#esports-discussion | Overwatch | Page 717

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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so im happy she's a viable tank option

devout topaz Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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"the best dps players in the world... playing tanks"

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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i instantly bought the nutcracker skin when i saw it

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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Hey man, shadowburn won for his team with genji

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xD

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oh hell yea

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i love zen

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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i wish i could spam pharah

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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he's my favourite support

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he has really good damage output

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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throwing golden nuts at my enemies

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lol

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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disgustingly underrated damage output actually

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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i guess i'll just spam mei in defense tho, she's so much fun

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:08 AM

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people dont expect the headshots

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lol

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mei is decent in defense

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:09 AM

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yeah you can really fuck up a dva/roadhog

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:09 AM

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honestly, im not like most people

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:09 AM

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since their critboxes are really big

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:09 AM

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i dont care what people pick in solo queue

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as long as they're successful with it

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and make it work

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and if they DONT make it work

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they switch to something that will be useful to the team

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like if we're running 1 heal and a symmetra

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and the symmetra is ass

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i hope they swap to a 2nd healer

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ya feel me?

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:09 AM

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i usually only play zen in a typical 2/2/2 lineup

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:09 AM

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symmetra is so stupid

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i had soooo many games where i was 50+% ult charge

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:09 AM

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idk, its too early to tell

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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before even seeing the enemy team

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zaryalol

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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how's the shield aspect of the ult

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i havent played with sym since the changes

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been busy

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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idk, atleast i'm like 99% sure

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she'll be permapicked on 2cp point B

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and she'll make it sooooo much harder to take it

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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her turrets charge faster

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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the shield is great, effectively cancels roadhog's oneshot

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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apparently

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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yeah

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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like even when you kill them

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she can replace them faster

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:10 AM

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the turrets charge really fast

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like wat i've been doing

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is just rush enemy door

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setup 6 turrets somewhere near that

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and enjoy the free 50% ult charge to start the game

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:11 AM

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sometimes i've been able to leash a mercy flying the sky

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that 8m range is ridiculous

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:11 AM

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You know, i actually dont like playing soldier

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:11 AM

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can even be lucky and kill a squishy if it focus fires him and they don't react fast enough

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:11 AM

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there's alot of pressure on you

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especially if the enemy team picks mercy

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its basically your job to kill her

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or else you'll lose the teamfight

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:11 AM

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Has the game started?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:11 AM

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cause she'll res everyone you just killed

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:11 AM

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i mean once you get the beam charged up, you can do some serious work

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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yeah

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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i like playing dva more cause

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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I think symmetra is 1v1 god now

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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C9 stomping?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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i only have 1 job on dva

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-> get in soldier's face

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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i've gotten a nanoboost once, and i just mircowaved em all

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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@balmy wolf game hasn't started yet

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oh right

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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i don't think there's any hero that can 1v1 symmetra, maybe besides mei

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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someone said yeah :c

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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C9 has probably one of the best tank players in the world

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in kyky

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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mei and mcree are the only things you gotta worry about

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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and even for mei, i think a well timed E from symmetra just wins her the 1v1

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:12 AM

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kyky is such a good dva

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anyway

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:13 AM

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Those mccree clips make me cri eritime

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:13 AM

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im looking forward to seeing some surefour/mendo carry

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:13 AM

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yeah rachel

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:13 AM

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i wanna see one of them play mccree/genji but they prolly won't

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:14 AM

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i think

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we'll either see mendo's genji

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or surefour's mccree

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he picks it sometimes in clutch situations

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oh right, recently surefour picked tracer

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:14 AM

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both play a good mccree

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:14 AM

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and got 2 kills in a 1v4

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yeah, both of them play a good mccree

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:14 AM

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although i'd rate surefour as a better mccree

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:14 AM

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They both play the same heroes

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:14 AM

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but mendo plays a better genji than surefour imo

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:14 AM

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for sure

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four sure

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:15 AM

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and surefour plays a better mccree

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:15 AM

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but who's the better tracer

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:15 AM

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but they're both pretty much on the same level

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I actually dont know

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and i watch them play alot

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:15 AM

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and then who's the better soldier

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:15 AM

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both on stream nad in tournies

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surefour's better soldier

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:15 AM

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both have insane tracking

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:15 AM

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i think

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his tracking is pretty lit

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mendo has good tracking too but i think he carries harder on genji

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:16 AM

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it honestly blows my mind how accurate they are

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:16 AM

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he's like an NA shadowburn

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yeah, you'd think that once you're in diamond

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you might be comparable

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to one of these guys

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then you watch them and go

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:16 AM

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technically shadowburn is gonna be NA soon

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:16 AM

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the skill gap is just

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fucking night and day honestly

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:16 AM

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wut @clear pollen

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:16 AM

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faze is moving to NA soon

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team house and everything

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:17 AM

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Oh really?

