esports-discussion

[pine star]

Can't use emotes from mobile FeelsBadMan

[balmy wolf]

[forest raven]

Conbox is so boned omg

Have to play against Uncia

Though Panthera and RunAway will be good

[forest raven]

APEX Season 2 Group Play resumes in 10 minutes @ https://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal with CONBOX Spirit playing KongDoo Uncia and KongDoo Panthera playing RunAway

[junior copper]

What's going on with NRG right now?

[forest raven]

Massive internal restructuring

Testing out 2-3 spots

Expect news within the next few weeks

@junior copper

[junior copper]

@forest raven Thanks I just really want seagull to be on a good team

[forest raven]

Hopefully he will be now

[clever wagon]

MISSED THE FIRST MATCH BECAUSE CLASSES HAVE STARTED AGAIN

WHAT'S THE FIRST MATCH I FORGOT WHAT TEAMS THESE PEOPLE ARE

Uncia vs...

Conbox Aha

Also Flash Lux getting sponsorship 👌

[forest raven]

Uncia stomped Conbox

As expected

[clever wagon]

Ye

Figured as much

SUSPENDERS VS PINKS they ask?

Hacksal (y)

[forest raven]

@toxic yacht The trash talk is amazing

This is brilliant

[clever wagon]

Goddamn

These shots

[balmy wolf]

I'd also forgotten there was APEX today

[clever wagon]

Every Tuesday and Friday tbh

Korean time

[forest raven]

"Wakwaka is flex, and should have a speciality, but he doesn't, he has no speciality"

[balmy wolf]

Unfortunately such shitty times... but oh well

[toxic yacht]

am not watching atm

trying to fix my internet

[forest raven]

rip

[balmy wolf]

Good luck with that man

[clever wagon]

The fuck is with this filler talk

[balmy wolf]

omg

wow

[clever wagon]

This caster chat holy shit

No holding back

[balmy wolf]

Those epic close ups lol

Wait is KotH bo3?

[forest raven]

Yep

[balmy wolf]

wtf

[wet ingot]

I wanted to let you know the Overwatch Arena prizepool has increased to $820! Would love to see you guys compete in this week's points cup!

https://arena.razerzone.com/tournaments/details/3912/overwatch-arena-by-the-plays-4

Let me know if you have any questions!

[clever wagon]

I'm in SEA with plat SR ripperonis

[forest raven]

Even games

[balmy wolf]

I'm plat too

[clever wagon]

Rip Runaway

Not looking too good\

[balmy wolf]

That's the power of Torb

[forest raven]

WHA

RASCAL'S SO OP

[balmy wolf]

damn

[forest raven]

HE KILLED FIVE PEOPLE

GGF

[clever wagon]

5K Mei soon?

[balmy wolf]

Destroyed

[forest raven]

I swear if this is another 3-0

APEX will officially have the worst group balancing of all time

[balmy wolf]

There's a few questionable TO decisions tbh

Like the one round of KotH tiebreaker

[forest raven]

There have been two 2-3's out of every game played so far

TWO

And they're both in group a

And from the looks of things there's gonna be five 3-0's by the end of tonight

[balmy wolf]

LW vs LH could've also been the finals too

[forest raven]

Six, actually

[balmy wolf]

I wonder what they used to seed

aaaand it's over

[forest raven]

This shit is so boring omg

[balmy wolf]

Yeah and why does the group stage take so fucking long??

[forest raven]

Korean esports

[balmy wolf]

Do they make more money like this?

[forest raven]

No idea

I guess it's to emulate more traditional sports

But fuck that

[balmy wolf]

amen

[clever wagon]

I heard this is also broadcasted on their TV

Idk

[forest raven]

Nearly every game has been nV vs. FaZe and AF Blue

[balmy wolf]

Poor Koreans have to turn on their TV to watch these 3-0s

[clever wagon]

Just like every other big E-Sports there

[forest raven]

After the next games are played on the 10th with the western teams I think we'll have a good idea of who's getting out of groups

Well, after the 14th actually

nV's gonna roll BK Stars, Misfits will probably beat AF Red

[balmy wolf]

I'd hope so

[forest raven]

If they lose with that roster after so much practice something is terribly wrong

idk about C9 vs. AF Blue

Uncia made short work of them but it is Uncia

[balmy wolf]

I've never seen them play tbh

[forest raven]

C9 or AF Blue?

[balmy wolf]

Didn't they have a huge winning streak a while back?

AF Blue lol

[clever wagon]

AF Red > Blue tbh

In this Apex at least

[forest raven]

AF Blue has been sloppy

[clever wagon]

No idea about S1

^

[forest raven]

AF Blue got to the finals of Season 1 because their group didn't have Lunatic Hai, nV or Uncia in it

Or Rogue

[balmy wolf]

Is Uncia really that good? I've never seen them either

[clever wagon]

They're that good

[forest raven]

Uncia 3-0'd old Hai in season 1

[clever wagon]

Way better than Panthera imo

[forest raven]

It was a really fuckin close 3-0

And lost to nV 3-2

Because eichenwalde

[balmy wolf]

Damn

[forest raven]

And no one beats nV on Eich or Gibraltar

[clever wagon]

But Hai didn't have Whoru and Zunba back then

[forest raven]

Yeah

[clever wagon]

Fuckin' Hai gathered all best 4 of SK world cup team

[balmy wolf]

AF Blue did take one game off them

[forest raven]

Zunba is a top 3 Zarya and Whoru has shown his power on Genji

[clever wagon]

Tairong is a coach and ArHaN didn't shine as much as he did back then

[forest raven]

Yeah, AF Blue pulled a win on Volskaya

We know they're better than Conbox

I think C9 can pull a win against AF Blue with Surefour and Gods on the roster

[clever wagon]

Wtf is with that bad push

[forest raven]

RunAway throwing for skins

3-0

[clever wagon]

Kox got Kaiser shield still up, why not take care of Mei...

