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sleek gazelle
Shadowburn is putting in some work as genji
Wow
Just as I say that
Graviton
Team kill
balmy wolf
They're doing better this round at least
CHANZU DA
It's over
Faze entire roster is getting replaced
arctic sorrel
rip
forest raven
Who is that being interviewed
Oh
Out of all the players
I did not expect the Lucio player to look like that
@balmy wolf FaZe got 2-0'd right
forest raven
Aight
Thank
Also @balmy wolf http://i.imgur.com/qsBh7Dz.png
At least he admits it
balmy wolf
wow cool
balmy wolf
Rest in peace
pseudo current
I have question for everyone:
I'm running a big inter-collegiate tournament in a week in Washington. We have four colleges competing, some big prizes for the teams, interviews of the teams, a really high quality stream. We're even going to be discussed on Twitch Weekly.
However, I never feel like I can make a post on Reddit worthy of attention. I'll be lucky if we get even a couple upvotes, let alone the attention I believe our event deserves.
Is there something I may be missing on how to catch /R/Overwatch's attention when I make this formal post in a couple days?
forest raven
Day 6 (Final Day) of the Winter Premiere Group Play:
Renegades 1 - 2 Kungarna
Luminosity Gaming 2 - 1 Team Liquid
Immortals 2 - 0 FaZe Clan
Citizen7 0 - 2 compLexity Gaming
Kungarna 2 - 1 FaZe Clan
plucky vortex
pseudo sail
So what does everyone think about the APEX groups? 😃
balmy wolf
They were released?
forest raven
The groups for OGN APEX Season 2:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/5npbw2/ogn_apex_s2_invited_teams_announced_groups/
Misfits is in the same group as LW Blue, LH and AF Red 
balmy wolf
jfc
Rest
In
Peace
Group C: CONBOX Spirit, Cloud9, Kongdoo Uncia, Afreeca Freecs Blue
Rip or not
forest raven
I expect Uncia to beat AF Blue
balmy wolf
Holy hell, how did they allow that Group B? Literally every single team in there has a good chance to win the entire tournament.
Pretty much
forest raven
kek
balmy wolf
Also r/competitiveoverwatch was quick on the Misfits flair change
So is FaZe disbanding now
forest raven
ikr
forest raven
lul
edgy remnant
wintry matrix
not sure if anyone cares, but now there's a brazilian tournament happening: https://www.twitch.tv/ignbr
dusty surge
(laughs in Brazilian)
wintry matrix
...hue
sick musk
jjajaja
violet hearth
Hue
mellow venture
Gay
jagged crater
holy group B of death
forest raven
ikr
jagged crater
now if we learened anything from season 1
is we really have no idea how the koreans will perform
when there are western teams mixed in
forest raven
I'm gonna say Misfits isn't gonna make it out of groups
jagged crater
well now they have more practice time than before so maybe they got some kinks out
balmy wolf
"hey lets put all the teams which have a good chance at winning in the same group"
G E N I U S
jagged crater
maybe they really did it randomly
toxic yacht
Info about Korean teams and how they've changed
Apparently Haksal is gonna fuck shit up
Hype intensifies
balmy wolf
I still bare a hatrid toward haksal
balmy wolf
Reu will never be the same
jagged crater
why did nanohana change his name to fl0w3r? Such a lame name 😦
jagged crater
it's like a 12 year old girl's username
forest raven
Nanohana actually means rapeseed
supple nymph
who does soldier on envyus
balmy wolf
HarryHook
supple nymph
@balmy wolf MVP Infinity vs EnVyUs?
balmy wolf
Envy
toxic yacht
Envy vs anyone 
devout topaz
i really hope that misfits is doing great on the scrims.
balmy wolf
What does scrim mean? Im new to this so pls dont trash me
limber pine
Scrimmage
spiral drift
scrims are where the teams nail down their strategies by playing other teams
devout topaz
yes, like, misfits, envyus, fnatic and c9 are on korea right now, so they're probaly playing with the others korean team to practice
the one thing i don't understand is when on the "lf-scrim" channels people say "lf scrim mid" or low, or high.
thin elk
Maybe they mean the SR
balmy wolf
then comes the question
what's classified as 'mid' and whats 'high'
high = masters/gm/top 500?