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:17 AM

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they haven't decided on a location yet, but its happening

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:17 AM

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Well there goes the NA #2 spot

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:17 AM

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im guessing they're trying to get all the visas worked out

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i'd imagine its hard to get a visa for shadowburn

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zombs and forsaken are already in NA i think

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:18 AM

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They're all in NA right now

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:19 AM

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well i mean current resident status

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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/FaZe_Clan

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oh well apparently 3 of them are NA, so they only have to move 3 people

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:19 AM

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you know

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if you look up c9

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it says mendo is from europe

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but he has a canadian english accent

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like north american

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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He is from Europe

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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is he actually?

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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swedish

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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Yes

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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has he just spent a long time in NA?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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He taught himself english through the internet

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Probably picked up the accent

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by immitating them

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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LOL MENDO

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i love this guy

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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MENDO

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:20 AM

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He's been in NA for like

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A month or so

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maybe a bit more

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:21 AM

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lmfao

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when mendo is better in the interview

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than the interviewer

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seagull is huge

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LUL

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holy shit the memes from this interview o.o

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:21 AM

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BLESS YOU CHILD

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Fuck i love Mendo

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:22 AM

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Er random question

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why is seagull so popular?

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i know he's a good genji but

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:22 AM

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Great streamer

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:23 AM

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what did he play before OW

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or was it only OW that he played

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?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:23 AM

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TF2

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:23 AM

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He got in early

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:23 AM

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ah i see

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:23 AM

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One of the first to stram OW

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:23 AM

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gotcha that makes sense

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:23 AM

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"bless mendo"

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i member when seagull played tf2 and said he was gonna try to stream overwatch if anyone cared

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:24 AM

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He is just a really good streamer

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and he's a good player

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:24 AM

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he originally thought nobody was gonna watch

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:24 AM

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ah

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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little did he know

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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i personally like both surefour and mendo's streams

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they made OW fun for me to watch

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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Yeah, Seag's personality is very accommodating

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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hella entertaining guys

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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Mendo and Surefour are just total memers

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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personally i was hooked by seagull's personality and gameplay

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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He's just very informative aswell

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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Which is why I love them

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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Not toxic at all

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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i honestly never had a team where I liked every single player on that team

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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really nice guy

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:25 AM

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c9 is good at recruiting likeable people lol

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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While I don't know the personality's of Ryb and Roolf, I do like everyone else on c9

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Debitt and Reaver were 👎

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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i think its safe to say from the streams that new c9 has gelled very well

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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I dont think they were toxic really

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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yea i think there was just a clash of personalities on the roster at that time

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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Reaver was terrible

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Debett was great imo

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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I don't think Reaver and Debitt were toxic

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Just like

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Dude bro

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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i wasn't following overwatch until the world cup

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:26 AM

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debett was kinda dickish on stream tho

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like to randos in ranked

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:27 AM

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ooo

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C9 has a coach now

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Finally

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:27 AM

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do they?

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:27 AM

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does NRG have a coach?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:27 AM

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I feel like its hard to get a coach for overwatch

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because of how new the game is

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:27 AM

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THEY DO @balmy wolf

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FINALLY

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:28 AM

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but they could get a life coach or an analyst who's watching vods for em

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:28 AM

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👏🏻

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:28 AM

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and just pulling up stats for them

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:28 AM

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i mean all you really need a clear mind who is looking at the big picture

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as a player its easy to tunnel vision

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:28 AM

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yea

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tbh i think if c9's gonna lose

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itll be on a 2CP map or KOTH

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they're pretty good at payload maps

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:29 AM

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I believe Mendo is better than Surefour

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fite me

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:29 AM

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c9 has a lot of individual skill, they just needed a coach to really pool it into strong team cohesion

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:29 AM

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@clear pollen players have to be coachable too

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like willing to listen to and adjust to play according to their coach

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:29 AM

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Wait

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:29 AM

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while also being able to voice their opinions too

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:29 AM

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Hmm

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:29 AM

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its gotta be a dynamic environment

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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Rachel, Monte, HuK and Flame

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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the most effective coaching is when you have reliable out of game coaching that can help influence your team leaders

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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Is ster casting?!

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STER?!

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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zp is casting

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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God I hope so

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LUL

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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and someone else

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i think?

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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ZP and DoA

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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zp and doa maybe?

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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`pls

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ster

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pls

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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oh

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wtf

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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FUCK

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NOOO

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NOOOOOOOOO

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WHO THE HELL IS MR PUCKETT

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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mr x and who?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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wasnt he the host?

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LOL

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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Used to be a big caster for Halo

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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two unknowns i guess

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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ugh fuck

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:30 AM

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When Halo was esports

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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Why not ZP and Ster?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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i wont judge them until i see how they coach

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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Why not Uber?

