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I mean I don't need in depth.
But sometimes Sty says the same thing in 8 different ways.
And i feel cheated out of my 3 minutes.
When everyone was Sombra?
Yeah
Yeah those were funny
He was the first one to stream ever
And Muselk's squad just sabotaged his stream in the stage
Fun stuff
I only watch Muselk from time to time
The other ones I don't watch
Specially Zylbrad, he's so obnoxious
But Muselk sometimes lands some fun memes
^yeah
I've not watched any of his content later tho
He's videos are each time longer
I ain't watching 25 minute memes
i feel like it's a youtube thing
Yeah, they get more money for mid-vid ads
And then EACH OF THEM
cut it and posts it
From different point of views
Over like tons of games
So the videos are long
Which is the main reason I only watch him and none of the others
such a stretch, i want to see imt stomp end with a bang already
Hyped got his mic from the same place Slasher got his
lmao
I'm super confused
IS he subbing for IMT?
Technical difficulties, yeah
he's filling
He's listed up there
That's why i'm confused
Hyped's PC is fucked apparently
yeah
I think he's subbing for someone
Well I'm confused af now too
Only way to make sense
Gotcha
Oh god
It's true
And Sinatraa is really fuckin good
hahaha
#BringSoOnBack
But he doesn't have the team cohesion with IMT that Hyped does
True
Yeh I bet
ye
That IMT roster is an old one
SoON made me almost not hate Tracer for being a monster.
Grim is just golden to watch
Grim vs. aKm I can't wait โค
RIP my internet
Sinatraa vs SoOn inc
you just can't let him unchecked
Well Hyped will be back by the time IMT and Rogue play against each other
Ignoring Grim LUL
I think it's because he doesn't do as flashy. He does his job consistantly
People like fancyness
If you want a textbook example of focusing the consistent dps player, watch Meta Athena vs. EnVyUS
They abused Harryhook
^
That Widow from Taimou though
Gave me nightmares of pre critical damage nerf widow
Taimou tilted into a blackhole lmao
harry was carrying
Oh
taimou on hog was terrible
After that Hollywood match, Taimou played horrendously
So I figured out why my internet is shit
Dude needs to stop being a shithead
rekt
Shithead?
From urban dictionary: "A complete dumbass; a genuine moron. Someone who has committed an act in which causes harm or temporary discomfort to another."
It's another term for "dickhead" and such
LOL THIS FIGHT
LMAO
Dancing Soldiers
I don't know him personnality so not sure about his personnality
I just watch Mendo v0v
Mendo footsies are best footsies
Last season of APEX Taimou remarked that he'd like to explore the thighs of a Korean reporter
He's consistently shown poor behaviour
lol zen new genji counter?
You could really tell Taimou was tilting hardcore against Athena
his play was really inconsistent but i'd blame their loss on lack of/bad zarya plays
also small hero pool ofc
They need a reliable hitscan
no one could tracer or genji
They lost their dive potential when Talespin left
Yeah
That was a nice summary from Tajun
Also Rise is kinda doing okay against IMT
Also SoOn plays at 400DPI 18Sense
๐
But he doesn't move much
thats crazy
Rise has been looking good
Rise has actually improved
i have a friend that plays soldier with 35 ingame sens and 1200 mouse dpi
It makes me really glad, because they have been absolute shit all this time
Don't think so
Lmao my sens was crazy high like 800 16 when i started
schedule is at the bottom of twitch page
VAC
grim bathing in blood
Rise isn't getting spawn camped so I'm happy
^
They're putting up a good fight
It was 3-0
But was a close 3-0
If that makes sense
not like luminosity LUL
Lulminosity
What happened to LG?
was bad
Who spanked them?
hidan in special he's great
Hidan is a top tier Ana
Hidan's a worldclass Zen
That too
I've only seen Spree in SoloQ just didn't think he would do bad
he was ok but subpar on pharah
Yeah he recently started playing her more.
I think a lot of teams are facing hero pool issues in the west like Tajun said
Yeah
Rogue is the one team in the tournament I've seen have more flexibility
We're in the flex meta
no meta meta
Like DPS just need the most versibility
tbf Rogue so far has only played dive
^
i would like to see how anyone would check them
Most likely they won't swap from Dive this whole tournament no matter what cause it works.
their tracer/genji are great together
And AKM has a decent pool
I like the no Ana/no Rein games
Not all at the same level but he rolls a 20 for every pop off rolls
Unkoe is also superb
Funniest for me is how SoOn doesn't give a shit about no graviton
Just pulse bombs 18 people casual
just hope akm let go of pharah... so bad.
