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All the top teams are transferring to NA for OWL
And theres been no tournies for those who havent Transferred
after the ow open there was pretty much nothing for EU
while NA gets gosugamers monthlies
all dead
ayyy, I'm hyped
MM?
Monthly Melee



Man, Ryb's earthshatters sucked during the whole game
He's like Reinforce
Keeps slamming into those shields
He's learning from juv3nile
renegades is in full wtf mode
Is there a stream going on right now?
is it karma that rng went on a losing streak after they kicked manofsnow?
Seriously, am I missing it right now?
I'm missing the announcement posts D:
and was commenting on ryb's questionable shatters
twas the vod, I was at school when they played
Ahhh
I love how beemoo keeps linking to the brazillian tourney, lul
brazilians are players too!
sorry, none of us speak portuguese
btw, snow is brazillian
so I know that you exist, lul
that's a DAMN SHAME
btw, I'm pretty sure that ManOfSnow decided to leave on his own
something with only being on tryoutrs etc
and don't quote me on this, but apparently he wants to go full time streamer after this
or I at least read some dude say that
He left? wow
ALSO ZP HYPE TONIGHT BABYYYY
I LOVE ZP
Tonight?
Oh wait
Timezones
duh
yeah, lul, I was confused af
@balmy wolf http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spi2rb
ayy, perfect
for you
that sounds rough
outch
Thanks
The tourney starts at 2am but I still have one week of Winter break left :3
What in the world
When did your break start
Thats silly
You have to be off for Christmas and New years
Yeah, I have a 5 week break because I didn't have any resits
What the fuck
Daddy Reinforce on Korean Reinhardts
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/170185225526181890/272142566797869057/unknown.png

How about now
lmao
just embed ffs
there ya go
Neat
pogchampkappababyrage
Rhino is down
Keppa
so clips will survive for now
They'll be gone soonโข
Keep this to esports please
What tournaments are running now besides Apex?
Monthly Melee hype
What time is the Melee @balmy wolf
Holy shit Misfits got rolled by LW Blue?
Yep
What the fuck
So that makes ALL 4 finished matches having Ilios for KOTH
What is with this bullshit pick lol
What's the quality of the COWLeague?
I'd say here is better
I just don't understand their text channel
What time's the Melee?
And it blows up during big tournies
I meant the tourney not the chat
20 hours @forest raven
Oh lol
Well they're solo quing right? So they're not team so is it usually messy or decent play?
What
Where did you get this
I'm lost
Read this @balmy wolf
Fuck I thought Melee was today
Well
In 20 hours lul
http://i.imgur.com/vkG9uHi.jpg says soloq
That isnt the Overwatch League...
I never said the overwatch league I said COWLeague
Well we assumed you were talking about the Discord, but then you said the tourney so we thought you were talking about the Overwatch League
Anyway
I have no idea what its like
Lol
When's the next apex match? Tuesday?
Yep, Tuesday
AY
Man, all these pros are too busy playing overwatch
and mickie is just there, playing pacman
Monthly Melee in 3 hours
hmmmm
ZP casting http://i.imgur.com/zlZzRrp.gif
OH SHIT
I MISSED AN HOUR OF IT ALREADY
FUCK
How many did i miss
It hasn't started yet
oh

It's started
ayyy, it's uber
maybe I'll watch FaZe, but without TwoEasy it's fuckin bust
Mikeya instead of TwoEasy
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@balmy wolf u here boi?
yeah
ah, you watching it?
no lel
ah, okay
been doing hunger games
on your own?
