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balmy wolf
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They whiffed Earthshatter and Pulse Bomb

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IMT

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why

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yudodis

lilac badger
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yea the premature earthshatter

forest raven
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IMT tried to be Misfits

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But alas

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THey were not Misfits

lilac badger
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double flanker zen, i like it

forest raven
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They actually called the eaten blackhole

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The curse is broken

clear pollen
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"immertals"

forest raven
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@balmy wolf HARB'S GIVIN LG THE BUSINESS

balmy wolf
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rip

forest raven
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Okay so LG won round 2 of Nepal @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
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I tuned out after coL took Point A on Holly with 5:30 left lol

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Ive just been looking at the previous matches

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RCG didnt live up to my expectations

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:c

forest raven
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RIP

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Well LG lost Nepal 1-2 99-100

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So it was close @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
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Good on them

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So what are your predictions for the Final 8?

forest raven
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c9 and Kingdom (obv), coL, Fnatic

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Uh

balmy wolf
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By the way its not over

forest raven
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idk how many points other teams have

balmy wolf
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Its Bo5

forest raven
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Yeah I know

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I was talking about the koth game specifically

balmy wolf
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ah

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C9, Kingdom, coL, Fnatic
Kungarna, FaZe, Liquid, IMT

forest raven
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Oh yeah I forgot about Kungarna

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Where does one go to see how many points each team has

balmy wolf
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Im just using Liquipedia

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That twitch chat spam

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Ice cubes with Santa hats

limber pine
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kungarna may have done enough already to qualify

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depending on how day 4 falls

balmy wolf
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I'd say them and Fnatic are in for the Group Stage

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Now

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The question is

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Will I watch Day 4

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or

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play my ass off of the Event

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🤔

limber pine
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🤔

balmy wolf
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Damn

limber pine
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Liquid and Immortals are 3 and 4 today. They probably get in too

balmy wolf
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Mhm

limber pine
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FaZe should be the final one in, unless they choke tomorrow and another team does well

forest raven
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I want Spicy Boys to get in

balmy wolf
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Who

forest raven
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Spicy. Boys.

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Best team NA

balmy wolf
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Who's on it

forest raven
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I got no fucking clue

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Just a cool name

balmy wolf
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They beat C9 2-0

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apparently

forest raven
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And for an unsigned team called Spicy Boys to beat FaZe

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Spicy Boys 2-0'd NRG

balmy wolf
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Yeah that was it

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coL are getting de_stroyed

forest raven
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2cp why

balmy wolf
forest raven
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coL will win the next map

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Mark my words

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Because it won't be 2cp

clear pollen
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well LG looking strong

forest raven
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coL's getting rolled @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
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Dude

forest raven
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@balmy wolf They got it in OT

balmy wolf
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Spree ate Blizzard and Graviton

forest raven
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Spree ate Harb's graviton

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I KNOW

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FUCK

balmy wolf
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Spree MVP

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Getting rekt coL

forest raven
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I'd say Eiss is MVP

limber pine
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wow

balmy wolf
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LOOOL

forest raven
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FUCK

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Well

balmy wolf
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I was just talking about that round btw draw

forest raven
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Even if they lose here they have enough points to qualify

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Oh okay

limber pine
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if luminosity wins, compLex essentially steals a non-automatic qualifiying spot from somebody else

balmy wolf
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They woildnt have capped last if they got gravved and frozen

forest raven
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True

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@balmy wolf Tork has no joke switched hero like fifteen times

forest raven
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compLexity defeated Luminosity Gaming 3-2 on day 3 of the Winter Premiere qualifiers

toxic yacht
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@limber pine mga is still in the channel info

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NRG's first match at MLG Vegas is vs C9

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rip

forest raven
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Whelp

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@toxic yacht Is MLG Vegas all invited teams?

toxic yacht
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yep

forest raven
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Well that explains why NRG's there

toxic yacht
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NRG has just become utter shit since Gods and Pookz left

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rip

forest raven
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F

toxic yacht
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And the worst thing is that they left right after NRG started getting really good

jovial eagle
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maybe give them time

toxic yacht
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I mean, teams like NV and C9 had much less time, and look at their performance. Admittedly, those teams are significantly better than NRG, but back when they were LG there was a time when they were Nr. 3 NA

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This hurts to watch

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They went from a team playing Lunatic Hai close to this shit

forest raven
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At least I have c9 and coL

toxic yacht
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I still have FaZe

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Oh, lol, fixed map pool fucking NRG over even harder

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thanks Blizzard

quartz wren
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I don't understand why they're doing the fixed map pool thing

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Everyone hates it

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Just fix the maps instead

toxic yacht
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iirc they did similar shit to SC2

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at this stage I have come to the conclusion that Blizzard is just bad at esports

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They want to control everything but have no idea what people actually want

forest raven
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^

balmy wolf
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Like those defense heavy spawns are retarded

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I was watching luminosity against immortals yesterday

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immortals should've won imo

iron cedar
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you can't fix a map like presto

balmy wolf
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People have been complaining about 2cp since beta

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they havent done shit

toxic yacht
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then don't force us to play your broken maps if you don't wanna fix them

balmy wolf
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also that

limber pine
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how do you fix a 2CP map? besides removing them

iron cedar
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It takes time.

toxic yacht
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literally a year

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thats how long they've had to fix it

iron cedar
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we don't know that

balmy wolf
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How do we not?

toxic yacht
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how do we not? People have been complaining since beta, beta released pretty much a year ago

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they had well enough time to get feedback and realize that their gamemode is trash