toxic yacht
JKW is off the active coL roster 
It's all your fault Draw
You jinxed them after asking me how long they've been together
forest raven
digital notch
where can i go to see the schedule for upcoming esport events
i wanna watch more events
balmy wolf
digital notch
When does the overwatch league start btw ?
balmy wolf
Middle of this year iirc
timid belfry
What is the overwatch league?
balmy wolf
https://overwatchleague.com/en-gb/ @timid belfry
sudden jay
if there were a team consisting of Winston, Tracer, Genji, Lucio, and Zenyatta, would a Zarya or a D.Va be best for the last spot?
scarlet jackal
this isnt the right channel for that
toxic yacht
APEX Season 2 starting in two days
It'll go with Envy vs MVP Infinity followed by Misfits vs LW Blue
I still think that group B is fucking idiotic since 3 of those teams could potentially take the whole thing and NV has the easiest bracket ever, but what can I do
¯_(ツ)_/¯
devout topaz
let me ask a question, do you guys believe in ex cheaters?
limber pine
what do you mean "believe in ex-cheaters"?
dusty surge
I believe in ex-ex-cheaters.
devout topaz
people who was cheaters in other games and say that they'll not use cheater never again
limber pine
i don't see why not
delicate sparrow
anyone else feel like C9 picking up gods is a questionable choice?
pine star
Why tho? Gods is top notch
balmy wolf
Their team right now is great and in my opinion, Mendo and Sure4 are better DPS than Gods
toxic yacht
probably because none of the two are comfortable on hog
gods also picked up zarya and harambe some time back
scarlet jackal
these matches would be a lot more fun if the teams would actually use more than one team :/
toxic yacht
kyky is now coaching NV, btw
scarlet jackal
but wow is it boring
oh it ate my message before that
idk maybe i havent seen enough pro overwatch
balmy wolf
probably i'll be the only one that want this but i really hope the PTR patch will hit Live before APEX 2
toxic yacht
kek, apex is starting tomorrow
no way it's hitting
it wouldn't be an apex season without a patch mid tournament that causes fucking massive meta shift
it also wouldn't be apex without some western team losing a member right before a match
pine star
lmao true
balmy wolf
obviosuly not tomorrow
but very soon
and yeah haha
we have to lose someone with "good aim"
pine star
Even if it hits 15 minutes before the tournament, the meta shift will still affect the teams as they wouldn't have enough time to practice
They'd have to figure the meta on the fly, just like last year
balmy wolf
True but 3/4 tanks meta is boring as hell to watch
pine star
It kind of is
The exciting part are dem hooks
But yeah, this cancer meta needs to go away asap
pine star
The sad thing is some pros that have been scriming on the PTR say the triple tank meta is still the way to go
Then again, some pros said Sombra would be overpowered
Guess we won't know for sure until the patch goes live
toxic yacht
most people who play ana also said that this nerf won't do shit
I also agree tbh
But as long as I don't have to see quad tank, I'll be happier
like, beyblade meta also often had 3 tanks
and that was MUCH more fun than this shit
pine star
Tbh tho there were some exciting matches on MLG and so far on NGE without the triple tank
We've had some McCree, some sick Pharah plays, even Hanzo
If anything the patch makes this even more viable
toxic yacht
yup
balmy wolf
a tryout as a coach
toxic yacht
Stop reading my mind
toxic yacht
they are definitely in need of a coach, lul
but he hasn't left the org yet
so he could be trying to get experience from coaching NV before trying to help is team
toxic yacht
You didn't hear?
toxic yacht
it was said if you scroll up
gods will probably be playing hog for now
since none of the other two dps is comfortable on him
balmy wolf
Oooohh
toxic yacht
and gods is in uber's words "Like Tarzan, but with a chainhook"
balmy wolf
I thought that guy was asking if they did pick him up would it be a good choice
toxic yacht
the three of them are also flexes who can go into off-tank while playing insane hitscan
balmy wolf
not that they actually picked him up
toxic yacht
and surefour and mendo can also play projectile really well
balmy wolf
But they just lost the best Zarya in the game
toxic yacht
oh, lul, he was referring to the actual event
yeah, losing kyky's zarya sucks
that's true
balmy wolf
And I dont really think Gods, Mendo or Sure4 have a very good Zarya
toxic yacht
but it could potentially be for the better
balmy wolf
We'll just have to see
toxic yacht
if we also ever get a meta where 3 dps are preferred
balmy wolf
I thought Gods was on Kingdom tbh
toxic yacht
nah, he and pookz were just trying out
mendo plays an okay zarya
not sure about gods's
balmy wolf
So who's on Kingdom now
toxic yacht
manofsnow and jer
kyb was just there for tryouts
basically, since their spot was secured, they've been fucking around a bit
balmy wolf
No thats RNG
toxic yacht
Kingdom became rng
balmy wolf
So kingdom hasnt picked up anyone new?