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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Puckett unknown 🤔

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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Why not uber?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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WHAT

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SYM TORB HOLYY

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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SYMM AND TORB

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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sym torb

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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YES

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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AND HANZO

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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BRO

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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seagull on hanzo

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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HOLY SHIT I LOVE THESE GUYS

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:31 AM

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Mr. X isnt an unkown

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But he isnt really that good

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Puckett though

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no idea

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:32 AM

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torb snipped

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lolwat

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:32 AM

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GOD BLESS C9 AND NRG

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:32 AM

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sniped wows

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:32 AM

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here we go

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:32 AM

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LMFAO

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the comp is workingg

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:32 AM

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sym choose the shield generator

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:32 AM

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ADAM FRAGGIN OUT

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:33 AM

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yo adam is basically a dps at the moment

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:33 AM

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KyKy

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like i said

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such a good dva

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almost always gets value out of the dva self destruct

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:34 AM

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He's a better Zarya

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:34 AM

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zarya + hanzo wombo

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:34 AM

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he's been spamming a lot of dva in ranked

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:34 AM

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One of the best in the game imo

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:34 AM

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if nrg gets that

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easy 1st point

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or earth shatter into hanzo ult

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:34 AM

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6 ults

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vs 1

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this first point

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is gone

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100%

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Unless

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:34 AM

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EATEN

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graviton

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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HE DID IT

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EATEN

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WOOOO

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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fucking kyky

tidal peak Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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rekt

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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monster

gritty crow Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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NICE

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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350 hp torbjorn

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full HOLD

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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JESUS

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FUCKING

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CHRIST

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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nastyyy

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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THEY HELD WITH TORBJORN AND SYMMETRA

rugged cairn Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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nrg lol XDDDDDD

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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WOOOOOOO

gritty crow Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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That felt dirty

limber pine Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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double barrier new meta

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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this is gonna

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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+150 hp on every hero is not cancer at all 😃

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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make NRG into even more of a meme than before

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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that feeling when nrg can't even do the dragonstrike combo

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:35 AM

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i mean

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they could've done earth shatter into dragon strike

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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I feel bad

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For NRG

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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but they opted into the zarya ult into it

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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seagull is basically a hanzo main

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in this game

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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he did good

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he got the picks

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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what

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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but the rest of NRG wasnt able to

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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seagull on torb

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lol

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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capitalize on the picks

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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why didnt seagull go pharah

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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seagull is basically playing with a diamond team

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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did he really even get that many picks?

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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seagull throw

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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He got like 3

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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none of them could ever take advantage of seagull's kills

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:36 AM

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idk clockwork was pretty decent

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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Seagull trying to be Mendo

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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yeah right he got heaps of kills at the start

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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GIGALUL

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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i think they just choke on LAN

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they're not good clutch players

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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i forgot clockwork was on nrg LOL

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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but c9 has so many clutch players

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surefour/mendo/kyky are all clutch players

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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Its sad to see him transfer from TF2 to OW

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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don't forget adam

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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He was a god in TF2

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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clockwork or seagull?

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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adam did a lot too

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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adam's consistent yeah

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im just saying in general

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c9 has 3 people

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that can step up to the plate

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to carry them

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:37 AM

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Clockwork

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:38 AM

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wasn't he like the actual best scout

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:38 AM

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you'd think nrg would do well

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:38 AM

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275 zen

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:38 AM

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since they're the tf2 dream team

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:38 AM

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tbh I'm beginning to root for NRG just because of the c9 discord 🤔

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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why?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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i think surefour should've stuck to tracer

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tracer is so good at killing zen

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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@jagged kernel Yep

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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"LUL NRG. NRG is trash." etc. etc.

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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Best scout in the game

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well

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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ROOLF

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WHATTT

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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they are though :p

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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Have some good sportsmanship tho

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:39 AM

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Meh

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Its the C9 discord

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idk what you expected

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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i feel like this is a pretty neutral chat

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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c9 fans :/

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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Cheering for c9 and not relentless shitting on NRG

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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welp

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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I mean, I'm obviously rooting for C9

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But I like NRG

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So im not just saying they're shit over and over

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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yeah

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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dude

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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I think c9 played well

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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i need a gif of that golf clap

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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I'm cheering for c9 as well

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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I dont think NRG played terribly

gritty crow Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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I don't care for either of them tbh

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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c9 just played much better than NRG

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:40 AM

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pri much

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:41 AM

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like

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KyKy eating the zarya ult

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basically won them map 1

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:41 AM

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they just didn't make any plays

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:41 AM

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and map 2 was roolF with the clutch sleeps

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yeah, tbf they probably have no experience vs torb symmetra

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 2:41 AM

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i thought they would have takwn the point after they got all those kills near the bginning though

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:42 AM

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yeah definitely

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hanzo had 2 good picks

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they should've tried forcing

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but i think mendo landed good poke

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so they pussied out

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but they picked off mendo first...

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yeah idk i have no excuses for them

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im trying to think of a good reason but nothing's coming xD

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:43 AM

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wait wut

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clock is nrg's star dps?

