esports-discussion

[tawdry quartz]

lol

[toxic yacht]

aKm's pharah is the next big meme

[pine star]

I'd clip the shit out of that faceoff and save it to my phone

"Nature calls"

[toxic yacht]

lul

I wish winz could just pick up rein

:/

so that knoxxx can go lucio again

[pine star]

Why tho?

Knoxxx is a good tank

[toxic yacht]

knoxxx is pretty darn good on lucio

[pine star]

Oh well, yeah

[dusty surge]

That was real!?

[pine star]

LOL THE CHAT IN GAME

[dusty surge]

lol

[toxic yacht]

lmao

the chat

"It ws hard to push out"

"like a rock"

[pine star]

LOOOOOOOOL

[dusty surge]

This is why professional tournaments disable chat. :D

[toxic yacht]

"slide out very easily"

[pine star]

lmfao

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[pine star]

Ayyyy

[onyx hull]

it's better that way

[toxic yacht]

reminds me of finland vs Uk chat

uber had to tell them to shut the fuck up

[pine star]

Dive defense

[opaque owl]

lol the chat game

[dusty surge]

Interesting to see them defending so far forward.

[wanton bronze]

winston is a bad character though

rite

[dusty surge]

Especially after 3 seasons of "WAIT AT BIG EARLS, NEWBS!"

[toxic yacht]

but yeah, low ground defense

weird

winston needs buffs reb

$100%

[wanton bronze]

ye

[toxic yacht]

he's shit

[wanton bronze]

yeah look the team with winston is losing

[tawdry quartz]

He is coming back in only because of changes in other heroes

[toxic yacht]

oh, dat blade

[onyx hull]

soon knows how to manage his time well

[pine star]

Yeah

He knows his cooldowns so well

Reminds me of Miro

[toxic yacht]

winston was picked very much before tank meta

yeah, that's not a coincidence

[tawdry quartz]

Sypeh going full "faith in your ana" mode there

[toxic yacht]

pretty much, lul

just like shadowburn

or whoru

[wanton bronze]

30 hp

[dusty surge]

Wow. Just getting spawn camped.

[toxic yacht]

also, I feel bad for rogue

[wanton bronze]

time to go in

[pine star]

Spawn camped lol

[tawdry quartz]

Gonna see it way more

[onyx hull]

rip

[tawdry quartz]

With aggro defense coming into vogue

[toxic yacht]

mfw nico saves the game

But selfess fucking spawncamps

never forget that

like, they literally walk up to your spawn

it's their strat

[onyx hull]

it's so annoying seeing it work sometimes

[pine star]

Nico!!

[toxic yacht]

I love how NiP spawncamps

failed dash cancer

[pine star]

Unkoe!!

[toxic yacht]

dunno wtf he was expecting

[onyx hull]

lol

[dusty surge]

Do we have a dive comp mirror match here?

[toxic yacht]

yup

[dusty surge]

:(

pls

[toxic yacht]

reminds me of rogue vs nV during ESL

on anubis

[pine star]

Can't kill Soon with tac visor

[clever wagon]

Last AMM allowed custom skins didn't it?

[toxic yacht]

pretty sure

[pine star]

RNG feeding

[toxic yacht]

did they disable skins this match?

[balmy wolf]

Okay fuck editing

I might do it after the matches

[toxic yacht]

I could swear that they had skins last match

[balmy wolf]

But doing it during is fucked

[dusty surge]

I wonder if we'll see sprays disabled in the future...

[tawdry quartz]

Lots of teams struggling on 2nd on maps like this

[onyx hull]

relax

[tawdry quartz]

Same with 2nd Hollywood

[pine star]

Maybe they forgot to disable them last match?

[toxic yacht]

@dusty surge apex got a tournament realm

[balmy wolf]

I also dont even know how many rounds were dropped on the off stream games

[toxic yacht]

all skins

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

all sprays

all cosmetics

[dusty surge]

Wait what?

[toxic yacht]

yeah

[onyx hull]

also max level

[balmy wolf]

Not max

[toxic yacht]

all level 1

[pine star]

RNG is feeding so fucking hard, jfc

[toxic yacht]

but super cool portrait

[clever wagon]

It's nice to see triple tank seeing significantly less play

[toxic yacht]

he could have deflected that nade, damn

also, yeah, happy to see NA not be tank slaves anymore

[onyx hull]

ult economy zzz

[dusty surge]

So all sprays and cosmetics disabled?

[onyx hull]

HAHAHA

[clever wagon]

NA EU needs to catch up to Korea mechanical superiority soon, and matches like this are what's important

[toxic yacht]

S O O N
O
O
N

[pine star]

Soon is goals

Omg

[toxic yacht]

@dusty surge enabled on the tourney realm

[dusty surge]

Ahh

[onyx hull]

bastion really? is this qp?

[toxic yacht]

iirc they were all spraying and shit

I think

I may be mistaken though

[vestal mortar]

Yeah there were sprays

[dusty surge]

I was meaning the option in custom game. The new server browser stuff added "disable skins."

[toxic yacht]

ah

[balmy wolf]

They had 1900 level border in Apex

[dusty surge]

So I wonder if we'll see "disable sprays" and emotes as well in the future.