aye, okay, you were talking like it's happening rn
anyway, I died of fucking thirst
after pacifying my way through
it's a mid tier NA team
Spicy boys isnt really a good team
as long as they don't go up against their rival, c9, I can't really say much
Sychness and Kazper are really good
But they cant carry the rest
I just want them to be back okay
:(
Me too
I literally changed my name to "FaZe TheSojum" before TwoEasy left, okay
fuk faze
I wonder which team he'll join
I dont know if any
Iddqd and Talespin are both still free agents
He's still signed with FaZe atm. but I have no idea where he's going from here
Jkw and Kyb aswell
Skip too
And then I suppose all of Rly Cool Guys
So many free agents
jkw
All of Slav Squad
and Reu
well
Reu minus Onigod
Kryw too
so many good players free
and winghaven
wut
winghaven is with fuggin coL now

still on tryouts though
jkw isn't a free agent yet iirc
Please just make a good EU team together
pls stop killing the EU scene
Such a massive talent pool
My favorite team
4 of Reu are playing with Sharyk and Rubikon now
This tourney is also NA only
well
scrimming with
Monthly Melee rn is NA only, yeah
although they had EU teams at some point if I'm not mistaken
imagine they go to one just so that they can crush everybody

the fuck dude
@smoky cradle pls
Minecraft ๐ฎ
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November had FaZe, Bonjour, Misfits, Tornado ROX, NiP, Mouzsports, Slav Squad and LDLC
Nah, they were actually EU as faze
Oh really?
during the OW open they played in the EU qualifiers and playoffs as FaZe
remove the hyphens
so that you can view the link that @balmy wolf posted
@balmy wolf btw, whom was he talking about, lmao
TwoEasy lol
oh, yeah, definitely
I can see him join another team after the new meta has formed
TwoEasy fucking hates ana so much
his fucking stream
holy
he's just like me when it comes to his ana hate
Who doesn't hate Ana?
Ana mains
Yeah, lul
He always rants about how Blizzard can justify a hitscan support doing 80 damage per shot
Flat 80 without fall off LUL
How many facial expressions can Uber make per minute?
Apex should be a bang once patch hits
Hammers doing pretty good
Rather solid
Daaamn
Holy shit that Jake hook
Really made sure he finished off Dahang
That's 2 teams caught off guard by Hammers
Hammers teabagged
I wonder if it's beginner's luck or if they're here to stay
It's a shame all the big teams aren't around to test the new ones
Yeah, once APEX finishes hopefullly the majority of teams can play against one another
liquid is getting smashed by hammer
This is brutal
I wouldn't even want to play anymore if I got teabagged by a 16 year old in tournament
First time I've seen that in an official match
Well I mean
First he's 16
2nd he just helped his team dominate 2 of the oldest teams, playing in practically an unknown entity
Not just defeat, completely dominate
if i sign up for an overwatch tournament how do i get in touch with my team and coach
Couldn't watch the live stream yesterday, just watched some VODs
Hammer Esports... holy fuck
lol
super charged every fight
that shit needs to be punished
also i am pretty sure dive fucks hammer
because they pocket super really hard
and super just cant do shit
Punished? It's both L's fault for not being able to shut them down lol
Pretty much playing like plats against Hammers, ended up being bullied around
got my money on hammers
Well
They threw lol
Finally they won a teamfight
Anyone else remember when Hammers beat LG and Liquid?

What is Hammers doing??!!
Omg this is a slaughterfest
Is this the same team we saw yesterday?
Pepperidge farm remembers
Throwing
Online
Torb meta confirmed
Its been a while since they've been in anything
For this EU tournament
Which EU tournament
Apex lasts 2 months doesn't it?
Yeah
Isn't Blizzard planning an EU tournament?
It's most likely a tournament, what else could it be?
It probably is a tournament
Just saying that theres nothing there about tournament planning
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LIVE: LUMINOSITY VS HAMMERS - ALIENWARE MONTHLY MELEE - Casted by @TempoZP, @Hexagrams, @UberShouts, - Clipped by polo__bear
lul
Another teabag !!
lol
Hammers aggression was actually being punished
Then LG thought they were playing TDM
For a change lol
The aggression that won them games yesterday was flat out not working
And then LG fumbles it completely
Hammer can still won tho
Most obnoxious shit
I feel like Rob420 is the most integral part of Hammers
People in chat saying Rob420 is Ryujehong's smurf lmao
Didn't you see when he slept that Tracer mid blink?
On Gibraltar
LIVE: LUMINOSITY VS HAMMERS - ALIENWARE MONTHLY MELEE - Casted by @TempoZP, @Hexagrams, @UberShouts, @JKaplan, @Slasher - Clipped by Uncleswagg
Fucking boss I tell ya
NV doesn't use this comp on defense tho, do they?
nV uses Chips on Ana and HULK on Winston on first point defence for some maps
Their Gibraltar defence is insane with that comp
You sure it's on defense?