toxic yacht
nope, don't think so
balmy wolf
rip
balmy wolf
the dream is real
mendo on genji
surefour on tracer
gods on widow
dive meta is back bois```@toxic yacht
toxic yacht
I saw this comment
toxic yacht
I know, lul
it's one of the only subreddits I go to these days
that and /r/truegaming
toxic yacht
That one clip?
from lg vs c9?
I already know what it is before I click on it, lemme verify
yup
toxic yacht
@earnest ingot it spread here too
pine star
Who's replacing Skipjack btw?
jagged crater
so what happens when nv faces c9? conflict of interest when kyky is coaching nv
balmy wolf
They just play eachother like normal
jagged crater
might be awkward wouldnt it since kyky is still contracted with c9?
jagged crater
i like snowball
dusty surge
Skipjack sent me a DM on twiatter and was like "bro, can you sub in? thanks"
And I was like "sure no probs m8"
This is totally true and not a fabrication at all
toxic yacht
he wanted to go flex while he was at nrg already
you could see it in glimpes like when he went hog
jagged crater
he was but he wasn't amazing at it
toxic yacht
he also went zarya during the world cup
jagged crater
at least when comparing to kyky, who is one of the best flex players in NA
pine star
You think NV will take this one home again?
jagged crater
depends if the patch hits
it might hit tomorrow and then all teams are in disarray again
scurrying for scrims under the new changes
envy seems to have worked well under last minute changes
jagged crater
but that ws also in part of mickie being a godlike dva and dva being godlike in meta
toxic yacht
and a god zarya, according to internethulk
and a better widow than taimou, apparently
jagged crater
if dva is nerfed to trash, we'll see how mickie's zarya can compete
balmy wolf
Im eager to see his Better than Taimou Widow and Godlike Zarya
jagged crater
just for the sake of roles, mickie is prob best as flex
toxic yacht
iirc hulk got mickie because of his zarya
jagged crater
since taimou and harry are not known to play tank (except hog who's basically dps anyway)
toxic yacht
he never expected the whole dva thing to happen
and mickie actually went zarya, once
jagged crater
zarya has been in the meta for a long time so there's going to be better zaryas to go against
question is who is taimou going to pick
hook 2.1 hog?
mccree?
jagged crater
harry's soldier still dazzles me, his tracking is mezmerizing
pine star
Mickie also plays god level Genji from what I've heard
toxic yacht
he could go up against oputo's genji iirc
oputo was that one insane genji from team thailand
pine star
I remember
balmy wolf
I remember very little from the WC
pine star
Can't wait for tomorrow
balmy wolf
The only thing that stands out in my mind is Zunba's Zarya play on Eichenwalde
pine star
Now I'm hoping for the patch to hit lol
I remember Aus getting wrecked by nano boosted Symmetra
balmy wolf
I remember literally 0 from the qualifiers
Besides that there was 1 obvious winning team per group
pine star
I didn't actually see the qualifiers for my region
My country sucks hard at esports anyway
toxic yacht
I watched the ones from my region
they won one game
got rekt by twoeasy and dantedante next
was not fun to watch
but wat7 was on the team
balmy wolf
I'm almost 100% sure none of my country's games were streamed
pine star
My team was completely rekt by Chile
balmy wolf
Oh no
pine star
And you remember just how well Chile did in the cup lol
balmy wolf
I remember at least 1 match was
toxic yacht
stylosa was on team uk
pine star
Lol I saw Stylosa as Lúcio
toxic yacht
admittedly, chile was up against Team USA and Team ShaDowBurn
pine star
Yeah but, I mean cmon
balmy wolf
I remember Germany being a stacked team
toxic yacht
usa arguably had one of the strongest rosters in the entire tournament
balmy wolf
then they just choked all their matches
toxic yacht
it was just tanks
balmy wolf
lul
pine star
They didn't put up a fight
balmy wolf
If USA practiced
They would have had a good chance at beating Sk
like a really good chance
pine star
USA beat them with Bastion/Mercy/Reinhardt
toxic yacht
USA had the potential to win imo
pine star
That's just sad man
balmy wolf
In USA vs SK, SK got the 3 maps they practiced
toxic yacht
Yeah, lol, Seagull pulled out the el presidente
balmy wolf
and that USA hadnt played at all
toxic yacht
fun fact, seagull is the one who invented the strat
balmy wolf
El Presidente is what we often call protect-the-Bastion compositions. Popularized in part by Seagull, this strategy mostly revolves around putting a Bastion on a payload and protecting him as he tears through the opponents. While not brought out often, it still has a place in the meta whenever a creative team is brave enough to identify the opportunity.
