esports-discussion

[onyx hull]

weird picks

[dusty surge]

Does it bother anyone else that Torb's hammer expands even if he doesn't hit something?

Makes it look like a squeaky hammer.

[onyx hull]

yeah

i dont know his hitbox

[pine star]

lol

Rekt

[onyx hull]

reaper best feeder

[dusty surge]

"Multi-core" :P

[pine star]

I love how they're focusing the shit out of Super, yet he barely loses half of his health

[onyx hull]

why are they struggling so hard, just the torb ?

[pine star]

ZP is right

They treat him like a raid boss lul

[onyx hull]

finally

[hot snow]

Dude

Hi

[onyx hull]

hello

[balmy wolf]

Hello

Dude

What the fuck

Is this Selfless?

Jesus fuck

[onyx hull]

that graviton charged super fast

[dusty surge]

Wow.

[balmy wolf]

Has Super teabagged yet?

https://clips.twitch.tv/curse/GiftedSwallowBORT

Holy fuck

[dusty surge]

Complexity is getting wrecked

[pine star]

D I S G U S T I N G

[onyx hull]

voll on zarya is nice

[forest raven]

I need me a Selfless v Hammers game

[balmy wolf]

That barrier was 2 seconds late

but they still got it lol

[onyx hull]

brutal

[pine star]

Is this fucking Dark Souls esports

[balmy wolf]

Watch coL full hold

[pine star]

[onyx hull]

those casters lol

[pine star]

Don't you talk trash about my boy ZP 👀

[onyx hull]

i like him

[dusty surge]

Is this BO5 as well?

[onyx hull]

rip

[pine star]

Reinhardt confirmed part of the dive comp

[onyx hull]

i dont think so

[forest raven]

This is bo3

[onyx hull]

Game 2: Immortals vs FaZe (bo3)
Game 3: WB Final (bo5)
Game 4: LB Round 3 (bo3)
Game 5: LB Final (bo5)
Game 6: Grand Final (bo5)

[dusty surge]

Oh, we're not in the LB final.

[forest raven]

Nope

LB final will be Hammers and IMT

[dusty surge]

Got it. Thanks guys

[pine star]

Ew

Fucking disgusting

Love this guy lol

[onyx hull]

rng must be reeeally bad

[waxen gate]

rng threw... they had money on the match

[forest raven]

idk what RNG's problem is

But they're just so inconsistent

[pine star]

They start on fire

Then the fire runs out

Always

[forest raven]

This time there wasn't any internal conflict to ruin their game

[pine star]

That we know of

He almost pulls a Spirit lul

[sour wraith]

mangachu can only carry so much

[onyx hull]

overkill

BRUTAL

[sour wraith]

should have spawncamped

is hammers tier 1 or tier 2 NA?

[pine star]

Tier 1 probably

[forest raven]

In terms of players or org?

[pine star]

Spawncamping

Omg

[sour wraith]

CoL is tier dumpster without harb

players

[forest raven]

Probably on the cusp of tier 1

They haven't played against Fnatic, C9 or IMT yet

[pine star]

^yeah

Or EnVy

[onyx hull]

rip :/

[forest raven]

nV's NA by org

By players they're EU

[balmy wolf]

They are boosted by C9's spirit of the past

[forest raven]

Same for Rogue

EU roster, NA org

LG is an EU roster, NA org

[pine star]

Super is a berserker ._.

[dusty surge]

@balmy wolf This is where the spectator system should switch colors. It gets confusing for me during major team fights.

[onyx hull]

lol rob

[clever wagon]

@balmy wolf see, blue for offense

[balmy wolf]

im watching oscars sry

[pine star]

Oh

Oscars

I completely forgot they were today

[dusty surge]

What does the TJO in the Tork's and Nicolas's name mean?

[onyx hull]

thankx for the reminder i'll see the winners later

[balmy wolf]

so is leonardo dicaprio gonna win another oscar?

[sour wraith]

i think it was a clan or something

[balmy wolf]

Nothing @dusty surge

I dont even think they did it on purpose

Apparently it stands for Total Jerk Off

lul

[dusty surge]

Oh.

[onyx hull]

classy

[forest raven]

This coL looks like a team that beat RNG and Rise

[sour wraith]

whats with overwatch pros and shady pasts with other games

[forest raven]

There's only like three

[pine star]

Team Jose Ole

[clever wagon]

What's the difference between red and white arrow in the kill feed?

[dusty surge]

headshot vs normal shot

[clever wagon]

Aa hm

[sour wraith]

steel and AZK from csgo throwing, the TJO peeps for csgo hacking.

[balmy wolf]

Nice job by Hammers

[forest raven]

steel

[pine star]

"Time to watch my boy Super play past his bedtime"

Lol it's been a while since a copypasta on Twitch chat made me laugh so hard

[balmy wolf]

Steel isnt a pro lol

[sour wraith]

was on Splyce but has gone back to csgo

[balmy wolf]

Babybay and mykL hacked in CSGO though aswell

so 4

5*

[dusty surge]

DIdn't they both get dropped from their teams right after getting signed?