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instead they force pros to play it and us to watch it

balmy wolf
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It started back in November

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So 13 months

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So 13 months

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to fix

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their shitty gamemode

toxic yacht
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13 goddamn months. Literally all they did was adjust respawn timers iirc

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the least they could do is adjust them even more

balmy wolf
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Make it so the normal respawns are the OT ones

toxic yacht
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it's ridiculous how stubborn they are. No one liked it a year back, and no one will like it now

balmy wolf
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and make the new OT ones 2 seconds longer

toxic yacht
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forcing us to watch/play them won't make us like them

balmy wolf
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At least I like how Hanamura looks

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kek

toxic yacht
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just increase the defense respawn time

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to discourage stalling nonsense

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the issue is that if attacking is too easy, pretty much everything is bound to be a draw

balmy wolf
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Im gonna go and watch some hanamura matches

toxic yacht
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making this gamemode even more useless

balmy wolf
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back in NHL

toxic yacht
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wut

balmy wolf
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and just watch the 6 dva stall

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mmmm

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mmm

toxic yacht
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oh, No hero limit

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remember nv vs oneshot?

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6 dva stall?

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the strat they stole from reunited?

balmy wolf
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I wasn't into the scene during beta and early release

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Only started watching in June

toxic yacht
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okay, saying remember is a bit disengenuous, I saw it some time back

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I somewhat thought that you were there longer and would know

balmy wolf
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;-;

toxic yacht
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oneshot is method, although method basically desolved

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iirc only exi and some other dude still remain

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i think exi and krawnic

balmy wolf
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I remember Method being a powerhouse back in June and July

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Apparently ultimawep and psychowaffle are still on it

toxic yacht
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method actually beat c9 during the open, although that was in september

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and it was also reaver c9

balmy wolf
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kek

toxic yacht
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nope, ultima, snow and wafflez left last month or so

balmy wolf
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Wow really?

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fucking rip

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Oh yeah

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they played in the Winter Premiere

toxic yacht
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apparently exi is gone too

balmy wolf
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Its Tseini, Neptuno, hypoc, Jer, Valliate and Macki

toxic yacht
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ye, the new lineup

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method is kill

balmy wolf
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I think Krawnic is still under the Org

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just isnt a starter

toxic yacht
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yeah, think so too

balmy wolf
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Oh damn

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Dreamkazper is on Spicy Boys

toxic yacht
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dreamkazper?

balmy wolf
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Yeah, I didn't know who he was before

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Ster duo'd with him a lot

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Also when is the WP Day 4?

toxic yacht
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I have no idea, streams are at a drakonian time for me

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I just stopped giving a shit 😦

vital bluff
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I heard there were so suspicious clips of baby bay

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Anybody got any?

balmy wolf
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Who

vital bluff
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Babybay

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On kungarna

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Btw wp starts at 5:30 pst

balmy wolf
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PM?

limber pine
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Live in ~5 minutes: 🇺🇸 $100,000 Winter Premiere Open Qualifiers Day 4

Semifinals:

🇺🇸 NRG vs Fnatic 🇺🇸 🇪🇺
NorthAmerica Immortals vs Luminosity 🇪🇺
https://www.twitch.tv/overwatch_nge

balmy wolf
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noice

limber pine
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Fnatic/Luminosity/Kungarna are all in based on points, no matter what happens.

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Liquid and Immortals are in, unless NRG wins it all. IF NRG wins, Immortals has to place second, or else Liquid is in.

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I think I did that right

balmy wolf
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ngl i totally forgot Clockwork and Numlocked were on NRG

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Custa

Canada```
balmy wolf
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Man

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Fnatic crushed NRG

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Nice dive comp NRG ULURU

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They finally capped

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by using 4 ult

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kek

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Well

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that was

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expected

clear pollen
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its like i watched quick play

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seagull falling off the map with dragonblade was probably NRG's best moment

zealous plaza
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why is nrg so bad

forest raven
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@balmy wolf What the fuck

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He's our only player

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DONT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM US NGE

balmy wolf
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So IMT is the last Qualifier

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Liquid, Kungarna, Luminosity and Fnatic are in on Qualification points

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rip FaZe

dreamy stirrup
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В команду мейн танк 3500+ (рейн макака) и дпс (фланкер или хитскан) писать в лс

arctic sorrel
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same

toxic yacht
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Can relate

balmy wolf
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Has Twoeasy been on FaZe like

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this whole time?

toxic yacht
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wut?

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he was one of the founders of reunited, if you mean that

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he and the team played together for years

balmy wolf
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I just got really confused

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was looking through the teams

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and saw Twoeasy

toxic yacht
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then after they found success in ow, he had personal issues

balmy wolf
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I thought he wasnt on FaZe for some reason

toxic yacht
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got benched

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and then he left the team

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tbh FaZe without TwoEasy would be like FaZe without ShaDowBurn

balmy wolf
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Why was I so confused

toxic yacht
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dunno, lul

toxic yacht
vagrant holly
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Afternoon everyone

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Wrong channel

toxic yacht
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lul

vital umbra
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semetra pro play though

pseudo sail
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anyone watching the major qualifier?

balmy wolf
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Which?

frank frigate
balmy wolf
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Sojum beat you to it

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git rekt

thin elk
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Lol that's like a 7 hour gap too

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You slackin'

balmy wolf
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smh

vocal snow
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Ever wonder if surefour has two dicks?

balmy wolf
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Totally on topic

vital umbra
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seagull gose back to china soon kill me

thin elk
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His name is surefour not suretwo @vocal snow

vocal snow
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Great point^

maiden plover
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Can anyone link me to the 'Your Overwatch' Tournament signups?

