie from the host damn

D.Va :D

[onyx hull]

dva so weak 😦

[digital pond]

Train pushed way to far ahead too

Just absorbed death

[balmy wolf]

D.Va is pathetic now unfortunately, but I don't care

[ripe marlin]

super mei

jake is in fire tonight

[onyx hull]

i only play her on defense now for offtank mobility

[balmy wolf]

I always play her unless we need a healer

I love her too much >_>

[onyx hull]

she's lots of fun but too often i feel like i can't protect my team much

2cp stalling...

either team kill or tie

[digital pond]

I really want them to treat 2CP respawn like tf2 respawn

Because fuck that game mode.

[ripe marlin]

i want a 3 or 4 cp

[onyx hull]

would be n ice if they changed the respawn distance for second point defense

hybrid is kinda 4cp lol

[ripe marlin]

lol true

[balmy wolf]

D.Va's DM should be getting a buff in the next patch thankfully

[onyx hull]

can she block hooks now

[balmy wolf]

No

but she's still a walking critbox with almost no damage output unless she's 2 meters away

She blocks the shot after the hook

[onyx hull]

zzzz

i get the logic but zzz

[balmy wolf]

That along with the increased hook cooldown helps

She's a direct counter to Road now idk what you're zzz-ing about

because hog is just stupid right now

[digital pond]

The biggest thing about her new matrix is

[onyx hull]

#makematrixop

[digital pond]

You can no longer zarya ult by looking on the floor

She'll eat it even if you do that

And that tilts me

[onyx hull]

well you should probably grav baby dva anyway

[balmy wolf]

DM has huge cooldown fyi

[digital pond]

Oh I know

I just mean it's not an option anymore

[balmy wolf]

Only really good D.Vas would be able to counter Grav consistently

[digital pond]

The changes to DM make sense

I think people will take time tog et used to it though

In addition the spread nerf on roadhog combo helps her a little

[balmy wolf]

Grav is already the best ult in the game along with shatter so it was about time there was a way to stop it

Spread buff*

[onyx hull]

rip hammers

DM can't stop shatter right?

[balmy wolf]

No

DM only stops projectiles

I think she'll be in a good spot after the hog nerfs and buffs for her unless the new hero is good and good against her

It's all about Ana though

D.Va was fine with her armor before but Ana could just eternally keep her alive

[onyx hull]

i think dva picks will get more common if there's a bastion meta inc

[digital pond]

Today is the day Jake decided he's beating ass and drink milk.

And he;s out of milk.

[onyx hull]

anyway about the match. why did train held his ult

[digital pond]

Hidan

Has a wide as fuck

Back

Holy

[balmy wolf]

He emoted

[digital pond]

That was a nice emote tbh.

But I've been falling in love with Ana players lately.

They're pretty insane.

[onyx hull]

why is voll on genji ?

[balmy wolf]

spree missing so many shots

[digital pond]

The one he hit wouldn't won

but jake got healed l0l

Voll with the zoning DragonBlade

[onyx hull]

t'was bad

glad he switched

[digital pond]

l0l

Jake is talespin

Spree is a worse seagull

[onyx hull]

seems like he can only get stuff done with a pocket mercy

[digital pond]

Yeh Pharah just isn't his hero but it feels like the team wants to play it no matter what

l0l

HIDAN MY BOY

[onyx hull]

lol

[digital pond]

He's trying so hard

[onyx hull]

rob getting so much focus 😦

[digital pond]

Yeah hurts them a lot

[onyx hull]

mercy ha

ube LOL

[balmy wolf]

Yeah what is that tie?

[onyx hull]

can't get a closeup

[forest raven]

Oh my god Hammers threw so hard

[onyx hull]

i stopped watching on dorado what's the final score for hammers?

hammers won ok

shake is a good dps

[forest raven]

Yeah, 3-1

Dorado was real close

[onyx hull]

the bastion pick was weird, i don't see it's purpose much

[forest raven]

Close out a round

It's a surprise pick

The enemy team isn't gonna expect 500dps right near the end of a round

But if they do adapt

Switch off because the Bastion is now useless

[onyx hull]

yea but a bastion is attention-grabbing, they can change their strat quick and go back to the usual when the bastion dies

[forest raven]

🤷

It's worked many times

[onyx hull]

hey are any tournaments allowing skins lately

[forest raven]

Nope

Blizz rules

Any tournament with a sizable prize pool has to follow what Blizz says

So fixed map pools, no skins etc.

[onyx hull]

i like skins 😦

[forest raven]

JOEMEISTER

[wintry matrix]

WOW

[forest raven]

[forest raven]

@balmy wolf You gonna watch APEX tonight

[balmy wolf]

When is it

[forest raven]

1900 KST

Which is +9 UTC

[balmy wolf]

Can you just tell me how many hours

[forest raven]

Begins in like five and a half hours

[balmy wolf]

Then no

[forest raven]

rip

[wary jacinth]

5 hours 36 minutes 28 seconds

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1900+KST

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest raven]

All right, overachiever

[wary jacinth]

fun fact

you can google time zones

also google has a terrifying geolocational ability

what the hell is this

[forest raven]

I mean it's google

But also off topic, Zen

👀

[wary jacinth]

r-right

[kind lake]

i went to a bagel store today, paid in cash

[forest raven]

MOD ABOOSE

[kind lake]

and google maps asked me to rate the store

??