Yep
No team has ever gotten past first point against nV on Gibraltar
LG finally pulled themselves together against Hammers?
Can't watch because of this fucking stupid internet
rip
Jake and Train keep killing everyone lel
Luminosity is winning 2-1 tho
Omg holy shit my ISP is so full of fucking shit that members list won't load properly
It's because Rob, Voll and Jake are OP
True
They all work around him
I've noticed how coordinated they are to send Super on ohis rampages
Yeah
Bubbles, speed boost, pocket healing, all the kit
Mineral is fuckin popping off
It seems that the constant dps from the turret is throwing Hammers for a loop
The torb meta is real
I kinda wanna see some team run a zone control comp against Hammers aggresivity
Pretty dominant from LG here
Winston PotG confirmed
Mineral choke feelsbad
Still a close fight
??
LG's so good at choking
Because OT's fuckin weird
It's like as soon as Hammers finds their momentum they're near impossible to beat
Their aggression really pays off when they snowball from a first won fight
Were did these guys came from anyway?
They've been showing off in style tho
They were gonna enter the WP but there was some internal stuff which didn't let them
Can't wait for the big boys to come back from Korea
ikr
2 months tho FeelsBadMan
I can't wait for EU to be revived too...
Well, if Fnatic's performance against Panthera was any indication, they're not that big ๐
"It's like as soon as Hammers finds their momentum they're near impossible to beat" tru
I feel like Buds is always trying to carry the shit out of Fnatic, but he can only do so much
why isn't iddqd playing with fnatic
I know
Buds is now the only player on Fnatic that's closest to a star player
And he can't do it all by himself
But Buds is really good, he's been making a name for himself
Buds was doing so much against Panthera
He faced against SoOn on a Tracer 1v1 and won multiple times ffs lol
Yeah lol
@wicked elbow idd was removed from the active roster
He didn't leave it
And idd's a toxic prick, so
^is he? always looked like a nice block to me
I can't watch his stream because he always seems to be berating his teammates when he plays comp
There are very few reasons to remove a player like iddqd from your team's roster
I've never really watched to much of his stream tho
Yeah, if they removed him there most be a damned good reason, because the guy's a beast
who u guys think will win ogn s2
At this point? Who knows
lunatic hai has Zunba now right
EnVy obviously
Haven't even seen all the teams play yet
Okey not obviously
MVP Infinity had EnVy against the ropes
But EnVy tends to have a slow start
They dropped a game against coL at MLG and no one would shut up about it for like 3 weeks lol
I know
coL lost to nV at MLG by one team fight
It was the first game of the tournament for them
Taimou is consistently sick lol
kek
ouch
And literally 0 scrims in like a lot of time
Blizz has to remove Rein from the game already
HE WAS IN THE GODDAMN AIR
Just saw the shatter
AND HE WAS BEHIND SUPER
Delayed stream
WTF
what teams r playing rn??
Luminosity and Hammers
LG and Hammers
LG vs Hammers
Shatter will hit you when you're behind Rein, above him, blinking, 20 metres away from him
It will hit you if you walk in front of him after he shatters
Shatter will hit Pharahs 20 meters above
I don't blame LG for not getting 2nd
Well, they did lose a couple fights after that huge start but the ending was stupid
LG just isn't a team with enough coordination to fight Hammers' aggro
A team with as much coordination as say, Lunatic Hai or nV would fucking crush Hammers
Probably true
Those teams would crush almost any team tbf
Yeah true
Though new patch
nV will be weaker
Everytime 2/2/2 came out in their match against MVP they struggled
I won't underestimate these kids tho
I hope Hammers doesn't pull a Renegades
Shit management
Oh yeah
Snow is kind of a dick tho, for what I've read
Has a bigger ego than Hanzo's arrow's hitbox
Bigger than earth shatter's hitbox?
Slasher's creepy ass grin gives me the creeps
What post?
Slasher in general's creepy
ikr
What with
I'm currently playing on PS4 (gross, I know)
dw about it
But I'm looking to build my first gaming PC after like 8 years of not having one lol
My budget is pretty limited tho
And I saw a store in my town selling this combo
- Iceberg Crystal G5 - L with 3 cooling fans 120mm
- Power source 500W Reales Iceberg - Certificaciรณn 80 PLUS.