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or tell me where to find it?

balmy wolf
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No idea what that is

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Sorry

maiden plover
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I think I found it, I'm good.

balmy wolf
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cloud 9 has best hoodies

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anyone else who disagrees is stupid

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I dont like the blue

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

jovial eagle
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esport teams need better names

forest raven
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Unsigned teams have some great names

jovial eagle
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haha

forest raven
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e.g. Spicy Boys

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Also : thinking :

thin elk
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Oh pls

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My god 🤔 actually is a team

forest raven
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Damn right it is

balmy wolf
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k

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so

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this is all

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kind of

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wierd

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for me

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so

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do u guys think i should get a new pc

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w/ a budget of 1400

jovial eagle
balmy wolf
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I think teams have great names

forest raven
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Same

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Well

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Besides Liquid

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I am indifferent to that

balmy wolf
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I like Fnatic

forest raven
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Why'd they drop the a

balmy wolf
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

forest raven
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I saw that

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👀

balmy wolf
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fuck gamerscape

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Fnatic's logo is creative though

balmy wolf
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This meta

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ResidentSleeper

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@waxen root hold me

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and by hold me

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i mean shoot me

waxen root
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lul

balmy wolf
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mirror comps

waxen root
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as much as people complain about the meta

balmy wolf
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yaay

waxen root
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there are a lot of little plays that make you win

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and thats not just roadhog hooks

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this meta actually requires skill

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but people blame losing on meta without just improving with it and figuring out the comps synergys

balmy wolf
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im too tired to argue anything right now

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im just staying for misfits

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and going to bed

waxen root
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i mean im saying this from own experience of our team LUL

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when we said fuck it and started actually learning the meta we became a good team

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before we were blaming meta 24/7

balmy wolf
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I still hate the meta

waxen root
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fairr enough

balmy wolf
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I love playing tanks

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but

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like

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dva is the worst

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and watching it is even worse

weak kelp
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dva is so annoying

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actually the entire meta is pretty annoying

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like its literally shieldgaming

jovial eagle
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the best thing to combat the meta is zenyatta and zarya

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and ana

balmy wolf
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2cp

weak kelp
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and 76

balmy wolf
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nice

weak kelp
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you literally cant play in this meta without a 76 in your team

balmy wolf
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the entire meta is ana dva 76

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and it fucking sucks

weak kelp
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im pretty sure someone like harryhook has a better dps on 76 than bastion

balmy wolf
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lol

weak kelp
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what id like for blizz to do is increase respawns for suiciding

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dunno kinda feels like a cheap ..

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reinforce god

toxic yacht
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someone like harryhook doesn't even need tac visor

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I'm 100% sure that Surefour and HarryHook actually do less dps with tac visor

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since it cannot deal headshots

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the only advantage is that you can 100% shift your focus to positioning and the faster reload, but they also get hardcore focused,lul

pseudo sail
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is mlg live?

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or does it go live in 12 hours

toxic yacht
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12 hours

pseudo sail
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ok thx

forest raven
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@toxic yacht Who you rooting for?

lilac badger
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taimou probably going to miss first match vs complexity

toxic yacht
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@forest raven NRG, obviously, but we all know how that'll end. Then FaZe, C9 and Envy

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Three of those happen to be in one group though

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rip

forest raven
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rip

toxic yacht
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@forest raven I'll assume that you're going with your boi Harbleu and the gay couple Surefour and Mendo?

forest raven
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Absolutely

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c9 then coL

oak leaf
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is IEM still going?

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saw the announcement that it started at 2 AM

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(6 hours since)

eager sorrel
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next matches are tomorrow

limber pine
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and they started early today (for some reason)

limber pine
toxic yacht
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4 tanks vs 4 tanks

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kill me

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this meta is such cancer

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then there is also the fixed map pool

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fun

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tracerkek 🔫

thin elk
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why🔫

toxic yacht
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Seriously, I felt disgusted during Misfits vs Lunatic Hai. The entire thing felt like cancer.

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Meta + Fixed map pool, ew

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I want the Godyatta OP Discord meta back. Sure, the hero pool was less diverse, but at least we actually had mechanically demanding heroes and skirmishes and kills that didn't come down to ult stacking/roadhooks.

lilac badger
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get rekt misfits

balmy wolf
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Bring back old Misfits :c

clear pollen
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anyone know when mlg starts?

balmy wolf
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3 hours

limber pine
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closer to 4

toxic yacht
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CoL vs Envy getting delayed by 5 hours

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From our boi Timo himself

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Based off the comment and delay, I think he's making it

clear pollen
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only 2 thousand people watching youtube stream lol

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there would be like 50k on twitch

balmy wolf
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What stream?

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Oh shit MLG started

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ster 😍

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@toxic yacht Watching?

gritty crow
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Predictions?

balmy wolf
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Fnatic

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2-1

thin elk
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Finally something I won't miss

balmy wolf
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Bastion

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Bastion

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Oh

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Nevermind

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M I R R O R C O M P

gritty crow
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I lagged for like 2 seconds and Fnatic already have the payload lol

toxic yacht
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@balmy wolf no, not watching

balmy wolf
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rip

obtuse token
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Quality is shit

gritty crow
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well

balmy wolf
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cuz youtube

thin elk
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Why is it not on twitch

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Is it because of F I X E D M A P P O O L S??

elfin ember
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Such an exciting match...

