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Oh shit I didn't notice

Could they get picked up by TSM?
Dunno, reunited is staying with their current 6-man roster
twoeasy is still on faze and I have no idea what's gonna happen
it's like they want to lose the winter premier
I wonder who they'll get instead 
They don't stream today's matches via twitch right?
z
Man... OW rosters cycle so damn much.
In the middle of a tournament seems like a dumb time to drop someone, too.
Good morning everyone! I just posted this week's Meta Report discussion thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5n5qy7/overwatch_hero_meta_report_the_tanks_last_stand/
Not much to say about the meta itself -- it didn't change that much since MLG Vegas while I was gone. I did get some good quotes from pros about the PTR changes though, check it out and let me know what you think in the comments or here by @'ing me!
Hey guys, got a question. Do you think Immortals or Renegades will win?
Renegades
This is corect in so many ways https://youtu.be/Ut29jmlAa_A
i was watching verbo's stream and he thinks immortals can take renegades
wait is RNG the shorthand for renegades
Yes
skipjack is off the active misfits roster
wants to let em have a 6/6 french roster
jeez
Does mei get played in pro
Ok good
man, looks like everyone except misfits got the bum end of the deal
ult charge rate
Ok
you could get it crazy fast if you landed enough headshots before
high level players could get it twice in a teamfight if it got heated enough
I think they should buff the charge rate for dragon blade
eh, I think that genji is in a functional place right now, it's just that the meta sucks
he gets his ult crazy fast anyway
Yeah tanks are not good for genji
I think mercy needs cool down reduction instead of damage boost
Or a cleanse
For her to be viable again
Day 4 of Group Play for the Winter Premiere LIVE now: https://www.twitch.tv/overwatch_nge
Immortals vs Renegades
compLexity Gaming vs TeamLiquid
Citizen7 vs Kungarna
Luminosity Gaming vs FaZe Clan
TeamLiquid vs Citizen7
@balmy wolf Kyb's subbing in for manOFsnow for RNG
aw fuck
Ooo
Or testing Kyb out
I thought mOs was a sub himself though
Yeah he was
Tfw I need to actually get out of bed to start watching this
I thought that IMT might actually take this
Dude I woke up 30 minutes before it started
Not watched some pro shit for aaaages

Oh thank god
Where did you get feelstiltedman btw @forest raven
COW
kek
Why would they ever replace enigma
1-2-3
OMG
1-2-3
MANGA'S PLAYING PHARAH
GRIM
INTO GRIMCREE
ayy
Rip genji
OHH YEAAAH
You have ult? I'll just headshot bodyshot HAHA
I think IMT know they can run McCree because RNG doesn't have snow anymore
Juv3nile's throwing
IMT has been shutting down these ults brilliantly
I know i know
Not enough damage through sound barrier
It didn't look like any Rein ults landed
I didn't even see Nomy ult
inb4 RNG completes the map with 4mins left
What on earth
Streets phase already
Renegades rushing b
GRIM NO
Rip grim
Channeling their inner ruskie
Lmao
Sherlockey op
These casting are pretty lackluster
I looked away for two seconds and kyb finally killed people with an ult
Kyb got the quad after the earthshatter was over
4 minutes thirty into the factory
45s difference in timebank
The casters used to be pretty hype during the end of the qualifiers
idk what happened
Nomy lol
What was that wall lol
A warning
lul
CMON IMT
This is the most hype match since nV vs. Rogue
I really like these casters actually, I wasn't sure at first
rip
JUVE3NILE STOPPED THROWING
N A N O B L A D E
AGILITIES STOPPED THROWING
WOOOOOOOO
YEEEESSSS
I M T
Agilities too strong
Are Renegades and Immortals well known teams?
IMT's been getting more and more well known over the past couple months
The Winter Premiere is both of these team's chance to get recognised on the wider stage, though
They also won the GosuGamers award for Most Promising Team of 2017
I know the names of FaZe, Luminosity, Liquid and Complexity
I know Cit7 are a newer team
with LWRed getting the Community Choice award
But yeah, come mid-2017 I can see RNG and IMT standing with nV, C9, Fnatic in terms of popularity
Still says 0-0 
That'll update I think
Kinda tempted to register as a Free Agent on OW MLG once I hit diamond, might be my shot as pro gaymen
I'll be the new Shadder2k
Pretty much all pro players are top 500
(I have no chance, might be fun to join a team :P)
kek
I'll see if I can work my way into my uni's roster
With the way IMT and RNG have been performing this tournament, they deserve to be going to the events nV, C9, FaZe, Fnatic etc. go to
@balmy wolf STEAMROLLED 1ST POINT ON 66
GRIM ON REAPER
it was fucking brutal
Is Grim the new Taimou?
rip

