esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

FUCKING AMAZING 😮

[clever wagon]

THE HERO PORTRAIT ON THE LEFT LOWER CORNER

[toxic yacht]

I'm not watching the stream rn

[forest raven]

They're playing on a Tournament Realm

[toxic yacht]

oi

[forest raven]

So they have access to all sprays and emotes

[toxic yacht]

nice

[vestal mortar]

Omg tournament realm! Niceee! 😄

[toxic yacht]

finally

👍

[forest raven]

The portrait borders are quite grandiose

[toxic yacht]

ma bois over at blizz making me proud

[clever wagon]

WOW

[forest raven]

Meanwhile nV is schooling Athena

[toxic yacht]

mfw nV is holding them on koth

mickie on winston

[balmy wolf]

@toxic yacht http://i.imgur.com/dM9T1Is.png

[toxic yacht]

oi, thanks

[balmy wolf]

VAC Taimou

[toxic yacht]

fuckin timo

on fire

clipping that

[vestal mortar]

Taimou widow is just too much

I don't even

[forest raven]

Wow

[balmy wolf]

mickie on winston lol

[forest raven]

They played around that dragonblade amazingly

[clever wagon]

Someone said KEPHRII >>>>>>>> TAIMOU

[toxic yacht]

yeah

that blade

playaround

[clever wagon]

I said Keph won't be able to make Taimou's BK Stars game

[toxic yacht]

man, nV is so good

[clever wagon]

NV WINNING KOTH HERE WE GO

[toxic yacht]

💖

[clever wagon]

GASM

[balmy wolf]

Kephiri>Taimou?!? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

[toxic yacht]

lol, a lot of people say that

[vestal mortar]

Lol

[clever wagon]

They watch too much pub competitive heroes

[balmy wolf]

like people say moonmoon is able to compete in pro lol

[clever wagon]

Pub heroes ain't shit compared to actual pro players

[toxic yacht]

mfw a bionade dooms an entire team

Ana is balanced

👍

[pine star]

[clever wagon]

META REIN JUST FUCKING MELTED

Mickie proving he plays Zarya at a high level too

[forest raven]

Saya killed like four of nV while the rest of his team was dying lol

[pine star]

Mickie now reminds me of his Zarya from the wc

...remind me to never say World Cup as wc ever again

._.

[toxic yacht]

lol

[forest raven]

That was really good by Hoon

[clever wagon]

watching in faculty lab with 144p

[toxic yacht]

ShaDowBurn was so good

in wc

👀

[clever wagon]

Oh it's back to source

[toxic yacht]

meta remembering that they are a KR team

[clever wagon]

So I suppose the Tournament Realm is really new

[toxic yacht]

and winning koth

[vestal mortar]

I like big boops and I cannot lie

[toxic yacht]

they just blew 3 ults...?

[balmy wolf]

spawnkilling lol

[forest raven]

Spawn camping nV lmao

[toxic yacht]

man, fuckin illios is so chokey

[balmy wolf]

HAHAHAH

Chip strat

[clever wagon]

Harry's Reaper is out and they managed to take the point

[toxic yacht]

LET IT RIIIIIIP

oh god

[clever wagon]

HARRY 3K DEATH BLOSSOM

[toxic yacht]

I missed this

[clever wagon]

BEYBLADE

[forest raven]

BEYBLADE

[vestal mortar]

YES

[clever wagon]

HARRY MAKING REAPER WORK AS ALWAYS, THE GOD REAPER

[toxic yacht]

I love how nV is the only team that still runs beyblades

[clever wagon]

Proof of superiority

And authenticity

85-89

[toxic yacht]

dat graviton bait

from mickie

[forest raven]

Cocco no

[toxic yacht]

he baited that he was going left

then went right

also, rip

[vestal mortar]

Nuuu

[balmy wolf]

tfw cocco shatters a shield

[forest raven]

Again

[toxic yacht]

KR being KR and winning koth

[clever wagon]

FUCK

[forest raven]

Cocco :|

[clever wagon]

Close, close

[toxic yacht]

Cocco unleashing his inner reinforce

[clever wagon]

Fuck those smugs

I want them destroyed

RREEEEEE

[balmy wolf]

"We make KOTH bo3 because matches will last too long" Whole tournaments last months

cant tell if coco is happy, sad, depressed...

[forest raven]

All three

:|

[balmy wolf]

😐

cocco face

[clever wagon]

M I X E D E M O T I O N S

[forest raven]

HULK running Zen yes

[clever wagon]

I think this is where NV sets themselves apart for me

[vestal mortar]

Whoa, that was real nice

[forest raven]

First push ayy lmao

[balmy wolf]

harryhook use the ulti only to recharge

[clever wagon]

Slow but steady, durable pushes where they keep themselves from dying

[forest raven]

DoA LUL

[vestal mortar]

HAHA

[clever wagon]

I've been spoiled by ZP and Hex

[forest raven]

I think Athena's gotten like one kill so far

Finally won a fight

[clever wagon]

Taimou has genuinely good aim AND switches as needed

Taimou on the gorilla scientist 😮

I better get on my way home quick

[forest raven]

Man

Meta wasted 4 minutes

[vestal mortar]

https://twitter.com/C9Surefour/status/835074274687778817

😮

[balmy wolf]

honestly, nv is not playing that good

[pine star]

Gotta leave for work FeelsBadMan

[balmy wolf]

dont come here for spoilers

[pine star]

I'll watch the vods later

[vestal mortar]

👌

[pine star]

Let me know if Misfits throws

[toxic yacht]

Lane is just salty because he lost vs a team that was throwing

[balmy wolf]

no

you have to watch it 😛

[vestal mortar]

Haha

[toxic yacht]

He's like "We can beat Kongdoo"

[pine star]

😢

[balmy wolf]

HAHAHAHAHA

[vestal mortar]

Reinforce retweeted Surefour 😛

[pine star]

[toxic yacht]

Misfits probably won't throw anymore, they're past that FaZe (see what I did there?)

