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toxic yacht
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it'd be unfair to crush all of those teams, lul

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I mean, EU hasn't had a decent tournament in a while

balmy wolf
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All the top teams are transferring to NA for OWL

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And theres been no tournies for those who havent Transferred

toxic yacht
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after the ow open there was pretty much nothing for EU

balmy wolf
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and other teams have died

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ANOX, Melty, Reu

toxic yacht
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while NA gets gosugamers monthlies

balmy wolf
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all dead

toxic yacht
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then mlg

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then winter premier

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and the ow league also isn't helping EU at all

balmy wolf
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Speaking of which, MM tomorrow

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Hype

toxic yacht
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ayyy, I'm hyped

jagged crater
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MM?

toxic yacht
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Monthly Melee

jagged crater
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AMM

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oh ok

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it's been a while

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ZP & Hex back a tit?

toxic yacht
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yup

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zp ma boi is there again

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tbh I forgot that the AMM was a thing

balmy wolf
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really?

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how

limber pine
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Now polo

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Be nice

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Brah

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Gotta watch Spicy Bros

balmy wolf
limber pine
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AAM

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Spicy boys are playing

toxic yacht
limber pine
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Err AMM

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typing is hard

balmy wolf
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so am i

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๐Ÿ˜

limber pine
toxic yacht
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Man, Ryb's earthshatters sucked during the whole game

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He's like Reinforce

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Keeps slamming into those shields

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He's learning from juv3nile

jagged crater
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renegades is in full wtf mode

dusty surge
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Is there a stream going on right now?

jagged crater
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is it karma that rng went on a losing streak after they kicked manofsnow?

dusty surge
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Seriously, am I missing it right now?

jagged crater
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uh this?

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smaller tournament

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for brazil

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_>

toxic yacht
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nah, nothing going on right now

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I was just watching c9 vs conbox at the time

dusty surge
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I'm missing the announcement posts D:

toxic yacht
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and was commenting on ryb's questionable shatters

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twas the vod, I was at school when they played

dusty surge
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Ahhh

toxic yacht
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I love how beemoo keeps linking to the brazillian tourney, lul

jagged crater
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brazilians are players too!

toxic yacht
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sorry, none of us speak portuguese

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btw, snow is brazillian

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so I know that you exist, lul

jagged crater
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that's a DAMN SHAME

toxic yacht
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btw, I'm pretty sure that ManOfSnow decided to leave on his own

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something with only being on tryoutrs etc

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and don't quote me on this, but apparently he wants to go full time streamer after this

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or I at least read some dude say that

balmy wolf
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He left? wow

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ALSO ZP HYPE TONIGHT BABYYYY

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I LOVE ZP

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Tonight?

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Oh wait

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Timezones

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duh

toxic yacht
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yeah, lul, I was confused af

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ayy, perfect

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for you

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that sounds rough

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outch

balmy wolf
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Thanks

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The tourney starts at 2am but I still have one week of Winter break left :3

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What in the world

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When did your break start

thin elk
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Oh my

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That had to have started this month

balmy wolf
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Thats silly

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You have to be off for Christmas and New years

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Yeah, I have a 5 week break because I didn't have any resits

thin elk
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What the fuck

balmy wolf
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B)

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jfc

toxic yacht
trim trellis
smoky cradle
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How about now

balmy wolf
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You're an MVP teo

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You embed anywhere

toxic yacht
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lmao

trim trellis
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just embed ffs

toxic yacht
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ayyy, it's working
Daddy Reinforce on Korean Reinhardts

trim trellis
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there ya go

dusty surge
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Neat

toxic yacht
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pogchampkappababyrage

smoky cradle
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Rhino is down

real falcon
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Keppa

smoky cradle
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so clips will survive for now

real falcon
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They'll be gone soonโ„ข

toxic yacht
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aye, so we now have 2 bots that take down twitch emotes

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lul

trim trellis
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Keep this to esports please

clever wagon
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What tournaments are running now besides Apex?

toxic yacht
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Winter Premiere and the Monthly Melle tomorrow

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Or today, I don't even remember

thin elk
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Monthly Melee hype

balmy wolf
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Today sojum

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It's midnight

forest raven
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What time is the Melee @balmy wolf

clever wagon
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Holy shit Misfits got rolled by LW Blue?

balmy wolf
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Yep

clever wagon
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What the fuck

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So that makes ALL 4 finished matches having Ilios for KOTH

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What is with this bullshit pick lol

balmy wolf
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What's the quality of the COWLeague?

clever wagon
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I'd say here is better

balmy wolf
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I like here better

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its more condensed

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Only a handful of people

clever wagon
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I just don't understand their text channel

forest raven
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What time's the Melee?

balmy wolf
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And it blows up during big tournies

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I meant the tourney not the chat

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20 hours @forest raven

forest raven
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So like 8am tomorrow

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rip

balmy wolf
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Oh right @balmy wolf

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Thats the Overwatch League

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What do you mean by quality

clever wagon
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Oh lol

balmy wolf
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Well they're solo quing right? So they're not team so is it usually messy or decent play?