pine star
Tviq Bastion is something to remember tbh
Didn't know it was called El Presidente lmao @balmy wolf
toxic yacht
I forgot if surefour dubbed it like that
but iirc surefour also coined the term beyblade
for the strat
pine star
Surefour aka Cisco Ramon
balmy wolf
I remember him calling Death Blossom beyblade on his stream
And I think that was before the meta started
pine star
What time does Apex stream starts?
balmy wolf
10 hours
balmy wolf
rip
last apex
Are there any PS4 Tournaments?
gritty crow
Anyone watching APex?
jagged crater
nv might actually lose to mvp inf
and they were considered a lower tier korean team compared to the others
We really have no idea how good each korean team is
gritty crow
mvp ult control has been really impressive compared to nv
jagged crater
harry and taimou on the hitscan duo 😮
the interesting part is mvp infinity making 222 work pretty well vs 3-4 tank
tho envy doing incrediblyt well on gibraltar
toxic yacht
gibralter is one of their best maps
not really surprised
they always do the quad tank + 76 + ana there
but mvp is doing insanely well, lol
I thought that Envy would crush them
jagged crater
what was the first map they lost on?
small marsh
illios was the first map
jagged crater
so envy lost on 2cp and koth
envy was always better on payloads (as with other NA teams)
jagged crater
2cp is usually envy's weakness
something lesser teams can beat them on
so many good korean genji players
balmy wolf
Hulk looks a lot older with grey hair lul
Holy shit that hook onto nanoboosted easybro by Taimou
looks like i missed a good set
balmy wolf
Yeah obviously
toxic yacht
it's obv because he's an old ass man
btw, the oldest ow pro I found is Cooller with 30
A year older than our friend Dennis
jagged crater
hulk aged 30 years ahead since
he joined envy
cooller quake legend, he's been around
toxic yacht
cypher is also doing some overwatch stuff
pine star
Why the fuck let Harry touch Zarya lmao
pine star
He didn't do shit tho
balmy wolf
Reinforce 
jagged crater
swedish powerhouse
jagged crater
budget monte
pine star
He should've done remote casting
toxic yacht
lmao, those Zebbosai masks
jagged crater
so many korean fangirls
toxic yacht
the fangirls alone are worth all the effort and 6 hour scrim days
jagged crater
girls scream for them
harryhook's tracking is so smooth like an aimbot
but nanohana's tracking looks even more aimbotty by being crazy erratic
toxic yacht
nanohana aims like taimou on tracer
if you've ever payed attention to Taimou's tracer, he does the same thing
jagged crater
nanohana does bunch of microflicks, taimou does wider flicks
toxic yacht
but yeah, his mccree are pure godly flicks
gritty crow
Misfits 😍
toxic yacht
yeah, nevix is probably the best overall ow player alive rn imo
tviq is the better dps though
like, nevix is so fucking flexible
balmy wolf
Misfits is the new coL @toxic yacht
toxic yacht
am busy rn, dunno what's going on
balmy wolf
Oh right well
LWB ran sym
put SG on top of the elevator
Tviq killed it as hanzo
then they killed 4
and the game crashed
vale peak
misfits are always good to watch
toxic yacht
even after the roster changes
vale peak
they are not playing meta all the time
toxic yacht
they're still great
vale peak
they always are trying something different
toxic yacht
tbh my support has moved from rougue to misfits
I only loved rogue because of TviQ and Reinforce
aKm is great though
1 support on offense?
they want to stack tanks while still going double dps
lmao
so this is the result
flat sparrow
you were saying ?