[tawdry quartz]

Bastion has been really popular on final pushes for both attack and defense

[toxic yacht]

ah, that

[clever wagon]

Lv 2391 btw

Tournament realm portrait

[onyx hull]

how often does it work tho

[tawdry quartz]

Lets see 1/3 times during the carbon series

and it might not have been necessary

[toxic yacht]

I miss zenyatta

[onyx hull]

good stats

[toxic yacht]

;_;

[dusty surge]

Anyway, why'd they have a special tournament realm?

[vestal mortar]

come back Zen

[onyx hull]

fancy stuff

[clever wagon]

If anything, that Lv 2391 portrait is a valid incentive if u ask me

[pine star]

Out Tracering Soon 😮

[toxic yacht]

remember when soon played characters that weren't tracer?

lul

[balmy wolf]

2400* @clever wagon

[pine star]

:OOOO

[onyx hull]

same comp 😩

[tawdry quartz]

Incoming renegades domination

[toxic yacht]

LMAO

[tawdry quartz]

Wait for it

[toxic yacht]

fuckin idiot blade

[onyx hull]

team kill?

[toxic yacht]

mfw aKm refuses to play McCree

rip

[balmy wolf]

[vestal mortar]

WHOA

[pine star]

I'm more concerned about Soon being outplayed by J3sus

[balmy wolf]

He's been outplayed in Tracer 1v1s before

[toxic yacht]

^

[balmy wolf]

Most notably by Buds

[onyx hull]

soon is better

[balmy wolf]

Like 3 times in a row

[pine star]

Yeah

[tawdry quartz]

1 on the payload

[pine star]

I remember

That was an upset

[dusty surge]

Carbon: THey always leave 1 during the auto-scrolling parts where it moves at a fixed rate.

They fall back once having 3 actually helps

[toxic yacht]

wtf was that dragonblade waste?

is this soloQ?

[balmy wolf]

[tawdry quartz]

Sherlockey ran the 100% wrong way

[toxic yacht]

oh god, if I were j3sus I couldn't have resisted throwing a bomb into that room

[pine star]

LUL

SYPEH!

[balmy wolf]

Sypeh's genji

jesus fuck

[pine star]

Oh my god

So many Genji plays this week

[onyx hull]

HAHAHA

[tawdry quartz]

This is why RNG is so fun to watch now, 1 of 3 players could each go off

[toxic yacht]

I mean, this was cleanup

I expect genji to do that tbh

[vestal mortar]

So good

[balmy wolf]

RNG is quickly becoming one of my favourite teams

[toxic yacht]

wtf was that nanoblade?

[balmy wolf]

AKM

MCCREE

WOOOOOO

[tawdry quartz]

its HIIGGGHHHHHHHH

[toxic yacht]

FINALLY

YES

[pine star]

AKM ON MCREE

FUCKING FINALLY

[toxic yacht]

IT'S LITERALLY TRACER AND GENJI

[balmy wolf]

WOOOOOOOOO

[toxic yacht]

ELECTRIC COWBOY

lol

[pine star]

LUL

[vestal mortar]

YES

[onyx hull]

good shit

[toxic yacht]

I was wondering why he wasn't going cree

vs tracer and genji

[dusty surge]

lol 1 hp

[clever wagon]

Holy shit J3sus ninja pulse bomb

[toxic yacht]

aKm just dying on McCree

[onyx hull]

LOL

[clever wagon]

Just took a 2nd look

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[balmy wolf]

ELECTRICCOWBOY

INC

[toxic yacht]

AKM

[tawdry quartz]

damn

[balmy wolf]

WOOOOOOO

[toxic yacht]

AYYY

[balmy wolf]

AKM

[dusty surge]

Wow

[balmy wolf]

AYY KAY EMM

[pine star]

About damn time, akm

[toxic yacht]

I MISSED AKM CREE SO MUCH

[vestal mortar]

omg

[balmy wolf]

HOLY FUCK I LOVE AKM

[toxic yacht]

HOLY FUCK

THIS GUY

[pine star]

VAC

[toxic yacht]

GETTING ESL FLASHBACKS

[onyx hull]

rip

[balmy wolf]

jesus fucking

fuck

[clever wagon]

61 ELIMS

[balmy wolf]

aKm's mccree is what I've been missing

[vestal mortar]

Jeeze

[onyx hull]

wow

[balmy wolf]

[onyx hull]

[pine star]

I picture him saying

[toxic yacht]

Man, I forgot how much I missed aKm on Cree

like, can he always play him?

please

[clever wagon]

FaZe?

[pine star]

"I'm done with this shit, let's get this over with already" goes McCree

[balmy wolf]

^

Hammers vs Rogue next

[toxic yacht]

pls go cree

I think he's deciding

what he wants to pick

he knows what they will run

[pine star]

Suspense

[toxic yacht]

CREE

YES!