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uuh

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i give that title to seagull

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:43 AM

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with the way the meta is going, clockwork is the only one using dps only

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seagull flexes a bit

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genji is not doing too good in this meta

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:45 AM

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http://i.imgur.com/t4DkENQ.gif @forest raven

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:45 AM

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roadDOG

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:45 AM

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Excellent reaction gif @balmy wolf 👏

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:45 AM

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Saved it already

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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this meta is even tankier than the last one goddam

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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soldier incoming

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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SEAG

gritty crow Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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Seagull is flying

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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Oh shit

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Seagull Pharah

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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LETS GO SUREFOUR

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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Yusss

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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good to see pharah doin well here tho

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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Seagull's pharah is god

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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And there's the top 5 76 on c9

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:46 AM

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surefour got him

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:47 AM

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Both their DPS players are easily top 10 76

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Rocket Barrage + Grav?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:47 AM

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HarryHook/Mendo/Surefour

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:47 AM

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Mmmmm

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Mmmmm

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:47 AM

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Perhaps going Pharah was a mistake for Seagull, since he basically forced out the best Soldier 76 in the game

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:48 AM

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Whoa whoa

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A little too far there

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:48 AM

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I mean

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:48 AM

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surely they were going to use it anyway since soldier is so top tier in the meta

stark thicket Dec 17, 2016, 2:48 AM

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Ryb tho missed everything that fight but they won

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:48 AM

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mendo/surefour/harryhook are all contenders for best s76 in the world

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:48 AM

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No way

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Harry is #1 no doubt

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Have you seen his tracking?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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well i mean harry had to play against better competition

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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Dude doesnt even need Tac Visor

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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so yeah he has more going for him

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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I guess at a certain level it's a matter of opinion. They are all beasts

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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something i'd love for pharah

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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saw that tracking? xD

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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I just like Surefor

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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is the ability to slam on the ground

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like in her highlight intro

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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That visor lol

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:49 AM

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like if she's flying, crouching would make her slam on the ground

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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he got ana with the visor

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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Nanovisor 🤔

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c9 have had shit ults

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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i noticed nrg is not going 100% meta

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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i mean

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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But they're just better than NRG

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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like seagull goes non-meta heroes

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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So it doesn't matter

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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it was effective because

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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nrg don't go 100% meta because the meta heroes aren't their forte

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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it forced NRG to back away

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and then surefour still got ana with the ult

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so it had value

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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Enigma Tracer pogchimp

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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sometimes you cant always get the 3/4k

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but if you can get a crucial pick

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:50 AM

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tviq's got some insane tracking as well

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if you seen his soldier

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:51 AM

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and then you're good without the ult, you'll be able to carry

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and surefour did just that lol

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:51 AM

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Weird, I figured Clockwork would be the one to flex

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:51 AM

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yea

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same i thought clockwork would tracer

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:51 AM

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Enigma's Tracer though

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Is 👌🏻

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:51 AM

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True

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:51 AM

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clockwork is better on hitscan like soldier/mccree

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:51 AM

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is he?

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Idk i havent followed him much

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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that's what he did in his previous team

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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i haven't seen enigma tracer in so long

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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Remember that game where he solo carried in a Monthly Melee a few months ago

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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I haven't followed him in OW much, but he was the best TF2 scout

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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That game was so fucking good

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Enigma fucking carried

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so fucking hard

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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Gods was the tracer until enigma turned out to be the better tracer

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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Never seen a harder carry

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:52 AM

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Gods went from dps to flex

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cuz of enigma's tracer

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:53 AM

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Ah that was a weird mistake by kyky

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coulda saved the ult for the graviton bomb combo

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but i think its okay for c9 right now anyway

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:53 AM

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NA ult from mendo right there

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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lol yep

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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yea that was awkward

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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nrg goes meta and starts winning 🤔

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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then again this is like c9's curse for KOTH

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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Tracer's not meta

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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tracer's still good in koth

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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Not for 3-2-1 or 4-2

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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shatter pulse bomb

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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yo enigma is carrying hard

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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As always tbh

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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i'd argue that tracer is pretty meta on koth

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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yea enigma's doing surprisingly well

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:54 AM

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she gets so much value

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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fuck they shoulda put surefour on tracer

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to deal with enigma

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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how the hell nrg win this?

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jesus

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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its a bo5 koth map

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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Enigma

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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and c9 sucks at koth

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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Enigma on Tracer and Seag on Zarya

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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its enigma

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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enigma went ham @trim pelicanediaz#5606

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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It's about the maps IMHO. That part of Ilios is really tracer friendly

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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yeah

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:55 AM

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oh shit

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surefour's mccree

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LETS GO

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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someone should've switched to mccree way earlier

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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well is shit for tracer tho

gritty crow Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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does everyone on c9 have the some keyboard

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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but they really wanted to play quad tank for some reason

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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McCree to deal with Engima

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Lets go boys

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@gritty crow Likely one of their sponsers

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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HEADSHOT ON TRACER

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RIGHT AT THE END OF THE BLINK

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holy shit

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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surefour fucking hacks

