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yea the premature earthshatter
double flanker zen, i like it
"immertals"
@balmy wolf HARB'S GIVIN LG THE BUSINESS
rip
Okay so LG won round 2 of Nepal @balmy wolf
I tuned out after coL took Point A on Holly with 5:30 left lol
Ive just been looking at the previous matches
RCG didnt live up to my expectations
:c
By the way its not over
idk how many points other teams have
Its Bo5
Oh yeah I forgot about Kungarna
Where does one go to see how many points each team has
I'd say them and Fnatic are in for the Group Stage
Now
The question is
Will I watch Day 4
or
play my ass off of the Event
🤔
🤔
Damn
Liquid and Immortals are 3 and 4 today. They probably get in too
Mhm
FaZe should be the final one in, unless they choke tomorrow and another team does well
I want Spicy Boys to get in
Who
Who's on it
2cp 

well LG looking strong
coL's getting rolled @balmy wolf
Dude
@balmy wolf They got it in OT
Spree ate Blizzard and Graviton
I'd say Eiss is MVP
wow
LOOOL
I was just talking about that round btw draw
if luminosity wins, compLex essentially steals a non-automatic qualifiying spot from somebody else
They woildnt have capped last if they got gravved and frozen
compLexity defeated Luminosity Gaming 3-2 on day 3 of the Winter Premiere qualifiers
@limber pine mga is still in the channel info
NRG's first match at MLG Vegas is vs C9
rip
yep
Well that explains why NRG's there
F
And the worst thing is that they left right after NRG started getting really good
maybe give them time
I mean, teams like NV and C9 had much less time, and look at their performance. Admittedly, those teams are significantly better than NRG, but back when they were LG there was a time when they were Nr. 3 NA
This hurts to watch
They went from a team playing Lunatic Hai close to this shit
At least I have c9 and coL
I still have FaZe
Oh, lol, fixed map pool fucking NRG over even harder
thanks Blizzard
I don't understand why they're doing the fixed map pool thing
Everyone hates it
Just fix the maps instead
iirc they did similar shit to SC2
at this stage I have come to the conclusion that Blizzard is just bad at esports
They want to control everything but have no idea what people actually want
^
Like those defense heavy spawns are retarded
I was watching luminosity against immortals yesterday
immortals should've won imo
you can't fix a map like presto
then don't force us to play your broken maps if you don't wanna fix them
also that
how do you fix a 2CP map? besides removing them
It takes time.
we don't know that
How do we not?
how do we not? People have been complaining since beta, beta released pretty much a year ago
they had well enough time to get feedback and realize that their gamemode is trash
instead they force pros to play it and us to watch it
It started back in November
So 13 months
So 13 months
to fix
their shitty gamemode
13 goddamn months. Literally all they did was adjust respawn timers iirc
the least they could do is adjust them even more
Make it so the normal respawns are the OT ones
it's ridiculous how stubborn they are. No one liked it a year back, and no one will like it now
and make the new OT ones 2 seconds longer
forcing us to watch/play them won't make us like them
just increase the defense respawn time
to discourage stalling nonsense
the issue is that if attacking is too easy, pretty much everything is bound to be a draw
Im gonna go and watch some hanamura matches
making this gamemode even more useless
back in NHL
wut
oh, No hero limit
remember nv vs oneshot?
6 dva stall?
the strat they stole from reunited?
okay, saying remember is a bit disengenuous, I saw it some time back
I somewhat thought that you were there longer and would know
;-;
oneshot is method, although method basically desolved
iirc only exi and some other dude still remain
i think exi and krawnic
I remember Method being a powerhouse back in June and July
Apparently ultimawep and psychowaffle are still on it
method actually beat c9 during the open, although that was in september
and it was also reaver c9
kek
nope, ultima, snow and wafflez left last month or so
apparently exi is gone too
Its Tseini, Neptuno, hypoc, Jer, Valliate and Macki
yeah, think so too
dreamkazper?
Yeah, I didn't know who he was before
Ster duo'd with him a lot
Also when is the WP Day 4?