[forest raven]

😴

At this point I expect Uncia, Hai, LW Blue or nV to win the whole thing

[clever wagon]

Is that-- lol

[forest raven]

Depending on how C9 performs

[clever wagon]

Rip

Runaway done

[forest raven]

RunAway

[balmy wolf]

It's already over

[forest raven]

This was a bigger stomp than Uncia and Conbox jfc

[clever wagon]

I think RunAway's mental already dropped somewhat since first map

Bigger than RunAway - Flash lux

[forest raven]

Last games lasted until 12:30am

It is now 11:20pm

And it's already over

🔫

[clever wagon]

Tbh though

[balmy wolf]

It had to have been the shirts

[clever wagon]

Rascal is yet another up and coming star

Just massive work every damn time

Shit

[forest raven]

Yeah

What a shit six games

[balmy wolf]

NV is next though

[forest raven]

nV and Misfits

Let's go

Though nV's gonna 3-0 BK Stars

[balmy wolf]

I don't really care about Misfits tbh

[forest raven]

I just want Misfits to succeed

[clever wagon]

BK Shuriken

[forest raven]

They have such a stacked roster

They have Nevix on support for fucks sake

[clever wagon]

Don't feel like rooting for Misfits

Zebbo has been such a mess

For some reason

[forest raven]

Zebbo threw in that Gibraltar game against Blue

Wouldn't budge off Widow

[toxic yacht]

inb4 team was telling zebbo to get off widow

[clever wagon]

Idk

[toxic yacht]

but he was like "fuck you"

[clever wagon]

But from what I've been hearing recent Misfits aren't as fun as they were in Dreamhack

[balmy wolf]

Apparently Kungarna is no longer with Ghost anymore lol

That only took like a week

[forest raven]

Ghost is

idk what Ghost is

This random org popped up, signed Kungarna, then they leave after the WP

[balmy wolf]

Who even knows

They probably found a better org from the looks of their Twitter

[forest raven]

They're a good team

Skillwise

Personality wise

Just don't let Mykl talk

[balmy wolf]

What's wrong with him?

[forest raven]

Watch the pregame interview for the WP final

[balmy wolf]

omg hearing these casters again...

[forest raven]

kek

[balmy wolf]

Oh yeah

I'd forgotten about the braces...

Thank you for the reminder

[forest raven]

👀

[solid spear]

I mean there were the TSM rumors

[forest raven]

Like TSM would pick up Babybay

[solid spear]

Well the rumors were the 3 who left would be going to TSM

It's less clear now with the others leaving Ghost but

Who knows

[balmy wolf]

Didn't TSM sign Code 7 before?

[forest raven]

I believe so

Promptly dropped after the TJO's history was revealed

[solid spear]

Yeah

Complexity was TSM for like 2 or 3 weeks

And the TJOs history was known long before they ever signed

[balmy wolf]

Yeah, after that I doubt they'd sign Babybay lol

[toxic yacht]

Kek, there's no way that they weren't aware of the TJOs history

[solid spear]

Oh they even said they knew

[fast ferry]

Lunatic hai

[clever wagon]

What about Lunatic-Hai

[clever wagon]

What the fock https://puu.sh/tTLch/e04f714ec9.png

[supple nymph]

@balmy wolf BK Stars vs EnVyUs?

[toxic yacht]

are you really asking?

[balmy wolf]

[balmy wolf]

http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/news/42834-rubikon-sharyk-likely-to-replace-winghaven-onigod-in-reunited @toxic yacht

I totally missed this lol

[cursive bloom]

i need to be unmuted

[balmy wolf]

what

[toxic yacht]

Hpw did you miss this?

Also, TwoEasy in the picture

kek, rip old reunited

[balmy wolf]

I didnt check Gosu often back then

;-;

[limpid moon]

https://www.youtube.com/Ecko2056

[clever wagon]

BK Shuriken

[frank frigate]

Good morning everyone, i just posted the reddit discussion thread for the Meta Report. Looks pretty balanced!! although its too early to tell if its just that post-balance patch honeymoon peroid or if this varied usage is here to stay. Let me know what you think in the comments!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5stmk1/overwatch_hero_meta_report_the_meta_that_was/

[toxic yacht]

Probably just post patch honeymoon

[frank frigate]

lol nice avatar

[wanton bronze]

I wonder how long this recent ptr patch will stay up as well and if the changes will shuffle things around again. Feels like after this patch we need things to settle for a while and we need to see what the big teams pull out

[jagged crater]

is this the most "balanced" the meta's ever been?

[balmy wolf]

Ehh

[toxic yacht]

ehhh, wait a few weeks

gosu monthly + apex quarters, especially quarterfinals+ should give you a pretty good idea about the meta

we had fuck loads of tournaments constantly happening since Atlandtic Showdown

so we could easily see meta developments

atm we have some monthly shit + 4 apex matches a week

[dapper hazel]

I play for Bench Boys, we are a newly made team. We need a group of grandmasters to competitively scrim against my team and I. Feel free to ask to join the scrim.

[jagged crater]

mercy at 6%, she doesnt need a buff anymore!!!!!

[toxic yacht]

just delete mercy

then make a new hero

call her mercy

[jagged crater]

but mercy is qt, dont delete her 😦

[toxic yacht]

I can't really disagree with that point

[thin elk]

Still think she needs a weird cleanse because of yesterday

Thanks @dusty surge

[dusty surge]

Hah

[thin elk]

Ruining my day because she will never be viable again 😢

[dusty surge]

Now if only I could present that to someone at Blizzard.