toxic yacht
Well, I am impressed
toxic yacht
this would be dismissed as a throw or troll comp in matchmaking
flat sparrow
report tracer troll
flat sparrow
gif that flick
toxic yacht
well, atleast 2cp didn't take long
I don't ever want this gamemode to talk to me or my son again
toxic yacht
I find the gameflow to be extremely frustrating + I hate stall comps
flat sparrow
3 at the bootom and 3 top
when the 3 on top engage the three at the bottom go to point and you'll get one third of it and sometimes 2
toxic yacht
like, if you don't snowball after point A you just throw your bodies at the point until the enemy team fucks up and makes a mistake, and then the enemy team will just stall like cray if you don't do a squeaky clean wipe
flat sparrow
i am not playing and having fun
toxic yacht
yup
as always
at least illios was fun
with their crazy comps
lmao, that self destruct
flat sparrow
how do you even hold that
flat sparrow
nope
toxic yacht
3-3? That was literally the beginning of the tank meta
NiP decided to go 3-3 with 0 dps
toxic yacht
zebbo was literally doing nothing on widowmaker
why were they so adamant on going triple dps
pine star
OMG WIDOW PLS SWAP
toxic yacht
also, fuck that one crash that I missed
balmy wolf
toxic yacht
anyway, who the fuck approved these groups?
balmy wolf
Idiots lul
toxic yacht
3 of the strongest teams in one fucking group
they're ruining the best matches through knocking the best teams out early on
do they want to give Envy another free win?
balmy wolf
Envy paid OGN
To rig it
Thats what it looks like at least
"Listen, I need you to put one of our top EU competitors in a group with 2 of the strongest Korean teams."
"Also, put us with the worst Korean teams in the tourney."
"Thanks"
toxic yacht
Either that or Taimou threatened to explore the interviewers thighs
so they gave them the good group
pine star
Tbh Misfits played kinda bad
toxic yacht
imo they tried to go triple dps too much
pine star
They were really stubborn some times
I appreciate all the crazy comps they pulled off, nothing makes me more happy than a team being creative like that
But when it's not working, it's not working
balmy wolf
Zebbo needed to switch fucking 2 months ago
he was on that widow for what felt like years
pine star
Exactly
toxic yacht
His widowmaker worked once
or twice
vs fucking fnatic
it even didn't work vs fnatic at some point
on their first gibralter match
fucking widowmakers who are too stubborn to switch is now infesting pro games
the salt is real
pine star
:Angery:
balmy wolf
toxic yacht
Fnatic
pine star
Oh right
pine star
They're practically EU lmao
real falcon
NIP OW team when
balmy wolf
They already have a team
supple nymph
envyus vs mvp infinity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Kyhk00BOQ
balmy wolf
Yeah we've seen it
supple nymph
ah, i just started
right off the bat one of the mvp guys kills himself with tracer bomb
supple nymph
spoilers
pine star
It may have been expected but EnVy had a hard time
supple nymph
mvp infinity only has a 65% winrate and they are world rank 45
but i guess korea
why are there no upcoming matches with NRG
no seagull
balmy wolf
Because they're not in the tournament
balmy wolf
Because NRG is going through changes
supple nymph
apparently shaq owns nrg: http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/17209251/shaq-nrg-esports-pick-overwatch-team
balmy wolf
Indeed
frank frigate
GoOoOoOd morning everyone, I just posted this week's meta report threads:
/r/overwatch https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5oious/overwatch_hero_tournament_meta_report_a_hint_of/
/r/comp
Not much changed except an uptick offensive Pharah usage that's taking advantage of the predictability of tank-based defenses at the moment.
I also interviewed Rise Nation's Phaz about the PTR changes and you might find that interesting! Let me know what you think in the comments or by @ 'ing me here
supple nymph
it's kinda sad most of the heroes are so low tier
supple nymph
other mobas dont have tanks that can either one shot you or have really high dps like overwatch does do they?