[pine star]

LETS GO BOOOIS

[onyx hull]

mangachu on pharah ohh

[toxic yacht]

LET'S GO BOIS

AKM GONNA CARRY YOUR ASSES

[balmy wolf]

aKm - McCree
Nico - Genji
SoOn - Tracer
KnoxXx - Lucio
Winz - Zarya
Unkoe - Ana

I wish man

[tawdry quartz]

If Jesus can get to AKM then Mangachu will do what he did last time

[balmy wolf]

I wish

[toxic yacht]

NICE

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[pine star]

SHUTDOWN

Instantly

[toxic yacht]

fuckin lol

instaded

[pine star]

There's your counter, take notes Hammers

[toxic yacht]

^

[vestal mortar]

pfffft

[balmy wolf]

playing pharah into akm's mccree

[onyx hull]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

[toxic yacht]

aKm proving why he's one of the best Crees in the game

[dusty surge]

"Chunkdem"

[onyx hull]

sack the pharmercy lol

[toxic yacht]

mangachu being like a stubborn genji main

lmao

[dusty surge]

Probably switch after the round

[onyx hull]

lol

[balmy wolf]

1 more death to aKm and Manga is switching

[toxic yacht]

probably

[clever wagon]

Zebbo Widow redux

[onyx hull]

if he kills akm ana gets him

[toxic yacht]

LMAO

[balmy wolf]

AHAHAHA

THE FLASH

[toxic yacht]

he gets nanoed, pussies out

[balmy wolf]

AKMCCREE OH HOW IVE MISSED YOU

[toxic yacht]

then gets flashbanged

[pine star]

I love how Mangachu targets aKm him because he knows he has to get rid of him asap

[toxic yacht]

misses all rockets

lmao

[onyx hull]

lmao

[toxic yacht]

he's not swapping

[onyx hull]

tilted

[toxic yacht]

ded

[balmy wolf]

He wants ult

[toxic yacht]

he'll lose before he gets ult

lol

[onyx hull]

dead weight

[toxic yacht]

he should have swapped the moment he got instakilled

tbh

[clever wagon]

Mangachu Junkrat meta when

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[pine star]

On sanctum lol

[clever wagon]

Definitely an answer to aKm

Amirite?

[balmy wolf]

Stayed on Pharah the whole round into aKm mccree

waiting on ult

[onyx hull]

hahahaha

[balmy wolf]

uses it

[pine star]

Junkrat is back bois

[balmy wolf]

die instantly

LOL

[onyx hull]

so stubborn

[balmy wolf]

NOOOOO

[toxic yacht]

aKm on soldier now

[dusty surge]

so chunked

[toxic yacht]

:/

[clever wagon]

Real talk though

[dusty surge]

I feel like I'm in the 80's again.

[balmy wolf]

kill me pls

[toxic yacht]

lmao

[pine star]

Rekt

[toxic yacht]

manga instaded

yup, Rogue is lookign much better this round

[pine star]

They still won tho

[toxic yacht]

FaZe was just warmup

[balmy wolf]

Ooo

reaper

[clever wagon]

Why is Mangachu so bent on playing NOT-LONG RANGE-HITSCAN this match

Fuck

[toxic yacht]

he's so stubborn

[dusty surge]

Spray checks out

[toxic yacht]

like, it shows that rogue has more experience

it just shows

[balmy wolf]

Rogue are playing better agaisnt RNG than they were against FaZe

Rogue are back

[toxic yacht]

ayyy

[pine star]

Soon can die 😮

[toxic yacht]

I still miss old Rogue though

aKm and TviQ were my favourite dps combo in ow

[dusty surge]

Mangachu is trying to carry the game.

[balmy wolf]

Buds and Iddqd for me

:(

Dude

That sleep

[toxic yacht]

man, both our favourite duos are dead

:/

[balmy wolf]

Haffi is alright but

It just isnt the same :c

[toxic yacht]

yup, rogue is definitely back

loving this

[dusty surge]

Mangachu should go Mei

[onyx hull]

soon distracted everyone lol

[dusty surge]

Not even joking right now.

[pine star]

Seagull + IDDQD new favourite combo?

[toxic yacht]

not as good as before

but reking these NA noobs

[balmy wolf]

Everytime I hear the teamkill bell I think back to TSM vs C9 in the August AMM

[toxic yacht]

didn't watch that match

:/

[onyx hull]

j3sus not hitting lots of hooks

[balmy wolf]

You should Sojum

[toxic yacht]

and seagull + iddqd may become my favourite combo

[balmy wolf]

August was 👌🏻

[toxic yacht]

august was only gamescom to me

"the week of ana"

[balmy wolf]

At least I think it was August

[toxic yacht]

It's been half a year of ana

[onyx hull]

yeah

[toxic yacht]

with barely any nerfs

aKm pharah

[pine star]

akm throwing

[toxic yacht]

[balmy wolf]

akm pharah

[toxic yacht]

this is gonna be hilarious

[onyx hull]

haha

[balmy wolf]

[digital pond]

Rogue just seems to have superior shot calling frankly.

[onyx hull]

rip

[toxic yacht]

what is aKm doing?