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What

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Where did you get this

clever wagon
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I'm lost

balmy wolf
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Read this @balmy wolf

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Fuck I thought Melee was today

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Well

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In 20 hours lul

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That isnt the Overwatch League...

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I never said the overwatch league I said COWLeague

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Well we assumed you were talking about the Discord, but then you said the tourney so we thought you were talking about the Overwatch League

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Anyway

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I have no idea what its like

toxic yacht
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Lol

clever wagon
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When's the next apex match? Tuesday?

toxic yacht
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Yep, Tuesday

clever wagon
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Sigh

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Too long, too long

balmy wolf
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AY

toxic yacht
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Man, all these pros are too busy playing overwatch

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and mickie is just there, playing pacman

toxic yacht
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Monthly Melee in 3 hours

balmy wolf
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hmmmm

balmy wolf
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OH SHIT

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I MISSED AN HOUR OF IT ALREADY

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FUCK

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How many did i miss

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It hasn't started yet

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oh

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It's started

gritty crow
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Hollywood first map

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had a DC

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still paused why

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Sombra!

balmy wolf
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Faze still seems at a loss...

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Okay wow

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NVM

toxic yacht
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ayyy, it's uber

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maybe I'll watch FaZe, but without TwoEasy it's fuckin bust

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Mikeya instead of TwoEasy

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๐Ÿ˜ซ

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@balmy wolf u here boi?

balmy wolf
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yeah

toxic yacht
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ah, you watching it?

balmy wolf
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no lel

toxic yacht
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ah, okay

balmy wolf
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been doing hunger games

toxic yacht
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on your own?

balmy wolf
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no

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in trusted

toxic yacht
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I mean, is it mute doing them atm?

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or who

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or can you all view it

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magically

balmy wolf
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Zen was doing it

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its over now

toxic yacht
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aye, okay, you were talking like it's happening rn

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anyway, I died of fucking thirst

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after pacifying my way through

balmy wolf
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FAZE IS BACK BOYS

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Meh

toxic yacht
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it's a mid tier NA team

balmy wolf
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Spicy boys isnt really a good team

toxic yacht
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as long as they don't go up against their rival, c9, I can't really say much

balmy wolf
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Sychness and Kazper are really good

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But they cant carry the rest

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I just want them to be back okay

toxic yacht
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:(

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Me too

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I literally changed my name to "FaZe TheSojum" before TwoEasy left, okay

balmy wolf
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fuk faze

toxic yacht
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:(

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fuk u polo

balmy wolf
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I wonder which team he'll join

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I dont know if any

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Iddqd and Talespin are both still free agents

toxic yacht
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He's still signed with FaZe atm. but I have no idea where he's going from here

balmy wolf
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Jkw and Kyb aswell

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Skip too

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And then I suppose all of Rly Cool Guys

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So many free agents

toxic yacht
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jkw
FeelsTiltedMan

balmy wolf
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All of Slav Squad

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and Reu

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well

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Reu minus Onigod

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Kryw too

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so many good players free

toxic yacht
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and winghaven

balmy wolf
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wut

toxic yacht
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winghaven is with fuggin coL now

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still on tryouts though

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jkw isn't a free agent yet iirc

balmy wolf
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Please just make a good EU team together

toxic yacht
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pls stop killing the EU scene

balmy wolf
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There are so many good EU players

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So many dead teams

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ANOX

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;-;

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Reunited

toxic yacht
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Such a massive talent pool

balmy wolf
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My favorite team

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4 of Reu are playing with Sharyk and Rubikon now

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This tourney is also NA only

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well

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scrimming with

toxic yacht
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Monthly Melee rn is NA only, yeah

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although they had EU teams at some point if I'm not mistaken

balmy wolf
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Yeah, I think I remember that

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Envy have been in some

toxic yacht
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imagine they go to one just so that they can crush everybody

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the fuck dude

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@smoky cradle pls

balmy wolf
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Aha

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November

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Was the EU Monthly Melee

smoky cradle
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Minecraft ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

toxic yacht
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

balmy wolf
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November had FaZe, Bonjour, Misfits, Tornado ROX, NiP, Mouzsports, Slav Squad and LDLC

toxic yacht
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remember when FaZe was still EU?

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I don't because they keep fucking flip flopping

balmy wolf
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There was also a China one

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They were EU when they were WEUNITED right?

toxic yacht
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Nah, they were actually EU as faze

balmy wolf
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Oh really?

toxic yacht
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during the OW open they played in the EU qualifiers and playoffs as FaZe

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remove the hyphens

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so that you can view the link that @balmy wolf posted

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@balmy wolf btw, whom was he talking about, lmao

balmy wolf
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TwoEasy lol

toxic yacht
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oh, yeah, definitely

balmy wolf
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I can see him join another team after the new meta has formed

toxic yacht
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TwoEasy fucking hates ana so much

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his fucking stream

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holy

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he's just like me when it comes to his ana hate

balmy wolf
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Who doesn't hate Ana?

toxic yacht
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Ana mains

balmy wolf
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Grandma fetishists

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He gets mad about her damage a lot

toxic yacht
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Yeah, lul

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He always rants about how Blizzard can justify a hitscan support doing 80 damage per shot

clever wagon
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Flat 80 without fall off LUL

balmy wolf
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How many facial expressions can Uber make per minute?