He had on good round
SoOn barely misses a pulse bomb
It's funny because
He goes to the target
And just stops for lik,e 18 seconds
Before throwing
So casual lmao
When Rogue 2.0 pulls out the 2-2-2 and the triple tank and still perform well, that's when they'll really show their power as a team
Idk what happened to RNG tho
Did they recently change players?
O feel like some names are missing
They had manOFsnow as a sub, then Kyb
killing grim... they are finally evolving
^smart decision
And then Sinatraa and Agilities kill everyone
lmao
I feel like they're just gonna keep trying out DPS
Yeah but if they don't focus Grim, he faks all
Yeah
Grim's getting the good ol' Harry treatment
Triple DPS too strong
grim turned into the team's bait lol
I can't wait for ranked to turn into Winston only for Tank and Off tank players
So excited.
/wrist
Is ZP drunk?
Reinhardt overrated lul
LOL
"Why are you tanking and not winston"
"Sorry I can't play winston"
"We need a winston"
"we need a winston here"
"no winston gg"
It's so fun to be a tank player
They subbed in kyb for some of the WP
How many more matches are to be played tonight?
just this one i think
Map awareness 
HOLY SHIT
Yeah this is the last streamed match tonight
IMT are the OT kings
there is still some matches to be played off stream
Poor Grim lol
Rise isn't tier 4 anymore feelsgood
bait simulator
whats with all the winstons all of a sudden
Everyone is running dive
huh
I for one, gotta get going on my Winston game
I'm a Zarya player lol
is dive the meta or like
Yeah, same lol
They started playing a lot more 2/2/2 once Dva got nerf'ed
It's slowly progressed into 3/1/2
Which now allows people to also forsake Ana for Zen or something else
It will end up on 4-0-2
4tank most boring meta
I just wanna be able to play most tanks not mainly as the whole team.
4 dps, no tank lol
winston wrecks 4dps
^depends
Usually KR runs it 2/2/2 still
Even during Apex
Cause Zarya turns into a dps anyway
I'm just curious on how the meta will shape out with the Bastion buff
rise's tracer is pretty good
Configuration nanotank meta ๐ฎ
"we need a bastion in case they have a pharah"
No recoil, no fall off damage machine gun
Killing pharahs and d.vas
He can currently outheal himself over Genji's ult
So more sustain
Apparently pro pugs in the PTR have teams just revolving their entire comps around Bastion
And it comes down to which team has the better Bastion
Gale was playing the other day
He nano-visored turret bastion
Almost got outhealed
His team helped finish it
It will be like the early days of the Genji meta all over again
i do think defense matrix is the answer to a future bastion meta
Or the beyblade meta
Like
5 professional players babysitting a Bastion lol
He's S76 with better selfsustain and no fall damage and recoil
Doesn't Bastion 2.0 have an uninterruptable, 75hp/s heal now?
at least soldier can headshot
So can bastion in sentry mode
So can Bastion
Sombra is the answer to the Bastion meta
Which is almost the same dps as bastion gun
More consistently mind you
this is bad lol
Sombra pulls Bastion out of sentry mode with hack
If Blizzo keeps Bastion's changes
^doesn't matter
Pro games will probably be nothing like they are now
He's a beast on recon mode
i think they should slow bastion's speed while hes healing himself
i mean while walking
Yeah
76 > Bastion recon
Like Reinhardt when he has his shield up
or dva firing
I actually think his resistance on sentry mode is ridiculous
In tank mode I don't main
turret mode ya
30-35% forget which
close
Rise lost Lijiang by one teamfight
I talked some shit about Rise earlier
So did I lmao
they learn really quick
imt won
Damn so close
Rise gave them a run for their money
With how they played against IMT, I'd say they're better than coL, LG and FaZe
If they don't win online, they'll never qualify for lans
LUL
So tomorrow Rogue vs. Rise, FaZe vs. IMT
FaZe finished in the top 2 lmao
Rise 2-0'd coL
No real surprise tbh
also reminder https://clips.twitch.tv/curse/TenderOkapiHeyGuys
LIVE: Rogue vs Hammers - Overwatch Monthly Melee - Casted By @TempoZP, @Hexagrams, @Slasher - Clipped by polo__bear
He just walked onto it lmao
It was like stepping on a mine lol
i'm going to bed, good night everyone, until tomorrow โ
Catch ya
Cya, have a good night
lul
Who even
Awwwww
Reinforce and Miro bffs
Don't mind me, just digging up some of the KR players' twitters and being stalker-y
Slightly
Just a little bit
Didn't see the tweet date, but Reinforce has a rounder face in that. APEX S1?