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:56 AM

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THAT SHIT

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SO DIRTY

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:57 AM

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world's finest mccree

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 2:57 AM

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nrg bringin out the 4 tanks

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:57 AM

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oh he had someone in LoS there but he didnt use it fast enough

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55% ult charge already wtf

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surefour pls

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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It's funny how the meta is tank heavy, and yet you don't see much Reaper. This meta really needs balancing

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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Because D.Va

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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yep

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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Reaper is useless vs D.Va

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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Reaper has a hard time against dva and

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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yep

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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nanoboost doesnt give speed up anymore

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i'd rather nano gives speed

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but they nerf bio grenade

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 2:58 AM

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aand the game devolved into 4 tanks

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 2:59 AM

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Her bio nade is the problem but Blizz dont realise

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 2:59 AM

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I'm sure they do

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 2:59 AM

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Tbh

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if they don't see the problem after these tournament

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they're realyl stupid

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and i still have some faith in them so i'll hope they do :^)

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 3:00 AM

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They've proven they know what they are doing imho

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:00 AM

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Well this meta exists

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So they havent imo

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:00 AM

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Good Graviton

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:00 AM

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yeah it exists for 1 patch

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 3:00 AM

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Yeah but we've had even more cancerous metas that were fixed by blizz

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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Have we?

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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so we still have to wait lol

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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Outside of Hero Stacking I cant think of any

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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Actually

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I'm happy ults take longer to charge

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you actually have to land damage

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to be relevant

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you cant just afk, get ult

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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Imo they need to buff dps ults now tho lol

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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Im not

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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and pop off

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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One of the problems that created this meta

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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ehh

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that might be power creep

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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i'd say soldier ult is in a good place

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 AM

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cuz indirectly, the ult charge nerf was a buff to tanks

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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enigma on tracer again

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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They never should have changed ult charges

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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tanks innate kits are way better than most dps

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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i feel like zarya, lucio, and ana are the real causes of this meta

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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might need surefour on mccree/tracer again

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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zarya isn't even that strong now

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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Its Ana

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And the Ult charge nerf

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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she's decent but she's not broken

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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That created this monstrosity

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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she's still insanely strong lol

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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Ana/Dva are

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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It's ana and Dva too to an extent

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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yeah she's still really strong, but she's not broken anymore tho

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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lucio is indispensable because of speed boost

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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DVA on her own isnt that bad

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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I dont think D.Va needed more health at all

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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i still think if ana's grenade is nerfed, the tank meta would disappear

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:02 AM

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buffing DVA made sense because she was never picked

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yeah\

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thats the core problem

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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yeah the health buff was really extra

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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I don't think a hero being really strong is a problem tho lol

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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ana's grenade

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

#

Take Heal Boost and Debuff to 50%

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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the ult charge nerf made tanks stronger

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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See what happens

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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like you have to be able to outheal dps damage which ana can do right now

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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That should help immensly

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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because tanks dont really need ults to be super effective

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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yeah but they buffed dva twice in a single patch

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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but if she can't outheal it then dps would come back

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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and agreed @pearl cedar

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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throw 6 ults

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cant capture

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:03 AM

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tanks are so much stronger than dps in their basic kits

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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They overbuffed D.Va and nerfed her main counter

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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jesus

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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in the same patch

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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AND their ults are extremely strong

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for the most part

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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yea

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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Just like the patch awhile ago where they overbuffed mccree and nerfed 76 in the same patch

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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they also fixed how zarya's beam interacts with armor

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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so basically ana + the ult charge nerf made tanks stronger

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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they need to buff dps charge rate imo

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a bit

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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so it doesn't instantly melt dva

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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i dont think they need to buff charge rates, but they should nerf a few things

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for example road hog hook

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should be on a 9 or 10 second cooldown

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instead of 6 seconds

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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Would be too long imo

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but something i'd love to see

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:04 AM

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ana's grenade shouldnt make targets unhealable for 6 seconds lol

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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is hog being punished for missing his hook

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atm you just go fishing

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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exactly and you get teams more likely to pick dps

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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throw hooks over and over blindly until you get a pick

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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imo, they should revert the ult charge change and nerf bio nade heal boost and debuff to 50%

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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2-0'd

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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If they did something to punish missed hooks it would offer more windows to counter that

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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Because right now

onyx shore Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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gg

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:05 AM

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Its just ult stacking

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and hooks

silk linden Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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So, NRG. They aren't bad, but they aren't good. I guess that's their place

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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Like something i was thinking would be to make hook maybe 10 sec base cd

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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No

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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and give 50% cd refund when he lands a hook

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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Hook doesnt need that

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Hook just needs to be not broken

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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it would reward good players who land hooks

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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i want to see a c9 vs envy on lan so bad

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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I'm hoping to see a c9 vs Nv final

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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new c9 vs envy w/ mickie

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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and promote good mechanics

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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that'd be a sick match

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but i think envy has teh better tank players

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:06 AM

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Fix the hitbox and fix the physics

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Thats how hook should be changed

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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yeah that too lol

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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It doesnt need CD changes