balmy wolf
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pine star
#Bring6WinstonsMetaBack
stark thicket
I notice these KR teams almost always have 2-2-2 comp
balmy wolf
Thankfully, the APEX matches had some nice hero picks
balmy wolf
That comp omg
pine star
I mean, it can work, it's a top tier strategy once you polish it to the max
But you have to realise when something is not working and fucking switch
I cringed so hard when it was almost overtime and Zebbo was still on Widow
C'mon Misfits, you're better than this
jagged crater
waddup
pine star
Heya
limber pine
Day 1 of Group Play Phase 2 of the Winter Premiere Live NOW: https://www.twitch.tv/overwatch_nge
Renegades vs Immortals
compLexity vs TeamLiquid
Kungarna vs Luminosity
Immortals vs compLexity
TeamLiquid vs Kungarna
pine star
The play by play caster is so awkward
pseudo sail
Hey folks if you missed APEX's games today you can catch up w/ my recap, including players & map of the day. > https://medium.com/@RadoNonfire/apex-group-stage-day-1-the-king-is-back-32f256629fd5
balmy wolf
Looks like coL is back to their usual self
pine star
@balmy wolf about damn time
balmy wolf
nvm they're getting spawn camped now
indigo current
ouch
pine star
Jesus Christ that was disgusting
pine star
lmao Twitch chat is the most cancerous place on earth, but some asshole just said "we're losing, let's go quad tank"
So sad
...and what's funny is that Liquid won on 2/2/2 lol
balmy wolf
Best comp confirmed
balmy wolf
Okay now coL are destroying them again
balmy wolf
so that's why Blizz doesn't want to buff her
balmy wolf
LOL
balmy wolf
damn
Turns out one of the casters is actually a Rocket League caster
That explains a lot
pine star
Which one? The play-by-play one?
pine star
The host?
lmao
And he's probably the best out of the three
Tbh I can stand the host and the color caster, but the play-by-play dude... geez
balmy wolf
I don't dislike the host either tbh
but the other 2 are just awful
Thankfully ZP AND HEX will be returning this weekend <3
pine star
Are they casting the live event?
pine star
Is that the $2000 something tournament?
balmy wolf
This Saturday
pine star
Isn't Cloud9 in Korea tho?
balmy wolf
Yeah, they're competing in the APEX tourney
pine star
When does APEX end?
balmy wolf
No idea
balmy wolf
Such a one sided match...
I'll be surprised if Kungarna doesn't get picked up after this
wintry matrix
is just me, or both Immortal matches were/are being really good?
pine star
All Immortal matches are good tbh
The kids are just hella good
omg this caster dude
warm zenith
are there any good channels on youtube for tournament VODs
wintry matrix
warm zenith
ty
quartz spindle
I'm new to the esports side of overwatch but I want to start getting into it, I was just wondering if anyone here could tell me a good team to start following for NA and EU. And if possible who the best pro Zarya player is?
balmy wolf
@pine star Luminosity is replacing C9 in the Monthly Melee
pseudo sail
@quartz spindle Zebbosai is a good Zarya player.
pseudo sail
as for a team nV and Misfits.
brisk zephyr
last sphinx
pseudo sail
Korea definitely doesn't have the best players, at least for now.
as for teams. Good EU teams are nV and Misfits @quartz spindle
Why are there like 10 people named thelegend27, is it reference to something? 😄
toxic yacht
NV is still IDDQD and an EU team in my heart /s
quartz spindle
Look up on "YouTube legend 27 video" @pseudo sail
pine star
@quartz spindle Harbleu is a beast Zarya too
@balmy wolf CoL getting their shit together?
balmy wolf
Everyone's been beating everyone so far so can't tell for sure
quartz spindle
@pine star I think everyone tells me beast zarya players but no one knows who the undoubtibly best zarya is
pine star
@quartz spindle there's not such thing as "the undoubtedly best"
balmy wolf
I'd still say Kyky
quartz spindle
What about Miro on Winston then? @pine star
pine star
@quartz spindle there's no really that many Winston players at his level, so it's pretty clear tbh
But if you ask for the "undoubtedly best McCree" or such, you're gonna get a lot of names
quartz spindle
Still counts towards my argument on the overall best
pine star
Anyway
quartz spindle
That is true because their is surefore, IDDQD, tailspin etc.
pine star
If you wanna see good professional Zarya players, some names to follow are Kyky, Harbleu, Zunba
EnVy's Mickie played some sick Zarya in world cup too
Talespin on McCree? That's not really his strength as far as I know
quartz spindle
Just thought because of miro their would be a definitive answer on Zarya. From what I've seen in the games I've watches Mickie Harbleu and Zunba where the best
pine star
He plays mostly projectile, doesn't he?