[jagged crater]

Koreans were using Mercy without a Pharah and still did ok

[toxic yacht]

the only reason why I want mercy being viable is because I play a ton of pharah

[jagged crater]

so koreans might think of somethin iunno

[toxic yacht]

if it weren't for that, good fucking riddance, lul

[thin elk]

Koreans are just OP

[jagged crater]

it's still early honeymoon phase i agree, everyone just experimenting with shit mid-match

[toxic yacht]

EU skill is still more op than KR skill atm

[jagged crater]

it was similar before triple-quad tank meta became standard

[toxic yacht]

if those fucking freedom people wouid stop stealing our teams

[thin elk]

Lol

[toxic yacht]

first IDDQD EnvyUs

[thin elk]

At this point every team will be an EU team

[toxic yacht]

then Rogue

[jagged crater]

hard to say, good korean teams destroy every EU team

[toxic yacht]

Now they could potentially steal Misfits

[jagged crater]

from what we've seen

[toxic yacht]

eh, Rogue was destroying everyone before the three way trade

[thin elk]

And now they are freedom guzzlers

[jagged crater]

Rogue lost to envy after envy got mickie

this is pre-trade rogue

[toxic yacht]

rogue lost because they got metafucked + mickie

they didn't adapt to the new meta

and cmon, this meta perfectly fit envy

[jagged crater]

well now let's see how envy will play under this new developing meta 😃

[thin elk]

I wouldn't have wanted to adapt anyways

[toxic yacht]

Envy will still be amazaing

[jagged crater]

havent seen envy play in a while, im hyped

[toxic yacht]

I'm pretty confident in that

on friday

Envy is gonna destroy bk stars

I wanna see it

[jagged crater]

i cant stop reading bk stars as burger king stars

makes me giggle a bit

[thin elk]

Yeah

We need a team called the Kings, and have them all walk around everywhere with Burger King masks

[toxic yacht]

sponsored by KFC

no

#video-content

[feral sparrow]

ok srry

[warped summit]

Hey everyone check out my pics from Apex 2 tuesday night http://imgur.com/a/oUrCI

[limber pine]

https://www.over.gg/2805/kungarna-players-to-merge-into-splyce

@balmy wolf ^

[toxic yacht]

wut

[balmy wolf]

What even

http://i.imgur.com/mgO8NK6.png

Hm

I'm happy the last two remaining were Pyyyour and graceful

Also rip the TF2 team

[dusty surge]

No primary DPS? Shrub team.

[stark plinth]

no genji main? bad team confirmed

[thin elk]

Oh no

Graceful

[balmy wolf]

whats wrong with graceful

[thin elk]

I thought you said he was always too happy

Or someone did

[balmy wolf]

Yeah he's really positive

That isnt a bad thing :v

[solid spear]

His positivity hurts my soul

[toxic yacht]

THE PLOT THICKENS
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5sv75j/im_a_korean_and_its_most_likely_leetaejun_is_a/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=Competitiveoverwatch

Will this drama ever end, lmao

Apparently Tajun is innocent

lmao

[thin elk]

Sounds like the plot thinnens tbh

[balmy wolf]

If what she says is that's pretty disgusting of her

Basically threw her friend's profesional carreer in the trash because of her selfishness

[pine star]

OMFG

Is this real?

[balmy wolf]

Yes

[pine star]

Excuse the language

[dusty surge]

What language?

English?

[pine star]

But what a slut

Fucking disgusting bitch

I mean

What the actual fuck

How could she do that?

This is almost on the level of girls accusing a guy of raping only because they didn't liked them back or something fucked up like that

I shitted a lot on Tajun, now I feel bad, poor guy

[frank frigate]

Around the Watch episode 5 featuring Numlocked -- talking NRG tryouts, Meta, and more ~ https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2017-02-09-around-the-watch-episode-5-i-want-to-know-how-the-hell-you-win-a-game-of-earthshatter-chicken

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/Dracceus/status/829438360737312769

Guess making a team is too much for Art1er and Draceus

lul

[clever wagon]

S2 Group phase isnt even finished and they're already starting S3 challengers wut

[forest raven]

Gotta be efficient

[balmy wolf]

http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/18649812/boston-bruins-take-dive-esports-splyce

[toxic yacht]

huh, interesting developments

[dusty surge]

Now they can have a subpar OW team to go with their subpar NHL team!

[limber pine]

rip

[balmy wolf]

I wish all of Kungarna stayed together :c

At least Splyce is better now lol

TSM straight savaged my boy @Ajax1OW -Babybay on Twitter

Now deleted post

[jovial eagle]

wait a minute

Bruins are subpar?

[dusty surge]

Yeah.

Wait... lemme check the standings

They're not even in a wild card slot as of today.

[jovial eagle]

but they won

rip

[dusty surge]

They're behind Philly this year, and Philly's a garbage fire.

[jovial eagle]

anyways, esports need more money

[dusty surge]

This is true.

[jovial eagle]

good team or not, its good certain companies are 8interested in investing

its like the Yankees

[dusty surge]

Companies behind "traditional" sports getting into esports gives it a lot more legitimacy, which is always nice.

[jovial eagle]

drops so much money and never win

good good business though

yep

I still think there should be a coherent league of some sorts

[dusty surge]

OW League, coming soon (tm)

[jovial eagle]

maybe fps league, moba lleague rts league

no one knows what overwatch league is yet

hopefully it's good

[scenic ruin]

Hopefully

[balmy wolf]

How about that

https://beta.blizztrack.com/overwatch_tournament

[dusty surge]

And what does that tell us?

[balmy wolf]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spjvcc

[forest raven]

So is TSM ever gonna research their players before picking them up?