I have no idea, streams are at a drakonian time for me
I just stopped giving a shit 😦
Who
PM?
Live in ~5 minutes: 🇺🇸 $100,000 Winter Premiere Open Qualifiers Day 4
Semifinals:
🇺🇸 NRG vs Fnatic 🇺🇸 🇪🇺
Immortals vs Luminosity 🇪🇺
https://www.twitch.tv/overwatch_nge
noice
Fnatic/Luminosity/Kungarna are all in based on points, no matter what happens.
Liquid and Immortals are in, unless NRG wins it all. IF NRG wins, Immortals has to place second, or else Liquid is in.
I think I did that right
ngl i totally forgot Clockwork and Numlocked were on NRG
@forest raven http://i.imgur.com/VkheERe.png
Custa
Canada```
Man
Fnatic crushed NRG
Nice dive comp NRG 
They finally capped
by using 4 ult
kek
Well
that was
expected
its like i watched quick play
seagull falling off the map with dragonblade was probably NRG's best moment
why is nrg so bad
So IMT is the last Qualifier
Liquid, Kungarna, Luminosity and Fnatic are in on Qualification points
rip FaZe
В команду мейн танк 3500+ (рейн макака) и дпс (фланкер или хитскан) писать в лс
same
Can relate
wut?
he was one of the founders of reunited, if you mean that
he and the team played together for years
then after they found success in ow, he had personal issues
I thought he wasnt on FaZe for some reason
got benched
and then he left the team
tbh FaZe without TwoEasy would be like FaZe without ShaDowBurn
Why was I so confused
dunno, lul
I was faster than CaptainPlanet
https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2016-12-15-overwatch-hero-meta-report-the-meta-that-was
lul
semetra pro play though
anyone watching the major qualifier?
Which?
Good morning everyone! I just posted the Meta Report for the past two weeks leading up to Symmetra's release, but it also serves as a viewing guide for MLG Vegas. Let me know what you think in the comments :3
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5ii80p/overwatch_hero_meta_report_the_meta_that_was/
smh
Ever wonder if surefour has two dicks?
Totally on topic
seagull gose back to china soon kill me
His name is surefour not suretwo @vocal snow
Great point^
Can anyone link me to the 'Your Overwatch' Tournament signups?
or tell me where to find it?
I think I found it, I'm good.
cloud 9 has best hoodies
anyone else who disagrees is stupid
I dont like the blue
¯_(ツ)_/¯
esport teams need better names
Unsigned teams have some great names
haha
Damn right it is
k
so
this is all
kind of
wierd
for me
so
do u guys think i should get a new pc
w/ a budget of 1400
tis not the right channel #general-discussion
I think teams have great names
I like Fnatic
Why'd they drop the a
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lul
mirror comps
as much as people complain about the meta
yaay
there are a lot of little plays that make you win
and thats not just roadhog hooks
this meta actually requires skill
but people blame losing on meta without just improving with it and figuring out the comps synergys
im too tired to argue anything right now
im just staying for misfits
and going to bed
i mean im saying this from own experience of our team LUL
when we said fuck it and started actually learning the meta we became a good team
before we were blaming meta 24/7
I still hate the meta
fairr enough
dva is so annoying
actually the entire meta is pretty annoying
like its literally shieldgaming
2cp
and 76
nice
you literally cant play in this meta without a 76 in your team
im pretty sure someone like harryhook has a better dps on 76 than bastion
lol
what id like for blizz to do is increase respawns for suiciding
dunno kinda feels like a cheap ..
reinforce god
someone like harryhook doesn't even need tac visor
I'm 100% sure that Surefour and HarryHook actually do less dps with tac visor
since it cannot deal headshots
the only advantage is that you can 100% shift your focus to positioning and the faster reload, but they also get hardcore focused,lul
12 hours
ok thx
@toxic yacht Who you rooting for?