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/s

toxic yacht
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because mlg

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retards

spare sphinx
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youtube quality is better at some times, if you wated LCS, the streams there were better quality( when i watched anyway)

balmy wolf
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idk

spare sphinx
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this is just mlg screwing up

balmy wolf
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tourney sux anyway

gritty crow
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that was a nice push

toxic yacht
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yeah, fucking 4 tanks meta

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matches are so boring

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the funnest part on misfits vs lh was when lunatic hai ran the misfits dreamhack comp

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because there was actual skillful play involved in it

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tbh I think I'll ignore most matches except the ones I really care about

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Not gonna torture myself with this rubbish

elfin ember
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I miss the days of DPS players.

balmy wolf
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On holly?

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at the very start?

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If I remember right that didnt work

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I miss McCree :c

spare sphinx
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yea, even 3x3 was better than this :/

thin elk
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Tf was that

toxic yacht
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on volskaya

thin elk
toxic yacht
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they pushed really fast

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but it didn't work on second point

balmy wolf
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oh i feel asleep after holly

elfin ember
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I'm falling asleep to this match... right now.

spare sphinx
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There was dps.. but then they lost lul

balmy wolf
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yay rise capped

onyx shore
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vape nasyonnnnn

balmy wolf
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extended the torture

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yaay

thin elk
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Woah that's the only fat guy I've ever seen on a team

balmy wolf
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wut

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really?

thin elk
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Not even joking

balmy wolf
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wow you really do miss a lot of tournies

spare sphinx
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you must not look at the players a lot then lul

thin elk
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All of them have been happening while I am sleeping

balmy wolf
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babby

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going bed 10pm

karmic flower
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Tank Meta will kill Overwatch esports

thin elk
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I see all the time "this is happening at fucking 3 am"

onyx shore
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has anyone use symetra?

thin elk
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Nope

balmy wolf
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Rise did

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Oh no

thin elk
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Right

balmy wolf
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wait that was a troll

thin elk
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Kek

balmy wolf
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they might aswell have tbh

thin elk
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Nobody but tanks has any place in this meta anyways

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Fuck all the others

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We have, what, 23 characters?

spare sphinx
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just wait for monkey to be viable Lul

balmy wolf
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23 heroes and theres only ever like 10 viable

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max

onyx shore
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monkey

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lol

spare sphinx
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honestly 10 is fine, as long as they dont go full moba and keep pumping ppl out

thin elk
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They don't even have the excuse of "we have too many characters" either

onyx shore
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genji pick

wanton bronze
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Pharah meta was fun to watch at least

onyx shore
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jeez

spare sphinx
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nvmd lul

wanton bronze
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pharah airshots are always fun

balmy wolf
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No twitch strean 😭

thin elk
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RIP in pepperoni

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Fuck it, I wanna see Rise win

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At least that's a bit interesting

spare sphinx
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yea, maybe then some good will come out of this meta lul

balmy wolf
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Atleast Monte & Doa are casting!

spare sphinx
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true!

balmy wolf
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any meta was more interesting than this one

toxic yacht
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this meta is such trash

thin elk
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RIP Rise

balmy wolf
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This is a Top Level North American Tournament, with 2 Top NA teams

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and theres been 2 3k dva bombs

toxic yacht
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rip ow esports if this is how bliizard wants to balance

balmy wolf
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what even

onyx shore
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i hope the tournament staff will troll them and get them to play on oasis

spare sphinx
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oh come on man, chill, no need to be so negative

thin elk
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"Volskaya all day"

balmy wolf
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They cant @onyx shore

onyx shore
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yeah i know

spare sphinx
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i meant @toxic yacht mostly lul

balmy wolf
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I mean they like literally couldnt

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Oasis isnt in this build

onyx shore
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well,this is what happen when you don't have enough heroes

balmy wolf
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We do have enough heroes

onyx shore
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at least if you got 30-35 heroes,they could use ban/pick system

balmy wolf
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Just not enough viable ones

onyx shore
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so the pick wont be mirror

balmy wolf
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because of the great balancing

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by our saviors

thin elk
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Yeah it doesn't matter if less than half of them are viable anyways

onyx shore
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with ban/pick system it will force the so called "not viable" one to be played

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the most op will be banned

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imagine overwatch with captain's draft

thin elk
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Would anyone even give up their Lucio?

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Or their Rein

onyx shore
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that's the point

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you ban first

spare sphinx
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I feel like balancing with counterpicks would be better than a pick/ban

balmy wolf
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Ana would be gone instantly

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Every match

clear pollen
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honestly just remove the amp healing on the ana grenade, watch the tank meta disappear

balmy wolf
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No no

clear pollen
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ana is the root of evil

onyx shore
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yeah,lets say in the future we have a hero who is ana' counter

balmy wolf
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Take the heal boost and debuff down to 50%

clear pollen
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maybe bring zen's discord back to 50%

onyx shore
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you could let the enemy pick ana,and you pick the counter

balmy wolf
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So healing is cut in half for debuff and 50% more healing on boost

onyx shore
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or you let them pick ana,but ban the key tanks

toxic yacht
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or delete ana

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she pisses me off

balmy wolf
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ima just watch on the MLG stream instead of the youtube stream :P

spare sphinx
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I just feel like one of the main appeales to the game is not having a long setup time likre mobas do, it really would bog things down

onyx shore
#

it wont be that long

#

moba got 100+ heroes

balmy wolf
#

They shouldn't bring in a pick and ban system

#

I'd rather have counterpicking and shit

onyx shore
#

mirror heroes are boring

#

nah

thin elk
#

Why do mobas do that anyways?