[onyx hull]

throwing

[dusty surge]

Rogue screwing around now

[onyx hull]

already switched lol

[toxic yacht]

on cree again

lol

[digital pond]

AKM is being the tunnel vision partner for Mangachu

[balmy wolf]

Yuss

[pine star]

Thank god

[digital pond]

Manga focusing too much

[toxic yacht]

RNG could snowball now though

[digital pond]

So his team wipes

[toxic yacht]

oh, rogue capped

[balmy wolf]

Time to watch my boy mangachu get fucked by a cowboy

[digital pond]

Manga got AKM

But soon killed the rest of RNG

[toxic yacht]

jfc soon's pulse bombs

[digital pond]

So he was alone and they capped

[pine star]

Soon is ridiculous

[toxic yacht]

he needs no fucking graviton to get a triple

[digital pond]

His Tracer play is

Monstruous

[toxic yacht]

lmao

akm just murders pharah + mercy in a row

[pine star]

God

He's nearly fucking unkillable

[digital pond]

There's way more synergy on Rogue

[toxic yacht]

rogue has also been playing together so much longer

a new tank is a bit ergh though

since knoxxx is basically like a new tank

[digital pond]

I wonder how SoOn's aim isn't always shaking dude plays on a decently high Sens/DPI set up.

[pine star]

Did akm just suicide?

[onyx hull]

stll capped?

[digital pond]

LOL

THE DEAD EYE

[onyx hull]

na ult

[toxic yacht]

nico throw

deadeye

lmao

[digital pond]

Unkoe gives and takes

In kills

That was disgusting

[toxic yacht]

j3sus

[balmy wolf]

Honestly Unkoe is my favourite support player

[pine star]

3-0ed

[digital pond]

Faze gave them a harder time holy fuck

[dusty surge]

Brutalized

[balmy wolf]

2-0*

[dusty surge]

Wait, sorry

ThEY GOT CHUNKED DOWN

[opaque owl]

seems like polo was right; rogue beat renegades

[digital pond]

Unkoe's Ana is actually the most impressive thing of the series for me.

[toxic yacht]

man, RNG got rekt

lul

[onyx hull]

one punch lucio

[toxic yacht]

jesus, koth was so dominant

[balmy wolf]

Told you :p @opaque owl

[pine star]

Brazilian Saitama

[balmy wolf]

Unkoe's Ana and Zen are just godlike man

I love the guy

[toxic yacht]

aKm on Cree = win

aKm on pharah = struggling vs fucking faze

[pine star]

^lul I was gonna say that exactly

[toxic yacht]

I think they were just experimenting with FaZe

[pine star]

They were memeing

[digital pond]

I think they were testing out the comp on live

I'm sure they scrimmed on it

[toxic yacht]

aKm pharah is crap, please never play her again, thank you

[digital pond]

But now it was stage testing

[onyx hull]

i think he learned on nepal

[balmy wolf]

@toxic yacht TSM vs C9 was actually in the NA Regional qualifier #1 for the OWOpen

[toxic yacht]

ah, didn't watch all of the qualifiers

[pine star]

@balmy wolf where do I find the VODs?

[toxic yacht]

yeah, I'll go to sleep after rogue vs hammers

it's almost 2 am

[balmy wolf]

No idea

Probably on https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchopen

[opaque owl]

@balmy wolf yeah i honestly didn't think they could do it with 2 new ish players

[pine star]

Is there any big LANs planned in the near future?

NA LANs*

[balmy wolf]

2 new ish players? @opaque owl

No there isnt @El McSullivano#2402

[pine star]

FeelsBadMan

[balmy wolf]

We are due for another NA/EU LAN soon though

There will probably be some in the summer

[tawdry quartz]

I got a decent sized house, Lan party at my place?

[balmy wolf]

World Cup happening again aswell probably

[pine star]

Let's go @tawdry quartz

[opaque owl]

@balmy wolf well nico and the other one

[balmy wolf]

Oh I thought you were talking about RNG

Nico and SoOn you mean?

Well SoOn joined at the start of December

So I wouldn't call him new

I knew they'd do good though

Because of the hype from Frank

And them picking up Nico

His performance on Melty in beta was 👌🏻

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/79858361 @El McSullivano#2402

Thats the match I was talking about

Map 1 is on the channel

[onyx hull]

why do they skip games

[balmy wolf]

Who?

[onyx hull]

montly melee

[balmy wolf]

Because they need to fit it into a weekend

And they cant wait to have all the matches streamed

So they only stream half

[onyx hull]

i see

[vestal mortar]

I am going to sleep to dream about IMT hopefully beating LG later.

[onyx hull]

g'night

😴

finally zen picks

[forest raven]

I missed aKm

[opaque owl]

damn this hurts

[forest raven]

Rogue is gonna sweep the whole tourney

[onyx hull]

what a dive

[forest raven]

IMT could beat them

[balmy wolf]

Finals will be IMT vs Rogue

Calling it

[forest raven]

Oh yeah for sure

[onyx hull]

yeah

[tawdry quartz]

Advice: Dont dive into Hammers' Death ball

[onyx hull]

clutch ult but i would've done the same lol

[pine star]

Calculated

[onyx hull]

what the fuck

[balmy wolf]

https://clips.twitch.tv/curse/TenderOkapiHeyGuys

[forest raven]

Nico played around the death ball

omg Rogue's aggression is beautiful

[balmy wolf]

Dude

[onyx hull]

this is so fun

[pine star]

Punishing agro with agro

[balmy wolf]

It's like everyone is Roadhog to SoOn

They're so easy for him to hit

[onyx hull]

lmao

[forest raven]

Wow they held it

[onyx hull]

great game

[pine star]

Super is surprisingly good on Tracer

[balmy wolf]

Did you see him at Carbon?