clever wagon
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Apex should be a bang once patch hits

balmy wolf
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It was already pretty entertaining

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Hammers wow

clever wagon
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Hammers doing pretty good

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Rather solid

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Daaamn

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Holy shit that Jake hook

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Really made sure he finished off Dahang

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That's 2 teams caught off guard by Hammers

balmy wolf
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Hammers teabagged

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I wonder if it's beginner's luck or if they're here to stay

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It's a shame all the big teams aren't around to test the new ones

forest raven
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Yeah, once APEX finishes hopefullly the majority of teams can play against one another

clever wagon
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First point hold here we go bois

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THERE IT IS

jagged crater
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liquid is getting smashed by hammer

balmy wolf
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This is brutal

clever wagon
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SHUTDOWN 1-0 !!!

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Holy fuck

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Losers' match up next

balmy wolf
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I wouldn't even want to play anymore if I got teabagged by a 16 year old in tournament

clever wagon
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Ah yeah the one in Nepal

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Mad BMs

balmy wolf
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First time I've seen that in an official match

clever wagon
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Well I mean

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First he's 16

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2nd he just helped his team dominate 2 of the oldest teams, playing in practically an unknown entity

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Not just defeat, completely dominate

jagged crater
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liquid what' sgoin on!?

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D:

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liquid seems super offd

pseudo wren
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if i sign up for an overwatch tournament how do i get in touch with my team and coach

pine star
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Couldn't watch the live stream yesterday, just watched some VODs

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Hammer Esports... holy fuck

limpid hollow
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lol

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super charged every fight

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that shit needs to be punished

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also i am pretty sure dive fucks hammer

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because they pocket super really hard

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and super just cant do shit

clever wagon
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Punished? It's both L's fault for not being able to shut them down lol

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Pretty much playing like plats against Hammers, ended up being bullied around

ripe marlin
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got my money on hammers

balmy wolf
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Well

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They threw lol

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Finally they won a teamfight

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Anyone else remember when Hammers beat LG and Liquid?

pine star
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What is Hammers doing??!!

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Omg this is a slaughterfest

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Is this the same team we saw yesterday?

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Pepperidge farm remembers

balmy wolf
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Throwing

pine star
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Are the finals on lan? Or online?

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Jesus Christ Super is aggresive af

balmy wolf
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Online

pine star
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Torb meta confirmed

balmy wolf
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๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

pine star
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Yeah just saw that

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Been a while since I watched my boys NIP play

balmy wolf
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Its been a while since they've been in anything

pine star
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I just hope we don't have to wait for Apex to end

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2 months FeelsBadMan

balmy wolf
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What do you mean

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For them to play in anything?

pine star
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For this EU tournament

balmy wolf
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Which EU tournament

pine star
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Apex lasts 2 months doesn't it?

balmy wolf
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Yeah

pine star
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Isn't Blizzard planning an EU tournament?

balmy wolf
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Wut

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where'd you get that from

pine star
balmy wolf
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That doesn't say anything about tournament planning

pine star
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It's most likely a tournament, what else could it be?

balmy wolf
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It probably is a tournament

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Just saying that theres nothing there about tournament planning

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

pine star
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Here's hoping lol

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They're not very good at defense

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But their offense holy fuck

balmy wolf
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lul

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Another teabag !!

ripe marlin
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lol

balmy wolf
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omg

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That was so nutty

forest raven
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Hammers aggression was actually being punished

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Then LG thought they were playing TDM

pine star
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For a change lol

forest raven
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๐Ÿค”

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LG would have finished the map if they kept on the payload

pine star
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I know

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That was sloppy

forest raven
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The aggression that won them games yesterday was flat out not working

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And then LG fumbles it completely

pine star
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Hammer can still won tho

forest raven
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Yep

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I feel like every person that watches Overwatch on Twitch is a Moon sub jfc

pine star
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IKR

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THEY'RE FUCKING EVERYWHERE

forest raven
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Most obnoxious shit

pine star
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LMAO that's evil

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Poor Eissfeldt

forest raven
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AYY

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LG WON

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WHOO

pine star
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Say whaaaaat

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That was a close one tho

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Mostly due to LG slopiness

forest raven
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I feel like Rob420 is the most integral part of Hammers

pine star
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People in chat saying Rob420 is Ryujehong's smurf lmao

forest raven
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kek

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Ryu sleeps Soldiers cross map

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Rob sleeps Reins in front of him

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๐Ÿ‘€

pine star
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Didn't you see when he slept that Tracer mid blink?

forest raven
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When was that?

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I only started watching on Gibraltar

pine star
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On Gibraltar

forest raven
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Must have missed it

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Fuckin holy shit

pine star
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Fucking boss I tell ya

forest raven
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Hammers has quite the spicy comp

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Taking a page out of nV's book

pine star
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NV doesn't use this comp on defense tho, do they?

forest raven
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nV uses Chips on Ana and HULK on Winston on first point defence for some maps

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Their Gibraltar defence is insane with that comp

pine star
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You sure it's on defense?

forest raven
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Yep

pine star
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Ah no

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Wait

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Yeah you're right

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With Harry as off-healer

forest raven
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No team has ever gotten past first point against nV on Gibraltar

clever wagon
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LG finally pulled themselves together against Hammers?