[vestal mortar]

Ayyyy

[balmy wolf]

i think same time

both got 1st point

[forest raven]

If nV performs like this in quarters, I honestly think that they're gonna get rolled by LW and LH

[balmy wolf]

use graviton only for harry lol

[forest raven]

And then Harry ulted

By himself

With no support

:|

[vestal mortar]

Sayaplayer's visor LUL

[sour wraith]

lucio owned taimou

[vestal mortar]

Luci-owned

[balmy wolf]

omg twitch chat is so cancer

[forest raven]

If nV loses the hybrid map

3-0'd by Athena

[vestal mortar]

Harry!

kris the killer Lucio

[balmy wolf]

draw

so koth

[vestal mortar]

Maybe Envy really will get 3:0'd D:

[balmy wolf]

yes

last push

[forest raven]

If Athena can break nV's defence on first push when nV is such a defensive team

Then teams like LH and LW that have dive down to a science will dominate them

[balmy wolf]

CLOWN 9 HAHAHA

super defensive lol

[forest raven]

I'm just disappointed

[vestal mortar]

😭

[balmy wolf]

guys

bb NA>KR meme

[vestal mortar]

#PrayForEnvy

[forest raven]

Time for another 3-0 lmao

[balmy wolf]

i dont want to trigger anyone, but im cheering for meta

[sour wraith]

does nV have to win or can they throw

[balmy wolf]

they can throw

but they get payed more if they win

300 if you lose, 900 if you win iirc

[forest raven]

If nV get 3-0'd here, by Athena

[sour wraith]

but will throwing make their next matches easier

[forest raven]

They won't take a single point against the stronger teams of LW Blue and Lunatic-Hai

Those two teams basically have dive down to a science

And Athena broke nV's defensive power through their flanking death ball

[vestal mortar]

Indeed, I see what you mean.

Ooh Meta Athena on a winstreak too

[toxic yacht]

Huh, nV throwing, apparently

[vestal mortar]

I didn't know they were undefeated in the 2 previous tournaments too

[toxic yacht]

Mfw people say that KR is behind NA

[vestal mortar]

Kris strikes again!

[forest raven]

Yeah nV's getting held

After their momentum was shafted by Kris immediately

[vestal mortar]

Yeah those boops have been perfect

[umbral palm]

God I hate this map

Graviton??

[balmy wolf]

mickie?

[forest raven]

MICKIE

[balmy wolf]

hello?

[forest raven]

SDFGBHSG

[umbral palm]

Did mickie just butterfinger the graviton?

[vestal mortar]

I think so

D:

[forest raven]

nV has tilted harder than RunAway

Calling it now, Athena snowballs 2nd point cap with 6 minutes on the clock

[umbral palm]

^

RIP

[toxic yacht]

anyway, if nV doesn't full hold it's likely gg

because koth

[vestal mortar]

Yup

RIP Envy
Does this mean they are 2nd in their group?

[toxic yacht]

kinda annoyed that the draw system has a KR bias, but koreans just happen to be super good at koth

and yeah, nV goes second then

ayyy, harry

[umbral palm]

WP Harry!

[vestal mortar]

holy crap

[forest raven]

Oh hey

Harry did something

[toxic yacht]

mfw you can make a massive missplay an ana just heals you up

[forest raven]

I feel good that I was proven wrong

But Athena could still very well win

[toxic yacht]

I hope you're proven wrong :/

But nV is likely gonna lose

[forest raven]

They didn't snowball with 6 minutes on the clock

But nV hasn't won a 2cp

And they lost their best gamemode lmao

[toxic yacht]

and if they draw it's koth

[umbral palm]

2 ticks

[toxic yacht]

which is a free win for Meta

[forest raven]

Oh they got it

Yeah they won

[toxic yacht]

rip

[forest raven]

3-0 LUL

[balmy wolf]

rip

[toxic yacht]

fuckin lol

Was it vonethil who was underestimating KR teams?

lol

mickie still smiling 👍

[balmy wolf]

If envy lost today

Misfits will win

[forest raven]

LUNATIC HAI AND LW BLUE ARE GONNA HAVE BY MATCHES IN QUARTERS AGAINST THESE GUYS

[vestal mortar]

Yeah, Mickie is always so positive :' )

[balmy wolf]

100%

[dry vessel]

Envy lost

[toxic yacht]

eh, at least nV knows how it feels to lose these days

they've been somewhat struggling lately anyway

[forest raven]

They're gonna get AF Red'd in quarters lmao

LW and LH are laughing all the way to the semis

[dry vessel]

They said that these guys were on an 18 win streak

[forest raven]

Yeah, from Challengers onwards

Challengers is the series for determining who gets into the main event, p sure

Besides the top teams from the previous season and foreign teams

[dry vessel]

Nv is currently ranked 1 right?