balmy wolf
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

onyx shore
#

counterpick,strats,makes more hero viable

#

variety

balmy wolf
#

Indeed, mirror comps are boring

thin elk
#

At a certain amount of characters, you have to throw balance out the window to make more

balmy wolf
#

Thats why I want counterpicks

spare sphinx
#

mirror heros mean that the game woundn't be decided in pick/ban, thats one of the worst parts

#

also how would swapping heros work?

onyx shore
#

my idea is

#

let each team pick 9 heroes

balmy wolf
#

What do you mean how would swapping work

#

You can disable heroes in custom game settings

spare sphinx
#

would games be decided by rather the enemy team can pick a hero faster than you is what i mean

onyx shore
#

nope

balmy wolf
#

Why would that be the case?

spare sphinx
#

and @Arkediaz#5606 idea would slow things down more

onyx shore
#

if you understand dota's captain draft

#

that's it

spare sphinx
#

never played dota

balmy wolf
#

same here

onyx shore
#

let's say me and polo

#

i go first,i ban ana and reindhart

elfin ember
#

A lot of games are decided in the draft in dota tho.

onyx shore
#

polo ban lucio and dva

#

then i pick a hero

#

polo pick a hero

#

rinse and repeat

balmy wolf
#

Wait so

spare sphinx
#

ok, thats kinda like hots, so i know what you mean

balmy wolf
#

would people be able to swap heroes?

onyx shore
#

yeah

#

ofc

#

my idea is

#

you draft 9 heroes

thin elk
#

Woah dude we got xretzi on Tracer

#

META DELINQUENT

balmy wolf
#

and you would be able to see enemy teams picks?

onyx shore
#

yeah

spare sphinx
#

oh shit a dps whaddup

thin elk
#

DISQUALIFY RISE NATION

balmy wolf
#

plays off meta against fnatic

#

lol

onyx shore
#

but at the start you only see 9 heroes that they pick

#

not the starting 6

balmy wolf
#

Ah right

spare sphinx
#

would your plan have theres rules in comp que as well?

balmy wolf
#

So they pick heroes

#

but you cant see them

onyx shore
#

this encourage counterpicking,and remove mirror pick completely

#

i never thought about competitive

#

lol

#

you can do it probably

thin elk
#

Did

#

Did stoop just phase through him

spare sphinx
#

b/c i feel like if tourenys are too different than the real game then it would make watching them worse

stark thicket
#

Anyone know when is this Vegas MLG thing start?

balmy wolf
#

It already has

spare sphinx
#

its on youtube

balmy wolf
#

so stupid

thin elk
#

Idk

stark thicket
#

wtf not on twitch?

toxic yacht
#

mlg

#

those fuckers don't stream to twitch

spare sphinx
#

yea, b/c mlg is greedy and they offered them money

thin elk
#

Uy

toxic yacht
#

they offered whom money?

#

wut?

balmy wolf
#

McCree

spare sphinx
#

this is why i dont like mlg, really not a company that has veiwer's intersts in mind

toxic yacht
#

Hah, McCree

#

skill in this meta?

#

lul

spare sphinx
#

well, yea you gotta think they must have a deal w/ youtube

#

since youtube is trying to push its gaming platform

balmy wolf
#

Why?

#

Meh

toxic yacht
#

nah, they probably want an audience but since twitch is their biggest competitor they are avoiding it

#

probably want to drive views away from twitch while not killing their chances

balmy wolf
#

Fucking mlg

toxic yacht
#

doubt that they have a deal

balmy wolf
#

ruining this tournament even more

wild minnow
#

is there any reason why there's no twitch stream for this tourney

balmy wolf
#

Cant even watch the torture in good quality

#

sojum just said

elfin ember
#

MLG just want to run their doritos and mt. dew ads 24/7

toxic yacht
#

@wild minnow mlg has their own streaming service

balmy wolf
#

a few comments ago

elfin ember
#

Make that advertiser money.

spare sphinx
#

its not any better quality tho

wild minnow
#

o

toxic yacht
#

he doesn't know who sojum is because my name is such cancer, topkek

wild minnow
#

lmao what a joke of a streaming platform..

spare sphinx
#

yea, is there even a live chat?

elfin ember
#

Yep.

#

It's worse than twitch chat.

#

Because no auto-mod.

onyx shore
#

well i prefer youtube than twitch

#

more stable for me

#

lol

balmy wolf
#

Not for livestreams lol

elfin ember
#

html5 is so hard. /s

#

Wish twitch would move already. <_<

wild minnow
#

well its good to see one team is playing 2-2-2

spare sphinx
#

I meant is there even a live chat for mlg's platform

#

cant seem to find one

wild minnow
#

dissapointed in fnatic

clear pollen
#

i figured rise would do better if they played to spirit and xretzi's strengthes

elfin ember
#

Yes, @spare sphinx. It's terrible.

clear pollen
#

even if it was short lived success :/

thin elk
#

GrandpaRage M GrandpaRage E GrandpaRage T GrandpaRage A GrandpaRage

onyx shore
#

why do you want to chat when there's 5k people talking

#

do we have another game after this?

thin elk
#

There may as well not be

#

But there are

spare sphinx
#

yea 2 more matches today

onyx shore
#

nice

clear pollen
#

i mean they'll prolly be more or less the same

#

4 tanks vs 4 tanks

#

occasional soldier

onyx shore
#

ah

#

taimou isn't even there

spare sphinx
#

or one i think they just said some difficulties

balmy wolf
#

@wild minnow why are you dissapointed in them

#

They're playing for 100k

#

sadly have to play the meta to win

elfin ember
#

I blame Blizzard.