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Can't watch because of this fucking stupid internet

forest raven
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rip

pine star
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Kinda

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It's a close match so far

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Both are doing really well

forest raven
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Jake and Train keep killing everyone lel

pine star
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Luminosity is winning 2-1 tho

clever wagon
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Omg holy shit my ISP is so full of fucking shit that members list won't load properly

pine star
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NANO BABY DVA LMAO

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Super goes absolutely berserker it's scary

forest raven
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It's because Rob, Voll and Jake are OP

pine star
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True

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They all work around him

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I've noticed how coordinated they are to send Super on ohis rampages

forest raven
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Yeah

pine star
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Bubbles, speed boost, pocket healing, all the kit

forest raven
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Mineral is fuckin popping off

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It seems that the constant dps from the turret is throwing Hammers for a loop

pine star
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The torb meta is real

forest raven
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Mineral's amazing

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I don't think he's missed a shotgun flick

pine star
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I kinda wanna see some team run a zone control comp against Hammers aggresivity

forest raven
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Pretty dominant from LG here

pine star
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Winston PotG confirmed

forest raven
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Mineral choke feelsbad

balmy wolf
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Still a close fight

forest raven
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RIP

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LG chokes again

balmy wolf
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??

forest raven
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LG's so good at choking

pine star
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Rampage!

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WHAT

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LMAO

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HOW THE HELL DIDN'T THEY TRIGGER OT?

forest raven
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Because OT's fuckin weird

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It's like as soon as Hammers finds their momentum they're near impossible to beat

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Their aggression really pays off when they snowball from a first won fight

pine star
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Were did these guys came from anyway?

forest raven
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They were Bird Noises before being picked up by Hammers

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A t2/t3 team

pine star
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They've been showing off in style tho

forest raven
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They were gonna enter the WP but there was some internal stuff which didn't let them

pine star
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Can't wait for the big boys to come back from Korea

forest raven
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ikr

pine star
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2 months tho FeelsBadMan

balmy wolf
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I can't wait for EU to be revived too...

forest raven
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Well, if Fnatic's performance against Panthera was any indication, they're not that big ๐Ÿ‘€

pine star
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tbf Panthera is damn good

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But yeah

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Fnatic is not holding up

clever wagon
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"It's like as soon as Hammers finds their momentum they're near impossible to beat" tru

pine star
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I feel like Buds is always trying to carry the shit out of Fnatic, but he can only do so much

forest raven
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Yeah

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Buds is great, but he was the support to idd

wicked elbow
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why isn't iddqd playing with fnatic

pine star
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I know

forest raven
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Buds is now the only player on Fnatic that's closest to a star player

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And he can't do it all by himself

pine star
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But Buds is really good, he's been making a name for himself

forest raven
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Buds was doing so much against Panthera

pine star
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He faced against SoOn on a Tracer 1v1 and won multiple times ffs lol

forest raven
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Yeah lol

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@wicked elbow idd was removed from the active roster

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He didn't leave it

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And idd's a toxic prick, so

pine star
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^is he? always looked like a nice block to me

forest raven
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I can't watch his stream because he always seems to be berating his teammates when he plays comp

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There are very few reasons to remove a player like iddqd from your team's roster

pine star
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I've never really watched to much of his stream tho

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Yeah, if they removed him there most be a damned good reason, because the guy's a beast

wicked elbow
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who u guys think will win ogn s2

forest raven
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At this point? Who knows

wicked elbow
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lunatic hai has Zunba now right

pine star
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EnVy obviously

forest raven
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Haven't even seen all the teams play yet

pine star
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Okey not obviously

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MVP Infinity had EnVy against the ropes

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But EnVy tends to have a slow start

forest raven
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Yep

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They lost their first game in season 1

balmy wolf
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They dropped a game against coL at MLG and no one would shut up about it for like 3 weeks lol

pine star
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I know

forest raven
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coL lost to nV at MLG by one team fight

pine star
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It was the first game of the tournament for them

forest raven
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Taimou was sick

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He got into the US literally like an hour before the game

pine star
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Taimou is consistently sick lol

forest raven
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kek

pine star
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Having a ear infection

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And after like 18 of flights mind you

balmy wolf
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ouch

pine star
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And literally 0 scrims in like a lot of time

forest raven
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Eiss on Tracer ๐Ÿ˜

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HOW

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WHAT

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HOW DID

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SHATTER IS SO BROKEN

pine star
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It hurts me seeing Eissfeldt on D.Va tbh

balmy wolf
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Blizz has to remove Rein from the game already

forest raven
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HE WAS IN THE GODDAMN AIR

pine star
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Just saw the shatter

forest raven
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AND HE WAS BEHIND SUPER

pine star
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Delayed stream

forest raven
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WTF

wicked elbow
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what teams r playing rn??

forest raven
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Luminosity and Hammers

balmy wolf
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LG and Hammers

pine star
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LG vs Hammers

balmy wolf
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fuck

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You're too fast >_>

forest raven
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LG didn't get 3rd because shatter is the most broken shit in this game

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2nd

pine star
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lmao

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Air shatter according to Twitch chart

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chat*

forest raven
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Shatter will hit you when you're behind Rein, above him, blinking, 20 metres away from him

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It will hit you if you walk in front of him after he shatters

pine star
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Shatter will hit Pharahs 20 meters above

forest raven
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I don't blame LG for not getting 2nd

pine star
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HOW DID

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HOW...