[balmy wolf]

Babybay did

[clever wagon]

Ahh yeah there it is, the Reinhardt matador

[balmy wolf]

So did mykL apparently

[forest raven]

TSM dropped the code7 roster after like a week of being signed

Then coL picked them up

[sour wraith]

lol at almost all of the relevent TF2 pros coming to overwatch while b4nny is still trying to make pro TF2 happen

[clever wagon]

Once got into a phase like that where I just outplayed enemy Reins in comp for several games straight

[pine star]

R E K T

[balmy wolf]

Balanced lol

TSM wouldn't pick up Kungarna because of mykL and Babybay

Being previous hackers

[onyx hull]

wow what was that

[balmy wolf]

They only had 51 seconds so that's wh

y

[onyx hull]

ok

[forest raven]

And then dropped Ajax for a joke he made three months ago when he deleted it in an hour

[pine star]

^that was completely stupid

[clever wagon]

Rip coL

[pine star]

I actually feel bad for Ajax

[sour wraith]

who was the snitch again was it reaver or was it gods

[clever wagon]

TSM and their high moral standards

[forest raven]

Reaver was the butt of the joke

[clever wagon]

Gods

[forest raven]

NGCEO and Gods informed TSM about it

[onyx hull]

thats dumb

[balmy wolf]

Fucking snitches dude

[clever wagon]

Who tf is NGCEO anyway

[balmy wolf]

The CEO of Northern Gaming

[forest raven]

Ajax could very well be signed by NRG @pine star

[pine star]

^yeah

[clever wagon]

What org is Northern Gaming

[pine star]

I hope they pick him up

[onyx hull]

tie?

[sour wraith]

ajax was trialing on NRG and it seems like he will be the lucio for them

[forest raven]

Super got baited so hard

[balmy wolf]

Northern Gaming Red and Blue @clever wagon

[clever wagon]

Super shattering shields???? WHAT IS THIS

Never even heard of them in OW @balmy wolf

[balmy wolf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pine star]

ggs

[forest raven]

rip

[onyx hull]

ok that was close gg

[balmy wolf]

gg

[dusty surge]

Wow

That's too bad

[balmy wolf]

Thank the gods

[forest raven]

Now

For the first time

Hammers v IMT

[pine star]

Super blocks damage? 😮

[balmy wolf]

Teenagers vs teenagers

[pine star]

Match cancelled because they got grounded by their moms

[onyx hull]

where's hex?

nvm

[sour wraith]

Im calling the new NRG line up as iddqd, seagull, dummy, numlocked, nesh and ajax.

with a 5% chance of harb instead of nesh

[pine star]

I still have hope it's gonna be Harb ;-;

[balmy wolf]

Its Harb

Calling it now

Pin this @limber pine

[sour wraith]

how likely is a 7 man roster?

[limber pine]

wut

[balmy wolf]

Pin that pls @limber pine

"Calling it now"

[pine star]

Pineapple pizza

Ewwwww

[balmy wolf]

pineappole

[sour wraith]

is a travesty

[balmy wolf]

thx honey

[sour wraith]

lol did you read what he pinned

[pine star]

LUL

Literally "calling it now"

[sour wraith]

lol

is this a bo3 or bo5

[onyx hull]

wait hype down again?

[balmy wolf]

bo5 i think

[onyx hull]

yes

[forest raven]

Upper and Lower bracket finals and the grand final are bo5

[sour wraith]

ok i have immortals 3-0

[clever wagon]

What

What happened

[forest raven]

Aythen can't play for external reasons it seems

[clever wagon]

Waoh

[onyx hull]

oh

[sour wraith]

so ringer ana.

[dusty surge]

What is this banter?

[sour wraith]

Gale incomming?

[balmy wolf]

they need to stop talking about pizza smh

Who is replacing Aythen

[forest raven]

We don't know

It's Fahzix

[sour wraith]

I want to see gale

[clever wagon]

So finding a sub for Aythen?

[dusty surge]

Why can't these teams stay together for one goddamn tournament?

Srsly.

[pine star]

Emergency

[forest raven]

Aythen didn't leave the team

He has real life shit to deal with

[pine star]

Something personal happened to Aythen

[clever wagon]

I mean, fuck if we know if they have something urgent, right?

[dusty surge]

If he was playing OW like he should be, maybe he wouldn't be having this emergency situation.

[plucky vortex]

did you guys read this? it's rather insightful: https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5wbkay/korean_casters_thoughts_on_last_fridays_match_and/

[forest raven]

Yaes

[onyx hull]

yes

[plucky vortex]

I feel like I don't grasp the depth of tournaments without a good analytical caster going over that

it's mostly just wonky camerawork following people shooting each other, despite a lot of things going on beneath the surface.

[sour wraith]

watch flames vod reviews of the Apec matches

Apex*

[forest raven]

APEX has good spectating

[plucky vortex]

I'm currently in a country where twitch is really slow.

I'll be home in a week

[sour wraith]

its on youtube iirc

[plucky vortex]

and catch up on things

got a link to the channel?

[forest raven]

Flame uploads all his vod analysis videos on youtube

[pine star]

Sinatraa

WHAT

WHAT

[onyx hull]

sinatraa carrying inc?

[balmy wolf]

Sinatraa lmaoo

[pine star]

Who's gonna play Ana then?

[forest raven]

Whhaaat

[onyx hull]

yea i want to know

[pine star]

Oh god, this is not gonna end up well

[sour wraith]

sinatra played for them yesterday as well

[pine star]

But replacing Hyped

[forest raven]

Yeah but Sinatraa is not an Ana player

[onyx hull]

sinatraa confirmed last resort weapon

[balmy wolf]

What the fuck

[sour wraith]

@plucky vortex https://www.youtube.com/user/flame617/videos

[balmy wolf]

Sinatraa on Ana?

[plucky vortex]

thx!

[pine star]

^I don't think so

Probably Hyped on Ana?

[forest raven]

This could seriously fuck with IMT

[pine star]

This is most certainly not gonna end up well

[balmy wolf]

What's taking so long?