not esports related though ๐
Video on how grego became a pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky9NG0GVqXw
Talespin is such a great guy
So that's what Reinforce meant when he said "I'm coming for you, Miro"
kek
Is that Buds in the video @2:50?
yee
What talespin did? Cant watch video rn
Gave Grego a key for the beta
and also helped him a bit in shootmania iirc
but he is the reason why grego is pro now
Ok ty
Read all the reply
Timo is pretty angry lol
"no one is scary excpet LH"
๐ค
AuTSM would kick him istantly
REEEEEEEKT!!
New announcements? Or are those the same as last week's?
I have no idea, but the article came up for me just now
Taimou needs to turn it down a bit
Taimou has a bit of an issue concerning his lack of a filter
"bit"
He's one of the biggest trash talkers in professional Overwatch lol
Thank god he's actually really fucking good
inb4 patch mid tournament and it massively favors EnVy and they end up winning again
Lol, his ridiculous skill is literally the only reason why he's still on EnvyUs
iirc he got kicked from IDDQD back in the beta
but they took him back in or something, lul
it was a LoL booth
I know
they just threw the 6th chair behind
what's the go to twitch channel to be following nowadays to see pro matches?
multiple because multiple tournaments, kek
Yeah
figures
ogn is every tuesday and friday
ESL, Gosu, OGN
Oh yeah, Curse
btw veex, meta is cool again
this may be the best meta yet, tbh
everything seems viable
it'd be cool if they hosted each other rather than streaming reruns
like they'd give views to their competitors, lul
oh fuck, don't remind me of the new bastion
urgh
BASTION META INCOMING BOIS
I can't wait for new bastion
NANOBASTION
Get ready for some nanotanks
UNKILLABLE NANOBASTION
It's gonna be stupid in a fun way
Seagull is gonna love it
^
Professional esports
Dumb looking robot character starts singing charge
6 professional players run and hide
Doea anyone know if all players from faze are living in usa?
I mean, wasn't that nanoaimbot already
Does*
@devout topaz they are not
:(
Shadowburn are still in russia?
The moment when configuration tank actually takes more skill
the biggest problem with tact visor is that it was a balanced ult already before they buffed soldier's damage
50% of the team are not in the US @devout topaz
pretty sure that sdb is still in the motherland
THE MOTHALAND
With 1832ms of ping
most consistent team NA
Mikeya in Wales, SDB in Russia and Forsaken in Latvia
It's why I could never take FaZe online results seriously, tbh
They org really needs to bring they to us :/
I wish I could watch pro OW just to enjoy the show, but I just can't follow competitive events if I don't have someone to root for, I can't help it
And honestly, all OW pro teams are samey
When in doubt, root for NRG
just watch a team and see whose playstyle you like
yeah, if only NRG were relevant
They will be
I root for nrg, envyus and lh
hope so
They are
arguably the team with the most versatile hero pool
But i don't like reinforce's rein
Lottoforce*
^
He is
but yeah, reinforce synergized better with rogue
they moved in with his agression and kinda played around it
lol Chipshajen playing some qp on stream rn
Yes
basically, he'd create miles of space which allowed TviQ and aKm to clean up
Chips โค
oh, and veex, NiP is also a pretty cool team
Chips playing Sombra :I
admittedly, they are the reason why the tank meta exists
but they play an extremely agressive style
Fuck NiP then
I don't hold it against them honestly
I'd much rather blame those who follow the meta than those who create it
The only rein's i like are cocco and mesr
When NiP created the tank meta, it was revolutionary
Super's rein ๐๐ป
Super is a fucking raid boss
Fragi's rein is ๐ too
he's like a rabid dog
like, if Reinforce is agressive
then Fragi is a satanic beast, lul
Panzer
Oh
I really like Nomy's rein too
I forgot panzer'a rein
Panzer is THE Rein
It is
Who's that?