jfc
omg
that fucking clutch
LETS GO
Agilities MVP
AGILITIES
dude
WHAT'D I JUST SAY
fucking grim
WELCOME TO R E A L I T Y
THAT's A HUGE PICK
HOLY SHIT
AGILTIES YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD
IKR
I think what teams need to do
Is just never let IMT go into OT
Because they will beat you
MangaChu going Pharah into Grims 76
On 66 of all maps
o shit
This is why I love these 2 teams
Meta?
Fuck that noise
pls no
Yeah true
And RNG are capping first faster than IMT
IMT just can't defend against RNG
Oh man
Agilities has pulled out the Genji
6 ults
6 ults
IMT used all their ults
GET REKT
OOOOOHHHH
YE BOI
mmm
AGILITIES
delicious
4 ults tho
for RNG
2 ults for IMT
no 3
OH YEAH
JESUS DOWN
LETS GOO BOIS
JESUS
CMON
HOLY SHIT YEAAAH
Are these best of 3 now?
Group play matches are bo3, yes
Err, I meant best of 5, but the answer is no.
WAIT
i knew it
WHAT HAPPENED TO COL
What do you mean? @forest raven
They said that there were some roster changes for coL
Who is winghaven
He played Rein for Reu
No idea
This roster has been together for so long though
I dont really root for them but it'd be sad to see them break up for good
Will TSM ever pick up a team
Jesus that clip
So many ults used
with 3:30 left
lol
Why isnt Liquid called Earthquake

lmao
was the IMT x RNG match that good?
Is the place to hold on Hollywood the house next to the choke?
LUL

I'm a coL fan because I'm a Harb fan
ster is luminosity right?
Ster isn't on a pro team
He streams under LG
oh he streams under the label but not the team
omg
btw Oasis brawl is gone
Liquid nearly full held on Hollywood
Wanghaven FeelsAmazingMan
Wanghaven 

Well coL is finally doing stuff now
This is the first EU player that this roster has picked up
An incredibly shaky start
They didnt say
Greetings
New AUS team @forest raven
What
ic
Honestly I got no idea how to follow the OCE scene
Because it kinda doesn't exist
do we know if there's going to be an overwatch worlds again this year
Nope
Isn't Overwatch League supposed to start this year?
Yep
Yeah
I'm wondering how the bidding is going to go for the cites since the eSports orgs will have to bid with traditional sports orgs
renegades bid for detriot obviously
Miami Heat's acquired a stake in Misfits
3rd map for your bois
Oh thank god
They flubbed that 3rd map
1 repost
I'd say Numlocked and Clockwork have the highest chance to go

hahaha
Also don't want to get DQ'd 
Day Four of the Winter Premiere Group Play:
Immortals 2 - 0 Renegades
compLexity Gaming 1 - 2 Team Liquid
Citizen7 0 - 2 Kungarna
Luminosity Gaming 2 - 1 FaZe Clan
Team Liquid 2 - 0 Citizen7
Damn Faze got dunked on
Harbleu is the zarya I aspire to be