[fleet kernel]

they're waiting for the pizza

[sour wraith]

getting a ringer

[onyx hull]

hanamura?

[clever wagon]

SINATRAA SUB???

Holy shit

[pine star]

WHAT

WHAT

[forest raven]

WHAT

[clever wagon]

GRIM ON ZEN

[onyx hull]

grim on zen LOL

[pine star]

OH MY FUCKING GOD WHAT THE HELL IS THIS LUL

[forest raven]

Also the overlay lol

[pine star]

This gun be gud

[sour wraith]

oh god someone is getting rekt by zen

[clever wagon]

Overlay caught me off guard

[onyx hull]

gunyatta inc

[clever wagon]

I was confused when seeing Agilities and Hyped on coL

[balmy wolf]

Why is sinatraa playing for im?

[clever wagon]

https://twitter.com/IMTAythen/status/836020387649478656

[pine star]

OOOOOH

[onyx hull]

he's filling

[plucky vortex]

oh dear

[balmy wolf]

oh...

[sour wraith]

couldnt they literally get any other ana player

[onyx hull]

money problems maybe

[sour wraith]

like Gale

[pine star]

It was also really short notice

[onyx hull]

this is sad 😦

[pine star]

I know

[balmy wolf]

I wonder why he's still playing?

[pine star]

RIP

[clever wagon]

Why Gale anyway

no pro experience

[onyx hull]

grim switched

[pine star]

He got tired of bullshit

[sour wraith]

because they lost their ana

and though no expierience he is an ana opt

[forest raven]

Grim switches and they get first lol

[onyx hull]

soldier is a healer too

[pine star]

lul qp meta

[sour wraith]

so he could likely be a better healer than grim

[forest raven]

On payload soldier can be a legit off healer

But generally the main healer is ana

Not lucio

IMT is playing on quite the handicap, unfortunately

[onyx hull]

dive doesn't work without a good ana imo

or zen

[clever wagon]

They're doing rather well for such a quick sub

First point did look bad

[sour wraith]

i wouldnt mind nomy goint hog

[onyx hull]

would lay off a lot of pressure on the single lucio

[pine star]

Ana confirmed trash

[clever wagon]

Having Sinatraa on his Tracer probably isn't that bad of a trade off

[sour wraith]

thats also true

[forest raven]

They are doing really well for their situation

[sour wraith]

it does help with 3 really good dps

[pine star]

QP meta best meta

[onyx hull]

that was interesting

[sour wraith]

on offense you can heal off cart as well but lets see defence

[onyx hull]

hyped on ana

[balmy wolf]

agilities, grim and sinatraa are carrie machines

[clever wagon]

DON'T NEED HEALS IF YOU KILL THEM FIRST

Dude has a point

[fleet kernel]

as if anyone plays a healer in quickplay...

[sour wraith]

lets be fair if you can aim ana is fairly easy to play

[onyx hull]

picks lucio and flanks

[pine star]

It's not about aiming

It's about game sense

[sour wraith]

i guess dps ana works

[pine star]

Hyped 😮

[sour wraith]

i mean iddqd plays a mean ana

[pine star]

He basically plays older Widow instead of Ana lul

[sour wraith]

he has an alt where he plays mostly ana iirc

[clever wagon]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT DELAY ON NANO

[sour wraith]

either IDCLIP or IDKFA

[clever wagon]

I Don't Know Fuck All?

[sour wraith]

i think so

[forest raven]

It's a cheat code for DOOM

iddqd is like the invincible cheat for DOOM

[pine star]

lul Sinatraa

[balmy wolf]

Sinatraa was on Rise right?

[sour wraith]

yea his idclip account is an ana main account

is on rise

[balmy wolf]

Is he covering?

[sour wraith]

yes

[forest raven]

Sinatraa's on Selfless

[sour wraith]

again

[balmy wolf]

Yeah that's what I meant

zzz

[onyx hull]

grim throwing

[forest raven]

I feel bad for IMT

[onyx hull]

same

[balmy wolf]

Why?

[forest raven]

They're not exactly at 100%

[sour wraith]

2nd day in a row where sinatraa has to ring for them

[clever wagon]

Dorado is supposedly IMT's best map

And now Aythen's not there

[forest raven]

They'd be performing a lot better with Aythen

[pine star]

RIP stream

[sour wraith]

refresh

[balmy wolf]

At least they'll have a break of like 2 days after this

It's gotta be exhausting to play so much

but it's the same for Hammers

[onyx hull]

what will they do next?

[sour wraith]

the main issue is the lack of good ana mains that can ring if needed

[forest raven]

IMT and Hammers have the Carbon series to play in tomorrow

[sour wraith]

rip

[forest raven]

So does coL, LG, Liquid and RNG

[onyx hull]

rip

[pine star]

rip IMT

[forest raven]

[balmy wolf]

Everyone is lagging right?

[forest raven]

I am

[sour wraith]

yes

[pine star]

rip stream also

OH GOD PLEASE NO, FROZEN SLASHER

[dusty surge]

Fuckin manbun

[forest raven]

Powered by Alienware

[fleet kernel]

mfw
https://gyazo.com/5f86bfb7dd48b028d4f5571577ab84df

[balmy wolf]

Get that away from me

[forest raven]

@plucky vortex PIN THAT

[balmy wolf]

I'll have nightmares

[plucky vortex]

I'm not pinning memes

[pine star]

This production

[forest raven]

You're no fun

"Immortals trying to replace the entire tournament"

[onyx hull]

grim on zen again :/

[pine star]

Welp

This is gg already

[onyx hull]

he's charging ult way too slowly

[pine star]

Got tired already

[onyx hull]

same

[pine star]

This is just depressing, omg

[fleet kernel]

tbf attacking this point is the worst

[pine star]

Yeah but still

Amm

Can Sinatraa playing anything that is not Tracer?