[balmy wolf]

At least they didn't pick up the entire Kungarna roster and realise 2 weeks later that 2 of them hacked in CSGO

and then dropped them

Still retarded though

auTSM

Watching the rerun of Ireland vs Germany

Man that was unfair lol

[solid spear]

That whole Code7 thing was dumb tbh

[balmy wolf]

Well yeah but

Not taking a team because some members have hacked in other games

is more understandable

[solid spear]

Poor Ajax though :/

[balmy wolf]

Yep

[clever wagon]

So BenchBoys is going for the 3v3 tourney

[toxic yacht]

Huh, okaaaay, interesting

[clever wagon]

Oh wait I thought it's all lower than tier 2 teams

[balmy wolf]

[clever wagon]

But there are also Spicy Bois and FaZe... Is this the FaZe?

[toxic yacht]

Think so

They've fallen so far

Lmao

[forest raven]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5t5x1f/harbleu_just_announced_on_stream_that_hes_leaving/

[clever wagon]

So Sojum you're embracing Daddy Jehong I see

Oh shit

[forest raven]

RIP coL

[clever wagon]

Where's he going then

Rip coL [2]

[forest raven]

Nobody knows yet

[balmy wolf]

Holy

fucking

shit

coL

[clever wagon]

He's NA not EU right

[forest raven]

ye

NRG Harb when

[clever wagon]

NRG pls

[balmy wolf]

Wait shit

Was the 3v3 tourney streamed?

[clever wagon]

I think it was

No idea where though

[balmy wolf]

Oh lol

CLG was in it too

[clever wagon]

Wait they are?

Lol

[clever wagon]

Doesnt Harb like deserve the tier 1 scene?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

well

high tier 2

coL isnt tier 1

[balmy wolf]

Just a reminder

BK Stars vs Envy starts in 10 minutes

[balmy wolf]

fucking auTSM

guess they didn't learn that over reacting is not healthy for them 😒

• cough * sgares * cough *

[forest raven]

PREPARE FOR GET REKT @balmy wolf

[balmy wolf]

Sieh dir diesen Clip an! OGNGlobal spielt Overwatch! https://clips.twitch.tv/ognglobal/CrazyHerdSmoocherZ

let's see how they play in this new patch

What's going on??

[vestal mortar]

I'm happy to see Mickie on Zarya again! 😄

[forest raven]

nV's like the Borg

[clever wagon]

Lool 1-0 already?

BK Shuriken Throwing Stars

[forest raven]

BK's currently holding on KR first point

Less than 2 minutes left for nV

Finally capping

[clever wagon]

DADDYHOOK CARRYHOOK DOING IT AGAIN ON REAPER???

[vestal mortar]

That deflect!

[balmy wolf]

nV is still not looking very good so far...

[forest raven]

nV is not performing well on their best mode

And they won koth against Koreans

[clever wagon]

I mean

Is DVa really so shit this patch for even Mickie to play her?

[balmy wolf]

Cocco was playing her earlier

[clever wagon]

That shatter

Gasm

[balmy wolf]

loooool

At least they still... got it

[clever wagon]

Loool hulk special t-shirt?

Here we go DaddyHook daddy 76

Watching in uni lab lul

[forest raven]

Carpe

Is so fuckin cash

[balmy wolf]

Grimreality confirmed

There we go

[vestal mortar]

Wow!

[forest raven]

Sombra plays ❤

Carpe is so fuckin great

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

[forest raven]

I'm a Carpe fanboy now

[vestal mortar]

That was a really interesting Sombra play! I liked it even though I wasn't sure how that EMP was gonna go.

[balmy wolf]

Unfortunately they'll only play this and the next match

[forest raven]

PROVE AND CARPE OTP

[vestal mortar]

Taimou has good aim 🤔

[forest raven]

Dinkin heads for days

[vestal mortar]

Chips is my hero!

That was so close

[balmy wolf]

Not another 3-0 at least

As long as nV destroys them now still

[forest raven]

Taimou 🤔 Good aim 🤔

[balmy wolf]

Goodness

I feel like showering after that

[digital roost]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ogn_ow/QuaintMonkeyPeteZarollTie

[grand needle]

that was ridiculous

lmao

[mossy stratus]

Taimou is lowkey better than Kephrii

[forest raven]

nV throwing for skins

[vestal mortar]

Haha the sign

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about Kyky coaching them

[balmy wolf]

Predictions?

Also this trailer is pretty fitting after that match just now lol

[forest raven]

3-2 Misfits

[balmy wolf]

3:0 Misfits

Hmmm

[vestal mortar]

Yeah I was thinking 3-2 Misfits too. As long as Zebbosai has learned when it's time to switch off the Widow. 😛

[balmy wolf]

If Misfits loses this it'll be quite disappointing considering their roster

So I'll say 3-1 Misfits

[vestal mortar]

Indeed, I have been trying to keep positive about the big roster swap so I am still hoping they'll win.

[forest raven]

Oh Tviq is so small

[balmy wolf]

Why do AF Red have 7 players?

[forest raven]

Flexible roster

[vestal mortar]

Some Korean teams have more people and substitute between rounds/maps

[forest raven]

Lunatic Hai had 8 before the drama happened

[clever wagon]

FUCK I CAN'T WATCH LIVE

AAAAAA

Zebbo

[clever wagon]

Misfits winning o.O

Finally pulled their shit together?

[forest raven]

TIME TO WATCH MY BOY REINFORCE ULT SOME KOREANS

[clever wagon]

See, it's good to see Misfits like this

[pine star]

Did EnVy win?

[clever wagon]

I think so

Only managed to watch Kings Row round for a bit

Just got home to catch Misfits live

[forest raven]

nV won 3-1

[pine star]

Get ready for some throws

[forest raven]

Misfits currently 2-0 against AF Red

[pine star]

Oh god that airshot

[clever wagon]

Misfits looking better than their previous matches?

[forest raven]

Yes

Well

Match

For APEX, at least

[pine star]

Zebbo start throwing yet?