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Or anything else stupid

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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its a really forgiving spell

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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i dont have a problem with the cd, i just dont wanna be hooked through multiple dimensions

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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is it 2 losses in groups out?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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over forgiving

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yeah

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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The smaller hitbox means its harder to hit hooks

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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basically 2 losses

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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maybe make the hook a real skillshot

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ie make the hitbox of the hook actually the size of the hook

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:07 AM

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And when you hit a hook, you already outplayed the target by hooking them

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so you shouldnt rely on a wonky physics engine for where they're gonna end up

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They should end up in front of you

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within melee range

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:08 AM

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LUL mendo

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:08 AM

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not just outside of it

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so it doesnt hit

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inside melee range

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in front of roadhog

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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well

#

you say you outplayed the target and i disagree

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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Okay

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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wait a second, i had a great screenshot that happened when moonmoon's stream crashed for me at the perfect time

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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you know, i think mendo was being sarcastic

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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https://gyazo.com/79943f44f8be807cec83990757e6f9ca

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here you go

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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yeah, hook is a low-risk, high-reward mechanic

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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mendo & flame oh gosh

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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LUL MONTE

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savage

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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can you send links here ? idk if it was sent

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:09 AM

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savage in league

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savage in ow

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oh lets watch this

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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Yes you can

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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wasnt huk criticized for being too negative ?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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Yeah

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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monte does it, all cool

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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MONTE u can't just say that

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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@balmy wolf then just look at that

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https://gyazo.com/79943f44f8be807cec83990757e6f9ca

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how was the guy being hooked outplayed

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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Dude

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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he outplayed the hook, not the other way around

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:10 AM

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Did you even read what I said

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:11 AM

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he baited the cd, retreated behind the wall and shit

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still got hooked

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You said

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"And when you hit a hook, you already outplayed the target by hooking them
so you shouldnt rely on a wonky physics engine for where they're gonna end up"

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:11 AM

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Make the hitbox actually the size of the hook model, not 76 or someshit. The smaller hitbox makes hoots harder to hit.

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So

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:11 AM

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you know whats funny

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:11 AM

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When you hit a hook you already outplayed them by hitting it

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:11 AM

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nrg is still in the background gathering their stuff

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and these guys are up here shitting on nrg lol

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:11 AM

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can you watch vods on mlg?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM

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So you shouldnt rely on a wonky physics engine on where they're going to end up

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM

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well in this case

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM

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Im not talking about the hook now dude

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM

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he hit a hook he had no business hitting

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM

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maybe they should buff non-tanks' movement speed

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM

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Incase you're retarded and couldnt tell

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:12 AM

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Oh you're saying once it's reworked

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Then yeah i agree, i thought you were talking about the current hook being about outplaying people zaryalol

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:13 AM

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Literally

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just read

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:14 AM

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it's kinda hard to follow shit when there's multiple people talking about multiple stuff :^)

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:14 AM

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Not really

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Its not twitch chat

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:14 AM

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w/e nvm

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:14 AM

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Its going very slow

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:14 AM

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Guess you're just a dick, forget it

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:14 AM

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will there be vods ?

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i missed the previous games

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:15 AM

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No idea

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I dont use mlg

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:16 AM

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LOL

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:16 AM

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Huk might be overly negative now

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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maybe r/overwatchvods

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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still a dumb idea not putting on twitch

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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idk if there's such a sub

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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@balmy wolf envy vs complexity prediction?

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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there are usually youtubers who upload these vods

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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Envy

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2-1

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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nv easy 2-0

jagged kernel Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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i love how their trailer talks about the best dps in the world, so cringe

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:17 AM

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well wait

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they havent practiced

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so maybe coL has an edge there

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:18 AM

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it's over i guess ?

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:18 AM

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eh AF blue tried being gimmicky at OGN and they lost pretty hard

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CoL is gonna try their usual gimmick and its not gonna work against NV

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:18 AM

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envy hasnt practiced vs NA teams in a loong time and taimou is getting here late

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:19 AM

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i think at this point we should just expect tork to do this sombra thing and NV is gonna expect it too

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:19 AM

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Envy isnt playing today

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So it doesnt matter

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:19 AM

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tommorrow 10:30

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AM

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:19 AM

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He said like

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:19 AM

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but who knows, nv's last minute replacement worked for them vs koreans

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:19 AM

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An hour or two ago

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that his flight was delayed by 4 hours

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in chat

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:20 AM

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CLG is in this tournament?

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Who did they replace?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:20 AM

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wut

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:20 AM

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iunno the flashback looked like clg

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or was that c9

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:20 AM

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classic taimou

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https://twitter.com/EnVy_Taimou/status/809929701607305216

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now maybe its too subtle, but i think taimou is mad that his flight got delayed

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:21 AM

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CLG was announced

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They have a team now

pearl cedar Dec 17, 2016, 3:21 AM

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yeah just maybe...