I mean, he's a really good Tracer, but c'mon

[balmy wolf]

mccree and soldier

lul

everytime I see him on genji he feeds

[onyx hull]

why is hyped only picking ana on defense

[pine star]

He was on Ana on offense too

[onyx hull]

really? just saw zenreality and lucio

or was he with zen

[pine star]

When Grim switched to Soldier, Hyped switched to Ana

[onyx hull]

ok

sinatraa didnt do much this set

[forest raven]

Sinatraa has about

2 hours of playtime with IMT

[onyx hull]

i know

but he did nice yesterday

[forest raven]

The IMT roster (besides Verbo) has been together since before September

[sour wraith]

yes cause dps is easy

and they had both supports

[onyx hull]

ok

[forest raven]

Sinatraa just doesn't have the same cohesion and chemistry that Aythen does

[sour wraith]

swapping a high level dps for another is less important than a good support

so that is why they had issues

[forest raven]

Ana's the backbone of a team

[sour wraith]

yes

an i guess sinatraa loves overwatch so much that he plays whenever he is needed

[onyx hull]

ha

[sour wraith]

i mean you would think that there is at least 1 tier 1.5-2 ana availible to play

[forest raven]

Well that was quick

[onyx hull]

well 2cp really is about the second point

[sour wraith]

full dive but this next point will take like 8 minutes

[pine star]

facepalm

[balmy wolf]

Holy

IMT getting fucked

rip

Aythen's family member wasn't the only thing to die today

[pine star]

Oh boi

[onyx hull]

there we go

[balmy wolf]

[forest raven]

Jesus Christ Polo

[dusty surge]

Brutal

[pine star]

Savage

[dusty surge]

6 minutes left in the bank

[onyx hull]

i'm glad they did it quick, if they didn't wipe in 1/2 fights it would drag out for the next 8min

[pine star]

4 dps meta

😮

[onyx hull]

lol

[sour wraith]

5 zenyatta is a dos

dps

[pine star]

Super's hero pool

[dusty surge]

What is even happening here.

No one playing defense.

[pine star]

What's a defense?

[sour wraith]

they all hate 2cp so they just make it go by as fsat as possible

[onyx hull]

rip

[balmy wolf]

sometimes you just get steam rolled

nothing you can do about it tbh

[onyx hull]

true 2cp experience

[sour wraith]

i played anubis, hanamura, or eichenvaild in my 10 games today...

was hell

[balmy wolf]

what if i told you i played 8 games of ranked and every game was 2cp

[onyx hull]

i got anubis 2 times in a row once

[dark ridge]

It was...

[onyx hull]

but hanamura is so bad i hate it

[dark ridge]

Why

[sour wraith]

i played torb and rekt face

[dark ridge]

It's pretty good for me

[onyx hull]

idk it's so boring to me

[sour wraith]

Hanamura is either a 5min of overtime loss or a 3 min steam roll

[dark ridge]

Just played in kings row now that's bad

[pine star]

Fuck 2CP tbh

[dark ridge]

Anyone had a favorite espots team

[balmy wolf]

My favourite team has changed a lot

[sour wraith]

NRG or whatever team seagull is on

[forest raven]

So many pumpkins

[pine star]

Q_Q pumpkins everywhere

[balmy wolf]

Envy

[forest raven]

I'm a fan of Misfits and KD Uncia

[pine star]

I don't really have favorite teams

Just favorite players

[onyx hull]

i like lunatic hai

[balmy wolf]

Honestly, my favourite team atm is probably Rogue

[sour wraith]

Also my boy Miro and Ryujehong on LH

[pine star]

Say TviQ, Jehong, Miro, Taimou, Harbleu, Seagull

[forest raven]

I'll probably be a fan of NRG when they complete their roster

[sour wraith]

I wanna see a stream team in one of these small tournies for the luls

[pine star]

^world cup

[onyx hull]

dpsstanky did a meme 6stack once

[balmy wolf]

Hammers will not play on Koth because of sinatraa lul

Moon, Seagull, Stanky, Agilities, Grim and someone else

Miso

[sour wraith]

Moonmoon main tank, Lassiz off tank, Tim/Ster on ana, DSPStanky on Lucio and then Poke and Wraxu on dps

[pine star]

Stanky is a really fucking good Lúcio

I don't know why people shit on him so much

[balmy wolf]

Ster is a better Ana than Tim

@DMcSullivan#2402 Because of his aggressive playstyle

People say he would be great in pro play and then use his "aggressive playstyle" as an argument against it

Even though he could play just like the other pro lucios

[pine star]

There are LOTS of pro aggro Lúcios

[balmy wolf]

But he just doesnt because its ranked

[sour wraith]

lucio or ana is usually to igl

[pine star]

The argument of some people is that he doesn't support his team

[balmy wolf]

Not like Stanky in ranked @DMcSullivan#2402

No pro lucio plays like he does in ranked and thats what people use against him

[pine star]

But what do you need to support your team as Lúcio? Just have people in your aura

[sour wraith]

he can play normal lucio It just isnt as flash

[balmy wolf]

Exactly

[onyx hull]

^

[balmy wolf]

He can play just like all the other pro lucios

Korean World Cup Team vs. Korean All Star Steam https://youtu.be/NEazXEca3Vw

even better than other lucios tbh

[sour wraith]

most pro lucios are the IGL and that is the issue

[balmy wolf]

because he can do DPS as lucio too

[sour wraith]

im not sure he can shot call

[pine star]

^well yeah, that's one thing

He kind of does, for what I've watched on his stream

[sour wraith]

im not sure who would shot call on the Stream team, they could get MonOfSnow I guess

[pine star]

But not sure if it's enough for pro play

[balmy wolf]

He seems like he could easily do it

[sour wraith]

i mean that team would just be for the memes

[balmy wolf]

From what I've watched of his stream

[sour wraith]

so im not sure if it even matters

[balmy wolf]

If the WC this year is another popularity contest then Stanky could easily get on Team USA

[sour wraith]

rip agilities

team usa will be Seagull, Calvin, moonmoon, harbleu, Stanky, and gale

[dusty surge]

Was that a Lucio boop that saved Train?