[forest raven]

Gosu rankings are arbitrary

[dry vessel]

Too good for a rookie team tbh

[forest raven]

They heavily favour past wins and stuff like that

Like

IMT is rank 2 atm

NiP is rank 3

[dry vessel]

Ok but still one of the top teams in the world

[forest raven]

They were

In the previous meta

If their performance against Athena is anything to go by, dive-oriented teams like LH and LW, who are in the same quarters group as nV will dominate them

[dry vessel]

Yeah nvs comp seemed kinda stale

Always relying on Harry to solo dps

Plus that lucio was just dominating him

[toxic yacht]

They need a projectile dps tbh

I wonder if they're already missing Talespin

[forest raven]

They need Mickie from the WC

[toxic yacht]

Lol

[forest raven]

When he could play Zarya well

Hoon fucking schooled him

Let alone Mickie's own problems

Ulting the sky, for one

[dry vessel]

Too many gravs seriously

[forest raven]

Hoon got ult faster than Harb does and he had Nus' support the entire time

[dry vessel]

Yeah he could solo grav coz he had too many

[toxic yacht]

ayyy

ma bois misfits

[dry vessel]

Any ideas on what comp could have been better to counter them?

[toxic yacht]

I'm scared

[dry vessel]

Zen and pharah for hoon and the lucio seems good to me

[forest raven]

The only thing I have to say to Misfits is "F"

[toxic yacht]

http://i.imgur.com/tBaW9Kr.png

[clever wagon]

GOT HOME IN TIME TO SEE MAH BOIS

WHAT WAS NV VS META RESULT

HALP

[forest raven]

3-0 Meta Athena

[toxic yacht]

nV fucking...

I have no idea what

[forest raven]

They're gonna get AF Red'd

[toxic yacht]

maybe put harry back on lucio

and mickie on dps?

I have no idea

[solid spear]

Still mad this caster thought healers get ult charge for self damage

Wild

[toxic yacht]

Apparently Harryhook is among the best shotcallers in ow

[clever wagon]

K

That's enough

I don't want to hear any more of that...

Sigh

[vestal mortar]

I have pizza and prayers to help me through this match

[clever wagon]

I don't even have dinner ready yet

[forest raven]

With just how fucking ridiculous Lunatic-Hai and LW Blue are at dive

It's just

How are nV gonna do anything

[toxic yacht]

tajun and dean

you damn right he's not as good as TviQ

[solid spear]

The hero pool for Envy is just awkward

[balmy wolf]

rip envyus
got destroyed by Meta Athena

[dry vessel]

@forest raven taimou is gonna try to snipe tracer and genji I guess

[solid spear]

No projectile dps meng

[clever wagon]

Reinforce is a fucking tower

[toxic yacht]

he's 2 meters

[dry vessel]

@solid spear Yeah my solution was pharah with zen

[clever wagon]

Miro's Reinhardt is also often on point tbh

[toxic yacht]

oi

reinforce with the shittalk

[umbral palm]

Kom så bjergaber!

[forest raven]

so desperate

Have some confidence man

You're the best team in the tournament

[vestal mortar]

hahaha

[forest raven]

I think it's time to fly the KongDoo flag tbh

[vestal mortar]

I welcome our new KongDoo overlords

[dry vessel]

When's Lh match starting?

[forest raven]

Now

[vestal mortar]

Now

[toxic yacht]

now

[umbral palm]

now

[vestal mortar]

heh

[toxic yacht]

I love miro's face

lol

[clever wagon]

Jehong's hair is a bit messy unlike the usual :/

[dry vessel]

Ryujehong hype train choo choo

[clever wagon]

They all look a bit messier tbh

[vestal mortar]

Just out of bed

[forest raven]

Too many hookers and blow after watching that nV match

[vestal mortar]

Ilios againnn

[umbral palm]

is it ever not ilios?

[cunning gate]

hype hype

[forest raven]

Yeah it's been the other koth maps a couple times

[toxic yacht]

@balmy wolf you ready for this?

I'm scared

;_;

[umbral palm]

haven't seen oasis

[toxic yacht]

oasis happened

[cunning gate]

Who are you guys rooting for?

[forest raven]

My heart says Misfits

[toxic yacht]

nevix on dps again

👍

[forest raven]

My brain says Lunatic-Hai

[umbral palm]

Svenskdjævlerne

[toxic yacht]

aand he's on lucio

wow

TVIQ

ayyy

[balmy wolf]

I GET IT

Also what happened with nV???

[toxic yacht]

they god 3-0d

and guys

good ow gameplay again

[balmy wolf]

I know but how?

[toxic yacht]

I missed 70% of the match

[vestal mortar]

Ehh some of the maps were pretty close

[forest raven]

After all that

Misfits only got 21%

[toxic yacht]

dat hook

[balmy wolf]

:c

[toxic yacht]

HOLY SHIT

fuckin miro

[forest raven]

LUNATIC HAI IS FUCKIN UNSTOPPABLE

[umbral palm]

it's like star wars

but with monkeys

[wheat karma]

That fucking jump

[vestal mortar]

Holy Miro

[toxic yacht]

NA DRAGONBLADE

[dry vessel]

Yeah miro just did something. I feel sorry for misfits

[toxic yacht]

ayyy

[forest raven]

Well they haven't been 100-0'd

So better than I thought

Man

Misfits has basically all 6

[toxic yacht]

mannetens threw

[forest raven]

And they just let LH cap

[umbral palm]

Tviq played that amazing tho

[toxic yacht]

they did surprisingly well though

[balmy wolf]

Yeah, at least they didn't get destroyed

[clever wagon]

Is LH the only team with lowest Roadhog pickrate by far

[toxic yacht]

tviq on 76 again

👍

[forest raven]

One more round of Ilios

[dry vessel]

Yeah well it looked like miro was toying with them

[toxic yacht]

whoru throwing

[forest raven]

And LH will guarantee the three way tie if they lose the rest of the games

[toxic yacht]

lol

[balmy wolf]

U guys watching a match rn?