[forest raven]

2CP EL OH EL

[clever wagon]

ZEBBO WIDOW BACK AT IT?

[vestal mortar]

Back at it again!

[silk agate]

Misfits is like "well we gotta stop playing around" 😂

[clever wagon]

His initial pick was high value, but to be fair AF Red also pretty much threw

[vestal mortar]

\o/

[clever wagon]

Very shabby defense right after Navi was shot down

[silk agate]

Agreed

They didn't know whag hit them

[quasi python]

lol throw

[clever wagon]

Ye

Threw hard

[silk agate]

At some you gotta realize when it's lost and just have some fun

[clever wagon]

LOL

Them Zebbo masks

Zebbo got himself a fangirl LOL

[vestal mortar]

Hahaha

[forest raven]

Be like Attune

[clever wagon]

Holy shit Re1nforce tall af

I wanted to say NA/EU superiority but to be fair none of them have faced the LH/LW Blue/Uncia caliber powerhouses

Still a long way to go

[forest raven]

I think Uncia will beat C9

And Panthera has already 3-0'd Fnatic

[clever wagon]

Zebbo beard best beard all over Apex

[forest raven]

Nah Ryb tbqh

[clever wagon]

I just hope C9 will be able to put their talent to solid work

Zebbo first for me, Ryb next

[forest raven]

C9 can either go the triple dps set up or keep Surefour on Zarya/Gods on Hog

[clever wagon]

nV did win right?

[forest raven]

Yes

3-1

@clever wagon

They are going to the playoffs now, no matter the result of their match against Meta Athena

[clever wagon]

Naisu

I'm rooting for nV to stand their ground regardless of the meta

Oh god this internet

It was friggin smooth watching live

Buffers every 3 seconds watching the vod now

[dusty surge]

link?

[clever wagon]

Vod's are always on OGNGlobal's twitch

What link

[drowsy arrow]

misfits were 👌🏻

[clever wagon]

It was refreshing considering the impression I got from their first game

[vestal mortar]

Indeed, I really enjoyed watching them, they really impressed me and did better than I had anticipated! 😄

[clever wagon]

AF Red isn't the most powerful and/or consistent team on the block, but it's a start

Dreamhack Winter was my first time knowing that they're around

I thought it was awesome how they showed plays that fit their name, running triple dps like the misfits they are among triple tank meta

And TviQ wasn't even in Misfits yet back then iirc

I hope they can bring back that glory haha

[toxic yacht]

Misfits back then was a completely different team

the last remaining members are Zebbo and Nevix

[clever wagon]

Ye

[jagged crater]

good to see misfits doing well

the extra time trained together is working great. Can't wait to see how misfits/envy do vs each other or top korean teams like LH

[pine star]

https://twitter.com/franetheman/status/830039951970545664

OMG this actually happened lmfao

Need to see the VODs asap

[balmy wolf]

Misfits isn't through yet

[dusty surge]

Why is one person sitting behind everyone else?

[limber pine]

he's the high priest

[dusty surge]

o

[toxic yacht]

team captain is supposed to sit behind everyone

or shotcaller, to be specific

ryu stopped sitting behind LH though because he's used to looking over to his teammates screens when calling

[jagged crater]

it's an interesting setup but I think most teams are used to shotcaller sitting in the middle of a row of 6

[dusty surge]

I wonder if we'll ever get a 7th person on the team that's allowed to sit behind them with no system of their own, but just look at everyone's monitors and make calls.

[balmy wolf]

tfw you say "reminder Envy vs BK stars starts in 10 minutes" and you dont watch it

[balmy wolf]

So Winghaven is the 6th on Bench Boys

[dusty surge]

Did he get picked up by Kyb in #ow-d? :P

[limber pine]

[balmy wolf]

lul

[toxic yacht]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ognglobal/WanderingOxEagleEye

[balmy wolf]

roasted

is it just me or does zebbo sound like teo

[toxic yacht]

Swedish accent probably

Mute and Lena also sound a bit like him

More so mute than Lena

Dragory and Mikhail also sound like Taimou

[balmy wolf]

Its uncanny to me

the "any of their names, sorry." part

sounds exactly like him

[limber pine]

http://www.carbonentertainment.com/2017/02/10/carbon-entertainment-presents-overwatch-carbon-series/

[balmy wolf]

👏🏻

I need to get into that server

But i have no idea how to get into contact with slasher lul

[limber pine]

he's on twitter

[balmy wolf]

This is gonna be good though

Basically Tier 2 the Tournament feat. Immortals

[toxic yacht]

In other words, Immortals gonna smash

Again

[balmy wolf]

I dont think it will be that easy lol

[toxic yacht]

NRG Harbleu would be nice

[balmy wolf]

Buut

coL without Harb

Also jkw?

I thought he was gone tbh and Wing replaced him

But then Wing goes to BB

[toxic yacht]

Harb was half the bread on why I liked coL, and no, WH was only there for tryouts

[balmy wolf]

jkw was playing on Tempo Storm though

During Haste

[toxic yacht]

They put him off the active roster and tried out WingHaven, dunno what happened after that

He'd probably need a buyout, and there was no major news of jkw officially joining another team

[balmy wolf]

ZP and Hex are casting Carbon

[toxic yacht]

No Uber no re

[pine star]

"Prepare for get rekt"

• Mickie, 2017

[toxic yacht]

kek, when did he say that?

didn't watch today's match

[pine star]

Before the BK Stars match lol

I'm watching the VODs just now

[toxic yacht]

kek, reminds me of TviQ during the Rogue vs ReUnited finals at gamescom

seltzer interviewed tviq and morte asking them about the upcoming game

TviQ was like "I'll be disappointed if we don't rek them"

[pine star]

The funny thing about this one is not the quote itself, but Mickie's stellar engrish lol