[balmy wolf]

@sour wraith wbu gods and tales pin?

Moon wont be attending guaranteed

[sour wraith]

where has talespin even gone

[forest raven]

I definitely feel like IMT would have won this series if they had Aythen

[balmy wolf]

I doubt Harb would be either

Not popular enough

[sour wraith]

he has gone off grid afaik

[balmy wolf]

same with Gale

[pine star]

He streamed a while ago

IDDQD hosted him

[balmy wolf]

@sour wraith Still a free agent, just isnt rushing to get a new team and wants to take a break

[onyx hull]

gale is popular

[pine star]

Did his season 3 placements lol

[clever wagon]

OW Popularity vote in 2017

[sour wraith]

its what 4 and then 2 team leaders choice?

[clever wagon]

It comes down to the player knowledge of r/ow and r/cow

LUL

[balmy wolf]

The leaders' choice was basically blizzard's choice last year

[onyx hull]

include wraxu for all the hanzo mains in the world

[forest raven]

They saw Rogue do that defence

But alas

IMT is not Rogue

[pine star]

Wasn't it the one with more votes?

[balmy wolf]

It was with votes lol

[sour wraith]

so its seagull guarenteed

[pine star]

Spawn camp omg

[forest raven]

IMT is giving Hammers their own treatment

[balmy wolf]

Im talking about the Leaders cchoice @DMcSullivan#2402 @balmy wolf

They chose 2 players

[pine star]

Hammer having a little of their own medicine

[balmy wolf]

top 4 were popularity

I know it wasn't blizzards decision

[onyx hull]

grim wtf

[sour wraith]

i think this match is going 5 maps

[forest raven]

Why does Grim have to try and flank all the time

[balmy wolf]

Because soldier

They were called "Leader's choice" but it was just Blizzard with some advice from the Leaders @balmy wolf

Ok didn't know

[onyx hull]

he's their main source of dps, much better with the rest of the team

[sour wraith]

grim and agilities carry

[balmy wolf]

Which is why the two Leaders Picks for USA were Gods

Because he was a teammate of Seagull at the time

And the Mesr was more Blizzards pick

[sour wraith]

and korea will pick the absolute best team

[balmy wolf]

Korea world star team lost against the korea all star team

[sour wraith]

Ryujehong, Miro, Fl0w3r, etc

[balmy wolf]

ngl most of the players on the Korean world cup team should be on the korean all star team

lol

Effects tracer is just insane

[onyx hull]

ehh gg

[forest raven]

Poor IMT

[sour wraith]

oh hammers playing like 10 games in a row lul, rogue is going to take them to pound town

[onyx hull]

anyone else getting secondhand burnout

[clever wagon]

Beating IMT with a sub

[pine star]

lol chat shitting on Sinatraa

[clever wagon]

Oh hey

[pine star]

When he helped to carry

[balmy wolf]

Poor sinatraa

[sour wraith]

@onyx hull nah this isnt as bad as csgo where there is a tourny going on all the time

[clever wagon]

At least Super said something appropriate

[forest raven]

I think with Aythen IMT could have beaten Hammers

[sour wraith]

yea they could have

[onyx hull]

yea

[clever wagon]

JAKE: quad tank is back
Super: sorry about aythen

Welp

[onyx hull]

and back to roasting slasher's manbun

[balmy wolf]

Pineapple slasher

[pine star]

lol

Slasher trashing on pizza with pineapple, yet is cosplaying a pineapple

[onyx hull]

bot town

[balmy wolf]

Rogue 3:0 ez

[onyx hull]

3-1 to me

[balmy wolf]

Gonna say again

Aythen's family member wasn't the only thing to die today

[pine star]

Not cool

[forest raven]

Yeah we get it you made an edgy joke, polo

[balmy wolf]

thx draw

[forest raven]

👍

So c9 has Bishop as a trial coach

[balmy wolf]

Wonder how that will go

Bishop?

[forest raven]

Hopefully well considering his track record

Prior igl for Panthera

[pine star]

Who is he?

[forest raven]

Was an analyst for nV at one point

[pine star]

Oh

No idea

[forest raven]

So he has experience in the Korean scene

[pine star]

I can't wait for Apex to end already tbfh

[balmy wolf]

Can't wait for meta athena v lh

[pine star]

There won't be any major NA LAN events until it ends

Also the big names will come back

[clever wagon]

So APEX playoffs will be all KR

[forest raven]

Well, most likely Fnatic and C9 will be back to NA soon

[pine star]

EnVy will be on playoffs

[forest raven]

APEX semis will most likely be LH, LW, and the KongDoos

Could very well be Athena instead of LW if they really show up

Yeah, nV will be in playoffs

C9 and Fnatic still have the chance to be in playoffs

[pine star]

chance

[forest raven]

Surprisingly enough Reinforce was saying that C9 looked really strong in scrims after their match against AF Blue

Though if it's enough to beat Uncia...