wild minnow
#

they're intoxicating the meta by indirectly encouraging what was making it worse in the first place..

elfin ember
#

The teams do what they must to have the greatest chance at cashing out in the tourny.

spare sphinx
#

you know its pretty hard for game devs to really know what meta is gonna be

thin elk
#

Mmm yeah

#

Except Lucio

wild minnow
#

like i get they're playing for high stakes

toxic yacht
#

@Arkediaz#5606 pretty sure that taimou is gonna be there, match was delayed by 5 hours

#

@spare sphinx we all know who is at fault with the meta

#

everyone knows why its happening

thin elk
#

Trank?

wild minnow
#

but it's sad they have to resort to worsening the meta more by adapting to abusing the absurd strength of tanks

toxic yacht
#

but blizzard has refused to do anything for the past few months

elfin ember
#

I saw this meta coming from a mile away.

gritty crow
#

because tanks are easy and overwatch is less than a year old

rugged cairn
#

this is so terrible guys lol

elfin ember
#

It was pretty obvious it could happen when Ana-Rein combo reigned supreme.

toxic yacht
#

lol, I love how no one is discussing the actual match

elfin ember
#

Then they, for some reason, buffed D.va like mad.

balmy wolf
#

@wild minnow Thats not their fault

toxic yacht
#

everyone is just complaining about how its cancer

thin elk
#

Eh, whatever Sojum

toxic yacht
#

I HOPE YOU SEE THIS BLIZZARD

balmy wolf
#

What match?

thin elk
#

Ain't shit happening anyways

spare sphinx
#

honestly any meta w/o mei is 10/10 for me

balmy wolf
#

The total stomp?

forest raven
#

Who won

balmy wolf
#

Who do you think?

thin elk
#

Who do you think

#

Dammit

rugged cairn
#

blizzard doesnt have a clue how to balance

forest raven
#

Rise 😎

rugged cairn
#

what they need is an icefrog

thin elk
toxic yacht
#

tbh eSports discussion is devolving into a "Fuck ana and this meta" circlejerk with me at the forefront

#

I HOPE YOU SEE THIS BLIZZARD

onyx shore
#

well,balancing is not easy,and there always be heroes that favoured by everyone

toxic yacht
#

LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE

elfin ember
#

It's kinda glorious.

forest raven
#

Was this first game?

thin elk
#

It snowballed the moment xretzi picked Tracer

balmy wolf
#

its it just me or is there feedback/eccho on the headsets ?

lament lantern
#

4 tank meta holy shit

onyx shore
#

yep

#

echoing

spare sphinx
#

you spoiled gamers have no idea what bad metas are LuL

gritty crow
#

Y'all are so negative in here lamo

thin elk
#

Oh I know

forest raven
#

Was this first game?

thin elk
#

I have seen bad meta

toxic yacht
#

Of course we are negative, we are witnessing literal garbage

onyx shore
#

nah

thin elk
#

Fuckin Cyrax 70% combo resets in mk9

onyx shore
#

then again,people will always complain

thin elk
#

Infinite Zod zones in Injustice

onyx shore
#

remember when people complain about beyblade last patch

clear pollen
#

yo at least shit died in the beyblade meta

spare sphinx
#

yea i miss that tbh

toxic yacht
#

beyblade was rubbish, but it was only there because the meta was rubbish

onyx shore
#

"hell yeah,it's reindhart getting nano,or reaper beyblade again guys!"

thin elk
#

I didn't like beyblade either

wanton bronze
#

beyblade had stuff happen at least

forest raven
#

WAS

#

THIS

clear pollen
#

now its just a endless shield war, tbh at least reaper was a dps

forest raven
#

FIRST

onyx shore
#

now it's like this

rugged cairn
#

lets add lots of heroes into the game then balance it so that 2 teams are using mostly the same (sometimes exactly the same) heroes :^)

forest raven
#

GAME

toxic yacht
#

instead of addressing the reason for the beyblade, they removed the only triple tank counter

spare sphinx
#

@toxic yacht what meta do you like then?

thin elk
#

That was when I stopped watching tourneys

#

Beyblade

toxic yacht
#

@spare sphinx op zen meta

thin elk
#

alsoigotdarksouls

toxic yacht
#

discord meta was great

gritty crow
#

idk i think we're forgetting how young this game is, balance and meta are gonna change a lot pretty quickly for a while

toxic yacht
#

they haven't touched ana

#

well, they have

#

but the wrong things

spare sphinx
#

your saying the only good meta was one with one objectivly good char?

onyx shore
#

i agree,more balancing,more attention to the pro scene,and more heroes

toxic yacht
#

since fucking september

balmy wolf
#

"remove speedboost, that will fix it"

#

"hurr durr"

spare sphinx
#

thats a good meta? really

balmy wolf
#

🙃 🔫

clear pollen
#

the discord meta wasn't bad but they changed it from 50% to 30% pretty quick

forest raven
#

pls

thin elk
#

They're going to change a lot until balance patches stop coming

forest raven
#

was this first game

toxic yacht
#

That was my favourite meta because it was fun to watch

onyx shore
#

nope

rugged cairn
#

blizzard needs to nerf all healing and shields and improve spectator view tbh!!!

