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MLG lol
Look at how OP soldier is, kill feed full of soldier kills on both sides terrible balance
Best meta
lul
dva soldier so OP, evey match both teams, they get all the kills the balance is awful blizzard what are you doing is in silver
was it huk?
i remember when huk got super depressed and changed his SC2 name to things like "futility" and "sadguy"
i think it was huk ye
Didn't Huk say that Seagull is better than Surefour too during nrg vs c9?
Kek
Back at the OWOpen he was saying that he can't balance streaming and being a pro and now this
kek
did i miss envy
yeh happened a while ago
yeah
that was nasty
i thought his tracer in ot was heroicb
but that flash bang was clutch
any reason why they can't use skins ?
keep characters recognizable?
chyesss
When does 2nd day Vegas Invitational start?
It started already
or are the rebroadcasting games from yday ?
i didn't watch every thing yday, but the stream is on atm
clown9 :^)
Aaa hey it's Sterrr casting
they have all the games schedule with timers that aren't linked to timezones so it's easier to follow :^)
IEM final soon too
first time ster is casting?
predictions?
sym please
He casted Gamescom
how does mickie get a kill w/ ult so many times
Cause he's good
im watching both youtube
symmetra lookin like a good pick on 1st point hollywood def?
shield gen wasnt even spotted LOL
ideally hafficool should've found the generator since he's dva
lots of full 1st hold defense on hollywood
this pit disrespect
CoD has 32k viewers and Overwatch has 7k viewers on MLG site. same as youtube. I dont get it!!! lol
i guess they didnt advertise overwatch for MLG that well
OW is still not very popular esports wise
oh well they're both made by same company really
mfw beyblade in current meta
wtf was that ster
Ster is a caster and analyst
ster is high af

well also do you expect the current meta to hold any new viewers?
they're gonna see quad tank and just leave lol
We always have Koreans to save the day if you don't want to see 3-4 tank
have any korean teams tried torb+symmetra?
tfw symmetra has more picks than mercy in this tourney
oh
mercy with 0 picks ๐ฆ
:(
mercy was picke
d
pharah mercy was done
oh wait that was in winter premiere
not in this tournament
nvm
honestly mercy is just too vulnerable a target in organized teamplay
you basically have a global 'hit me' sign on you
and you have the least amount of self peel of any healer
zenyatta has respectable damage with discord orb and headshots + melee
lucio can knock you back
ana can sleep you/bio grenadee you and strafe
what's mercy gonna do?
FLY AWAYY
-head shot by s76 -
LOL seagull san
beautifully talented seagull-san
oh gosh mercy pick
widow should be a counter to this hp stacking strat but blizzard made her so bad its not even worth trying
he killed both pharah and mercy, and ana as well
symmetra torb making tank meta great again ๐
at one point surefour had 350 hp as soldier lol
oh wait ๐ค
yea
the 350 hp kept him healthy and stopped winston from chasing
lol
uh, did nrg run dva
350hp soldier, 400 hp zarya ๐ค
i didnt check
if he was playing mei, he'd be 400hp in that team comp
when is soldier getting the tank tag blizzard
if nrg was playing dva
reaper would also be 400hp lol
they should've had dva on surefour 24/7
300hp tracer ๐ค
lets just retag mei and reaper as tanks
balance suks ass!!!