[forest raven]

This isn't #general-discussion

smdh

[kind lake]

oh

tbh

i thought it was

[forest raven]

FeelsBad

[kind lake]

am sorry

[balmy wolf]

[kind lake]

wrongclickamsorry

back to sports of E

[balmy wolf]

cmon renegades

[forest raven]

It's a battle between coL's inferior skill as a team and RNG's ability to throw

[balmy wolf]

lmao

i just want my nrg back

[forest raven]

Next OMM

[balmy wolf]

can't wait till they get thier full team

[forest raven]

NRG and Selfless

Mark my words

[balmy wolf]

whats nrg's full list so far?

[forest raven]

Seagull, Dummy, Numlocked and iddqd

[balmy wolf]

so they need healers

[forest raven]

Off tank and Lucio/igl

[balmy wolf]

igl?

[forest raven]

In game leader

[balmy wolf]

ooh

[forest raven]

A big problem for old NRG was their lack of a proper shotcaller

[balmy wolf]

idd and seagull is gonna be a fan favorite

[forest raven]

Oh yeah for sure

And if Harbleu is picked up by NRG

[balmy wolf]

oh yeah, harb's open

who did they replace harb with?

tork?

They havent yet

[forest raven]

Right now coL is trialing Dcop as main tank and Bischu as off tank

[balmy wolf]

Still trialing

huh

[forest raven]

From what we've seen Nesh and Ajax have been playing with NRG a bit

[balmy wolf]

omg if they get ajax and harb as there other two

im gonna write NRG PogChmp on my forehead with a sharpie

[forest raven]

Also coL is throwing hard

[balmy wolf]

they just capped one!

[forest raven]

Five and a half minutes and it took them four and a half to take first on Hanamura

If this is another draw I s2g

[balmy wolf]

did they draw kings row? I only joined after

[forest raven]

Yeah, 3-3

[balmy wolf]

how the freak did sypeh get up there?

[forest raven]

Rocket jumping

Also another draw goddamnit

[balmy wolf]

jeasus the chat

[forest raven]

This bo5 is going to a fourth map and it's 1-0

[balmy wolf]

LUL

welp, guess im gonna be here all night

[forest raven]

At least it won't go over APEX

[balmy wolf]

even if they draw it still counts as a game right?

or do they just not count it

Correct

[forest raven]

Oh Carbon even has the same tiebreaker system as APEX

[balmy wolf]

would it change tournaments if they had a spectator be a captain?

like a 7th person

[forest raven]

That would be bad

[balmy wolf]

I dont even know what that means

but they cant spec past thier teams vision

like death spectate kinda

[forest raven]

Well there's nothing in place to customise what spectators see, so no

[balmy wolf]

just all game

How would that help

idk

[forest raven]

RNG needs to drop Juv3nile

[balmy wolf]

he cant flex well enough

hes mediocre at best on zarya and hog

good on winston

thats about it

never even seen him play d.va

He's their rein though

[forest raven]

He's not a good Rein

[balmy wolf]

Team's rein players dont usually play anything else

oh shit wrong team

my b

[forest raven]

Honestly this match is like Uncia vs. Lunatic-Hai in season 1 of APEX

Very even teams

[balmy wolf]

tru

[forest raven]

Wow that is so sad

coL is so close to winning these games

[balmy wolf]

then throws

👏

they need to buff deadeye

especially if they keep making stuns and disrupt abilites

also why doesnt he lock faster when hes dmg boosted?

He does

It just doesnt show it visually

w-what

so it gets lethal before it shows the skull?

Yes

ok, thats just dumb

please fix that

He builds 170~ damage per second

normally

225~ per second with nano

but the targeting circle charges the same

right

Yes

The max damage for non nanoboosted mccree is 1020

1350 for nanoboosted

my god

now we just need someone to stand in the open long enough to get that dmg

You can charge that on a rein shield

and if there's 1 person behind it you can destroy the shield fairly easily

[pine star]

If the Rein's not stupid, he will slowly walk to cover before he finishes the deadeye

[balmy wolf]

and if theres more than 1 behind you can destroy the shield and kill people

well the people behind simply shoot you before you can charge

the dmg fully

[pine star]

^

So many things have to be in place in order to pull off a successful deadeye

[balmy wolf]

Well if there's a full 6 behind, in 1 second he charges 1350 damage nanoboosted

again, if theres 6 people thats 6 people targeting mcree

he gets his cowboy ass shredded

They might not all be targetting him

[pine star]

Unless maybe he's also behind a Rein

[balmy wolf]

well they should

And if he gets it off, which isnt hard its only 1 second, you can do some work

its still weak compared to other ults

especially when trying to combo

[pine star]

Deadeye is to zone out tbh

[balmy wolf]

charging it fully on 6 people does 8100 damage

wew

[pine star]

If you get one or two kills, fuck yeah

[balmy wolf]

this is the first time i've seen mercy on the scoreboard thing

[pine star]

She's been getting some playtime

I ain't even mad

For some reason I actually like pros playing Mercy

[forest raven]

Mercy sees play on one map of Oasis the most consistently

[pine star]

When they're good at her

[balmy wolf]

battle mercy

[forest raven]

lol what

[pine star]

Yes Jehong, I'm talking to you

[forest raven]

Why did Bischu ult

coL are doing quite well on Nepal

[balmy wolf]

yeha