@forest raven NRG, obviously, but we all know how that'll end. Then FaZe, C9 and Envy
Three of those happen to be in one group though
rip
rip
@forest raven I'll assume that you're going with your boi Harbleu and the gay couple Surefour and Mendo?
next matches are tomorrow
and they started early today (for some reason)
@oak leaf Here's the sub's Survival Guide if you find it helpful https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5imtu7/spoilers_iem_gyeonggi_invitational_survival_guide/
4 tanks vs 4 tanks
kill me
this meta is such cancer
then there is also the fixed map pool
fun
🔫
🔫
Seriously, I felt disgusted during Misfits vs Lunatic Hai. The entire thing felt like cancer.
Meta + Fixed map pool, ew
I want the Godyatta OP Discord meta back. Sure, the hero pool was less diverse, but at least we actually had mechanically demanding heroes and skirmishes and kills that didn't come down to ult stacking/roadhooks.
get rekt misfits
Bring back old Misfits :c
anyone know when mlg starts?
3 hours
closer to 4
@clear pollen you can use the sub's survival guide if you think it'll be helpful https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5iptl3/spoilers_mlg_vegas_invitational_survival_guide/
CoL vs Envy getting delayed by 5 hours
From our boi Timo himself
Based off the comment and delay, I think he's making it
only 2 thousand people watching youtube stream lol
there would be like 50k on twitch
Predictions?
Finally something I won't miss
I lagged for like 2 seconds and Fnatic already have the payload lol
@balmy wolf no, not watching
rip
Quality is shit
well
cuz youtube
youtube quality is better at some times, if you wated LCS, the streams there were better quality( when i watched anyway)
idk
this is just mlg screwing up
tourney sux anyway
that was a nice push
yeah, fucking 4 tanks meta
matches are so boring
the funnest part on misfits vs lh was when lunatic hai ran the misfits dreamhack comp
because there was actual skillful play involved in it
tbh I think I'll ignore most matches except the ones I really care about
Not gonna torture myself with this rubbish
I miss the days of DPS players.
On holly?
at the very start?
If I remember right that didnt work
I miss McCree :c
yea, even 3x3 was better than this :/
Tf was that
on volskaya
oh i feel asleep after holly
I'm falling asleep to this match... right now.
There was dps.. but then they lost lul
yay rise capped
vape nasyonnnnn
Woah that's the only fat guy I've ever seen on a team
Not even joking
wow you really do miss a lot of tournies
you must not look at the players a lot then lul
All of them have been happening while I am sleeping
Tank Meta will kill Overwatch esports
I see all the time "this is happening at fucking 3 am"
has anyone use symetra?
Nope
Right
wait that was a troll
Kek
they might aswell have tbh
Nobody but tanks has any place in this meta anyways
Fuck all the others
We have, what, 23 characters?
just wait for monkey to be viable Lul
honestly 10 is fine, as long as they dont go full moba and keep pumping ppl out
They don't even have the excuse of "we have too many characters" either
genji pick
Pharah meta was fun to watch at least
jeez
nvmd lul
pharah airshots are always fun
No twitch strean 😭
yea, maybe then some good will come out of this meta lul
Atleast Monte & Doa are casting!
true!
any meta was more interesting than this one
this meta is such trash
RIP Rise
This is a Top Level North American Tournament, with 2 Top NA teams
and theres been 2 3k dva bombs
rip ow esports if this is how bliizard wants to balance
what even
i hope the tournament staff will troll them and get them to play on oasis
oh come on man, chill, no need to be so negative
"Volskaya all day"
They cant @onyx shore
yeah i know
i meant @toxic yacht mostly lul
well,this is what happen when you don't have enough heroes
We do have enough heroes
at least if you got 30-35 heroes,they could use ban/pick system
Just not enough viable ones
so the pick wont be mirror
Yeah it doesn't matter if less than half of them are viable anyways
with ban/pick system it will force the so called "not viable" one to be played
the most op will be banned
imagine overwatch with captain's draft
I feel like balancing with counterpicks would be better than a pick/ban
honestly just remove the amp healing on the ana grenade, watch the tank meta disappear
No no
ana is the root of evil
yeah,lets say in the future we have a hero who is ana' counter
Take the heal boost and debuff down to 50%
maybe bring zen's discord back to 50%
you could let the enemy pick ana,and you pick the counter
So healing is cut in half for debuff and 50% more healing on boost
or you let them pick ana,but ban the key tanks
ima just watch on the MLG stream instead of the youtube stream :P
I just feel like one of the main appeales to the game is not having a long setup time likre mobas do, it really would bog things down
They shouldn't bring in a pick and ban system
I'd rather have counterpicking and shit
Why do mobas do that anyways?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Indeed, mirror comps are boring
At a certain amount of characters, you have to throw balance out the window to make more
Thats why I want counterpicks
mirror heros mean that the game woundn't be decided in pick/ban, thats one of the worst parts
also how would swapping heros work?