he's too strong
His Zarya play is bonkers
But his general team play could use a bit of work
Getting beat by Liquid 
smdh
Bring our baby boi Jkw back
but then our god Harbleu reminds us we can all be gods
kek
I've just finished setting my harbleu shrine up
The Winter Premiere is a great example of "A > B, and B > C, but that doesn't mean A > C"
yup
coL > Kungarna, Kungarna > Liquid, Liquid > coL
Kungarna, Renegades and Immortals have all done well this tourney
yah, then their Reinhardt made some...interesting choices
Is it possible for them to get in the top 6?
I doubt it
they would need a complete meltdown by both FaZe and coL
I believe it
Immortals and Renegades should be joint first
kek
Today and tomorrow's matches
I think if manOFsnow was with RNG today it would have gone differently
Aren't IMT the kings of overtime?
Yep
oh yeah, Agilities stalled point B on R66 
I think Agilities stalled for his team on point 2 of 66 today for like 20 seconds by himself
as tracer
Yeah
He was my MVP for that match
And Grim got an insane barrage on the corner on point 3
Which allowed them to push all the way to the fuckin end
Agilities is just so fuckin good
Yep
Just sad that this competition is entirely during exams week
You have exams when you back after Christmas?
Ye
That's the norm in the Uk
I wish we had exams before christmas but a shorter christmas break :(
Otherwise I would have stayed up to watch the big matches
Other than RNG vs IMT
How long is your break?
@balmy wolf that is YOUR opinion mkay
connorj is nutty
they're nutty is what your'e saying?
wut
o nice
liquid just capped point A on KR
Oh shit
RAPHA ATE MANGA'S GRAVITON
LOOL
Yeah Rob told me earlier
Ooh
Tell me about this 2017 RNG
idk who nico
RNG got beat 2-0 by IMT with Kyb
Now they get beat 2-1 by Liquid with manOFsnow
๐
And now Liquid is number 2
booo
ic
More like DSP
Because of aKm and SoOn being gods
mhm
I get they want an all french roster but idk about this
Fuckin dahang. He's like 10 pounds and a bag of chips away from cosplaying the South Park WoW player.
kek
How you gonna sprint into the abyss
@balmy wolf Today must be opposite day. Kungarna just 2-0'd IMT and didn't lose a single point to them
Dude idk what happened
But that was not the IMT from yesterday or last week
Grim literally walked off the map
Agilities shot a graviton over the stairs on Nepal shrine and got no one
Well, the tourney just got a lot more even
kek
How long's it gonna take before that Pharah switches out
Give it like one more failed push
It's easy to know which team is gonna win because the casters' predictions are always wrong
kek
where are you guys watching this
appreciate it thanks
np
I wonder if IMT will choke against coL too
S N O W B A L L
What a great gamemode 
Complexity is a shell of themselves even if they're so good on paper wtf
idk man
coL was on the verge of being a solid tier 1 team
And now they've given this performance in the WP
I'd expected them to win most matches easily
At the start of group play, I believed it was coL's tourney to lose
But now they're struggling to stay in the top 6
Yeah, and they are losing it
I don't understand mid tourney roster changes either
ahem RNG
Well RNG got manOFsnow back for today and they still lost to Liquid
True but why did they swap in the first place??
Trying out
Snow was streaming that day too so it's not like he was unavailable
RNG is safe and are moving to the top 6 no matter what
So they got Kyb to test him in a high pressure environment with little to no repurcussions for losing
For the top 6??
There are only 2 more games for IMT in the top 8 group play, if they went 0-4 they'd be fine
So wait who's going to make it into the top 6?
The 6 teams with the most points in the group stage
FaZe or coL and C7 aren't gonna make it
@balmy wolf I know that dude
Unless LG or Kungarna choke harder than IMT did today
rip
Actually, if Liquid, LG or Kungarna choke as hard as IMT the top 6 could be completely different
Just realized phase 2 is the same day as Apex lol
Harb needs a new team
lul
You really only like coL for Harb dont you
My love for Mendo and Surefour eclipses my love for winning teams
It seems like every match has Nepal...
Restricted map pool
I wanna see Lijang
Seems like it's Anubis, Nepal, Route 66, Hollywood, King's Row and Gibraltar
LIQUID
Do you guys like the new map because I know I don't
Yeah its great
what
I don't like the map design
alright
It's not my play style
From Twitch chat: "Facts of Overwatch: Seagull is popular, Surefor is good, Eliminated: Winghaven" @balmy wolf