[pine star]

Didn't expected that from a Reinhardt player

Yes

[balmy wolf]

[pine star]

That's why I say it lol

[tawdry quartz]

It was nuts

[pine star]

4dps meta

[forest raven]

I was amazed by how many times J3 beat So0n on Route 66

[balmy wolf]

J3

draw pls

[forest raven]

It's faster than Jesus or J3sus

[balmy wolf]

It's silly

[forest raven]

It's efficient

[pine star]

Slasher's insight are deep and well analyzed

[balmy wolf]

If you're on a keyboard, just type jesus

[pine star]

But goddammit I can't stand him talking lol

HOW DO YOU KILL SOON

HOW

[forest raven]

I feel like running one Winston against three tanks on defence is not doing any favours for Rogue

But So0n exists lol

[onyx hull]

they are just ignoring soon haha

[balmy wolf]

SoOn*

[onyx hull]

i mean it's probably the best strat but it's going to bite them in the back

[forest raven]

ic

[balmy wolf]

jeez draw

[pine star]

BOOSTIOOOOOO

[forest raven]

Thank you for the correction, Polo

[balmy wolf]

You're welcome, Drawlords.

[pine star]

When SoOn is against 3 or 4 people, I feel like it's a 1v1

Gets the kill

Then another 1v1

Gets the kill

And so on

[balmy wolf]

lul gg

The full hold

[pine star]

Oh boy

[forest raven]

I like how you can tell everyone on Rogue is just individually, really fucking good

[pine star]

Get ready for french dominance

[balmy wolf]

It's like Team Sweden in the World Cup

Except they are really co-ordinated

[onyx hull]

how would you go against nico/soon duo

[balmy wolf]

I wouldnt

Anything I do I would be destroyed

[onyx hull]

same tbh

[pine star]

With Seagull + IDDQD?

Hashtag NRG Hype

[onyx hull]

maybe a good ass mccree

[forest raven]

Like aKm

[onyx hull]

ye

[forest raven]

aKm showed why he's on Taimou's level in about a minute against RNG lmao

[pine star]

NA production lul

[onyx hull]

chat is calling for hanzos

[pine star]

I like me some Hanjo

[onyx hull]

maybe log arrows are really the answer

[pine star]

Soon knows his limits so well

[forest raven]

SoOn and aKm omg

[pine star]

I mean

aKm is a ridiculous McCree mechanically

But SoOn...

[forest raven]

SoOn is the best Tracer in the world

[pine star]

I can't even compare him with other Tracers

[balmy wolf]

"akm has always had the potential on his mccree"

Hex is high

[pine star]

I can only compare him with Miro

[forest raven]

aKm's like in the top 5 McCrees in the world

[pine star]

As weird as it sounds lul

[balmy wolf]

Miro on Tracer?

I didnt know he plays tracer

[forest raven]

Miro has no comparison on Winston

SoOn has no comparison on Tracer

[balmy wolf]

Oh right

Meh

[forest raven]

Well, Bunny's pretty fuckin good

[balmy wolf]

I'd say Buds and Vallu are up there with SoOn

[forest raven]

Oh yeah Buds is pretty great

[pine star]

Not really what I meant

They just know their heroes so well

Know how to move, evade

The cooldowns

Buds is a monster

To bad Fnatic sucks

[balmy wolf]

rip iddqd :c

[onyx hull]

soon rip too many times

lol

[pine star]

DENIED

[forest raven]

I feel like Rogue has won about one team fight

And yet Hammers has only a minute on the clock

[onyx hull]

nico is focusing ana too much she got smart

[balmy wolf]

LOL

That pulse bomb

from train

[pine star]

Disgusting

[onyx hull]

hahaha that stall

[pine star]

Absolutely disgusting

Lunatic Hai baby D.Va stagger disgusting

[dusty surge]

"Rob420?"

They deserve to lose for that name alone.

[onyx hull]

lol

[pine star]

He's a damn good Ana tho

[forest raven]

So Rogue has 2-0'd RNG

[onyx hull]

he's good, not god

[dusty surge]

Not good enough to sleep that Genji.

[forest raven]

Looks like they could very well 2-0 Hammers

Then they need to 2-0 IMT to really show NA

[balmy wolf]

I wonder who coL are trialing now

[onyx hull]

ooh rein

[pine star]

Txao and Kao didn't convinced me

[dusty surge]

We totally had Chik Fil A in Minnesota.

Get your shit together, casters.

[onyx hull]

akm pharah lmao

[pine star]

aKm on Pharah again

Why does he do this to us?

[onyx hull]

he plays like me on qp

[dusty surge]

Yeah. He plays like a casual. Not making use of the concussion.