[pine star]

They actually played well against AF

They lost out of stupid ass bronze mistakes

[forest raven]

C9 vs. AF Blue was a match of who can throw harder

[pine star]

All of the ^

[forest raven]

Making stupid ass bronze mistakes means they didn't play well

[balmy wolf]

Gods was a good pick up

Kyky wasn't doing so well tbh

[pine star]

They played well mechanically

But forgot to get on the fucking point lul

[forest raven]

That Lijiang match

[dusty surge]

Well... this is going to be a quick 3-0.

[pine star]

Also the Volskaya match

[forest raven]

The fact that they didn't coordinate someone to sacrifice or even use a cd to keep the point take alive on Volskaya is mind blowing to me

[onyx hull]

rogue so good

[forest raven]

Also Rogue lmao

[balmy wolf]

Rogue taking North America by storm

[forest raven]

It's like

[onyx hull]

lol

[forest raven]

You can focus on two of the three dps

[pine star]

F R E N C H O V E R L O R D S

[forest raven]

And even if you can focus on all three dps

[balmy wolf]

THIS COULD HAVE BEEN THE FRENCH SUPER TEAM IN THE WORLD CUP

[forest raven]

You have Unkoe, Knoxxx and even Winz doing so much

[balmy wolf]

BUT NOOO

YOU HAD TO HAVE STREAMERS

[forest raven]

Dude

We had muselk

[balmy wolf]

But what when there 3 dps comp is not working? Who is going

[forest raven]

And you're not even French

[balmy wolf]

Play rein

[onyx hull]

it just works

[forest raven]

Also aKm's meme Pharah actually works against Hammers

[balmy wolf]

Yeah against tier 2 teams

[forest raven]

o shit Hammers is playing a hitscan to counter a Pharah

[onyx hull]

it will be so funny if akm keeps pharah for a full round

[forest raven]

They held it

LOOOL

[balmy wolf]

Yeah well obviously Ireland wasnt winning anything @forest raven

[forest raven]

lol

[balmy wolf]

I could have played better than they did

[pine star]

He hit a rocket 😮

[onyx hull]

casual mccree kill

[balmy wolf]

Can we just get aKm on McCree and end this quickly

I want to go to sleep

[clever wagon]

Is Rogue all French?

[forest raven]

Yaes

[onyx hull]

they shoudnt encourage akm pharah he will get too excited

[forest raven]

Rogue is a fully French roster and Misfits is a fully Swedish roster

[balmy wolf]

you know the round is dumb when one team starts filtering in 1 by 1

feelsbadman

[clever wagon]

They might as well send the roster as French representative in World Cup

Maybe then FR vs KR in finals

[balmy wolf]

AlphaCast LUL

[forest raven]

Will Hammers take a round 🤔

[clever wagon]

SoOn wtf

[pine star]

O

[onyx hull]

LOL

[pine star]

M

G

[clever wagon]

THROWING

[pine star]

Soon getting killed by a Lúcio

What is this.

[forest raven]

Avast doing his best Kris impression

Why won't aKm play McCree :(

[clever wagon]

Full blast meme for 3-0 WORTH IT

[pine star]

LOLOLOLOLOL

[onyx hull]

lmaooo

[forest raven]

REKT

[onyx hull]

hope someone clipped it

[pine star]

https://clips.twitch.tv/curse/BetterJayAthenaPMS

There you go

[onyx hull]

bless you

[forest raven]

ROGUE

[onyx hull]

brutal

[forest raven]

THEY'RE ONLY CHILDREN

[pine star]

This is RedTube material

[forest raven]

OH MY GOD NICO DIDN'T GET POTG

[balmy wolf]

Wait what

Who got potg

[forest raven]

aKm

[balmy wolf]

ffs akm

[dusty surge]

Akm for plinking people that were jumping off

[forest raven]

lul

[balmy wolf]

Ruining the streak

[clever wagon]

Right, did Friday's matches get pinned yet?

Better yet put it in the channel description right next to the channel banner

[forest raven]

Can't wait for Rogue to play a team that can adequately deal with their dive

I like how Carbon is before APEX in the description

[balmy wolf]

I'm only getting the Carbon matches pinned

http://i.imgur.com/ZMEVfsV.png

This weeks matches btw

[forest raven]

Noice

[balmy wolf]

First match in 21 hours

[forest raven]

Can't wait for IMT at 100% vs. Hammers

Hopefully

[balmy wolf]

Idk if Aythen will be back after a day

[forest raven]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

Usually people take a few days off work/school when theres a death in the family

[forest raven]

Mhm

[onyx hull]

imt will have more time to find a sub

[pine star]

^

[onyx hull]

instead of like 15 minutes

[forest raven]

Also they got nanoblade, primal rage, visor, and 2 pulse bombs before the archway

[balmy wolf]

What free agents are there that play Ana though

I'm pretty sure all free agents atm are DPS and Tank/Off tank players

[forest raven]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

theres some tier 2 anas that are free agent

[clever wagon]

That pulse bomb was exactly like how I play Tracer in QP

And I meant I suck

[pine star]

lol

Soon failing pulso bombs gives me hope

[onyx hull]

not one of soons best but he gets ult fast

[forest raven]

SoOn got 2 pulse bombs before archway

[balmy wolf]

The free agents that come to mind are Skipjack, Talepsin, Jkw, Pookz, Art1er and Draceus

[forest raven]

Hammers actually got a point

[pine star]

lol C9 became such a meme

Ok

[onyx hull]

is sinatraa a free agent tho

[pine star]