[toxic yacht]

yep

http://player.twitch.tv/?channel=ognglobal&html5

[balmy wolf]

Oh! Thanks for the link

[toxic yacht]

this is without twitch chat though

https://www.twitch.tv/OGNGlobal

with chat

[wheat karma]

tbh it's better without

:^)

[toxic yacht]

^

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/uhIB9/f61a15fc6f.png

[wheat karma]

NA ult

[toxic yacht]

misfits is magical

also, tviq played 13 heroes during season 2

13

all dps heroes

[wheat karma]

o damn

[toxic yacht]

• roadhog

[forest raven]

Misfits is so much better than nV it's great

[toxic yacht]

like, tviq is insane

[balmy wolf]

Visor...

[toxic yacht]

why did he aimbot?

[forest raven]

Please don't get reverse swept

[balmy wolf]

Too greedy to finish the map maybe?

[forest raven]

Please please please

[toxic yacht]

I think he got too greedy, yep

[umbral palm]

REINFORCE

[toxic yacht]

stopped paying attention

[balmy wolf]

Gottem

[toxic yacht]

wtf

[wheat karma]

Wooo!

[toxic yacht]

MISFITS

[forest raven]

Damn

[toxic yacht]

AYYY

[wheat karma]

Nice work Misfits!

[forest raven]

MISFITS WON A ROUND ON KOTH

[clever wagon]

Re1nforce Reinhardt on point

[vestal mortar]

Feels amazing

[forest raven]

THIS MEANS SO MUCH

IF THEY CAN WIN KOTH

[toxic yacht]

I'll need to clip that miro kill on mercy

[forest raven]

OH MY GOD

[balmy wolf]

How will it be decided if it's a 3-1?

[clever wagon]

Misfits Dreamhack days coming back

[dry vessel]

Miros rein was meh

[clever wagon]

Misfits getting a 3-1 means LH won't get to the playoffs at all

I think

[wheat karma]

The mouse spins D:

[forest raven]

Misfits get a 3-1 they go to three way tie

[toxic yacht]

3-0 means no playoff

[clever wagon]

Ah

[forest raven]

Misfits get 3-0 no playoff for LH

[toxic yacht]

3-1 is tiebreaker

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

How will that tiebreaker work?

[toxic yacht]

mfw esca throws by going soldier

round robin

[balmy wolf]

I'd like to see that tbh

[forest raven]

When a team goes 2-0, the round robin tie breaker ends

[toxic yacht]

me too, I want LH and Misfits to go on

[balmy wolf]

LH's got this though probably

[toxic yacht]

jfc look at those ults

[balmy wolf]

^

Has Nevix even hit a sleep dart this match? lol

[umbral palm]

BO3..

[dry vessel]

That pulse bomb was so smooth

[balmy wolf]

Nice

[forest raven]

HOLY SHIT MISFITS

[clever wagon]

Holy shit

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/WinstonsLab/status/835091637558788096

[clever wagon]

What the fuck, 1 minute cap

[balmy wolf]

Is LH just nervous are Misfits this good now?

[clever wagon]

Well, they did say

This is basically solid dive comp vs ultimate flexibility & unpredictability

[balmy wolf]

WHAT IS THIS?

[vestal mortar]

Wow

[clever wagon]

See, Zebbo switching Zarya-Hog, Mannetens Tracer-Hog, Tviq rotating Pharah/Genji/S76/Mccree

As good LH gets, they're not that flexible

[forest raven]

FIVE MINUTES ON LAST

[balmy wolf]

Tviq overextending again...

but they should finish this in a decent time still

[clever wagon]

There it is, nano-graviton Hog combo

[forest raven]

@toxic yacht THEY'RE DOING IT

OH MY GOD

[umbral palm]

WOO

[clever wagon]

Misfits is really rolling LH

Holy shit

[pine star]

ARE THEY?

[balmy wolf]

????

[clever wagon]

Fuck

[forest raven]

THIS MATCH IS INSANE

TOBI IS INSANE

MISFITS IS INSANE

[toxic yacht]

tobi just doing tobi things

[forest raven]

NONE OF THESE TEAMS DESERVE TO BE LEFT IN GROUPS

[umbral palm]

LH with graviton

[toxic yacht]

I won't say "They doin it" because 2cp is still a thing

:/

[umbral palm]

lol

that graviton failed

[clever wagon]

Sure4 with his predictions

[toxic yacht]

TviQ on Cree

[clever wagon]

https://twitter.com/C9Surefour/status/835074274687778817

https://twitter.com/C9Surefour/status/835090501250383872

Welp

[forest raven]

Holy fuck Whoru

[balmy wolf]

This choke omg

[umbral palm]

bastion

[pine star]

I WANT TO GO HOME GODDAMMIT

[balmy wolf]

loooool

[clever wagon]

JEHONG

Oh god

[forest raven]

OH MY GOD

[clever wagon]

There's that clutch sleep again

This is why Jehong is Ana God

[umbral palm]

caster

haha

[balmy wolf]

He's saying what we're all thinking

[umbral palm]

I was worried for a second I missed the attaco

[vestal mortar]

Me too! I had to restart my internet haha

[forest raven]

Oh my god

The fact

[clever wagon]

Youtube highlights are confirmed misinformations and misleading

[forest raven]

That this is a group stage game

And not a semi

Or a grand final

[dry vessel]

Everyone is dspstanky today...

[clever wagon]

There is only 1 Ana God

[forest raven]

Is an affront to esports

[balmy wolf]

@toxic yacht sorry, was unable to type on phone for some reason

the only way to get out is 3-1 😐

[toxic yacht]

fuckin hell, internet went tos hit

:/

[balmy wolf]

and jehong is a fucking ana god

[toxic yacht]

had to restart router

choke?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

he sleepdart tviq

dunno how

[forest raven]

Ryu slept electric cowboy

[toxic yacht]

and yes, jehong's ana is 👌

[forest raven]

On the last push

[toxic yacht]

mfw tviq's aim

[balmy wolf]

Tviq = Grim

[forest raven]

OH MY GOD TVIQ

[dry vessel]

With nano

[vestal mortar]

TVIQ!!!