[forest raven]

At the same time Hammers has no idea what to do against a Pharah

[balmy wolf]

I've missed good pharah play man

Mangachu is 👌🏻

[onyx hull]

anyone can counter akm pharah

[balmy wolf]

But I want my Talespin back

[pine star]

I can counter aKm's Pharah with Lúcio

[forest raven]

If it was any other team, aKm would be punished for his Pharah

[onyx hull]

hah he picked mccree back

[forest raven]

THen he'd go back to McCree or 76 and roll

[onyx hull]

jake feeding a lot

[balmy wolf]

He just shouldn't play Pharah

[pine star]

ZP is right

Jake needs to switch

Now

[forest raven]

Unkoe holy shit lmao

[onyx hull]

jake... :/

[opaque owl]

more like super fucked up

[balmy wolf]

Has Hammers been signed yet even?

[tawdry quartz]

You mean with Hammers eSports?

[forest raven]

Hammers is an org

[tawdry quartz]

Luckiest org ever to get this team

[balmy wolf]

Nico and SoOn

[forest raven]

It seems whenever there's a Genji in his face aKm misses his shots

[onyx hull]

jake tried too hard to flank and got punished

[balmy wolf]

Yeah Ive noticed that too

Really weird

[forest raven]

5 ults v 5 ults

Hammers is gonna blemish Rogue's record

WAIT

[onyx hull]

soon alive 😃

[forest raven]

I think Rogue can do it

Damn

[balmy wolf]

Dang dude

[onyx hull]

close one

[pine star]

Damn

[balmy wolf]

Jesus

I think Nico has gotten potg every game so far

Hammers, RNG and faze

[onyx hull]

nico and soon almost tied with kills

[pine star]

2-0ed by Rogue

[forest raven]

Now they need to 2-0 IMT

Though Hollywood was won by Rogue through a single teamfight

So it wasn't a stomp

[balmy wolf]

LG vs Rise up next

[forest raven]

I want more Rogue tho

:(

[balmy wolf]

They just played 3 in a row

[onyx hull]

i'm hyped for immortals

[forest raven]

Yeah but Rogue's so fun to watch

[onyx hull]

yeah every player is amazing to watch

[pine star]

LG vs RN

Ñeh

I thing I'm skipping this one

[onyx hull]

maybe it's a stomp who knows

[forest raven]

LG finally gets to win a game

[balmy wolf]

They beat IMT in Carbon

[forest raven]

Oh yeah

Forgot about that

[pine star]

Has Rise ever done something good ever?

[balmy wolf]

No lol

[pine star]

Exactly

Yet they get salty when they aren't invited to things

[balmy wolf]

[forest raven]

Next AMM let's get Selfless and NRG in there

[balmy wolf]

lol

that sponsor plug

[onyx hull]

weak pharah

[balmy wolf]

Ube usually plays Pharah

[forest raven]

Spree not on Zarya

[pine star]

LG

Wins against IMT

Losing against RN

[forest raven]

That's the NA scene lmao

[onyx hull]

why are they running 3dps anyway

[pine star]

They gotta be like the cool, popular guys

[forest raven]

At least Hidan gets to play Zen

[onyx hull]

it's standard dive but no one can pull their weight imo

[forest raven]

idk if Rise has improved or LG is just doing tier 2 NA things

[balmy wolf]

idk why ube isnt on pharah

[wanton bronze]

maybe sprees genji isnt as good as Ubes?

[balmy wolf]

Spree should be Zarya

[forest raven]

Spree should just play Zarya

[balmy wolf]

They dont need to play Dive

[onyx hull]

yeah

[forest raven]

Just do 2-2-2 or 3-2-1 man

Dive isn't required

[onyx hull]

dive works when players are already amazing on required heroes like soOn on tracer etc, otherwise its a waste of talent

[pine star]

Not only do they need to be good on the heroes

They also have to be very well coordinated

[forest raven]

3 dps is one of the hardest comps to play

[pine star]

One player dives in at the wrong time, and the dive is over

[forest raven]

Yep

[wanton bronze]

to be fair at that level diving in at the same time is pretty basic

it will be more making sure everyone can get to the right targets

and keeping the not lucio support alive

[pine star]

Yeah

Diving at the right time was just an example

One of the many things that can go wrong running a dive comp

[wanton bronze]

damn

I was hoping for the widow

with reaper

[pine star]

Denied

[onyx hull]

lol

[pine star]

DENIED

[forest raven]

Midnight

[onyx hull]

cool as fuck

[pine star]

Midnight solo carrying!

[onyx hull]

no kills lol

denied

[forest raven]

Rise is actually being competitive

👏

[pine star]

This brawl

[forest raven]

Good on ya, boys

[onyx hull]

wait there was a dc?

[pine star]

Yup

[forest raven]

Yeah, Mineral dc'd on LG's offence

On third point

[onyx hull]

oh

[jovial eagle]

there needs to be a lan

for tounraments

seriously

[forest raven]

They got one for APEX

[pine star]

This tournament is online tho

[onyx hull]

wasnt vegas lan?