- Board Chipset H110M DDR4 4K with PCi-Express 3.0, USB 3.0, 32GB RAM support
- Intel Core i3 6100 (3.7 GHz).
- 8GB 2133Mhz Shielded DDR4.
- HDD 1TB
- NVIDIA GTX 1050 2GB GDDR5.
How is it?
I am not the man to ask about specs, unfortunately
Know of someone?
I'll check that out
Good luck with that dude
Thanks mate
I've never seen Spicy Boys or Rise play before, so this'll be fun
Rise are not that good imo
Spicy boys are the other came-out-of-nowhere team that were kind of a surprise
Spicy Boys were in the qualifiers for the WP, I think
That's because I don't think they got to any streamed game
Spicy Boys vs Hammers was streamed
What the hell is happening to the "top tier" NA teams in these tournaments?
At the WP, not here
FaZe, Liquid, LG
Rigidity, maybe
They're all doing so bad
Are they currently in Russia?
Shadowburn's Russian
Yeah I know
And he's their playmaker
But I assumed he lived in USA
Nope
Shadowburn has really been carrying Faze this tourney
In this tourney?
FaZe has three players in EU and three players in NA
He has always carried FaZe lmao
So half the team has shit ping
He didn't really show up at WP though
SDB is gonna be happy with the new patch
I'd say teams like Liquid and LG have the clout of being a part of well known orgs
Which inflates their perceived level of skill
Teams like Kungarna, Hammers, Immortals etc. all have been performing better than them the past couple weeks
Being NRG AND having Seagull puts a lot of pressure on them
NRG will always have a large following no matter what happens because of Seagull
Yeah
NRG hardcore fans are so toxic tho
Blamming it all on everyone on the team but Seagull
Same can be said for extreme fans of anything
I mean, against the team itself
True, true
There are those that blame it on everyone but Seagull, or blame it all on Seagull
IIRC, Dummy said that the team had like two shotcallers, and one of them was numlocked, their Rein player
Which isn't good
Ye
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They ran them over wow
It was expected tbh
These new teams have really been showing up lately like wow
That's why I can't wait for C9, NV and Fnatic to come back from Korea
There haven't been any big tourney announced yet after WP and APEX unfortunately :c
Is there any chance Gosu weeklies will return?
No idea
I wished my region had a competitive scene
My region sucks at esports tho
All of them
Where are you from?
Where you from
Colombia
Hmmm
RIP ISP
Currently using portable modem, not really dependable for live streams
Bye today's AMM
So many different nationalities here >_>
ikr xD
DISCOUNT BEYBLADE
2K17 Bayblade
Right, I watched Ster's old S2 stream in which he was playing on Pathetic against Poke
*sees McCree legs glitching
"He's a flamingo!!"
I swear
Poke: being salty at teammates (though his team's Mercy did sux) and his own chat
She can contort her knees up to her face just by crouching
Also, those were the days of speed nanoboost
Her stupid crouch
Beyblade meta will always be missed
Bring back 110% speedboost
I would've prefered they took the damage resistance
If brought back, beyblade would probably be a decent counter to World of Tanks
I mean regardless
I can't think of any way of balancing matrix
Matrix is okay I think
Makes you more cautious on how to use your abilities
She just needed to not be unkillable
And the new patch does just that
Honestly they need to nerf tanks damage
All of them except Winston
For like 10/15%
^true
The anti-heal needs to be nerfed
Support with 80 dmg flat no fall off LUL
I mean
Realistically her ammo is basically a drug injection, so having a fall off wouldn't make sense
I think Blizzard is just scared of making her unusable
Yeah but she's OP now
They're being really cautious about the nerfs and buffs, so they don't pull another D.Va out
Yeah she is
But she'll get to the sweet spot eventually
I totally agree
It's so stupid, the team with the best Ana usually wins when I play comp
After the patch, Blizzard will probably see if she needs to get nerfed even more
Which she will
I trust Blizzard
I miss Zen
Are the details about the patch available yet or is it just guessing right now?
It's been on the PTR for a while now
The heal buff and effect duration of the granade is being reduced
Do you think the nerf is enough?