tbh symmetra is just cancer in defense
if you run it well yea
there's so many maps where you can abuse her, it's ridiculous
nrg had the comp to deal with it
but they didnt execute
dva shoulda been on surefour
Seag needs a new team
so that pharah/mercy can do work
For the love of god
how do you deal with a shield gen that is behind 2 tanks and a torb turret tho
problem is that teams dont need a projectile player right now
widow if she wasnt such a bad hero
unless that projectile is a hook lol
Yeah true
even with widow lol
He's just better than everyone on his team
you can't get past the rein/dva and torb turret
He's a better Zarya than Enigma, he's a better Pharah than Clockwork
most players on nrg are better than clockwork
I think most players are better than clockwork
hey guys just lipread "last chance before we disband this team" xdddd
idk i feel like we're on the verge of seeing the most cancerous meta ever in defense
quad tank is already pretty fckin aids
i feel like nrg is gonna go through some roster changes very soon
but defense symmetra torb 2 tanks ana soldier is just so much worse lol
blizzard at this point is doing random shit lol
Also symmetra makes every 2cp pt B impossible to take if you get a shield gen
and it's super easy to get it too
just setup 6 turrets on attackers' doors, shoot 1 right click when it opens and enjoy the 50% charge to begin the game lol
im pretty sure seagull could make more money just quitting esports and becoming a streamer fulltime
most likely conundrum
but if he has the competitive drive, it'll be boring for him :p
@clear pollen He could, but the fact he's still in esports show he does want to be a pro player and has a real passion for it. It's why I respect him so much
WHY IS IT SO BLURRY
who won
not over yet, but not looking good for NRG
so nrg gets a man advantage and still manages to lose
@balmy wolf nrg lost in like 3 seconds
3 caps to 2
idk who's gonna win this series
harb 8/10 right now
expecting hafficool to drop some bombs this match
LETS GO COL LETS GO
psh
@balmy wolf prediction?
bo3
2-1 Fnatic
Don't even need emp for first point
so i just played against Kyb in qm, dunno if it's the real one but i won ๐ค
Hafficarry
lw red is nuts
nanohana and saeybe's aim is ridiculous. Like high sens but crazy precise
aim is so good that pine is asub
https://www.twitch.tv/thexhale FNATIC vs coL mlg vegas
NOOOOOO
nice @polo
? @tidal peak
you predicted
sorry I'm new here ^^"
seeing sombra played that well was pretty fun
Like based on previous performance, Fnatic seems like the obvious pick to me
but coL isnt bad enough to lose 2-0
- nrg always loses
- non-koreans always lose to koreans
- impossible to predict korean matchups
EnVyKR
i dont know what match but they must not be real koreans
EnVy beat KongDoo Uncia and Afreeca Freecs Blue at APEX
And Uncia defeated Lunatic Hai to play against EnVy
Old Rogue also beat shitloads of Korean teams
Soz FaZe beat C9
I'm telling you, stop underestimating my bois over there
They've consistently proven to be a top tier team at LAN
Remember, they almost beat Rogue 3-0
LET'S GO!!!111!!!11111!!!
@balmy wolf envy vs cloud9? faze vs fnatic?
Envy 2-0
bo5
Fnatic 3-2
envy vs fnatic bo7?
Envy 5-2
FaZe vs Fnatic is actually quite even
I'm just more biased towards Fnatic
:p
ZP's physical appearance triggers me
what did he say
idk why i just hate looking at him
is zp the guy on right now
oh no that's mickie
envy is on a 5 win streak
92% winrate
lol
according to the stats final should be cloud9 vs envyus
Gosu ranks arent really something to go
not all the time anyway
C9 dominated in beta and did well at launch too
thats where they got their mass amount of points from
@dense trench why is the flag for NA the flag of Namibia, an african country
and now they havent been doing terribly bad so it hasnt dropped significantly
๐ค Because I the text is using flag_na and that apparently does not stand for north america
Yo does anyone have a recap from yesterday at Vegas? Thanks
NA is literally only two countries
For the purposes of this event: Canada no longer exists Unless someone can find a na flag
Unless you count Mexico for some reason
For a second I thought that it was the North American Flag, meaning the continent had a flag that I never knew of
lel
I'm actually starting to do good with 76 now that I've finally gotten ahold of him
That was a lot of ults used with no return for C9
did the commentator just say 'map 1 goes to cloud9'
yieks
yeh i noticed that to
that turkey
i didnt even hear that lol
oh yay a 2/2/2
No more M E T A
oh shit
that's what you get for ignoring meta
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4 tanks or bust
Hook
Looking good for Envy
ty mlg for playing ads so long that i miss half of game 3
This is really hard, actually
normally I'd go with fnatic, but FaZe is really fucking good on LAN
STER
oh right
He was casting a bit yesterday wasn't he?