[pine star]

^no

[forest raven]

Or a tournament realm, at least

[onyx hull]

meh

[pine star]

Even if there was, doesn't matter

If the players have a shitty internet, they'll still dc

[onyx hull]

maybe teams need backup players?

spree on pharah again

[pine star]

Not many orgs are willing to pay a benched player

[onyx hull]

there's that

[forest raven]

Besides the Koreans

You have to pay a benched player, but it also provides your roster a lot more flexibility

[pine star]

Yeah but $$$

lul

[onyx hull]

lul

[pine star]

Hammer to da face

[forest raven]

NA orgs have more money than KR orgs

So

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pine star]

Not all

Also

Some may

[forest raven]

True

[pine star]

But they're not willing to

ALSO

[onyx hull]

spree will ult and sack the pharah calling

[pine star]

You can't really compare korean mentality to na mentality

[forest raven]

Yeah true

[pine star]

Westworld lol

Monte and Doa named it

[onyx hull]

okay spree picked up the rhythm

[pine star]

ggez

Ube is a better Pharah tho

But Spree is not a good Genji

[onyx hull]

sym shield could maaaybe hold 1st point but rise has lots of mobility to find the generator

[forest raven]

I like how brawly these games have been

Such a farcry from triple/quad tank everywhere

[pine star]

Yeah

[onyx hull]

dive vs dive was fun to watch

[pine star]

If this is a stage of teams figuring out the meta, please let it never fucking end

We've had triple tank, dives, high dives, 4 dps, Hanzo, Junkrat, Torbjorn, Bastion, lots of Widow

It's fucking christmas man

I'm worried about the Bastion buff tho

[onyx hull]

i think it'll be pretty meh on live, people will figure out that dva is the answer

[pine star]

Yeah

But still

[wanton bronze]

eh pro pug teams we running mirror, Rein, Roadhog, Dva, Bastion, Ana and Lucio

on ptr

[onyx hull]

na ult

[wanton bronze]

whether or not its an indicator of what will actually happen I dunno

[onyx hull]

casters roasting him

[wanton bronze]

sombra will save us

maybe

[pine star]

Sombra buffs will not make her meta

[onyx hull]

sombra will never be the answer 😦

[tawdry quartz]

Tell that to lui

[onyx hull]

lui is not soloq

[dusty surge]

I'm starting to think Sombra is fine. But it's going to take a long time until enough people are successful with her for her to be considered not garbage.

For those of you who made it in the beta: how long was it until good Genji players started to emerge?

[wanton bronze]

cant remember to be honest

[pine star]

Until Seagull created a weeb cult?

[onyx hull]

ii think the problem with somra is that she can't work alone. i know it's a team game but most attack/defense heroes can pull their weight well, but sombra is too reliant on her teammates

[dusty surge]

For her ult, yes. But I play her in solo queue expressly when I don't want to rely on my team.

And I've been pulling pretty solid stats.

[pine star]

It's not the same

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah he is solo flank effective for non-ulti

[pine star]

Ladder != Pro scene

[tawdry quartz]

she*

Well maybe Lui will play it again this week in the Carbon Series

[pine star]

Of course he will

[tawdry quartz]

I just wanna see how pros reconcile her kit

[pine star]

He played Sombra like 80% of his playtime lol

[dusty surge]

I feel like the pro scene is still in its infancy here. Pretty much every tournament since I started heavily followed some cookie-cutter ez-mode meta.

[pine star]

^somewhat true

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah it is definitely still evolving

I think it is starting to blossom

Orgs are starting to pay a little more attention to infrastructure which is actually pretty important for the health and growth of an esport

[dusty surge]

I hope so. I'm a little worried that we've seen a decent number of mirror matches today.

[wanton bronze]

its a bigger pool than normal I think.

[onyx hull]

yup kings row pharah

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah hero selection is actually pretty unlocked compared to previous metas

[dusty surge]

That's so bad for the game; not only is it boring to watch, but so much of the casual community blindly follows the pros that a staple comp means people start bitching about picks outside that comp.

A common comp, that is

[wanton bronze]

well it looks like theres a couple of comps people are running. Its mainly the defense heroes, again, that are being left behind

[onyx hull]

it's frustrating seeing people get reported for offmeta picks

[pine star]

It's pretty hard to balance a competitive game to the point that there is no meta

Nearly impossible

[dusty surge]

Like, the fact we've seen most attacking teams running Tracer, Genji, Winston, Lucio and two fillers is bothersome. I enjoy that they're valuable again, but I don't want them to be perceived as the only valuable picks.

[pine star]

The problem is when the meta is pretty limited

[tawdry quartz]

I mean Carbon series has seen every hero but hanzo played

[pine star]

^

[dusty surge]

Hanzo gets picks for initial sonic arrow. :P

[onyx hull]

lul

[tawdry quartz]

in that case *Every hero ever 😛

[onyx hull]

is that the first mei of the night?

[pine star]

LUL

That chase

[onyx hull]

LMAO

benny hills

[pine star]

2 NA blades in a row

[onyx hull]

ube was BM'ing

[pine star]

The triple tank triple support meta is back

😮

[onyx hull]

luminosity has no counter ults

rip ana rip team

lmao

[pine star]

E X P L O D I N G

Gotta love ZP lol

He's the second most hyped caster in OW

[tawdry quartz]

Who is #1?

[pine star]

Uber obviously lol

[onyx hull]

rein panic ulted

[pine star]

M E L T E D

[onyx hull]

i wonder how much a dash reset nerf would affect these kind of plays

[pine star]

They'd put Genji on the bench for a long while

You'll just spread out and the blade is useless

[dusty surge]

Did they finish at exactly the same time?