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hopefully we see CLG slowly build a name for themselves

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but idk any of the players outside misospoon

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i thought curryshot would be on the team

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cause he's streaming under clg

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:22 AM

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Well from miso's stream i know they've been scrimming a lot

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:22 AM

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dont think curryshot is good enough

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:22 AM

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so i think CLG is trying to be serious

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:22 AM

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I've heard of Miso but dont know who he is

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I know who Waffle is though

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:22 AM

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seems more like a streamer than a pro player

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carnage streams under the complexity name too but he's not playing for them

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:23 AM

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Yeah but they already have a team

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It makes sense to make the assumption Curry would be on CLG when they got a team

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Like, Ster is streaming under LG

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But he isnt on LG

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and doesnt plan on going pro

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:23 AM

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curry doesnt seem like pro player material, more like a personality

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:24 AM

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Moonmoon's had offers from teams, no?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:24 AM

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No idea

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:24 AM

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moonmoon will never go pro

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:24 AM

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moon is insanely popular, some teams might get him just for exposure even if they dont win

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:24 AM

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atleast that's what he said

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:24 AM

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Hell no would he go pro

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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but of course he wouldnt go pro since he's having a more relaxing time streaming

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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THe dude makes so much fucking money from strams

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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All I know is he go an invite to be one of USA's picks for the WC

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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And he doesn't have the same passion for esports like Seag does

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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beign a pro gamer is a lot of work, way moer than streaming

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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yeah and he can goof around instead of being super serious

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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He definitely wont go pro

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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streaming is a TON of work too

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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For at least 2 more years

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:25 AM

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especially for someone like moonmoon

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:26 AM

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Does moonmoon play anything other than OW on stream?

halcyon nymph Dec 17, 2016, 3:26 AM

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i don't think he ever did

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:26 AM

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if you have the personality for streaming, i see no reason to go pro considering the amount of effort you need to succeed

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:26 AM

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I saw him play Dwarf Fortress

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And eh

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Some other game

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i cant remember the name of

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But mostly OW

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:26 AM

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I wonder what would happen to his fanbase if he began to consistently stream games that wasn't OW

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:26 AM

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streaming = 8 hours of goofing around vs pro = 8 hours of serious scrims

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:26 AM

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He also has his mother to take care of

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Thats the main reason why he wont go pro

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Or go to any Cons

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:27 AM

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ic

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:27 AM

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summit was initially going to go pro since he was already "semi-pro" but streaming worked way better for him so he stuck with it

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:27 AM

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I thought he did play pro cs

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for a little while

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:28 AM

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he played for invite teams, never any successful ones tho

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:28 AM

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I like how MGA is still in the channel description

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:28 AM

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Yeah its not updated frequently

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because everyone forgets

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lel

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:29 AM

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stopped playing at a high level because it was way too stressful

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:29 AM

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Thats why kyb stopped too

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:c

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I miss kyb

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:29 AM

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who is kyb

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:29 AM

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yea kyb started out as a MM star

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decided to go pro to try it out but became way too time consuming when it involved traveling and lans

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:30 AM

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draw pls

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 3:30 AM

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what

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:31 AM

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also misfits 0-3'd yikes

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cant wait for the meta report tho

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more tank meta than the last

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that's hilarious

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:33 AM

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Idk about new misfits

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i think i liked the old one better

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but we'll see

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 3:33 AM

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they really didnt need to change anything but i guess that full swedish lineup might be something to develop for the future

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 3:56 AM

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@forest raven My golf clap gif was stolen and put on mendo's discord

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:[

clear pollen Dec 17, 2016, 3:57 AM

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i mean yeah it was 3-0 lunatic hai, but misfits played really well for a team that played together for 5ish days

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give misfits time, i think they'll get better

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 4:55 AM

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It was me HAHA @balmy wolf

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 5:00 AM

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it wasnt tho

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 5:01 AM

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I posted it there first

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 5:01 AM

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Which channel

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 5:01 AM

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Tournaments

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 5:01 AM

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FUCK

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:[[[

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 5:02 AM

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HAHA

prisma hinge Dec 17, 2016, 6:32 AM

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so did anybody record the las vegas MLG invitational first day matches?

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the vod on the official channel is missing a lot of stuff from what ive heard

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because unfortunately YT wanted it streamed on their garbage service instead of twitch

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:13 AM

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@forest raven kyb from reunited?

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Aren't you familiar with him? The Genji master?