Ster + ZP pls
I'm still salty about that uber isn't here, but he's over at IEM in Korea iirc
I mean, Lunatic Hai ran the misfits comp and capped really fast
that was fun, I guess
I also heard that there was some genji/tracer action in the finals
but I don't know, I've been turned off from OW eSports recently
FLAME
I've dropped off of Pharah completely tbh :(
This is just too much health running around for me to do anything
I got more results with fucking Soldier
uncontested
And I sucked with Soldier just 2 days ago
I prefer McCree
but soldier is so much more forgiving
I'm terrible as soldier and I get good results
I like both now
I feel like I just prefer the feedback from landing a shot
Without the tank meta they are around the same level imo
Mccree can't really get picks vs tanks
yeah, I prefer him for squishies
Which is weird af because McCree is better against armor
you can literally twoshot people, during OP discord meta mccree could literally oneshot squishies
Ster not casting ๐ฆ
ZP at least
NOOO
fucking hell
its fucking huk
Oh wow
C9 got 3-0'd
I expected them to get at least 1
mirror comps
rip
7 tanks now
yeah, soldier is kind of amazing in that spot
welp
faze is gonna choke them here
the shadowgull
genjiburn ๐
yay
Oh no
as I predicted, faze will choke them
Yep, can faze make it there tho
shadderburn
Oo
its exactly like yesterday
wtf
80%
he's with rawkus
although rawkus has been charging longer than him
and I thought that ArHaN was fast
I'm so happy he's on genji
yup, he gives no fuck about the meta
he can run genji everywhere into everything
they should have retreated the moment zombs died
can't defend themselves from hooks without him
lol
he scared them with dragonblade
zoning dragonblade
fnatic lost most of their ults
and buds is dead
that sucks
rip fnatic
welp, I was wrong
Illios
FaZe wins this one
guaranteed
That Genji looked so useless even when nanoboosted. In the worldcup Genjis were at least something to look at, but now its just.. meh.
Tank meta is so boring to watch.
hafficool a dva and pharah main, interesting combo
one doesn't simply beat faze on koth
Illios was literally Reunited's best map
an FaZe rekt them there
zombs going 76 now?
Nope
I like Air Reinhardt
3 tanks
wtf
not 4
huk, use your brain
nice one haffi, lul
lol
why the fuck didn't the casters show dragonblade
smh
smh indeed
smd
that too
Did NRG play today already?
rip
Commom faE
Wow
hafficool's pharah is doing work
Faze
dont know why faze is refusing to use hitscan
Too bad faze doesn't have anyone who's good with McCree :/
soldier is fine too
put twoeasy on mccree
twoeasy and zombs are good with him
Twoeasy is very good on mccree
twoeasy is their mccre
SDB and FctFctn combo
wow im so behind
Same lol
hafficool on mccree, he's got an interesting hero pool
oh hey a 2/2/2
LEL
this is so dumb
What a throw from SDB
shadowburn is an amazing pharah, wtf is he talking?
Faze took to long to take that pharah out
I hate how he talks down shadowburn's pharah, tbh
shadowburn is a good pharah but he can get shutdown pretty bad when the enemy team has TWO hitscan
Muh 4 tanks
fnatic have soldier
pharah's really good on this map
LOL
rip rein
I meant faze, faze is refusing to adapt
he went dva
Back to 4-2
I hate illios
same
Back on Pharah
this guy
like, his pharah is amazing
They got a map
lol
haffithrow
mirror comps again
man, this game was fun for a while
wait, coolmat is off of soldier
Damn faze really turned this around after SDB stopped being so stubborn
yup, faze showing why they are the kings of the hill again
I feel like they don't wanna put twoeasy off roadhog
or he'd have gone mccree
faze being cheeky with the weird picks and then decide to go standard and win
jesus this quality is terrible
YT quality is pretty good
^^^^
jesus, fnatic is getting a taste of their own medicine
how close was nv vs c9
buds on mccree
i missed it
3-0
3-0 iirc
ah rip
LMAO
boop!
only the last map was a stomp i think
rip mccree
that makes sense
ORGASMIC BARRAGE
Ana's scope his hitscan
because c9 sucks on kingsrow
lel
It was a joke foxboy
nice one faze
i dont think so
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he meant as a hitscan dps hero
He wasnt saying she isnt a hitscan literally
yea
Which is why he said "you're not a real hitscan"
he said "You're not a real hitscan"
but she is
ana is not going to be hitscan vs a pharah that's close
shadow is a god, when given space
and they are not talking about the play
they are talking about his overall performance
IDDQD's absence is being felt in a big way.