Korean Rein
I'm watching some OW Open VODs
There was no such thing as ult management lol, they charged so ridiculously fast
as a ~2500 newfriend I am surprised how fast some players can get ults
they all appear out of nowhere and then the rest of the game is 'how few can we blow at once to not lose this fight'
Yeah
Back then you could almost consistently get gravitons each fight
And 2 or 3 pulse bombs per fight lol
I think that ult charge nerf really helped the game
hi guys
Hiya
One could argue Soldier is better because suppressive fire
Also deadeye is not that good in close quarters
Does anyone have a screenshot of the group results of the AMM? It's broken on Gossss
http://i.imgur.com/zllDjFj.png @balmy wolf
@balmy wolf thank so much
No problem
Polo is always there to help cute anime girls

Katou Megumi is very cute
I love her >_>
She looks like a generic anime girl
That's the point
Yes
Hey now, I didn't want no weeb lecture
Also, Faze getting in the winners bracket with a negative record lol
lmao
lul
Thats just how bad Group A was
group A was the NA version of group B
Sojum traumatized with Apex' group B lul
^

What a glorious photo of TviQ
he pretty much never goes Zarya anymore
Yeah but he was on D.Va the other day
And his tracking looked atrocious
Guess he's out of shape
according to Thighmou nV was completely out of shape and was at their worst that day, lul
would explain some of their very un-nV like decisions
We need another tournament with the production value of OW Open
we need another tournament with all of that talent at the same time
Yeah
I want more Ster casting pls
like, we need ZP, Uber, Hex, Kaplan, Flame, Ster and Seltzer + Soe (because cute) at some point
Seltzer was at MLG
Besides that
Yeah, I remember that
She is impossibly cute
Too adorable

mfw sprite doesn't pin what's important 
Pls pin Soe pics
^
busy af?
Horizon Zero Dawn + Nier Automata
ahh, I won't have the money for Nier :/
mrw no pc demo ๐
it's not?
oh you mean that
it's coming to pc too
was announced as a ps4 game (not an exclusive though) and was later said to be coming to pc
2B is bae
Somebody posted the thoughts of one of the Korean casters on last Friday's APEX matches. I thought it was a pretty good read!
https://redd.it/5wbkay
Haha yeah
#PrayForMickie
OW needs another projectile hero
It's only Pharah and Genji tbh
Oh and Hanzo
But yeah
And Mei
we lack consistent projectile dps
Still
that's what he means
the only true projectile dps are pharah and genji
the rest are kinda unusual
Most of them are either non consistent or not dps
Well we're not going to be getting another offense hero for a while methinks so
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Are flat out non meta
Yeah, I think the same
We'll be getting probably another tank and another support next
I want a replacement for Rein
one of the main reasons why I hate playing support is because of how little I can swap/do to react, tbh
same
just roll with the op support of the season and everything is fine
Hahaha
@toxic yacht Soe ๐๐๐๐๐
hngggg
You made my day better
AllKillMissed
btw, did you go to sleep before or after Rogue vs RNG?
Yep, saw them btw
ahh, good
Yeah, I'm surprised that they won something, lul
XD
they already put the timer for rogue vs rise wow
Hammer fucking disappoint me
they were the ones that got wrecked by a pharah right
lol, they just did nothing
But wtf
Rogue vs Mangachu's pharah was ๐ though
yea didnt even try
it was hilarious to watch mangachu try to run pharah into fucking aKm
like, who thinks they can play pharah vs aKm?
lol
he was soo stubborn to change lol
yeah, he tilted
kept getting two shotted
Manga tilted?
he refused to swap off pharah although he was doing nothing
and kept trying to force her during other koth rounds
like, at one point
aKm literally killed the pharah + mercy
Hammer strat
wait did i miss smth today?
Never switch
no, yesterday
okay
I'm just laughing at manga
there was a moment where akm tried to run his discount pharah against mangachu's pharah at the beginning of a match. akm died to mangachu and switched instantly to mccree
He seemed pretty stubborn to stay on Junk and Pharah
He did pop off one game
aKm pharah vs Mangachu pharah would have been hilarious
luckily for rogue he swapped
he did nothing outside of ults on pharah
tbh
every time he got kills it was using barrage
He'll learn her eventually
well, he's been trying pharah since october back when tviq was still there
a relatively decent amount of time has passed
I feel like he doesn't have the practice on her really.
Rogue looked like they basically spammed dive comp minus pharah
Til game day
they mostly ran the c9 comp
Go quake and become a pharah God
dive with 76
Clown9
Iono I think he's gonna end up like ESCA
He'll get flack and pop off on something else.
I think they played worst again Faze
It felt like they were learning to actually play Dive on stage
And finding their footing
if that was underperforming i wanna see what they think is their best
I feel like most teams will consider themselves underperfoming if it's not a stomp.