Oh, there it is.

[onyx hull]

spree is too passive with his pharah

[pine star]

As a Zarya main, I miss seen him on Zarya

[tawdry quartz]

inb4 hidan sleep dart play

[pine star]

Hidan is a monster on Ana

[onyx hull]

draw really?

[tawdry quartz]

Right?

[pine star]

He was the one that got fucked the most on the 3 way trade

HIDAN

[tawdry quartz]

Nailed it

[onyx hull]

lol

[pine star]

Rise looking good

Makes me glad tbfh

[forest raven]

Who won

[pine star]

Rise

[onyx hull]

rise

[forest raven]

Aww shit

[pine star]

It was a good match

[forest raven]

Rise is doing stuff

[pine star]

Some sloppy plays here and there, but a solid, close match nonetheless

[forest raven]

#JustTier2NAThings

[pine star]

lul

[onyx hull]

immortals 3-1 luminosity. calling

[forest raven]

3-0 for me

[onyx hull]

great self control from immortals

this is beautiful

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah its nice to see

[forest raven]

If there's a team to beat Rogue, it's IMT

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah, I think that Renegades could do it with some work

And hammers has looked good

[onyx hull]

so chill, amazing

[pine star]

LUL D E N I E D

[balmy wolf]

tfw LG full hold IMT

[pine star]

Well

This is gg

[onyx hull]

yeah rip

[balmy wolf]

Oh wait

IMT full held LG

[pine star]

Zarya so good against dive

Yup

gg

[onyx hull]

immortals has really great synergy

[pine star]

Also Grim and Agilities so good mechanically

[onyx hull]

gg already

[pine star]

Yup

Bodied

Turns out they can run 3 dps dive too

Some questionable prediction from Agilities right there

[onyx hull]

grim just eats everyone in his sight

[forest raven]

IMT vs. Rogue is gonna be so cash

[onyx hull]

almost sure agilities is just baiting

[pine star]

lul

Grim is reaching Harryhook levels

Using tac visor only to recharge faster

[onyx hull]

wtf ube

[dusty surge]

LG getting bitch slapped around

[pine star]

LUL

[forest raven]

I'm ready for aKm vs. Grim / Agilities vs. Nico / Hyped vs. SoOn

[onyx hull]

lg throwing imo

[pine star]

Slasher is stoned af

[onyx hull]

casters roasting poor ube

[tawdry quartz]

Funny because ZP and Hex are in CO

#420BlaZeIT

I mean...Ube isnt the strongest Genji

But he does have a deep pool

[pine star]

Grim feeding

[onyx hull]

grim carrying HA

[pine star]

LUL

[clever wagon]

https://twitter.com/art1er/status/832618379605274624?s=09

[onyx hull]

aaand feeding again

[tulip jewel]

Is RoF taken into account here

[forest raven]

Nope

McCree does 140dps

Ana does 100

[pine star]

• heashots

[dusty surge]

lol

[onyx hull]

beautiful finish

[forest raven]

Not a single point for LG rip

[dusty surge]

DId they lose 0-2 every match?

[onyx hull]

their dive was shite they deserved it

[pine star]

Yeah

I loved how LG came from the flank on their offense on Gibraltar

And IMT where like

[forest raven]

LG won a game against Rise

[pine star]

Amm, ok lul, the payload is this way

[forest raven]

But against IMT LG didn't get anything

[onyx hull]

that was funny

[forest raven]

I'm looking at group a rn and it's so funny

Rogue - 9 points

FaZe - 3 points

RNG - 3 points

Hammers - 3 points

[dusty surge]

Ugh. Another gem of a video from Your Overwatch, where they declare there are only three ways to play.

Bloody hell I hate that.

[pine star]

Your Overwatch is relevant?

[onyx hull]

what did they say

[tawdry quartz]

waiting for teams to come into lobby

Last match coming up after these messages

insert stupid geico ad here

[dusty surge]

@pine star No, but their popularity means it'll eventually come up in solo queue and I'll have to address it.

[pine star]

Honestly I'd rather Stylosa than Your Overwatch lol

[dusty surge]

They're all a bit click-baity and overgeneralizing. I'm at the point where I watch them in the same way you study your enemies to know how they think. :P

[pine star]

Yeah

Tbf I enjoy Stylosa

[onyx hull]

i only watch skyline and so-and-so

[pine star]

He's a high level casual that addresses casuals and gives kind of good advice

[dusty surge]

His delivery is a bit too high energy for me. I've enjoyed Skyline and Force -- they seem to shy away from the "one true method" style of content.

[pine star]

Your Overwatch try to sound like the one true Overwatch knowledge source

[dusty surge]

Yeah

[pine star]

Actually Sty's high energy is what I enjoy the most out of him lol

It's so memeable

Hello ladies and gentleman this is Unit Lost holy shit this all is crazy ok bye

[dusty surge]

^

[digital pond]

I just like consice things that why i watch Skyline. Sty just talks too much for me.

I feel like he's trying to make friends with me.

But I don't have friends so I know it's a ruse.

[pine star]

lol

Yeah well, for in-depth Overwatch stuff I just watch Flame