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HOW DID MEI

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dafuq

forest raven
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OH LOOK JAKE AND TRAIN KILL EVERYONE AGAIN

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ROB IS SO GOOD

balmy wolf
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Well, they did lose a couple fights after that huge start but the ending was stupid

pine star
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They are so aggro

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Damn son

forest raven
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LG just isn't a team with enough coordination to fight Hammers' aggro

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A team with as much coordination as say, Lunatic Hai or nV would fucking crush Hammers

pine star
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Probably true

balmy wolf
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Those teams would crush almost any team tbf

forest raven
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Yeah true

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Though new patch

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nV will be weaker

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Everytime 2/2/2 came out in their match against MVP they struggled

pine star
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I won't underestimate these kids tho

forest raven
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I hope Hammers doesn't pull a Renegades

pine star
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Sloppy ass blizzard

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@forest raven ikr, what the hell happened to RNG?

forest raven
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Shit management

balmy wolf
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Internal drama too apparently

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With Snow

pine star
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Oh yeah

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Snow is kind of a dick tho, for what I've read

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Has a bigger ego than Hanzo's arrow's hitbox

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Bigger than earth shatter's hitbox?

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Slasher's creepy ass grin gives me the creeps

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What post?

forest raven
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Slasher in general's creepy

balmy wolf
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ikr

pine star
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^true lmao

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Hey guys

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A little bit of an off-topic question

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I need a little help

forest raven
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What with

pine star
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I'm currently playing on PS4 (gross, I know)

forest raven
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dw about it

pine star
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But I'm looking to build my first gaming PC after like 8 years of not having one lol

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My budget is pretty limited tho

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And I saw a store in my town selling this combo

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  • Iceberg Crystal G5 - L with 3 cooling fans 120mm
  • Power source 500W Reales Iceberg - Certificaciรณn 80 PLUS.
  • Board Chipset H110M DDR4 4K with PCi-Express 3.0, USB 3.0, 32GB RAM support
  • Intel Core i3 6100 (3.7 GHz).
  • 8GB 2133Mhz Shielded DDR4.
  • HDD 1TB
  • NVIDIA GTX 1050 2GB GDDR5.
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How is it?

forest raven
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I am not the man to ask about specs, unfortunately

pine star
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Know of someone?

forest raven
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There are subreddits devoted to helping you build a pc

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/r/buildapc I believe

pine star
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I'll check that out

balmy wolf
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Good luck with that dude

pine star
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Thanks mate

forest raven
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I've never seen Spicy Boys or Rise play before, so this'll be fun

pine star
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Rise are not that good imo

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Spicy boys are the other came-out-of-nowhere team that were kind of a surprise

forest raven
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Spicy Boys were in the qualifiers for the WP, I think

pine star
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I believe only Hammers have beaten Spicy Boys

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Really? I never saw them

forest raven
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That's because I don't think they got to any streamed game

balmy wolf
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Spicy Boys vs Hammers was streamed

pine star
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What the hell is happening to the "top tier" NA teams in these tournaments?

forest raven
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At the WP, not here

pine star
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FaZe, Liquid, LG

forest raven
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Rigidity, maybe

pine star
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They're all doing so bad

forest raven
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FaZe has always been bad online

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Or at least totally inconsistent

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Russian ping OP

pine star
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Are they currently in Russia?

forest raven
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Shadowburn's Russian

pine star
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Yeah I know

forest raven
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And he's their playmaker

pine star
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But I assumed he lived in USA

forest raven
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Nope

balmy wolf
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Shadowburn has really been carrying Faze this tourney

pine star
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In this tourney?

forest raven
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FaZe has three players in EU and three players in NA

pine star
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He has always carried FaZe lmao

forest raven
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So half the team has shit ping

balmy wolf
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He didn't really show up at WP though

pine star
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SDB is gonna be happy with the new patch

forest raven
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I'd say teams like Liquid and LG have the clout of being a part of well known orgs

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Which inflates their perceived level of skill

pine star
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^tru

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NRG for example

forest raven
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Teams like Kungarna, Hammers, Immortals etc. all have been performing better than them the past couple weeks

pine star
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Being NRG AND having Seagull puts a lot of pressure on them

forest raven
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NRG will always have a large following no matter what happens because of Seagull

pine star
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Yeah

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NRG hardcore fans are so toxic tho

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Blamming it all on everyone on the team but Seagull

forest raven
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Same can be said for extreme fans of anything

pine star
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I mean, against the team itself

forest raven
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True, true

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There are those that blame it on everyone but Seagull, or blame it all on Seagull

pine star
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I believe they just need leadership

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Seagull's not really a leader

forest raven
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IIRC, Dummy said that the team had like two shotcallers, and one of them was numlocked, their Rein player

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Which isn't good

pine star
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Yeah

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It was on Oversight with Monte and Thorin, wasn't it?

forest raven
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Ye

pine star
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Thorin is such a bully lol

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But seriously tho, how tf is Rein a shotcaller

forest raven
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

balmy wolf
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They ran them over wow

pine star
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It was expected tbh

balmy wolf
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These new teams have really been showing up lately like wow

pine star
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That's why I can't wait for C9, NV and Fnatic to come back from Korea

balmy wolf
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There haven't been any big tourney announced yet after WP and APEX unfortunately :c

pine star
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MLG?