Fuck no lmao
The healing is ok now I guess
But the damage and anti-heal need to be nerfed
I believe the nerfs are to directly address the tank meta
Blizzard are good are stabilizing their games
OW is still young
It'll get there
Maybe not on the next patch, but yeah
I reckon by the time the league kicks off, the game will be at a much better place
lmao chat going crazy over DSPStanky
I wonder if they'll put out the new hero or start the league first
I expect a hero >_>
I reckon the new hero will come out before the league
They said new hero comes at early 2k17
^yeah, probably april
The league starts probably on Q3
Or so
Probably
They said they have a couple heroes on art stage
And have one or two on a much advanced stage
They'll want to make it a success since it seems they're putting a lot of money and effort into it
Slasher has a lot of knowledge of the game
But for some reason I can't stand him talking lol
I may be remembering wrong then
He was on NRG, right?
Numlocked stays?
Welp
They better get some damned good players
ikr
He's not very good
I'm not really sure
He's... inconsistent to say the least
Last time I saw them, they were getting stomped on MLG
FeelsBadMan
I was honestly expecting LG to lose this one
Same
3-0, damn
ISP fixed!
It delivered and proved itself to be better than the last one I was subscribed to
Ah geez
I'm too lazy to watch vods, I prefer live -_-
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Hammers 0 losses???
Holy shit
79% win rate all time, 6 win streak...
They're currently rebuilding NRG around him and Dummy
I have hope
They were getting really good before Gods and Pookz left
They actually played Lunatic Hai uncomfortably closely
Maybe they could even have reached their "Nr. 3 in NA status again"
But eh, let's see how this rebuilding will go
Hope so
Is there any place with Apex matches' schedule mapped out to a calendar?
Aw fuck Korean powerhouses' matches still so far away
These intercontinental championships are the best
according to the gosugamers shit the exact dates and times aren't known yet
although it's a round robin, so all teams in each group must go vs eachother
next matchups, based off the order and the times the matches happen, we can probably guess when exactly they'll be
OGN APEX Season 2 Group Stage:
Group A and B match-ups and times: http://i.imgur.com/3dU99hu.png
Group C and D match-ups and times: http://i.imgur.com/AKLdgxr.png
@toxic yacht @clever wagon
I already saw it bby
np fam
ayy, I'm so hyped
misfits will play on the next patch
hopefully they'll rek everyone
rip
Isn't the current Misfits not the same as DH Winter though?
nah, it's not
Nope, big changes
the only ones from back then are zebbo and nevix
Their feat in DH Winter was awesome
I know Zebbosai's one of the top DPS up there but idk about the new roster as a whole
imo tviq is the best overall dps player in the world
Yeah from what I heard
especially zebbo on his widow
Lululul
Zebbo just got shut down the whole time didn't he?
yeah, lul
it was embarrasing
like those soloq widows
lw blue played around it masterfully
They should've just be patient and play safe
much better than fnatic
I just hope Fnatic wins a match, let alone a series
Balance patches is pretty much right around the corner
Like 2 days
yeah, I hope that this triple dps is mostly preperation for the next patch
No I mean when Misfits was playing
yeah, imo they should have stuck to the meta for now
nevix is more flexy than tviq, but yes, tviq plays hog
I'm also pretty sure that he could pick of zarya or dva if necessary
they guy is a fucking monster
I'm confident C9 used their match against CONBOX as prep for new patch
They were playing like it was the new patch 90% of the time, besides a few 1.0 hooks
And even then it was Gods playing Hog, he should be able to switch around just fine
I still say Surefour is Tviq's peer @toxic yacht ๐
If Hook 2.0 affects plays that much, that is
With the change to hook's mechanics, pro players will take, relatively speaking, a longer time to get used to them because they were the ones that abused 1.0's mechanics to the greatest effect
Ye
About as well as one would expect to perform lmao
@viral aspen lmao
At least you have the chance to actually meet them
:/
But wait wouldn't he be playing in Korea servers right now with the rest of NV?