[toxic yacht]

there is a reason why I say that tviq is the best dps in overwatch ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

oi, dat barrage

was orgasmic

[forest raven]

Tviq is the best player in the world

He can play HALF THE FUCKING CAST at a pro level

[clever wagon]

From now on any Youtube highlights that claim "top Ana" or "Ana God" or any other shit not showing Jehong is downright invalid, misinforming and misleading

[balmy wolf]

Misfits has ults at least

but wtf

[toxic yacht]

mfw blizzard and tivq almost kills mei

[clever wagon]

Nobody, and NOBODY pulls shit as tight on Ana as Jehong

[toxic yacht]

lmao whoru

[forest raven]

Whoru just fucking kills everyone

[toxic yacht]

holy

[forest raven]

I am on the edge of my seat

[balmy wolf]

Why does chat keep laughing when a player resets?

[forest raven]

This Misfits

This Misfits would have beaten LW Blue

[balmy wolf]

YO

[toxic yacht]

dis tense af

[balmy wolf]

welp

[forest raven]

WHORU OH MY GOD

[balmy wolf]

whoru carry

[forest raven]

Misfits

[vestal mortar]

omg!

[forest raven]

Goodbye

My friends

[toxic yacht]

na graviton

[clever wagon]

It's Twitch chat

[forest raven]

You don't deserve to go

[toxic yacht]

rip

[balmy wolf]

gg

[toxic yacht]

:/

[balmy wolf]

rip

[clever wagon]

Most of them are dumbasses

[wheat karma]

RIP Misfits

[vestal mortar]

rip misfits 😭

[clever wagon]

It's rather safe to assume they don't know shit first tbh

[balmy wolf]

At least we'll still see Runaway in play offs

🕯 Here lies Misfits 2016-2017 🕯

[toxic yacht]

fuck

[forest raven]

FUCKING NV

ENVYUS

GOES TO QUARTERS

[pine star]

Are Misfits throwing or just getting outclassed?

[forest raven]

AND MISFITS DOESN'T

[toxic yacht]

mfw group B is trash

[forest raven]

Outclassed

Barely @pine star

[pine star]

It's a close match at least?

[balmy wolf]

Not anymore

[clever wagon]

Outclassed tbh

[forest raven]

If it's a 3-0

[toxic yacht]

they'd have rekt LW Blue if the match had been today

[forest raven]

It's a fucking close 3-0

[toxic yacht]

:/

[dry vessel]

#still gonna pray?

[clever wagon]

Misfits is definitely playing better than NV vs Meta

[toxic yacht]

misfits deserves this more than nV tbh

[balmy wolf]

It doesn't matter anymore now

[toxic yacht]

if Fnatic makes it through

I'll be so fucking salty

[vestal mortar]

Miro's jumping on Ilios -> https://clips.twitch.tv/ognglobal/AdventurousLlamaCorgiDerp

[toxic yacht]

thonks

[vestal mortar]

Yeee

[toxic yacht]

now I don't have to do it

tbh I don't even wanna continue the match

:/

[mellow lance]

MIROOO

[clever wagon]

Miro just has Winston like he controls himself in real life

[vestal mortar]

Awww

[forest raven]

I think Whoru is the best Genji in the world

And Ryu is a contender for top Ana spot

If only Chips had a good team

[clever wagon]

"Contender"

[pine star]

"Contender"

[forest raven]

If Chips had teammates of the calibre Ryu does

[balmy wolf]

Why is everyone hating on nV suddenly after they lost?

[pine star]

Not hating

[forest raven]

Because Misfits is a better team

[dry vessel]

Yeah the match was way better and entertaining than the previous

[pine star]

But you gotta accept that Misfits is probably a better team than Envy but won't have the chance to prove it

[forest raven]

Like goddamn, this is a semi or grand final game

But nope, group b has three grand final teams

[balmy wolf]

That's because they were fighting for their last chance

[dry vessel]

They were in the audience though

[forest raven]

And before coming to Korea Misfits had NiP and NiP alone to scrim against

Like

This Misfits would have beaten LW Blue

[clever wagon]

Which is definitely FAR from LH or even LW Blue

[balmy wolf]

If they can't beat the top teams at their best they would've gone down like this in play offs too

[forest raven]

The thing is

NiP is a good team

But they never play dive

NEVER

And that's what Korean teams favour

[pine star]

They've played quad tank since before it was meta

[clever wagon]

Well, not always dive

[balmy wolf]

and the fact that they lost against LW but are playing well enough to beat them shows they're inconsistent too

[clever wagon]

But definitely not triple tank ALWAYS FOREVER

[balmy wolf]

Why didn't they play like just now then?

[forest raven]

I already said

They only had NiP to scrim against before coming to Korea

They had no dive experience as a team

[clever wagon]

At the very least Korea has the DPS more dominant than some triple tank build

Panthera probably has higher triple tank usage than the rest by far

[balmy wolf]

Yeah but that's just making up excuses for why they lost, not a reason for why they're a good team

[clever wagon]

Miro just has this perpetual smiling face

[pine star]

They lack cohesion in my opinion

lol I just want a Cocco vs Miro face showdown

[forest raven]

I thought nV had world class cohesion but against Athena they looked like a fish out of water

[balmy wolf]

Imagine getting knocked out in groups and then still having to play 2cp

[dry vessel]

I liked tviqs plays better than taimou and Harry tbh

[clever wagon]

@forest raven exactly

[toxic yacht]

seriously, whoever approved this groups can swallow a raw frog

[balmy wolf]

That match didn't even matter tbh

[vestal mortar]

ew

[clever wagon]

Swallow a live octopus and choke on it

[balmy wolf]

I didn't see the match, but we'll see how good they are in play offs

[clever wagon]

Like that old case, also in Korea, I think

[dry vessel]

Escas sneaky flanks and that genji hook bait though lol

[forest raven]

If nV continues like that, they're not getting a single point against LW or LH

[balmy wolf]

Like Misfits lol

...too soon?