quartz spindle
He's a very very good tracer but yeah he's a great pharah too
pine star
Arguably the best Pharah out there
quartz spindle
What about my other main, Reaper? who is the best?
balmy wolf
I think you meant Taimou?
pine star
Taimou plays some sick Reaper
balmy wolf
Because Talespin isn't really a top hitscan dps
pine star
Fnatic's Buds too
quartz spindle
eerpS I've seen destroy as Widow and Zarya too
No on the overwatch world cup, Tailspin played tracer and even ster said that he was a strong if not their best tracer player on their team for the world cup
pine star
Tracer's not really a long distance hitscan hero tho
quartz spindle
I was just saying about what Polo was saying
balmy wolf
That's because all of Team USA were either best with Projectile DPS or not DPS players at all
or, in the case of Gods, just doesn't play Tracer
pine star
Talespin played some Tracer for EnVy before the world cup tho
quartz spindle
Well they didnt need to play a tracer, a genji would have worked for some matches (Not against Korea as seagull saw) or even a different DPS
Would Soon be considered the best tracer?
balmy wolf
Yeah I'm just saying that he isn't a hitscan DPS player
He's easily one of the best DPS players in the world, so he can obviously play the other DPS heroes at a high skill level
He is just best with Projectile heroes
pine star
^this
balmy wolf
And yes, SoOn is the best Tracer definitely
pine star
Tracer and Reaper don't really count as hitscan (even though technically their weapons are hitscan)
Buds is up there with Soon tho
quartz spindle
I love this discussion, im finally learning about pros lol
i'd love to see this as a team tbh
pine star
I remember a faceoff between Buds and Soon as Tracer
Don't remember in which tournament
Buds killed him his fair share
Just outplayed him
Not all the time, but yeah
balmy wolf
Find me the VOD because I dont remember that
quartz spindle
SoOn on dps, Zunba on zarya, Harbleu on rein, EverMore on Road, Ryujehong on ana and Grego on lucio. (Still a noob when comes to Pro's but think they would be best in their positions in that comp)
quartz spindle
I've heard that his rein is top notch
quartz spindle
Isn't evermore like the best OW player tho?
jovial eagle
what does that even mean
pine star
That doesn't necessarily translates to the professional scene
For what I know, he solo qd his way to top 1
Far different from a professional team environment
But what do I know lol
balmy wolf
Being good on ranked ladder != Being good in a professional envrionment
quartz spindle
Again said was only a noob picking the team
pine star
If I had to make a dream team, it'd be
balmy wolf
Evermore is on a team
jovial eagle
clone seagull 5 times
balmy wolf
That team isnt really that good though
pine star
Miro as dive tank, MESR on Reinhardt (his team sucks, but he's top notch), Ryujehong on Ana, Tviq and Taimou as DPS and InternetHulk as Lúcio/shotcaller
balmy wolf
Dream team for this meta is:
HarryHook on 76
Reinforce on Rein
Ryujehong on Ana
Harb on Roadhog
Kyky on Zarya
Pookz/Grego on Lucio
Or swap out Harry for Mickie
pine star
Reinforce on Rein
pine star
He mopped the floor with Taimou lmao
forest raven
Tru
pine star
toxic yacht
btw, during dreamhack buds went tracer vs soon a few times
turns out that his tracer is kind of insane
example of buds being stronk
quartz spindle
Same gonna start watching it back tho
pine star
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR
Thank you @toxic yacht
I knew it was on Hollywood, but didn't remember in which tournament it was
stuck stag
...
balmy wolf
balmy wolf
What are the big OW esport events of the year?
The ones going on right now are in the channel description
pine star
Of the year? The league no doubt
balmy wolf
How many matches are in the round robin of the winter premier?
dusty surge
each team plays each other team once
pine star
How is the league not an event?
balmy wolf
That's implying its a one time thing
or an ongoing thing, like apex
How can immortals have 7 wins 2 loses if they only play 5 teams?
limber pine
Phase 1?
balmy wolf
They played 1 match everyday
except for day 5
and then 2 more yesterday
So what's the difference between phrase 1 and 2
toxic yacht
Phase 1 was a round robin of 8 while 2 were eliminated during it
Phase 2 is then 6 teams
2 will get eliminated again
and 4 will head over to PAX for the lan
or something
thick tinsel
Where do you guys go get updated and learn when teams are playing?
limber pine
wut? standings?
limber pine
balmy wolf
Thanks bb
limber pine
np fam
forest raven
Now we have two different pins with those three sites topkek @balmy wolf
forest raven
ayy lmao
balmy wolf
@dense trench hey bubber, can you do me a solid and remove my pin
then remove the oldest pin
and re pin that one
so its at the top?