What do you mean how would swapping work
You can disable heroes in custom game settings
would games be decided by rather the enemy team can pick a hero faster than you is what i mean
nope
Why would that be the case?
and @Arkediaz#5606 idea would slow things down more
never played dota
same here
A lot of games are decided in the draft in dota tho.
Wait so
ok, thats kinda like hots, so i know what you mean
would people be able to swap heroes?
and you would be able to see enemy teams picks?
yeah
oh shit a dps whaddup
DISQUALIFY RISE NATION
Ah right
would your plan have theres rules in comp que as well?
this encourage counterpicking,and remove mirror pick completely
i never thought about competitive
lol
you can do it probably
b/c i feel like if tourenys are too different than the real game then it would make watching them worse
Anyone know when is this Vegas MLG thing start?
It already has
its on youtube
Idk
wtf not on twitch?
yea, b/c mlg is greedy and they offered them money
Uy
this is why i dont like mlg, really not a company that has veiwer's intersts in mind
well, yea you gotta think they must have a deal w/ youtube
since youtube is trying to push its gaming platform
nah, they probably want an audience but since twitch is their biggest competitor they are avoiding it
probably want to drive views away from twitch while not killing their chances
Fucking mlg
doubt that they have a deal
ruining this tournament even more
is there any reason why there's no twitch stream for this tourney
MLG just want to run their doritos and mt. dew ads 24/7
@wild minnow mlg has their own streaming service
a few comments ago
Make that advertiser money.
its not any better quality tho
o
he doesn't know who sojum is because my name is such cancer, topkek
lmao what a joke of a streaming platform..
yea, is there even a live chat?
Not for livestreams lol
well its good to see one team is playing 2-2-2
dissapointed in fnatic
i figured rise would do better if they played to spirit and xretzi's strengthes
Yes, @spare sphinx. It's terrible.
even if it was short lived success :/
M
E
T
A 
why do you want to chat when there's 5k people talking
do we have another game after this?
yea 2 more matches today
nice
i mean they'll prolly be more or less the same
4 tanks vs 4 tanks
occasional soldier
or one i think they just said some difficulties
@wild minnow why are you dissapointed in them
They're playing for 100k
sadly have to play the meta to win
I blame Blizzard.
they're intoxicating the meta by indirectly encouraging what was making it worse in the first place..
The teams do what they must to have the greatest chance at cashing out in the tourny.
you know its pretty hard for game devs to really know what meta is gonna be
like i get they're playing for high stakes
@Arkediaz#5606 pretty sure that taimou is gonna be there, match was delayed by 5 hours
@spare sphinx we all know who is at fault with the meta
everyone knows why its happening
Trank?
but it's sad they have to resort to worsening the meta more by adapting to abusing the absurd strength of tanks
but blizzard has refused to do anything for the past few months
I saw this meta coming from a mile away.
because tanks are easy and overwatch is less than a year old
this is so terrible guys lol
It was pretty obvious it could happen when Ana-Rein combo reigned supreme.
lol, I love how no one is discussing the actual match
@wild minnow Thats not their fault
everyone is just complaining about how its cancer
Eh, whatever Sojum
I HOPE YOU SEE THIS BLIZZARD
What match?