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:14 AM

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um

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no

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:15 AM

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After reunited dropped TwoEasy and were looking for a new dps, they found kyb in matchmaking

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:15 AM

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Draw only cares about like 2 teams

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:15 AM

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He was a pretty fantastic gengu

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He only cares about his 2 NA teams

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No love for Custa though

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:17 AM

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Yeah draw

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Whats with that

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👀

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:20 AM

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Hey

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Custa's mah boi

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C9, coL and Fnatic

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My teams

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:22 AM

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If there was an Irish player I would root for that team no matter what

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But when it was C9 vs Fnatic, you rooted for C9

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disspointed

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:23 AM

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Hugh Jackman isn't my favourite actor just because he's Aussie

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:23 AM

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Yeah but he isnt the only good australian actor

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Unlike Custa

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Who's the only good Australian pro player

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:24 AM

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Only Aussie on a pro team =/= Only good Aussie player

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:26 AM

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only good australian pro player

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🤔

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:27 AM

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Oh

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I didn't see the "pro"

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Who tf is "amy" on AF Blue

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:29 AM

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oh yeah that started

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Its their support player

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it seems

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:30 AM

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Were they there at Apex 🤔

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:30 AM

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No

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They just came in yesterday

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or well

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2 days ago

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:31 AM

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ic

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:31 AM

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Jin and yesman gone

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Mano and Amy in

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:31 AM

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@balmy wolf do you even sleep?

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:31 AM

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ic

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:31 AM

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yeah

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:32 AM

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tbh your active times made me think you're NA until you mentioned your timezone

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:33 AM

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yeah my sleeping pattern is fucked 24/7

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:34 AM

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Why do the Koreans use mundane, western names as their usernames?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:35 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:36 AM

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Because English tends to sound cool to them

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Same with Japan, if you watch chinese naked cartoons

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:36 AM

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kek

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So are there like

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:36 AM

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🤔

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:36 AM

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Reverse weebs

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:36 AM

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Kinda, I think

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:36 AM

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Asians who are obsessed with western culture

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:38 AM

#

So KD Panthera lost R2der, AF Blue lost Jin and Yesman and CLG got a team

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Jesus

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That throw

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:42 AM

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rip

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Why'd they contest first

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:42 AM

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Used every ult to contest

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killed 1

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Is there a site that tells you about all the upcoming esports for OW?

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 8:50 AM

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Gosugamers I guess

toxic yacht Dec 17, 2016, 8:55 AM

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Gosugamers, over.gg

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 9:16 AM

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rip AF Blue

jagged crater Dec 17, 2016, 9:34 AM

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dam pine is backup?

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i remember him being insane

opaque owl Dec 17, 2016, 10:47 AM

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Why is rogue running solo heal :/

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 11:02 AM

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Rogue's washed up ha HAA

opaque owl Dec 17, 2016, 11:07 AM

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Deserved loss

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 11:09 AM

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They just walked off the cart 🤔

opaque owl Dec 17, 2016, 11:09 AM

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That's the least of their problems

forest raven Dec 17, 2016, 11:09 AM

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roasted

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 7:06 PM

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I nearly forgot about complexity vs Envyus

thin elk Dec 17, 2016, 7:06 PM

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Is it time for 4 tanks again?

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Oh wow it's only 3 tanks

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 7:07 PM

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ikr!

thin elk Dec 17, 2016, 7:37 PM

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symmetra hype?

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 7:51 PM

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@balmy wolf guess you were right

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I missed the match though- I couldn't find a fucking time for it!

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it's not anywhere on the website that I can find

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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Right about what?

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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envy 2-1

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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Ah

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Against who again?

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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Complexity

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 7:54 PM

#

^

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https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=lWStZqj8SVM

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:54 PM

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Oh well yeah

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 7:54 PM

#

@balmy wolf team liquid vs nrg prediction?

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:54 PM

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Bo3?

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 7:54 PM

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i think so

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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Hmm

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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yes afaik

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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Thats a lot harder than Envy vs coL

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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Indeed

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:56 PM

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Wait

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 7:56 PM

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nrg is shit, but i dont know anything about TL

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 7:56 PM

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Liquid vs NRG isnt even the next match is it?

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Id say

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NRG 2-1

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 7:57 PM

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It is the next match

supple nymph Dec 17, 2016, 7:58 PM

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https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=lWStZqj8SVM

muted quartz Dec 17, 2016, 8:15 PM

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man nrg so bad these day

manic cosmos Dec 17, 2016, 8:17 PM

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they're so disorganized

eager sorrel Dec 17, 2016, 8:19 PM

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.... rofl

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0.1 second remaining

thin elk Dec 17, 2016, 8:19 PM

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.1 seconds

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Uy

eager sorrel Dec 17, 2016, 8:20 PM

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could probably have full held if they didn't throw zarya and dva ult at a long won fight..

thin elk Dec 17, 2016, 8:22 PM

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First point taken like 10 seconds faster than Liquid

muted quartz Dec 17, 2016, 8:22 PM

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that dva ult + zaraya ult + mcree ult in the same time vs 3 opo

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really waste

#

should have save it

balmy wolf Dec 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

#

who winning

thin elk Dec 17, 2016, 8:28 PM

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NRG has 1:37, Liquid has 1:00

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 8:29 PM

#

^

thin elk Dec 17, 2016, 8:31 PM

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Liquid couldn't take it

vestal mortar Dec 17, 2016, 8:34 PM

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NRG win Kings Row

outer ember Dec 17, 2016, 9:36 PM

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when will we see better stream quality