❤
also go bed
balmy wolf
I think coL is back
Actually it's hard to tell since they're extremely inconsistent
nvm they lost the round
forest raven
Jkw was the problem
balmy wolf
Classic quad tank
balmy wolf
Okay they still won
forest raven
@toxic yacht @balmy wolf coL beat RNG and LG today as well 
thin elk
Ok now I see this Zebbosai throw you been talking about @balmy wolf
pine star
^I'm still fuckin' tilted about that match, Jesus Christ
toxic yacht
I still haven't fucking recovered
This is exactly what I feared when I saw Zebbo on Widow back at Dreamhack
But he made it work
This is just... argh
But we should be praising LW Blue more than we are shitting on Misfits
LW Blue played around that comp amazingly well when compared to coL and Fnatic
pine star
I still think that comp is the future
But ffs if it's not working fuckin' switch kfkskdjxjdbd
Ok I'll calm down now
I get so tilted whenever I remember it
sick musk
so how are things going in the world of esports?
toxic yacht
World of fucking tanks
Twas more interesting a few months back, although APEX is shaping up to be fucking great
especially with the new patch releasing soon
teams have been scrimming on ptr, so the things they come up with are bound to be interesting
sick musk
sounds pretty good then
balmy wolf
Its been hell up till now
toxic yacht
^
sick musk
My ultimate goal is to one day join an esports team
bitter hearth
me too thanks
dusty surge
o no
limber pine
FINAL Day of Group Play Phase 2 for the Winter Premiere Live in ~3 minutes: https://www.twitch.tv/overwatch_nge
balmy wolf
Ooo
dusty surge
Thanks mister Guy.
forest raven
@balmy wolf @limber pine Winghaven throwing for skins
forest raven
Yeah ikr
balmy wolf
Also new RNG icon?
dusty surge
Wow, Kungarna punching complexity in the dick.
balmy wolf
Ohh
Detroit Renegades bois
Oh wow
Kyb is back
Also, C7 kicked half their roster
forest raven
lul
limber pine
Torbjorn defense OP
balmy wolf
Mangachu best Torb
jagged crater
2cp sucks
been suckin since ever
blizzard cmon do something
It's magnifired by the tank meta
cuz nothing dies
jagged crater
Pharah's been getting some picks
winter pier
@balmy wolf that missed hammer down LUL
balmy wolf
kek
winter pier
jovial eagle
seems like better tactics are required in tank meta?
winter pier
juv3nile LUL
winter pier
if Luminosity lose they're gonna be so salty
balmy wolf
If team liquid lose 1-2 and Luminosity win 2-1 they'll both finish 16-15 who wins the tie breaker?
balmy wolf
anyone else watching the winter premier?
Liquid vs immortals
yep
Best
amazing
proven musk
I take it GrimReality is a really good Hitscan DPS
proven musk
dude is making plays left and right in every match he's in
hearty solstice
That mcree was nasty
winter pier
Nanosymmetra LUL
limber pine
funny how not killing a single de-meched dva caused all that
forest raven
@limber pine I'm guessing IMT is cleaning up LG
limber pine
Round 1 they did; not watching currently
forest raven
ic
forest raven
The Four Teams going to the Winter Premiere LAN Finals are:
Immortals
Kungarna
compLexity Gaming
Luminosity Gaming
jagged crater
outside of c9 and envy, these are the next best NA teams right?
where did kungarna come from? They're playing so insane lately
forest raven
Cloud9 currently is a bit weak, especially in this meta, come mid-2017 I can see teams like IMT and Kungarna, if they keep up their performances they've shown in the WP, they could be on par with the best of NA. Also, Fnatic, the third NA team at APEX is one of the best teams in NA as well @jagged crater
jagged crater
think we need to see more c9
they just swapped kyky for gods too
on paper, i think they're very good
forest raven
C9, now with an all star dps line up with Surefour, Mendo and Gods should be able to perform a lot better in a meta that isn't tank heavy