So

[balmy wolf]

No @onyx hull

[pine star]

Hammers made a huge mistake

[balmy wolf]

He plays for Selfless

[pine star]

They killed Unkoe

And he came back as Zen

[balmy wolf]

Also all the players on Rly Cool Guys and Ninjas with Attitude I guess are also free agents

[onyx hull]

wow nice hold

[forest raven]

Why does Unkoe switch off to Zen after dying as Ana

[onyx hull]

cuz he want blood

[balmy wolf]

Oh yeah and the remaining Slav Squad/ANOX players

[pine star]

He's a blood thirsty support

[forest raven]

Hammers got 2nd point

[balmy wolf]

And Mousesports and Penta

because if he dies on ana when they're holding like that, the discord when he gets back makes it easier to snowball it

So many free players

[forest raven]

Hammers is snowballing it

[pine star]

Oh god

[onyx hull]

yeah

[pine star]

Rogue can bleed

Look at that

[forest raven]

Will Hammers force Rogue to switch off the dive

THIS SERIES JUST GOT INTERESTING BOYS

[dusty surge]

Holy hell

[pine star]

THEY DID IT

[dusty surge]

Is that the furthest any team has gotten against Rogue?

[pine star]

Yeah lol

[forest raven]

First time a team has completed a map against Rogue

[balmy wolf]

Nice

[pine star]

And they haven't even won lol

[onyx hull]

i think the rein pick is what breaked them

also hog. not too much free space

[pine star]

Quad tank confirmed Rogue's counter

[balmy wolf]

Who is the rein player for rogue?

[pine star]

Knoxxx?

[balmy wolf]

wait

[forest raven]

Will half of Rogue ever switch off the one hero they've been playing the entire time

[balmy wolf]

Rogue dropped a round?

[forest raven]

Yaes

[balmy wolf]

[forest raven]

Throughout last half of 2nd and all of 3rd Rogue got like three kills

[balmy wolf]

First Nico doesnt get POTG

and now they lose a round

[pine star]

aKm throwing

[clever wagon]

aKm back on memeing with Pharah

[balmy wolf]

its all coming down boys

[onyx hull]

😦

[balmy wolf]

Well yknow

I will see them switch heroes

[forest raven]

WILL HAMMERS FORCE HERO SWITCHING

[balmy wolf]

they did good

Like what

10 rounds won 1 round lost?

Pretty good

[onyx hull]

not loading here

ok akm died

[pine star]

R E K T !

[balmy wolf]

Rip Nico

[forest raven]

Rogue is playing their 13th game and this is the first time they've dropped 1 round, I believe

[pine star]

round

Not even a map

A ROUND

[forest raven]

Might have dropped one or two rounds of koth

[balmy wolf]

13?

Dang dude

13 games thats

like

a lot of rounds

[forest raven]

Unkoe and Nico have been dying a lot

[balmy wolf]

LOL

The solo ult on the monkey

[forest raven]

Honestly surprised Rogue hasn't switched anything yet

[pine star]

^they probably won't

[balmy wolf]

If Knoxx jumped back into courthouse

he would have lived

Yeah because there confident as fuck

[pine star]

Only aKm probably

[forest raven]

This map, this map right here is what I was talking about eariler

When a team can deal with Rogue's dive

What will they do

[balmy wolf]

Hammers arent dealing with Rogue's dive lol

[clever wagon]

LUL

[pine star]

Yeah

[dusty surge]

They're literally just tanking the dive

[balmy wolf]

aKm just wasnt switching pharah

Wit aKm on Pharah its 5v6 so

Of course they cant push

Could bet they will not switch

[onyx hull]

what is happening can't load shit here

[clever wagon]

aKm switched to S76 in THE LAST 40 SEC

ggs

[dusty surge]

There it is

[balmy wolf]

Dude

[pine star]

Hammers

They did it

Omg

[balmy wolf]

Rogue throwing

[forest raven]

You say Hammers aren't dealing with Rogue's dive 🤔

[dusty surge]

Quad tank meta confirmed s4

[balmy wolf]

I mean Winson/genji/tracer

no

lol

[onyx hull]

if akm was on pharah it was 5v6

[balmy wolf]

Why did aKm throw

meta wont be 4 tanks lol

[clever wagon]

aKm memeing with Pharah until the last 40 seconds tbh

[pine star]

That's why Genji was no meta last patch

[balmy wolf]

[pine star]

To much tanks to slice

[forest raven]

That looked like a good dealing with to me

[balmy wolf]

If he switched to 76 1 minute earlier

They would have had 2nd

smh

[pine star]

Hammers hype

[balmy wolf]

Why does aKm keep playing Pharah

It never works

[forest raven]

ROGUE V ROGUE

[pine star]

I bet they're forcing him to

Oh god

Rogue look so fucking lost

LUL

[onyx hull]

ow man rip 😦

[balmy wolf]

Rip rogue

Reaper?

dang rogue

[onyx hull]

how did nico not die

wow

[balmy wolf]

aKm on Reaper

Finally

[onyx hull]

anything is better than more meme pharah

[forest raven]

Seems to be working

[onyx hull]

dream team

[dusty surge]

Same setup.

lol

[pine star]

Hammers forced Nico off Genji 😮

[onyx hull]

lul

[forest raven]

HAMMERS FORCED A HERO SWITCH

NICO IS PLAYING A DIFFERENT HERO

[pine star]

Dat sleep dart 😮

[onyx hull]

what...