[forest raven]

Misfits has gotten multiple points against LH

[pine star]

Yeah, EnVy comps have been all over the place

[wheat karma]

The Scientist Ninja Warrior

Wow

My spelling

pls

[balmy wolf]

Time will tell

D.Va ❤

[toxic yacht]

ana so balanced genji needs to waste half his ult to kill ana

[forest raven]

Well I definitely fly the KongDoo flag now

[balmy wolf]

Which one?

[fleet urchin]

why not both?

[forest raven]

I'd say Uncia

[fleet urchin]

lol tobi

[forest raven]

Panthera's group was so easy

Well they took it

[clever wagon]

TviQ carry wasn't it

[forest raven]

Not that it matters

[vestal mortar]

Tobi \o/

[dry vessel]

Koreans make plays that I don't understand at all really

[clever wagon]

How come?

Holy shit WhoRU

[forest raven]

Best Genji in the world

[fleet urchin]

really wants that best genji kr/world title

[balmy wolf]

Pretty sure LH is just memeing now lol

[pine star]

The kid's a monster

How's the match going?

[balmy wolf]

2cp

[forest raven]

Misfits been stalling for a minute

[toxic yacht]

this gamemode is so cancer

lol

[fleet urchin]

misfits has respawned like 3-4 times...

[vestal mortar]

longest fight ever

[balmy wolf]

That only took 3 minutes

[toxic yacht]

"2CP is fine"

[pine star]

Just 2CP things

[toxic yacht]

"Let's force people to play them in tournaments"

[balmy wolf]

Whoru got like 3 Dblades in that fight lol

[forest raven]

"People will like 2CP, they just need to play it more."

[balmy wolf]

That was still pretty sick from LH

[clever wagon]

"IT JUST WILL WORK TEEHEE xdddd"

[balmy wolf]

To stay concentrate and outplay for that long

[pine star]

Maybe it's just LH playing with their food

[fleet urchin]

lost two, but still got the reinforcements

[forest raven]

Lunatic Hai got like 30 kills and Misfits got three

[pine star]

Like a cat with a rat

[forest raven]

In that whole fight

[fleet urchin]

misfits got a whole 19 second advantage off of that though

[vestal mortar]

Esca trying to be Taimou

[forest raven]

Why am I still watching this

[toxic yacht]

esca

[fleet urchin]

46 shots, 1 kill.

[pine star]

Everyone is trying these days tbh

[toxic yacht]

please never play widow again

and yeah, dunno why I'm still watching this, lul

[fleet urchin]

1 death can change everything.

[toxic yacht]

I don't even like 2cp

[forest raven]

I just want Misfits to move to Miami and crush in the next AMM

[balmy wolf]

Both teams are probably throwing at this point

[fleet urchin]

miro needs to coordinate a bit more with his primal rages

[forest raven]

Can't wait for AMM finals to be full of European players lmao

[vestal mortar]

I am still watching because I don't want to have to go grocery shopping yet

[toxic yacht]

kek

[pine star]

Questioning Miro's Winston

[toxic yacht]

can this match finally end?

🙃

[forest raven]

LH's superiority as a team is really shown in the stall

[clever wagon]

There you go

[forest raven]

Because they keep killing Misfits' players over and over

[balmy wolf]

Thank god for that

Yeah okay

Tobi is playing Mercy without Pharah

[clever wagon]

Tobi memeing now

[pine star]

LUL the memes are real

[vestal mortar]

At least it's not Ryujehong on Mercy

[clever wagon]

WhoRU on Hog WHUT

[dry vessel]

Lol commentators are really rubbing it in misfits face

[pine star]

They just need to put Ryu on Lúcio and they'll reach Korea World Cup memes levels

[toxic yacht]

mfw af blue makes it to the fucking quarters

but misfits doesn't get out of the groups

[clever wagon]

TOBI

DONT MEME

[vestal mortar]

OOOOH

[toxic yacht]

tviq's genji makes me so wet

[clever wagon]

THIS IS WHY

Man

They're definitely memeing

[balmy wolf]

This map is just one big LH flex

[clever wagon]

Today shall be remembered

[balmy wolf]

gg

[toxic yacht]

yay, it's finally over

[vestal mortar]

;_;

[pine star]

3-0d already?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

[gritty crow]

;____;

[pine star]

Welp

When is the funeral?

[toxic yacht]

AF BLUE IS MAKING IT OUT OF THE GROUPS

[balmy wolf]

They played pretty well for 2 maps but after that they seemed mentally broken

[toxic yacht]

REMEMBER

[forest raven]

I don't blame them

[balmy wolf]

tbf they beat Misfits

[fleet urchin]

pretty hard to stay motivated when youre just knocked out of the tourney

[forest raven]

LH is definitely the better team

[clever wagon]

Fuck AFBlue

[forest raven]

But imo Misfits, with Korean practice under their belt, is better than LW Blue

[pine star]

Fnatic hype anyone?