Since they all practice to stomp.
it's kinda hard to stomp when the roster is full of great players
Fucking SoOn and Emongg share sensitivity
spawncamping is so annoying
but that was funny as fuck
I kinda found the spawn camp funny too for a bit
It's in the realm of mind blown
D.Va stagger is kinda like "Oh hey lemme kick this puppy"
Now to watch LG v Rise
i don't even remember what happened on that one
Iono everyone told me LG did bad yesterday makes me a bit sad
yeah they did
I know Spree has been practicing Pharah but I don't think it's good for competitive
oh yea he played super passive
got great chances at the enemys backline and did fuck all
shame
Just feels like a lot of the teams aren't used to Dive and just testing it there
Like a lot of the DPS just seem to not have gotten back onto the flank game with Tracer/Genji. Since it's been the Soldier meta for so long.
Like Eissfeldt felt a bit lost at times
i just hope the increase of dive comps doesnt leak on soloq. i prefer a subpar soldier to a subpar tracer/genji
It probably will people love playing what's on screen. People will just complain about you playing Rein instead of winston too.
Life of Tank players
i'll just sit on my comfy zarya spot
"Zarya can't dive"
"Get off Zarya"
"We need a Winston"
"I can't really play Winston"
"We would have won if we had a Winston but Zarya trolled"
.@B1shopOW, trial coach of C9, joins @MonteCristo for Ep 6 of OverSight. Airs Monday at 8pm EST/5pm PST. https://t.co/dKRAAdApOz
it's my soloq life already because i can't rein at all
My Rein is just right over Trash
like. my game sense just melts if i pick rein
So I guess I'm op
Clown9 trialing new coach
whats c9 doing these days
Clowning around
I think they're in KR until APEX ends
Mendo visits Top 500 pug discord often on his phone
Said they're still there for a bit
livin the dream
They still not out right?
Thought they were?
Nope iirc
Oh they have to play
I mean... Kinda
Cuz they will get stomped
C and D still got to go
There is no way C9 is beating Kongdoo Uncia
I think fnatic can win
Runaway doesn't bootcamp
Cuz poor
So im fairly sure they will succeed
I've only seen evermore's KD play
Panthera
Ya
Rascal Somba <3
15 min to rogue vs rise
I'm surprised though that Mickie still plays D.Va so often
Can Taimou or Harry play Tracer/Genji at all6?
No
Riiipp
That was Tale's job
they would if they could
Both hitscan
Is Tale's done with pro scene?
they already lost because of it
Yep
Well the brackets is more because I guess she doesn't play like Traditional hitscan heroes people reffer too
was kinda bad
Hoon was 80
Ouch
those gravitons were terrible
I feel like he's played too much D.Va. He just seems iffy on everything else right now
Like out of rpactice
I am interested in seeng NRG though.
He was playing Reaper on stream today and kept getting 1 shot by a hanzo ๐
In some of Dummy's recent scrim footage looks like Ajax was playing with them
NRG are always good on paper and terrible when playing
what are good flex players that excel at both hitscan and projectile?
So dunno
Yeh I'm just interested not hyped
Tviq
true
surefour and mendo too
I am not opposed to joining another team but I am also not in a rush.```
or whatever the fuck he thinks is cool
nanohana is scary
Thats the last we've heard from Talespin
Yeah he is very quiet on Twitter
Cuz got fired
maybe he's just chilling
That was like 3 and a half months ago when he posted that Twitlonger
So maybe he has quit, maybe he hasn't
I think he's just chilling
I wanna see E-Home KR play more frankly.
I wanna see grego and Tale on the same team
Yeah, he said he wants to take a break and that he isn't in a rush
Same
Maybe we'll see him jump back in when the OWL starts up
hopefully
he's pretty darn good at dpsing
OR at least not making too much noise
and it'd be a shame to lose him
I remember
superb OWL 
LG vs nV
Couple months ago
I cant wait for NRG to come back aswell
That was before NRG changed support Mercy
Seagull is one of the best Pharah players
For like the 18th time
it always came down to those two

Forget who the support was
then tale spanked seagull
Esper was their support in the Mercy Meta
Then they kicked him because he could only play Mercy
esper, then indust
And Mercy was trash
lul
They got hit hard and people praised adam and how Esper was so bad
He got flammed so hard
indust was still there during the mercy meta
And replaced
indust was replaced after zen became stronk
yep
indust was a fill from just before they left LG and then Dummy joined with them signing to NRG
Maybe more
RNG is a complete mess rn
They trialed Sypeh at one point
there is a reason why ManOfSnow left
Sypeh is a beast
he actually said that the management has no idea what they are doing