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Oh I meant

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nvm lol

balmy wolf
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Is there any chance Gosu weeklies will return?

pine star
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No idea

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I wished my region had a competitive scene

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My region sucks at esports tho

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All of them

balmy wolf
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Where are you from?

forest raven
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Where you from

pine star
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Colombia

balmy wolf
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Hmmm

clever wagon
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RIP ISP

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Currently using portable modem, not really dependable for live streams

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Bye today's AMM

pine star
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^that sucks

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Gnite mate

clever wagon
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10 AM here lol

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I'm only unable to watch games

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Browsing and chatting are fine

pine star
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Oh xD

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EU?

clever wagon
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SEA

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GMT/UTC+7

balmy wolf
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So many different nationalities here >_>

pine star
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ikr xD

thin elk
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DISCOUNT BEYBLADE

pine star
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2K17 Bayblade

clever wagon
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Right, I watched Ster's old S2 stream in which he was playing on Pathetic against Poke

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*sees McCree legs glitching
"He's a flamingo!!"

pine star
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lmao

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Widow legs are worse

thin elk
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I swear

clever wagon
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Poke: being salty at teammates (though his team's Mercy did sux) and his own chat

thin elk
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She can contort her knees up to her face just by crouching

clever wagon
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Also, those were the days of speed nanoboost

thin elk
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Her stupid crouch

clever wagon
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Beyblade meta will always be missed

thin elk
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Bring back 110% speedboost

pine star
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I would've prefered they took the damage resistance

clever wagon
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If brought back, beyblade would probably be a decent counter to World of Tanks

pine star
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Instead of the speed

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^

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It'd be like a mini-game

clever wagon
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I mean regardless

pine star
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Instead of "shield wars" it'd be "de-mech the D.Va"

clever wagon
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I can't think of any way of balancing matrix

pine star
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Matrix is okay I think

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Makes you more cautious on how to use your abilities

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She just needed to not be unkillable

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And the new patch does just that

clever wagon
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Bring Zarya's energy back

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Make her the true soloq hero again

pine star
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Honestly they need to nerf tanks damage

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All of them except Winston

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For like 10/15%

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^true

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The anti-heal needs to be nerfed

clever wagon
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Support with 80 dmg flat no fall off LUL

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I mean

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Realistically her ammo is basically a drug injection, so having a fall off wouldn't make sense

pine star
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I think Blizzard is just scared of making her unusable

balmy wolf
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Yeah but she's OP now

pine star
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They're being really cautious about the nerfs and buffs, so they don't pull another D.Va out

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Yeah she is

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But she'll get to the sweet spot eventually

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I totally agree

balmy wolf
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It's so stupid, the team with the best Ana usually wins when I play comp

pine star
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After the patch, Blizzard will probably see if she needs to get nerfed even more

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Which she will

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I trust Blizzard

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I miss Zen

balmy wolf
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Are the details about the patch available yet or is it just guessing right now?

pine star
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It's been on the PTR for a while now

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The heal buff and effect duration of the granade is being reduced

balmy wolf
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Do you think the nerf is enough?

pine star
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Fuck no lmao

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The healing is ok now I guess

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But the damage and anti-heal need to be nerfed

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I believe the nerfs are to directly address the tank meta

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Blizzard are good are stabilizing their games

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OW is still young

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It'll get there

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Maybe not on the next patch, but yeah

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I reckon by the time the league kicks off, the game will be at a much better place

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lmao chat going crazy over DSPStanky

balmy wolf
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I wonder if they'll put out the new hero or start the league first

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I expect a hero >_>

pine star
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I reckon the new hero will come out before the league

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They said new hero comes at early 2k17

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^yeah, probably april

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The league starts probably on Q3

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Or so

balmy wolf
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Probably

pine star
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They said they have a couple heroes on art stage

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And have one or two on a much advanced stage

balmy wolf
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They'll want to make it a success since it seems they're putting a lot of money and effort into it

pine star
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Slasher has a lot of knowledge of the game

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But for some reason I can't stand him talking lol

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I may be remembering wrong then

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He was on NRG, right?

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Numlocked stays?

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Welp

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They better get some damned good players

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ikr

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He's not very good

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I'm not really sure

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He's... inconsistent to say the least

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Last time I saw them, they were getting stomped on MLG

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FeelsBadMan

pine star
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I was honestly expecting LG to lose this one

balmy wolf
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Same

balmy wolf
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3-0, damn

clever wagon
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ISP fixed!