only 5k viewers
eh, some of these guys were just gasming over the play lol
they shoulda had it on twitch
its almost 6k
yt streams arent as popular
Because MLG
MLG a shit
no way would SDB be able to have that free reign with IDDQD's mccree
mlg dumb to not put on twitch
Of course
twitch has a much more massive viewer base
they cant compete with the current CSGO thing anyways
Mlg want that ๐ฐ though
mlg gets more money
@thin elk did this match make you happy?
using their own streaming service
MLG tried putting it on their platform with CSGO before
They're not on Twitch because MLG wants to advertise their own shitty streaming service
people complained and MLG was getting really bad viewers
I was gone for half the Pharah play
so they put it back on twitch
Not because "csgo has as tourney" or someshit
vega squadron boyz!!
just let monty solo cast pls
flame needs his drawing tools, lol
flame photoshop tutorial pls
eh, shadowburn is better on pharah
haffi went pretty much uncontested most of the time because faze was so stubborn
im kinda sad that c9 is out
but i think they'll bounce back for winter premiere and the overwatch league
sdb was performing well, even when coolmatt was on hitscan
Any team playing against Envy is out
envy is not the underdog anymore but i still want them to win
i love mickie and harry too much
NV wins then, thats it
We need Misfits to crush them
Stop streaming fucking mlg
Next meta then
envy guys are so likeable
maybe exception of taimou, some people hate his attitude
Polo hates Taimou though
but the 5 other guys are very chill
Dunno, I've come to really like Taimou
and mickie is too posititve to hate
after getting used to him
taimou tilts very easily and it shows on his stream
HIs attitude definitely takes some getting used too
but he's been getting results
Yea I agree in this meta
and dedicated
NV is probably the best team in the world right now
it was iddqd who had visa problems?
oh
who had visa problems
Most definitely. We happened to get a meta where everyone in NV could play their heroes
Iddqd hasnt been on a team for weeks
decent

iddqd is on vacation now too
decent
Taimou
so its not necessary to play the meta to win but
probably the best flick aim in Overwatch
honestly, i think harry has better aim overall
if you can play the meta heroes effectively
harry has better tracking
yeah, harry and surefour are probably the best tracking dps in the game
taimou has those insane flicks but he gets some downtime
but taimou's flicks are on another level
taimou has the best roadhog ive seen though
the thing is, flicks take some flow
the hook flicks
he's gonna shit on twoeasy
you miss a few shots
Harbleu???
then flick
if faze makes it
and get into a flick rythm
tracking is more consistent
like, harryhook is a fucking aimbot
genji ๐
it came out more like fuck
harryhook's tracking is amazing to watch
rip zp
so smooth
Harry doesn't even need tac visor
he actually does less damage with it
because he cannot headshot
lul
fnatic staggering really hard
the insta one man earthshatter
fnatic has faze's number on defense here lol
jesus christ
fnatic's coordination
shadowburn needs to get a good ultimate
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if not i dont think faze can take the point
fctfctn almost has earht shatter tho
oh shit
thats probably gg for the round
yepppp
vonethil is making me gay
lmao
i wonder if fnatic is gonna take a dive comp
i mean 4 tank isnt the best set of play, if you're a god tier dps you can make dps work, it just requires being able to kill the supports lol
idk why c9 doesn't just let surefour play dps more often
because they wanna play meta
WTF
THEY DID IT
this is tense
holy shit
FAZE
pls no
holy shit
coolmatt > twoeasy
Wow...
this was so fucking intense
volskaya, lul
2cp
tiebreaker confirmed

is this best out of 5?