[toxic yacht]

mickie's english is the best

lul

[balmy wolf]

Poor Reu

The 2nd Place Curse

[toxic yacht]

They were the best in EU at some point, but never won a major

lul

[balmy wolf]

I want the old days back

Reu, Rogue and Misfits beating eachother

no number 1

[toxic yacht]

And NiP

don't forget NiP

[balmy wolf]

Meh

NiP wasnt there

[toxic yacht]

before they became the best one trick pony ever

[balmy wolf]

They were good but it was the top 3 constantly beating eachother

It was after that when NiP came in

With their fucking 3 tanks

[toxic yacht]

fucking zappis

started this shit

[balmy wolf]

⚡ 🔫

[toxic yacht]

I love the guy, but I will never forgive him

EU would have been so good if FaZe and Rogue would never have left and we'd have fucking tournaments

[balmy wolf]

[pine star]

Taimou on Winston

Wat

[toxic yacht]

Taimou is flex, has been playing winston since apex

went flex after tale left

plays harambe too

[pine star]

Yeah I know

But

It's funny

He flexes from Winston all the way to Widow lol

[toxic yacht]

yeah, I know, it always feels weird af when he picks him

but huik is too busy being brazillian music man

[waxen root]

tfw an NA tournament gets announced, non-invited NA teams are complaining that the "wrong" teams were invited, and EU is still sitting on the bench eating lunch waiting for a tournament 🇪🇺

[balmy wolf]

what teams are complaining lol

if any teams lower than tier 2 were invited they would get fucking crushed

[pine star]

^true

[toxic yacht]

Those guys have newly amped up monthly melees anyway

Lol, NA teams have no idea how great they have it atm

[waxen root]

Rise is complaining

[toxic yacht]

Ah, Team "We got invited overseas and to MLG Vegas"? Lul

Tbh they'd get crushed anyway, looking at the teams participating

[pine star]

lmao

Rise is tier 3

Omg, Taimou's Widow

So nasty

[balmy wolf]

poor rise haha

pretty disappointed doe Carbon is just NGE 2

no EU

ripperino

[clever wagon]

No wait Harb leaving coL already confirmed?

I thought they said it's a joke

[balmy wolf]

Nope

[clever wagon]

Holy shit

But that carbon series

Interesting

ZP & Hex oo

Hammers, Immortals...

[forest raven]

@toxic yacht Bet you're happy about Misfits' performance last night 👀

[clever wagon]

So

Taimou & Mickie

[pine star]

They're all a big orgy since Mickie joined

[forest raven]

nV and C9 are the two biggest meme teams

[clever wagon]

Can never have too much memes

[forest raven]

Never

[clever wagon]

I mean hey

As long as they have fun

Memes it is

[pine star]

Prepare for get rekt!

[clever wagon]

They did get 3-1 at least

[balmy wolf]

I just want Carbon ;-;

[clever wagon]

Same

NGE and AMM winner meeting hueheu

[balmy wolf]

Also the Monthly Melee this month

Should be good

[pine star]

We're starting to get lots of competitive now

[balmy wolf]

No EU though

[pine star]

LMAO THE ZEBBO MASKS

OMG I'M DYING

[balmy wolf]

[pine star]

Jfc

I wasn't prepared for this

I think I may just die right now

[solid spear]

https://twitter.com/RisePhaz/status/830155886605660160

[balmy wolf]

Jesus dude

What a dick lol

Rise would literally die if they were EU

[pine star]

lmao the salt

[dusty surge]

They should invite them to the next tournament and feature all of their games just to watch them get annihilated.

[clever wagon]

What a memer

[limber pine]

https://twitter.com/goingroguegg/status/830165200703623170

[toxic yacht]

Yay 🙃

[timber plinth]

hello yall, im creating a team and were beggining to scrimmage toomorrow. im looking to be able to guide myself and my friends into some good team dynamic. do yall have any videos or suggestions for tips that i can find in order to make myself a better team captain?

[balmy wolf]

Who knows, maybe rise improved a lot and they are able to compete

Tbh see them qualify for MSI was really unexpected

[clever wagon]

Another EU team moving to NA

[balmy wolf]

That's sad...

[jagged crater]

i get it

[pine star]

I get it FeelsAmazingMan

[opaque owl]

@toxic yacht https://www.twitch.tv/videos/120947239

[toxic yacht]

Am in the metro atm, will watch when I'm at home

[opaque owl]

it's the 3vs3 tournament

[toxic yacht]

Ah, the entire thing?

[opaque owl]

bench boys played there

i think it's qualifiers or smth

[opaque owl]

group stages

[waxen root]

jeez

rise...

[balmy wolf]

That tweet from Phaz

[limber pine]

https://twitter.com/NRGgg/status/830506793507897344

[opaque owl]

just saw his stream title; nice

[toxic yacht]

yess

fuck yess

The only thing that could make this better is NRG Harbleu

[waxen root]

harbleu and nesh rumored to be joining

[balmy wolf]

Harb back with seag

pls

[waxen root]

looks like a wierd lineup, no support players

[opaque owl]

who is nesh

[waxen root]

eu player was in slav squad

i played with him in a team at some point

it seems really wierd

[opaque owl]

well HAL who is a support in Bench Boys

isn't actually a support main

[toxic yacht]

I still feel bad for skipjack

got fucked over for not being french

is teamless now

[waxen root]

nesh plays either offtank which i think is his best position, but so does harbleu, or he plays genji, but so does seagull

[balmy wolf]

Dummy is a support player

[waxen root]

lucio

ana/zen position is whatever

[balmy wolf]