Ain't shit happening anyways
honestly any meta w/o mei is 10/10 for me
The total stomp?
Who won
Who do you think?
blizzard doesnt have a clue how to balance
Rise 😎
what they need is an icefrog

tbh eSports discussion is devolving into a "Fuck ana and this meta" circlejerk with me at the forefront
I HOPE YOU SEE THIS BLIZZARD
well,balancing is not easy,and there always be heroes that favoured by everyone
LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
It's kinda glorious.
Was this first game?
It snowballed the moment xretzi picked Tracer
its it just me or is there feedback/eccho on the headsets ?
4 tank meta holy shit
you spoiled gamers have no idea what bad metas are LuL
Y'all are so negative in here lamo
Oh I know
Was this first game?
I have seen bad meta
Of course we are negative, we are witnessing literal garbage
nah
Fuckin Cyrax 70% combo resets in mk9
then again,people will always complain
Infinite Zod zones in Injustice
remember when people complain about beyblade last patch
yo at least shit died in the beyblade meta
yea i miss that tbh
beyblade was rubbish, but it was only there because the meta was rubbish
"hell yeah,it's reindhart getting nano,or reaper beyblade again guys!"
I didn't like beyblade either
beyblade had stuff happen at least
now its just a endless shield war, tbh at least reaper was a dps
FIRST
now it's like this
lets add lots of heroes into the game then balance it so that 2 teams are using mostly the same (sometimes exactly the same) heroes :^)
GAME
instead of addressing the reason for the beyblade, they removed the only triple tank counter
@toxic yacht what meta do you like then?
@spare sphinx op zen meta
alsoigotdarksouls
discord meta was great
idk i think we're forgetting how young this game is, balance and meta are gonna change a lot pretty quickly for a while
your saying the only good meta was one with one objectivly good char?
i agree,more balancing,more attention to the pro scene,and more heroes
since fucking september
thats a good meta? really
🙃 🔫
the discord meta wasn't bad but they changed it from 50% to 30% pretty quick
pls
They're going to change a lot until balance patches stop coming
was this first game
That was my favourite meta because it was fun to watch
nope
blizzard needs to nerf all healing and shields and improve spectator view tbh!!!
Yeah @forest raven
the game is over vidmaster
THANK YOU POLO
Now you know how I feel in trusted chat
after the healer gets nerfed "OMG,now they dont even play healers anymore,hurr durr pls blozzardddd"
Lol I asked rhino a question and he completely ignored me
rip
discord meta was great because shit died there
was it about his emotes
No
Took skill too
not this rubbish
Not just waiting for ults
It was about #tournaments and how he doesn't care about 90% of the tourneys
or hooks
@thin elk lol, you mean the guy over at #general-discussion?
i still remember last patch
So I asked him if he even watches any at all because he never talks about the game
i hope quake champions kills this game if blizzard hasnt fixed the balance by the time it comes out tbh :^)
its only ultiwatch because of tanks
"mei every hanamura hurr durr"
its funny how we thought the ult change would change anything
peopel still wait for grav+dva bomb lol
When ult nerfs are across the board, it doesn't change anything
but got told that I'm retarded because ULTS ARE THE PROBLEm
It all remains the same relative to each other
Is there a place to discuss the MLG Vegas tournament?
tbh,i prefer watching matches when the ult charge faster back in the day
ok, ok, chill out Salty nostradamus
Also I forgot about your question @toxic yacht
try "LF scrim"
overwatch became an ult spam fast because nothing ever died
@thin minnow Yes but right now its just about the terrible meta
there isn't much to discuss on the match
I think it's the same guy? I never go to g-d
Oh I see, thanks
the streaming stop?