[forest raven]

Also better than AF Blue

[toxic yacht]

lol

[forest raven]

Also better than nV

[toxic yacht]

if fnatic makes it through too

[forest raven]

Also better than RunAway

[pine star]

They won't

[balmy wolf]

Yeah but they didn't have that this tourney and their group was tough

but again, they wouldn't have stood a chance if they faced a team like LH in play offs

Maybe next season

[forest raven]

The best Misfits could have achieved would be semis

[balmy wolf]

^

[forest raven]

They wouldn't be able to beat LH to get to the grand final

[clever wagon]

REMEMBER https://puu.sh/uhM9R/d11864c67d.jpg

[dry vessel]

So Nv fnatic and c9 are the only non Korean teams left?

[vestal mortar]

It's burned into my mind

[balmy wolf]

C9 can still get in?

[forest raven]

C9 has to beat Uncia to get through to quarters, Fnatic has to beat RunAway

[pine star]

Fnatic will not defeat RunAway

[balmy wolf]

I have no confidence in C9 but Fnatic maybe

[pine star]

That is a fact

[dry vessel]

Korea is too strong man ;_;

[clever wagon]

I want to post that snip to r/cow so bad

[forest raven]

You can write Cloud9 off tbh and Fnatic will most likely lose

[vestal mortar]

C9 are not beating Uncia

[clever wagon]

Fnatic "maybe"

[fleet urchin]

c9 need to do better than 3-1/0 to move on?

[forest raven]

C9 needs just a win

[toxic yacht]

more like "misfits could literally only practice vs one comp"

[forest raven]

Because AF Blue lost to CONBOX

[balmy wolf]

No because the other got upset

[clever wagon]

Can we like, pin https://puu.sh/uhM9R/d11864c67d.jpg

[forest raven]

@quartz wren Pin that ^

[pine star]

That's just sad

[clever wagon]

Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY shall remember today

No one shall be spared

[vestal mortar]

Never4get

[pine star]

I think I'll join Monte on the Korean hype wagon

[quartz wren]

I'd rather pin it in text format

like the previous results are

[forest raven]

This is to shame nV

[balmy wolf]

At least groups are almost over now

[quartz wren]

lol

[forest raven]

Nothing more

[balmy wolf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic yacht]

get ready for even more stomps

[forest raven]

You mean the 3-0 merry-go-round?

[pine star]

https://youtu.be/ggqCHWlydgU

[toxic yacht]

because fucking

af blue

is in

lol

what a fucking joke

[vestal mortar]

Yeah I am happy at least that some Western teams will be going home soon 😛

[toxic yacht]

yay, Misfits is back to doing nothing and only scrimming vs NiP

[forest raven]

Dude group b of quarters is gonna be Uncia v Panthera and them getting by matches every time they go up against AF Blue and the other team

[toxic yacht]

because EU doesn't exist, apparently

[paper pebble]

yeah home as in "in NA" :p

[dry vessel]

I don't like 1 country dominating though tbh

[forest raven]

That's esports

Korean domination

[paper pebble]

I feel like it's still up in the air for OW. The OWL may change this

but that's naive of me 😃

[forest raven]

NA orgs are just gonna pick up Korean players come OWL

They have the cash

[fleet urchin]

they already are

[wheat karma]

The thing is

[pine star]

Will the Korean teams be in OWL being NA only?

[wheat karma]

The reason why Korea gets the best players

[paper pebble]

@fleet urchin really?

[wheat karma]

is purely beacuse of the philosiphy over there

We just don't have it in the west

[forest raven]

OWL allows teams to pick up players regardless of nationality

[pine star]

I know

[forest raven]

So they play for a city or what have you, but the players don't need to be from there

[pine star]

But I mean stablished Korean teams

[forest raven]

NA orgs can buy out the contracts

[pine star]

Say Lunatic Hai

[fleet urchin]

if what i've seen in scrims happens, then yes. some crazy pickups but I worry about the language barrier for koreans playings with 4 NA playuers

[vestal mortar]

🤔

[forest raven]

Even though esports is bigger in Korea, NA orgs have more money than the KR orgs

[paper pebble]

It's lol esports all over again

[fleet urchin]

except it doesnt take 3 seasons for the korean imports

[dry vessel]

Well it's just not the west. No other Asia country competes with korea

[paper pebble]

Not sure about NA having more money than KR in esports

[forest raven]

NA's big

[dry vessel]

Na does for sure

[forest raven]

A whole lot more economically superior to KR

[fleet urchin]

NA has ridiculous money getting funneled into esports. Korea just has a stupid infrastructure

[balmy wolf]

NA simply has more people in their country too

Way more

[fleet urchin]

15-17 year olds getting scouted and contracted for years until they turn 18 and can actually compete?

[dry vessel]

It's called the country of immigrants for a reason

[fleet urchin]

NA can't ever do anything close to that

[forest raven]

Korean teams scrim 12 - 16 hours a day, have all their nutritional needs etc. mapped out for them by the orgs

Western teams just don't have that dedication

[fleet urchin]

dont know about 12-16 hour scrims.