[forest raven]

Hammers reverse swept

Will SoOn and Knoxxx ever change 🤔

[clever wagon]

Rogue seems to just trickle now

[balmy wolf]

HAMMER!

[forest raven]

If Rogue continues like this

[onyx hull]

hammer time

[forest raven]

Knoxxx is still playing Winston into four tanks

[balmy wolf]

Nico gengu again

[clever wagon]

This is final?

[forest raven]

Yaes

[dusty surge]

Yeha

[forest raven]

They're not dealing with Rogue's dive 🤔 Why do they need versatility to be a good team 🤔

[balmy wolf]

Nico back on Genji

Good good

Hammers really aren't doing anything about Unkoe

His discords are winning this game for Rogue

[onyx hull]

discord orb is the real mvp

[dusty surge]

Jake was trying to, but he was sitting back too far that round.

Looks like Hammers is done.

[forest raven]

I don't like the fact that Rogue begins to falter when Nico switches off Genji

[dusty surge]

lol 1 hp

[onyx hull]

nico/unkoe discord orb combo 👌 👌 👌

[balmy wolf]

Bo3 really?

bo5

[onyx hull]

gg we did get to see rogue switching

[quasi python]

can u share the channel ??

[balmy wolf]

Its over anyway

[onyx hull]

it's pinned up

^

[balmy wolf]

Dang Slasher really hates NA

[pine star]

European overlords lol

Slasher shots

[forest raven]

The fact that Rogue managed to (eventually) deal with 4 tanks while keeping Winston, Tracer and switching back to Genji is a testament to their skill, but their versatility is still in question

[balmy wolf]

Well Hammers was the only team to take a map and round against this entire tourney

against Rogue

[pine star]

O M G

BASTION META

[quasi python]

bracket link?

[clever wagon]

Fuck

[forest raven]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Alienware_Monthly_Melee/2017/February

[onyx hull]

OHHH THATS WHY MY NET IS SO BAD

[pine star]

O'right guys

[balmy wolf]

I actually cant wait to watch new coL tomorrow

[pine star]

Gotta work tomorrow

C'ya all

[balmy wolf]

Later

[forest raven]

Catch ya

[solid spear]

Cya fam

[balmy wolf]

Cya

[onyx hull]

i'm going too, g'night everyone 😃

[solid spear]

G9

[quasi python]

so rogue play quad tank? meh

[forest raven]

What

Rogue played dive the entire tourney

[solid spear]

Rogue never played more than 2 tanks

[forest raven]

SoOn and Knoxxx played one hero the entire time and NiCO played about three minutes of Zarya

[balmy wolf]

I have a feeling Knoxxx can't play any tank other than Winston

[forest raven]

If that's the case Rogue is screwed

[balmy wolf]

They really need a Skipjack right about now lol

This is so dumb

knoxxx isnt even known for his monkey, hes just playing it alot

He isnt, he is known for his Lucio

Winz is their off tank but is now on lucio instead

[forest raven]

Rogue won through their superior mechanical skill

[balmy wolf]

In all honesty, their team comp makes no sense

yes it does

[forest raven]

When they face a team of comparable skill, what are they gonna do with their Winston, Genji and Tracer when the other team runs quad tank like Hammers did

[balmy wolf]

Winz is a good Lucio, but he is a better and more versatile off tank than Knoxxx is

doesnt matter because bastion

[quasi python]

immortals lose wut happen ?

[balmy wolf]

And vice versa, knoxxx is a better lucio

[solid spear]

Bastion shudders

Tomorrow is a scary day

[balmy wolf]

I just can't comprehend the role changes

We'll just have to see I guess

Nico's Zarya didn't look too convincing though

for the small amount of time he played it

definitely not on Winz' level

they're playing their strengths, sometimes you just have to play a bit different but you dont always needs to switch

[forest raven]

I feel like Misfits, nV, maybe even C9 could take them on pretty well

[quasi python]

why grim play support

[solid spear]

Even if they switch Winz back

The lack of a good Rein is somewhat concerning

[balmy wolf]

I remember when rise kept trying to play 4 tank at mlg and it wasn't working because it wasn't their strength, they switched back and did better

sometimes its just how it is

"they're playing their strengths"

No they aren't lmao

If that were true, wins would be off tank and knoxxx would be Lucio

NiP would destroy rogue

[quasi python]

i know sinatra tracer good, but they still need mccree

[balmy wolf]

Who?

[quasi python]

not genji

[solid spear]

Huh?

[balmy wolf]

IMT?

IMT have Grim

[solid spear]

Grim exists

[balmy wolf]

.-.

teams have reasons for why they move people into roles, knoxxx probably feels better on monkey than anything and even if they decide to switch to different comps its not that hard since they both know the role

[quasi python]

lol i watch rerun imm vs hammer

[solid spear]

Sinatra is a fill in

[balmy wolf]

A family member of Aythens died

So he had to leave

Sinatraa filled

And he's a DPS

So they had 3 DPS

No Ana

Honestly lost them that set

[quasi python]

ouh, thats why

[forest raven]

I hope Rogue didn't switch up their comp in the AMM because they were confident in their own mechanical skill, but they do have other comps they can switch to when the need inevitably arises

Because if not, teams are gonna be able to read them like an open book, much like Athena and nV

[balmy wolf]

Rogue's problem is similar to Envy's in that they are both lacking deep hero pools

[forest raven]

Yeah, exactly

[balmy wolf]

They have the hitscan DPS role split between two people, then they have their "projectile DPS" that only plays Genji so one of their hitscan players has to play Pharah, then their "off tank" only plays Winston and they have no main tank

In a nutshell, Rogue's new roster is tailor made for Dive Comp