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It delivered and proved itself to be better than the last one I was subscribed to

balmy wolf
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Another 3-0

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That's impressive

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Especially since LG made it to top 4 of WP

clever wagon
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Ah geez

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I'm too lazy to watch vods, I prefer live -_-

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What are the results of today's matches?

forest raven
toxic yacht
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@forest raven, where are you when needed

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Ah, there you are

forest raven
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Fuck you say ๐Ÿ‘€

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@clever wagon

clever wagon
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Aha thanks

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Hammers 0 losses???

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Holy shit

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79% win rate all time, 6 win streak...

toxic yacht
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seagull queued vs 4 of imt two days ago

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fun

clever wagon
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Seagull huh

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Wonder how it would be if he was in a better team

toxic yacht
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They're currently rebuilding NRG around him and Dummy

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I have hope

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They were getting really good before Gods and Pookz left

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They actually played Lunatic Hai uncomfortably closely

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Maybe they could even have reached their "Nr. 3 in NA status again"

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But eh, let's see how this rebuilding will go

clever wagon
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Hope so

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Is there any place with Apex matches' schedule mapped out to a calendar?

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Aw fuck Korean powerhouses' matches still so far away

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These intercontinental championships are the best

toxic yacht
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according to the gosugamers shit the exact dates and times aren't known yet

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although it's a round robin, so all teams in each group must go vs eachother

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next matchups, based off the order and the times the matches happen, we can probably guess when exactly they'll be

forest raven
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@toxic yacht @clever wagon

toxic yacht
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I already saw it bby

quartz wren
clever wagon
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Oo nice

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Ty @forest raven

forest raven
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np fam

toxic yacht
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ayy, I'm so hyped

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misfits will play on the next patch

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hopefully they'll rek everyone

forest raven
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The 3rd tho

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LH and LW Blue

toxic yacht
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yeah, lul

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this is ridiculous

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this fuckwit who approved these groups

forest raven
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rip

clever wagon
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Isn't the current Misfits not the same as DH Winter though?

toxic yacht
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nah, it's not

forest raven
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Nope, big changes

toxic yacht
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the only ones from back then are zebbo and nevix

clever wagon
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Their feat in DH Winter was awesome

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I know Zebbosai's one of the top DPS up there but idk about the new roster as a whole

toxic yacht
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imo tviq is the best overall dps player in the world

clever wagon
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Right, Tviq is in Misfits now

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I forgot

forest raven
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Stacked to the point that Nevix has to be support

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Still lose 3-1 to LW Blue thenkeng

toxic yacht
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they forced triple dps too much

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those throwing fucks

forest raven
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Yeah from what I heard

toxic yacht
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especially zebbo on his widow

clever wagon
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Lululul

forest raven
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Zebbo just got shut down the whole time didn't he?

toxic yacht
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yeah, lul

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it was embarrasing

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like those soloq widows

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lw blue played around it masterfully

clever wagon
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They should've just be patient and play safe

toxic yacht
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much better than fnatic

forest raven
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I just hope Fnatic wins a match, let alone a series

clever wagon
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Balance patches is pretty much right around the corner

forest raven
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Like 2 days

toxic yacht
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yeah, I hope that this triple dps is mostly preperation for the next patch

clever wagon
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No I mean when Misfits was playing

toxic yacht
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yeah, imo they should have stuck to the meta for now

clever wagon
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Isn't Tviq also a reliable flex?

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Like DPS/off-tank

toxic yacht
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nevix is more flexy than tviq, but yes, tviq plays hog

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I'm also pretty sure that he could pick of zarya or dva if necessary

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they guy is a fucking monster

forest raven
#

I'm confident C9 used their match against CONBOX as prep for new patch

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They were playing like it was the new patch 90% of the time, besides a few 1.0 hooks

clever wagon
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And even then it was Gods playing Hog, he should be able to switch around just fine

forest raven
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I still say Surefour is Tviq's peer @toxic yacht ๐Ÿ‘€

clever wagon
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If Hook 2.0 affects plays that much, that is

forest raven
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With the change to hook's mechanics, pro players will take, relatively speaking, a longer time to get used to them because they were the ones that abused 1.0's mechanics to the greatest effect

clever wagon
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Ye

viral aspen
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i just lost 5-0 with 3 perfects to Harryhook's smurf account in 1 vs 1 duel

#

lel

forest raven
#

About as well as one would expect to perform lmao

pine star
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@viral aspen lmao

clever wagon
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At least you have the chance to actually meet them

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:/

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But wait wouldn't he be playing in Korea servers right now with the rest of NV?

toxic yacht
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( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

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there's always hope bby

balmy wolf
#

Will OGN APEX run the new patch if it's out on Tuesday?

toxic yacht
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yup

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they have too

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no lan client

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the only lan client was at the world cup, all other "LANs" aren't actually real LANs

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since they are still on Blizz servers

balmy wolf
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Interesting would be very interesting if the new patch comes out tomorrow before tuesday.

toxic yacht
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the new patch fucked Rogue over during Season 1

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wouldn't shock me if it fucks over a team again

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it also massively helped Envy become the clear cut number one in the world

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instead of nr. 2-3

pine star
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Is the patch enough to get rid of triple tank tho?

forest raven
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No

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Ana can still sustain three tanks and the line up will become Rein/Zarya/Hog

toxic yacht
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No, triple tank will still be viable