Will OGN APEX run the new patch if it's out on Tuesday?
yup
they have too
no lan client
the only lan client was at the world cup, all other "LANs" aren't actually real LANs
since they are still on Blizz servers
Interesting would be very interesting if the new patch comes out tomorrow before tuesday.
the new patch fucked Rogue over during Season 1
wouldn't shock me if it fucks over a team again
it also massively helped Envy become the clear cut number one in the world
instead of nr. 2-3
Is the patch enough to get rid of triple tank tho?
No, triple tank will still be viable
but hopefully more dps heavy lineups will make a comeback in a form that isn't superdive
Yep
From the few things I've heard from teams scrimming on the PTR, it's that a lot more different comps are viable
Triple tank, 2/2/2, triple dps
I hope for a future where a maximum of 3 is viable for every class
and maybe 4 stacks should work, but have super hard counters
A man can dream
In a perfect world every hero's perfectly balanced
in a perfect world every comp would run genji
at least in my perfect world, lul
oh shit, draw is ded
Hanzo is in a great spot atm imo
fairly situational, but high impact when used right
Bastion too
low skill bullshit, but super good for situational strats
mei is great
but the rest... eh
torb is also seeing more use though
His gun is powerful and armor packs are like mini heals.
Junkrat COULD be good, much in the same way Pharah can be. Area denial and splash is powerful. I think the lack of mobility and survivability once you get around him is what keeps him down.
Also probably doesn't help that he's like free charge for any Zaryas that may be present.
I mean he gets easily countered by DVa too.
Even eating 1 stray grenade is a huge help
True, but if DVa is spending her time pointing her matrix at spamrat, that means the rest of your team is free to target other, more important targets.
I want to see more pro sombra plays.
Well shit
Missed the entire AMM
Well shit
From the recap Hammers seem to really consistently work around Super's Reinhardt doesn't it
And successful almost every time
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=171263&site=overwatch Just wanted to let you English speakers know about this scandal. Players of LW...
TL:DR Pine and Nanohana are assholes
Ha!
https://clips.twitch.tv/gosutv_ow/HorribleKangarooTheTarFu a stagger is a stagger, but this might look like predators playing around with their prey esp to those who don't know about the game in-depth ._.
I'm guessing the female Zarya player is that godlike 17 y-o girl which went viral months ago?
Yeah
Hah
Yeah I remember something like her getting real threats happening
But man that reddit thread
@mortal kraken no advertising
Winter Premier starts at 5am my time :/
what happened with clg?
they got announced at a lan and then never heard of them again
they suck
i thought it was open for any team
Nope
guess that was just the weekly
did they play in any notable online tournaments as of late?
Nope
compLexity huh
2 Korean powerhouses todayyy
kek
Has CLG played in anything?
CLG is a popular org
Any VODs?
they just picked a shit roster
Yeah CLG is huge, their main focus is League of Legends though
eh, I already saw the post about nanohana and pine yesterday
keep in mind that they are, like, 16 or something
a lot of people say fucking dumbass things at that age, and iirc it wasn't nanohana himself who made the death threats, although he was on that team, which was already known
they're still fucking dumbasses, but a lot of it is probably just dumbass kids being edgy, especially if you consider when some of those things were said. When it comes to them potentially being members of that site... ugh, that sucks dick
Thank goodness I only have ever cheated in offline CS
Because back then I didn't even know how to play online by manual connection to server list
lol
BTW, remember Babybay from Kungarna? He was known as "Flex" in csgo and got ESEA banned in the middle of a tournament
and yeah, a ton of people cheated in the past
I feel like I'm the exception for never cheating in an fps
Well, ever since I knew how to play online I never even tried
Being accused of aimbotting even though I don't use one is much more satisfying
Delicious salt
I only got accused of hacking after some crazy triple I did in csgo. Keep in mind that I was silver elite, lemma go look it up. I also got accused of cheating in ow a few times (as fucking hanzo once) and the other time as 76 after I harryhooked a pharah
I love hack accusations
I just watched the replay
jesus, that csgo play was utter shit
silver awareness is terrible
fuck
oh shit, I won't have time
luckily I don't really care about bk stars and meta
I'll probably miss lh vs lw af blue though
Hmm, didn't see the match
I only watched the final VOD :/
Hammers vs LG final is basically The Bullying of Eissfeldt
Oh great, they aren't disbanding