Numlocked played Supp before aswell

[opaque owl]

i thought it wasn't that uncommon to take onto a support

even if you're not a main

[waxen root]

yea but theres a reason numlocked isnt on support anymore 🤔

if nesh and harbleu join, i dont see the lineup being a major improvement tbh

they keep picking people that dont fit in the team

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[balmy wolf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5tgwor/reuniteds_new_org_to_be_announced_soon/

https://twitter.com/eunitedgg/status/830257032242532352

[waxen root]

yea i knew a week ago lol

[balmy wolf]

Yeah cool

we didnt

[waxen root]

alot of people did, on compow lol

[balmy wolf]

yeah cool we didnt lol

[waxen root]

but polo

it was on the reddit........

in the comments

like a week ago

[balmy wolf]

on what post

[waxen root]

i think it was on one of the ogn games

[toxic yacht]

inb4 it's insider knowledge but he forgot

[waxen root]

nah

i know more about eunited that i cant tell tho

#tease

[opaque owl]

#biggesttease

[waxen root]

well tbf its not really a tease

it has nothing to do with the roster or anything

[toxic yacht]

can't wait until bench boys becomes a tier one team

and they beat faze

before twoeasy gets benched

and makes a new team

In 5 years he will be the founder of half the ow teams

[balmy wolf]

lul

[opaque owl]

what other teams has he founded

[balmy wolf]

WeUnited

2Easy.com

[solid spear]

MY DAD IS SIGNED LET'S GO

[toxic yacht]

kek, based off what veine said community speculation is completely off

everyone is hoping that they pick up grego

[waxen root]

well unless they suddenly became gods (see what i did there) at keeping secrets which never worked in the ow scene... im fairly sure its not grego

harbleu at least is very likely i think as its kinda public knowledge he left col

[vestal mortar]

Yeah I have seen many posts about Harb leaving

[waxen root]

well he said he left on stream, but is still contraced

so him joining nrg is not unlikely as nrg can buy him out (looking at iddqd)

[vestal mortar]

Also if Grego isn't joining, he is a big tease 😭 https://twitter.com/C9Grego/status/830515133059256321

[waxen root]

and if u knew what iddqds buyout is, it kinda makes it really easy to buyout harbleu

[vestal mortar]

I can only imagine haha

[toxic yacht]

NRG is the kind of org that can generally afford such buyouts

[waxen root]

well

lets just say NRG has to start doing something to actually get a good roster

[toxic yacht]

kek

gods and pookz weren't even bad, kinda sad that they left

they had potential

[waxen root]

as much as they can rely on seagull to birng in the money, they primarily want a team and probably an owl slot

[toxic yacht]

and were top 3 in NA at some point

yeah, they kind of need a competent team

and tbh Clockwork NRG was fucking terrible

and embaressing to watch

[balmy wolf]

clockwork :c

[waxen root]

idk why they even tried

i mean

[toxic yacht]

iirc clockwork hates ow

lul

[waxen root]

they know clockwork from tf2 but...

clockwork was in splyce

splyce was a shitshow

and clockwork didnt really impress at all

[toxic yacht]

wasn't he the worst guy on splyce?

yeah, don't know what they were expecting

[vestal mortar]

I am glad they are taking their time with this roster change

[balmy wolf]

I just want to watch his scout and cry in a corner that he left tf2

[toxic yacht]

I guess they were betting on tf2 synergy

[balmy wolf]

😢

[waxen root]

im fairly sure the only reason this roster change is "taking time" is because they're talking to orgs about buyouts LUL

if it ends up being grego then thats even more so true as its another org they have to talk to

[vestal mortar]

Yeah Dummy/Seagull mentioned buyout talks taking some of the time when people were getting impatient about the new roster

[waxen root]

yup

iddqd,harbleu confirmed

[dusty surge]

Why can't these teams just stay together for longer than one event? Jebus.

[silk linden]

harbleu confirmed?

oh boy oh boy

[pine star]

Wait what?

[solid spear]

Yum

[pine star]

What did I miss

[toxic yacht]

ayyyy

[pine star]

What just happened?

[toxic yacht]

I can only get so erect

[pine star]

@toxic yacht BRIEF ME!

[solid spear]

So iddqd confirmed he's NRG

[toxic yacht]

NRG iddqd

[pine star]

....

W

What

[toxic yacht]

and apparently haarb too

[pine star]

What?

[solid spear]

potentially Harbleu as well

[pine star]

WHAT

OMFG

NRG is op now

The fuck

You go to sleep for two hours and this happens

[dusty surge]

Don't worry, next week the teams will shuffle again.

[silk linden]

"nrg is op now" calm down. They are an interesting prospect though

[pine star]

Op I'm telling you

Ok no

But I can't wait to see the new roster play

[silk linden]

Methink esports should adopt what sports do and have transfer windows

no recruiting new players outside fised periods

[pine star]

What won't happen

[solid spear]

Thing is there isn't a set like offseason

[pine star]

Atleast not until the League comes out

[solid spear]

There's no 4 month period where no one plays

Also you can pick up a player at any point in the season

There's a trade deadline but nothing about picking players up

[jovial eagle]

im giving seagull props

must be his personality

im saying shit out of my ass btw

[wicked elbow]

Wait

Iddqd is on nrg??

[balmy wolf]

Yep

[balmy wolf]

tbh I liked Iddqd's Fnatic stream overlay more than his NRG one lul

[silk linden]

can't wait for the Bastion buffs to hit live, Seagull's gonna be all over that

I can honestly see Bastion becoming like a top 5 viable dps

[balmy wolf]

So I take it Rogue will be another Tier 1 team in NA

Along with C9, Fnatic and Envy

And with Misfits likely moving over soon aswell

That's 5 teams in Tier 1

6 if you want to count IMT

[solid spear]

potentially NRG as well if all goes well

could have to redefine what we even consider tier 1

[balmy wolf]

Well IMT has been dominating all teams in tier 2, so I'd classify them as the bottom of tier 1 atm

So Tier 1 in NA right now is: IMT, C9, Fnatic and Envy

with Rogue and Misfits coming in soon probably more like: IMT, C9, Fnatic, Rogue, Misfits and Envy.