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but hopefully more dps heavy lineups will make a comeback in a form that isn't superdive

forest raven
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Yep

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From the few things I've heard from teams scrimming on the PTR, it's that a lot more different comps are viable

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Triple tank, 2/2/2, triple dps

toxic yacht
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I hope for a future where a maximum of 3 is viable for every class

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and maybe 4 stacks should work, but have super hard counters

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A man can dream

forest raven
#

In a perfect world every hero's perfectly balanced

toxic yacht
#

in a perfect world every comp would run genji

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at least in my perfect world, lul

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oh shit, draw is ded

pine star
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I just want defense heroes to be more viable

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They're barely used in the pro scene

toxic yacht
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Hanzo is in a great spot atm imo

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fairly situational, but high impact when used right

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Bastion too

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low skill bullshit, but super good for situational strats

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mei is great

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but the rest... eh

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torb is also seeing more use though

dusty surge
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His gun is powerful and armor packs are like mini heals.

#

Junkrat COULD be good, much in the same way Pharah can be. Area denial and splash is powerful. I think the lack of mobility and survivability once you get around him is what keeps him down.

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Also probably doesn't help that he's like free charge for any Zaryas that may be present.

clever wagon
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I mean he gets easily countered by DVa too.

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Even eating 1 stray grenade is a huge help

dusty surge
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True, but if DVa is spending her time pointing her matrix at spamrat, that means the rest of your team is free to target other, more important targets.

iron cedar
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I want to see more pro sombra plays.

clever wagon
#

Well shit

#

Missed the entire AMM

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Well shit

#

From the recap Hammers seem to really consistently work around Super's Reinhardt doesn't it

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And successful almost every time

clever wagon
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Ha!

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I'm guessing the female Zarya player is that godlike 17 y-o girl which went viral months ago?

forest raven
#

Yeah

clever wagon
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Hah

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Yeah I remember something like her getting real threats happening

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But man that reddit thread

dark stratus
#

@mortal kraken no advertising

balmy wolf
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Winter Premier starts at 5am my time :/

jagged crater
#

what happened with clg?

#

they got announced at a lan and then never heard of them again

balmy wolf
#

they suck

jagged crater
#

how bad

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were they in the AMM?

balmy wolf
#

nope

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thats only for mid-top tier teams

jagged crater
#

i thought it was open for any team

balmy wolf
#

Nope

jagged crater
#

guess that was just the weekly

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did they play in any notable online tournaments as of late?

balmy wolf
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Nope

clever wagon
#

compLexity huh

clever wagon
#

2 Korean powerhouses todayyy

thin elk
#

God that shorthand name is so awkward

#

coL

forest raven
#

kek

balmy wolf
#

Counter Logic Gaming took CLG

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

pine star
#

Has CLG played in anything?

balmy wolf
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a few things

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very small things

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did bad

#

arent a good team

pine star
#

Welp

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The org hyped them up hard on MLG

balmy wolf
#

CLG is a popular org

pine star
#

Any VODs?

balmy wolf
#

they just picked a shit roster

proven musk
#

Yeah CLG is huge, their main focus is League of Legends though

jagged crater
#

CLG's CS roster is going downhill too

#

it's a damn shame

toxic yacht
#

eh, I already saw the post about nanohana and pine yesterday

#

keep in mind that they are, like, 16 or something

#

a lot of people say fucking dumbass things at that age, and iirc it wasn't nanohana himself who made the death threats, although he was on that team, which was already known

#

they're still fucking dumbasses, but a lot of it is probably just dumbass kids being edgy, especially if you consider when some of those things were said. When it comes to them potentially being members of that site... ugh, that sucks dick

clever wagon
#

Thank goodness I only have ever cheated in offline CS

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Because back then I didn't even know how to play online by manual connection to server list

#

lol

toxic yacht
#

BTW, remember Babybay from Kungarna? He was known as "Flex" in csgo and got ESEA banned in the middle of a tournament

#

and yeah, a ton of people cheated in the past

#

I feel like I'm the exception for never cheating in an fps

clever wagon
#

Well, ever since I knew how to play online I never even tried

#

Being accused of aimbotting even though I don't use one is much more satisfying

#

Delicious salt

toxic yacht
#

I only got accused of hacking after some crazy triple I did in csgo. Keep in mind that I was silver elite, lemma go look it up. I also got accused of cheating in ow a few times (as fucking hanzo once) and the other time as 76 after I harryhooked a pharah

#

I love hack accusations

#

I just watched the replay

#

jesus, that csgo play was utter shit

#

silver awareness is terrible

#

fuck

clever wagon
#

lol

#

Apex 2 in 1h40m

toxic yacht
#

oh shit, I won't have time

#

luckily I don't really care about bk stars and meta

#

I'll probably miss lh vs lw af blue though

clever wagon
#

Ah right, they're first

#

I also prefer LH

#

Spicy Boys broke right after AMM?

toxic yacht
#

apparently they're breaking up, yeah

#

they looked promising

clever wagon
#

Hmm, didn't see the match

#

I only watched the final VOD :/

#

Hammers vs LG final is basically The Bullying of Eissfeldt

toxic yacht
#

Oh great, they aren't disbanding