balmy wolf
#

Yeah @forest raven

onyx shore
#

the game is over vidmaster

forest raven
#

THANK YOU POLO

balmy wolf
#

No prob

#

I would have answered it th efirst time but I was afk

thin elk
#

Now you know how I feel in trusted chat

balmy wolf
#

oh yeah i forgot that existed

#

kek

#

i didnt

onyx shore
#

after the healer gets nerfed "OMG,now they dont even play healers anymore,hurr durr pls blozzardddd"

balmy wolf
#

i need it back

#

still have withdrawl

thin elk
#

Lol I asked rhino a question and he completely ignored me

balmy wolf
#

rip

toxic yacht
#

discord meta was great because shit died there

balmy wolf
#

was it about his emotes

thin elk
#

No

toxic yacht
#

there were tons of skirmishes

#

shit died

#

individual skill determinded fights

balmy wolf
#

Took skill too

toxic yacht
#

not this rubbish

balmy wolf
#

Not just waiting for ults

thin elk
#

It was about #tournaments and how he doesn't care about 90% of the tourneys

balmy wolf
#

or hooks

toxic yacht
onyx shore
#

i still remember last patch

thin elk
#

So I asked him if he even watches any at all because he never talks about the game

rugged cairn
#

i hope quake champions kills this game if blizzard hasnt fixed the balance by the time it comes out tbh :^)

onyx shore
#

"ultiwatch huur drurrr"

#

"ult charge too fast hurr durr"

toxic yacht
#

its only ultiwatch because of tanks

onyx shore
#

"mei every hanamura hurr durr"

clear pollen
#

its funny how we thought the ult change would change anything

toxic yacht
#

because shit never dies

#

I was always against the ult change

clear pollen
#

peopel still wait for grav+dva bomb lol

toxic yacht
#

I knew that it would just make the problem worse

#

I said all of this

thin elk
#

When ult nerfs are across the board, it doesn't change anything

toxic yacht
#

but got told that I'm retarded because ULTS ARE THE PROBLEm

thin elk
#

It all remains the same relative to each other

toxic yacht
#

I predicted this

#

it was so obvious

#

could be seen from 10 miles away

thin minnow
#

Is there a place to discuss the MLG Vegas tournament?

onyx shore
#

tbh,i prefer watching matches when the ult charge faster back in the day

spare sphinx
#

ok, ok, chill out Salty nostradamus

thin elk
#

Also I forgot about your question @toxic yacht

onyx shore
#

try "LF scrim"

toxic yacht
#

overwatch became an ult spam fast because nothing ever died

balmy wolf
#

@thin minnow Yes but right now its just about the terrible meta

clear pollen
#

there isn't much to discuss on the match

thin elk
#

I think it's the same guy? I never go to g-d

thin minnow
#

Oh I see, thanks

onyx shore
#

the streaming stop?

rugged cairn
#

they nerfed the ult charge rate right? they should have buffed it and nerfed the actual abilities instead

sharp glade
#

I'm ignorant so how does the ult change change things @toxic yacht

onyx shore
#

guys

#

the stream

#

is it dead?

toxic yacht
#

@thin elk I think we are talking about smth else, lul

rugged cairn
#

yes

balmy wolf
#

back now

thin minnow
#

RIP

spare sphinx
#

yea rip

onyx shore
#

ah i see

forest raven
#

Stream keeps dying

thin elk
#

Dammit why did it have to come back

forest raven
#

y not use twitch tho

thin elk
#

Because mlg

thin minnow
#

Like they ran out of money for a good quality stream

forest raven
#

ugh

clear pollen
#

oh i hadn't noticed, i just mute the stream whenever goldenboy talks lol

onyx shore
#

faze vs liquid

toxic yacht
#

@sharp glade ult charge changes nothing, just makes shit slower and makes people rely more on roadhog

spare sphinx
#

that timer lul

toxic yacht
#

it only made the problem worse

forest raven
#

what is that timer

rugged cairn
#

they should nerf grav to only last 2 seconds, dva's aoe radius and dmg, hammer to only stun for 1 second, something like that

balmy wolf
#

@forest raven Hard to read

onyx shore
#

why faze clan is a meme again?

balmy wolf
#

nevermind

spare sphinx
#

roadhog "makes shit die" tho

forest raven
#

FaZe started out as some dudes playing CoD doing trickshots @onyx shore

clear pollen
#

true, roadhog is the most exciting thing in this meta lol

thin elk
#

Faze is a meme from Modern Warfare 2 days

onyx shore
#

ah

#

i see

balmy wolf
#

Whole meta revolves around roadhog picks and stacking ults

#

Its garbage

toxic yacht
#

he makes shit die in the most boring way possible

thin elk
#

Music died

#

Wait nvm

onyx shore
#

what makes it funny that blizzard didnt event touch roadhog in patch

clear pollen
#

whats up with this music

toxic yacht
#

at least when "shit died" in beyblade, shit actually happened

onyx shore
#

lol

balmy wolf
#

Well at least the next match wont be a total stomp

thin elk
#

I like Liquid

forest raven
#

So fnatic rolled rise I guess

thin elk
#

For some reason

spare sphinx
#

untill they got rezed b/c mercy

toxic yacht
#

when "shit dies" with roadhog, he literally just abuses q

rugged cairn
#

nice they just started playing a 7 minute ad when there's like 3 minutes of time left