They're mad at Wanghaven
Yep
I haven't been watching it enough but apparently he's really aggro
But it is Twitch chat
So
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Better insight than the casters lol
the casters are getting better
Ye
as the tourney rolls on
What system do you play on
CMON COL
Winghaven finally pulls it out
I play on PS4 i am I have good aim thought so it doesn't mager
What are you watching
That was a great tracer
Now let's go FAZE
If coL wins their next game they'll be above LG
Did they lose?
coL beat LG
Yes hope faze wins they have been driving the struggle bus
Id say FaZe will undoubtedly win
They'd probably have to swap the rest of their players out if they didn't
FaZe has to win this, cuz complexity has C7 tomorrow, and FaZe has IMT and Kungarna tomorrow
Yeah
They threw hard
:0
I'm a fanboy now
Cloud 7?
Citizen7
Citizen7
rekt
Bitch I was first
No I was
ah alright
I was
Who was first for you scar
FUCK
REKT
GODDAMNIT

I blame Aussie internet
LAME
LUL
I don't have my 100mb speeds yet 
LET'S GOOOOOOOO
That was still a decent attack
Let's put it this way: Drawlords came in at second place, while Polo came in second to last

This this actually happening?
rip
That's a 
Yes faze won
That was exciting
Yeah
Citizen 7 represents what happened to GM in s3.
That last mintue was intense
tbf the only reason C7 is here is because Fnatic and C9 went to OGN and NRG declined to join @dusty surge
It shows.
Yeah lol
Have they even won a map yet?
Nope
Who was meme reddit's rein
Teo
topkek
kek <--- this one
kek
kek
kek
So if C7 beats FaZe FaZe is just gonna wipe the roster clean besides like Shadowburn right
Mhm
lul
If C7 don't get this it'll be entirely on them
I dont think they really expected to win anything either
As draw said, they only got in because 3 of the other teams declined/left
I think Sypeh spazzing out on point a is a clear sign of C7's attitude lol
Happy to be there
If anything, it gets them exposure as players, potentially to be signed elsewhere if C7 disbands.
RIP 
Did they just walk off?
I think Dogman just walked off yeah
lol rip
i guess I'm not eating my sandwich @forest raven
And I'm not having any toast :<
yo what were the results from today's matches?
O shit
I gotta do that
Day Five of the Winter Premiere Group Play:
Renegades 1 - 2 Team Liquid
Kungarna 2 - 0 Immortals
Luminosity Gaming 1 - 2 compLexity Gaming
FaZe Clan 2 - 0 Citizen7 (R.I.P.)
compLexity Gaming 0 - 2 Immortals
I didn't see that match
THey didn't take a single point against Kungarna
C7 got stomped on, as expected
On Nepal temple, Grim got three with some grade A 76 work
And then literally walked off the map
And on Nepal shrine Agilities shot his grav over the stairs leading onto the point and got zero people @winter pier
IMT's performance against Kungarna was like C7 was playing
LUL they threw hard by the sound of it
It was so bad
coL actually won a game
Which was amazing
And then got stomped on by IMT
Official C9 Overwatch Montage, since this is a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRykn5UMlfk
gang
FINAL Day of Group Play for the Winter Premiere Live in ~8 minutes: https://www.twitch.tv/overwatch_nge
Renegades vs Kungarna
Luminosity Gaming vs TeamLiquid
Immortals vs FaZe Clan
Citizen7 vs compLexity Gaming
Kungarna vs FaZe Clan
I believe in Faze
They got into the top 6 after day two and now they're throwing /s
omg those wasted ults...
RNG throwing
phew
They actually made it
I didn't expect after that second to last push
Oh thank god
CarryJ
RNG is getting completely rolled this map wtf
A lot of teams get rolled through Gibraltar but hold on 3rd point
That bend is deadly
That counter shatter by Remix
So fuckin legit
Damn
That counter shatter got them third point
That defense was soooo clutch
Juv3nile yeah
The killfeed is nothing but red on blue
This is painful to watch
RNG hasn't had a single good grav combo this entire series
And RNG is just tilting now
Did they just lose motivation after that undefeated streak? Pathetic
Right as I say that
kek
ughhh
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they actually made some changes before the next phase after this
Blizzard needs to take Reinhardt out of the game entirely
Give it like 3mins
who are these casters
The coL of the casting world
Literally the shittiest casters I've ever seen
I'm not watching it lol
oh
I don't really care who wins between these two
๐ฆ
Sorry bby @wanton bronze
poor reb
Faze is done for :c
I hope so
That was absolutely pathetic
twoeasy wasn't the problem, but lets kick him anyway!