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah, how can you not count IMT? Before C9 left for Apex IMT gave them a run for their money and this meta works for them. Guess we will have to see how they perform in the OCS

[balmy wolf]

OCS?

Oh wait wait

Carbon

Got it

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah sorry

[balmy wolf]

Also, back in the OWOpen when Sodipop were just acquired by Immortals, they lost to C9 0-2

And lost to them 0-3 in Monthly Melee November and Carbon Masters November

So they really haven't performed well against them

They also lost to Fnatic 0-2 in the OWOpen

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah but all the teams have changed SO much since the OWOpen, its like watching a different game

I just wanna see more of these teams against each other cause its hard to tell with how teams are split between rando NA tourneys and Apex

Its funny because Im watching IMT in the NGR finals and watching them play these first two maps I would totally put them into T2 XD

And then Grim McCree kicks in and IMT look totally different

[limber pine]

Grim McCree OP plz nerf

[balmy wolf]

Welcome to My Reality.

[tawdry quartz]

It sometimes reminds me of watching Shadowburn carry games on his back with Genji

I think IMT is a little more well rounded

[balmy wolf]

Thats all that FaZe was

Now they're shiiit

[tawdry quartz]

Im curious to see how CoL is without Harbleu

[balmy wolf]

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think they have jkw anymore either

[tawdry quartz]

That sounds right

Idk, so much is up in the air for more than one team

I think they needed to make some changes, but I think losing Harbleu...doesnt fix their issues

[balmy wolf]

It's pretty sad tbh

[tawdry quartz]

agreed

[balmy wolf]

They've had this roster for so long

Back since Code7

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah

I think they may have been the oldest roster around

I hope that their org infrastructure is sound enough to pick up the pieces

CoL has been around so I assume they will be able to

What do you think of TL?

[balmy wolf]

No idea what that is

[tawdry quartz]

Oh, Team liquid

[balmy wolf]

Oh right

I just call them Liquid

They're tier 2

With coL and FaZe

[tawdry quartz]

Yeah

[clever wagon]

Holy shit

I checked iddqd's twitch and 50,000 bits pinned

[balmy wolf]

Thats only 50€

[solid spear]

Yeah

[clever wagon]

Isn't it US$500?

Which is a lot

100 bits is $1.40

50k is definitely not 50 euro

Unless I'm an idiot and exchange rates between USD and euro did change that much, but google tells me otherwise

[balmy wolf]

100000 bits is 100

and 50000 is 50

[clever wagon]

Dude

Really?

[waxen root]

no polo

[clever wagon]

https://puu.sh/tZayK/c8bc554e3b.png

[waxen root]

thats incorrect

50000bits=500$

[clever wagon]

I know because even Ster and Jerma panicked to all hell with people giving them 10k bits

Which is 100 bucks

[balmy wolf]

oh yeah im an idiot

I was thinking of 10k and 5k

[clever wagon]

lul

[dusty surge]

What's a bit?

[balmy wolf]

A twitch donation currency

[toxic yacht]

Uhhhh, IMT beat C9 at the last Melee...

They beat them 3-2 during the finals where GrimmReality got a hook over a fucking wall

[forest raven]

"what" -GrimReality, 2016

IMT also started with a 1 game lead going into the final of the Merry Melee

Because they came from the winner's bracket

[toxic yacht]

That's literally ever melee ever, you could also discredit all c9 wins like that

[forest raven]

That I did not know

[balmy wolf]

Yeah I know they did @toxic yacht

I never said they didnt

[toxic yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nbce4uOacE

[balmy wolf]

https://www.over.gg/2823/nrg-sign-iddqd-will-compete-in-monthly-melee

NRG one of the teams for the new Monthly Melee

[vestal mortar]

Well I don't know if that's for sure, numlocked said that's what they are aiming for but Dummy has said multiple times on stream that they can't guarantee they'll be participating.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial eagle]

harbleu was pretty ambiguous in his stream yesterday about nrg

i think he's looking to relocate definitely, but no destination yet

[pine star]

The Oversight live now with Flame

https://www.twitch.tv/insightonesports

[clever wagon]

When does AMM start

They still missing 2 more players right

NRG

[pine star]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

It said on Gosu it'll probably the last weekend of the month

So I wouldn't expect it earlier than that tbh

[toxic yacht]

#lf-players-na

[toxic yacht]

Blizzard would rather retweet fucking fanart than promote third party tournaments that are in need of attention 🙃

[vestal mortar]

I should do some fan art advertising third party tournaments, wonder if that'd get retweeted 🤔

[toxic yacht]

that sounds like a plan

[jovial eagle]

i think blizzard wants a monopoly on overwatch tournaments

hence overwatch league

[forest raven]

Well they probably think they can do it better than everyone, so yeah I believe it

[clever wagon]

Now that you mention it

Does Blizz really think they can make OW e-sports scene as big as, let's say CSGO and DOTA2?

[toxic yacht]

cs, dota and lol all started super slow

[clever wagon]

What they put out for OWL so far seems really farfetched, regardless of the game's age

[toxic yacht]

ow has a much bigger headstart

there is potential

if they don't fuck it up

[forest raven]

You have to remember that Blizzard has all the money in the world

[toxic yacht]

but it's blizz

I don't trust them

[forest raven]

Yeah I know

[toxic yacht]

bad history with every eSport they got involved with

[forest raven]

Mhm

[toxic yacht]

their most successfull sport, brood war

had no involvement from them

[forest raven]

Yeah, didn't the Koreans just make the all the gametypes or some shit?

[toxic yacht]

they fixed a lot of shit