thin elk
#

Rise got bodied @forest raven

clear pollen
#

this match should be more fair i think

toxic yacht
#

mercy was never in beyblade meta

#

wut

#

mercy has been trash since zeny got buffed

forest raven
#

rip @thin elk

balmy wolf
#

Mercy was meta so long ago

spare sphinx
#

it was a little

balmy wolf
#

i hated that meta too honestly

#

teamwipe

#

rez

thin elk
#

Mercy meta is so deflating

toxic yacht
#

I prefer mercy 10000x over this

balmy wolf
#

another teamwipe

forest raven
#

did you guys just hate every meta

thin minnow
#

At least there was more dps play

onyx shore
#

lol

forest raven
#

have you never enjoyed this game

onyx shore
#

mercy meta is triggering stylosa

balmy wolf
#

@forest raven No

thin elk
#

I like Pharah meta

onyx shore
#

everytime mercy gets potg,he gets a stroke

forest raven
#

ic

thin elk
#

HUE HUE

toxic yacht
#

at least there was dpsing and skillful play with mercy

balmy wolf
#

was joke

toxic yacht
#

and pharah was being played

rugged cairn
#

yeah actually i hate the idea of ultimates lol

balmy wolf
#

I have enjoyed this game more than ive not enjoyed it

clear pollen
#

i liked when mccree was meta

toxic yacht
#

sure, mercy undid the skillful play

#

but it was still present

balmy wolf
#

Yeah ik

#

Im not saying its worse than this

spare sphinx
#

i enjoy the game a lot, i feel like @toxic yacht arguement is inconsistant

balmy wolf
#

Nothing is worse than this

#

Outside of Hero stacking of course

onyx shore
#

what if we delete 1 hero limit?

balmy wolf
#

YES

toxic yacht
#

lul

#

pls no

balmy wolf
#

PERFECT

onyx shore
#

the meta will change

thin minnow
#

The solution is simple, buff the DPS damage, then buff tank damage, then buff DPS damage again.

balmy wolf
#

TANK META

toxic yacht
#

2 ROADHOGS

clear pollen
#

NOW WE CAN DO 6 TANKS

balmy wolf
#

TANK META + HERO STACKING

#

WOOOOO

#

LETS GO

clear pollen
#

6 ROADHOGS

spare sphinx
#

pls not again

balmy wolf
#

LETS GOO BOYS

forest raven
#

u guys need help

spare sphinx
#

we treid that once

balmy wolf
#

jfc

toxic yacht
#

@thin minnow or nerf ana

balmy wolf
#

what a terrible idea

onyx shore
#

2 ana 2 roadhog 2 reidnhart

gritty crow
#

Remember when every game was like 2 lucios and 2 Winstons

thin elk
#

Let's go back to Ye Olde Koth Meta

clear pollen
#

bro you haven't lived till you lived the 6 roadhog meta

thin elk
#

2 Winston 2 Tracer 2 Lucio

balmy wolf
#

2 tracer 2 lucio 2 monkey

forest raven
#

Just nerf Ana's nade, and see what happens from that

spare sphinx
#

"what is we do mystery heros every tourney" LUL

toxic yacht
#

remember the atlantic showdown?

balmy wolf
#

that still haunts me

toxic yacht
#

those were the good days

balmy wolf
#

bring back my good meta blizzo :c

toxic yacht
#

rogue vs envy back then was 👌

onyx shore
#

so,the 3 dps meta played by misftis back then was just a fluke?

toxic yacht
#

rogue vs reunited was also amazing

thin elk
#

Gamescom 👌

onyx shore
#

when they bead fnatic

#

beat

balmy wolf
#

I remember when Reunited was a strong team

toxic yacht
#

Gamescom was the best

#

best meta

balmy wolf
#

:c

clear pollen
#

i wish we had new c9 back during gamescom

thin minnow
#

Pepperidge farm remembers

thin elk
#

Gamescom was hype af

forest raven
#

what's a reunited

#

are they like

#

some tier 3 team

toxic yacht
#

Gamescom had fun 2cp games

balmy wolf
#

Atlantic Showdown was the best tourney so far imo

toxic yacht
#

rogue vs reunited on hanamura

#

was a fucking riot

onyx shore
#

not the overrwatdh world cup?

toxic yacht
#

like, 2cp was enjoyable before this meta

balmy wolf
#

LOL

#

WC

spare sphinx
#

Ow open will always be best to me b/c i got to watch it live

toxic yacht
#

when everything was fast paced

onyx shore
#

the owc is a shitshow

rugged cairn
#

if tf2 and overwatch came out now tf2 would have killed overwatch by now :^)

onyx shore
#

not practicing

toxic yacht
#

wc was a shitshow

onyx shore
#

blame streamer

toxic yacht
#

it was fun because shadowburn though

#

no one blamed ster

balmy wolf
#

only the fans did

toxic yacht
#

no one on team usa complained, actually

onyx shore
#

symetra torb junkrat is a legit strat -- tairong

toxic yacht
#

ster was the only one who did

#

and he was too hard on himself

balmy wolf
#

USA would have been a lot stronger if they tried

#

"my hands are too cold"

onyx shore
#

well,if you were chosen to represent your country,at least have the decency to practice ffs

balmy wolf
#

"lets play diablo or w/e"

#

10/10

toxic yacht
#

USA had the best chances after sk, finland and sweden

onyx shore
#

"my hands are cold"

toxic yacht
#

they also threw the match vs russia

onyx shore
#

jesus

thin elk
#

I remember in one match Kruise just started trolling his team with Mei

balmy wolf
#

They came closest to beating SK

toxic yacht
#

admittely, it was a bug

balmy wolf
#

and on maps they didnt even practice and SK did

clear pollen
#

Russia was hard carried by shadowburn

toxic yacht
#

ryu got stuck inside a chair

balmy wolf
#

I wish they practiced more

#

That was great

forest raven
#

I can't wait for my boys in blue to be on the big stage

balmy wolf
#

C9

forest raven
#

LETS GO C9 LETS GO