[forest raven]

Completely different cultures

Probably not 16 hours

More than 10 for sure

[fleet urchin]

burn out is real and I don't think the koreans are that intensive

[dry vessel]

Um really? I thought csgo and Dota was dominated by NA

[forest raven]

Koreans don't give a shit about csgo

[fleet urchin]

the lw red and lh managers I got to talk to say about 6-8 hours

[solid spear]

Csgo is mostly EU honestly

Top teams that is

[fleet urchin]

LH had a damn good 1.6 team back in the day

imagine if Korea gave a shit about CS 10 years ago

[forest raven]

I just want Misfits to move to Miami already and stomp in the AMM's

Honestly I'm more hype for the upcoming AMM than I am quarters of APEX

[toxic yacht]

pretty much, lol

[forest raven]

Hammers, IMT, RNG and Rogue 2.0

Yes please

[dry vessel]

Well I want other countries to participate too so that games are less 1 sided and more fun

[forest raven]

And the next AMM will have NRG 2.0

[vestal mortar]

Indeed! 😄

[dry vessel]

Iddqd and seagull <3

[forest raven]

And (maybe, probably, hopefully) Harbleu

Having Harb as a reliable off tank means Seagull can do his projectile things

[dry vessel]

So hoon esca and whoru basically

[forest raven]

Yeah p much

Just not as good

Well idd may be better than Esca

Seag's def not as good as Whoru

[dry vessel]

But his hanzo and pharah are better

[solid spear]

I mean

He might be better of stuff that isn't Genji

[dry vessel]

Both counter genji well

[solid spear]

Hanzo is pretty irrelevant

[dry vessel]

;_;

[forest raven]

Also triple tank of Rein/Zarya/Hog if Harbleu comes on

[dry vessel]

With haebleus zarya too?

[forest raven]

Harb's Zarya is better than his Hog

And Seagull plays Hog in the pro environment

[solid spear]

You'd assume Harb would be on Hog if they're triple tanking

His Hog is far better than seagulls

[forest raven]

Yeah

Harb's Zarya and Hog is better than Seagull's

[dry vessel]

So many people are still doing 3 tanks and everyone was like it's dead and stupid

[forest raven]

But I feel like they'd rather Harb on Zarya because Zarya can do a lot more for the team than a Hog can, if they choose to triple tank

[solid spear]

No one said it's dead

It's just not like prevalent

And mandatory

[forest raven]

Triple tank was used all the time even before D.va was buffed

[dry vessel]

Only saw seagull on zarya/genji/hanzo in pro matches

[solid spear]

Yeah idk how anyone could blame D.Va for tank meta

When tank meta was a thing when D.Va was ass

[forest raven]

Seagull's major skill lies in his projectile

But he's said he plays Roadhog and I think(?) Soldier as well in scrims

But don't quote me on that

[dry vessel]

Seagull does a decent Mei as well I think. Would work well against lhs comp

[forest raven]

Yeah he plays Mei too

[vestal mortar]

Seagull has been scrimming Pharah, Roadhog, Zarya, Soldier, Genji, Mei, Hanzo. I believe he said on stream a few weeks ago.

[forest raven]

Bam, there it is

So yeah, Seag's the main flex for NRG

[vestal mortar]

Indeed! He has a good hero pool.

I'm not sure if some of those heroes were from when they were trying Seagull on off-tank and trying new Projectile DPS players. I suppose it depends on whoever they end up picking up.

[dry vessel]

Unlike taimou?

[vestal mortar]

I never compared Seagull and Taimou. I guess there wouldn't be any harm in Envy having more projectile dps in their hero pool though.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dry vessel]

Exactly might have helped a lot today

[forest raven]

God

nV

Like a fish out of water

[vestal mortar]

Harry, Taimou and Mickie all can play hitscan dps

[dry vessel]

They didn't though and left poor Harry with that demonic lucio

[vestal mortar]

idk if they are going to transition Taimou over to projectile. He has played a bit of Genji in the past.

[forest raven]

idk what nV needs to do tbh

Then again I'm not exactly a good player

[vestal mortar]

me too

[dry vessel]

Pharah and discord works for zarya and lucio

[forest raven]

nV's known for their team cohesion but it honestly seemed like they had very little today

[dry vessel]

Well taimou wasn't getting value hooks so the whole dps burden was on Harry who kept getting booped out of positiin

[vestal mortar]

Yeah the Korean Lucios today did a real good job

[dry vessel]

Yeah it kinda looked like they were memeing

[vestal mortar]

Kris 1v1'ing Taimou's Widow LUL

[forest raven]

nV doesn't have a reliable Pharah, Genji, Tracer, or Zen

AKA, dive comp

[dry vessel]

Exactly they didn't have heroes to focus down a lone lucio

[forest raven]

And HULK's Lucio isn't at a reliable level compared to the other Lucio players

[dry vessel]

Well... They gotta learn :P

[forest raven]

Yep

Mickie needs to get back in the groove of Zarya and dps

Because his Zarya play today was shoddy

i.e. he grav'd the sky

Literally

[dry vessel]

And taimou should stop relying on piggy all the time?

Lol

[vestal mortar]

On the other hand Hoon's Zarya was 👌

[dry vessel]

He was trying to copy hoon maybe

Hoon did a lot of roof gravs. Poor Harry

Harry was trying so hard today

[forest raven]

Harry needs a deeper hero pool

[dry vessel]

Must have tilted

[forest raven]

He seemed stuck in 76 and Reaper

[dry vessel]

Um I think the others had to change

[quasi python]

So whos win the match today?

[forest raven]

3-0 Meta Athena

3-0 Lunatic Hai

[dry vessel]

As a solo dps option

[forest raven]

nV got rolled

[quasi python]

So misfits out?

[dry vessel]

Those 2 are kinda like the most reliable ones

Yep

[forest raven]

Misfits is out

And AF Blue is in

xd

[pine star]

http://i.imgur.com/C8IwgByh.jpg

[forest raven]

Mhm, yes

So many 3-0's

So great to watch

At least in NA tournaments there are upsets and close games

[pine star]

Yeah

NA meta is crazy right now tho

[forest raven]

I'm more hype for Carbon and AMM than I am APEX quarters

[pine star]

All aboard the Hammer hype train?

[forest raven]

Rogue 2.0 LETS GO

But when NRG 2.0 is fully realised

🙏

[pine star]

AMM is gonna be nuts

[forest raven]

This AMM is gonna be fun

March's AMM is gonna be amazing