they nerfed the ult charge rate right? they should have buffed it and nerfed the actual abilities instead
I'm ignorant so how does the ult change change things @toxic yacht
@thin elk I think we are talking about smth else, lul
yes
back now
RIP
yea rip
ah i see
Stream keeps dying
Dammit why did it have to come back
y not use twitch tho
Because mlg
Like they ran out of money for a good quality stream
ugh
oh i hadn't noticed, i just mute the stream whenever goldenboy talks lol
faze vs liquid
@sharp glade ult charge changes nothing, just makes shit slower and makes people rely more on roadhog
that timer lul
it only made the problem worse
what is that timer
they should nerf grav to only last 2 seconds, dva's aoe radius and dmg, hammer to only stun for 1 second, something like that
@forest raven Hard to read
why faze clan is a meme again?
nevermind
roadhog "makes shit die" tho
FaZe started out as some dudes playing CoD doing trickshots @onyx shore
true, roadhog is the most exciting thing in this meta lol
Faze is a meme from Modern Warfare 2 days
he makes shit die in the most boring way possible
what makes it funny that blizzard didnt event touch roadhog in patch
whats up with this music
at least when "shit died" in beyblade, shit actually happened
lol
Well at least the next match wont be a total stomp
I like Liquid
So fnatic rolled rise I guess
For some reason
untill they got rezed b/c mercy
when "shit dies" with roadhog, he literally just abuses q
nice they just started playing a 7 minute ad when there's like 3 minutes of time left
Rise got bodied @forest raven
this match should be more fair i think
rip @thin elk
Mercy was meta so long ago
it was a little
Mercy meta is so deflating
I prefer mercy 10000x over this
another teamwipe
did you guys just hate every meta
At least there was more dps play
lol
have you never enjoyed this game
mercy meta is triggering stylosa
@forest raven No
I like Pharah meta
everytime mercy gets potg,he gets a stroke
ic
HUE HUE
at least there was dpsing and skillful play with mercy
was joke
and pharah was being played
yeah actually i hate the idea of ultimates lol
I have enjoyed this game more than ive not enjoyed it
i liked when mccree was meta
i enjoy the game a lot, i feel like @toxic yacht arguement is inconsistant
what if we delete 1 hero limit?
YES
PERFECT
the meta will change
The solution is simple, buff the DPS damage, then buff tank damage, then buff DPS damage again.
TANK META
2 ROADHOGS
NOW WE CAN DO 6 TANKS
6 ROADHOGS
pls not again
LETS GOO BOYS
u guys need help
we treid that once
jfc
@thin minnow or nerf ana
what a terrible idea
2 ana 2 roadhog 2 reidnhart
Remember when every game was like 2 lucios and 2 Winstons
Let's go back to Ye Olde Koth Meta
bro you haven't lived till you lived the 6 roadhog meta
2 Winston 2 Tracer 2 Lucio
2 tracer 2 lucio 2 monkey
Just nerf Ana's nade, and see what happens from that
"what is we do mystery heros every tourney" LUL
remember the atlantic showdown?
that still haunts me
those were the good days
bring back my good meta blizzo :c
rogue vs envy back then was 👌
so,the 3 dps meta played by misftis back then was just a fluke?
rogue vs reunited was also amazing
Gamescom 👌
I remember when Reunited was a strong team
:c
i wish we had new c9 back during gamescom
Pepperidge farm remembers
Gamescom was hype af
Gamescom had fun 2cp games
Atlantic Showdown was the best tourney so far imo
not the overrwatdh world cup?
like, 2cp was enjoyable before this meta
Ow open will always be best to me b/c i got to watch it live
when everything was fast paced
the owc is a shitshow
if tf2 and overwatch came out now tf2 would have killed overwatch by now :^)
not practicing
wc was a shitshow
blame streamer
only the fans did
no one on team usa complained, actually
symetra torb junkrat is a legit strat -- tairong
well,if you were chosen to represent your country,at least have the decency to practice ffs
USA had the best chances after sk, finland and sweden
"my hands are cold"
they also threw the match vs russia
jesus
I remember in one match Kruise just started trolling his team with Mei
They came closest to beating SK
admittely, it was a bug
and on maps they didnt even practice and SK did
Russia was hard carried by shadowburn
ryu got stuck inside a chair
I can't wait for my boys in blue to be on the big stage
LETS GO C9 LETS GO