tiebreaker is koth, it may give faze the win
bo5
oh, volsk and gibralter
next matches are faze sided
map pool may potentially have fucked fnatic out of a win if faze wins
THANKS BLIZZARD
no
but volsk is more faze sided on paper
dunno how this is gonna play out though
it'll probably be a draw
then faze will win the tiebreaker
I'm prepared for neither of them to know what the fuck to do
Got excited when I saw Junkrat for a few seconds
oh rip its 2 CP
ah, I hate this gamemode
well then
i think they get
same thing happened on anubis there
6.5 mins in the itmebank now right
faze can still do it
I looked away for like 30 seconds what
El o el
faster ult charges made 2cp more competitive
and viable maps
but now unless you fail to execute with your ult advantage
its basically gg if you can clean wipe a team on point B
WOOOOOOOO
gg
i hate 2cp ๐
lmfao
THIS MODE SUUUUCKS
faze fucked it up
zombs shoulda done graviton
into the nanoblade
they got too hyphy
huk is dying
Man those were some of the hardest snowballs I've seen
GODOWBURN
HOLY SHIT
but man, this game was intense
2cp can be fun when everyone attacks super fast
2cp is so lame
cancer gamemod though
2nd point is the worst thing in thi stank meta
Fuck it, we're calling it the stank meta
the stall doth not giveth but doth taketh away
Why shadow why
yeah, sdb should have gone dva
Y u dash in the middle of them
reminds me of myself
probably to charge his ut
the fight was lost
so they wanted the blade
faze is taking the point next push
oh, lul, that quad?
that was only their terrible ult usage
welp, I was wrong
Good ult baiting
this may have been a junk rush
That was actually pretty damned good
"maybe it will go the distance"
holy shit
lmfao
welp, rip faze
Custa is a god with sleep darts
badluckSDB
suicide lul
welp now they secured the possibility of a draw
it's their ONLY chance
FFS FAZE DO IT
rekt
wow
Is this why no one likes Volskaya
this is why no one likes 2cp
I like 2cp ;-;
they definitely should have dropped a map ban here
you are alone then
Anubis is the best map ;-;
I like Anubis
@tawdry wasp blizzard is forcing fixed map pools, you forgot=
oh
well blizz just took the best match in the tournament and fucked it
Not even Blizzo likes this map
this is like tennis where you root for the team that's down so you get to see more play
lmao
he killed both supports
thats ALL you have to do in the tank meta
kill the supports
and tanks drop
if this is a draw rip fnatic
6 ults for faze lul
RIP buds again
slobberknocker?
yup, draw confirmed
how did faze lose with all of those ults
Idk
let's go for the dr4aw
slobberknockers is how he calls these tank teamfights
mei + 2cp = draw
2cp also has high amount of draws
gg fnatic
They used 5 ults
you need a clean wipe for this
no way they'll take it
fanfiction
it's mostly his wall usage
his rightclick aim is okay
but his wall usage is amazing
That's what I was talking about though
Lol
He was like one meter away from killing his teammate
gravi-blizz
I love how shadowburn 1v1s haffi's pharah
also fuck 2cp
that roadhog chargin
hog provides delicious ult charge
what happens if bo5 comes out as 2-2-1 ?
tiebreaker on koth, usually
yeah, I agree with huk, faze's composure was something else
normally they are much more rash and aggressive
blizzard picks volskaya like trolololololololololl
ehhh i gotta go do stuff now ๐ฆ
tbh it pisses me off how everyone acts like shadowburn is a one-trick pony
he has a really large hero pool, actually
I mean, he's no TviQ, but it is pretty wide
it's just that his genji is so damn good
he's no seagull
his pool is the same size as seagull's, actually
he plays the same heroes
pharah, genji, mei, hanzo, zarya and dva
Shadowburn = better Seagull??
HES NO SEAGULL
no, worse seagull on a better team
seagull better than shadowburn

eh, seagull's pharah > sdb, sdb genji >>>>> segulls genji, sdb mei ~ seagulls mei, seagulls hanzo > sdbs hanzo, seagulls zarya~sdb's zarya, sdb's dva > seagulls dva. SDB McCree + Tracer > Seagull's
so overall, shadowburn is better, actually
Shadowburn plays Zarya?
Nepal for tiebreaker
the youtube chat

I'd say Seagull's Zarya is better
So he basically is better seagull then lol
lol, if faze wins gibraltar (which they will), then the win
I mean, I've barely seen SDB's zarya, so that can't be judged as well
the youtube shat needs some chemotherapy
He's a very good Zarya
i doubt seagull would be bad on dva
decent
I mean, yeah, shadowburn is like a better seagull
but sdb also has a competent team that can actually support him
Oh god I have to memorize goddamn shakespeare ๐ก ๐ซ
seagull though... lol
@toxic yacht